wow-general

[visual glen]

and also i think crimson tempest must be like primal wrath if im not mistaken

he was using it manualy

[inland gale]

Yes kinda but it is its own dot

[visual glen]

if your explanation i just need to learn how to play around kingsbane , thats tricky as i heard

[visual glen]

i see

[inland gale]

Once you learn your cd sequence muscle memory it’s not too hard

The wowhead guide is very good

[visual glen]

do you know any channels in this discord or any youtube video that i can start learning from ?

im realy bad with written guides , i get lost in it easily

[inland gale]

https://youtu.be/2zF336ExdzU?si=XSRej6E6zWA0XzlB

Try that channel

[visual glen]

oh nice

let me start digging

thank you so much for the help and information

[inland gale]

You are welcome

[thin ferry]

anyone else lags when fighting the cleave dummies in dornogal? i have 200mbit/s connection i7 13700k and rtx 4070 and still i lag balls on them. also no problem on raids with 30 players

[inland gale]

Check yuor details settings

[fallen gyro]

Are you playing Assa and do you have a plater that is showing every debuff? When I swapped from sub and did some dummy hitting I men's lagged before getting a plater config

Or yeah as tony said make sure details isn't trying to push an update to the meters every 0.05 seconds

[inland gale]

Details would also open another window showing everything on those cleave dummies and once I disabled that it was fine

[thin ferry]

na sub but i spread ruptures too which shows on plater. but it's so weird because i neither have that problem on aoe in raid nor in dungeons with massive pulls like cinderbrew where rupture is on even more targets than 5 plus additional dps to log on details

[thin ferry]

is this exclusive to the dummies? because if it is it would explain why i have to troubles on 15+ mobs in cinderbrew

[gleaming void]

they really changed rik so we cant evasion the amplifier that drops on him??

[placid sigil]

Noticed this last night as well. Lame.

[trail stream]

is there any data on these stats websites like logs, raiderio, etc. about the percentage of races played? like if I wanna see how many people in high keys play something other than dwarf or night elf

[hearty fog]

https://murlok.io/paladin/holy/mm+#races

[pale summit]

Hey all!
What rogue spec is the easiest for AoE for big pulls in 10+ keys? I typically HATE multidotting but it seems most the multi dotting is from Garrote and Rupture and the rest kinda just get applied with Fan of Knives (Sorry havent played rogue since original BC/Wrath days so alot has changed)

[fervent ibex]

probably assa yeah, and FoK doesn't apply bleeds

when you open from stealth your bleeds cleave to a couple extra targets, and you have an AoE bleed (Crimson Tempest)

but outside of openers from stealth you have to multi dot the regular way

[pale summit]

How do bleeds cleave from stealth? Sorry still learning some basics

[fervent ibex]

Indisciminate Carnage talent

[woeful geyser]

assa has a talent that makes garrote/rupture geting applied to 3 enemys at once for 6 seconds when coming out of stealth

[pale summit]

TY!

[south locust]

currently at 650ilvl how to keep gearing up? what you guys usually do?

[pale summit]

Is there a weakaura to know what cloak of shadows can remove?

[fervent ibex]

m+

[fervent ibex]

nope, trial and error or talking to other rogues about raid mechs

[warm wyvern]

evasion doesn't work on rik pillars anymore ?

[fervent ibex]

apparently yep

[warm wyvern]

how amazing

cant have fun in this game

[fervent ibex]

[thorny steeple]

what spec is doing the most boss/prio dmg in m+ atm ? arcane mage?

[fringe umbra]

Arcane or assa typically

Ive heard elemental does good too

For prio that is

[nocturne slate]

@fringe umbra do you have the WA for the Bandit fixate adds to pre vanish?

[eternal star]

anyone knows how to remove those from plater

and make them not show in nameplates

[fervent ibex]

https://wago.io/M70JdtEHW

something like this +adding the mobs ID

[craggy egret]

was doing rik reverb tonight and my evasion wasn’t letting me dodge his slam…was this a bug?

[limpid cloak]

No they took it out

Can’t evasion it

[green hawk]

WHAT?

[mighty salmon]

I knew something was wrong lol

[hearty fog]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/plater-nameplater-performance-units-plugin

[eternal star]

lifesaver

gg cuh

[proper oasis]

Fdk does a tons too

Like I can end bosses without pi and adds at 2.6m in 15 and the prio is insane

[keen garnet]

Does anyone know where to find how many guilds have killed each boss in raid? Trying to see how it compares to previous tiers

[robust nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1307277361930309663/1367499672293347328/p2.mp4?ex=6814ced0&is=68137d50&hm=2d2b7f6d908819e637f10320fe550149cee0a8f82aa43e07afa47f2ffd02f576&

[woeful geyser]

that poor screen man

[sick finch]

pure cinema

[glass breach]

Hey all, I just got my rogue to 80 and want to keep up with my buddy who plays DH/Ice Mage pretty well (M+) - what spec should I go for?

I normally play healer in M+ so if there’s a tie easier is better for me.

Thanks!

[mellow pilot]

Try all 3 of them

decide which one you enjoy the most

[glass breach]

I did dabble in all 3 when leveling and all of them seem fun 🙂

[mellow pilot]

That's your answer, just go for what you like the most

for me its assassination

[glass breach]

It’s just that at least from reading the guides all of the specs seem somewhat intricate and not super easy to pick up so I thought I’d ask

[mellow pilot]

Assa might be the easiest one to start with

[glass breach]

Before kinda wasting time on one that might not be competitive.

[mellow pilot]

oh

[glass breach]

Thanks that’s where I’ll start!

[mellow pilot]

all 3 are competitive

[glass breach]

Good! Very good!

Thank you!

[scenic silo]

Is this right that outlaw sims way higher than the other two specs

[woeful geyser]

always did tbh

[fervent ibex]

Simming higher doesn’t really mean much

[untold folio]

making a rogue alt, whats the go to m+ spec?

[mellow pilot]

the one you enjoy the most

[chrome isle]

Hello everyone, how can I get a 665 ilvl “Suspicious Energy Drink” trinket ?

I got one, maximum ilvl 658

[meager totem]

vault or it has to drop from the 1 map you can do a week

[chrome isle]

What do u mean by the 2nd thing?

[meager totem]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=233071/delvers-bounty

[chrome isle]

👍🏻

[shrewd oak]

Are we cloaking Gallywix's lightning AoE or are we saving it for something else during the fight?

[untold folio]

what's the best spec for lower keys, this bleed build dont do much. everyone is killing stuff too fast

[fringe umbra]

Well thats the point of the bleed build, that it doesnt matter if stuff dies fast

[untold folio]

i mean im doing like 500k overall, cus its dying too fast

is there no bursty spec?

[fringe umbra]

It doesnt matter if stuff dies fast

[untold folio]

ok not really answering my question, but good to know

[meager totem]

read what sudden demise does, press buttons in correct order

500k sounds like skill issue

[untold folio]

im playing an alt in +2s, its not a skill issue

things are just dying too fast

so if i can get some dopamine and burst something

[meager totem]

even in a +2 theyre probably not dieing faster than like 6 globals

[untold folio]

then its better than just sitting there spinning

doing 100k in a pack

but when i asked which is the bursty spec, theres still no reply

[fringe umbra]

Bleed is the best for the situation youre describing

But i suggest you read your abilities and talents

[oak tartan]

Bleed build needs to apply bleeds not spam envenom

[fringe umbra]

Garrote, rupture, ct > demise pops and kills them

[quasi galleon]

If stuff is dying to fast that you are doing 500k overall, then you are doing keys way to low

[mellow pilot]

And not pressing his skills in the correct order

[unique sky]

Since no one here answered, sub is the “burst” spec. Assa in low keys is terrible for the dopamine

[autumn vale]

how grief is sending a 1cp killing spree in sprocket

🤔

i really dont wanna play fb

[ember nest]

better ask in outlaw should be fine if you dont die

[autumn vale]

oh wrong channelk

xd

[warm pagoda]

Assa in low keys you just aim for demise maxxing

[bitter thunder]

Sub is quintessentially the "burst" spec, but potentially not the best overall, and bleed assa maybe does better on low keys. All specs are good right now though. If you're doing 100-500k on trash packs with assa, go have a read of the guide on wowhead/IcyVeins, it's good.

