#subtlety

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dusky yacht
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How is it his fault if blizzard bugged out their released system

lilac stag
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It wasn’t confirmed by blizzard and you only get 1 roll in raid.

You really can’t be this dense.

swift tinsel
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actually mb it was late wednesday

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a few hours before they said they fixed it

keen dome
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Also we didn't know if it was impacting the raid rolls, too. We had no way of knowing this because you can only roll once a week in the raid

lilac stag
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after the fact my entire raid now has 0/4 in the loot ledger

wanton mantle
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WHICH IS why i said if you rolled on tuesday you should 100% be refunded if you spent after tuesday man look up just a tiny bit of info

dusky yacht
keen dome
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But I play in the EU

wanton mantle
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But there refunding everyone which at that point just give everyone 2 rolls and call it a day

keen dome
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So I guess, by your logic, I shouldn't get a refund

bleak night
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eu doesnt exist

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fake country

wanton mantle
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+1

swift tinsel
keen dome
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This is why we left the EU.

warm marlin
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london is my city

lilac stag
keen dome
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To play WoW

somber sun
warm marlin
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or england

somber sun
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europe are pros at gatekeeping keys

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major even

keen dome
swift tinsel
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or can even access wowhead or similar sites in their country

keen dome
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I recall there was..

dusky yacht
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This is so ironic

warm marlin
keen dome
warm marlin
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awit

lilac stag
warm marlin
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you mean canada

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yes there is

keen dome
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yeah

swift tinsel
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discord is an echo chamber when it comes to info proliferation

keen dome
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I guess that fits

swift tinsel
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but there are many, many people who play the game that aren't familiar with either classcords or wowhead/IV/mmo-champ etc

chilly dagger
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will we see some more Assas on +18++ Keys or is Assa still preferred? At least the raider Io top 100 seem all to switch to assa from Sub 😮

swift tinsel
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who absolutely could have been affected by the dupe bugs

warm marlin
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we knew about the bug well ahead of time, but we aren't gonna sit there and hold our reclear until they fix it and for many of us gaze was a far stronger upgrade than any other option so we are forced to roll

wanton mantle
warm marlin
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we had already killed beloren by the time they fixed it

keen dome
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I only have time to kill Chim on Weds. So it's either do it then or miss an entire week regardless.

swift tinsel
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this was what I was responding to, which doesn't match that statement

wanton mantle
warm marlin
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Im pretty sure out of like the 8 people that rolled I also was the only one who actually hit

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rip to all my other guildies

keen dome
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rip

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Honestly, if you got Gaze you should be made to give it to me.

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That's a good fix

warm marlin
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true and real

wanton mantle
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Raid is already screwed cuz u only get to roll once anyway so getting 2 extra rolls really doesnt help your raid situation so its a sum 0

warm marlin
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yeah anyone who rolled in raid before fix is just screwed either way

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it is what it is

keen dome
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Yep

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I will get another belt on reset, nothing will stop it.

lilac stag
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Loot spec outlaw.

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That’ll stop it

wanton mantle
# swift tinsel tho?

Basicly what im saying repeatedly is give everyone 2 n move on this is not much different than sparks from TWW. If they were gonna limit then limit the people who spent in the first x amount of time before the info was WIDLY out there, there was a problem

warm marlin
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I was outlaw loot spec!

lilac stag
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I git my gaze as pirate

swift tinsel
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got it

bitter cliff
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is premeditation also still bugged with ancient arts?

warm marlin
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i cant wait to go into pit with my 2 refunded rolls

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hit twice in there

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and be in generational crest debt

keen dome
swift tinsel
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indestructible dagger

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leech ring

bitter cliff
lilac stag
dusky yacht
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I highrolled mythic gaze last night so they can keep their refunds I'm a happy customer

swift tinsel
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probs getting pit legs again between getting those tho

keen dome
swift tinsel
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bc the plot

warm marlin
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I'm pretty sure if I did the math correct I would have enough tokens to go clean pit out the normal way even if I hadnt gotten the refund by the time I have crests to spend on them

keen dome
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I'm getting both the Nexus rings

swift tinsel
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I think I can have enough crests with this reset to max 2 more items

keen dome
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I went and did the ?? fight just to max out my Voraius dagger and Guidon

