Dragon's Dogma 2

[devout marlin]

ok im kinda beginning to like the rogue ultimate tech

does anyone know where do you get the ring that nulls fire and if it works with it?

[ionic mason]

thats the problem

they only do it like

once out of 12 times

and you dont know if its cus of the plague or cus their pathfinding ai sucks

[ionic mason]

also

have the plague in my group for a couple ingame days now

[dusk cliff]

as long as you dont rest at an inn its fine right

[ionic mason]

and the only "sings" i had are: in the last 4 hours of playing i had 3 comments that where weird/dont fit the pawns

and 1 of them has SLIGHTLY different eyes

no "looks sick" idle animation at all, waited for 4min and never saw that one happen

and again, impossible to tell if they dont do commands because of the plague or because their pathfinding makes them stuck

[ionic mason]

ye

the problem

resting at a Inn/a home is how you update your pawn in the system/your pawn comes back from other players

[dusk cliff]

whats the next big rpg release

think i was let down a bit by this one haven't really felt the desire to play after getting to battahl

[tawny heron]

this year?

depends on what kind of RPGs youre into ig

[dusk cliff]

i think it might be metaphor from atlus

black myth wukong looks cool too but there's a bunch of question marks, unknown studio and ambitious project and all that

war within is this year too ig but i dont think i count wow

[tawny heron]

SMT V: vengance this year

[brave vapor]

how do u open the door at this house

[ionic mason]

waaaay to niche tbh

[wispy trellis]

||underground entrance somewhere else nearby||

[tawny heron]

nah

well, thats one way

||you can shoot open the door from the other side through a window||

that option works on a few different occasions

[brave vapor]

👀

How did i never think of that

Prob bc im a thief and not ranged

Tho sometimes i wondee

Why cant a fucking warrior

[dusk cliff]

never forget what they took from hs

[brave vapor]

With a 90kg super mace

[dusk cliff]

when they turned strider into two classes

[brave vapor]

Cant smash that door

[dusk cliff]

thief used to have bows

[brave vapor]

I know

I mean i honestly like it more bc both got more personality from being divided

But also ig i got a bit tired of thief

But im also still early game after....

30 hours

[dusk cliff]

pretty sure strider got everything both thief and ranger got minus like 2-3 abilities lol

[brave vapor]

Idk if my save is haunted or what but every step i take theres a minotaur

[dusk cliff]

you might not be as early as you think

[brave vapor]

Im at uh

Doing the quests that a certain person gives

To progress the main story

The 3 quests

But ngl im doing every single sidequest i can before that

[dusk cliff]

yeah only like 2 of those take longer than 3 minutes to do lol

all of the ones that take place in the capital are like instant

[brave vapor]

I think the reason im taking long is that im enjoying exploring so much that i forget i have ferrystones

Except when i really need them

But i prob only used 3 so far

And have like 15 in my inventory

Also i got gifted an item that tells u where the coins are so... ig im gonna get even more lost in exploring

I keep finding the most unhinged spots for caves or chests

I refuse to believe the interactive map shows everything

In fextralife

I only ever use it when i need to find an npc that isnt in the zone bc the fucker is sleeping or doing groceries or who knows

[tawny heron]

@ionic mason https://www.twitch.tv/handiofiblood/clip/PiercingMoralEggnogJonCarnage-1OjMie7tD4lvalmq

youll appreciate this one

[tawny heron]

thief is just strider but better, beyond not having a bow

[tawny heron]

it doesnt, its missing a bunch of stuff and has a bunch of stuff in the wrong places

[ionic mason]

70% of the "mainstory" is "go into the castle and interact with something"

[devout marlin]

if you use the formless skill you can also use the fire ultimate and not take dmg

super cool

as rogue

[ionic mason]

that looks like some scripted shit

[devout marlin]

i also had a cool one

an ogre yeeted me into a gryphon

[tawny heron]

na hits just

bound to happen to someone

[devout marlin]

i also used 2 wakestones on my first fel lord was funny everything was going well

then he one tapped me in a charge

used stone then he did a screen slam

and one tapped me again

[tawny heron]

ye fel lords are kinda

not nice

mostly cuz they seem completely immune to knockdown

[devout marlin]

yea i got cocky ran out of stamina

that is a death sentence for thief

i also forget you can just pause and use items

or have them on hotbar

could have used a stamina item etc game is easy but they know how to make cool fights so like the DLC in DD1 i expect great things

those mobs were metal

[ionic mason]

gore cyclops

those guys where a real panic attack fight

[tawny heron]

if the leaks are to be believed

the first expansion will drop in autumn

not sure how i feel about it, considering its likely gonna be like 40$ again or smth...

