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fallen yew
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so what rogue spec should we be playing

sour patrol
elder canyon
sour patrol
deep hinge
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very dapper looking!

tribal cargo
worthy hill
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there was a link here posted to a google doc that listed the ilvl of all item drops in midnight and what tier they were

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does anyone have it

raw hill
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should i be doing my own keys or just joining others for the +6 and above?

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cuz yesterday when i queued for my +5 literally nobody joined for 30mins

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getting accepted to groups seemed way quicker

spare vine
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How’d you queue a +5 yesterday

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But I’d say generally doing your own key is faster unless you outgear the level you’re applying to

raw hill
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my key went from +2 to +5

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but then when i tried upping my key to higher, there were 0 applicants at all

rustic tartan
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Where EU Servers??????

static epoch
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six feet under atm

ember nest
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send power

torpid harness
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I'm sitting here talking on wow forums "roleplaying" with a random night elf that we're drinking tea together while listening to the aurora song, this is a vibe man, maybe it's not about how long we waited for the servers, but the friends we made along the way

ember nest
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AAAAaaaAaAAaaaAAA

torpid harness
viral whale
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Anyone have any good rogue PvP video recommendations? Specifically older stuff from around BC era? Found out Warcraft movies was abandoned and YouTube sucks for finding old videos

rustic tartan
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But they're not.

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Rip

zealous halo
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they are bro dw about it

frosty grail
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maybe they shadow banned all rogue players

torpid harness
frosty grail
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login servers up, realms not yet

tribal cargo
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firs time i ever got kicked out a +2 for beign a "low tier spec"

torpid harness
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I'll refrain from commenting further but that's just sad

slim zenith
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i only have 1 spark of radiance, how do i get the other 3? theres a catchup mechanic right?

prisma talon
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Wait weren't we supposed to get a catalyst charge with AOTC crown of cosmos ?

Edit : Nevermind it's march on quel danas aotc

drowsy sequoia
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if i have a veteran tier piece. is there a way to upgrade it to champion?

craggy ridge
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was able to log in now

bright otter
grand lily
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hey guys quick question about 4set achiev. My rogue's been unlucky with tierset but I just got 4set with my mage. Can I drop catalysts with rogue? and if so is there a cap for it?

somber idol
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No, its per character

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Not account wide

grand lily
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I see

prime viper
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lmao avoidance AND socket on wrist

short pecan
slim zenith
short pecan
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yeah 1s work as well

short pecan
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you'll have to do it anyway

thorn lynx
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When/how should i use my catalyst?

remote verge
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hows people's experience getting invited to 8+ keys as rogue?

ruby linden
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It’s been fine for me, I was blind applying

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It does help to have 7/8s done but I was rawdogging applications

trail stream
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!up

sour patrol
half echo
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why does addons occasionally disappear from my installed addon list in curseforge?:s

analog ridge
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Anyone know how to remove all this clutter from Platynator?

obtuse adder
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So I noticed this morning when I started playing my combo points are missing under my portrait. I haven’t found a way to make them reappear anyone else have this issue? I’m using standard blizz ui

bright otter
upper tusk
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so mythic crest drop from m7 or m9? i am looking at two diff charts and they giving conflicting info

mellow pilot
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9

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I believe fuu updated it yesterday

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!up

shy ocean
frigid plume
harsh yew
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anyone know if the recrafting bug that eats your crests is gone?

stone mural
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Which keys looking hardest/easiest so far?

hearty fog
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a monkey with 3 braincells can do a 10

noble kestrel
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I can confirm because I'm that

stone mural
hearty fog
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we timed a +11 with one guy dc'd for 70% of the key

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and 2 ppl on scuffed alts

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one persons first key of the season

noble kestrel
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lmao, ncie

hearty fog
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2 wipes

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1 boss reset

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and timed with 2 mins to spare

noble kestrel
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It's very comfy

hearty fog
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i try and not be omega toxic but if you can't time a 10, you need to seriously consider what you do in life

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+10 boosts are going to be sold for 200k by the end of the week

noble kestrel
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It's very approachable this season

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Which is nice, hopefully get more people into M+

hearty fog
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yeah

analog ridge
hearty fog
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google jundies playnator

sour patrol
# hearty fog and timed with 2 mins to spare

Had a large wipe before first boss in Seat when the tank pulled a bit too much and healer couldn't keep up. We regroup and kill first boss. We're on our way to the next area and the other Rogue questions if we have the time.
Finish key, 11 minutes remaining.

noble kestrel
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I think we full wiped 3 times ons eat 10 and still almost +2'd it

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it's very funny

hearty fog
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yeah 10s feel like +4 or +5s

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they fucked up with the scaling i think

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when they were going to make it so you need +15 for vault

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or something like that

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and then backtracked on that

noble kestrel
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Maybe yeah or they just want it to be chill

hearty fog
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but then forgot to also make 10s hard again

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idk there' s chill and absolutely brain dead w1

noble kestrel
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Maybe playing it safe with all the changes

plush dune
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i swear 10s were harder on beta with myth gear than they are now with normal/heroic

noble kestrel
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probably were

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Maybe Lindormi's Guidance isn't working right

river storm
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Hey guys, the detail isn't working properly, does anyone know of another similar add-on?

analog ridge
hearty fog
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no wukkas

sour patrol
noble kestrel
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oh no

woeful geyser
noble kestrel
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Xanas is pretty chill

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Very short, nothing really dangerous

rotund patrol
steep dock
ruby linden
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Yeahhhh. I’m scared to recraft until lizard addresses it

torpid harness
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Guess not bad for day 1, only one hero item tho, unlucky

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Gotta take a nap now before raids tonight

next axle
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anyone else having bnet issues?, got kicked now cannot connect dead

tiny bison
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is it possibel to put a gem slot (great vault weely loot) on the crafted bracers when they have a unique embellishmend ?

frigid isle
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is there a difference in boss encounters between m0 and m10 or they have exactly the same abilities and the tax is the same?

woeful geyser
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m+ is just added dmg

sour patrol
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Actual mechanics no, but the various affixes obviously change things ever so slightly

woeful geyser
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ye

ember nest
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this week is xalatath balss

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so it easy

trail stream
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!up

rich meadow
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Saw that there was more +10 keys completed in a day versus the entire week of TWW season 1 😂

mellow pilot
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Tww s1 was actually hard

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Harder than any other season in recent expansions

raw hill
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for some reason people can do 10 easily but not 11 tho

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i guess to be fair its like a 20% diff in mob hp and dmg tho

novel pewter
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I think there's another affix added at 11.

raw hill
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oh

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yea the one where mobs have more hp and stuff right

novel pewter
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No. NVM. 10 adds an affix and so does 12.

