wow-general

[weak cape]

banger?

[mellow pilot]

Banger

[weak cape]

Banger

[mellow pilot]

No you are a banger

[weak cape]

i wish however something was added to sub instead of rupture, i think the spec feels kinda empty

[mellow pilot]

I know something that would fill that niche

@tough swallow nightblade

Bang, rupture, but not exactly rupture

[tough swallow]

haha

[mellow pilot]

Honestly idk why they didn't continue the idea with it

[steep dock]

4 buttons is it?

[mellow pilot]

We playing league of legends

[weak cape]

make it last longer <.<

wasnt the uptime on nightblade like 10 sec

[mellow pilot]

It was really short afair

But it was cool, shadow rupture, nice tooltip

Increased the DMG you did on the target by like 10(?)%

[iron belfry]

anyone knows why ticks on sensei bars are so cursed? sometimes they disappear

[flat gulch]

No idea man but it's really weird that it does

I can't replicate it either

[tough swallow]

a lot of addons have bugs like this, its not only sensei bar

[hidden compass]

It was an issue with WAs as well

Pixel perfect stuff would make things disappear. If you can find a way to just the scaling by like 1%, could fix it

[iron belfry]

yeah weakauras with bars having ticks was the same crap

i just added a number centered so i don't see it missing

[hexed geyser]

is there a way to swap the "tracked buffs" from horizontal to vertical depending on spec? better cooldownmanager profiles do not work (for me)

[rich meadow]

Spec to spec you would probably need Arc UI to do that

[hexed geyser]

ugh, so glad that we need 8 addons to do what weakauras could ty!

[rich meadow]

Pretty much. The shitty thing with the CDM when using ArcUI is that the position resets for every new spec or class ur on so u gotta set it up each time. But there are import/export codes

[north shale]

Does anyone know how to enable seeing party frames in raid? The party being your group?

[hexed geyser]

oh god ok. thanks again

[rich meadow]

Takes some time to setup but once u got it it’s good. For the Buffs bar, if you don’t want to see them when not active there’s an aura missing setting you need to set to 0

[hexed geyser]

ya, bcdm can do that as well, just the profile stuff doenst work 100%

[iron belfry]

any ways to hide sensei bars out of combat?

[tough swallow]

I have a solution, but unsure if you like it

give me a sec

(need to install sensai bars and start game)

[long ice]

should be able to in Edit Mode

there's Visibility options

[tough swallow]

^ yep thats way easier than what i thought about

[novel cipher]

yep that's how I have mine

[iron belfry]

ty

i had my fun and returned to default UI i had 3 fps at one point im too tired to deal with this crap

hope this settles down until launch

[tough swallow]

most problems i had addon wise so far was details (which bugged out and potentially caused crashes)

and nameplates, but thats a direct x 12 problem, and i found a workaround

[iron belfry]

i did a key with no addons, pretty hard to kick the murlocs

[noble kestrel]

Has there alwyas been a random Seagull in Tazavesh's entry area?

[woeful geyser]

yes

they have random animals in their cages there

and some are open

cus nothing can contain the evil of a seagull

[noble kestrel]

Damn, the more you know

[ember nest]

they also taste decent if you manage to catch one

[rotund patrol]

arcui updated

[surreal void]

is there a default way to show combat engaged without looking at unitframes? i swore blizzards scrolling combat text use to do so, but its not

frankly annoying not seeing combat flash when i engage or pull unknowingly

[dense umbra]

Edit: nvm someone answered this above

[honest canyon]

i enabled resources and now i have this arbitrary thing on my screen that i can't move, instead of them being on my target. anyone know how to fix this so that I have my CP on my target?

[zealous halo]

cps arent tied to a target in retails so that doesnt make much sense

if you really want that you will need addons

you need addons anyway for resources and shit, the blizzard thing is kinda scuffed

you can move it via edit mode tho

[honest canyon]

right... that's not what I am asking. before prepatch, I was able to see my combo points above my target or ANY target. now I don't. how do I return to that?

[honest canyon]

the health, energy, and CPs you see in the box on the left is unable to be moved in edit mode

[fringe umbra]

It is not

You just have to enable it in the edit mode

But either way im not sure its possible to anchor it to the nameplates, and like zac said there really aint no reason to have it not be alongside the rest of your UI

[zealous halo]

you cant anymore

unless you use an addon

plater can prolly do it idk

[fervent ibex]

Addons

[frigid isle]

Hey there people! Any way I can setup the combo point "bar" like this with sensei or any other addon? Cant seem to figure out how to separate each combo point

[oak tartan]

That looks like weakauras and probably isn't possible anymore. Sensei class bars doesn't have an option for padding i think atleast

[frigid isle]

Yep it's a weakaura, I was just wondering if the padding is possible with an addon or not

[iron belfry]

current addons use bars with ticks, not individual CP.
im sure an addon can be made with individual CP but those are more CPU intensive and complicated to do

[fallen swan]

check out wangbar on curseforge https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/wangbar-resource-bars

[frigid isle]

thats exactly what I was looking for. appreciate it mate!

[fallen swan]

all credit to @lament spindle who developed it the last couple days

[pine idol]

Anyone know of an addon/Arcui setting etc that reminds you when you've got the wrong weapon types equipped? Keep cooking it between outlaw swords and ass/sub daggers

[faint bough]

Use gear profiles in your character screen to attach to a spec and it will automatically switch for you

[iron belfry]

this works for rogue only ? im not home to install it yet

[fallen swan]

yeah rogue only so far i think

[neat remnant]

anyone using ElvUI since it was updated? I was a big E user until they said no to Midnight. Cut the cord cold turkey last month. Now its back and wondering what peeps think.

[cloud badger]

its fine although there is unhalted unit frames too

which is similar if not better

[lament spindle]

Does it work??

[fallen swan]

i wasnt able to test yet

[lament spindle]

Must’ve got reviewed and uploaded last night

[faint bough]

can't wait for that scumbag addon dev to introduce the "Wang+ Pack" for the low low price of 29.99/mo for all the QoL features

[lament spindle]

Will u pay for it

Support me

[neon glen]

you only get the first 6 combo points for free, the 7th is is 9.99/month

(life hack: skip a stratagem talent)

[zealous halo]

nice ai icon bro ..

[lament spindle]

Drew that in paint nbd

[zealous halo]

nbd

[rich fjord]

Yo guys, I’m having a hard time removing all my poisons and minor debuffs from Plater.
I only want Garrote and Rupture to show on enemy nameplates.
Tried a bunch of settings but nothing seems to work — anyone knows how to do it?

[zealous halo]

there is no debuff filtering anymore

[neon glen]

Plater cannot filter buffs

[zealous halo]

[rich fjord]

W H A T

[neon glen]

use Platynator if you want blizzard's filtering, or wait until blizzard allows addons to do that

[rich fjord]

xDDDDDD

[zealous halo]

custom filtering is not a thing anymore

so you gotta relly on blizzard filtering

[tough swallow]

on nameplatres?