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Now I am out of gilded

plush roost
keen dome
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So even if I get both rings, I won't be maxing them for two resets. And even then if I get gaze, it's longer

swift tinsel
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I wouldn't mind if they double crest cap weekly instead of increasing by 100

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let me degen plz

lilac stag
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I’m thankful i don’t have any major crests items that aren’t 6/6. eventually I’ll get the tier stuff fully upgraded.

dawn gyro
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Hey guys, rogue junkie here, played og vanilla to cata and now started mop classic after all this time. Im playing subtlety rn but im confused with the glyphs in mop classic, any thoughts?

lilac stag
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Wrong channel

plush roost
bleak night
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that is fake news yes

lilac stag
bleak night
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you fell for the ragebait

dawn gyro
plush roost
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Frigg

keen dome
plush roost
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I wish it was real news lowkey

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Would be cinema

keen dome
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Because that would completely fuck over everybody who made Myth raid rolls

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You'd basically be out 2 rolls forever lol

alpine wraith
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fakes neweset

wanton mantle
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that would be HILARIOUS, but also incredibly dumb which is why its believable by blizzard standards lol

lilac stag
keen dome
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we should care about the important players: battle peters

swift tinsel
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hm Festering Scythe becomes self-buff, W shit

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was looking for that blue post and saw uhdk one lol

keen dome
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I imagine they're gonna fix shadow blades next or on monday

swift tinsel
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it would be nice, but I am less optimistic

keen dome
swift tinsel
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I aim to be pleasantly surprised

keen dome
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I'm hopeful

swift tinsel
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heck yeah

keen dome
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Right?

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I'm literally nobody and they took the time to reply. If they were bullshitting, they could just ignore it.

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So I'm pretty positive on it being fixed soon.

swift tinsel
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I wasn't even aware of that account lol just the usual WoW CS one

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oh that's bluesky

keen dome
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Yeah

swift tinsel
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makes sense why I wasn't aware lmao

keen dome
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I only know about it 'cos I follow one of their head social media people

swift tinsel
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does jb tweet there bc he's pretty much the only reason I still check twitter lol

keen dome
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no idea

fair stump
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What's our rotation on exactly 2 targets cleave, like dragon? evisc or black powder?

jade urchin
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did they really hotfix stealth sound but not cloud cover casting distract

keen dome
alpine wraith
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im also aware of many things

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trust

jade urchin
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thats better than usual

final agate
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Well color me surprised.

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They replied and are working on it... The latter I'll believe it when it happens.

wintry heart
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!bugs

wicked joltBOT
wintry heart
keen dome
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I asked if they were aware of and working on the 30 energy cost shadow blades bug

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and that's their reply

burnt panther
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!I've always played Outlaw, but I'm doing pretty good damage with Suty, while Outlaw is garbage. Is it because I'm getting old and can't keep up anymore? 😭 Or is Suty just as good as Outlaw, or even better?

alpine wraith
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outlaw is very good rn

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you dont like how it plays?

ashen warren
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outlaw is best especially in st

burnt panther
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Well, it seems I'll have to keep practicing.

ripe kestrel
vale pine
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after doing some keys

bitter cliff
vale pine
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i like this talent combo the best

final agate
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Even though premed scuffs the first bit of AA?

vale pine
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yes

final agate
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I've been playing with both and honestly, you're not wrong.

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Playing without premed suuuucks.

next pulsar
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!fuu

wicked joltBOT
vale pine
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i tried both, and it feels better

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damage wise, i saw no diffrence

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tfd i also kinda like

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warning sighn rly made no diffrence

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so idk why people like it

coarse hound
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Export talents

final agate
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Yeah, I saw no difference there either.

coarse hound
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I want

spiral pewter
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why do we even play without prem?

final agate
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I go execution pretty much always

final agate
fair stump
spiral pewter
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what is AA ?

final agate
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It's a big for sure that they have to fix.

