and actually hit stuff
#Dragon's Dogma 2
tawny heron
dusk cliff
archer feels weird
tawny heron
unlike me
tawny heron
i do like the carry weight bugs you can collect
dusk cliff
as fighter i do scratches until the monster gets downed and then its over
tawny heron
theyre a big W
dusk cliff
i did not know about them
i was like "i keep finding these damn beetles" and my guildies said to use them
tawny heron
this food dude
dusk cliff
bc i just never read the description lol
tawny heron
aaaaah
dusk cliff
figured they would be used in crafting
dusk cliff
have you seen the dragon on the west side yet
dusk cliff
lol
dusk cliff
i saw that dragon and there was guards just chillin in the area
and im just thinking wtf are these npcs doing they're about to die lol
the dungeons are also crazy good so far
you can break walls and shit for hidden passages
tawny heron
okay, i thought the salamander spell sucked, but for big enemies its really good cuz the burning ground stacks
dusk cliff
smh game spoiling itself
giving you weapons for the ? vocation
dinner done and house taken care of, time to game
dusk cliff
https://i.imgur.com/1TauUe9.jpeg
found that cave with the chimera and wight, the wight used tornado that took up the entire room and forced me to wakestone lol
ionic mason
the best part about fighter
blocking fall dmg
the animation is so stupid 
tbh, fighter plays sick af overall, didnt expect that
they just gave it way more of a "do single bigger strikes that count" gameplay with counters/block timings, and it feels so good to parry a minotaur charge into a single heavy attack doing 50% of a bar
dusk cliff
yeah the finisher basic move fighter gets is sick
brave vapor
Cant wait to be home and slay some goblins
Fun fact the literal first sidequest of the game
devout marlin
like an aderall puma
brave vapor
there is something about just slashing
When you grab a flying enemy with a rope and then do a sonic spin midair
Dd2 thief is what i wished dual dagger in monster hunter was
dusk cliff
cant hear you over doing a front flip and swatting those harpies into hell
brave vapor
Dual dagger is dogshit compared to this
devout marlin
im just beginning the game now worked till 10 then did dailies and had a call
kinda hyped
brave vapor
I hope yall been treating yshtolla well
She needs to level up more tho
To catch with yall
ionic mason
@tawny heron random drop from a wright i fought at night 
dusk cliff
all the way around lol
feels like they replaced every instance of what would be cyclops in dd1 with ogres in this one
they feel so much more common
brave vapor
all the way around lol
oh
dusk cliff
bring a mage if you do go that cave is nasty if you dont have magic
dusk cliff
incredible achievement name
tawny heron
why can NPCs fall from heights 3x as high as the ones that kill me from full HP
so far my biggest issue is that i feel the aim assist is completely garbage
you have to shoot the mouse off screen to target another mob sometimes
i literally have 2 mobs hitting me in the face, and casting a targetspell sometimes either doesnt find a target, or locks onto a mob 50y away
brave vapor
all the way around lol
amd where's the entrance to this lol
brave vapor
nvm found it
lmao concussive shot in thief is so fucking fun to climb ledges
concussive step*
nvm its not that
i thought i found the way i didnt
oh wait
you meant going through the cave...
not a cliff in your mouse points
tawny heron
i still feel like the game is just unplayable without a mage in your party
dusk cliff
yeah the first slime you run into is GG if you dont have a mage
dusk cliff
you meant going through the cave...
oh yeah my bad it was def not on my mouse, it was the cave in the top left lol
Also no chance in hell anyone finds all 240 seekers tokens unassisted
tawny heron
@dusk cliff is there a portcrystal in bakbattahl?
running around but couldnt find one so far, but idk if its just kinda hidden in a corner somewhere
dusk cliff
<@318495964295856131> is there a portcrystal in bakbattahl?
dawg i have not gone that far lol
still doing quests in north half
dusk cliff
for reference
naw spearhand is apparently in marve? guildie had an event where a dragon attacked and when he repelled it a dude taught him mystic spearhand
man all the wandering pawns look like bandits rn lol
dusk cliff
to get spearhand
can confirm its in marve
brave vapor
oh yeah my bad it was def not on my mouse, it was the cave in the top left lol
i ended up going to that cave
let's say... the surprise i found ended up fully buying the game for me
if i had any concerns
tawny heron
its one of those games where exploration just feels fun, even if you end up only finding shit loot 
tawny heron
can confirm its in marve
yeah i err
made an oopsie by not turning in one of the quests 
time for mage pawn so i dont feel like dogshit all the time
without any consumables and shit
brave vapor
its one of those games where exploration just feels fun, even if you end up only...
