wow-general

[mellow pilot]

[mild wasp]

losing gcds in dance or holding when you shouldn't is gg

it's also notable that in really early prog or very high keys assa is noticeably squishier than sub and outlaw

so ur thinking about not dying more often

but if ur not doing like 17s/18s or ~WR50 raiding it's not that big of a deal

[mellow pilot]

Words of wisdom

[hearty fog]

assi is also much slower than sub/outlaw

sub you move around at 160% MS most of the time

and outlaw you basically have perma sprint

[lapis marten]

is which spec is the hardest

🤔

[eternal star]

Loutaw

[unreal gulch]

Succession Ninja

[dire tulip]

Is there any discord for classic wow rogues?

[meager totem]

pinned in #classic-discussion

[sour patrol]

Had a Resto Shammy complain I wasn't using Evasion enough.
I try to save it for somewhat nasty magic damage, jeez.

[sour patrol]

I did a Cinderbrew +10 on my Druid

[unreal gulch]

You can run enough vers just fine on sin and deathstalker is inherently making sin tankier, as it adds more use-cases to the def CDs that are rather limited otherwise. That aside, sub and sin have the same tools if you dont count dance DR, which is unreliable at best since you wont use dance for any DR purposes

Outlaw is the only spec with a strong advantage in survivability

[hazy halo]

They reused the Achievment from back when you needed all 15s for it and yea... Probably was bold to assume they would change the text or so

[barren flame]

Is single target in the bleed build described anywhere? I feel like I do OK in AoE but often fall way behind in ST

[hazy halo]

On wowhead you can check Bleed build and look up both aoe and singeltarget rotation. Whispyr i think made also a video about it if you like that form better.

[sour patrol]

Same with this one? Because I got both

[hazy halo]

Yea same for that one. That stuff got scuffed when they changed the key scaling and achievements to rio instead of the key hight

[barren flame]

Cheers, think its the pooling part to keep me above 150 energy that I fudge up

[sullen helm]

does the loot from Bountiful Coffer in delves scale up to tier 11 or is it capped at tier 8

[exotic abyss]

if I do one mythic boss and one HC boss

Will it be Myth or HC that shows up there

[oak tartan]

It will be hc

Or it will be nothing because you didn't kill 2 bosses of a single difficulty

[exotic abyss]

Is there any way to see what stats it is on the Minituare Roulette Wheel this week

Cause it changes every week no?

[oak tartan]

It's random when it drops

[zinc ether]

It's not a weekly thing, it's diff every single drop. So my group abd your group won't be the same.

[unreal gulch]

Funfact

I dropped one with high vers low mastery, later dropped the same one again and had that same one in vault this week

[inland gale]

Pooling is a minimal gain and if you don’t do it it’s less than half a percent or so. So I just spam

[thorny valley]

only pool before kingsbane or just like give a 1-2 count in between mutilates you should be fine

[barren flame]

Oh, cheers

[heavy niche]

Yo rogue enjoyers, I want to switch out to another class as I do not enjoy sub anymore. What gives similar vibes to rogue/what alts do you enjoy? I was looking at survival

[mellow pilot]

Warrior

Zugzug no thinking clap pow KaBuM

Big axes

YELL

Charge CDs die BCS aggro

Ah.... Truly an experience

[rare solar]

The other rogue specs

[heavy niche]

Is outlaw very different from bfa?

[main peak]

pretty diff id say

[static parcel]

lmao EU servers are down, tonight's priory was cursed, first 14, the heal got dc-d on first pack, then the servers just crashed down in the 13

[unkempt tartan]

⚰️

[vital geode]

yo eu servers down

kekw

[wispy solar]

don not lol im in que...

[unkempt tartan]

small technical difficulties are to be expected from a small indie company, give them time

[stoic ermine]

and when the queue finishes you wont be able to connect

[solid mortar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1l1uqgv/servers_down/

[mellow pilot]

Yes, they are

[upper veldt]

AEYOO!?!?!?!

[stoic ermine]

dont get your hope up you get to 1 and you dont get in

[unkempt tartan]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/game/status/eu

[stoic ermine]

yea the realms are fine its battle net that isnt

[unkempt tartan]

a bold statement, second only to "someone has declined the invite, you've been returned to the front of the queue"

[upper veldt]

back in

[stoic ermine]

crazy indie company fixes fast

[worldly forge]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, now i understand how you got Pregnant

[mellow pilot]

LOL

[mighty hatch]

https://x.com/DarthDecisive/status/1929638352757620815

Darth Decisive (@DarthDecisive)

The concept art for Hearthstone's new Lost City of Un'Goro goes HARD

I LOVE the Tortollan armor and mutations so much! And the undead tar dinos????

Peak

X · Jun 2, 2025, 8:36 PM

i want turtle rogue now

[fiery coyote]

Any destros?

Did the may 27th tuning actually get delivered to the game? I think not or only partially

[hazy mantle]

!up

[ionic forum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[thin ferry]

any idea how i can hide or move that big spell names with plater?

[sour patrol]

Is the Dastardly Duos thing just a fun insignificant event for a toy and crappy alt gear or is there a point?

[mellow pilot]

Fun

[harsh yew]

Timegated fun

Can’t have too much fun at once

[unreal gulch]

Bad for your heart

[sullen helm]

Someone said the dastardly duos thing is useful for leveling alts

But time walking is today too so can rush it through there

[sour patrol]

Which TW is it?

[warm steppe]

will the new belt be considered an embelishment?

[worldly forge]

no

[peak cradle]

If I got this one
do I need to buy / would it be better to buy the PvP one?

[mellow pilot]

is the pvp ilvl higher?

if not, then you're gucci

[peak cradle]

no it scales to 684 also

[fervent ibex]

you get free weapons anyway, but doesn't matter much

[north brook]

guys random question. if i extend my mythic raid lockout will i be able to join someone else that has the same extension? Cause i'm not sure if someone from our group extended.

[bold vapor]

best rogue spec for stix?

[inland gale]

I think it’s outlaw

[peak cradle]

took one dagger and one sword, so I wanted to know if I need to buy a new 2nd arena dagger

[mellow pilot]

For assa at least you'd need a 2nd dagger yes

[unborn whale]

Hi, excuse me why I can't transmog my two daggers into the legendary daggers Tirosh and Golad? It only lets me transmog my off-hand. The main hand looks like any other dagger. :C

[mellow pilot]

Golad MH
Tiriosh OH

Right click the dagger when selecting it on the tmog

Choose the right option

Yw

@unborn whale

[static epoch]

actually a question about mogs, too
can you mog sub artifact dagger appearance onto assa and vice versa?

