#Farfa - Log Review

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undone sparrowBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

robust fractal
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This is so cursed please help

rapid estuary
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honestly there's not much here except bad rng and getting gapped by externals, you played fine

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you know your kill time so you could've synced deathmark/vanish harder here, wouldn't have lost a cast

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you also could've held your second shiv for deathmark more

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like here your vanish is just not even the same universe as your deathmark

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that's no good

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and it just gets worse and worse

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so that's the big rotational thing I see

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but that's really about it

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you didn't overcap cp, you didn't overcap energy

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just not much you can do when you don't have a windfury and end up only having a 40% crit on mut and 30% crit on envenom

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unlucky, next week

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yeh that's really about all there is, minor deathmark issues, and just get more juice

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hope it helps @robust fractal

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happy holidays

robust fractal
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First of all wow thank you so fucking much, this was incredibly helpful, appreciate the time.

Everything you said seems like nothing omega major but I got a grey log for it??? That's wild, I thought I'd maybe like blue in my gear or something.

I think I might fundamentally misunderstand deathmark, shiv and vanish as CDs.

Is vanish garrote used after deathmark is applied?

Do I always make sure to double shiv deathmark? Why? Is it because it also does nature damage somehow?

rapid estuary
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yeah logs are pretty volatile atm especially in some of the mythic bosses

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there's a lot of pi's and shit flying around on sin rogues

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basically the top 100 all have PI's to some extent

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it's a pretty bleak hellscape

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but that's kinda how it be

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you're competing with people who are getting windfury, getting pi, who have better rng than you

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some of these logs you're just missing like 200 autos and they're getting 20% more envenoms than you

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you can't compete with that even with perfect play

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rotationally I can't find that many mistakes

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so it's not like you're playing bad

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it's just parses in this case aren't your friend if you happen to have an unlucky kill or an off-night

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anyway, regarding deathmark

robust fractal
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Dumb question, why does windfury give more envenom?

rapid estuary
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windfury gives more autos, gives more dashing procs, gives more energy, gives more mut, gives more envenom

robust fractal
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Ah right sure

rapid estuary
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I was comparing to a couple of logs and you're down like 400 energy just from dashing alone

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with some average crit rate that's like 10 envenoms right there

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deathmark duplicates poisons, so shiv actually just gets to hit twice as many poisons

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lot of people think of shiv as an envenom buff

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and while it does do that, it's better to think of it as an uptime debuff

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the more shiv uptime you get, the better

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and when shiv can buff twice as many poisons

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that's good shit

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vanish garrote + deathmark is a bit of a weird one, because on the one hand the sims syncs them, but not really

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so the sim currently does the whole opener, refreshes the vanish during deathmark when the first gets into pandemic

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and then it holds that timing forever

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so vanish will always come in like 5-10 seconds into deathmark

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in reality when someone is playing on a fight, it's probably better for them to deathmark + vanish together

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like deathmark -> vanish gar -> shiv -> rotation

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or vanish gar -> deathmark

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whatever

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the order isn't really the important thing here

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but duplicating the empowered garrote is something the sim agrees with

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it just doesn't agree with hard-syncing them together like that

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because it's a dumb robot

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and it misses like 0.15 casts of deathmark on average over 15000 fights

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and says it's not worth

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because it's a fucking scumbag

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but the rule still stands that duplicating empowered garrote is something you should aim for

robust fractal
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So is my sin sim probably lower than it should be? Because I got super frustrated by this log and was like fuck it I'll just play sub since it Sims like 3k above my sin

rapid estuary
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especially when you know you won't miss a cast of either cooldown from doing it

rapid estuary
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it just optimizes for the average of 15,000 fights

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rather than 1

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you're a human who knows terros dies between 6:35 and 6:45

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a sim has variance in order to combat weird timing issues that happen when you get so specific

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so for the sim

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it doesn't think vanish gar deathmark is worth it

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because you have to hold deathmark for like 10 seconds

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and it needs those 10 seconds at the end of the fight on some of its iterations

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you're capable of thinking past a statistical average

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so you should hold for that timing

robust fractal
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Is my spec ok? The guy in my guild you see for that log was running exsanguinate bleed with less execute points. I don't know if that's a real build now but he died before even getting the final exsang in and still best my grey

rapid estuary
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yeah your builds fine

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it's just a poison dtb

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you can test out whether a bleed dtb or a bleed kb build does better for you

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but there's basically like 45 different builds

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and they all perform about the same

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there's nothing "wrong" with your build

robust fractal
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The kingsbane bleed build isn't harder to play really right, just the opener?

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And I suppose making sure to perfect exsanguinate windows

rapid estuary
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yeah pretty much

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it's the same build except you get 2 more buttons

robust fractal
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Thanks a lot for this man I really appreciate it

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I'm still genuinely shocked and a bit disheartened I didn't do super bad plays and got a grey

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Guess I'll work on that vanish deathmark window

rapid estuary
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happens

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boss died

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that's all that matters

robust fractal
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Question, whats the cd rotation 2min into fight and deathmark is coming up with kingsbane?

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Mark vanish garrote kB shiv?

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Or kB shiv mark vanish garrote?

rapid estuary
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you always deathmark before kb

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kb is shorter than deathmark

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and you want to get kb into deathmark

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the rest is whatever

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you can shiv deathmark kb

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deathmark shiv kb

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deathmark kb shiv