[devout marlin]

well really depends i dont know what to think about right now tbh

[ionic mason]

Sweet White Ocean incomming

[tawny heron]

gimme beholders, hydras and a bunch of other stuff please and thank you

[ionic mason]

are they really missing?

bruh

thought i just didnt saw them yet

[tawny heron]

having to rest 14times for a boss to respawn

fucking hell

my elite camping kit id always get back after camping

is gone now

cuz i got raided

during the camp

and you only get it back after successful rest ig

what a scam

[devout marlin]

fuck remind me to get a forgery of that one

[devout marlin]

damn i was fighting a super cool undead mob that was blue and he dipped when it got to morning

ahaha

[wispy trellis]

i was fighting a lich and it flew too far and disappeared after falling off a cliff

[tawny heron]

wight =!= lich

[dusk cliff]

i mean liches are just the second tier of wight

[tawny heron]

theres only one lich in the game tho

[dusk cliff]

dont see how that changes anything

[tawny heron]

cause the lich isnt in a location where it can fall off a cliff

was unironically the hardest fight in the game for me

due to how its set up

ultimately doesnt really matter, just important for farming purposes since every boss type has specific drops they dont share with others

[devout marlin]

what monster was the blue knight i fighted it was like a fel lord on crack

[dusk cliff]

dullahan

[devout marlin]

yea that one is metal

sadly didnt have enough dmg

and morning came

well time to sleep also unlocked mystic spear boi

[brave vapor]

i feel i have no idea what im doing with spearhand

but thats prob bc it gets stuff at higher vocation lvl

at lvl 1 u kinda just, attack

[ionic mason]

its all about constantly charging the stun bolt during attacks and weaving stuff in during attacks

cus later the stun bolt gets multiple uses (can blink to a enemy you stunnes with a charged bolt/can let the bolt do a aoe explosion)

the small projectiles skill can be used during every single animation for bonus dmg, heavy attack is slow and leaves you open but hits VERY hard (even more when a enemy is staggered/knocked down)

mystic spear gets onnline at like, rank4-5, and then just goes full crazy

[devout marlin]

or just be thief and explode yourself while being super dodge man

i do find funny you can dodge the explosion with the other secrec tech

[ionic mason]

dodge the fire on your skin

[brave vapor]

so im guessing...

the stability extracts found in the bourdeliere

are...

to keep...

things stable...

[brave vapor]

i got a bit tired of thief heh

or at least how i was playing it

spin 2 win

wanted to try other stuff

not a fan that 4 of thief's abiltiies are like, weak spots stuff that is just basically 1 big attack there and extremely hard to pull off bc weird hitboxes

[brave vapor]

idk why the bolt following skills arent working for me

like im trying to blink with it but wont work

OOOOOOH

its with the charged bolt

not the normal one

[ionic mason]

ye

all the things need a charged bolt

charging a Bolt ->blink at an enemy->do the upward teleport attack never getd old against big enemys cus you just reached their head instantly

[tawny heron]

finally

https://i.imgur.com/dxjVu2F.png

last medusa dropped 2 bones at once

even with wyrmfire upgrade its still 8kg

[devout marlin]

damn that is hefty

[ionic mason]

gotta rank up Fighter for that carry weight augment

my pawn is almost done

4ranks archer+sorcer left

then all vocations maxed

and i can finally decide what i actually want with him

[tawny heron]

already did

62kg weight as archer but

ye

the weight isnt really the issue, its that every attack costs like 4x the stamina

but mobs also give 4x the XP if i get the killing blow

[ionic mason]

btw

capcom did a survey about the game and what to improve, idk if you guys saw it

[tawny heron]

idk why the archer statgain is so dogshit tho

like

the last 3 levels

ive gotten 0, 2 and 0 strength

but ive gotten 9, 5, and 7 magick?