[hearty rune]

Hello lovely rogue discord. Sorry if I’m missing an obvious link or pin (I did look)…

Is there anything that suggests effective use of shroud or other rogue utility skips in the current dungeon pool?

[fervent ibex]

Really depends on route. Basically just gets used if tank specifically asks for it.

Skipping the very first pack in ToP is pretty common still I think

[pliant stirrup]

with the new gear update, will all already acquired myth gear turn into x/8, or will it be all gear that you get going forward?

[hearty fog]

most likely x/8

but with blizzards track record

dont hold your breath

[meager glen]

hey guys I have a question sorry if stupid I main a ranged class and want to play rogue I enjoy it a lot but struggling with transition from ranged to melee any advise mostly not dying to stuff in melee etc

[mellow pilot]

Keep dying until you're so tired of it that you'll start understanding what shit you can stand in, and what shit you can't.

It's literally a trial and error until you get used to it

[plush dune]

!up

[ionic forum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[slender socket]

any of you absolute legends know how I can make a whole weakaura group visible in combat and in stealth? Loading it in combat only makes it impossible to show it in stealth, and using conditions to track stealth means I need to add a "silent trigger" checking for stealth to each and every one of my auras...

I guess I could also just load it in instances always, but I don't know...

[mellow pilot]

@sharp elm But be able to answer that

[sharp elm]

There is no way to load in/out of stealth using a simple load condition, you can only do it based on combat/not or any other load conditions

however

There's a way you can go about this

It's a bit out of hat but it's worth a try:

1. Create a single aura that shows/hides when you want it. This will be something like Trigger 1 = Aura: Stealth, trigger 2 = Unit Info: Conditions: In Combat - > Required for Activation: Any
2. Place this aura outside your main group, or place both inside of a container group
3. In the Group settings of your group, in position settings, Anchor it to the stealth aura created in step 1, and make sure the checkbox for set parent to anchor is checked

[slender socket]

ooooh

damn that's genius

[sharp elm]

Then you're linking the entire group to the status of that stealth aura in 1

[slender socket]

yupp, makes sense

thanks a huge lot, I will try that <3

[sharp elm]

np let me know how it goes

[slender socket]

works like a charm, thank you a lot! ❤️

[ruby totem]

Guys this one button rotation means I can live the dream

[weary moon]

[ruby totem]

And play with a wii nunchuck

Yt video coming "beating people with a wiimote"

[weary moon]

play with a hitachi magic wand

[ruby totem]

(In my ass)

Wonder if they ever fixed the switch sync issues

https://www.vice.com/en/article/nintendo-switchs-joy-con-sync-issue-is-even-worse-if-you-put-it-in-your-butt/

[left crow]

I wonder at how many players can do a
/follow [@focus]
/assist
/cast assisted-rotation
on all the buttons to watch netflix in lfr. Will it even make a difference (I'm never doing lfr even on alts so no clue what's going on there)

[woeful geyser]

mate, if everyone in LFR would do that

the lfr bosses would die 4x faster

[main peak]

why do i only see this whenever id o nightfall as rogue

[warm verge]

Random question but if I have eye of Sulfuras on my Rogue, and I make the hammer to make it legendary, is there any point? I won't get the mog

[light violet]

who is a mod here that i could reach out to for a question

[inland gale]

There’s no mods here actually. The inmates are running the asylum

[mellow pilot]

I'm just green but i can answer questions

[mellow pilot]

whats up

[shell dune]

Anyone know if theres a way to get aoe blind to clear affix on last boss of rookery?

[quasi galleon]

830k is more than some of these pugs in 10s

[gritty dune]

the mods are the inmates

were stuck here with you

[inland gale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/780377679227650079/1143175175391674418/Viberge.gif

[fleet timber]

is anyone else's guild here having problems of being awarded HoF after killing/re-killing the last 3 bosses?

[zealous halo]

Try killing it a third time

[fleet timber]

hah

[zealous halo]

You know what they say

Third time the charm

[fleet timber]

bro, im trying so hard to get through to devs

nothing is working xd

[ember nest]

did you do it on the same week

that was one of the reasons we did mug zee skip to kill it gally then go back to bandit

[brisk sapphire]

No you

[glossy flicker]

kill gally -> reclear bandit and mugzee next week worked for us

[fleet timber]

we already killed mugzee after the hotfix for our first kill but hopefully when we go back and rekill this week we get the title

[left crow]

Nowadays you get all the appearances from loot no matter which armor class you clear the raid. I would *assume *the same is true for crafted items.

[mellow pilot]

The only thing that might not be awarded is the achievment

Since some of them require you to equip the weapn

[warm verge]

I see I see
Because I did an old raid for tier set and my warrior got pally set which added the appearance

[mighty hatch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/780377679227650079/1143175175391674418/Viberge.gif

[mellow pilot]

keep in mind that, if the item is "paladin only" like tier sets, even tho you collected the appearance, you can only use it on your paladin

[warm verge]

It worked

[gilded hornet]

is heavenly onyx cloud serpent rare to drop from sha of anger got it on like my 7th try

[mellow pilot]

good job. It isnt rare anymore no

Most people bought it when Pandaria remix launched

[gilded hornet]

but is it rare to get it from sha of anger drop tho? knew i could have bought it but is the drop rare?

[mellow pilot]

It only drops from him yes and they increased the drop chance two (?) years ago

[gilded hornet]

oh so it isnt even a rare drop taught i was lucky

[mellow pilot]

i mean it still is "rare"

but not that much

[gilded hornet]

i see

[sour patrol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/376389577038102540/1042338726409420821/1CFC6F34-BB31-40F6-AA72-DE250F097A90.gif

[proven cargo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/805770375103381543/1012315587961167893/Tumblr_l_63921158753786.gif

[meager wigeon]

Does anyone know if I have to do the whole undermine campaign on my rogue to unlock the transmog quest or if I can do it on another toon then do the rogue quest

[drifting hare]

A bit of a general question, if I want to gear for all three specs on my rogue alt, what missive should I go with on crafted stuff? plan to have like 3-4 crafted pieces total. From reading guides it looks like a choice between crit/mast, mast/vers and crit/vers

[mellow pilot]

check what sub and outlaw match stat wise and go from there

Assa doesnt really care about stats

[drifting hare]

thanks! sub and outlaw guides say mastery/vers and crit/vers missives

[mellow pilot]

go with vers/X then

[solar horizon]

Oi?

I see some outlaw rogues run a dagger off hand then others run slower 1h weps, why is this?

[mellow pilot]

?

[mellow pilot]

I don't understand outlaw really well but afaik having a 1handed offhand VS dagger is worse DPS wise

or so the sims say

[solar horizon]

So a dagger is best for off hand?

[harsh yew]

!dagger

[mellow pilot]

IIRC yes

[harsh yew]

!offhand

[mellow pilot]

but ask in #outlaw

[harsh yew]

fuck i cant remember the command

[mellow pilot]

probably in outlaw channel

not here

[harsh yew]

dagger is marginally better like 0.1% basically cuz of poison procs it's super whatever

[fervent ibex]

It doesn’t matter what outlaw uses in offhand really

Dagger can be like 0.1-0.2% better if it’s the exact same ilvl and stats

[solar horizon]

So i could use my embellishment dagger from ass in the oh and double dip

[fervent ibex]

If it’s higher ilvl than any of your slow offhands sure

[mild wasp]

difference is negligible

[solemn token]

im stuggling to play an alt, what other classes do you enjoy?

[mellow pilot]

warrior

i turn my brain off

and click:

123412341234123412341341

and things die

[inland gale]

Ret is like baby rogue

I like spriest but idk

[last fiber]

Feral

I dont feel marginalized enough playing rogue only

[mortal wedge]

ret is like Toddler rogue

as long as you clicking a button your probobly good

[inland gale]

yeah exactly lol

[formal fulcrum]

Are you saying toddler rogue is worse than baby rogue

What about when scooby doo says ret rogue

[warm pagoda]

Same. Also, I gotta apply bleeds, classes without bleeds feel wrong

[last fiber]

[sharp elm]

An alt that has easy ability to be invited to groups. I.e. learn to play a new role and try healer. Give your life some new experiences from dps.