Its weird bc
I hate genshin exploration
Or even elden rings one
But this game feels different
Its like everything is pretty well put together and at a nice pace
dusk cliff
let's say... the surprise i found ended up fully buying the game for me
tf did u find in that cave
unless you went to the other cave on that map which had 2 boss monsters lol
brave vapor
why can NPCs fall from heights 3x as high as the ones that kill me from full HP
Isnt your pawn a mage that can levitate
brave vapor
tf did u find in that cave
On the way to that cave there was a big cyclops
And the way i killed it was taking its eye off and oneshotting its last healthbar
dusk cliff
Ahh
brave vapor
Im actually finding it rlly hard to climb to the head
Or just climbing in general
I guess its bc it consumes a shit ton of stamina but its like i always end up halfway
Or maybe its bc the only way to reach the top is by using other methods like walljumping or something else
Cant do it from the ground?
dusk cliff
some moves give you airtime but generally i find you want to knock monsters over and then get on the head as they’re getting up
you can also just climb them and use stamina items if yoy want
brave vapor
we just built different
plus fighter is balanced
its supposed to be a balance between defense and offense
while thief is basically an adderall overdose
i guess what youd be looking for is warrior not fighter
dusk cliff
like i think maybe the fast travel is grabbing mobs nearby?
at least mine happened after a fast travel
tawny heron
mhhh rip 3 hours of progress becuase this game just doesnt do saves well
and the last inn rest was 3hrs ago
ionic mason
wtf thief does 10x the damage
nah
fighter is just
80% parry/heavy attack counter based
like
its ALL ablut staggering the enemys->heavy attack into instant kill
or staggering a boss->heavy attack into 1 entire healthbar gone
and using skills like the counter dodge roll for big dmg/doing perfect blocks etc.....
devout marlin
yea thief is about cool combos and using stamina well
getting enchanted then helm splitter is so cool
ionic mason
aaaaaaaahhhh that class is so sick
ionic mason
use the "you get attacked more often" passive, not a joke
btw, if you play a mage/sorc, rank2 thief for sublety is great aswell
dusk cliff
levelling thief rn for the str augment
tbh most augments look like QOL or minor upgrades this time around which i think i prefer
ionic mason
ye
idk i maxed fighter cus that was my goal anyway
did 1 rank mage for the magic deff cus hey, its basically free
started some thief, but then unlocked mystic spear, and now im playing that
but overall ye, unless you have a very specific goal and wanna max almost ALL vocations, they are mostly small things
@molten burrow
molten burrow
Fap 
dusk cliff
thats for like 50 seekers tokens isnt it
ionic mason
15 iirc
ionic mason
allright, mystic feels OP af lol
can just climb instantly to the weakspots of all bigger enemys all the time with 0 downtime while doing very high physical and magic dmg
dusk cliff
devout marlin
mfw people discover capcom's games after 12 years
then remember you can just
not spend money
ionic mason
ye its just like
the mtx stuff is scummy af and is clearly preying on clueless people that dont know that its litearlly resources you get shoved in your backside in the game anyway
and should be bashed for that
but outside of that + some performance issues its awesome lol
dusk cliff
some of the performance issues are bad
guildie of mine can't see the ground so just guesses where its safe to stand bc of doodads like rocks lol
devout marlin
yea game can take like 10GB of DRAM from the GPU
if you have less might need to go look to what graphics things to put down
tawny heron
i do like that it shows how your settings will effect the RAM load of your GPU
but ye its
not optimized well i feel
but i fully expected it to be janky
devout marlin
yea the reason games are harder to optimize on pc is because there is sucha big diff on architectures gen to gen and even on the same gem
dusk cliff
the missing ground texture is an issue for a lot of ppl apparently and theres no fix rn
devout marlin
and compute needs rigid rules etc
best thing you can do rn is tune first for the higher end then go down from there
like how intel is going with the DX 11-9 things
tawny heron
i thought sitting on 150k gold was me being rich. i thought wrong.
devout marlin
damn i have 15k
devout marlin
hangers
molten burrow
weight issues solved
Nothing wrong with the way you look baby
dusk cliff
that probably replaces dragonforging chance on drake kill then
tawny heron
its a fourth enhance
but costs wyrmlife crystals and you only get those from dragons, ye
and its a contested resource cuz
dusk cliff
yeah dragonforging was a 4th enhance you could just only get it thru killing dragons and rng in base game
wispy trellis
uh, help
wispy trellis
imma kill em
i tried to kill a griffin the other day but it ran away like a pussy
ez
devout marlin
harvest their balls
wispy trellis
yep
dusk cliff
The amount of pop in during the masquerade quest lol
tawny heron
20 wyrmlife crystals from a single dragon kill
its crazy how little vocation points they give tho
killing 5 hobgoblins gives the same amount as killing a drake
dusk cliff
vp seem plentiful anyway
like youll get enough to max a vocation just thru ranking it up probably
tawny heron
well its the same thing
you rank up by getting disciipline
and you spend discipline to unlock skills
ionic mason
man
the shit that can happen sometimes is hilarious
took a oxcart from Melve to the city
ogre attacks the cart at evening->kill the ogre
the moment he is down a gryphon comes down and eats the ox and attacks me->defeat the gryphon
then its night and a horde of undead appears aswell
I JUST WANTED TO VISIT THE TOWN AGAIN
tawny heron
okay WHAT THE FUCK
im minding my own business
using one of those ropeway carts in battahl
ionic mason
and my pawn is getting big
almost doing fully solo a minotaur now
tawny heron
suddenly a fucking gryphon crashes into it
destroys it
we all fall down and insta die
???