[ionic mason]

statgain is overall random af

played sorc a bit and had levels where i gained 0magic but 7strenght

[tawny heron]

ye its weird

i mean

you dont even have a melee attack

my sorc pawn is annoying me

basically casting meteor 24/7

but never augural flare

but i think im kinda done with the game anyway

really not seeing any reason to play more, killed everything, solo'd everything once

[ionic mason]

get all seekers medalions

yo wait what

the "more physical/magical deffence" augments are frking 30% lol

[devout marlin]

fuck

i used an elvish augment without knowing it gave shit stats for strer

on a bow

how much is the diff vs vermudian?

[wispy trellis]

vermund is balanced, balak or whatever its called is str

idk the exact numbers tho

[devout marlin]

damn it is rough the diff is like 10 str

might as well buy the bow again

[wispy trellis]

if u fuck up a one of item u gotta ng+ to get it again rip

i saw an article about how the unmaking arrow is phenomenal game design, but where was that energy during dd1

[devout marlin]

nah it was a vendor bow at least

[wispy trellis]

does wayfarer level all ur vocations, or just whatever ones weapons u have equipped

[ionic mason]

iirc it veeeeeery slowly levels them aswell

but tbh, by the point you get warfarer you are more or less supposed to allready have "finished" your vocation choices

except magick archer cus for some reason you unlock that vocation sooooo fucking late

[tawny heron]

Very minor

[ionic mason]

this is a game where most enemys die in seconds

those 0,5% enchant differences aint doing shit in reality

[brave vapor]

When dragons dogma 3

[tawny heron]

12years

they release one every year of the dragon

[brave vapor]

Wait now that u mention it

Is this also why dragonflight was this year

[dusk cliff]

(dragonflight was not this year)

[ionic mason]

@tawny heron btw, how did you cross the border into the desert land

cus i could not get trought the gate, a cart was comming, i just walked inside the cart and took a illegal ride with it trought the border gate

even gave a achievment and the border guards attack me on sight for beeing illegal

[tawny heron]

can pass either in the west or east

theres a cave in the east that goes all the way down to battahl

[ionic mason]

was just funny to get a "you did an illegal border crossing" achievment by smuggeling myself in with a cart

friend got into battahl at lvl20 by beeing on the back of a gryphon, that one looked funny aswell

[tawny heron]

ye theres a few ways

[ionic mason]

the magick archer unlock is so stupid

why can you find magick bows from the very beginning of the game, have vendors that sell their gear

when unlocking the class is on the last zone in the game with a vendor that sells the best gear

[dusk cliff]

shoulda had it unlock at elf town

give that place a reason to exist

[ionic mason]

ye

like, they litearlly ARE magick archers

thats the entire point of the elven archer quest

that the guy learns "normal" archery instead of their magick archery

[dusk cliff]

it is funny that the elven dude you teach is like

"we dont aim we just hope it hits"

[ionic mason]

ye cus they are magick archer and their stuff just hits

homing misles yo

cultural aimbot usage

[dusk cliff]

it was just a funny quest where the dude couldnt understand why he was ass at the bow and then dropped that line

[ionic mason]

like, sorry but the vocation unlocks should all be in Vermuth

aka you get a quest there that leads you somewhere, and you get the vocation afterwardss

like sorcerer/warrior

[dusk cliff]

they should all at least have an attached quest that starts in vermuth yea

[ionic mason]

and warfarer late

warfarer beeing in the last zone? sure, its a class that needs you to having maxed out multiple other classes in the first place

[ionic mason]

my pawn is ok now

[brave vapor]

lmao

i rlly wanna like spear but... its so.... ugh

slow

not in a good way

[brave vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHjbmaR3BI

she does rlly well to explain why i like this game and not elden ring

[tawny heron]

Yeah, it's one of those few games that really wanna make you explore

[devout marlin]

i really like exploring yea

[tawny heron]

You may not always come back with a new piece of loot, but you come back with a memorable experience

a big part of that is the lack of fast travel

you dont just go to a dungeon or cave, explore it, and teleport back

https://www.ign.com/articles/dragons-dogma-2-director-explains-why-less-fast-travel-can-be-a-good-thing

theres a reason i call games like skyrim "themepark simulators", because the game is basically just one massive themepark with a bunch of clearly marked attractions, but the journey from one attraction to another is entirely boring and feels like a waste of time

[devout marlin]

yea and when you are not super strong sometimes you have to bail

like the classic at the beginning if one of the bisons die

and you get ganked by a gryphon

or the dragon that can spawn next to the lizard village or the one in the battlefield

[tawny heron]

ye

tbf the dragon in melve is actually a scripted event

gryphons attacking ox-carts are not

gryphons are just coded to track and attack cows

[devout marlin]

no i was talking about the one in harve

sometimes if you go there he is just chilling

[dusk cliff]

yea theres a few that hang around harve

[devout marlin]

imagine you are lvl 10

and you that fucker

funnily enought there is also a bandit thingy there too

[tawny heron]

oh that one

ye

you still soemtimes get the gryphon vs dragon action or ogre vs minotaur etc.