[rich fjord]

We're legit forced to look at 10+ useless debuffs lmao

[zealous halo]

which is mostly shit cause its blizzard

[zealous halo]

on nameplates or personal buffs

or personal debuffs

[tough swallow]

idk how but iirc nameplatekai allows you to whitelist auras, so you can filter it that way

[long ice]

platynator default filters so it only shows rupture and garrote

[tough swallow]

i haven't tested it much tho

[long ice]

iirc plater has a Show Important checkbox

[zealous halo]

ye but its still blizzard filtering

so its kinda rng

what you get

[tough swallow]

no its like

i only whitelisted one thing, and i only saw it

[long ice]

OP

[zealous halo]

i dont think that should be possible rn

unless im missing something

[tough swallow]

i did not test in keys

[long ice]

I actually haven't looked into platynator filtering, just saw their default was nice

[zealous halo]

well its not really platynator filtering, its just that blizzard allows for specific key filters to be used

but its very general

and very much controlled by blizzard still

[neon glen]

this is the author of nameplatekai

[zealous halo]

for example iirc for outlaw it shows ps debuff slow

[fringe umbra]

Looked at the forums, lots of people upset they cannot see their poisons on their nameplates anymore

[zealous halo]

[tough swallow]

interessting, thanks

[zealous halo]

i do hope blizzard allows us to fully filter things but

that could be considered a competitive advantage so

Me when i have to look at the key debuff + lust debuff the whole key in my personal debuffs

[neon glen]

tbh the way the specs play their default filtering is ok for rogues

[zealous halo]

i mean for now

like you just gotta get lucky right

its the same thing as the cdm but worse since there is legit 0 control on it

if blizzard decide that something is important but you dont agree

[long ice]

yeah compared to others we got kinda lucky

[zealous halo]

you are kinda fucked

[long ice]

but agreed I really hope blizz allows for legit filtering

[zealous halo]

also reminder that some specs still dont have some cds trakced in the cdm at all

so

i wouldnt trust them to have good buffs/debuffs filtering either

[neon glen]

it's ok Prep isn't on cdm because it's getting replaced with something better

[zealous halo]

sure

[ember nest]

yea they forgot to change it with goremaw the silly goobers

instead put it on outlaw

[neon glen]

they will move it to sub, but keep the same spells on the reset list

[plush dune]

But for some reason if you track symbols it will work with prep

[ember nest]

dont worry they will also add garrote to sub and outlaw to keep things spicy maybe

[fringe umbra]

Sometimes its not even the same for everyone of the same spec

I had to make 4 new profiles before i could get vanish to show as sub

[zealous halo]

isnt it just htat the icons are legit rng

[fringe umbra]

Because it didnt work the firstt 3 profiles for some reason?

[zealous halo]

like sometimes a buff is an icon or another

[lament spindle]

Their dmg meter just doesn’t work half the time either

[long ice]

I think I’m just gonna 100% disable the meter and have live logs going at all times

Legit the most useless thing

[zealous halo]

its ok

its only prepatch guys

[ember nest]

yea for sub sometimes you get 2 vanishes or no vanishes or 1 that does not work

to track

[faint bough]

We are so lucky that we get to help along with the development process for the next 6 weeks, its so cool being this integrated into how the game is made, much love blizz! 👍 🏄‍♂️ 🏄‍♀️

[ember nest]

cant wait to have to cancelaura my apex so it does not break my best finisher that has a cooldown

[deft stratus]

What’s the general consensus on the changes to rogue? I’m liking the feel of outlaw now personally, do we think we’ll be viable?

[ember nest]

they made the specs more simple it is a change of all time

some people will like it others not

[faint bough]

viable is just a matter of tuning, so impossible to tell at this point

[ember nest]

more changes will come

[deft stratus]

I mean I loved BFA and SL outlaw

I like complex

[ember nest]

well i have bad news

[faint bough]

that being said, outlaws damage profile and reliance on uptime has traditionally hindered its performance in top level content, and neither of those really changed all that much with the rework

[deft stratus]

So the overall simplification I find bad but outlaw still feels it has a bit of learning involved

Wonder will the dungeons have nice shroud pathing so we become viable for high level keys

[fallen swan]

just tested it, works great

[lament spindle]

UI is “ugly” but functional so I don’t really mind or think it’ll get a big upgrade

I will add compatibility with a few specs I play and guildies play

[deft stratus]

I was just wondering if the community likes or hates the rogue changes, given the fact they’ve dumbed down every class

[fallen swan]

one minor thing i noticed though is this after using AR

first CP is white, idk if i messed up some setting

doesnt happen when i normally fill cps without AR

[lament spindle]

It all depends on who you ask. Outlaw players in TWW don’t really like it, but there weren’t many of us

But pre DF S2 rework outlaw players and non outlaw players like it

[lament spindle]

Interesting

I never saw that behavior

[zealous halo]

i mean one of my favorite version of outlaw is still some of the sl ones, and midnight outlaw doesnt even come close

so idk about that

[lament spindle]

Yeah there was much more to outlaw then too, but the general idea is the same ish

[deft stratus]

I loved the feeling of getting a good roll the bones roll

[mellow pilot]

It's like feeling loved the first time

[lament spindle]

I think my PSU died last night so can’t fix rn!

I have to go to micro center today ugh!

[fallen swan]

all good f to ur psu

[steep dock]

Sometimes psus can fry other components,hope that didnt happen

[lament spindle]

It was overnight, my computer was off i am unsure how this stuff works

[novel cipher]

then you're probably fine just replacing the power supply and its cables

a good quality power supply will absolutely fall on the sword for you and spare the other components

a low quality power supply?

[lament spindle]

I bet mine is fine, it was like a 1800$ computer when I built it I think? With a power supply to match

Gonna go to micro center today

[novel cipher]

I adore that meme

[frozen kernel]

shadowblade's lethal omen mount, does anyone have it and how to achieve it?

[mellow pilot]

Rogue legion class hall campaign

https://www.wowhead.com/item=143492/midnight-black-reins-of-dark-portent

check the comments

[rich meadow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/s/qMMkGXv86V

Hmmmmm

Thought we weren’t supposed to have stuff like this anymore 😭

[plush dune]

that isnt doing anything other addons cant do with the cdm

weakauras themselves couldve done this, they just (rightfully) decided it wasnt worth the time and effort tearing it apart and rebuilding

[fringe umbra]

It looks very similiar to arc ui

With a hint of weakauras

[rustic tartan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1126513376915357817/1465454991966867539/e73aa002b76e8d43e26e1c765fd76755.png?ex=6979d390&is=69788210&hm=eb61fc146916f19aaf78b8593d5b782eecbd3e8f13074afb23a0fd848b3b2f7c&animated=true How do i hide this without a unit frame addon?

[placid compass]

Hey I play human in pvp and was wondering if I still use medallion or if I go sigil of adaptation. Is there a way to get relentless or is that just gone?