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But none on 11.

raw hill
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what

novel pewter
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11 shouldn't be much harder than 10.

But maybe the scaling isn't linear.

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Idk. 11s seemed not bad to me.

Only run I had that felt bad was Triumvirate. But that's Triumvirate.

raw hill
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idk if im just unlucky or what lol

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everytime i do +11 its a disaster

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but +9 and +10 is fine

novel pewter
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🤷

oblique cedar
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Guild leader said run dbm, I've always ran bigwigs. Do they still communicate fine? Or did blizzard break that?

spark raptor
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Just say fuck it and dont run dbm lol
what are they gonna do, ask to see your system files?

oblique cedar
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I didnt know if it flagged something. But that will probably be the play lol.

novel pewter
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There are some raid tools that let raid leader you know if you've got an addon installed.

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Idk. Just don't fuck up mechanics should be fine.

oblique cedar
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True true.

digital sky
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How much crests do you get from a 10 key?

noble kestrel
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12

raw hill
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do we just send our hero crests on whatever hero gear we can now?

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idk what else to do with them since we're not recrafting with them

novel pewter
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Yes. Or save for when you get a mythic piece and upgrade that to 6 so that you get free mythic upgrades.

trail stream
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man why cant i mark my tank

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says you cant do that right now

vernal timber
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sometimes when i have a raid group listed up and i pick up someone it delists itself, why is that sitmadge

rich meadow
atomic rose
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Anyone has an idea of when the voidcore will unlock?

noble kestrel
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With .5 I imagine

craggy ridge
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where you able to loot gilded crests from delves last week or is this the first week?

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ah, rank 4 is needed..

trail stream
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!up

novel cipher
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My guild leader would need to pry bw from my cold dead hands

blazing sable
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if i got 4p on my alt, will cata charges drop from m+ on my main

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do u guys maybek now.

fringe umbra
daring sundial
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This MF has 4pc already madge

rare solar
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just had to get 1pc from raid and 1 from vault

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then you're 4p

daring sundial
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No vault tier for me

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No raid loot either. I'm still 1/4

tight edge
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i lucked out on 2 lfr pieces last week

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nothing in vault tho

bleak elm
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Is it just me or is rogue kinda weak across the board so far?
Feels like any other class just outshines us by quite a bit LULW

mellow pilot
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Skill issue

novel cipher
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That's because any other class outshines us

static epoch
novel cipher
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We are the best at putting atrophic poison on targets still though

static epoch
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stuff's not unplayably bad but the combination of tuning and raid boss design really fuck things up

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like vanguard is just tailor-made for MM atm

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crown is anti-outlaw and I think that's not even an exaggeration

bleak elm
novel pewter
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I mean devo aura goes hard.

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They stack though I suppose.

upper barn
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which gear piece should i craft when i main outlaw but switch specs sometimes?

mellow pilot
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But outlaw uses a onehanded and the other two specs cang

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!up

upper barn
mellow pilot
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I mean yeah but it's a shitty craft for outlaw

upper barn
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guess i'll just craft the boots or the ring then according to the guide, should work fine for the other specs too

sour patrol
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Sin & Sub are the only specs out of all the classes that use exclusively Agi daggers

digital sky
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!fuu

ionic forumBOT
raw hill
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did they undertune every mythic?

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they feel so easy

hearty fog
raw hill
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maybe they want them to be more welcoming to worse players lol

magic bane
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anyone know if 4p achievment gives you random catalysts only on that char or all of them

tribal cargo
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so ugh. hows rogue looking?

hot heath
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first time liquid not using a rogue in a while...sad for exile

mellow pilot
daring sundial
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fucking finally

worthy fable
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5 stack MM hunters, 3 stack MW monks

calm jasper
static epoch
zealous berry
# tribal cargo so ugh. hows rogue looking?

we have no utility now that blind is no longer aoe, all specs are struggling in raid, tier sets for sin and outlaw are meh, sub got neutered and is now a 2 button spec, pretty bad season for us and will prob stay that way until blizzard hires a rogue developer to actually work on the class instead of the DH intern

ember nest
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yea took a vacation and time travelled 17 years to the past

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now it is a pvp spec again

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it is very good there at least

ruby linden
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I tried sub with no background in pvp or sub and it felt good

noble kestrel
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Sub is good, it feels good to play

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It isn't a 2 button spec, either. Ignore that, imo.

ruby linden
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I’m not a fan of it

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I don’t like sub

inland gale
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No one dooms more than a class discord

ruby linden
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Our discord is still open garf_sit it’s not too bad

noble kestrel
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The only thing I will doom about is the lack of poison toggle. Rogue is absolutely fine this season.

ruby linden
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Give me aoe blind and one more aura buff and I’ll stop bitching for 2 weeks KEKW

noble kestrel
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Well, AoE blind is coming in .5

ruby linden
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I’ll give one credit to sub, the skill sounds are nice

ember nest
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yea dont worry not being in some bosses is not the end of the world

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in contrary to popular belief

noble kestrel
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That also only applies if you are raiding at that level which is a minority.

static epoch
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like what was the driving force behind that

craggy ridge
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what role do you assign Valeera in delves? been using healer which works good but not sure if its the best

static epoch
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but tbh healer Valeera does good damage anyway

noble kestrel
craggy ridge
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ok yea, been going real smooth as healer. Good to know I wasnt missing out

hearty fog
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my latest shit hot take is that I'm hoping to see 0 rogues in the RWF

ember nest
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oh we have been there already i just have 0 hope of more fast bufs

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same tbh

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we bring nothing

hearty fog
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so that blizzard perhaps realises how dire of a position we are in

ember nest
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if you need more healing you just get one of the better healers

static epoch
hearty fog
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my 2nd shit hot take is that i also hope whatever niche MM has gets gutted