[ionic mason]

@tawny heron im in the ||unmoored world|| rn, and can i be honest

its kinda lame that the best gear comes....from a vendor.....

[tawny heron]

i was hoping the enemies there had like

special drops and shit

like bbi cursed items

[ionic mason]

like, i killed a lesser dragon, got a chest armor and thought "cool, so the bosses here drop the best stuff?" just to see that normal vendors sold the same shit AND the dragon items are just better

[tawny heron]

not all of them, but ye

[ionic mason]

just confusing

[tawny heron]

hoping expansio ndoes a lot of stuff to the itemization and stuff

so you can do a bit more fashions dogma

item wise

[ionic mason]

but hey, atleast my pawn is broken now

[tawny heron]

like upgrading items to the "best" stats or smth

[ionic mason]

stunlocking drakes by himself

and 1,1k knockdown res is not overkill

tbh, knockdown res feels so mandatory

only because knockdown/stagger is annoying as fuck

[devout marlin]

formless is bae too i miss it while i leveled other things

[brave vapor]

Theres a few of scripted events

Like some cyclops in some area entrances

Or the cyclops in the river that u have to let the water flow

But even if scripted doesnt mean they are must done to progress

I take em kinda like

Tutorial encounters

The river cyclops is to teach u about using the enviorement

Doesnt rlly hold ur hand tho just has an npc saying it might be a good idea, but i kinda just shitted on it before that lol

[brave vapor]

Ok i confirmed whats the thing about open world that dd2 does so well in comparison to others.... by playing final fantasy 11

The mmo is... extremely old but it gives kinda the same vibe as dd2, and maybe classic wow u could say?

Ofc in dd2 theres way more to explore or find than in an early 2000s mmo, but its the feeling of exploring an unknown zone with nothing more than a small map tracking your steps or some coordinates or visual guidance that doesnt spoil the sense of exploring to simply guide you

But also the reason you get so inmersed (in my case) is the sense of danger and that u cant just stop right there in middle of a dangerous zone

Like i mean, u can ofc

[tawny heron]

yeah

[brave vapor]

But in those trips or quests that u feel your life is constantly on the line, while u could stop the game there, something tells u to keep going and see the end of it

[tawny heron]

like i said, the inability to just fast travel out, or rather, the high cost associated with it, makes it give it a sense of danger

especially because you often start travelling in the morning

then you find a cave, you explore it, you come out, and its pitch fucking dark

[brave vapor]

Yea

[dusk cliff]

my only problem is just that the monster variety is cooked

[tawny heron]

so then you kinda try to find your way back to a campfire or a city in the middle fo the night

[dusk cliff]

theres less than base game dd1

[brave vapor]

And nothing is stopping u from closing the game after the cave

But something inside tells u

[tawny heron]

which adds a whole other layer of exploration and danger to it. its just dont really well imo

[brave vapor]

I have to get to safety

Then i can stop

[tawny heron]

ye dd2 monster variety is severely lacking

[dusk cliff]

like the exploration is cool and all theres just like no payoff to it

you arent gonna find equipment you cant buy, you arent gonna find a new cool monster to fight 90% of the time

[tawny heron]

well

in the early stages theres stuff you find

that are major upgrades

while the vendor selection is limited

[brave vapor]

Is the first dd1 everyone gets to experience the 1.0 game as it came out fresh or is it a dlc+base game

Bc it has dark arisen in the title so idk if its like

Both in 1

[tawny heron]

its both

[dusk cliff]

i played both dd1 and dd da

[tawny heron]

dark arisen adds bitterblack isle

[dusk cliff]

da was phenomenal dlc, fixed the game basically

[tawny heron]

ye

its if darksouls was good

[dusk cliff]

coincidentally also a different director

[brave vapor]