wispy trellis
skill issue
dusk cliff
i had an ogre throw me a football field distance but bc it was on flat terrain i didnt die
i was just really far away from the fight lol
ionic mason
we all fall down and insta die
"wakestone check"
dusk cliff
I have found a sphinx
ionic mason
most enemies are way too fast for them i feel
people do the same mistske with them that they did in dd1
all skills beeing the OMG BIG DMG CHARGE FOR AGES ones
instead of the fast abilitys
dusk cliff
its important trust
ionic mason
if you guys didnt play it yet, do it, its stupid the shit you can do, blinking around in battles and telporting in into the air while summoning seeking missles at the same time
its some DMC level shit
dusk cliff
you get tasked to go find it again and you have 7 in game days to do it
ionic mason
i think i somewhat do
dusk cliff
oh no
it is not at the place i remembered it being
apparently the quest reward for the whole chain is a reusable wakestone
devout marlin
i had 1 minotaur
then another
then another
fucking ended a generation it seems
dusk cliff
found the location we're in business
devout marlin
just noted it down
dusk cliff
you could rest at an inn, check spots you know it would be and if u miss the timer just reload af last inn
the token wont spawn until you get the quest tho
brave vapor
Idk if im playing this game right but im lvl 17 with only doing 4 quests
It all started on an adventure
To see a fucking elf
That wants me to shoot a target
That trip took me like
9 deaths
2 cyclops
1 minotaur
1 chimera
1 rock golem
And a shit ton of goblins
Oh and 4 camp rests
I even had a pawn die
wispy trellis
ur playing the game right
go wherever your heart (for lack of a better word) desires, for you are arisen
wispy trellis
hmmm, should i engage
brave vapor
anyone knows how to fix dd2 not launching fullscreen?
or maybe just skipping the intro cutscenes?
i wonder if +noIntroCinematics works
its legit stupid bc the game will automatically make every other window smaller even if its full screen lmao
its like its never fullscreen but only when its the main window
ok ig i just put it borderless
dusk cliff
do you think they just forgot to put a portcrystal in bakbattahl or was it itsuno being a dickhead
tawny heron
the latter
since you can actually buy them
they gave you 1 for free for bakbattahl and then you buy more as you play
brave vapor
so... the ranger thighs are... literally just thighs?
i was shaming the pawn archer i got for slutmogging
and it turns out they were the bis pants 😭
dusk cliff
yeah i haven't gotten the free one yet
i got one from the sphinx that i put next to the sphinx lol
brave vapor
hehehehe
brave vapor
Idk if i changed as a person or dd2 has that dawg in it
But i legit played it nonstop for 7 hours
And just began the mainquest now lol
Which is weird bc almost every singleplayer game i play im like bored after 2 hours and need to take a break
But this game just keeps pulling you forward on your curiosity alone rather than quests, even tho the quests do take u to places
But one quest can lead into 5 hours of exploring stuff lmao
I feel having the ability to "parkour" seals the deal
Bc its not like genshin/botw "heres this rock u can climb" or elden ring "heres where u can jump with ur horse"
But more like "heres a shit ton of ledges that may not even work but have fun breaking the game"
Also prob bc theres no fast travel on easy access
I mean theres the stones but in my case i always was like "why use them when i can find things on the way or even big enemies?"
I think this game changed my perception of fast traveling lol
tawny heron
okay nvm,i guess it just doesnt autosave anymore in postgame
so i just lost ~2hrs of prog
maybe 3
because i never used an inn
brave vapor
Huh
tawny heron
ngl, the save system in this game is legit the worst ive seen in 25+ years of gaming
brave vapor
I havent had much issues with it myself for now but i can kinda understand
I guess it has to do with there not being a savefile or multiple for 1 character
So the game shits its pants trying to recreate a "live save"
brave vapor
Maybe
brave vapor
Tbh at this point idk whats intentional and whats not
The game is a fever dream of clunkyness
All i know is that putting 6 eagles on a character-wide sized bridge thats like 1000mt above ground is evil
Specially when ur pawn tries to plunge attack them
Josh is a real g
brave vapor
Recognizing his mistakes and making a video apoligizing
tawny heron
itsuno you fucker
brave vapor
Dont tell me
tawny heron
postgame refers to the game after you finish mainquest
in dd1 you basically killed the dragon that stole your heart, and it unlocked an entirely new game mode
with new/harder mobs, new gear etc.