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and they also get the zul treatment

ember nest
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instead of losing like 30-70k dps for a 3.6% dr

hearty fog
static epoch
ember nest
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all the mobs having true sight

hearty fog
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when every single important mob has true sight

static epoch
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(even though they're the ones who made it that way)

ember nest
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oh and btw they see you further if you are in stealth

bright otter
ember nest
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so you actively grief your group

hearty fog
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actually in the other zul'aman dungeon

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the one not in the rotation

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you can skip the entire last corridor with a DH/evoker and rogue

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since none of those mobs have true sight

static epoch
hearty fog
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so maybe shroud is viable

ember nest
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what i find fun is even with subs unnerfed 15% more aoe

static epoch
ember nest
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we would still be dog in vanguard

hearty fog
static epoch
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Pit's final tunnel has 0 truesight mobs, even the miniboss
but the wall at the end doesn't open up unless you kill the miniboss anyway

hearty fog
noble kestrel
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Just let the rogue take it all and die. Bam, extremely useful

ember nest
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ahaha

noble kestrel
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You can cheese who gets the debuff though, which is funny. Well, 'cheese'

static epoch
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but yeah vanguard manages to be terrible for all rogues because none of them are tuned to be good at non-maxed cleave
ngl I have no idea why BF doesn't scale damage according to number of targets, like just make it cleave 400% damage spread evenly between all (but not above 100% per target), or 700% with talents, that's how most AoE abilities even work at target cap

noble kestrel
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On heroic anyway

ember nest
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bf used to be better the less targets they had called precise cuts

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which got nerfed around 3 to 4 times

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and idk if it even exists anymore

quasi oasis
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nope, they got rid of it

static epoch
hearty fog
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can't have rogue having a niche

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especially outlaw

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spec is banned from being anywhere close to meta

somber idol
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!up

static epoch
hearty fog
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i had a small tiny thought that maybe outlaw would see play this raid because of how minimal downtime seems to be

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but apparently it's just no rogue is seeing play

tribal cargo
shy ocean
static epoch
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yeah perma tricks on her and you can do t11s without issues

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she legit doesn't die unless you chainpull like ten packs in a row

ruby linden
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She pulls half the room on her own accord anyway

shy ocean
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she does the chain pulling for me too. Hate how she sometimes starts running away while mobs are hitting her (and straight into another pack)

static epoch
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yeah for no identifiable reason too

ebon mulch
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She gettin uppity sometimes yeah

short pecan
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anyone knows whats the best delve difficutly to spam

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to get to rank 4

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for those mythic crests

rare solar
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Highest tier gives the most exp per run

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But it depends on how quickly you can do which tiet

short pecan
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fair enough

static epoch
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but...slower, in an absolute sense (though not in a time-spent-doing-this sense)

polar charm
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Morning people

gentle frigate
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no rogues rwf

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its so over

static epoch
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they had one on Vora

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and that's it

short pecan
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noted ty

gentle frigate
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anyone else with elvui not having their cooldowns show up on their action bar

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like it does in CDM but not the bar

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I might just switch to the base UI at this point lmao

tulip needle
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anyone else that suffer alot of stutter this season, been on alot of youtube videos etc

quiet pumice
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Many people have 4set, but I struggle to understand how to get it so fast. I only have one catalyst charge. Is it just through raids?

fringe umbra
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You get 1 catalyst for free, one after hitting 2k m+ score (or 1.6k pvp)

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And then a lot of people got 1 tier piece in vault

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And with that you only need 1 tier piece from raid, and it can be any difficulty now since after getting 4p you unlock catalyst charges dropping from m+/raids

quiet pumice
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Ah makes sense then

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I've yet to full decidate my time to M+, so I should have a second one soonish, then some LFR and we hope for the best

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As for the vault, I'm in contact with the guinness book of world records to apply for the worst vault in history.

sour patrol
quiet pumice
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But that means next week is going to be great!

light canyon
sour patrol
# light canyon You've got a nice head on those shoulders <:garf:1320173032743899157>

I work 10hour days during the week, and raid for 3 hours Tues & Thurs, with a 1.5 hour gap on those two days between when I get home from work and when raid starts.
90% of my non-raiding playtime occurs on the weekend.
Most of my guild has plenty of free time during the week to do keys and shit with each other.
It's the Solo Q life for me, lads

light canyon
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Fair, but I was more just making a bad pun about the helmet

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Hence a nice head

iron moth
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Wait. it wasnt a mount and blade ref?

sour patrol
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My "end of season" recaps only include guildies because I ran maybe 2 or 3 keys with them, while every other player I probably never see again. garfJail

sullen trail
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is there a way to make raidbots require a certain minimum amount of haste? my ping is too high for 18% exactly i think

iron moth
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you want to adjust for latency?

sullen trail
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pretty much

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i just want a little extra haste

iron moth
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you need to do the math yourself in that scenario

sullen trail
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over the breakpoint

iron moth
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Unfortunately

sullen trail
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sadge

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i guess its basically like take what it says and replace the lowest amount of non-haste possible

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probably

storm wave
mellow pilot
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Most likely yeah

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Maybe tomorrow patch notes

strong spire
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after unlocking Catalyst Unbound by having 4 set piece is current limit for only 2 additional ones?

mellow pilot
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I don't see that information anywhere

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And I've been trying to keep track of the wowhead posts

strong spire
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got 2 from hc raid, none on pvp and none on 11+ delves

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few people also got only 2

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wanted to use them on pvp gear but not sure if i should keep it for better

mellow pilot
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Be the pioneer, spam content in search of the third charge

strong spire
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i wish i had more time to do it

mellow pilot
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I feel you homie

iron moth
prime heart
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How does one sim what stats to focus or are needed. Stat weight sim?

mellow pilot
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With enough aura buffs we'll reach top 5

mellow pilot
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You top gear

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And select the gear you have

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And the bot will tell you

prime heart
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Thanks

mellow pilot
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Statweights is a thing of the past

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Even raidbots tells you not to use it

prime heart
gentle barn
kindred verge
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anyone know if the recraft bug still exists or if it's been patched?