[ember nest]

yea some things can get messed up but mostly yes

[static epoch]

huh cool
might need to get sub daggers then, I think there was a skin I liked

[mellow pilot]

Yes, it's a dagger - dagger situation

The only weird one is outlaw.
You can only mog swords to other one handed weapons (mace, sword, axe, fist weapon) but if you play outlaw, you can transmog both your weapons to artifact appearances (swords) even if you use a dagger OH

[fervent ibex]

Oh, nah. The pve dagger would suffice. As long as you’ve got 2 total

The stats were decent on it as well iirc so it’s fine

[left crow]

I think technically you only mog the mainhand but get both weapons. It's like prot pala, no need to mog the shield.

[mellow pilot]

At least for us, only the main hand has the option to Tmog to artifact appearances

[unreal gulch]

Depends on if you select it as the artifact appearance mog, which is only possible for the corresponding spec, or if you mog it as the weapon appearance

So ye, what you said fits that

[solemn quest]

based announcement @glad harness

[nimble shoal]

I really love it along with the icon change. 🩵

[mellow pilot]

Pretty much every class discord did the same!

[noble kestrel]

Big fan of it

[warm pagoda]

The druid icon is fire

10/10 idea and execution

[noble kestrel]

Monk and Druid are really cool

[warm pagoda]

I'm only in this and the druid ones, I may need to go server icon browsing

[peak cradle]

anyone got an idea what comes near to this "style"? is there a "mog" for it already?

[long ice]

Valeera hngggggg

my muse, my flame

[mellow pilot]

Also no

Not yet

[upper veldt]

we all hope for it

[rare solar]

You gotta cook something for yourself sadly

Or look for inspiration online

[mellow pilot]

https://x.com/MrGMYT/status/1930254708205117672?s=19

MrGM (@MrGMYT)

Old Items are scaling up in Dastardly Duos

X · Jun 4, 2025, 1:25 PM

@noble kestrel

[plush dune]

lmao

[noble kestrel]

lmao

[zealous halo]

lmao

[noble kestrel]

time to throw on golad and the cloak and whatever else I can find

[mellow pilot]

Legion legendaries too

[weary moon]

fangs of father would go crazy

[mellow pilot]

With triple stats

Unfortunately the bonus from them is set legacy

Meanwhile the warglaives one isn't

[tough swallow]

time to undust my warglaives

[warm pagoda]

Polished content

[peak cradle]

I went for a rogue prisoner mog, stabbing with Screwdivers 😄

[mellow pilot]

That's a pretty good theme

[noble kestrel]

That goes well together

I'm sorry HOW much versatility?

[ember nest]

a bit

check maalus

it is silly

[mellow pilot]

Hold up

Is that actually giving that much %???

[noble kestrel]

lmao 117% damage done

LET'S FIND OUT

[mellow pilot]

LOOOOOL

[noble kestrel]

wait did this LITERALLY just hotfix it

I think they literally just hotfixed it

They saw me going into it to have fun and went "nah mate"

wait it's back

[mellow pilot]

You're playing with our emotions!!

[noble kestrel]

It seems like this just.. breaks the timewalking scaling for some reason

If I equip it, nothing scales lmao

[mellow pilot]

So you can go 680

And demolish everything

[noble kestrel]

MAYBE

uh

yeah

lmao

For some reason that trinket completely breaks the scaling and I am now fully unscaled

[mellow pilot]

How fast can you demolish everything now xDDD

[noble kestrel]

It's very strange. It flips between scaled states and lags the game.

Equipping 3 old items, swapping to new, equipping 1 old item, and swapping to actual gear broke the scaling entirely

[mellow pilot]

This is why we love patch days

Not even the beta testers (America) thought of this

[errant jasper]

i'm swapping to Rogue next tier, and in anticipation of the swap, how challenging is raid leading as Sub vs Ass?

[noble kestrel]

Are you typing or talking as RL?

[mellow pilot]

Assa is the chill gameplay low apm

[noble kestrel]

I've done both as both. And Assa is a little easier to type and RL as, but Sub has moments of it too. Both are fine to RL on over voice though. You just have to get used to being in melee and possibly with a giant boss blocking your view.

So you gotta pan and check on people.

[errant jasper]

Speaking, like making calls, etc.

[noble kestrel]

Same as any class

[mellow pilot]

Anything but outlaw

You can't talk while BRRRRRRRRR

[noble kestrel]

Just have good raid awareness and you'll be fine.

[errant jasper]

yeah i've raid led as fury, and UDK before from the melee POV. and ass seems fine, but maybe as sub i can just focus for the dance windows then i can afk call lol

again, we have not idea what is good next tier

but im just starting the gearing process (slowly)

[noble kestrel]

You can still call while dancing. Just gotta have good raid awareness.

I raid lead pugs via text as Sub and it's absolutely fine.

[zealous halo]

Assa is probably one of the chilliest spec in raid

Out of all classes I mean

Especially this tier

[robust nacelle]

OG golganeths

loved it

[noble kestrel]

Yeah, it ruled. I really liked that trinket and upgrading it every week

[steep dock]

show em lads

[noble kestrel]

hah

you are small

this is true not going outside power.

[steep dock]

hmm

[noble kestrel]

I will never log off

[zealous halo]

bro im so young

..

👶

one day i will catch up

[noble kestrel]

Hell yeah

[weary moon]

2k2 days is insane

[orchid skiff]

I'm a casual, I guess

[nimble iris]

jesus christ almighty

you are a actually living in wow?

[noble kestrel]

Maybe!

[stoic lake]

bro is one of the people with trade bots setup

frfr

[timber sigil]

That is absolutely insane

[ember nest]

try to dm mods instead of ban evade

but they have their reasons

[zealous halo]

you got banned because both your accounts have terrible profile pictures

deserved imo

holy shmolly

[weary moon]

[zealous halo]

its even uglier in big

[meager totem]

youre not getting unbanned lmao

[shell hill]

Hi admin here

This you?

[faint bough]

imo shouldve been banned when he bragged about r1 last season despite clearly paying for a boost

[quasi galleon]

Bros caught in 4k asking stupid questions like "y ban"

[shell hill]

also lashga if you're trying to contact a mod, typically in discords they are located at the top of the member list, and not in general chat

just like as an overall kinda standard thing

[safe citrus]

absolutely decimated holy shit

https://tenor.com/view/sting-wwe-sprite-wrestling-kid-gif-7940631

[faint bough]

maybe you can buy a new discord account to get back into ravenholdt?