brave vapor
Im just amazed how people are in post game or collecting the first coin after the 250
And im like
15 hours in
tawny heron
i mean imma be real
brave vapor
And just unlocked sorcerer
brave vapor
Fair fair
tawny heron
and i think i kinda cucked myself
brave vapor
I guess also in my defense i spent a lot of time exploring caves and trying to exploit ledges
brave vapor
and i think i kinda cucked myself
How so, bc no savefile?
tawny heron
well it seems that my ability to do some of the stuff is limited because i didnt make friends with people by doing their quests
but idk how much of that is like
intended or not?
or rather, if the quests im given are post-game only or if i couldve done them earlier
but theres a time limit on everything in post-game it seems
ionic mason
And just began the mainquest now lol
i did 1 mainsstory quest after reaching the city
the "cull some monsters"
the rest is me running around exploring the stuff in the area and doing side quests lol
lvl 31 and im looking for a kid in a wolf cave rn
tawny heron
oh nice
brave vapor
the "cull some monsters"
Oh well about that one
brave vapor
I went to do the quest to get the weapons for sorc and warrior
ionic mason
ye same
brave vapor
And the cave was... rlly open and promising
brave vapor
And i spent about 3 hours exploring it and seeing how to open that fucking door
ionic mason
went to town->unlocked warrior and sorc->did 1 of the "main quests" that guard bro gave me and since then goofing around
brave vapor
And then i accepted that quest lol
ionic mason
unlocked spearhand and im happy blinking around like Vergil in combat
brave vapor
Theres only 1 thing id change in the game so far
Ok maybe 2
1 being concusive step not being so fucking awful to aim
2 is some sort of indication that the rope/grappling is working on a big enemy to make it fall
Although maybe if theres nothing happening it means i aint doing shit
ionic mason
"auto aim" things in general are a bit of a pain
watched my friend playing, and him trying to aim for the head/arms of some biggers monsters with spells is just pain cus it targets w/e it wants and he needs to steer the camera like crazy to change the body part
brave vapor
Ig its better played with a mouse in that regard yea
But ig thats been a historical truth
About being ranged in games
dusk cliff
lvl 31 and im looking for a kid in a wolf cave rn <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
this fucking quest dude
the cave is no where near the “flower area” they send you to lol
ionic mason
it kinda is
there is a trail of picked flower beeds
still took me ssome time yeha lol
tawny heron
somehow i feel i broke my game at some point
did yall get a dragon attack in the very first city? like one that was covered in boils and shit
not city, but the town with ulrika
tawny heron
yeah idk, never happened for me
i also never got a quest that led me to the elven town
just found it myself
but apparently theres a quest youre supposed to get in vernworth
that makes you go there
dusk cliff
yeah i havent gotten that quest yet but i know about it
some elf that hangs out next to the blacksmith? i was told
tawny heron
i also havent done any oracle quests, and never gotten any for it, in battahli
and now im in post-game
dusk cliff
i saw the msq list and it seems short
tawny heron
so apparently i missed a decent chunk of sidequests
dusk cliff
im at feast and it says theres only like 6 more past that
tawny heron
because they never triggered for me
dusk cliff
some sidequests you have to talk to the person, they dont trigger auto
tawny heron
no wonder that battahli seemed very empty for me, i just didnt have any quests there besides like 2 side quests
dusk cliff
yeah i just got to battahl and already have 2 quests and im not even supposed to be here yet
tawny heron
yeah imma be real, in a game with 50+ NPCs randomly running around, im not particularly interested in talking to every one of them every 2-3 visits to a town in case a requirement for a quest has been met since then
dusk cliff
both quests started in vermund tho
tawny heron
oh yeah the shadow of the arisen quest, that dude thats chasing you in vernworth, never found him either. so ye maybe its just smth that bricked for me
yeah you get a bunch of quests for battahl in vernworth
dusk cliff
yeah imma be real, in a game with 50+ NPCs randomly running around, im not parti...
the ones i had to talk to were all stationary
tawny heron
just felt like once i was there, there wasnt a whole lot to do
i mean
i didnt mean it literal
dusk cliff
but i get it, it could benefit from the quest markers dd1 had lol
tawny heron
even if theyre standing around, i aint talking to 10+ NPCs everytime i finish a quest in case it was a preq for another one
im basically just curious
dusk cliff
like i got a quest to go save a dude from a dullahan just talking to a guy in the noble area
dusk cliff
i have a quest rn where i need to get a medusa head to petrify a gryphon so the dude can paint it or something lol
tawny heron
ye
idk like
if i still had my save
from before i engaged the last mainquest
id just load it
dusk cliff
does postgame spawn new monsters?
tawny heron
idk its weird
if you die
its last inn save only
if you load from menu, its last save only
dusk cliff
itsunovision
or bug one of the two
just seems odd that they would take away the option arbitrarily
ionic mason
oh yeah the shadow of the arisen quest, that dude thats chasing you in vernworth...