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Ancient Arts, our Apex talent.

spiral pewter
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aaa seriosly? damn

vale pine
vale pine
fair stump
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Would you run that same setup for dragons and paladins?

vale pine
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or ancient arts

final agate
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Rogue stay buggy.

vale pine
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the apex talent

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!premed

wicked joltBOT
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  • The first Ancient Arts cannot proc while Premeditation is up, which is why it is a DPS loss to talent into it as the Shadowstrike clones with rotten up can crit insanely hard.
  • There is also a bug that makes it so while Premeditation is active you cannot get a refund nor spawn the clone from Ancient Arts 3. (This does not matter much numerically, but feels weird)
final agate
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At this point it's a feature OMEGAKEKW

narrow tartan
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Question, I currently have 597 haste, haste breakpoints say 700 with guidon. Tried simming a crafted 285 crit/haste and crit/mastery neck, the crit/mastery neck sims higher meaning I lose 90 haste but gain more mastery, is that correcT?

final agate
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Oh so it's scuffed twice over. I thought it was just the first clone proc... They need to get the QA tea--.. Oh wait.

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Nevermind

arctic heart
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excluding alleria necklace, what best neck we can get?

plush roost
arctic heart
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thank you sir

undone cliff
spiral pewter
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!fuu

wicked joltBOT
final agate
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Sims acting funky?

undone cliff
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Outlaw is highest now? Dang it

fair stump
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How are you guys playing paladins?

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Aside from rerolling outlaw

undone cliff
fair stump
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But like, BP?

undone cliff
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Yep when all three stack. If we run and only two I use evis

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Fully aware I’m about a mid rogue but trying to learn

final agate
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Yeah, outlaw got a pretty big buff, ~13% across the board I think

undone cliff
craggy flare
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Do you guys pop cds immediately on mythic chimaerus in the second group or do you wait for madness to go off first?

narrow tartan
undone cliff
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Send that 700 haste or close. I rather be 720 instead of 685. That’s after oils and flask if needed.

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I use crit flask since patch though

narrow tartan
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I use crit in raid, mastery in dungeons

somber sun
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if I already have guidon, would it be better to spend bonus rolls on 2 bis myth items instead of the DR heroic trinket ?

bitter cliff
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Mm so is guidon or puzzle box better? Im still using guidon, but bloodmallet sims puzzle box super high

red vortex
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!fuu

wicked joltBOT
fair stump
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What you can do is run DR hero to see if you can get it from a drop

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instead of spending a bonus roll on it

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But gaze should provide you more dmg than a myth non trinket item

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You can always sim it yourself to be more sure about it

modern matrix
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hey guys, back from break, is guidon better than box in MM+ as sub overall ?

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i have normal guidon but hero box

timid rose
vernal drum
ashen warren
vernal drum
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as always

final agate
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Two best trinkets, period.

wintry heart
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Does anyone have the shadowmeld and strike macro

lilac stag
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It won’t work, just like dance it has a server tick. Press meld. Press strike.

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otherwise enjoy your backstab

dusky yacht
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And also mald

fossil forge
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the swap to the darkside is not going well

final agate
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That should teach you a lesson. bceStare2

dusky yacht
fossil forge
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im naked though

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calma

dusky yacht
fossil forge
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i dont even have a 4 set haha

dusky yacht
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Why you even doing this to yourself

final agate
dusky yacht
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You don't even have gems

fossil forge
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i literally started this char today

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i just did 1 weekly key

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every week :D

dusky yacht
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Oh

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In that case

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Nice job

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This shows the importance of context

fossil forge
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truers

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i was rocking a ilvl 204 mainhand till now so we are rich

dusky yacht
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Did get myth gaze last night tho and it is kinda big but nowhere near 80 ilvl on mainhand level I imagine

fossil forge
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i kinda have the game finished on my other rogue

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just need crests

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(and alleria neck)

dusky yacht
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I still need a lot of myth pieces

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But I'm proud of my guild since I joined we progged 1/9 to 4/9 in a few weeks

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Must be the atrophic

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Right guys

fossil forge
wintry heart
timid rose
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Other.. other rogue?