[tough swallow]

Unless they found a workaround to limitations, its just a fancy ui

arc ui is a middle ground between weakauras and cooldown manager already

this seems like it moves more into the direction of weakauras in terms of interface

[rich meadow]

Looks just like it lol

[tough swallow]

but functionality wise, most of the addons will be the same

[rich meadow]

Just saw they are updating some API stuff on the beta tomorrow too 🔥

[tough swallow]

interessting

one thing i noticed

is addons now ship with a lot more functionality

[past yoke]

#pvp they should help you better here

[tough swallow]

but thats likely because of claude code

[placid compass]

ah, mb

ty

[tough swallow]

people vibe code addons a lot it seems

which isn't inherently bad, my worry is just about quality control

[past yoke]

addonds that cause a lot of trouble will be known, its a matter of player choice

like everyone knowing elvui drops fps but for a lot its worth it

[tough swallow]

elv makes a good point that performance does not matter

[past yoke]

when the playerbase like an addon enough*

[tough swallow]

functionality is what matters

[past yoke]

yep

[tough swallow]

and comfort

[past yoke]

unless you have a turbo shit pc

like me

[tough swallow]

unless you have unplayable framerates

[past yoke]

and cant afford to lose precious 10 fps

[tough swallow]

people cba if the addon is inefficient or draws cpu

[past yoke]

yep

the drop from 100 to 90 fps is whatever if the addon is good

[tough swallow]

just to proof my point, this was a conversation the other day

[past yoke]

so around 3% when shit activates

uff

[tough swallow]

it depends on your cpu

i am on a laptop

[past yoke]

same

[tough swallow]

and my cpu isn't that good

so 0.4% might be 0.1% on a newer cpu model

the impact of addons diminishes with better cpu's

as you create a higher headroom

[past yoke]

yeah, im good since i only ever use the minimum addons, just the basics for ui and raid/m

[tough swallow]

like

plater was the most popular nameplate addon

but plater was like 6x more cpu intensive than nameplat KUI

and kui was another 3x or so compared to KAI

[past yoke]

i didnt know plater was that heavy

[tough swallow]

so in a direct comparison, there is a huge diffrence

[past yoke]

is platy better?

[tough swallow]

well

people used an addon to dissable certain nameplates

so they could use plater on certein fights

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/plater-nameplater-performance-units-plugin

[glossy flicker]

part of the plater/elv issue is that they both had very fast update rates out of the box

if you changed those they werent particularly heavy

[tough swallow]

so the solution to plater performing bad

was to create an addon that dissabled it partly to lower the amount of compute it consumes

[past yoke]

damn, thats quite good

[tough swallow]

well there are two options to solve a problem

[past yoke]

not updated for mn sadly

[tough swallow]

the addon does not work anymore

and nameplate functionality changed, so you mostly just re-skin existing nameplates

means less custom code

so performance should be very similar between addons

[past yoke]

go it, hope my fps stay decent this expansion then

[tough swallow]

the point i was making was diffrent

there are two ways to solve a problem

• fix the root cause
• find a solution to mitigate the impact

e.g. if a spell has a bug

you can fix the bug

or just remove the spell

or well, remove the interaction that causes the bug

the first would mean you need to dive into the code and chase down the issue, which costs a lot of time

the later just means you temporary suspend it by creating a solution that might not be perfect

but is easy to do

[past yoke]

For addons any solution is good imo, i doubt they make good money from them

[tough swallow]

right

[past yoke]

For blizzard they better do 1st

[tough swallow]

well they most of the time do 2nd

[past yoke]

I figured

Which sucks

[tough swallow]

it makes sense fincancially

[past yoke]

I guess so, but on a monthly based subscription+expansions...yikes

Im fine with temporary solutions for complex bugs that affect gameplay tho

[tough swallow]

well

i can explain a lot of bugs based on the "quick" fixing approach

but blizz survived for a long time

so the approach works good enough to not upset many

[past yoke]

Yeah

The game is a lot better than its competitors

Not everything blizz does is bad

[tough swallow]

i think the lack of a competitor is the problem in the space

[past yoke]

Yeah, they csn get away with a lot

But i doubt there will be a wow killer

Or a strong enough competitor in the long run

[tough swallow]

there might be long term

but atm there is none

keep in mind that wow has a very loyal playerbase, and not everyone is a mmorpg player

[past yoke]

oh absolutely, i would play a hello kitty wow expansion hating the concept just bc its wow

and i have had fun in wow almost every time so

[tough swallow]

think fellowship showed it well

people thought of it as the wow killer

the basic concept was to copy wow's m+ formula

and make it a game

[past yoke]

everything that resembles wow in the slightlest is the wow killer

every time

and it does nothing

[tough swallow]

but the game was too similar to wow, and it did not appeal enough to draw you away from wow

so it now dissapeared

(more or less, the player count is rly low)

so, in order to compete with wow, you actually need to do better

give people a reason to switch away and stay in the new experience/world

if you arn't, your best chance is to just supplement the game

[past yoke]

and for a lot of people that also means "losing" your wow guildies/friends unless they swap too

[tough swallow]

during its downtime

so people play "wow" while there is wow content

and your game during downtime

[past yoke]

i can see people doing that

i just stay off mmos when im tired of wow

[tough swallow]

final fantasy online was a competition shortly

but people realized its diffrent enough to not have the same appeal

and they also did some decisions lately that drived people away

you would need a very big universe to actually compete tehre

*there

and only few companies have

it is, in a sense, a super interesting space to look at, that's sadly stagnant

[past yoke]

well its a huuuuuuge investment to design something as big

with no real guarantees

like the amazon mmo

[tough swallow]

new world?

[past yoke]

ye

i even forgot its name

[tough swallow]

people overhyped that game

a lot of games these days are hype driven it seems

[past yoke]

games are a hype chain now

[tough swallow]

where short term hype is what streamers create, but then there is only a very short term lifetime of the game

lifetime in growing players, before it stagnates or drops again

[past yoke]

some games do deliver tho

but i dont keep up with game releases to have a proper opinion of it besides the hype chain

[tough swallow]

mostly single player games

and indie hits every now and then

[past yoke]

well thats mostly bc people got fed up with so many live service games

i do like good single player game

except they dont release tes 6 or fallout 5 so

[tough swallow]

i think its just very hard to enter the competitive online gaming market

there are established players (games), and it sometimes feels like you can't rly enter the market anymore

[past yoke]

valorant was quite disruptive

but a new game competing with csgo2 and valorant

sounds extremely hard

[tough swallow]

valorant competed with cs for players, and it did win because couterstrike was at a low point

it did help both

cs did improve from it, and riot had another very successful game

[past yoke]

yes, but now a new game has to compete with both of them

for roughly the same combined players

which is very hard

[iron wharf]

do we still have mdt? or is there any other addon available to know what each mob do/% in m+?

[tough swallow]

don't forget to accept your quest

[ember nest]

big baker

[safe adder]

I was bored and wanted to see what wow log parser tool I could spin up with Claude Code

[naive monolith]

lol i love those two addon

[safe adder]

does details still work?

I added it but it felt like it got no realtime data

only after combat

[fringe umbra]

It reskins the default meter

There is no way to make details work like it did before

[safe adder]

gross this default one is poo poo

[fringe umbra]

Atleast we wont have another boss like fractillus

[safe adder]

I didnt play this season, does he have some dps mechanic

[rare solar]

He only has raid wide organization mechanics

So the ones easily solvable with assignment weakauras

[safe adder]

ahh

yea thats nice

[plush dune]

fract was a psyop

[rare solar]

So without the weakauras and the boss giving us more time to resolve mechanics he couldve been really cool

[fringe umbra]

Realistically it wouldve been exactly the same

Except you would have one person dedicated to calling it out

[rare solar]

Yeah or predictable assignment of the mechanics

[fringe umbra]

My previous comment was satirical because fract is being painted as the "evil weakaura boss" when its just a fairly poorly designed boss

that wouldnt be much fun regardless

[rare solar]

The idea for the mechanics is good imo, it wouldve been a fun thing to learn without a weakaura in my ear going "STAR" or "BREAK SQUARE"

[ember nest]

fractilus would be way easier if the mythic wall was just BIG and RED or took more spaces or something so you knew which it is

but nah lets just make it a random wall that spawns on the tank some way

[naive monolith]

[sour patrol]

Everything is a psyop, fren
Make sure you update your tinfoil

[sour patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-squish-gif-16136532503569005934

[pale bison]

haven't played rogue since MoP and figure it time to play. What spec is good for leveling and pvp? kinda want to do both or is doing the new event faster? lvl 50

[rocky mulch]

so guys is rogue cooked in midnight or?