its some weird hooded guy that walks away from you when you go near him
idk if you missed him or not
tawny heron
trust me
ive spent about an hour
running around looking for it
it just doesnt exist in my game
wasnt in the morgue either
just like the dragon attack in melve
just didnt happen
i did do the saurian quest very late, or rather, i finished it early, but i turned it in super delayed. so maybe that broke it somehow. but yeah, idk. unlucky ig
ionic mason
pawns not beeing 90% female mages/sorcerer challenge (impossible)
if they would atleast give them decent skills
or just, anything at all 
tawny heron
good game
enemy variety is a bit disappointing
and as a result the game feels too easy
still worth it tho, cant wait to see what it plays like with mods and performance improvements
not too shabby
shouldve bought some weapons for other vocations before doing the last quest
wispy trellis
u can def miss shit if u move on with the msq, they even give u a tutorial pop up for that early on i think
theres no hard mode like in dd1 is there
(even hard mode in dd1 was ez, but still)
tawny heron
nah
my biggest issues are deifnitely
- game is too easy
- save system is dogshit
- UI is still awful
tawny heron
u cant even save through menu
you can but postgame only has 1 save slot you can use from menu, which is "last save", and if you die, it will only let you load from inn-saves, not auto/manual ones.
and once you finish, your only choice is "start ng+", so i cant load my save i made before the last quest.
tawny heron
good part about NG+: entire map is discovered
well, its revealed, but you dont see stuff you didnt discover in your first playthrough, so no cave markings for caves you hadnt found
ionic mason
(even hard mode in dd1 was ez, but still)
hardmode in dd1 was stupid af cus it made the game more easy
cus you got waaay more exp
and just outlevled everything ridicolous fast, and in dd1 level was everything
wispy trellis
yea
dusk cliff
problem was you got 1 shot by everything for the first 5 hours
so melee was out the question
ionic mason
allright
guys
wtf is the dragonplague mechanic
thats the dumbest shit i have ever seen
like, legit, wtf is that
it has 0 value too the game and just has a chance to brick somone forever, in a game that has no safe files
wispy trellis
well u can find out if a pawn has it
just yeet them if they do
its pretty much there to ensure ur taking care of ur pawns properly,
ie, noticing if they have the symptoms and handling that
by using commands
dusk cliff
properly, ie brining them after fighting dragons
dusk cliff
we handled the plague irl by people dying en masse lol
wispy trellis
yea but we learned from it (even though we shouldve learned from the other plagues)
😛
but yea its a rough mechanic
brave vapor
wispy trellis
skill issue
dusk cliff
ionic mason
its pretty much there to ensure ur taking care of ur pawns properly,
"take care of them"
aka "kill your mainpawn lol"
its a dogshit mechanic lol
like
i just saw a friends game getting bricked at lvl8
cus he hired some pawns after reaching the capital->went to the inn->all dead now
ionic mason
🙂
like
its so fucking stupid as a mechanic
"lol everyone is dead now"
thought it would be smth like "your pawn turns into a drake and you fight it"
dusk cliff
at least you can probably wakestone them back to life
so dont fuck up the sphinx quest to get your reusable one lol
ionic mason
just remove that fucking mechanic
what the fuck is that
whats the value in that
"lol, can make an entire town devoid of everyone xd"
and the "solution" beeing.....kill your own pawn?
like wtf
wispy trellis
i mean, its a pay attention to ur pawns mechanic
im not saying its great tho
gdi, i was killing a dragon, then a griffin came in and the dragon left
the thing i hate is that theres no vendor buy back
ive accidentally sold so many things lol
devout marlin
yea watch out on that
wispy trellis
mind u there is a way to get some items back but man lol
brave vapor
i think the best i can say about the game is that it hates you and it wishes you suffer the most painful death possible
take that as a positive or an egative
There's a ladder here
brave vapor
im trying to get to this im too stubborn 😭
devout marlin
there was 1 chest that was like in a pitfall or something
the correct way would be to go mage and float down
i just went
FACEPLANT
use wakestone
brave vapor
interesting find in a super small cave
ionic mason
well
that totally great dragonplague mechanic made 2 friends now stop the game
turns out
bricking someones savefile by force is not a good mechanic that makes people not enjoy your game 🙂
tawny heron
If only there was a way to load a previous save
Most of the issues of this game would be fixed with a better save system
But yeah, the plague is gonna spread more now that more people are playing it and spreading it I think
wispy trellis
theres no tutorial prompt for dragonplague if u get it huh
ionic mason
mate
the thing is
i litearlly saw it on discord stream
fucking lvl 8 and reached the first capital
went to the pawns guild and summoned some pawns->went to the inn too sleep because the quest told him to meet the guard guy at night
instantly the dragonplague wipe happens, entire town dead now
and his mainquest is just "find and kill the dragon" now
the entire game turned into "your first main hub is empty now, kill the final boss"
wispy trellis
oof
ionic mason
its so immersive that you summon pawns, notice that 1 guy has it, dismiss them, take your own pawn and throw him into the ocean just to instantly summon him again and get 2 new pawns now
❤️
srsly, thats the worst "game mechanic" i saw in close to a decade lol
wispy trellis
if there was a proper warning prompt other than ur pawns just talking about it every time u summon them
and maybe something u can actually do instead of brine them
if only
ionic mason
like, when i saw the prompt for it i thought it was smth like
your pawn will slowly turn on you and starts attack you in combat
or your pawn turns into a drake (cus its called dragonplague you now, and dragons/drakes where mortals once)
and not
"lol everyone dead now xd"
wispy trellis
the warning is when ur pawns just talk about it
they literally talk about the symptoms
just theres 0 solutions given
and its kinda abrupt since u HAVE to pay attention to them
by order spamming to see if they ghaev it
brave vapor
if there was a proper warning prompt other than ur pawns just talking about it e...