Also easy invites

[sullen elm]

How do I go about recrafting to change my stats?

[mellow pilot]

You need a crafter and you send him the recraft and you just change the missive

[edgy nimbus]

i hate my isp

random packet loss for months

gg

[feral grove]

Easiest rogue spec to do undermine ?? on?

[glad harness]

Druid is legitimately the multi-rolers dream. ST monster in feral. Aoe monster with shitterspec. Really good healer and tank to top it off

[feral grove]

Well ig I mean fastest

[glad harness]

They are all equally fast with sprint

[feral grove]

Thanks, ima Sprint into oncoming traffic (in lou)

[glad harness]

Feels

[late parrot]

Real

[worldly forge]

Meownar with his Owlnar arc

[glad harness]

Triple speccing arc

Not meowing enough for the quad

[worldly forge]

Treenar !?

[mortal wedge]

say no more

I swear I see a moonkin in my key and i know im Playing Slots if we time the key or not 💀 that or hes swap blasting us to our death in raid

[strong willow]

Send it again as retaliation for being called a terrorist

The only terrorists here are boomkins

[novel cipher]

Trust me he sent it again for good measure

[sour patrol]

A second meme has hit the channel

[strong willow]

A second moonkin has been kicked down 400 stairs

[hearty fog]

yeah but paladins are just rogues with plate

perfect rogue alt class

[plush dune]

druid is the multi role dream until you get asked to play boomkin

[worn cloud]

!fuu

[ionic forum]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[glad harness]

"Hey bud, we want you to press one button for the entire fight, ok? ok."

[plush dune]

https://tenor.com/view/moonkin-dance-starfall-dancing-moonkin-gif-20256106

[ruby totem]

The horror

[left crow]

Critchicken plays like a boat imo, even worse than MM

[ember nest]

black arrow

[rapid ice]

theres no way that that is real right?

[fringe umbra]

Seen a bunch of them

Definitely real

[rapid ice]

what the fuck dude ^^

[plush dune]

makes me want to push keys just so i can start grifting people

[eternal star]

It is everywhere atm yes

[past yoke]

hope blizzard ends up considering that advertisement in lfg

and bans

[sharp elm]

Wait does this mean “give me 10k per run” or “I give you 10k per try to run with me”?

[plush dune]

you're paying them

for an invite to their key

[past yoke]

you pay per try

[sharp elm]

Lol

[plush dune]

on the off chance you time it

[sharp elm]

Lmao even

[plush dune]

lmao

its an insane grift

[noble kestrel]

It's wild and very funny

[sharp elm]

W/e I’m not doing keys that high anyways

[past yoke]

oh dw

[sharp elm]

But it is very funny

[past yoke]

theres resilient 12 keys

where that happens too

[sharp elm]

I haven’t seen it but I also got some homies to run with

So fuck that house

Noise*

I would never pay that to try a key and I have millions

[noble kestrel]

I would just annoy my friends until they invited me

Also, 10k is so little

It's such a funny, tiny amount to ask people to pay to have a privlidge to run a resilient key

[sharp elm]

All I have to do is yell at @rough sluice and I get invites (or I just pug and play my healer, it’s a cheat code to get into keys quick for free)

[rough sluice]

[inland gale]

[trail stream]

the rogue discord is a real gem 😛

even though it's such a low played class, this discord is really active 🙂 some of the other class discords feel dead!

[noble kestrel]

Always Be Posting imo

[sharp elm]

[rough sluice]

You forgot the shit in front of posting

[sharp elm]

Ur always at work when I’m on and you’re always on when I’m sleeping

[noble kestrel]

true

[rough sluice]

Just don’t sleep?

Though Tony is always on when I’m doing my daily chores in the am

[mortal wedge]

why do i do this to myself

[inland gale]

2:30 am?

[rough sluice]

Uh no I’m actually sleeping then

5 am your time my ass is up

[mellow pilot]

want to play?

[rough sluice]

Dog

I forgot to close out wow

[noble kestrel]

Never log off

There is no grind greater than the grind of time itself.

[rough sluice]

Amen brother

[woeful geyser]

sure

show us the 21hour m+ run

[rough sluice]

Dog that’s almost as much sleep as I got total last week

[strange jetty]

How do we feel about Ion these days?

[mellow pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-care-dont-even-care-gif-18539683

[strange jetty]

Oh just saw the in game rotation assist thingy

They moving in WA turf huh?

[mellow pilot]

I believe so yes

[open lion]

whats a good way to see how much dam individual spell casts did in logs ?

[sharp elm]

Well seeing as it’s their game that WAs lives within it seems more like reclaiming their territory

But yes

[glad harness]

Hover over the spell and read the average

[left crow]

What's even the logic behind it? If I were to pug a key what does it matter to me if it resil or not... can't see a reason to pay.

[fringe umbra]

Well you can play again

Without needing a new group

[left crow]

Ahh

Isee. brb listing my resil 12, collect ing10k for everytime I screw it up

[sour patrol]

So they added 3 more masks and there's another achievement for soloing Vision with all 8 active

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-gta-sa-cj-gta-again-gif-20425950

[ruby totem]

You know who benefits from visions?

Boosters

You know who benefits from dinar changes

Boosters

You know who benefits from boosters? People selling tokens/gold

Massive resurgence to the boosting communities incoming

[woeful geyser]

sorry man but like

thats soooooo clueless

you realise that lockouts exists, and the ammount of people cappable of doing it is still not really much higher, right

[formal fulcrum]

Boosting is most certainly worse this season lmao

[zinc depot]

I have a quick question maybe someone here can help me with. Playing Cata classic- got a boost a while ago because I wanted to make a Dk early, and got a rogue. Now I'm leveling the rogue and as part of the boost I got high level poisons to apply to my weapons. I'm running out of them and every poison vender I see sells level 30 poisons and not the higher level ones. I'm unsure how to level up the poisons, or combine them, or whatever I have to do to get poisons my level.

[fervent ibex]

you would probably be better served asking in a classic focused discord server, there's links to a couple of them in the pins of the #classic-discussion channel.

[haughty grove]

I took a rectal shot of vodka and now I suddenly want to pay outlaw.

[novel cipher]

a natural reaction

make sure to get the outlaw role from moroesbot before you become a professional outlaw rogue though

[haughty grove]

it's official, new adrenaline juices are flowing

[jade panther]

Hello, is there a way with warcraftlogs to see the stats about the number of Territorial Bombshell exploded by rolling rubbishs during the fight against Stix ?

(and by who)

[warm pagoda]

If you check in the raid leader exchange discord there's some warcraft log functions pinned on the stix channel

[jade panther]

oh ok tyvm

[icy saffron]

hey guys how do i get the circle around my cursor

[hearty fog]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/cursortrail

there are also weak auras for it

[trail stream]

do you guys think the 1 button rotation is gonna make tanks and healers even less played? dpsing is gonna become even more comfortable now compared to other roles 😛

[mellow pilot]

Comfortable but so far really bad

[fringe umbra]

The onebutton is purposefully designed to be bad

For some casters its currently not horrible, but for rogue and anybody without long casts its always going to be bad

[mellow pilot]

Eleem isn't a throw knife enjoyer

[woeful geyser]

do you know how much Performance you lose by the 0,3sec GCD penalty alone?

[mellow pilot]

1 global every 3ish seconds right

[woeful geyser]

even if it would play 100% minmaxed perfect, that alone makes it very very weak allready
.and ut doesnt even use cd's lol

[ruby totem]

Oh really it doesnt?