[faint bough]

In what way

[rocky mulch]

in terms of dmg compared to the other classes

[faint bough]

Tuning can and will change so impossible to say at this point

[rocky mulch]

fairs

hopefully we are slamming

[dusky shore]

is there any addon to damn disable this annoying error?

[chrome matrix]

I just had a staff drop for me off a boss

confirmed rogue tank inc?

[next axle]

disable that addon, not a standard Lua error

[unreal gulch]

Its the new daredevil spec

[mellow pilot]

Either sub, assassination or outlaw, for either pvp or pve

[safe adder]

anyone else have this issue with event. my second character cant get the quests to kill rares or complete world quests and all the world quests give resonant crystals instead of the event tokens

Ive done all the pre quests

[meager totem]

theyre not per char rewards

[safe adder]

Even the world quests?

Ahh so those tokens then were warband

[meager totem]

yeah

[minor pond]

is the current event any good for levelling?

[sharp nest]

is the umbric questline before or after the short story they put on youtube?

[raw hill]

yo is the new demon hunter spec any good rn?

kinda wondering if its worth learning a new spec especially since i havent touched DH in awhile

[steady tundra]

What spec is good now in prepatch? is outlaw any good? feels pretty decent on dummys but ye i have no gear or anything xD

[long ice]

it looks cool vfx-wise, lots of time spent spamming your main builder

not the most engaging imo

[raw hill]

ahh so its kinda just spam and then unleash 1 big attack then

[long ice]

kind of, in prepatch things are a little wonky bc you don't get your apex talents to get a free collapsing star (their big nuke thing) but you basically build up souls til you get enough to go into meta form and that takes a while to ramp in the opener

then every so often you can use felblade/the hunt to dash into melee, use their melee spell thing, then vr back out and keep spamming your builder

[faint bough]

It's prepatch you should be seeing if you like how each spec plays and don't worry about tuning cause we are not at max level yet

Plus things can and will change

[steady tundra]

Yea i know, im not a rogue player, i maybe wanna give it a go as an alt. And i've only played outlaw before, But if it sucks i wont get invited to anything to try the spec anyway ^^

[tiny forge]

heard outlaw is lookin pretty spicy in midnight

[frozen scarab]

absolutely not

[woeful geyser]

just do timewalking for leveling

[minor pond]

i was hoping it would be gigalevelling like the tww pre-patch event :(

[novel cipher]

Nope

[woeful geyser]

give it 2 weeks

and tbh

we just had legion remix for that

[novel cipher]

Right but I didn't see how cool the 1800 evoker set for midnight s1 was until legion remix was over

[raw hill]

ahh so its still about alot of movement

[long ice]

yeah it depends on which hero tree you play

if you go voidscarred you opt into the melee dash-in talents bc they're central to that tree

[raw hill]

ill prob play scarred

[long ice]

whereas annihilator is like pure caster

[raw hill]

fuk, my ilevel is ass tho

[long ice]

its def worth checking out if you're interested

[raw hill]

havent played dh since tww s1

[long ice]

I'm likely playing havoc as an alt in midnight so imma be checking out devourer at 90 where it gets all its bells and whistles

[raw hill]

lmfao hows havoc now anyway? i kinda stopped playing it when they changed it a shit ton in season 1

and then went to assassination rogue

[long ice]

I'm an Inertia fan so I've been enjoying it, dabbled a bit here and there and came back to it in prepatch

[raw hill]

it do be kinda fun

[remote parrot]

Guys do you think there is a chance for us to be meta in M+ is midnight?

[hazy halo]

Yes

[faint bough]

there is a 50/50 chance for any spec to be meta in midnight

[raw hill]

lmfao i thought rogue was like very stably good since the start

[plush geyser]

its a triple dps spec you got options

[raw hill]

more like double, outlaw doesnt exist

[woeful geyser]

based and real

[unreal coyote]

with a lack of a good raid buff in m+

we have to be doing illegal damage to be considered hard meta

but honestly, meta really only matters in like r1 keys tbh

[hazy halo]

A spec is always just a few blue lines away of being meta. Thats just how it is. If your allowed to do more dmg then every one else nothing else really matters

[tiny forge]

Meta only truly matters in r1 keys but also kinda matters everywhere cause the people making groups be silly little willies

[faint bough]

make friends and then you can play whatever you want

its the op secret meta no one will tell you

[frozen scarab]

what if my friends are all "adults" with "jobs" and "kids"

[tiny forge]

Its amazing, we, as a community (the wow playerbase), have had this conversation at least one billion times

[faint bough]

[unborn ether]

which is the most beginner friendly rogue spec?

[faint bough]

traditionally it has been assassination but with the recent reworks all 3 are pretty accessible now

[unborn ether]

Assassination best for open world content too ?

[delicate cove]

is the pre patch event purely for catch up and storytelling? or is thre anything that needs to be done for the expansion?

[faint bough]

nothing needs to be done it is for transmogs/catchup/has some story elements (i think i dont pay attention to that)

[faint bough]

all are perfectly fine at open world content, so just whichever playstyle/vibes you prefer

[unborn ether]

i feel like i do way more damage on outlaw atm lol

than assasination, not tried sub yet

[tiny forge]

I like sub in open world cause you just sec tech and kill everything instantly

[peak lynx]

Any tip with which addon etc. i can play a sound on max combo points?
Used NugComboBar before?

[hexed heron]

heya, im sure you've gotten this question, but why do we take Airborne Irritant for shorter blind cd in raid instead of any of the other defensive talents like Deadened Nerves or Iron Stomach? As outlaw

[plush geyser]

Neither of those really do anything in raid

deadened nerves is phys damage reduction, essentially useless in raid

iron stomach not much better either

[fringe umbra]

You can pick whatever you want out of the utility options

But fwiw airborne currently still makes blind AoE

(it shouldnt, but it does)

[night ginkgo]

I know this doesnt mean shit anymore since its no longer CE mount but i got that mount 😄

[frozen scarab]

god i love well written patch notes

[mellow pilot]

It means a lot actually, GJ gamer

[rich meadow]

https://x.com/khorgnir/status/2016539031216042003?s=46&t=YKaisWqFkCTf8y-DfuEaHw

Burger Khorg (@Khorgnir)

Blizzard customer service replying to every ticket with “idk, check wowhead” while the game falls to pieces

X · Jan 28, 2026, 3:49 PM

[long crag]

man i love level squish

[mellow pilot]

By some chance does anyone know the Retail communities to help people doing m+, like first steps and such, without all the "rushrushrush" mentality? i knew about 1/2 communities but can't recall the name

No Pressure, found it

[pale bison]

been so long since i've played rogue, Cata era, was going for the legendary dagger then, so long ago

want to change it up this exp play a class i haven't in awhile

[mellow pilot]

Good luck!