theres also indications while exploring
its not just like them talking about "going crazy" but like they do legit go crazy while exploring
wispy trellis
yes i know
wispy trellis
lol
its just not great indicators for something that can completely screw your playthrough
brave vapor
yea
i think its a really cool idea but i feel the main issue is hiring then going to sleep
wispy trellis
yea
brave vapor
like what i do is when i finish exploring
i dismiss all
then go sleep
then i hire again
but yea
its a very anti "casual" game
but also the dd2 director said they want that
brave vapor
lol
wispy trellis
i get the abruptness, its part of the adventure and ur story
i 100% understand how that could be appealing
but man is it rough
brave vapor
i feel this is like how old games were
wispy trellis
yea
brave vapor
it reminds me a lot of morrowind
wispy trellis
its very old school
brave vapor
i do agree with what the director said tho
"you dont like traveling by foot bc ur game is boring"
he's right tbh
i have only used the portal stone once and that was bc it was halfway across the map
every other time i actually had fun exploring
wispy trellis
i use them if i absolutely just want to turn in shit
brave vapor
yea
brave vapor
i havent gotten there yet lol
wispy trellis
i explored and randomly stumbled into it
brave vapor
but i do feel more games start this trend of better exploring and less fast travelling
kinda like spiderman
wispy trellis
dd2 has skyrim exploration vibes
brave vapor
i didnt play it but i heard swinging across the city is fun af
wispy trellis
u gotta make exploration fun somehow
devout marlin
didnt try to fight them tbh
brave vapor
dd2 has skyrim exploration vibes
Except "that mountain? You can climb it" is true in this game unlike skyrim
brave vapor
I think if wow keeps improving on dragonflying for tww its gonna completly erase fast traveling
Surely not continent to continent but you know whatd be cool? If the portal rooms in tww hub were floating in the air or something like that and they send u to that place when flying
Kinda like oribos in SL
(But done well)
brave vapor
I swear dragonriding saved wow
People understimate how a good travelling system can make a game
After all its 90% of what u do in a game
wispy trellis
dragon riding made leveling insane
brave vapor
Maybe thats why i didnt like elden ring
ionic mason
i feel this is like how old games were
i mean
DD1 was allready "oldschool af"
and it didnt had a "lol nuke gran soren xd" mechanic
hell, you couldnt even kill quest npcs there
wispy trellis
yea
its kinda weird dragon plague exists NOW, but i havent played through main quest to figure out if theres plot there
u know what wouldve been pog
if u fight the previous arisen again like in dd1, but it was ur dd1 arisen somehow ported over because dd2 peeked ur dd1 save
assuming u did that ending on ur save
ionic mason
yeha, i dont think you can transfer savestates from a over 10 year old game that is 2 console generations old
ionic mason
like, honestly rn it feels like
that entire "mechanic" will get more and more outrage when it actually happens to more people
or the classic move, when it happens to some bigtime streamer
wispy trellis
happens to some big streamer, game director just laughs
tawny heron
theres no tutorial prompt for dragonplague if u get it huh
There is
literally pops this up when you add a pawn that has it
tawny heron
ye just saying
the "it just randomly happens" aint exactly true. when i saw that i was like "uh-oh" and swapped out the pawn i invited and gave him a rotten apple
its still a bad mechanic
wispy trellis
what do u mean
tawny heron
NG+ has no difficulty scaling, everythings dying in one spell 
even if i switch vocation and use basic gear, i just have so many stats from leveling 
wispy trellis
oof no scaling
tawny heron
switching pawn to sorc now ig
otherwise game is gonna become boring very quick if i keep playing it myself
wispy trellis
play 0 pawn
tawny heron
ye the lv50 pawns arent helping
so ill just recruit basic ones
play archer cuz thats hardmode
sorcerer is just too easy
id go back to trickster but no censer and i cant buy one anywhere cuz its the start of the game. unlucky.