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You have more than one?

fossil forge
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i have 3

dusky yacht
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Teekoh you know you can select another class right

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Are you okay

fossil forge
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yes

timid rose
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Just teasing. I had 4 max monks in tww

fossil forge
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i also have a warrior and dh

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and a unholy

dusky yacht
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Oh you have a dh

lethal thorn
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!fuu

wicked joltBOT
dusky yacht
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spits on the ground

fossil forge
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its lvl 80 calm down

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XD

dusky yacht
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This is a rollercoaster for me emotionally

fossil forge
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timewalkings r up this week so i might lvl it though

dusky yacht
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Aaand back to spitting

fossil forge
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i would play havoc.

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i dont like casters

somber sun
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hahah dk and a dh, just in case things get out of hand OMEGAKEKW

dusky yacht
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... Now you're cool again

timid rose
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Up until 2 weeks ago I had <2 days of overall rogue playtime on my 20+ year acct

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Now I am all in on sub

dusky yacht
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I think a fitting analogy is a fentanyl addiction

fossil forge
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i miss refreshing my cds with finishers

somber sun
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is there a class kinda similar to rogue

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wanna level a random toon ngl

fossil forge
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only reason im doing law

timid rose
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Feral?

opal shadow
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You're 3 days late to the party Rumb, we've all gone home to assin

fossil forge
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wrong channel bozo

timid rose
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I won't go sin

dusky yacht
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It's okay guys I'm watching him from da bushes

timid rose
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I used to feral... If I wanted a dot class id go back there

dusky yacht
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I was complaining to a guy who has been maining feral for years about how ignored I feel as Rogue and I sure learned something that night

timid rose
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I've been a monk main since legion, and before that I was feral...

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I know all about being ignored.

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It's ok though. I find the communities for those classes/specs tend to be stronger and more friendly

tidal solstice
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cant really say the same about classes though.

ashen warren
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the first dance is just so good in some dg

tidal solstice
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like druid as a whole certainly hasnt been as neglected as rogue

timid rose
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Yeah but not everybody plays all specs in the omniclasses

tidal solstice
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must be nice

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to have more than one role. or, to be able to say "no i dont play that spec, you need to buff this spec" and then blizz does it. meanwhiles rogue specs can be trash and were expected to play the best one, not the one we like

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unlike say, ret, or feral.

timid rose
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Yeah it's kinda crappy

tidal solstice
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its super shitty

timid rose
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But sometimes you are ww and still get ignored 🙂

final agate
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Don't worry guys, they understand because they play the game right along with us OMEGAKEKW

tidal solstice
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"oh hey were kinda heavy on melee this fight, mind swapping to tank or heals??"
druid/monk/paly etc: "yeah sure boss"

rogue: "guess ill warm the bench"

lethal thorn
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man wtf since patch i dont get any inv for m+ anymore and poeple are asking for outlaw all of sudden....

mighty citrus
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make ol range spec!

tidal solstice
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even though youll probably dumpster mode other pugs in the 10 range

lethal thorn
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its not like we got nerfed we still ended with a buff to wtf is this logic

plush pecan
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well thats gamer community

broken saffron
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I need to know If im having a stroke or not. ever since the patch i feel like its clunky to play. Generating combo points is wierd

plush pecan
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its either BIS or META

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everything else TRASH

lethal thorn
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and our dps profile is in my opinion better anyway

somber sun
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fair enough

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" bro we are looking for triple dh devourer for our +10 key "

vale nebula
plush pecan
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What is a solid note?