[wraith linden]

anyone know if beta is expected to be up throughout feb

[granite panther]

Having an issue where stealth breaks randomly. No button pressed. No incoming dmg or debuff. I will stealth and then shortly come out after 5-6 seconds

[plush dune]

are you using the nightfall dagger

[granite panther]

everforged

[plush dune]

then no idea

[granite panther]

Disregard, I am smoof brain.

My off hand was the Nightfall dagger.

[plush dune]

its always the dagger

its also int btw so definitely replace it asap

[granite panther]

I have the other one that's shadowstalker.

No idea why I even have this one.

[sour patrol]

Anyone know how to get my tooltip to display health? I can't seem to figure it out

[plush dune]

isnt that exactly what the green bar is

i always have to find an addon to disable it

[rare solar]

there's surely a different addon to have the numbers for health displayed as well

[sour patrol]

Apparently Blizz isn't allowing it, you can only see your own as a %

Can't do it on other people

[dusky jewel]

anyone know what addon these target combo points are from? i do not want them there

disabled all addons and they are still there i feel so stupid

where is this setting?

[celest fossil]

is it worth upgrading your gear before you get BIS

or how does that owork

with the valor stones or w/e

[mighty hatch]

dude i hate this guy so much]

[mellow pilot]

Bis isn't a real thing, so you upgrade along the way

[tough swallow]

reminder that addon updaters are still hugely inefficient
(wowup has its own problems too, curseforge is just the most popular)

[celest fossil]

What are these set items then people will have

[ember nest]

tier sets usually come every raid now that make you stronger at 2 and 4

and you upgrade what you can most of the time after it drops depending on the level of content you do

[neon glen]

wtf are they doing? spawning a new process for each addon they have to update?

[ember nest]

it is just doing dir commands

nothing crazy

im no programmer so no idea if you can batch those but in bash likely they just send a command to place the files in the correct place and delete old ones

[tough swallow]

They spawn a shitton of cmhosts, for i asusme updates, advertisment networs, etc

[ember nest]

ah rofl the ads

true

[tough swallow]

the above list is after more than half of them got killed

my laptop actively slows down and lags when starting the client

🤣

[ember nest]

they want your premium money

time to tp to latvia

[tough swallow]

bold of them to assume i have money

[atomic acorn]

Anyone know addon that would highlight pandemic in the CDmanager, the bliz alerts and available colors are not good for me, for life of me i cannot notice them, they are way too small the "marching ants" thingy

[iron belfry]

do flash instead of marching ants , its similar to the WA glow

[unborn ether]

Which rogue spec has the lowest skill floor atm ?

and is there much diff on dps between them atm ?

[empty burrow]

Kinda a bad question to ask rn. Balance in prepatch is kinda wack and not something blizz is gonna focus on much. And the balance for midnight isnt set in stone yet so we can't really answer on that.

As for skill floor all 3 specs got made significantly easier so I would honestly suggest giving all 3 a whirl and seeing which one meshes with u, they each play very differently and ur honestly gonna have the easiest time on the one u enjoy playing.

[unborn ether]

which one has the most survivability ? i feel super squish lol

[empty burrow]

They mostly have the same amnt. Outlaw and sub used to build a lot of verse but that isnt the case going forth so they are all gonna be a bit squishier. You do need to be aware that almost all our mitigation is active. Rogue is very tanky if u know what defensive to press in what situation, but baseline our survivability is p low.

Sustain is something rogue just doesnt have if thats what your talking about, we die to rot dmg and can't really solo stuff either.

[next axle]

rogue isn't tanky and main issue they lack is selfhealing, last season sub would be considered tankiest rogue spec due to shield/heal from damage/vanish + preemptive maneuver .
If ur speaking pve yes they need crit over vers , law will still use vers/crit/haste considering how squishy it is and the preemptive maneuver is still nerfed even tho we lost float like a butterfly

[hearty fog]

every class isn't really resistant to rot damage

except mages

and maybe dk

[empty burrow]

evokers also do wel vs rot

as do dh with their native leech

[past yoke]

Amd warlock with the drain life talents

[austere siren]

Am I alone in thinking that Outlaw is dope now? How we feeling?

Rogues in my guild don't seem excited

[fringe umbra]

Plenty of people played outlaw (or any of the rogue specs) because it was difficult, those people are generally not too happy with the simplification

But theres a lot of people that like it

[ember nest]

there may be more players playing rogue in midnight

you just wont see them here likely

[hazy halo]

One thing i find interesting about that is there were options to play a easy spec if you like that before. Retri Bm etc.
For the kind of player who liked playing something more difficult what are the current options now?
So somehow there is less choice in that regard.

[fringe umbra]

Yeah

[ember nest]

dont worry feral was like that forever too

and they just decided no

now it is rogue's time

[long horizon]

But how do you convert pre midnight "complex" specs in a console port ? There is so many binds you can have that fit on controller and it seems that's 100% the direction the game is taking imo

And it's depressing tbh

[sacred bough]

when is the big wow news coming

[mellow pilot]

If they make the raid boss fights more engaging, looking / caring less about your rotation because it's easier sounds like a good trade off to me

A good example to this, in my opinion, are most of the FF14 boss fights. Most of the rotation is pressing 1 2 3, but the fights are so engaging and fun (with great soundtracks) that you don't really think about "damn it's boring pressing 1 2 3"

[frozen scarab]

yeah i wouldn't say i have faith they'll pull it off, but i am okay with simple/easy rotation if they can move the interest and complexity to the boss mechanics.
but thats also how you get WA bosses and also doesn't apply to non-raid content

that said simple/easy is not the same as boring

[naive monolith]

Do you guys have any recommendations for addon that allow to change the size and color of cooldown number?

like omniCC

[zealous halo]

Ion said multiple time they weren't doing a console port tho

[long horizon]

You can play on steam deck so technically it's already done 😂

[noble kestrel]

The stream is starting in 10, so probably in 10

[plush dune]

i'd argue closer to 15-20

gotta get the random shit no on cares about out of the way first

[mortal wedge]

no one hates like wow players god dam

not even really in and all just spaming L

[rare solar]

I just saw the good ol !drops wall

[mortal wedge]

HAHAHHAA

People calling retail old uncs is something

1 boss raid?

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

https://tenor.com/view/funny-as-hell-beat-saber-prop-hunt-gif-19318537

[main mulch]

so like they just took mischief and mayhem from overwatch and called it a day

i know prop hunt is old as the internet i am not stupid.

omg dungeon crawler

[frozen scarab]

m e g a d e l v e

[mortal wedge]

new game mode?