[ember nest]

dont encourage ban evasion pls

[safe citrus]

evasion is so bad it doesn’t even work for bans… fix this stupid button

[ember nest]

aaaaaa they fixed the cool things

now that i wanted to make a video

of dastardly

[safe citrus]

seems readily apparent to me

[faint bough]

i mean the dude is currently ban evading with a second account in this chat so i assume that my joke wasn't really the genesis of that

[dusty oracle]

This is why I dislike politics

smh

people say dumb stuff and even dumber stuff happens from it

[shell hill]

yeah good one maybe I use wrong word

[zealous halo]

admin going on a power trip again.. cba man

[shell hill]

anyway, ban evasion is no appeal so uh

!ban @grave kayak lashga ban evasion

[plush dune]

[safe citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/mattingly-coach-point-boom-throw-gif-16663431

[shell hill]

whatchu mean by that

[plush dune]

the fucking double tap

[dusty oracle]

what i said under it

[ember nest]

it is mostly from their own mind no politics involved mostly

[shell hill]

I mean it's not political though

it's just like

[ember nest]

some cultures do enable it but it

[shell hill]

being inclusive

[ember nest]

not the place to talk about

[dusty oracle]

yeah but they make it political

so

[shell hill]

yeh I guess

[eternal star]

seems like a ban evasion master right there

[mighty hatch]

I wonder if he’s gonna leave fh

Cause

[safe citrus]

I’m sure the DH discord is having a normal one over it

place is cursed

[mighty hatch]

Actually?

It’s been tame so far

More talk about kissing your homies than bigotry

[safe citrus]

love that for them

also, love kissing the homies

[warm pagoda]

are they really your homies if you can't give them a little smooch occasionally?

[viscid lark]

DH discord is not as off the rails as I was always told

[ember nest]

they did have someone giving birth or what discord was that

[silver finch]

Is this rainbow shit for pride month? Or was the logo always like this?

[fringe umbra]

Yes

[silver finch]

Someone should tell the warlocks

[warm pagoda]

Been like this for years now

[silver finch]

AM I RIGHT

[warm pagoda]

Idk why everyone's suddenly noticing

It's always been that logo

[silver finch]

CUZ YOURE A BIGOT IF YOU DONT RAINBOW COLOR YOUR DISCORD LOGO

[safe citrus]

surely someone with 1776 in their handle and that picture will have a nuanced and respectful position

there it is

[silver finch]

AM I RIGHT GUYS

Warlocks out here

They really out here

[safe citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[fringe umbra]

Aint nothing wrong with supporting your homies

[silver finch]

Yall do anything for february?

[ember nest]

i got some ice cream

[silver finch]

What kind

Birthday cake?

[ember nest]

ben and jerry's chunky monkey

[silver finch]

Ben and jerrys 👎

Chunky monkey used to be BIS tho

[warm pagoda]

Ain't nothing wrong with being the big spoon for your homies either, as a treat

They ain't your homies if you can't do that

[silver finch]

So Im not a homie if I dont spoon with dudes outside of heat conservation in a survival situation

(Dont ask)

[final quartz]

[silver finch]

https://tenor.com/view/cold-dumb-and-dumber-jim-carrey-gif-4531283

Dont like Jom Carey ipsa?

Or Jeff Daniels?

[safe citrus]

here’s your reply, real american patriot

[silver finch]

What?

Thats what I thought

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493156996644864001/1371025475870396446/togif-1.gif

[mellow pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-read-vibes-book-learn-gif-9414353344722825771

[silver finch]

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-cat-gif-2806019528914214031

[novel cipher]

Got another live one

Why are the rainbow yappers in wowgeneral today?

[silver finch]

What are you talking about

[silver finch]

Thats what I thought

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493156996644864001/1371025475870396446/togif-1.gif

[shell hill]

he's talking about how after we changed the logo there's been a pretty large amount of people being cringe about it

[silver finch]

I thought it was funny the warlock server is right next to yalls on my discord without changing their logo cuz warlock

[shell hill]

yeh some of the discords don't change their logo

the druid one is really creative I thought it was cool

they put the colors on each of the claws

[silver finch]

Is there a color for hetero folks among the conglomerate of groups

[shell hill]

there is, it's a flag of alternating black and white stripes that was originally created as a symbol for the counter-movement against pride

[silver finch]

Couldnt imagine putting that much effort into countering this stuff lol

Was actually curious if one ever got added for full inclusivity

Ive probably seen like 3 of patterns

[shell hill]

the whole "straight pride" thing historically has been pretty bogged down by bad faith actors and filled with mockery. One of the biggest things was a straight pride parade in boston in like 2018 or 2019

and the people organizing that made brad pitt their mascot

it was uh

very strange

[mighty hatch]

Remember

Super straight flag

[neon glen]

this is very pretty (also has some 💅 vibe)

[shell hill]

makes my rainbow daggers looks like fingerpaint

some of the artwork this year is really insane

the official wow discord doesn't look too insane

but then it spins and shit

super cool

[neon glen]

til there is an official wow disc. Is that just the ingame colour picker?

[shell hill]

no clue but it's sick and I love it

they changed all their rule headers to be rainbow as well

this sort of thing

[neon glen]

very nice I wonder if people there got buttmad over that too

[silver finch]

Aint it nice to be free to be whoever you want

https://tenor.com/view/ready-player-one-bigfoot-monster-truck-driving-bigfoot-monster-truck-gif-6388619949288647838

[shell hill]

talking to a bunch of other classcord mods I think just the class discords alone have banned a combined 200-300 since the start of the week

[neon glen]

that's... sad. even if it's across all class discords which makes it "less bad"

never too late for some spring cleaning though

[silver finch]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-rogue-one-star-destroyer-devastator-gif-21042471

Discord mods entering chat

[safe citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/murica-walmart-fat-buggy-obese-gif-5701786

[silver finch]

Yeah fuck the whole country! Yeah!!!

[fervent ibex]

The official WoW and the WeakAura servers have also been working overtime it seems

[silver finch]

[fervent ibex]

[fervent ibex]

[shell hill]

I don't even want to know what the official servers and reddit servers are going through

[fervent ibex]

It’s truly wild to see how many people are so ignorant

And like 95% of them have 5-25 messages in whatever server they’re in, from 2-5 years ago

[silver finch]

You can be ignorant of something and not be an asshole

[neon glen]

what's baffling is that I don't think they don't know that what they're about to type is dumb/bannable, they just have no self filter

but maybe it's a waste of energy trying to understand that behaviour

[silver finch]

Yeah Idk I get trolled for my “pro america” profile and I just dont give a fuck

https://tenor.com/view/ready-player-one-bigfoot-monster-truck-driving-bigfoot-monster-truck-gif-6388619949288647838

[shell hill]

I mean as long as you're not hateful or whatever you can be as pro america as you want who cares

that's the whole point

[silver finch]

Yeah except its always okay to troll america apparently

[weary moon]

[silver finch]

[weary moon]

[silver finch]

[somber spruce]

america has many advantages

like not eating baked beans for breakfast

or speaking french

[novel cipher]

not having to say 'sorry' for literally every infraction

even those that are completely imaginary

[hearty fog]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1303494538488184912/1307146008467341343/attachment-68.gif

[silver finch]

Where you from

[hearty fog]

https://tenor.com/view/brent-my-hero-aus-top-guy-gif-17971844794065873200

[wary knoll]

sometimes the trash takes itself out - if a pride icon makes you mad enough to go full edgelord, chances are you are insufferable in general

[safe citrus]

we love self-reporters

[robust verge]

any discord channels of m+ communities ? 3.6k+-

[rose basin]

My girlfriend asked "isnt a straight pride parade just traffic?"