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i kinda don't want to recraft my dagger to myth if i risk just losing the crests

strong spire
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while watching someone stream i saw he had indicators before encounter with missing flasks/potions/food/poisons, does anyone know what addon it is?

novel pewter
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Clickable raid buffs

strong spire
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thanks

novel cipher
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It is currently bugged and not showing haste (and potentially other?) flasks as active but it'll do flask, food, oils, and vantus

sour patrol
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I still haven't crafted my second embellishment; can I just use Hero crests or what SCgetoutofmyhead

unkempt bane
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what’s the best m+ rogue spec for an idiot?

light canyon
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Ret paladin

prime heart
azure mortar
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weapon craft bug fixed?

mellow pilot
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You just swap whatever items the sim tells you to

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The only time you'll be blindly stacking a stat is if you're playing sub, aiming for 18% haste

prime heart
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bet

sinful citrus
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does anyone know how often the catalyst drops if you have 4 set? like is it a frequent drop like weely or something like that?

novel cipher
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It has no CD afaik

novel pewter
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Seems to be about 10% of eligible events, give or take.

Mileage varies. Some guildies have gotten 5 this week. Some have one in 20 M+

novel cipher
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So they just build up

novel pewter
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No CD, yeah.

sinful citrus
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they got 5 catalyst???

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20 is insane too

novel cipher
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But as flay said it's super duper inconsistent

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Well what flayr said is 1 charge from 20 m+

sinful citrus
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ohhhh

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my bad haha

novel pewter
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Yeah

novel cipher
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Some people are just green Jesus' chosen

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prayge ilysm daddy thrall pls bless me with tier next week so I'm not at 1/4 pieces ty

sinful citrus
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5 is nutty though lol

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i only have champ pieces but i do have enough to get 4 set so i wasnt sure if i should just send it on the champ pieces

novel pewter
novel cipher
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After loot being so restrictive having something that's genuinely QOL feels like a handout

novel pewter
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Imo tier should be a system similar to crests.

Every boss drops X tokens, you combine 3-4 bosses worth of tokens to buy a piece.

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Although infinite catalysts is giga nice.

shell hill
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They drop like candy

sinful citrus
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I like candy

steep iron
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Is there a way to set up a focus kick macro that is conditrional to having a focus?

i.e. one keybind that kicks my target, or kicks my focus if I have one?

novel pewter
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Even if you're unlucky it's easily farmable to get yourself a token

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Should you need one.

sinful citrus
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yes i was able to get the 2k m+ one

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this is my first time playing in a long time so just not sure the best use of the catalyst, seems like the play is to just send it

plush dune
shell hill
plush dune
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like way too strong mints

novel pewter
sinful citrus
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this does seem like a nice QOL that they drop from other content, even if its a rng roll of how many you get lol

novel pewter
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Only way to troll with em this xpac is to send em before you get drops and then end up getting a drop you cata'd

sinful citrus
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makse sense

novel cipher
sinful citrus
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so raid first then use cata

novel pewter
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Use cata as soon as you have enough cata's to guarantee 4 set

sinful citrus
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noted

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thank you @novel pewter super super helpful

novel pewter
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Can use one this week to guarantee 2 PC, if you have a single tier piece.

steep dock
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I have 3 charges now,after getting 4set yday

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oh got that 2k rating,forgot

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2 still

steep iron
shell hill
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erm

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/cast [@focus] [] kick

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add a space maybe

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like that

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it should work though I think

steep iron
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Maybe @target in the 2nd bracket?

With the space it just kicks back no target

novel cipher
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/cast [@focus,exists]kick; kick is what I'd suggest

steep iron
shell hill
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or that I guess

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typing macros from my phone not ideal KEKL

steep iron
surreal wigeon
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trying to get my own +2 key up through pugging
noone signs up

daring sundial
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I don't actually know how M+ works

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Classic andy

surreal wigeon
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pugging keys is fucking awful

hexed zinc
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If you don't mind relying completely on blizzard's targeting algo

/cleartarget
/targetenemy

always targets a casting enemy first

I use the following for focus kicks (I have a few other macros when precision is required)

/cast [@focus,exists,nodead,harm] Kick
/stopmacro [@focus,exists,nodead,harm]
/focus target
/cleartarget
/targetenemy

/cast Kick
/target focus
/clearfocus
/startattack

burnt fossil
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Yo is recrafting still borked?

mellow pilot
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(maybe you can check, maybe, but you have to delist your key and apply to another)

torpid harness
sour patrol
surreal wigeon
#

congratulations ur a masochist

sour patrol
#

I work long hours and most of my free time is on the weekend, when all my friends and guildmates are doing irl stuff

#

Hoping to hit 3k this season, never been able to before

noble kestrel
#

I believe in you, you'll get it done

shadow leaf
#

will rouge get buffed or nah?

past mango
#

Hey guys, what would be the "best" spec for delve? Currently just going through the tiers with valeera as healer, just wondering if anyone here is farming t11 with rogue?

craggy ridge
#

are there any tier tokens for hitting certain m+ score/achive?

shadow leaf
#

but only 1

craggy ridge
#

great, then with catalyst and that ill get 4 set 😄

daring sundial
#

If I don't have M+ rating it looks like it'll be difficult to get into a group. Think linking the let me solo him achievement to prove I'm not a moron would work? Lol

#

I'd rather not try to find low level keys for hours if nobody is running them

daring sundial
#

And I don't think that is an accurate reflection

late remnant
#

Are we getting another catalyst next week?

wild plaza
late remnant
#

been real unlucky with raid drops 0 pieces so far

#

got a piece in vault so it should be 4 set next week then

vernal timber
#

i got 0 from raid and no tier on vault

late remnant
#

oof that sucks even more

#

you just need 1 from vault or raid thats it

vernal timber
#

if I dont get a tier next week i'll be cooked

wild plaza
#

Remember that you get 1 catalyst from 2k rio if i remember it right

mellow pilot
#

Yes

#

Or 1.6pvp

crimson sapphire
#

Hey guys do we get another charge of part catalyst next week ? I have one part from raid and the catalyslm charge from 2K m+ idk if i can already get the 2 part now

deft gulch
#

yes we should be getting a catalyst on reset

faint river
#

are crafted darkmoon decks counted as embelishments

fringe umbra
#

Yes

leaden parcel
#

What adds are excluded from logs on Crown of the Cosmos? Is it just the small adds during phase one?

blazing plume
#

can you q dungeons while inside delve

novel pewter
#

I don't think so. Might have changed tho.

blazing plume
#

im in q and i want to do a delve quest for omega xp

#

ah

#

unlucky

sour patrol
#

It's an instance

blazing plume
#

ye but i thought that maybe they let us do it for once sadge

plush dune
#

you can queue before entering and you'll stay in queue, its just paused

#

but even time while paused seems to push you towards the front of the queue for when you leave

daring sundial
novel pewter
#

Just spam group join requests. You'll get something eventually.

noble kestrel
#

Just gotta keep on keepin' on

novel pewter
#

It'll be a slog. Missed the window to get ahead. But it's either that or make some friends.