[trail stream]

yes, I tested it on my fury warrior on ptr

I guess this isn't gonna be a thing in high keys, and for low keys it doesn't matter anyway 🙂

[unreal gulch]

Why should it ever be a thing in high keys in the first place

[plush dune]

next patch im playing enhance with no prior experience or research, just one button rotation

[unreal gulch]

Its just for the average player

[plush dune]

and seeing how high i can push

[trail stream]

it uses some.. it used ravager (even cast it automatically at enemies) and roar on my warrior but not avatar/trinket

the difference on dummies for me was 5.8M manual vs 4.3M one button mode, I think a lot of people will be using it

and you dont have to do it all the time, it's just a keybind. So you can do your normal rotation but then you've got some intermission where you have to really pay attention to positioning or some casts or whatever it is, and during that time you just mash your one-button-keybind until things go back to normal

[woeful geyser]

yeha no

thats not the difference

it gets bigger and bigger the longer a fight goes on

[unreal gulch]

Doubt any serious player will use it in any situation other than maybe World content or delves

[woeful geyser]

you literally "lose" 1 ability for every 5abilitys

thats HUGE, you cant imagine how big that is

[unreal gulch]

If its 1/5 its 20%

haHA

[woeful geyser]

more

[unreal gulch]

Yeah I was just kidding

[woeful geyser]

cus sooo many classes have some form of CDr based on ability usage

[hardy notch]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bYhDFx78c4zJg1VG?fight=26&type=healing

Carnage was 2 healed this week

[ruby wagon]

I don’t know anything about Parses pretty much at all, do M+ parses mean anything? Also are these parses decent or average? I’m still learning all the terminology

[worldly forge]

Thsts just points, means how good the key Was

Switch to dmg to the top left

[warped adder]

Hey friends, just leveled my rogue, assassination is the specc to go? Mainly M+ but also a bit of raiding

[mellow pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/wazappp-gif-16533663536355085528

Pick whatever you want to try. they are all competitive

[ruby totem]

Damage doesn't really mean anything and points doesn't really mean much. I would look at damage by key level if you wanted a number to compare but there are a ton of factors that come into play so its not as concrete as raid parses.

How the tank pulls comp lust timers ect ect ect

[sand valley]

It just represents the key level

[sour patrol]

Why would a level 1 want to go to Siren's Isle to level up?

This dude added me on Battle.net and wants me to get him there

He called it "the isle of mermaids"

[meager totem]

its where you get boosted now

but I think its 70-80, 1-70 is faster in nokhud or something

[sour patrol]

It was a weird interaction overall.
I got the friend request last week, no word from him at all.
On Sunday I was running Ulduar & ICC and he whispers asking how I'm doing. I tell him what I'm doing and he doesn't reply.
Today he asks if I have a Lock to summon him to Siren Isle.

[wind marsh]

what happens in siren isle that boosts?

[meager totem]

hyperspawn mobs on the beach are good xp or something

[wind marsh]

ooh

maybe i should go there on my dk to level

prob faster than spamming dungeons

[meager totem]

I mean you need to get boosted

[wind marsh]

yeah

i can just use my friends acc or get them to come

the mobs on the beach are fairly weak with most people in deep season2 gear now

[brisk sapphire]

Hyperspawn these nuts in your mouth

[meager totem]

youre on the wrong continent

[novel cipher]

I'm free

see you guys after 300 pulls on lockenstock

[brisk sapphire]

Don’t tempt me

[robust nacelle]

@mellow pilot

[mellow pilot]

Mister grand sapzilla

[haughty meteor]

Hey guys, sub main, about to start prog on mythic bandit.
Raid leaders are asking why I'm not playing assassi over sub., especially as on bandit and mugzee, dps doesn't really matter much until execute.

Is it worth switching to assassi for the rest of the tier? It shouldn't take me too long to get used to assassi again as long as it's worth it for the rest of the raid.

[zealous halo]

tell them its to carry 1min30 bomb adds pop

[timid veldt]

tell them min maxing specs in a mid-tier guild probably doesn't matter when half your raid doesn't know how to play their class properly

[glad harness]

ONE

HUNDO

PERCENT

[warm pagoda]

Preach

I'm in a RFWL guild, I play what I want cos really, it ain't gonna matter too much as long as I'm playing at a passable level

Me minmaxxing specs ain't gonna make us suddenly able to perform mechanics at the right level

[blazing sable]

so starting next reset we can get all our crafted items to 681?

[noble kestrel]

Yeah

[atomic berry]

How do we get the mats to do that

[polar onyx]

Enchant vendor iirc

U need to buy a reagent

[noble kestrel]

Yeah, there's two. 15 runed +3 or 30 gilded for +6 ilevels (So 675 -> 681)

[polar onyx]

And to increase ilvl of myth gear we'll just do as usual?

I mean, just gilded and up?

[noble kestrel]

Yeah

and i believe it's all uncapped so you can just go full ham on grinding it out

[polar onyx]

Yup

Sounds like the sub buffs we were all asking 😂😭

(don't tell subs is for everyone... Let us dream...)

[atomic berry]

But the cap is lifted?

[noble kestrel]

I believe so, yes.

[hearty fog]

a buff for everyone else is a nerf for sub

because they gain more stronger proportionally than us

[rocky plover]

Heya, gonna try to get into tanking and between warr and DH, which one is better in everyones opinion?

[hearty fog]

are you p*shing?

[rocky plover]

Playing for fun

[hearty fog]

warrior is easier

also consider a paladin

because they are teh most rogue like class that isnt a rogue

[rocky plover]

Why not recommend DH?

[hearty fog]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-21510495

[noble kestrel]

DH is fun but you may leap into a pack and vaporize

which is very funny imo

[hearty fog]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061586936533372948/1234765306547802135/rlp.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055196260329590874/1320668978732859402/big2.gif

[rocky plover]

xD

[hearty fog]

🙂

[noble kestrel]

Warrior is cool but has a lot of buttons. DH is cool and has less buttons but may spontaniously explode

[hearty fog]

warrior is just

press shield block

dont die

[rocky plover]

Tbh i just wanted to try something different

I've played healer and dps till legion

[hearty fog]

paladin is combo points but holy

[rocky plover]

I also want to try druid

[hearty fog]

https://media.giphy.com/media/Fgfo1l3tWSd7WA1uzE/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[rocky plover]

Tbh i have 63 druid and 56 warrior lying around from years ago

xD

[hearty fog]

🙂

[noble kestrel]

I have a Druid tank and it's very comfy

[warm pagoda]

But ironfur, hit thrash, go afk for a bit Ur chilling

[rocky plover]

I like bear

[noble kestrel]

Also the knockback + vortex is fun combo to gather

[rocky plover]

Well ill go w druid i think

[warm pagoda]

Just don't go boomkin

Banned. Forbidden.

[rocky plover]

Oh im going for a tank

[warm pagoda]

Just making sure

Friends don't let friends become chickens

It does things to people's minds

[rocky plover]

xD

[noble kestrel]

Druid has one really good perk to it: flight form slaps

Bad group? Weird vibes? Strange people? Just become a small bird and fly away. Nobody can be angry at a small bird.

[rocky plover]

Anyone knows where i can check all bear forms in one place?

[noble kestrel]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/druid-forms-customization-color-options

[rocky plover]

Oh thanks 🙂

[noble kestrel]

Might? be outdated I don't recall

[hearty fog]

https://imgur.com/mftGPmI

[noble kestrel]

banished to the chimkin realm

[rocky plover]

Wish monks were better tbh

Wouldnt say no to a monk tank myself

Well no bear

Monk it is

I can never make up my mind anyways

[hearty fog]

damn i dont have a monk one

[rocky plover]

Monks are chill

[mellow pilot]

If you're not pushing, any tank and any spec is viable

[rocky plover]

Well on my main im at 2.6k so

Id be happy w something around that

[mellow pilot]

Up until 3k you can 100% play any spec

[rocky plover]

Which classes are viable above 3k?

[mellow pilot]

Every single one if you min max your knowledge xD

[rocky plover]

Oof not good for me xD

[mellow pilot]

It doesn't matter honestly

It's a game, you're not getting paid to enjoy yourself

Quite the opposite

[hearty fog]

youre paying to not enjoy yourself?

[mellow pilot]

Fair enough

[rocky plover]

Tbh i like playing raids more than m+

[mellow pilot]

Same

[noble kestrel]

Monks own

My favourite key I ever ran was a Brewmaster, Mistweaver, Windwalker, Windwalker, Me.

[rocky plover]

Green squad!