[mortal wedge]

at least they give option to only do it in chunks

[main mulch]

Moba in WoW please

[mortal wedge]

if i dont have infinite free time

NO

no moba

please god no

[main mulch]

idc, we already have a battle royale

3 lanes, towers, import plunderstorm abilities for kits idk

using human and orc peons as creeps

[frozen scarab]

tbh could be good. delves really grew on me over time

[mortal wedge]

rogue cinematic

we cooking

oo

BADIE

https://tenor.com/view/stewie-griffin-ruined-gif-27261720

[main mulch]

yeah kinda baddie tbh

makes me want to make a belf rogue rn

[crystal cypress]

fuck yeah ozzy

[mortal wedge]

ozzy always a win

[frozen scarab]

so thats where the rogue budget went

[mortal wedge]

LUL

no classic at all

they gona mald

[main mulch]

real

[mortal wedge]

actual melt down incoming

holy shit

[main mulch]

yeah there is no classic+ atm

r/classicwow isnt gonna be happy

[mortal wedge]

i cant wait

for the tears

holy shit

[main mulch]

but they did show TBC roadmap

[mortal wedge]

HOLY SHIT THANK YOU BLIZZ

FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT

[main mulch]

so thats fine i guess

[mortal wedge]

nah they gona throw a fit

mf really thought they wouldnt save that shit for blizzcon

[woeful geyser]

its also like

why would they "hide" it lol

if they would do a console port, they would literally tell people that they are doing one so the people with a console that want it are hyped lol

(and wow is playable on a controller for ages at this point, even if its not really that optimal)

[noble kestrel]

You can play WoW on a 'console' right now if you wanted (it's just a computer, consoles are just computers these days, WoW can run on a computer)

[woeful geyser]

and the new xbox is basically a PC anyway

like, you literally have your PC games avaible on it lol

[noble kestrel]

Not basically, it explictly is just a Windows pc.

Which is funny

[sleek herald]

Is it

[woeful geyser]

yes.......?

[noble kestrel]

Yes

[sleek herald]

Which one?

[wanton rivet]

did someone else expect something more at the end then an trailer ? was a pretty let down

[woeful geyser]

the entire "pruning for console" thing is weird anyway cus like

ff14 has WAY more buttons then WoW (and tbh, it is a big problem in ff14 because most of those buttons feel pointless)

and the game was desinged to be playable on Console and PC since day 1 lol

amount of abilitys is not the problem, never was

in WoW the problem is targeting/target swaps lol

[noble kestrel]

(Also patch cadence issues)

[frozen scarab]

if there was a good solution for interrupts on controller i'd be using one already

hard to mouseover macro with a joystick

[mortal wedge]

there is some Fan made addon for controller not sure if it works now

but it was ok

besides targeting

[noble kestrel]

Just shout "Healer's adjust" and bam, solved

[mortal wedge]

was really weird for it

[frozen scarab]

on my dk i'd just tank it but im scared of everything on rogue

[rotund patrol]

yeah they would have to redesign the entire combat for WoW. and then what's the point when you already have the best combat of any MMORPG

[sleek herald]

Some sort of smart tabbing could be done to get it reasonable

[frozen scarab]

souls-like target lock on would kinda work

[young pike]

Hmns don't think so, I play exclusively on a Lenovo Legion Go running steam OS, and combat feels amazing with it. I use console port which makes everything work really well with controllers.

[woeful geyser]

i mean

healers exists

its not just enemy targeting

its targeting teammates for things like healing/externals/dispells

hell, even rogue has that with shadowstep

[sleek herald]

Same answer

Shadowstep would be weird

[rotund patrol]

what content do you do on it?

[woeful geyser]

if you wanna remove literally all healer gameplay, sure lmao

[sleek herald]

You can tab allies too

[woeful geyser]

(and that ignores content with more then 1 healer aswell btw)

[sleek herald]

I mean youre limited by a controler, there has to be some inconvenience, its just trying to make the most of it

It could prioritise allies in your group over just random raid members

[young pike]

Well I came back to wow just a few months ago, but I done M+s, and some raiding. I don't think there's any content I couldn't do jsut as well as someone playing with keyboard and mouse.

Only thing is I don't communicate much in game, but use my phone for discord.

[strange jetty]

does anyone just blurt out damn u ion whenever u see him in the video?

or just me?

[grizzled fjord]

[mellow pilot]

but why

[strange jetty]

i mean is it not tradition to crap on Ion?

[mellow pilot]

I wouldn't go out of my way to do that, no

[strange jetty]

oh just for fun , nothing harsh

[main mulch]

these rare times are actually annoying me

i just had to go out and miss Mirrorvise

the only one i need

[woeful geyser]

idk man, i get a raging boner everytime he is on screen

[strange jetty]

hate boner

?

or just regular?

[woeful geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-kid-yes-wink-gif-15886187

[main mulch]

he is like the last wow old guard i swear

[strange jetty]

because he's the least problemetic

problematic

well and christ metzen just got tired of WoW at some point i think

[woeful geyser]

i mean, metzen is also just a good chunk older then he was 21 years ago

roughly 21 years if i would take a gues

[strange jetty]

yeah cant blame him

dude is at retire age right?

[woeful geyser]

thats a thing that very often gets kinda ignored when people leave a studio

mfs work in a place for 30 years and stop, and people act as if the sky is falling

when they just retire

[strange jetty]

something soemthing passage of time

[woeful geyser]

like, we had that with nintendo a couple days ago

2 bigger names "left the studio" and people where acting as if thats proving that nintendo is on its downfall now

when the guys where in their mid 60s and just finished a project lol

[strange jetty]

being upset when your favorite corporation got some changes is cringe mkay

https://tenor.com/view/mmmkay-mr-mackey-south-park-alright-okay-gif-19580399

[woeful geyser]

its so weird that there is always such a outrage over that stuff

like, if you ever worked a job, you should know that people come and go regularly lol

[strange jetty]

im that dude at work

i have been through many jobs

:))

tbf it was still in the same field

[main mulch]

watched the cinematic again, they should just let the arcane beyblade rip

golden oppotunity to get players in by making a wow animated series at this point

[bitter lion]

https://tenor.com/view/beavisandbutthead-mtv-party-hard-rock-gif-6138206

[wise wagon]

this'll be the death of me (im not using challenge cards, thats cheating)

[bitter lion]

Those 50k sellers I felt were too much. 25k felt like 'idiot and their money were soon parted money'

[rich meadow]

https://x.com/ivussyx/status/2016697664105054576?s=46&t=YKaisWqFkCTf8y-DfuEaHw

Ivy (@ivussyx)

Can't wait for the big "Elune is a Void Lord" reveal in Midnight!

X · Jan 29, 2026, 2:19 AM

Thoughts?

[long ice]

I want Elune to actually be Lunar Princess Ranni

so I can be her consort in two games

[woeful geyser]

people should look up what a eclipse is

[oak tartan]

Elune was azeroths little misshaped twin and now sits in the moon

https://tenor.com/view/kuato-total-recall-scary-gif-13933098

Maybe not so ugly

[neon glen]

elune is sailor moon

[random nest]

assa or sub for mythic dimensius? i havent logged in for a few months and im a bit out of the loop

[woeful geyser]

dimmi goes down in like

3min

[random nest]

not with my guild

xd

[woeful geyser]

the raid is a absolute joke now, the tuning fucked it HARD lmao

[inland gale]

i think sub is doing more rn

[fast mist]

Do we get new talents in Midnight?

[tough swallow]

yes

the apex talents unlock on your way to max level

which you don't have access to during the pre patch

[noble kestrel]

when moon not visible? it evil. Gone forever. No other explaination.

[haughty kelp]

guys vote me for ambassador

[unborn ether]

If i'm crafting my own weapons, is there a middle ground stats for using in both assa and sub?

sub wanting haste verse, assa wanting crit mast right ?