#

But once you get over the hump it gets better. We all been there.

daring sundial
novel pewter
daring sundial
short pecan
#

how many crests does a m9 or m10 giv e?

shell hill
#

!up

shell hill
#

Can see it there

short pecan
#

oh shit

#

thanks

#

crazy tech with the command

shadow wind
#

Tricks of the Trade not working on valeera anymore?

sour panther
#

should i use sparks on a wrist

mellow pilot
#

Dagger wrist is a good choice

sour panther
#

thanks

blazing sable
#

guys is the re-craft bug fixed? the one where we might lose some crests if we send a re-craft.

craggy ridge
#

just hit 2k m+ rating but I thought I would get another catalyst charge?

upper tusk
#

any news on if recrafting bug has been fixed?

craggy ridge
#

🥲

fringe umbra
#

(unless you already got it from pvp last week)

torpid harness
#

Huh

craggy ridge
fringe umbra
#

Well you get 1 charge for getting 2k

torpid harness
#

I thought I only had one but I'm 2k+

fringe umbra
#

Its just an item in your bag

torpid harness
#

I guess I should check again lmao

#

Can confirm, it's called dawnlight flux but that's what charges the catalyst thing

craggy ridge
#

there we are

#

❤️

torpid harness
#

I didn't even realise I had it, or I did but disregarded after making my 2p since I don't have appropriate hero item yet, and might wanna wait to see if raid gets me any

craggy ridge
#

they seem to drop like flies once u get 4 set

torpid harness
#

We had a few drop but never lucky lmao

craggy ridge
#

no, the catalyst charges

torpid harness
#

Oh

craggy ridge
#

my friend rushed 4 set, he has like 3 extra in his inventory now

torpid harness
#

I guess that's good then cause my helm is champ

craggy ridge
#

im converting 2 champ pieces asap, ill get more charges this week to convert new hero pieces once im lucky in raid/m+

torpid harness
#

I like that system tbh cause like if I just get one lucky set piece in raid I got 4p then

#

And then I can just upgrade better items with the catalysts I'll get

craggy ridge
#

aye, big improvment

#

just got this once i got 4 set

still willow
#

Hey guys is there a spec is a way over the two other for pre content or that all close the same ?

#

Pve content I mean sorry for misspelling

orchid sand
#

someone know how to track the buff from the guidon trinket ?

fervent ibex
balmy lark
remote verge
twilit sequoia
#

hello beautiful people

sour patrol
fervent ibex
#

Only thing I can think of is if that bit of haste pushes you over the threshold for another global in dance? Assuming I’m thinking of the right trinket

#

Or does it make sec techs less tight or something

remote verge
# fervent ibex Why though

just to make sure you maximize the dance time if you are chaining it during blades. I don't think you need to track it at all, but that is why you would

balmy lark
#

@tough swallow wowhead guide is updated for craft ? Thx bro

humble parcel
#

anyone knows iff the next catalyst will be next week or in 2 weeks?

meager totem
#

next week

hazy trail
#

!wa

ionic forumBOT
hearty fog
spark raptor
faint saffron
#

Is their a bug for M chimaerus?

plush dune
#

probably a few even

rocky island
#

Is there any reasonable way to get a hero piece for catalyst other than M+ once heroid raids are down?

sour dock
#

Soo raid dead?

craggy ridge
remote verge
ruby linden
#

Bountiful delves, nemesis item, that dogshit pvp questline for that hero neck piece

fresh portal
#

no rogues in the mythic raid comps its so sad

strong spire
#

any addon recommendation to add healthbar in center of screen? or replace Personal Resource Display? currently i have something like this and it would be perfect to just move healthbar above combopoints

ruby linden
#

I use sensei

strong spire
#

oh yea that nice thanks

static parcel
#

Is there anything we can pickpocket in midnight? Every NPCs seems so poor they don't even have pockets to pickpocket

upper barn
#

economy is rough since the void invaded

naive plank
#

Is there a consensus on whether I should upgrade my crafted weapon to 272 with hero crests? Or should I lvl my hero gear (only have 3 pieces)

noble kestrel
#

You won't get the Hero crests back, so spending them on a weapon craft isn't the best use. It'd be better to wait until you can recraft it with Myth crests and take it to 285.

naive plank
#

Ahhh that makes sense

noble kestrel
#

Since you'd ultimately be recrafting to Myth eventually, most likely, and have spent 80 that'll just be wasted for a shorter term upgrade.

naive plank
#

True true

#

So I guess lvl my hero gear for now

proud raft
#

is the recraft bug gone where some people lost the myth crests when recrafting?

ruby linden
proud raft
#

i have already lost 30 uncapped mythic crests from my first ?? kill that i couldnt loot, i think ill wait

ruby linden
#

that’s pain

naive plank
#

When can you turn champ>hero crests? 259?

compact silo
#

Whats the best spec for pushing high keys atm?

mellow pilot
#

We'll know once people can't use X or Y spec because it lacks the DMG in the 15/16+ range probably

#

Unless you're talking your weekly 10s

ruby linden
#

Max lvl of champ is 263

compact silo
mellow pilot
#

Then you'll probably have to wait until pushing teams give feedback

upbeat mauve
#

Is there any eta for wowanalyzer assassination support?

shell hill
#

Someone in assa yesterday said they would try and work on it in their spare time

#

But who knows if that’s gonna pan out

craggy ridge
#

safe to run t11 delve with Trovehunter's Bounty - and no coffer key? meaning can I still loot the heroic item or do I need a key?