ashen warren
coarse hound
lethal thorn
somber sun
plush pecan
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9/9M CE - AHOC - 4000 Rio 289 Ilvl Bis Sub roqe

somber sun
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other than that its pretty fine

plush pecan
cloud barn
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Is there a certain level of key - 16-17+ - where sin fully outshines sub? Or is there a diff reason it’s the rogue spec in high keys

vale pine
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the message he referenced

vale nebula
lethal thorn
plush pecan
vale nebula
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That note gets me invited a lot

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Grab cables forsure

vale pine
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can now join me raging if the tank puts you in combat when 1 sec is left of tfd

vale nebula
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Also the gold dps pots are actually huge that extra 100 agi is insane

vale pine
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tho i am surprised, i don't mind no premed in raid

ashen warren
grand hemlock
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Puts you in combat? My tank perpetually never leaves it.

vale pine
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but in keys i actually disslike it

vague oar
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I tell people I have cables then never use em cause I'd rather wipe than lose 3 seconds of uptime

plush pecan
vague oar
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Nope u just buy em on the ah

lime sphinx
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i got a question, because of the rotten is it more optimal to enter dance, shadowstrike and then st or have combo points built up beforehand like how it was before and just shadow dance st

plush pecan
vale nebula
thin sinew
gilded ferry
vale nebula
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^^^

tidal solstice
thin sinew
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It always has

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what sucks more is they removed the one you can put on armour...

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least it was SOMETHING

plush pecan
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Thanks

tidal solstice
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im ready boss

plush pecan
broken saffron
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anyone?

thin sinew
vale nebula
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Cast time

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Get the gold cables

dusky yacht
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Vanish SS makes it kinda fun

rigid delta
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Is there an addon that can remind you to supercharge before a pull? 🤣 miss WA 😭

dusky yacht
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I always forget

shell relic
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Hey all have a question, How much crit do I need to bring?

shell relic
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ahha

dusky yacht
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Nah but like

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I'm going for a balance of crit and mastery.

shell relic
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How much do you have?

dusky yacht
heady lotus
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When playing Sub now is it a good idea to over-generate CP's for the ancient art stacks? (New to Midnight rogue)

dusky yacht
shell relic
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okay thanks

dusky yacht
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This way my flask makes me lean towards either one

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Crit flask for ST/raid, mast flask for m+

shell relic
dusky yacht
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haste

shell relic
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so its okay my stats?

tidal solstice
dusky yacht
chilly dagger
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which keys are you running usually? which level?

shell relic
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okay

dusky yacht
chilly dagger
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for the purpose of pushing keys 😄

dusky yacht
chilly dagger
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and that would be? 🙂

dusky yacht
vale nebula
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Crit feels like it does nothing for me. I had real high mastery last week and swapped it out for Crit and I’m doing 15/16/17 - it felt like my DPS dropped pretty heavily when I got more crate. I’m thinking I’m going heavy into mastery and sticking around 700 haste

vale nebula
lilac stag
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If you talent PP you want mastery. That simple.

bleak night
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my pp desires mastery

dusky yacht
final agate
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Caverns is ass

dusky yacht
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If tanks could just decide on a route that would be lovely, it's like a box of chocolates, I never know what pulls I'm gonna get

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But I'm prolly behind on m+ tbh, I was focused on farming xenas for my ring for like a week, 42 xenas runs before I got it.

broken saffron
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I apologize for repeating myself. But need to know If im having a stroke or not. ever since the patch i feel like its clunky to play. Generating combo points is wierd . Did they change anything about it?

strong light
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!fuu

wicked joltBOT
dusky yacht
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This is because premed is a DPS loss overall

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But it feels bad if you enjoyed instant full cp on ST

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However, if there are multiple targets, just press shuriken storm problem solved

broken saffron
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thank you

tidal solstice
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any other classes have talents that are dps loss just to streamline openers?