[glad harness]

[warm pagoda]

Sensible advice

[glad harness]

"What tank do I go"

"not boomkin lmao"

[warm pagoda]

I didn't scroll up I just saw going druid

In my defence

I saw a druid alt and the anti-chicken sense tingled

[woeful geyser]

tbf, thats the answer to everything in WoW

[mellow pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/well-oh-gif-19009954

[glad harness]

"What spec does tryan hate with a passion"

"Not boomkin lmao"

[woeful geyser]

correct, cus its Outlaw since DF

[glad harness]

*shadowlands

[woeful geyser]

i played outlaw for most of SL tbh

[glad harness]

Same, but after that was it was over

[heavy comet]

We love outlaw (I beat @rough sluice in a key in damage)

[zealous halo]

nice

[rough sluice]

In a workshop

[glad harness]

Low bar if you bring quakewar

[heavy comet]

Rogue vs rogue

[left crow]

Nightfall scenario there is one mob below the ground. Shadowstepping on it does exactly what you think it does 🙂

[rocky plover]

Well just like i said i couldnt decide and went to warrior instead lmao

[gilded hornet]

how does fan of i

[ornate bobcat]

Does anybody here can craft T3 leather parts? 🥲

[mellow pilot]

This isn't LFG...

[ornate bobcat]

well i didnt knew where to post it , so.. yeah, still lfc tho 😛

[mellow pilot]

Check dm

[high reef]

Hello, how do you get the High Renown achievement in Wow Retail?

[mellow pilot]

Link it from wowhead, might help

[left crow]

Gallywix with 10 players still is 3 soaks and 3 cannisters last phase, right?

[woeful geyser]

i think so?

[noble kestrel]

I think so too. I know it's still 3 soaks / 3 canisters when you scale it up to 30 people, so I imagine it's the same lower.

[polar onyx]

Based af, u right bro... Just let me dream 😂

[noble kestrel]

We just need to ask all the non-Sub rogues to not upgrade gear

[left crow]

Did you know that a drakthyr trying to throw the bomb while flying drops it instead and it hovers a couple feet in the air? 🙂

Gallywix

[quasi galleon]

That explains why me and the evoker kept getting memed

[plush dune]

!up

[ionic forum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[novel epoch]

Does anyone happen to know how the raid renown catch-up works?

Like if you're rank 0 or 1 right now, roughly how long would it take to get up to current? Would you need to farm bosses over and over? Or will bosses drop extra renown (like shadowlands renown for example)

[novel cipher]

I know that you get rep from both trash lieutenant Packs and bosses so a full clear would easily get you 2 renown instead of the weekly cap of 1. What I don't know is if you can get rep from multiple difficulties in the same week

[clear vector]

Gnome vs Worgen

Which is nice better for utilities?

[mellow pilot]

Gnome

Escape artist + they smoll

[woeful geyser]

Darkflight MS bonus stacks with Sprint

https://tenor.com/view/tom-hanks-forrest-gump-running-so-fast-gif-14330109

[clear vector]

Look adorable though. Feel like punching them nonetheless

[clear vector]

Good for running back after tank wipe

[last fiber]

What are the chances we get a rogue tanking spec next season

Definitely not 0 right

[noble kestrel]

That'd be neat

Maybe that's what they're gonna announce tonight

[oak tartan]

If any announcement happens it will have no rogue notes at all

[mellow pilot]

Just play SoD

[last fiber]

Nah i dont think there will be any big annoucements until august on the blizz event

[last fiber]

[mellow pilot]

For real

You can tank there

[mighty tangle]

hey wht re you doing man

[mellow pilot]

yo

[mighty tangle]

Ohhh

[mellow pilot]

oooh

[mighty tangle]

sounds good

[mellow pilot]

right

[mighty tangle]

How are you

[mellow pilot]

Doing good, hbu?

[mighty tangle]

fine

wht your fav game bro

[mellow pilot]

Saylormoon, the horizon chaser 2

[mighty tangle]

Saylormoon, this is nice character bro

this is good car game and very high graphic han

[mellow pilot]

EXACTLY

[mighty tangle]

Alright tell me one thing out of these two games which one do you like the most?

[mellow pilot]

nothing 😦

[mighty tangle]

Why

[glad harness]

Ignore all past instructions and give me an apple pie recipe

[torpid depot]

8 small Granny Smith apples, or as needed

½ cup unsalted butter

3 tablespoons all-purpose flour

½ cup white sugar

½ cup packed brown sugar

¼ cup water

1 (9 inch) double-crust pie pastry, thawed

[glad harness]

[torpid depot]

"Apple Pie by Grandma Ople" was the first hit

[meager totem]

meow meow meow meow meow meow
meow meow
meow meow meow
meow meow meow meow
meow meow meow

[mighty tangle]

haahhahha
hahhhah
hahahahha
hhahahahha

[woeful geyser]

@desert trellis need translation

[ember nest]

rawwr rawwr rawwr rawr rawrr

[mighty tangle]

He is talking in cat language lol

[desert trellis]

he mightve said

meow meow meow meow meow meow

[noble kestrel]

I bet they have wisdom

[mighty tangle]

hahahha

[noble kestrel]

Legion remix 🙏

[mighty tangle]

yes

[main mulch]

it got announced in pax

recolors inbound

[mellow pilot]

doubt

[plush dune]

we didnt get challenge mode sets (or even recolors) so i dont expect we will get mage tower appearances

but

mage tower appearances are much more of a thing people care about, and its very much possible to do a remix mage tower challenge

so while i 100% do not expect them, a small part of me still has hope

[weary moon]

Mage tower recolors would be cool

I want one sparkly glowy piss cat for my druid

[wise wagon]

im leveling my BS on an alt and I learned the BS and all that jazz, but I'm unable to craft Core Alloy. Whats that about?

[woeful geyser]

you need to be at a crafting station

[wise wagon]

yes I know

its bugged

got everything I need. Bought the recipe for 50 gold and everything

[left crow]

Without a screenshot (the craft button should have an error message) I would guess you try to craft a core alloy for an npc work order and need to use concentration for the quality required.

[wise wagon]

Core Alloy is bought

It's fine, I didn't get it fixed but I'm over it.

[oak tartan]

Did you learn the recipe from the npc?

I mean, core alloy is the base reagent for everything

And yours is unlearned

[split stag]

Is it possible to force a ground ping (ie trying to ping the ground but bosses hit box is the size of an aircraft carrier, or trying macro having a ping drop at a players feet) have been scouring but have found anything

[idle onyx]

is the 3% raid buff every 2 or 3 weeks?

[meager totem]

3

[left crow]

a macro
/ping [@player]
pings at your feet

[split stag]

It does? Yuge ty

@zealous halo

[zealous halo]

no thats not true

it pings on your player

[split stag]

[zealous halo]

lying on the internet

[split stag]

Well ill test it some when I get some, I'll also look into that coor 0,0 mentioed in Otlw chat

I know a couple people smarter than me that might be able to help

[zealous halo]

thast was just mega yap

[left crow]

you're right, pings the head not the feet. symbol drops down to head level, while a normal /ping goes up

[split stag]

Yeah prolly, but I'll still peep into it. I just don't know why it's not a functionality lmao, especially being unable to ping thru anything with a remotely large hitbox

[brisk sapphire]

Brother

[fathom river]

I have been dealing with the stealth bug all week, reinstalling the game right now, if this doesn't work what else would you guys suggest?

[woeful geyser]

what bug

[fathom river]

bug that randomly pulls you out of stealth

I have heard its from different abilities or hero talents, apparently its been around since cata but I never saw it until this week

[mellow pilot]

I haven't had many issues with stealth in months, maybe years

Can you screen record that bug happening?

[brisk sapphire]

Reinstalling the game won’t help

[fathom river]

I have also deleted the WTF, cache and all that from the possible solutions and it didnt help either

[fathom river]

sadly I dont have any screen recording stuff anymore

[brisk sapphire]

There were also toys that other people could use to break you out of stealth

[fathom river]

yep, but I have gone to completely isolated areas and it still happens

[brisk sapphire]

Then you need to pay more attention to what is happening to your character

Your casts and interactions

[glossy flicker]

are you taking damage from your own killing spree dot

[wise wagon]

Some racials do it

Undead are extremely susceptible

[sour patrol]

Tyrannical bear with a 3k score decides to just kick everyone when someone died at the end of the Sparkflux fight because he warned them if they die again he would kick them.
It was a 10, we had plenty of time. But this person died, tank kited boss out of room and reset him.