Maybe dd2 needs a dark arisen to be fully cooked

[tawny heron]

from the leaks ive seen

(which im not 100% sure can be trusted)

[dusk cliff]

noticed that itsuno didnt put a single monster in from the games he didnt direct

[tawny heron]

the expansion coming later this year

is pretty massive in scope

[dusk cliff]

he also didnt put everything in from base dd1 lol, not even like saurian kings or gargoyles

[brave vapor]

All i ask

Is that for the love of all thats good

Dont let capcom cook

[dusk cliff]

wdym

[brave vapor]

Dont tease a release date or some shit

Le the devs finish the dlc

[dusk cliff]

capcom has been on a roll

dd2 kinda the exception

[tawny heron]

i mean tbf kenoshita was lead game designer on dd2

[dusk cliff]

yea but he clearly didnt get as much say

[tawny heron]

dunno

i think they just limited the monster stuff for now

[brave vapor]

I mean capcoms been on a roll but the games defo had issues

[tawny heron]

knowing theyll put a bunch more and new ones into the DLC

so the game feels fresh from start to finish

[brave vapor]

I remember RE village

[tawny heron]

one issue that dark arisen had, was that it was very selfcontained

[brave vapor]

Had a constant fps bug

That was only fixed in a crack

[tawny heron]

i can post the "leaked" stuff here ig

just need to find it

[dusk cliff]

thats from their shitty drm

[brave vapor]

Which dd2 has

[dusk cliff]

and dd2 runs bad lol

but i mean game design wise capcom has been doing good

[brave vapor]

I didnt finish the main game yet (im struggling with keeping with 5 games at the same time) but sure

I feel like

The story has a very predictable ending

[dusk cliff]

what story lol

[brave vapor]

I mean.... theres a story somewhere...

[dusk cliff]

certainly snippets of one

[tawny heron]

take it with a massive grain of salt

[brave vapor]

I find it funny they clearly tried to make Ulrika be a Melina

Its not even subtle

[dusk cliff]

i dont believe that seli

only bc of the price point lol

30$ for a game the size of one they just charged 70 for

[tawny heron]

like, dd2 feels incomplete for a reason

but ye like i said

take it with a grain of salt ofc

nov 29th is the supposed date

dd2s story is basically terrible

[dusk cliff]

tbh instead of a new region id rather another big dungeon

[tawny heron]

dd1 already didnt have a huge story but like

[dusk cliff]

like DA felt like a dnd module

[brave vapor]

I think dd2 suffers from breath of the wild syndrome

[tawny heron]

it was infinitely better than dd2 imo

[brave vapor]

Everyone is there for the exploration and combat

[tawny heron]

ye but the problem with BBI was that it was self contained and high level requirement

[brave vapor]

But very few talk about the plot

[tawny heron]

so you basically couldnt explore it until you finished the game

or were very good at the game

[dusk cliff]

which is fine i feel for an expansion

[tawny heron]

so for returning players it was just a big "oof" moment

to go through the game again or get back into it

[dusk cliff]

they could do what dragon age did and just let u create a character that starts at the dlc

like they did for awakening

[tawny heron]

and suddenly fight gorecyclops, elder ogres, cockatrices etc.

but ye idk

i prefer everfall over dd2 postgame, personally

both story wise and like

[dusk cliff]

gameplay wise for sure

[tawny heron]

gameplay wise ig dd2 postgame is nice

but onlyk for a few hours

regardless, i got my moneys worth from dd2 so im happy

[brave vapor]

Do it the dark souls way, stick ur nose where u shouldnt and get sucked into a portal and then crushed by a giant hand

[dusk cliff]

dd2 postgame suffers from the monster variety issue

[tawny heron]

i just regret starting as sorc

and steamrolling the game

and i didnt even find any of the busted sorc gear on my first playthrough

[dusk cliff]

i havent finished yet, my laptop has shit the bed so i havent done any gaming

building a pc next week

[tawny heron]

theres 2 things i miss in dd2

its the regular party banter when fighting small enemies, like pawns telling you to jump and cut off lizard tails for example

[brave vapor]

I would be ok if whatever new zone had an easy teleport to the hub, its the only spammable fast travel id accept

[tawny heron]

and enemies are way too passive

[brave vapor]