[mighty hatch]

can we go 200?

[silver finch]

Bro no shot youre only warning me

Thats actually beyond cringe

[warm pagoda]

Both were warned

[mighty hatch]

i got warned too

[silver finch]

Okay good

[worldly forge]

He warned @mighty hatch too

[silver finch]

And ipsa dude wants a fight

Fresh sheets for bed time

W

[shell hill]

it's not gonna be enough

oh

maybe

maybe

[warm pagoda]

Do a 500 purge

As a treat

[shell hill]

eh we can do the rest by hand

[safe citrus]

ayo?

[shell hill]

good enough

okay

wow-general

talk about how shit the belt is or whatever idk

[warm pagoda]

Fuck the belt

[mighty hatch]

I SAW

[safe citrus]

oh boy, i sure do love world of warcraft

[mighty hatch]

EARLY SIMS ON HAVOC

ITS SO SHIT

[warm pagoda]

Wacky ass catch up item

[steep dock]

belt isnt out right?

[ember nest]

the belt is not that good

[steep dock]

[warm pagoda]

nah

[ember nest]

just can go to 700 ilvl

zzzzzzzz

[inland gale]

they will buff the belt to be good

and we all know it

dont gaslight yourselves

[warm pagoda]

And then we wear it until next expansion

And I despair

[inland gale]

they wanna force us all into delves

[mighty hatch]

ya obviously its gonna get buffed

but man its so shit rn

for every spec i saw a sim for

[worldly forge]

Does the Belt keep my pants up? or do they still fall down?

[warm pagoda]

I was doing them anyway why are they making it mandatory. If it's mandatory it becomes less fun

[mighty hatch]

what ilvl do my pants have to be

for the belt to be bis?

[steep dock]

666

[mighty hatch]

but thats not max ilvl

am i being trolled?

[hearty fog]

only if you tie an onion to your belt

[novel cipher]

it's the style of the time

[silver finch]

https://tenor.com/view/big-poop-gif-15137965800685566241

Brawndo Swaggins

https://tenor.com/view/friends-cowboys-primus-wynonas-big-brown-beaver-gif-14412638

[novel cipher]

so glad there's bottoms representation in this discord

[inland gale]

Yeah when it feels like chores it’s way worse

[silver finch]

Is outlaw a good spec for pvp at all?

I havent played retail in so long

[warm pagoda]

May be worth asking down in the PvP channel, may get more answers there

[neon glen]

why do you think the spec is called "sub"?

[warm pagoda]

We have sub, we have ass, lots of representation

[novel cipher]

[noble kestrel]

If you go into Duo's with a shirt or tabard on, the game now sets your iLevel to 1.

[warm pagoda]

Wait what, oh god

HOW DID THEY FUCK THIS UP SO MUCH

[upper veldt]

ass-ass-ination rogue

[noble kestrel]

Let me grab a screenshot

[warm pagoda]

[noble kestrel]

It now scales down to your lowest item equipped.

[warm pagoda]

[noble kestrel]

So if you take your shirt / tabard off? it goes back to 619. But if you have a shirt / tabard on? ilevel 1.

Which is honestly a novel bug and I'm pretty impressed.

A lot of people won't notice and will get one-shot by a mob 'cos they white hit for like, 2 - 3m lmao

[ember nest]

ahaha

get wolved

[neon glen]

good thing they delayed this content for over a month to make sure it released in a good state

[uncut iron]

https://tenor.com/bYXc2.gif

[mellow pilot]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/old-legendaries-no-longer-scale-up-in-dastardly-duos-new-bug-caps-players-at-377163?utm_source=discord-webhook

I blame @noble kestrel

[noble kestrel]

The new bug is way funnier.

[foggy goblet]

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[mellow pilot]

Agreed

[opal nest]

hello guys I am a new wow player and I want to learn to play rogue, any builds, videos and guides you recommend for noobies?

[mellow pilot]

Wowhead.com guides

Whispyr on YouTube

But mostly the written guide

!guides

[ionic forum]

Rogue Guides:
WoWhead: https://www.wowhead.com/classes#rogue
Icy Veins: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/class-guides
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides

[opal nest]

ok thanks

[cobalt torrent]

@zealous halo @eternal star

[eternal star]

Ngl

Double rogue warr on floodgates is way crazier

The fact that we one shotted it too was quite cool

[ember nest]

tell them skill diff

[left crow]

Is this broken or does it only show when I beat a million points?

[noble kestrel]

Relog and it should display the first one.

[left crow]

Yeah it does.

[oak tartan]

Saw some tank with 700k score

[zealous halo]

[dusky shore]

Is there any way to get mage food from the follower dungeons? every time I queue I dont get a mage in the group

[dusky shore]

Nvm, queuin as outlaw give me the mage, doesnt work with sub

[little oracle]

Could I ask why you need the mage food

I am so curious

[eager latch]

@little oracle Probably not for follower dungeons, but for visions lol.

[random pine]

if you craft a set slot with embellishment and you turn it into a tier set, does the embellishment stay or disappear

[fringe umbra]

You cant catalyse crafted gear

[willow mason]

Is it worth starting up keys now or is season almost over ?

[mellow pilot]

Do you have a goal?

[willow mason]

Just to gear up and do some 12s

[mellow pilot]

Then do it

:3

[warm pagoda]

Can't hurt getting gear to go into next season stronger

[steep dock]

Easier invs with score and ilvl

[pure lion]

Almost over? I believe we’re going to August until 11.2 😴

[willow mason]

Dang ok thanks !

[abstract echo]

you guys reckon they will disable these kind of ui weakauras once they start banning certain addons?