dusk cliff
Dd1 had no ng scaling either
dusk cliff
real talk tho, why cpu bind your game with a bunch of do nothing npcs lol
brave vapor
i kinda wanna try magick archer
dusk cliff
nah they mention it every time i get them out of the rift
tawny heron
yeah but i also had the pop-up for the tutorial at some point
these are like
level 10 characters
so i doubt they fought a dragon yet
but time to ill me main pawn
dusk cliff
my guildie that cant see the floor has had two towns get wiped out by plague now lol
brave vapor
actual good commentary on the mtx situation
not shitting on the mtx but capcom publishers for being fucking stupid
brave vapor
you know how stupid is this situation?
its so stupid that even asmongold has a good take in the issue
which i mean it isnt a "good take" on his own more like what people with literacy comprehension have lol
tawny heron
only good take on all of this so far ive seen from shroud
which was roughly: "wait, this is what people complain about? lmao. people happily pay 10$ extra for a 'deluxe edition' to get some extra healthpots, a cloak and some ingame currency, but when they a dev does it like this its a major problem"
every capcom had this same monetization, it was never an issue because the people complaining about it got drowned out because the games were good. this time thats not happening, cause people are mad about other shit so this gets a lot more traction all of a sudden and every content creator jumps on it
where was the outrage over RE4 or DMC5 mtx?
problem isnt the devs putting this in there, cause they put it into every other game as well. problem is cringey content creators using this for clout to get views and clicks by shitting on a game/company because its the cool thing to do, without even doing their research, and idiots across the internet spreading it without knowing what theyre talking about either
love this attunement
dusk cliff
i think the mtx are literally just itsuno getting forced to put them into the game so he just picked the most nonimpactful shit
like its all one time purchases afaik and its literally just the deluxe edition a la carte
tawny heron
yep
other games just package it into a deluxe edition instead of offering it post release
why is this cheerleaders outfit
a fighter armor
wispy trellis
bc fighters need pep
the mtx thing is just a capcom thing, kinda every capcom game has mtx that dont matter
not specifically itsuno choosing nonimpact stuff
dusk cliff
is that warfarer
tawny heron
ye
brave vapor
where was the outrage over RE4 or DMC5 mtx?
the issue isnt the mtx itself but it's more like the first perception people have on this game
people didnt give a fuck bc resident evil and dmc are already big franchises
the fanbase is already formed and the people who cared about knew about this shit already
but dragons dogma is basically an unknown game that got a lot of hype from coparisons to mh and elden ring
so it attracted all sorts of people that have no idea what it was about, and i feel the mtx wall there tainted the first perception of a lot of people
if anything its just an extremely shitty PR stunt
that more than selling a few bonuses end up losing main game sales
and yeah its all on the publisher
nothing to do with the dev team
the only "advantage" item i can kinda see on the mtx is the camp
and bc its like idk... 1lb less weight?
dusk cliff
you can get a better camp the moment you get to the capital
just take the oxcart to the border town and do the one quest and get the elite kit that weighs less and will prob never break
brave vapor
ok yea i cant beat it yet
prob better to run
i think one of my pawns got the disease too
i found him
Jon Football
brave vapor
mf is blushing
ionic mason
https://i.imgur.com/7H4wsox.png
mystic spearhand has a augment that makes sprinting cost less stamina btw
tawny heron
ionic mason
allright, apperantly the towns that got wiped out from dragonplague will slowly re-populate, including SOME quest npcs (but not all, some still need a manual revive for some)
what is the entire point of this thing now lol
ionic mason
what pawn specializations did you guys get/find yet btw?
rn i got Chirurgeon, Forager, Logistician and Hawker
devout marlin
medicine girl yea
devout marlin
Damn there was a golem and griffon just chilling in a place
tawny heron
The elf language one
tawny heron
Just gift the inn keeper in sacred arbor flowers like 6 or 7 times
dusk cliff
well
i talked to everyone in sacred arbor and they all do nothing
also doing the sphinx quest and the game autosaved as a pawn blew up the vase i was holding so it bricked it
very cool
devout marlin
party of lolis problem
brave vapor
what pawn specializations did you guys get/find yet btw?