But it only works between 2 hubs

[dusk cliff]

i feel like theres too many enemies near the roads too

[tawny heron]

ye

but theyre just

not aggressive enough

[dusk cliff]

its like constant combat from point a to b of small fry

[tawny heron]

they dont really get in your face

you get ambushed by 6 or 7 vietkong goblins and they all leap at you once, and then they stand there for like 5 seconds watching you cast a spell

[dusk cliff]

my experience has been everytime you go to shoot an arrow they kncok you down

archer is miserable lol

[brave vapor]

The goblin watching as the warrior is charging a hammer earthquake

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-cat-blinking-cat-funny-cat-funny-cat-blinking-gif-27202865

https://tenor.com/view/gato-misil-gif-25497374

[tawny heron]

idk

i loved archer

and heavenly shot is great

onetapping any dragon or gryphon flying over water

[dusk cliff]

tbf i went from thief to archer

and coming off that high anything would feel bad

[tawny heron]

archer also fastest way to level with medusa bow

[dusk cliff]

no reason to farm levels lol

[tawny heron]

i mean 20-30lvl difference is pretty big

[dusk cliff]

you go from 2 phasing things to 1 phasing them

[tawny heron]

ye

like i said

pretty big

[dusk cliff]

dunno just never any real danger

only heights

[tawny heron]

ye it quickly becomes a matter of "how fast can i kill this" instead of a fight for survival

but thats fine by me

[dusk cliff]

ever play nioh

or nioh 2 ig

game goes from a soulslike on ng to diablo by the time you get to ng+2 bc of gear drops lol

[ionic mason]

you steamroll as everything

except Trickster

cus trickster is barely functional

[tawny heron]

i had no issues with trickster either idk

the damage buff you give your pawns is fucking massive

and you get your legendary ability for free when you get the class

so you have it from level 1

[ionic mason]

allright, finished the game

[brave vapor]

Only 91 hours?

[brave vapor]

i have a feeling i shouldnt be here at low level lol

[brave vapor]

:o

oh oh

ofc the fucking pawn with the helmet on

[ionic mason]

it transfers all the time anyway

• has 200000 sings and takes ages until something actually happens tbh

still a really badly implemented and halfbaked mechanic with no real value, but its borderline impossible to get affected by it unless it bugs out

[brave vapor]

i think the only reason its there is so ur constantly swapping pawns

and dont stick with a main 2

could something better be implemented? yeah ig so

but i mean idk, its like really scary to hear "your pawn might get a joker moment" so u constantly are swapping and checking on them rather than just grab and go idk

it couldve been implemented better tho for sure

[ionic mason]

the funny part is

the plague has 10 "stages"

and the symptoms get more obvious on each stage, eye glow stronger, they disobey more often etc....., and the stages progress when ingame time Progresses or you rest

and the town nuke only happens at stage 10 when you rest in a town, everything before that does nothing

but everytime you rest the plague gets transfered to another pawn in your group and reset to stage 7

so if you regulary rest in camps, it does litearlly nothing at all lol

[brave vapor]

im trying trickster

i find it an amazing class and cool concept that doesnt work rlly well in this game bc the combat then just revolves in cheesing enemies

but also

id love to see something like it in an mmo

like a "warlock" tank but the pet tanks and you guide it and also buff ur allies and u dont rlly deal damage but manage buffs/debuffs/field conditions

i feel it'd make so much more sense in an enviorement with other people

[wispy trellis]

just treat ur pawns like pets and now ur just playing a full on pet class

[tawny heron]

biggest issue with trickster is that while you can instakill most enemies by tricking them, you dont get their loot as a result

but i found the damage buff to be very substantial

just wish some of the skills had more range

[ionic mason]

Trickster is just a warfarer class tbh

Trickster+mage staff for heals+some weapon that doesnt need many skills to be effective, daggers or Bow or Sword+shield, something like that

[brave vapor]

wtf is sorcerer

prescient flare isnt a skill its a hydrogen bomb

literally took 3 healthbars off a big birb by putting it in the head then spamming bolts

[tawny heron]

ye the upgraded version is, err, kinda silly

[wispy trellis]

i just realized
|| gran soren and blue moon tower are in this game||

LOL

[tawny heron]

and blue moon tower is mirrored since it seems this is an alternate world

[wispy trellis]

i spoilered it for a reason

wow

just not spoilering ur shit

[tawny heron]

game's been out a while, we've talked plenty of spoilers in here by this point

:/

[wispy trellis]

lol

[tawny heron]

but yeah, its just a theory on my end

i just noticed that its mirrored

[dusk cliff]

only like 5 people in here

i think we’ve all been pretty thorough by now lol

[devout marlin]

the spoilermen

[dusk cliff]

hacha here too now make that 6

[devout marlin]

i was here since day 0

[brave vapor]

no im still in cat city lol

well i mean im trying to do every single shit and find every single shit

[ionic mason]

im in ng+ and still cant decide if i want my pawn as a fighter or warrior ok?