[woeful geyser]

blizz themself doesnt even really know what they want

they have a idea, and thats kinda it

[abstract echo]

right, i guess time will tell

Can't imagine playing rogue without something to track our buffs like I'm used to

[woeful geyser]

i mean

you cant

you cant track dots/debuffs and half of your buffs without 3rd Party tools

[fringe umbra]

I mean their intent is that the default UI should track all the things you need to track

[woeful geyser]

yeha

lets see how good they manage that

intent is good

the big thing will be how they actually do it in the end

[inland gale]

I'm gonna guess no, but maybe eventually

like they release it and it sucks but they figure it out like 4 patches later

[cyan spire]

any tried mythic sprocket w/o a lock? how bad is it?

[hazy halo]

Never tried. But you would need to run back to sprocket after every wipe with no soulstone no?

[fringe umbra]

Theres a soulstone type thing from renown

But yes without any of those you'd have somebody run again yes

[hazy halo]

Doesnt it have a 30min cd?

[fringe umbra]

Well yeah

But you have multiple people

[hazy halo]

Makes sense

[agile pond]

Would you be in favor of a new rogue spec called ratmancer?

The main dps ability is called rat attack

Pretty cool right?

[warm pagoda]

I wanna throw rats at people

[agile pond]

Ratslinger

[plush dune]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-attack-rat-attack-have-at-thee-gif-11648161592664583090

[mellow pilot]

i want a rogue ranged spec with bows

[agile pond]

No serious suggestion here, only dumb shit

[mellow pilot]

... fine

https://tenor.com/view/leave-me-alone-snubbed-ignore-bear-mad-gif-15466550

[agile pond]

I do like the idea of a bow ranged rogue spec, though it likely not here because hunter is kinda similar?

Honestly, i don't give a fuck, as long as it plays differently it's fine with me

Not every spec needs to stand out uniquely, we already have a few specs that kinda delve in the same aspects or themes

Like holy paladin or holy priest, are they really thematically so different at the end of the day?

[mellow pilot]

Easy: Both paladin and warrior can use a two handed sword right? But both are different in their own way!
Rogue bow spec could use poisoned arrows / shadow arrows theme

altough yes shadow arrows = Sylvanas basically

What if a mix of ranged + melee rogue? Like red mage in FF14

[agile pond]

Yea

I think the devs are probably getting too hung up on certain things, which is probably why we don't have a battlemage mage spec, because it would be kinda sorta similar to enhancement

Honestly, augmentation would have been a good opportunity to make a battlemage type spec

Not a fan of this support shit

[mellow pilot]

I'd actually be down to add a new contender to the trinity force, a REAL support meta

[plush dune]

https://tenor.com/view/brother-ew-ew-what-is-that-whats-that-brother-gif-14318384540422820315

[mellow pilot]

Something that ISNT aug

[plush dune]

Also rogue dual hand crossbow spec

[mellow pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/demon-hunter-gaming-crossbow-diablo-gif-3933319

[warm pagoda]

Ranged spec but you shoot rats with bows

The rats can also have bows

So they can also shoot even smaller rats

[orchid skiff]

it's rats all the way down

[misty prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/rogue-prio-rogue-glaives-wo-w-warcraft-gif-24491328

[woeful geyser]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/281279468180602881/1032776560408809532/6xorcx.gif

[worldly forge]

Go to bed sweetie. Take your pulls

[mellow pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/gman-half-life-half-life-minor-spelling-mistake-mistake-gif-4843710841262081243

[glacial knoll]

if i wanna level a character for MoP is it better is i go from 1-85 in Cata or 40 - 60 in SoD for the boost?

[worldly forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cyjspriv-gif-22644394

[fervent ibex]

SoD has nothing to do with regular classic

It’d have to be Cata->MoP

[plush dune]

you get a character boost for mop if you level in sod

from what ive been told

idk i dont play either

[fervent ibex]

Oh, fuck if I know

Same

[minor pond]

its from doiing some shit in the current sod raid like clearing it or whatever

idk i dont play it either either

[prime pike]

you get the 85 boost if you kill first boss of Scarlet Enclave on sod(Balnazzar)

[verbal trout]

Hey, does anyone know how to set in default ui to show you defensive on your portait? something like this

[mellow pilot]

thats probably an addon called..............

Bigdebuffs

[verbal trout]

thank you very much ❤️

thought you could do that aswell with omnicd but couldnt figure it out

[mellow pilot]

I've no idea. I've been using bigdebuffs since mop basically

really useful

[iron belfry]

you're gonna play assa outlaw or sub and you're gonna like it

[sour patrol]

[mighty hatch]

aww i missed a reunoir thesis

[eternal star]

Looks like betterblizzframes cuh

If bigdebuffs didnt work that is

[tiny forge]

Got my resilience today using a lot of the info gained lurking here! Thanks everyone.

[verbal trout]

bigdebuffs worked but i don’t know if betterblizzframes got that option, looked there as well (maybe missed)

[robust nacelle]

best i can give u is an outlaw hybrid

gunsblazing

grapple hooks and pistol shots and killing spree and all

imagine that in arena

but more ranged based

like replace ss to ps combo builder,broadside buff fires x3 the PS and killing spree actually hailstorms with bullets mfkers

put some rally shouts there,pirate flags,explosive barrels

outlaw becomes prime

now we only need a h@rny rogue dev to create all that

[nimble iris]

wasnt that gameplay for a while for outlaw? i dont remember when, but when we got like max combo points when pistol shooting

[zealous halo]

Ye right now

[nimble iris]

didnt play last 6-7 months, so wasnt sure 😄

[robust nacelle]

uve never ps replacing ss as a main builder

also BS never fired 3 shots was always more dmg

u are confused with wickers gameplay

[wicked night]

Just came back. How long is the grind for the ring and vision helm?

[mellow pilot]

ring is a few hours max

helm enchant a few runs

[wicked night]

Is it super worth doing the ring? I know it’s 700ilvl power wise etc but will I actually notice?

[left crow]

my google Fu is lacking, question: I seem to remember we get a higher chance for set in vault if we did not have set yet. Is this true? if so can this be gamed by vendoring hero track set for a better chance to get myth track?

[woeful geyser]

ngl that sounds like some myth

[mellow pilot]

It is basically bis until you have two 680+ rings

[left crow]

yeah probably why I can't find it. I guess some guildie once said it

tell you what I will vendor my hero shoulders tomorrow evening and report back here 🙂 item restoration ftw

[faint bough]

correlation != causation friend

[sour patrol]

What playing Rogue does to a MFer

[late carbon]

Anyone else trying to finish the Legion class hall quest chain to get the mount?

[plush dune]

[late carbon]

Standard

[woeful geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055196260329590874/1320668978732859402/big2.gif?ex=6847ec55&is=68469ad5&hm=51f06a498b7ae9062586bcc1e286c37398ebb097513e62eb61956f0d44d4be18&

[barren ledge]

is there a consolidated list somewhere of abilities that can be evasioned/cloaked for m+ and raid ? since sometimes stuff cant be removed or dodged

[glad harness]

We used to have one, but nobody wanted to help out to maintain it, so the best we have is pinned and covers vanishes for the most part

I take that back, its old as fuck and covers old content

Let me unpin that

[barren ledge]

lmao rip

a defensive one ig for raid would be helpful to most people but a m+ one would speed up alot of trial and error. is there a copy anywhere of an old version of the spreadsheet?