I made my pawn be Woodland Wordsmith
brave vapor
Just gift the inn keeper in sacred arbor flowers like 6 or 7 times
You only need 3/4, or at least i needed that much after the archer quest
The trick is to give the flowers
Then wait 1 full day in the bench
And repeat
ionic mason
https://vxtwitter.com/sabato__n/status/1772058854538289170
skill issue
Not using the upwards teleport of spearhand 
brave vapor
tawny heron
mhhh my pawn just oneshot a dragon
tawny heron
plenty of people are bad at games
sorc is incredibly op, but you do gotta abuse levitate a bit
then again im playing archer right now and its
stupid good
the medusa bow is actually silly
wispy trellis
lol
tawny heron
but its also kinda boring to just insta kill any enemy :<
brave vapor
Ig then u just switch pawn vocations and try new shit
Im gonna be honest game is great and all but idk what makes it worth 70 usd
Maybe its just 70usd bc its the new standard and the publisher... we know its greedy
But next to ff7r for example id say dd2 is worth like 50usd
Based on what it has to offer
tawny heron
see, id totally disagree
cause ff7r2 is like 50-60hrs, whereas you can easily spend 100+ hours in dd2
but thats typically not how games are priced so
but ye, 70usd is kinda regular price for any AAA release these days
ionic mason
sorc is incredibly op, but you do gotta abuse levitate a bit
isnt casting while levitate slow as hell
or you mean levitating to a spot where nothing can reach you
btw i have the big problem that i wanna max every voaction
devout marlin
i have only been thief gangsta
tawny heron
isnt casting while levitate slow as hell
its about starting the cast already
while youre levitating
and then as you land you finish with quickcast
so you dodge an attack with levitate, and then mid-air already start casting while you reposition yourself
ionic mason
i have only been thief gangsta
i maxed fighter, spearhand and archer and sitting on thief rn
pawn maxed fighter, warrior and thief and is sitting on mage now
ionic mason
archer is boring cus its so op
you just stand still and press leftclick and smth dies
aka, like bows in dd1
tawny heron
meh not really tho
like, you can play like that, but hten you do like half the damage
definitely gotta run around a lot, find good angles to set up your shots on weakspots
youre also very good at climbing and can drop enemies with that
and then you land, charge up your legendary ability
or your sorc casts augural flare, and you just unload 10 arrows into it and oneshot the boss
devout marlin
meanwhile rogue ability napalms yourself kekw
at least the auto dodge one is op too
ionic mason
play spearhand and decide
"i just instantly blink to the head of the monster and bring it down in 5seconds lol"
srsly, that vocation is stupid with the amount of blinks and dashes you have
ionic mason
ye
devout marlin
yea rogue is just so good that mobs cant literally target you
also the spinny move never gets old
ionic mason
fighter is just, stagger smth and then 1hit kill with a heavy attack, same with warrior
thief just does high dmg in general
archer is afk mode by default
Mage/sorc do 2 hp bars with 1 spell if you use the right ones
mystic spear is just blinking around like crazy
tawny heron
most annoying fight so far was the lich
fuck that fight actually
almost died in it
every other fight is piss tho
ionic mason
lich is always "dodge until they come down and you hit them until the fall down"
btw
tawny heron
fighter is just, stagger smth and then 1hit kill with a heavy attack, same with ...
2 hp bars as sorc?
tawny heron
lich is always "dodge until they come down and you hit them until the fall down"
those are wights
theres an actual lich
wights are a meme
ionic mason
archer kicks 1hit kill skeletons, and a wight on the ground looks hilarious
cus
they fall down
and you just kick them dead
archer gameplay against wights
ionic mason
btw, the affinity system still beeing jank as always is
did a quest for an NPC, 2nd time i talked with him->get the achievment for maxing out affinity
tawny heron
from what i can tell theres 2 unavoidable max affinity characters
ionic mason
and i like how pawns mimic their players
hired a mage, and that guy is just going ham on every single deer/boar and wodden chests in the world, just smashing everything
and at the same time my pawn is a horrible support mage cus he is focusing on doing dmg most of the time
ionic mason
pawns shittalking the playstyle of others when comming back from a player is great
ionic mason
yo wtf
just saw a cart that looked like as if it had cages on it with blue flames, and when i got near it it vanished
tawny heron
phantom ox cart
wispy trellis
my friend told me m mage pawn loves to just run up to goblins, pick em up, then yeet them
i never did that
tawny heron
this medusa bow is
really weird man
also why is there only one of them
i need 3 of her bones
ionic mason
help me decide what i actually want my pawn to be 
tawny heron
okay im worried
the drake just picked up my pawn
had burning red eyes and said "i am oyur master" and then mind controlled my pawn
devout marlin
time for some brine action
ionic mason
time to send the entire group swiming
THIS IS SUCH A GOOD MECHANIC THAT MAKES THE GAME BETTER AND MORE IMMERSIVE/FUN/WHATEVER
ionic mason
i also love that everyone gives their pawn red eyes anyway cus they are edgy 14y olds
so you stand there for ages and wait for idle animations
wispy trellis
couldnt u just talk to them and test pawn commands to find out as well
dusk cliff
do they always disobey
wispy trellis
not sure the %, but they absolutely will disobey eventually
ionic mason
do they always disobey
nope
cus its a "gets worse over time" thing
aka you get a infected one
and the things get worse and more obvious over a couple ingame days
and constantly swap bettwen pawns if you rest in a camp
dusk cliff
not sure the %, but they absolutely will disobey eventually
yeah dont think i want to sit there spamming a command on the chance it might disobey eventually
bring back the lone wolf augment and let me just rock me and my main pawn and we can call it a day, wheres assassin at lol