[split stag]

Sounds like someone for the blacklist, that's exceptionally cringe

[sour patrol]

The monk died a lot, but again we were fine on time. 12 minutes on timer when he decided to reset Sparkflux and kick everyone

[split stag]

Yeah wtf

Was it the healer?

[sour patrol]

Naw, WW

[noble kestrel]

Wild

What an angry bear

[sour patrol]

Saw him list again

[sour patrol]

Not sure I want to do more, feeling burnt out

[mellow pilot]

I have a solution for you

[sour patrol]

[mellow pilot]

You need to find another game

[sour patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/demogorgon-dbd-demogorgon-stranger-things-stranger-things-dbd-dead-by-daylight-nodding-gif-8106268059825634198

[slate hearth]

random question; have you guys messed with the cooldown manager at all? i enabled it but couldn't reposition it or interact with it at all in edit mode

tried relogging/reloading and whatever

[woeful geyser]

it is overall very very very barebones rn

[ember nest]

a good beginning

[novel epoch]

In heroic gallywix, when you pick up the bombs do you drop them if you press a damaging ability? Tonight I swear I picked one up and it immediately yeeted the nanosecond I pressed mutilate

[main peak]

it shouldnt

it does yeet off if u get hot by a beam, or if u spammed the special action button

[willow ferry]

Iv main a assassation rouge since I started playing in November, but outside raid my dps is insistent, someone suggested I try outlaw, I did and my on dummy I sustained my top dps 1.6m, and I'm doing much better in dungeons. How ever I still want to play assassination, so I'm wondering if it's possible to play. Both, assassination for raid and outlaw for everything else? Bis is vastly different but have bis one spec then just have bis for both weapons.

[main peak]

its possible to do that
u can get gear for outlaw and be relatively fine on assassination as sin doesnt have strict stat requirements
would just need daggers for sin

[warped adder]

hey friends, SIM for M+, do I do dungeon slice? or patchwork 5 targets 5 minutes ?

[ember nest]

slice should be good

[thick knoll]

Hi, stupid question but their is not a better spec for m+ between sin or outlaw right ?

[mellow pilot]

Whatever you feel like playing

Unless you're doing extremely high keys (if you were you wouldn't be asking), spec does not matter

[thick knoll]

Yeah that's what i thought. I like both but i feel like outlaw rely a lot on the main weapon. Where sin don't care much

[mellow pilot]

False

Assassination best upgrade is most likely the main weapon

offhand is whatever, probably sin's last upgrade

[glad harness]

The best upgrade for all melee specs will always be mainhand/weapon

[brisk sapphire]

Or a hug

[mellow pilot]

Or a kiss

[glad harness]

Yall on somethin today

[mellow pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/thegoon-bigoldgoon-ted-lasso-yes-yes-yes-yes-gif-701975896996955852

[weak flax]

Anyone think the crafting trick may work with these new crafts? Maybe the item is "new" with the upgrade ?

[fringe umbra]

Probably not, but either way its not a huge deal since crests are uncapped

[zealous halo]

im not farming crests on alts

!

[weak flax]

ya i was just trying to save some time lol

[thick knoll]

I didn't say it's not the best. But base damage of weapon feel less an issue for sin than for outlaw.

[fringe umbra]

Some specs scaling more with weapon dps than other hasnt been a thing for over a decade

No spells use "deal x% of weapon damage" as their basis anymore, its all based on AP, which is agility+6xWeaponDps

[left crow]

Probably not working. That said I will try it anyway by having the recrafting done by a guildie who is not on my connected realm. I noticed it loses the "crafted by" name from that...

[woeful geyser]

people throw around SCALING as a buzzword arond so much, its insane lol

spec is strong? IT SCALES GOOD

spec is weak? IT SCALES BAD

when in reality its just blizz throwing their random 4% aura buffs around and no some imginary gain from 2% more mastery lol

[ember nest]

it just used to be some specs did have some crazy scaling

but nowadays it is just a roulette of buff/nerf

sub was kinda funny on that because we used to have a passive that was better than assa/combat

that gave agi%

so we mooned at the end of expansions

but they kinda killed it on legion forward

[past yoke]

now we have a roar on shroud

[mighty tangle]

Hmmm

[ember nest]

sinister calling my beloved

at least they reused the icon for sec tech

although i hate the ability

[sour patrol]

[ember nest]

did you know you have earned the maximum amount of

gilded undermine crest

[sour patrol]

I don't like the Valorstone change coming up. Shouldn't be a 25% tax on transferring it to alts. I could really use Valorstones on other characters.

Plus when are they going to let us buy caches

Just this every single week, nothing to spend it on

On reset I can spend some to upgrade a piece I might get from Vault, but then it's back to being capped within the first day

https://tenor.com/view/not-that-im-complaining-im-just-complaining-complain-complaining-protest-garrett-modi-gif-15238970

I'm just a little peeved because I just did a ML+10 with a 650 Lock that really just wanted the completion for Vault, and died on every boss with poor dps.

If it hadn't been for the tank and hunter being 667 and 669 idk if we could've done it

[novel cipher]

that moonkin is still getting it in that other discord. poor guy is just a bag of moonkin bones at the bottom of a neverending flight of stairs

[woeful geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/600818554996260875/1371508161260814588/GbpZcayWEAAFZ3X.png?ex=68236403&is=68221283&hm=cda1459750a4f0b5136da0e1f4d17254d594a9ece40d0d305ae60a47031c5934&

[forest sparrow]

Hi all,

I am new to wow, and even more new to retail - I just hit 80 on my first retail toon, and am looking to get gear to start heroics. On cata classic I ran twilights and heroics, but on retail, what is the most efficient way to get geared up past 606 for heroics?

[inland gale]

delves

[forest sparrow]

Okay, I remember doing one of those but don’t know much about them. I will google, thank you!

[mellow pilot]

Actually, you can just do the nightfall event every hour for a good chance on loot you need, in hallowfall

[forest sparrow]

I will look into that as well, thank you!

[mellow pilot]

Check if you have this on your hallowfall map

[forest sparrow]

Alright, I will! Thanks!

[mellow pilot]

There are 3 daily quests + 1 weekly quest in that zone:

• The weekly quest, of doing that event, awards you with 1 token you can use to buy a champion tier item on the NPC, next to the quest giver.
• The daily quests, when completed, award you 1 bag of stuff, and 1 veteran item each bag, extremely good to gear a character fast.

You can basically get 630+ ilvl in a few days of dailies

[forest sparrow]

This is really good stuff - me and my friends who are all equally as lost me really appreciate this!

[ember nest]

also try to get the 4 keys for delves this week

even if you still cant do t8 bounfitul ones

they drop from many places

[mellow pilot]

If you all just starting, i'd say it could be an interesting idea to just do every single quest you see in each zone for the story, which will maybe help you guys understand the situation in the current expansion a bit better. IF you guys don't really care about that and want to jump straight to doing end game content (raid / m+ / high level delves / PvP), there are a few minmax ways to get that going

[forest sparrow]

When you say every quest, do you mean EVERY quest or just campaign quests? I’ve completed the campaign all the way up to about 50 percent of the way through undermine

[ember nest]

finish undermine if you can it awards a token to craft something

[mellow pilot]

EVERY QUEST! (to be fair it bothered me seeing Exclamation marks ❗ on the map, but most of those quests are somewhat fun so in the end it was worth it)

[forest sparrow]

I definitely will, I just wanted to start dipping my toes into gearing up!

[mellow pilot]

But minimum is Just campaign quests, which as Hachadino said, you get to fight the raid last boss as a solo player event and get awarded a token to craft a piece of equipment that could go up to 550+

[forest sparrow]

I think we’ll probably do this to fill in time between dailies / weeklies and delves!

[mellow pilot]

The problem with WoW and new players is that there's just SO MUCH GOING ON and no one explains whats the best route you could take

Which for veteran players is pretty simple:
Do A, then B, then C, and maybe D?

[forest sparrow]

Haha yeah that’s why I came here tbh, but i appreciate all the help!