[glad harness]

Nothing we have is covering current content.

[barren ledge]

yeah thats fine i meant so i can try and steal the formatting and fill one out on my own for myself but if theres no copy thats okay

ty koffing <3

[sour patrol]

That's exactly what happened.
We skipped the first trio with his Goon Cage spell and pulled the mounted guy into the encounter.
He leaped in after throwing a glaive at the mounted guy and got smeared on the floor.

I was on my Druid so I was watching the mounted guy for his Enrage channel so I could Soothe it, and the tank was dead right as he cast it

[mighty hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-gif-2344071593813059019

average vdh fotm

[plush dune]

[sour patrol]

Had one in a ML who pulled weird, and the healer stopped healing him before Pummeler.

[hearty fog]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061586936533372948/1234765306547802135/rlp.gif

[upper veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-adorable-duckling-haha-classic-gif-17283485

[celest hawk]

rare banger https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kL0ClyIQZwk?feature=share

[late carbon]

Need some advice on Brann in delves. I thought mob health was higher when you set him as tank but I'm not seeing it change. Entered a delve and checked a mob's health, left the delve, went back in, changed Brann's role, checked the same mob's health and it was the same. Tried DPS, tank and healer...

[ember nest]

best brann as rogue is healer

dps you can get rolled sometimes by white swings

and tank is undoable

he just dies

[late carbon]

Tank was fine at lower tiers but now I'm trying 8s, he's very fragile

[ember nest]

yea tank is nono as rogue

i was doing 11s at like 640 ilvl with healer brann

[woeful geyser]

tank brann is only for healer

not for dps

[ember nest]

not even i let him do dps with my druid

[woeful geyser]

he literally gets a dmg buff if you heal him as a healer

[ember nest]

the caltrops truck mobs

[noble kestrel]

I run Brann as tank 'cos it means mobs have less HP and this makes it easier to burst them.

[ember nest]

and when he goes birdmode you know

havent tried tank for a while tho

[late carbon]

Thanks. I'll try some runs with him as healer

[noble kestrel]

He does like getting stuck in walls

[plush dune]

My favorite is him constantly kiting out of my jadefire stomp

[crimson elk]

hey guys for horrific visions, is Sub the best rogue spec for clearing it?

[mellow pilot]

you can swap specs during the run

i'd argue assa is actually the best on trash packs

and if you want, swap sub for bosses

[chrome arrow]

huh i never thought about that

[mellow pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-steve-carell-wink-gif-7720100

[obsidian saddle]

Rep gain bugged this morning. Nice

[stiff mulch]

hi, is it worth to craft anything without gilded crests ?

or should I just try to get to +8 and then craft?

[mellow pilot]

If you have nothing better, crafting without gilded is not bad

If you have the gold for eventual recrafts to gilded, why not

[stiff mulch]

you can "upgrade" the crafted weapon later to gilded version?

[mellow pilot]

yes

you can recraft every item to a higher ilvl

[stiff mulch]

thanx

do missives matter?

not mentioned in the guide

[mellow pilot]

"yes"

In theory, they do, since you're choosing which stats you're crafting the item with.

• Assassination doesnt really care much about stats as it does for ilvl. So just pick Crit/Mastery and go with it;
• Sub is kinda the same but they tend to not prioritize haste much, and versatility more iirc;
• Outlaw wants a weird haste cap and then vers iirc;

You'll be better informed in each spec channel

[stiff mulch]

I meant as in "do they matter at all" but maybe that would be a stupid question 😄 thank you

[left crow]

It's a gamble which stats you get. If you just craft a 645 and want to save a couple gold go lottery. You can always recraft it later and put a missive when upgrading to 658 etc

[mellow pilot]

i probably should have explained that if you dont use the missive, as @left crow said, the stats on the item will be random

[oak tartan]

are 8 mask visions as rogue like hardmode? i just pulled entire rooms as dh and didn't even lost hp, but as rogue i get meleed to near death by some random ass mobs

[noble kestrel]

Yeah, haha

[mellow pilot]

The first mistake was comparing yourself (rogue) to an hero class

[oak tartan]

i need to food after every mob pack, even with some bleed and run technique as bleed build assa

[mellow pilot]

if you're NA you got a new point to get on the talent thingies

iirc

might be helpful

https://www.wowhead.com/news/gift-of-the-titans-available-in-revisited-horrific-visions-with-weekly-reset-377203?utm_source=discord-webhook

[oak tartan]

maybe

[mellow pilot]

"In Horrific Visions, defeating enemies has a chance to grant Gift of the Titans, increasing haste and movement speed by 60% and reducing Sanity loss from all sources by 100% for 20 sec."

[noble kestrel]

They white hit for so much

It's a consistent issue in so much solo content lately and I'm gonna bet a lot that they've still got that fucked Delve scaling causing issues

[mellow pilot]

60% extra speed, run away!

[chrome arrow]

oh they added gift of the titans? that's nice

[oak tartan]

i lost 80% hp at that group on they way to the middle quarter with going full in without deathmark

the mage quarter mini fiends just kick me out of existence, like wth is that shit?

that can't be right

i literally pulled like all of the right way as dh and got no dmg

by accident

any videos of 8 mask clears here?

682 itemlvl and i get a 30% melee from hogger with elu feint up, yeah no thanks blizz

[woeful geyser]

its kinda funny that their solution for delves was simply

"healer branns hots just full heal you on every tick"

[oak tartan]

i mean sanity is no issue but the mobs hit so hard even with elu feint up and ironwire

2 big guys in a pack? bleeds up, run and los

[plush dune]

rogue in solo content

big tanky during evasion

otherwise lmao

[sick finch]

rogue in solo content

[chrome arrow]

true

[sick finch]

vanish for dealing damage

[plush dune]

other melee tend to have better self healing which is the most important part

[sick finch]

boss reset

[chrome arrow]

yeah i haven't had that happen in visions recently though so either i just got better at making that not happen or blizzard did something

[plush dune]

just kill them before they kill you tbh

[oak tartan]

mage quarter is my end everytime

[plush dune]

just death strike

[oak tartan]

guess my main won't do this shit every again

[mighty hatch]

just bubble

8 mask is hard

[oak tartan]

nah, i meta and pull everything up to that wierd mage and eye beam them

[mighty hatch]

[oak tartan]

that's literally how i did it in my one and only 8 mask run on dh

just going in and oneshot that 8mask run on dh

green blade charge thing, illidan rp throw, eyebeam into that spam spender and better killing spree

all mobs dead

not 1 pack, all mobs

[quasi galleon]

Eight masks was braindead easy on sub. Just nuke everything take no damage. Literally killed the mage boss in stormwind with secret tech from a mile away when he teleported.