[faint bough]

Idk if it has changed at all but assa was typically fairly even on secondary stats so like not as big of a delta between them

[unreal coyote]

Does anyone know if there are high resolution still shots of the rogue from the housing trailer?

[rotund patrol]

https://blizzard.gamespress.com/en/World-of-Warcraft under "World of Warcraft Midnight - Coming Home Cinematic Stills"

[cold grove]

this one goes hard

[oak tartan]

This looks too good for outlaw

[simple kelp]

yeah the cinematic goes really hard... rogue meta confirmed

[mellow pilot]

Rogue housing meta confirmed

[tough swallow]

i am unsure what ability this is

[tough swallow]

this needs to be backstab, right?

[plush dune]

she is using swords

[tough swallow]

^ this could be:

• Mutilate
• Ambush
• Coup de Grace
• Blade Rush
• Shadowstrike
  I need to look up animations in game

[plush dune]

but also all rogues can use swords now so it can still be any spec

[tough swallow]

moment

[plush dune]

i mean surely its just dfa right

she literally teleports above the shade before slashing down on it

[unreal gulch]

Pretty much looks like dfa ye

[tough swallow]

could be vanish-strike too

but dfa would be cool too

[neon glen]

this is a new spell for the hinted arcane trickster 4th spec

[plush dune]

[tough swallow]

hmm, this looks like shadowstrike

[cold grove]

its new tank spec

we getting

arcane trickster would go hard tho

ngl

[tough swallow]

could be evis tbh, evis looks similar

[cold grove]

i think they just went with a flow, that has nothing to do with any spell in the game

LOL

[tough swallow]

but its funny to find spells that would fit

[short vector]

that blizzard survey where they propose a rogue tank spec

kinda weirdge

could be neat

[cold grove]

if we can have a a int, dh

we can have a int rogue

for arcane trickster

[plush dune]

the glowing green canteen was obviously full of healing juice

healer rogue confirmed

[cold grove]

throwing crimson vials

or running arround giving people pots

[tough swallow]

i think thats the sword

[cold grove]

"here drink this"

[plush dune]

it is yeah

doesnt sheath on back though

#transmog message i (with the help of the rest of the transmog channel) put together the closest approximation to what shes wearing that i believe you can get in game

they took a lot of creative liberties with her armor but its close-ish

[tough swallow]

the closest dagger would eb this

but it has not enough wobble in the blade

[mellow pilot]

@tough swallow

[mellow pilot]

Oh didn't notice you've answered already

[plush dune]

Its ok you did it better

[cold grove]

for unrelated reasons

this will be my new mog in midnight

[tough swallow]

nice

[rotund patrol]

echoing reprimand

[tough swallow]

i needed a reference iimage ^^

[cold grove]

pretty close

[sick finch]

was thinking we will have valeera on that vid

and the animation was more about hots vibe than world of warcraft

[mellow pilot]

As bel said, they made some changes to actual existing items, but overall the set made was the closest one could get

[tough swallow]

hmm let me see

[noble kestrel]

Those swords don't really exist in the game but every other item (more or less) does. Also I believe it's DfA and also a Sub rogue 'cos Sub rogues are cool

Would've been cooler if it was a rogue tank spec.....

[mellow pilot]

I'd return to wow

If tank rogue was announced

[noble kestrel]

Writing an email right now

[mellow pilot]

It would solve the tank* situation on my guild and I'd be playing my class

[rare solar]

Tbh we're the only class with 3 dps specs and no notable utility or buff

In a way it would help

[iron belfry]

tank rogue in SOD was cool, at least how much i played

felt refreshing

[fast quiver]

A 4th spec as tank, and a pirate themed hero talent tree.

[rare solar]

Nah make the tank spec be old combat

So ppl stop crying about it

[iron belfry]

lol no, make it mostly fresh

they make too much money to just recycle specs

[rare solar]

That money goes into CEO payouts and stock buybacks

And you can never have enough money for those things

[iron belfry]

you can lock 10 ppl in a room to brainstorm a new spec for free

[rare solar]

Yes but who codes it

And animates it

And balances it

And so on

[iron belfry]

they, on the same salary of what they were doing previously.

[rare solar]

Not the 10 ethically sourced think tank members

[cloud badger]

the real question is

support or tank rogue

[young pike]

What do you guys think is the best way to mine crests to upgrade all this champion gear right now?

Delves?

[rare solar]

M+

[young pike]

But he has to be a certain level m+ Right?

It*

[meager totem]

its probably delves

[young pike]

Or can you trade the higher Crest for a lower one?

[mellow pilot]

You can

[meager totem]

if you can stomach it

[mellow pilot]

You can trade 45 lower for 15 higher

But you need the achievement that basically says "I don't need this type of crests anymore so I will now use them to get bigger crests"

[young pike]

Hmnn

Is it based on highest level item equipped?

Cuz I do have a few hero items

[rare solar]

You can always trade down

[mellow pilot]

I'm talking the opposite

[young pike]

Okay got to got it thank you

[mellow pilot]

Once you've upgraded every slot to the point you don't need that crest type anymore you get an achievement

You need the achievement to get the vendor option to trade smaller crests for bigger ones

[young pike]

That makes so much sense

Cuz I've been confused as hell looking at the trader window

[mellow pilot]

You probably only have the trade down options(?)

Like 15 carved for 15 weathered

Or 15 runed for 15 carved

[young pike]

Yeah exactly

Is there no way anymore to link your character? Like you used to be able to with it wow app?

[mellow pilot]

If you want to buy runed crests with carved crests, you need all the veteran items upgraded 8/8 and your champion items upgraded 4/8

(the ones equipped)

[young pike]

Awesome okay Right now I have all champion items with I think two or three hero items Plus the special Cape and belt.

But several of my champion items are 1/8

[mellow pilot]

Yeah upgrade those with carved until 4/8

You'll notice that 5/8 already asks for runed

[young pike]

Understood I really appreciate you thanks!

[mellow pilot]

[rich meadow]

https://x.com/skoll_shorties/status/2017029270715895855?s=46&t=YKaisWqFkCTf8y-DfuEaHw

Khono Chronos (@Skoll_Shorties)

Manifesting Rexxar for Delve Companion for Last Titan.

X · Jan 30, 2026, 12:17 AM

Wouldn’t be opposed to rexxar as the last titans delve companion 🔥

[sick finch]

rexxar supposed to be a lone wolf, only teaming with beast

not lore accurate

[rare solar]

We are the beasts

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-lobo-lobisomem-werewolf-lobisomem-pidao-gif-15820248166751002117

[trail stream]

!up

[ionic forum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1463210920976056351/dark.jpg

[wicked wolf]

What spec are you guys enjoying my the most in the pre patch for rogue? I’m out of my devourer (abusive) honeymoon and coming home

[tough swallow]

lovely pre patch event

randomly falling through the world, without even shadowstepping

need to do character unstuck to be able to login again

[rich meadow]

Happened to me but dying repeatedly on every accept rez 😭

[wicked night]

Does anyone know how long after making guide in wow it takes for it to show up in wowprogress/wowaudit?

do we have to do some bollox raid?