[brave vapor]

rip @icy narwhal

fell off while mounting the ogre

[wispy trellis]

o7

[brave vapor]

this elf comes in naked in the hot spring to teach me to be a hunter

what did he mean by this

[icy narwhal]

Ye I wasn't focused mb, got distracted irl, give me some time to come back up brb

[brave vapor]

if you all wanna try a new game that has the same oompfh as dd2 i recommend Granblue Fantasy Relink

its anime and weeby yeah but it has that feeling of big bosses and cooperation, treasure hunting and amazing combat

its linear but it's open linear as in you can explore a lot in the maps and theres a lot of hidden stuff and parkouring

the bosses can also be co-op and raid-like hard

[brave vapor]

this is the lvl 30 mid mainstory boss :p

[dusk cliff]

problem with granblue fantasy is its just piss easy

[ionic mason]

so....like DD2?

[dusk cliff]

yeah but when ur game is a monhun clone you kinda need difficulty at some point

[ionic mason]

fair point

[dusk cliff]

dd2 is an adventure game where the difficulty isnt the end all be all

[ionic mason]

honestly, 1 thing i think is just kinda lame

is that the "stuff that happend when i was in another players world" dialoge you get after restig is just random stuff and not what actually happend

gave my pawn the quest to kill a chimera cus he is at 27 out of 30 kills for the Badge, came back with no progress made but then tells me how he fought a chimera, stuff like that

[tawny heron]

AI in relink is just too strong, unironically

Since they always hit their perfect evades and blocks

[brave vapor]

how far did u reach

at the beginning is easy unless u arent playing in hard mode

but at the end of the day you also have co-op raids

[dusk cliff]

i grinded out the entire terminus weapon

so safe to say i have completed the game lmao

[tawny heron]

gallanza+maglielle duo was the hardest fight in the game imo, rest is just evade/block spam and even if youre not super good yourself, AI can carry you through every fight if you have decent gear for them

[dusk cliff]

criminal that the end game "grind" fight was proto bahamut bc god

imagine if monhun was like "farm zorah magdaros forever"

[tawny heron]

ye idk

i havent done luci yet

but kinda dont even feel like returning, game just needs some changes in regards to damage cap and the RNG on curios and shit

just boring how every character build is kinda the same

war elemental, supp damage, damage cap and then you maybe have 2-3 free supports for ap if you need it or evades/potions

[dusk cliff]

yeah im not gonna reinstall for a single fight

esp when the reward for it is more damage cap sigils to further homogenize every character lol

[tawny heron]

ye

[brave vapor]

thats pretty much every rpg tbh

[tawny heron]

not really, no

even if that were the case, which it isnt, the fact they have such a deep system and then fuck themselves over with the damage cap system, is their own fault

[dusk cliff]

your only level 30 so it isnt clear yet but once you get to the endgame youll see what we mean

[tawny heron]

theres so much cool stuff you could theoretically do build wise, but it all ends up being inferior, and like, massively inferior, to the one go-to build that every character has to play

[brave vapor]

ig that's sad to hear bc so far its starting with a bang

and i do play the mobile game so i know they know how to be difficult

but also suffer from a meta issue but that's more like the community not wanting to try stuff out and stick with what they already spent 1000000 hours of farm

[tawny heron]

its a very enjoyable game

like, dont let what we said discourage you or anything

its just more of a "play it through once" thing unless you really wanna play like 10 different characters

[ionic mason]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma/comments/1ca9e20/what_was_she_trying_to_do_lol/?share_id=rmlTqnV2jQqs5zkpUQiuM&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=13

pawn AI is beatuifull sometimes

[tawny heron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o03TIpOpias

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4hs599qptM

people starting to make custom vocations

alchemist is basically a 1:1 copy from alchemist in dragons dogma online

crazy stuff

[brave vapor]

cant wait for thomas the tank engine bossfight