You should save cloak for some of the spells to save kick for things like the poly.

[fringe umbra]

Tbf you can apply your bleeds and he will just tick down and die as assa too

[oak tartan]

i need to get to him first

it's just not worth the time man

1 minor mistake and it's over while other classes just faceroll that shit

[novel cipher]

Oh he's actually serious @shell hill

[neon glen]

[shell hill]

What I do

[zealous halo]

you are a communist

or smth

[novel cipher]

Nah there was just an actual Nazi poster

[shell hill]

Oh

[novel cipher]

It's been scrubbed

[shell hill]

I can fish it out of the mod log

No worries

[chrome arrow]

communism is when no iphone

[ember nest]

he went hard

[plush dune]

idiot did it with accounts linked to his discord

not that i would do anything with that of course

[ember nest]

no remorse

[neon glen]

might've been a stolen account

[plush dune]

i'd be so mad if my account was stolen and used for that

at least use it to scam people or something, not that

[obsidian saddle]

GG

[robust nacelle]

bruh,cant log into wow

server down or what

[novel cipher]

I got plenty of folks playing right now

[robust nacelle]

just ended with my t11 delves,suddenly ravencrest E.U died

[novel cipher]

ah, I'm in US

[robust nacelle]

looks like it was a rollback,im inside a delve

[fair crest]

guys echoing void still bug or what ?

[warm pagoda]

Ye

[hearty fog]

im sure they'll fix for 13.2 when they recycle it again

[mellow pilot]

God gave you a chance to do it differently

[left crow]

ok so that didn't work out. got belt+wrists in vault with both slots already 684 and 681 crafted. sad

[orchid cobalt]

yeah, makes sense, when u are literally the leading cause of suffering on this planet by a ginormous margin, u are bound to get trolled, dont u think?

[mellow pilot]

Please

Let's not

[woeful geyser]

and if you want to bring up "Leading cause of suffering", thats not a US only thing, but a thing in modern society and lifestyle in general, which is build on exploitation and not caring about the future :3

[fervent ibex]

[fervent ibex]

[woeful geyser]

and PvP

PvP is the #1 cause

[fervent ibex]

of all suffering? trueing

[woeful geyser]

2v2 arena and rated BG's are used as torture methods

[silver finch]

Where you from kiddo

[woeful geyser]

guys

[silver finch]

Bro @d me like 400 days later

[woeful geyser]

dont do those stupid arguments here allright 🙂

[silver finch]

Mods can either moderate

[woeful geyser]

both of you

do it in dms

[silver finch]

Or let me fucking speak

Nah bro why is it when I got to respond its an issue

Moderate the kid who picks the fight

Or fuck off

[fervent ibex]

it was an issue in the first place

hence this

[silver finch]

Shoulda got deleted

[fervent ibex]

now it is on you to act like an adult

[silver finch]

A mod coulda also come in and warned him

Absent anything official being done im gonna respond

Just when I respond the stance gets more tight, doesnt make sense

Ill leave it alone

[fervent ibex]

that isn't true

[silver finch]

But how about people get checked properly for picking fights

[fervent ibex]

both parties have been told to leave it

[hearty fog]

[unreal gulch]

love childish country drama

not the music-related one tho

[silver finch]

https://tenor.com/view/ready-player-one-bigfoot-monster-truck-driving-bigfoot-monster-truck-gif-6388619949288647838

[woeful geyser]

why do you all have to be so weird

and that comes from the 10/10 weirdo

[fervent ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/america-truck-patriot-murica-gif-26712418

[mellow pilot]

Hi homie, I stepped in asap and noticed the bigger homies about the issue, unfortunately none were online at the time and as green there's so much I can do (first of all I'm not a mod)
Thanks for understanding the situation, and don't worry much about it please

[zealous halo]

Americans 💀

Would rather be french fr fr

[mellow pilot]

No baguette allowed here

Mon amie

[noble kestrel]

mon amie...

[mellow pilot]

Wheeee whoooo

[zealous halo]

mon amie..

[fervent ibex]

See boo play

Moan a me

[woeful geyser]

no spanish allowed

[noble kestrel]

I am just referencing the greatest wiseman of our generation

[mellow pilot]

Expedition 33 made you guys be a lil bit more important in the world map :3

[noble kestrel]

it is better to have lost a rock than to never have had a rock at all.

[zealous halo]

Buddy

[plush dune]

Pal

[noble kestrel]

the french have created many good things

[mellow pilot]

Fren

French fries aren't even french!!

[zealous halo]

Like french tacos

[noble kestrel]

expedtion 33, overthrowing the monarchy, crossiants.

[noble kestrel]

not that

[plush dune]

i do like croissants

[zealous halo]

Haters gonna hate

[noble kestrel]

A lot of words that everyone stole, too.

Big fan of those

[mellow pilot]

I actually have french family

[plush dune]

im sorry to hear that

[zealous halo]

Haha noob

[fervent ibex]

French fries

[mellow pilot]

Nah I loved my auncle

[noble kestrel]

My name is french, that's my connection to the french

my real name i mean

[mellow pilot]

Every time he got mad he started frenching out

[zealous halo]

Idk anyone named gestalt

[mellow pilot]

Now you do

Duh

[plush dune]

you know one person

[noble kestrel]

My real name is, thankfully, not gestalt

[woeful geyser]

what a weird name

[mellow pilot]

Even my mom calls me Royal sometimes

[woeful geyser]

"what should we call him?"

"NotGestalt"

[zealous halo]

Close call

Bro almost got called gestalt

What a stupid name

[noble kestrel]

true, it is

[mellow pilot]

Zac must be called Pedro

[zealous halo]

Ye

[mellow pilot]

Or jean

[zealous halo]

My parents almost called me zac

Imagine

[mellow pilot]

Zacarias

[zealous halo]

Silly

[noble kestrel]

A friend of mine had the surname Funk and I will always be in awe of that. What an incredible surname

[upper veldt]

You know, I was curious cause Gestalt is also a german word for something like “Creature” haha

[noble kestrel]

Ye, also Shape right?

[upper veldt]

Oh yeah

[noble kestrel]

Like form / shape?

[glad harness]

[hazy halo]

It can also be used to describe people.