[delicate granite]

has anyone made any poison reminder addon, or just get gut

[prime juniper]

what exactly is the reason "normal" mousover macro no longer works but now I need to put the exists i nthere like this? /cast [@mouseover,exists][] Shadowstep

[next axle]

there is an option in settings mouseover cast u can set to abutton or leave it blank, anything u mouseover and press will work

[alpine hollow]

Do we need 3 different gear sets to play all 3 rogues specs? Or is there a lot of over lap

[remote parrot]

god i wish we got some meaningful buffs

rogue hasnt been meta in so long

[frosty trench]

are none of the specs performing well rn? (I've been on a wow break for almost a year now)

[fringe umbra]

Rogue has been very good throughout tww

[remote parrot]

they are not dogshit, but i meant cant we be get buffed to demo lock level (god tier)

[frosty trench]

oh i see. I wanna come back for Midnight release, are all 3 specs equal rn? or too soon to tell?

[fringe umbra]

If the raid hasnt come out yet its too early, and generally even then its probably too early since they do big tunings after the first/second week

[frosty trench]

Thank you

[remote parrot]

there is a lot of time left before release, but in modern wow no class is really bad that its unplayable. Whatever you want to play, you can.

[molten radish]

I’m from the future. Below is the final sub build that will be released prior to xpan launch.

• Secret tech REWORKED to be a 2 part combo with a 6 second max window between the two presses. ST1 does physical damage, ST2 does immediate clone damage. ST2 duplicates all shadow damage after ST1 initial press.

• Secret tech now has no CD. Is only usable during shadow dance and only ONCE during each shadow dance

• Rupture pruning reverted

• Rupture replicating shadows revert and combined with new replicating shadows

• Black powder short cd (~8s) that leaves 3 clones that replicate your next rupture and/or eviscerate. Dmg/duration of rupture or eviscerate based on combo pts spent

• Lashe macabre made more rewarding, talent damage increased by 10% w/ each application and gives stacking 3% versatility buff, expires w/ shadow dance

• Dark brew reverted. "Rupture does shadow damage, all shadow damage increased by 10%".

• Goremaw's bite removed

I must return to the future. I will post again some time. GL friends.

[plush dune]

didnt get any attention when you posted it in sub so decided to copy paste it here huh

[molten radish]

I’m in a time rift posted it here first

Posting it in sub to be ignored there next

[sharp vigil]

which specs are better rn for each one of raid and m+?

[sour patrol]

Can't really say since Midnight isn't out.
Unless you mean currently

[sharp vigil]

yea currently

[molten radish]

Sub is best by far in both rn

[frozen kernel]

So I have come to a conclusion that people in wow are either rich or broke and no inbetween and taking 2-3k for a craft is either worthless money or insulting, no inbetween

[surreal agate]

Yep

[bright otter]

and here I am paying 5k for every craft on my main....

[oak tartan]

It's 1111

[iron belfry]

did they just blocked us from hiding dmg numbers?

/console floatingCombatTextCombatDamage 0 no longer works

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1qqttow/cant_disable_floating_combat_damage_numbers/

apparently they changed the cvars for it

[grim python]

Wow floating combat text back in the days literally told you 1 combat point; 2 combo points and so on. I dont know if that was the case still, because I used a weak aura to track my combo points, but now its gone. So what I am supposed to do now? Do I need to track them via this ugly thing?

as I am Elvui user, this is even worse:

[iron belfry]

you can track them with WangBar

!ui

[ionic forum]

Rogue Guides:
WoWhead: https://www.wowhead.com/classes#rogue
Icy Veins: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/class-guides
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides

[iron belfry]

go into a spec channel and do UI

[grim python]

thanks

[faint bough]

WANGBAR

[ancient copper]

maybe ive been gone for too long. But has something changed with the loot system? Or a bug? Im getting plate items from M+ dungeons?

[bright otter]

probably warbound

[iron belfry]

you get warbound plate items

for alts

[ancient copper]

aaah, that sucks. No way to turn that off?

[meager totem]

its ... extra

[bright otter]

nope that's just extra loot

[ancient copper]

aah just extra, ok then its np

[bright otter]

you get it as a bonus to normal loot if you get both ofc

[wraith citrus]

dear fellow rogues is there a macro that uses Tott always on the tank ? mine is broken

[fringe umbra]

There was a weakaura, but you know...

[meager totem]

[wraith citrus]

thats why i ask XD

[bright otter]

could copy his name in to a cast macro

[cerulean ice]

heyhey, bit more of a interface question/issue. My edit-mode save is greyed out and can't change anything of my UI. I re-installed the game and disabled all addons, but still no luck. Anyone had this problem aswel?

[iron belfry]

i use mouseover macro for tricks and just send it when necessary

[wraith citrus]

sounds like the best option yeah dare to paste it here ? i am lazy

[iron belfry]

#showtooltip Tricks of the Trade
/cast [@mouseover] Tricks of the Trade

[wraith citrus]

arigatou

[bright otter]

or you play trickster for 30 min tricks

[wraith citrus]

60 mins

[bright otter]

even better

[little oracle]

oof

[iron belfry]

lol they changed the icon to sarkareth trinket. a bit unecessary but hey

[novel cipher]

I kinda miss anshul

[sour patrol]

My proposed Warband for Midnight, thoughts?

[iron belfry]

decent, you got mage so you win for now

[novel cipher]

Thought hadn't even crossed my mind

[iron belfry]

can we solo DF raids yet ?

[woeful geyser]

people can tame a DF raid boss on hunters, so i gues you can do it now?

[sour patrol]

Yeah, the hydra thing in Abberus is tameable

[iron belfry]

well i gave it a try its doable. intermission on gnarlroot takes forever you need to burn all the roots yourself

[sour patrol]

Oh really

[iron belfry]

i killed 3 bosses, they take a while to die but you dont take too much dmg

im curious if i can kill fyrak or tindral

OK larodar got hands

i'll try at level 90 or bring a healer

maybe solo it with my tanks

[solar sun]

i wonder how many players blizz lost with these recent changes, I bet theres a signficant amount that just said 'nah' and dont login anymore.

[iron belfry]

my whole friends list is full of offline

not even a single person

[mellow pilot]

I've heard official reports of around 20 million players unsubscribing

Because fuck the random changes

[solar sun]

no shit?

[mellow pilot]

No shit man

[iron belfry]

royal is troll xD

[solar sun]

so maybe like 2 players than in the official reports, as if bliz would ever post numbers

they gonna hide all that

[cold grove]

20 mil

[mellow pilot]

If you think making the classes feel easier will make a significant amount of players quit... You're delusional

[cold grove]

So whole playerbase died

[past yoke]

housing was more positive than the pruning was negative 100%

[mellow pilot]

Yep

[iron belfry]

if wow had 20 mil players they woul tell everyone in the world

[cold grove]

Housing got wow back to 20mil

[solar sun]

or youre delustional if you think the changes made the classes feel easier, could be that too

[past yoke]

no they are definetely easier

[iron belfry]

a lot of ppl dont login because they cba with their UI and also there's 0 reason to do any content now

we'll see how it is during launch , but the game is far from dead

[solar sun]

well thats true, you can just hold 1 button down now to do the entire rotation. You dont even have to bring your finger off the button, perfect for when they announce xbox release

[mellow pilot]

That's mainly for casual players that don't care about rotations and perfect gameplay in the first place