shell hill
#

I believe you need a key

craggy ridge
#

shoot, I used up all keys and forgot the bounty map item... back to farming coffer keys

ruby linden
#

Heads up rare creatures give like 50

#

Maxed out my coffer keys within like 15 min

scenic flume
#

for champion gear its better to just upgrade 1 item or split?

craggy ridge
#

was capped on shards so i yolo'd it. Was able to loot the heroic item without any key

craggy ridge
ember nest
#

if you can spam m+ 10

craggy ridge
#

prio weapon, chest/legs etc

ember nest
#

you can just send any champ crest

#

you will get 266 anyway

scenic flume
#

ppl not taking me

ruby linden
#

Do your 7s and earn your way into 8s if you’re able to

#

Wouldn’t upgrade them but it’ll get you halfway there

scenic flume
#

yea i did 8, but 9 no1 take me, i now spending champ crest

#

im 253 now

river tendon
#

guys, how do i do this?

#showtooltip
/use [mod:shift,@mouseover, nodead][] Holy Light
/use [nomod, @mouseover, nodead][] Flash of Light

if i remove the [] i can use mouseover. but it does not auto heal myself without target. or should i simply target myself if i need?

#

if i add [] my mouseover doesnt work.

ruby linden
kindred verge
#

anyone know if the recrafting bug still exists (the one that swallows myth crests if you go from non crest craft to crest craft)

kindred verge
#

;__;

ruby linden
#

You can try if you’re brave :P

kindred verge
#

have we heard if they refund the crests if people get screwed over by this?

#

if so i will just gamba it

ruby linden
#

No clue since they didn’t actually speak about it it

#

There’s a wowhead article so maybe they’ll eventually read it

fringe umbra
#

Idk its also insanely rare

ruby linden
#

If it was replicable we’d know if it’s worth doing or not

kindred verge
#

with my luck it will happen twice in a row i guarrantee it

ruby linden
#

I’m doing my second recraft later today so we’ll see

fringe umbra
#

And theyll for sure refund it through tickets if it happens, my friend forgot to loot ?? but got the crests later on anyway

fringe umbra
#

HAvent seen any posts here, or heard from anybody in any of the 3-4 guilds i know people in

ruby linden
river tendon
#

i did 3times now this stupid event in voidstorm

#

3 wins

#

0 award

woeful geyser
#

you need to be there when it starts

mellow pilot
proud raft
#

i did open a ticket, they said no, opened another ticket a day later, also no

mellow pilot
#

Tell them you're a e-girl

#

might work

torpid harness
#

Did someone say e-girl

mellow pilot
#

I did

sour patrol
mellow pilot
#

Damn

torpid harness
#

Damn

sour patrol
terse torrent
novel pewter
#

😂

glad harness
empty forum
sour patrol
novel cipher
#

I would've absolutely joined that on my rogue I haven't been doing dungeons all week so my IO is in the dumpster

sour patrol
#

I have to really grind shit over the weekend, work takes up all my time and by the time I get home I have about 2 hours to play before I need to go to sleep

novel cipher
#

we could do cute double rogue keys

sour patrol
novel cipher
#

(jk I have work to do and wow is a living screensaver rn)

empty forum
sour patrol
pure mantle
#

for easy midnight leveling, should I go sub, assa or outlaw

#

(I have a 160 dagger, 121 swords) ilvl 140 with 4p and good trinkets

mellow pilot
#

Whatever your heart desires

#

It doesn't matter

#

It isn't important

torpid harness
#

ok

vernal timber
#

guys, what is the command to forfeit the m+ run? lol

plush dune
#

just start calling your healer slurs

torpid harness
#

Nocturnal Lotus price went up by 50g since my last scan this afternoon, it's 19:37 here now

#

... 80g

#

Wait what I just scanned 2 min ago

#

What is going on

sour patrol
#

me getting ready to run keys

torpid harness
#

I thought it said Alien wrench top right

sour patrol
#

Why not

torpid harness
torpid harness
sour patrol
torpid harness
#

These emojis are high tier

sour patrol
#

Glorp is sacred

leaden dirge
#

whats everyone playing in m+ chat

haughty kelp
#

sub

light canyon
plush dune
vernal timber
leaden dirge
steep iron
#

Cant seem to find the setting

#

Thoughts on removing this

#

Or impossible?

upper veldt
steep dock
#

ClearRogueComboPoints

#

by Haptics

merry torrent
#

Didnt rogues have a AOE blind?

stable bison
#

it was removed on beta

#

but its coming back next patch

iron moth
#

After player feedback

worldly summit
#

Hey I have a question about some general stuff for wow. sometimes when I use my shadow blades and other abilities it doing /i shadow blades and it won't let me cast it. In the beginning I thought it was my macro so removed it and dragged every button from the spell book only, but I just had this happen on boss pull in Nexus-point. Anyone else have had this issue? or an idea of what might cause it? I don't use addon's atm outside of talentEX, handy notes and like not mats, no make, simc and socket helper

iron moth
#

is your /say before the shadow blades cast?

worldly summit
#

No I just dragged shadow blades straight from the spell book to the action bar like pure basic atm

zealous halo
#

even in stealth bar

worldly summit
#

Yup

zealous halo
#

swear it ?