[mellow pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/tommy-wiseau-oh-hi-mark-hey-mark-gif-17296134

[unreal gulch]

its nearly exclusively used as something negative

hate to break it to you

still like you

dw brother

what counts is on the inside and all that stuff

[noble kestrel]

[tardy oyster]

Im also Zach

But with an h

[faint bough]

didnt gymrat zach get purged

or was that just temporary

[fervent ibex]

just a mute

[faint bough]

ah ok, it was hard to keep up that day

[mellow pilot]

trust me, we know xD

[sour patrol]

[stiff mulch]

No transmogrifier in Dornogal? that's stupid

why do I have to pray that the guy on the fat yak is afk

[noble kestrel]

There is one. He's by the trading post in a small indoor area

on the marker

[stiff mulch]

thx I literally googled "transmogrifier tww" couldn't find good result(don't try it to expose me)

[inland gale]

could ask a guard

[stiff mulch]

I'm not that pure

[inland gale]

That's fair

[left crow]

"ask a guard" or "where's Bingles?" was at a time half the chat

[lost vine]

i've got a rogue alt i'm not 100% convinced on which spec i prefer. i'm looking to spend my first dinars. i've already got a myth track pacemaker. what's the best option without hardlocking myself into a spec? jastors i guess?

[faint bough]

Don't know if there will be one good option for all 3 specs, jastors would be good for sub and assa only

[lost vine]

i guess the answer is to just yolo it on outlaw because why the hell not

[woeful geyser]

🤡 spec once again

[faint bough]

thats some king shit

[hearty fog]

House of cards.

[sour patrol]

"transmogrifier Dornogal" would've worked better

[wispy skiff]

Sorry maybe a real stupid question but which rogue spec is it that's all about the funnel?

[fringe umbra]

Assa, but if sub would play deathstalker it would be very strong too (but we dont play DS this tier)

[silver trail]

good morning. Havent really been playing much lately, just curious which spec is better now. I usually do sin

[warm pagoda]

All the specs are pretty good

[glossy flicker]

outlaw has no funnel anymore really

[next pike]

first time playing wow, I wanna play classic wow as undead rogue. What build should I do? What guide to follow?

[glad harness]

Follow the pinned link in the classic channel

[novel karma]

our tank is dying from oab the big hit most of the times, he died from melee here https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Lx8JzGwmAt1h2XZQ?fight=24&type=deaths (26m damage), Do you know what might be the cause

[mellow pilot]

We aint tanks

[mellow pilot]

cant even see it

[novel karma]

oops made it public now

[hazy halo]

If you stand in the gray shit on the ground you get some HUGE Debuff which will kill a tank if he is in there while getting a tank hit

[novel karma]

i see, this huge melee was because of enrage, didn't realize it when it happened

but tank is taking ~18m big hits and dying instantly for most of the times, trying to find if standing in poo is the reason for that

as you said

[hazy halo]

150% increased dmg is a huge chunk. If he is not standing in it and dies while a definsiv is up idk not a tank. Just hwe had that happen a bunch of times on our prog that our tank didnt realize he was in the puddle and just got clapped

[quasi oasis]

I mean, the boss cast Fraud Detected and enraged, then the tank gets clapped

this is... expected

[hazy halo]

Yea but i think that should be obvious no?

[hazy halo]

Yea this pull but he stated it happend a bunch of times while the tank hit is going on. Either they always miss they enrage the boss or its something else ^^

[quasi oasis]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Lx8JzGwmAt1h2XZQ?fight=35&type=damage-taken&ability=460472&view=events there's a death to it here without shocking field or the boss being enraged, it's basically just CD mismanagement

as DH you really want either fiery brand or meta for each of those

[balmy bough]

which rogue spec is easiest for a new player clearing delves?

[faint bough]

Prob assa

[balmy bough]

Great ty, that is my fav spec!

[novel karma]

yep i looked into all fights and it seems like a definitely wrong cd usage

[peak cipher]

hey guys i have a question about the supercharged combo points

if you lets say use 7CP finisher with a supercharge available, does that act like a 9cp or still a 7cp?

so the question is: is there basically a hard cap at 7 points? or does the supercharged talent make it go further

[golden vale]

It acts as 9 cp

[peak cipher]

ok thanks

[thorny steeple]

Hey guys. Was tank threat such a problem that it had to get buffed?

[mellow pilot]

Seems like it

Not because of our damage, but because bursty classes

[woeful geyser]

in m+, yes

blizz keeps buffing burst dmg, while at the same time tanks are kinda left behind on threat

so we reached the point where it turned into "dont do anything for 3-5 seconds or you steal aggro" again

and devestation evoker being able to take aggro deep into pulls even with a build in threat reduction

[novel karma]

Can you drop oab pools on top of each other?

[burnt sonnet]

Is anyone having issue with logging in?

to game

[hazy halo]

Yes

[burnt sonnet]

mm finally got in, couldnt access bnett even through web browsers on PC nor phone (on different network)

Must be outages

[fringe umbra]

I love ripping threat at the end of deathmark as assa

Like 20s into the pull

[woeful geyser]

i love playing my alt tank, and sit there pumping 4-5 ST abilitys into a enemy and it still doesnt make them swap

[glad harness]

Dawg

I almost flipped yesterday when I saw an arcane mage doing ?? underpin

ignored all mechanics and adds, just lmao funnel

[woeful geyser]

wanna bet when they will hammer down on Cooldowns again?

Last Titan or Late Midnight?

[glad harness]

I dont understand what you are saying

[woeful geyser]

making cds way weaker across the game

[native cypress]

for the first 3 bosses in mythic, are assa and sub on the same level?

[noble kestrel]

With Midnight launch imo

Gonna get another big overhaul of how stuff works

[noble kestrel]

I think Assa is just plain better on Mug'zee but don't quote me on this

[warm pagoda]

iGestalt - 2025

[noble kestrel]

noooo

[hearty fog]

I think Assa is just plain better on Mug'zee but don't quote me on this

iGestalt - 2025

[noble kestrel]

[eternal star]

perfect

forwarding this to assa channel

ur exposed forever

[noble kestrel]

damn

[eternal star]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-22968526

[grizzled fjord]

How is he so wise

[native cypress]

You know the worst thing about iGestalt's answer was, that i asked just for the first 3 bosses not for Mog'Zee

[noble kestrel]

Well.

I can't read lmao

The answer failed on all possible levels 🫡

[glad harness]

Its ok, we wont quote you on it

[noble kestrel]

In my defense it's very warm and I am stupid

[warm pagoda]

Preparing you for the future

Go kill that ogre

[native cypress]

We are atm infront of bandid, but we lacked dh, so i went for havoc. i know i'm a failiure for the rogue community

[warm pagoda]

Nah, gotta do what you gotta do sometimes

Good on you for stepping up for your team