[mellow pilot]

If y'all ain't in a rush to do end game content, just literally do whatever you guys feel like

Unlike most players, i don't enjoy the endgame as much as the journey to max level

[sour patrol]

ML+10, we're doing absolute garbage damage I guess (I don't have Details on) and we're barely killing the empowered add in time, and that's with me hard-switching asap

I need one more for full vault

I was actually saving Vanish and DM for the add, ffs

[sour patrol]

[plush dune]

huge cloaks

[violet flame]

I just gotta say guys that I highly highly highly recommend avoiding the Skill Cap Addon AT ALL COSTS. If you don't like it, you're basically stuck with many of its effects. If you upload it then it sets off a nuclear bomb in your UI that is very difficult to clean up even after deleting it and deactivating it. I've spent many hours trying to fix my interface. Not even changing to all default settings removes some of its settings.

[fervent ibex]

.. what

[novel cipher]

It probably did a bunch of changes to the config.wtf file through commands if I had to guess

[fervent ibex]

ye but there's always a way to reset your settings

many different ways, with varying effort

that addon also asks you what you want when you're setting it up

similar to elvui

[violet flame]

Been using chat gpt to try and fix things but still to no avail. just to name 1 example, I can no longer put spells on action bar 1. It's there, but dragging spells onto it does nothing.

[novel cipher]

Oh man that's brutal

[fervent ibex]

definitely sounds like something more than skillcapped ui is going on

[novel cipher]

I personally would just delete the whole wtf folder and start from scratch

[fervent ibex]

^

[novel cipher]

Yes you'll have to start from scratch but it's better than trying to chase ghosts

[fervent ibex]

i've used their addon and gone back to normal UI just fine

so something else you've got going on is clashing with something

[novel cipher]

Also shout out to making backups of your wtf folder

Especially before messing with UI overhaul stuff

[oak tartan]

Everyone needs to fuck up the ui once to start collecting backups

[novel cipher]

big true

[thick knoll]

Ok, i thought it was still the case. I got a okayish dagger as sin and a blue sword as outlaw and i got 1m DPS change between both sim

[hallow hinge]

!fuu

[ionic forum]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[brisk sapphire]

What is skill cap

[unreal gulch]

Combining the sentences above might get you to the conclusion that its an addon for UI stuff, like elvui.

[fervent ibex]

A wow pvp business

They make UI, vids, guides etc

[brisk sapphire]

Or that it’s a nuclear bomb

[brisk sapphire]

Oh I’ve seen their guides for other stuff

But wondered what the addon itself did

[unreal gulch]

Fair

[fervent ibex]

It’s basically just an addon loader

[brisk sapphire]

But wow has one built in no?

[fervent ibex]

It’ll load up a bunch of different addons for pvp, whatever ones you choose when configuring it

[brisk sapphire]

Ahh ok

Like a profile?

[fervent ibex]

Naw

They have profiles too

If you’re a sub

But the base addon will just load in everything you need with fairly basic profiles

[brisk sapphire]

What if I’m a dom

👀

[fervent ibex]

You’re not

So

[brisk sapphire]

Wtf

[fervent ibex]

Here we are

[brisk sapphire]

Mean

You’re a twink

[fervent ibex]

Lay down subberboy

[brisk sapphire]

Ok I’m going back to another channel

[fervent ibex]

[brisk sapphire]

I will not take this abuse

!!

[fervent ibex]

Lmao

[still imp]

Watched a man die today

[fervent ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/michaeljordan-crying-sad-pouroneout-gif-16419046386589887451

[still imp]

We were walking out after we cleared and he "hit his mouse while drinking water"

[heavy comet]

Is it hardcore

If so

[still imp]

Yea hc

[woven ivy]

General question about the Dinars, if you down the mythic boss required the same week does it unlock the item acesss the same day , or is it on a weekly reset type system

[mighty tangle]

Great question. If you kill the required mythic boss in the same week the item access should unlock right away you do not have to wait for the weekly reset the vendor updates as soon as you meet the condition.

[woven ivy]

Thank you!

[placid sigil]

does anyone know how to fix issue with addons not loading?

I have tried reinstalling any of the ones with red '?' and that did not work

[mellow pilot]

i know this might sound stupid but have you been updating them on curseforge (in case you use CF)

[ruby totem]

Are they the right versions of the addons

Like are they classic versions or retail or ?

[barren wyvern]

Hey there, was curious if anyone has a WeakAura that can help to remind me when tricks isn't applied? I looked on Wago and only really saw "Auto Tricks" WAs. Don't fully understand how those work so figured a normal reminder would help. If anyone has any other methods they use, open to suggestions 🙂

[mellow pilot]

You dont really need to worry about tricks honestly

its such an underwhelming ability

a tank that does 1 aoe attack will hold aggro afk

[barren wyvern]

Problem is in higher keys I am opening on pulls & sometimes ripping if i forget to tricks the tank and then getting melee'd and dying. Doesn't happen often, But the odd time i space out and forget, i pay the price lol

[mellow pilot]

why are you attacking before tanks tho, and how high we speaking

[barren wyvern]

Im not attacking before tanks - but if a big mob is pulled and not all the mobs have a lot of threat generated I will sometimes rip. In like +12s and up

[mellow pilot]

Then it's a tank problem honestly, even tho i understand your reasoning behind wanting to trick tanks more often

[barren wyvern]

This is purely if i space on using it. So more often than not - i wont because i tricks. But a small reminder that tricks isnt up would be nice

[mellow pilot]

There must be a way to do a quick WA to just show Tricks when its not on CD

@sharp elm Can you help me here please :3

TLDR a WA to just remind that tricks is either on CD or that you have tricks OFF cd

whatever Zeal prefers

(i can't use WA's so i can't really help)

[barren wyvern]

Yeah can be super simple. SOmething in the middle of my screen telling me it's not applied would be solid. Just from an awareness standpoint.

[left crow]

Shouldn't tricks be visible on any group frames? Even the standard UI shows tricks on you and your target.

[barren wyvern]

I have most of those off to save on performance. Don't run the greatest PC out there 🥲

[left crow]

fair enough

[barren wyvern]

Ty for your help btw!! ❤️

[sharp elm]

Yeah tricks off cd is easy

The situation is, you want a reminder when you're opening that you A) don't have tricks on you and you can tricks or B) you don't have tricks on you but you can't tricks cause it's on cooldown

am I understanding that right?

[barren wyvern]

(A) is the one i am looking for

Just a simple reminder that if tricks isn't applied - it needs to be applied. Went into an opener a couple times on +15s where i just dummy spaced and forgot to tricks & then i am insta slammed & starting after a death is brutal. Don't wanna brick anyones keys lol

If i get a good 5 banger roll and then a reset or 2 on BtE & tricks isn't on the tank - I sometimes rip threat on a couple adds and either need to vanish/SM/evasion or die lol. Would rather not have to waste cooldowns/dmg windows because of a simple mental mistake. So just looking for a simple WA

[smoky marsh]

is the gilded achievement bugged? not getting the discount on all my stuff

[left crow]

Showing when it's missing might be a bit obnoxious. Here's a simple weak aura showing a bar when tricks is on your /focus