worldly summit
#

On god

#

it's also not always, it's like 30% of the time it does it

#

it started happening on reset, didn't have any issues last week

north folio
#

Are keys bugged? I keep getting the same 3 dungeons over and over again

sour patrol
rotund patrol
fiery coyote
#

Might be stealth bar only

#

Hence why it "sometimes" happens

#

Or you change builds and it copied an old action bar

worldly summit
#

Yea that was my first idea, but it still popped up, I did a full addon reinstall and a repair of wow and that seems to have fixed it but i don't man, it's wierd

north brook
twin flame
#

Why can’t rogues have the same PR guy the fucking hunters do

#

this is insane man

#

5x MM on one fight and its untouched 0 rogues except for the free dagger boss and its untouched its never been more over

haughty kelp
#

we can they just arent posting on twitter

#

we need them to start posting MEMES

twin flame
#

We need someone with as much autism and sandbag potential as azortharion bro

#

someone step up to the plate it cant go on like this

amber osprey
#

we should close the discord like the paladins did

fringe umbra
#

That would accomplish literally nothing

amber osprey
#

for legal reasons it was a joke

twin flame
#

doing nothing accomplishes nothing

#

its over

amber osprey
shadow wind
#

!up

twin flame
#

5x Sub rogues on zul = brick the niche of the spec for the rest of eternity
5x MM on paladins boss = buff the other 2 hunter specs

blizzard has cancer bro

#

HOW IS THIS REAL HOW IS THIS REAL

woeful geyser
#

allright, i get the frustration

#

but bringing up a 8(?) year old fight for current day balancing is kinda cooked lol

warm pagoda
#

get with the times old man

twin flame
mellow pilot
#

Calm down

meager totem
#

you need to get some actual argument buddy stop brining random shit up from 2018

#

nobody actually cares

twin flame
mellow pilot
#

Pov you're just an idiot

#

Go touch some grass and return later

woeful geyser
# twin flame Whats your fave flavor of boot little guy?

i say this in the friendliest way possible

shut up you weirdo, im constantly shitting on blizzard here to an annoying degree, but bringing up a fucking 8 year old fight for 2026 fuckups is just dumb as hell

did you bring up frking WotLK balance changes during Legion or something like that?????? cus thats what you are doing right now

twin flame
#

when was the last time they brought 5x of a spec to rwf lmao

#

so much data to pull from!

#

happens all the time

woeful geyser
#

BfA Crucible of Storms

#

aka "ups, only warlocks and shadowpriests"

meager totem
#

they played 4 hunters on the kill btw

#

I know it would take 10s of research which is too much for you

mellow pilot
#

The race in question that went on for... 3 days?

novel pewter
#

Bringing up old balance as an argument is the reason why rogue bad right now.

People still salty from classic. 👀

meager totem
#

I mean dont get me wrong they would play 6 if they could

#

but you need 8 dispells aswell

mellow pilot
#

They finished the raid before patch notes were out OMEGAKEKW

woeful geyser
meager totem
#

and 4x class/spec stacking happens basically every tier

fringe umbra
meager totem
#

I mean its probably getting nerfed on Monday Id assume

novel pewter
meager totem
#

just stop putting council fights later than like 3-4th boss they should know better

#

nobody likes them

woeful geyser
warm pagoda
ember saffron
warm pagoda
#

(I'm not even subbed to the game I just have a desire to garfpost that cannot be sated)

meager totem
ember saffron
#

Oooogh my pacemaker

#

This is the end

meager totem
#

its like dratnos said on stream yesterday, wod is now part of the first half of wow!

#

mop is basically a vintage xpac!

mellow pilot
#

My heart is starting to hurt

#

Can you stop

#

I still see legion as a "yesterday I was playing it, I swear!!" When even I started in tbc

novel pewter
#

Legion to me still feels new. Like it feels newer than Shadowlands in my mind.

vital gorge
#

It was more memorable

#

Legion had an insane buildup

#

Decades of story telling to get there

#

If the game didn't need to continue indefinitely, that's where they should have ended it

plush dune
worldly summit
plush dune
novel cipher
static epoch
sick bough
#

hey, do we get another catalyst charge next id ?

meager totem
#

yes

sick bough
#

nice

pliant perch
#

what rogue has the least energy downtime?

fringe umbra
#

Outlaw

unique fox
#

guys can we shut down the discord

torpid harness
potent seal
#

can we cloak the paladin heal absorb and remove it?

daring sundial
#

how tf are you guys getting into heroic raids

#

without a guild

surreal dawn
#

MM HUNTER

daring sundial
#

let me clarify

#

how are you doing it on a rogue without a guild

potent seal
#

🙂

#

no

daring sundial
#

no wonder people don't play this class if we can't even get group invites

#

insane

surreal dawn
#

it performs if you turn off logs and damage meter

potent seal
#

we technically offer a raid buff but noone knows / cares about that

surreal dawn
#

i make potions and flasks outside of raid for my team

daring sundial
#

so I legit just have to find a guild huh

#

I hate the scheduled raid times

potent seal
#

dont forget that a couldron is equal to the crafting cost of 4 flasks 🙂

#

fun season

naive plank
#

What addon do y'all use to see ppl's ilvl?

potent seal
#

in raid or what?

naive plank
#

When inspecting em

potent seal
#

oh, idk i dont use that. tbh you could just google the question and find it on curse.

naive plank
#

Yeah lol true

potent seal
#

i do use method raid tools, that lets you sorta do it but i know what youre after and idk what that one is called.

pliant perch
#

is there a list somewhere of what feint works on?

#

in M+

foggy bison
#

anyone know about a random buff i get called "Focused Hunt" it silences me and wowhead has nothing on it. It happens only it dungeons it seems

#

cant figure out what causes it

potent seal
#

in all dungeons?

foggy bison
#

it seems that way

potent seal
#

or any dungeon i mean

#

mm

foggy bison
#

just noticed while running m+

#

no one else inthe group has gotten it, its only lme, i feel like its a bugged item or something im missing

potent seal
#

could be something like the pickaxe treassure from s1 TWW

#

something in your inventory that triggeres randomly

foggy bison
#

yea that is what i was thinking but the buff from wowhead said it was introduced in midnight

#

same icon and everything

foggy bison
#

yea we have like 3 people in call trying to just figure it out , its so weird

potent seal
#

is the icon a C'thun esque eye?

foggy bison
#

yea

#

so we get the buff in the world when it falls off it doesn't silence

potent seal
#

thats new this expansion atleast but idk why its silencing you.

foggy bison
#

but in a dungeon it does

potent seal
#

do you have any darkmoon HUNT item atm?

#

embelish / trinket

foggy bison
#

so just the weapon embellishment and a helmet boom

#

algathari trinket and soulflare prism

#

err puzzlebox trinket

potent seal
#

if your weapon has the hunt embelish than this should just be your embelish proc i think, but idk about the silence.

late musk
#

How much % damage comes from the flask you think?

potent seal
#

sim it dracthyr_lulmao

#

no clue

#

im being mega cheap and not using them though.

late musk
#

Couldn't parse the advanced HTML readout

foggy bison
#

ok

#

found it

#

drought of rampant abandon

#

i think

potent seal
#

ah yes

#

i forgot that exist

#

had my RL tank yell about it mid pull 2 days ago xD

foggy bison
#

haah

#

random things sometimes ....this game

#

thanks for help

empty forum
#

Got that first binding today 🙂

tiny bison
#

has anyone gotton catalyst charges from m+ yet ?

ember nest
#

yea i have 5 extras

silent spire
#

Can u guys say me the 3 Strongest specs for m+ ? Want to start an twink

noble kestrel
#

Assassination, Outlaw, Sub.

silent spire
#

Haha alrdy have 2 rogues

warm pagoda
#

Why not a third rogue? Treat yourself

static parcel
#

Is the catalyst drop still bugged ? Wowhead said it was warband wide for some reason ?

ember nest
#

it was not meant to be warband

#

it was fixed

shadow wind
#

!up

brazen karma
rustic tartan
#

An alt

#

Germans used that

#

But basically it means the exact same character twice

#

So it's not accurate anymore

oak tartan
#

Don't ever google twink

woeful geyser
#

and i just say "google twink" every time dracthyr_kek

hearty fog
#

before the whole stat squishing thing came in

#

a common one was BC twinks

#

where they'd have full funwell bis gear or something

craggy ridge
#

are there any known upcoming changes to rouges?

fringe umbra
#

There are none

tough swallow
#

they are just hidden

steep dock
compact basin
#

what is the difference between these two ? They both give the same amount ? Why should I pay more than double the price kekdog

ember nest
#

one gives 0.75% crit dmg the other 1.25%

compact basin
#

oh really, man the tooltip is always the biggest liar

gentle barn
#

yorp

forest arrow
#

So, for logging, we do still utilize the Ask Mr.Robot + Warcraft Logs Companion, right?
I am genuine struggling with something that should be simple, for I cannot for the love of me, find the default folder where Ask Mr.Robot saves things.

fringe umbra
#

Does ask mrrobot still exist?

forest arrow
#

Well, I have it and it seems functional! I do not know, I haven't logged things in this game since BfA. dogeKek

fringe umbra
#

I would not recommend it at all

forest arrow
#

So, how do people get new logs?

fringe umbra
#

Wdym get new logs

forest arrow
#

How do people upload their logs? The only addon I know that recorded it, was Ask Mr.Robot.

noble kestrel
#

Warcraft logs + the Archon app

#

as in you upload to Warcraft logs via the Archon app.

forest arrow
#

I see. Thanks!

#

Might be a good thing to get rid of Ask Mr.Robot and prob the Overwolf App if I can.

forest arrow
#

I'm still in the stone age, don't mind me. dogeKek

sour patrol
#

I was born before Google

noble kestrel
#

Ask Mr. Robot was great during MoP. fond memories.

#

Then I think I started using the rogue specific website? Shadowcraft or something? That was also great

rich meadow
noble kestrel
#

lmao

rich meadow
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Funny as hell. Bout to do the same and invite no leather users kekdog

noble kestrel
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I'm absolutely guilty of doing that this tier

noble kestrel
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Then not a single tier token for leather dropped to spite me

rich meadow
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Rolled a 99 on tier last night and the last person to roll had a 100

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God damn game 😭

noble kestrel
rich meadow
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At least I won the rare neck with a 93 after

noble kestrel
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Hell yeah

sour patrol
sour patrol
rich meadow
sour patrol
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Well I need to goon a lot of keys this weekend, I don't have a lot of time during the week

forest arrow
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Dear freaking lord, I suck ass at Rogue by reading those logs.

rich meadow
forest arrow
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I was pulling the same amount of dmg in Norm Voidspire as the BRM Monk.
Ugh, shoot me.

sour patrol
rich meadow
sour patrol
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tbf they all are when you're a dirty Rogue

sour patrol
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Doing an Academy, healer says tank shouldn't pull too big, he's wonky
Tank tells him to heal better
Tank then DCs before tree

plush dune
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very based

iron moth
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based

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be better pepe_chad

grizzled lodge
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Hey peeps, whats the easiest to play spec on rogue right now? Im a beginner

iron moth
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sub

grizzled lodge
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okey thanks

shut spade
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M plussy gamer antennaglorp

raw hill
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jeez

woeful geyser
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it was a DH

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right?

plush dune
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its always a dh

stone kettle
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do we get another catalyst this week?

fringe umbra
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On reset you get another yes

wicked monolith
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Imagine beating an entire season week 1

sour patrol
# woeful geyser it was a DH

Bear.
We went left at the start and killed the arcane elemental and then the bird.
It was between those two that they had this argument. Neither said anything after that.
We clear the room with the tree and just as the boss activates we see the bear running in place.
Healer (a monk) offers to tank. We pull and die on the first treant add because a ranged was in bumfuck nowhere with his little adds. Group disbands with an "oh well".

balmy bough
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what’s the best race for a horde sub rogue and what are the best tradeskills to take?

fringe umbra
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Tradeskills has literally no effect on combat

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Races are insanely minor, but typically dwarf/night elf are good for keys and right now panda is good for raid

balmy bough
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Thanks

pure mantle
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Does anyone have ANY idea what could be causing this?

gentle barn
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are you using elvui and dark mode?

pure mantle
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elvui yes, darkmode no(?), its not on my other character, only my rogue alt

gentle barn
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dark mode for elvui is what did that for me. you can go into General -> Fonts though and play around with the font and outline. IIRC it was the outline that was goofy

left crow
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Champion of the Dawn achievement: is it actually a 263 item in every slot or just an average of 263?

torpid harness
torpid harness
fringe umbra
mellow pilot
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This isn't the trade chat

crisp atlas
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hey, are we getting another catalyst charge next week ?

warm imp
crisp atlas
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Ty, do you have a link for that guild mates doesn't believe that xD

hearty fog
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Idk probably wowhead will make an article to get more clicks soon

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Its also simple math

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You get one every 2 weeks

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We started off with one last week

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We didnt get one this week

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1+1=2

loud hinge
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Hey guys, what is currently the best spe for mm+ and raid ?

hearty fog
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Devourer dh