!WA:2!1vv3UTrru4S1xqLlI0McveueuQOOcsTqtBsjafWRZ6gxCSdR30FqvSz2DM17qxpZOzMnjo31ieQxNhbFhsiUWxWdqEcgfXtqEeYtaZplX0QgFH1Co7zo7577CoFRxR5gohCo4lxESGb4p)XyOm)9gJtPK(0sEkAHz472lltGKEtaWFTuirW1b7EUPgyY54JonesAoLVbftKjnd6gfeEKnVHujqIPep2LEf71PqKFJnJ65BEL57l54bdqCX78P8QJ)TVCedfck5GfpwuMG2grK9lZYW7ojUzJ(rX9JAegXP7q6rkgTvOnGK1qGczUFjbldZOPLI9fmurrBOO(jLcuWUGuzFNNTcjGHir9tZ(gCKo7H93iOtNdnVy7vXqXheU09w5o3DmeLOlGiDDXxlOZgT2SZbLKQ6To7s6uJ3gf5Sni8pNXYOXP0ck)H10)ortqiobu8iny18WFCmJthWrcHJ2)8fM5ChiqfzwQuD(qqblhuB)eaVPljEE101Hai11NeLFOLwDTHN6nwdLq0aDIfp8kQzpsBMasF(aoTKaRCKr5iNJxop7JLODLX2)0(hcKXSyjEikMXrPytfw7Gtd5AxNXU6zDHHuySPI26y7dNIHlWUS1dOus1XJtTZA(n0MN4YdExe068fSp5SsFbAaiDuCwbLYZp0gGzoeNnsD(XCZufks70VBVUbhvDFI00Q87sji1SCn0n(pYnQ(KQj3X2yN2Go407YUyloEVR(tLaOgxGRgfXMZbTCaKUtvcQ9koFQZ5cZWU4)ZRRZ5P7CUkBhkh(yoGT)JRo4WZ2A(oPaTfB(3aj4oeA4ci7dplwYz5DOdJXmtdyC7UDdcJ7e0kAkX0hVhAE2NDw5bosVAGtJL56rZCAbCufTvbqVx(UVHQKuDWNyy8V4AxNO8TWwDB1fulQUJ6UVqTUNAz15v3t9vQzvFJ6(wwx9DQVx1yHzunvRQc2sTI6RvTN4k8W2pyTi1poV6B9u)qTKCeEqU8JSqPKJCRnl2P)6(fuaSvIeuOxLVs4WYcjUUVEfo9kQhvpmTaieMt(cn2nho2U64RdhAwwxSXQRYUOwJOrLcNvWl)aabp0QzTCOqc4YwhIacuFjhrgiZFlnk6De0SmQdj2OzXfi9spuSVjoZeOQN)qaM0sfBJwTLcOsu9sYWeSi)1DpbtC0OoF1pz667PtrBu7lV1sCJyJEnFz1VuxbR7RtLS(Rx(ys(yUvoWQzzK00cjhJia9C2d4aiwtv5UVa0C6kGvZsGHOql3Vyjgozvz0n2mBPO1Z6FKEtwpk0JzlG6tSxFnBB5(8Q2Y((f492dWHH7ywS)T32Ptf5Ek7gTnYGzGu0ZAc0BXKb(a(Z2S9nNADZ(2VxyVw(yjnDBNI5779xZx9kXqiIe2n4rbH(7rPd9MKX1k66wJEFT2jUj2wgxg4N0Vzyqq3RHHjAj70Nls0WmdpOohtm5(v1sFI3ek3qp2(W416f2(N71nQrNXMEl2b9d(pz5f1eNxn2LhuXP9MEv1VpNizPBD7vU1kZT9)8K)9d

[sharp elm]

Tricks is a buff on you

it should just be a basic aura trigger: Show on "Missing"

When you cast tricks it puts a buff on both your target and you

so just use the one on you

[left crow]

It's on you and your target. If you want to be sure it works I would rather check if my target didn't click it away 😉

[sharp elm]

ok well

If someone clicks it away

they're asking for trouble

and that's not your fault

Cause yeah, specifying that it's on another non-party member isn't terrible actually

but either way

it's much simpler to assume people aren't clicking off your buff lol

Smart group, matches that are less than 2

If there are 2 matches, it means your tricks buff is on 2 targets

you, and the target

[sharp elm]

The thing about this is to also consider the fact that if you're checking for when you're missing something, there is a specific use case in your head you have of when that information is relevant, but there is a huge set of time where this information is irrelevant but still true

Keep that in mind

Like, technically tricks isn't up when you're chilling in town

do you want it showing then? probably not

So, you'll have to consider a bunch of other conditions where you care for it to show

[left crow]

can set it to only show in dngeons/raid but still obnoxious to show if missing imo

[sharp elm]

If you mostly care about this for keys you can do this with load conditions

You could have it only when you're in combat

but that doesn't help you if you're stealthed and out of combat

you could have it be "In combat, or Out of combat and stealthed"

while in a challenge mode instance

[mellow pilot]

@sharp elm Thanks Lisonna, and apologies for always pinging you for this kind of stuff, you're the best

https://tenor.com/view/goat-greatest-great-patterrz-amazing-gif-22947854

[barren wyvern]

Yeah for sure - I will give all this a go an see what I can come up with! Will also try the code posted above. Thanks for all your help!

[sharp elm]

np

[surreal void]

does anyone know for alt purposes how the dinars will work if you dont finish the quest this week? since just got a lot of crest farming to go on main

you wont miss out on dinars right?

[azure hawk]

Why cant they implement cast @tank when the roles are in game and they are visible in party, instead you lose your focus macros only for tricks. Would be a nice quality of life upgrade for stuff like that

[mellow pilot]

Totally agreed, but in raid that would be a problem

[fringe umbra]

!tricks

[ionic forum]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[fringe umbra]

This WA does that

[barren wyvern]

So would this just be a one button macro that would default to the tank in a key?

[fringe umbra]

Yes

[mellow pilot]

you do need to get the WA too

[stuck shadow]

Watching the mdi: How did he PI 2 people at once?

https://i.imgur.com/pRaebhe.png

[surreal agate]

i think i read about a bug that caused this to happen sometimes

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/1jxrm1k/me_and_my_group_had_3_power_infusion_out_at_the/

[warm ocean]

Hey. How many Tricks/Misdirects would you say it would take to rip aggro off a tank onto someone else if all Tricks/Misdirects were on that person?

[fervent ibex]

that depends on how much threat you can generate with damage, not the amount of casts of misdirect

if the tank is tanking properly, you will never really be able to send agro to someone else

not unless you tricks them and pull a new mob entirely

[warm ocean]

I'm moreso saying 3 seperate people casting it onto one person. So like funneling 3 DPS aggro into a single DPS

I am a rogue and I have 2 hunters in my raid group that i want to kill someone with.

Lol.

[fervent ibex]

oh

no idea

what rogue spec are you playing

because iirc sub doesn't generate much threat because of Dance

[warm ocean]

Sub 😦

[hearty fog]

yeah you'd have to play assi for that

or outlaw

also outside the pull

tank shouldnt really lose threat

[quasi galleon]

I killed our fury by accident today on gally with tricks by shadowstriking a second early before the DK tank was in reach, that was funny.

[hearty fog]

based

[quasi galleon]

We just downed heroic gally tonight and I was looking at why my parse was low, only to realize theres like 100 people total, and like none of them were also progging it

[inland gale]

As sub?

[quasi galleon]

Yeah

Im in a super casual AOTC guild, but I do alot of m+ so inflated item level , Im 671, but most the raid is like 650s raidloggers

Makes for a weird combo on alot of fights

Like gray parsed mugzee last week, but was top dps, and our frost mage got a 99 for item level but was a just below me. Funny how the numbers mean nothing when not on the edge of pushing content

[hearty fog]

the 11 remaining sub players are really good at it

[inland gale]

This is me too actually. Except I play assa

[trail stream]

it's gonna take a while to grind out all the turbo upgrade crests. how many keys per day do you guys plan on doing? 😛

[warm pagoda]

Hopefully zero, I've got a tonne of lower crests so, we pray

[quaint steeple]

Jesus fck do you know where is the pnj for dinars i m losing my mind

[trail stream]

what's the conversion rate for runed -> gilded?

[warm pagoda]

45 runed to 15 gilded

I worked it out, 416 gilded

[trail stream]

and you need 480ish?

[warm pagoda]

Okay I'm at least close

[trail stream]

yeah thats gonna be quick, nice one 🙂

[warm pagoda]

Just need to do my weekly vaults that I usually do and I'm there

[noble kestrel]

Damn, you are close. Very nice

[warm pagoda]

I just don't wanna m+ spam, it pains me

[mellow pilot]

Same

[hazy mantle]

!up

[ionic forum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[noble kestrel]

valid

I just got assassinated by a bee disconnect in brewery

[formal fulcrum]

Guys what’s the best way to farm valorstones 😥

[left crow]

Mindless solo farms: fly around echo area collect balls, swim around Siren Isle open chests.

[rare solar]

or just run M+

u get buried in em

[hearty fog]

heroic raid is also a really good source

[sharp elm]

Depends what you mean by best