dusky yacht
# broken saffron thank you

yw, it's a minor dps loss to get premed anyway though, but I still play without it because I'm a masochist maybe

gleaming crane
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how bad is it if we would still play premeditation ?

tidal solstice
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.3-4%

dusky yacht
dusky yacht
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It's in the pins.

dusky yacht
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I mean life could be better, we could have no bugs and everything made sense with our apex talent, and stuff like that

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But I'm happy with the buff we got

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Buff(s)

broken saffron
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What buffs? aren't we still way worse the the other 2 specs

tidal solstice
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how much better in ST is crit over mastery? cause in aoe it feels like mastery really outscales crit

vale nebula
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I agree ^^^

gilded thistle
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we aren't worse than assass are we?

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I thought sub was still best

somber sun
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kappa

dusky yacht
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We got buffed, whether we're better than other specs or not, I don't really care. I'm enjoying sub.

broken saffron
gilded thistle
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yeah I guess in high keys that makes sense

dusky yacht
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I mean sure in high keys it's different, but I don't play keys mainly, I raid mainly

broken saffron
somber sun
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yeah sub in raid is insanely smooth, just kinda hard when bosses have a lot of mechanics or you spend a lot of time moving around

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but maybe that's just cause im boosted

iron obsidian
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nah these raids arent melee friendly

restive lynx
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I would be more inclined to try outlaw if it didn't hate mastery - I don't mind sticking to sub though since I enjoy it anyway

fiery fog
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we love pugs

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luckily i only waited 20 minutes for an invite

dusky yacht
fiery fog
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longer pulls arent good for sub

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you are higher if the pulls die faster

dusky yacht
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Well yeah but I mean comparatively

fiery fog
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ah

chilly dagger
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maybe thats why sin seems to be played more in higher keys, its damage seems to rather build up

fiery fog
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well

chilly dagger
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and priority damage on a single mob seems nice too

fiery fog
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if the deathmarked target is dead too fast sin is useless

fringe lava
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i just want sub to be dead

every week i upload my droptimizer and have to tell the officers that some of the dropmizer gears that shows 0dps increase is actually 1000+ if i put on different rings or change my crafted stats to drop/add some haste

tidal solstice
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i love sub, please dont let it be ded

fiery fog
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suddenly everything with haste is a giga upgrade

fringe lava
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nah they compare it with the talent im playing in raid

fiery fog
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freaks

fringe lava
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only that way cuz some people sandbag

somber sun
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you swap specs, class even ? HOLY

oak maple
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have they fixed shadow dance energy cost?

lucid jackal
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What

oak maple
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the bug with the trickster talent

lucid jackal
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Oh You mean blades?

oak maple
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shadow blades

lucid jackal
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No, but they have said they are aware of it

oak maple
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oops

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we need to cry louder than DKs (impossible)

boreal tiger
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its nice the dmg from cloud cover but dude, i can't see a thing

somber sun
lucid jackal
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partical density

boreal tiger
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will try that, like there are areas i don't see

grim wasp
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with nebulous cores being on the bench is not that bad

hollow raptor
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i think the smoke bomb bug was fixe=d

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someone confirm

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in a key rn and sblades not taking energy

oak maple
lucid jackal
patent lichen
grim wasp
oak maple
#

neck

oak maple
#

pants are good too

grim wasp
#

pit of saron gonna do fine bro

oak maple
#

i sent my first roll on chimaerus because i still dont have mythic gaze

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forever stuck with normal gaze

sharp pecan
hollow raptor
#

will check after

grim wasp
#

chim imperator only 2 myth i need i think

oak maple
#

kinda same

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hc > myth guidon and norm > myth gaze

#

dont rly wanna roll dungeons ngl

patent lichen
#

ok they fixed it for sub but not outlaw

#

you got me guys

hollow raptor
#

w

grim wasp
oak maple
#

already have voracious dagger so rolling for a weapon is sidegrade

timid rose
#

as an aotc raider and primarily concerned about my M+ itemization, torn on where i should be spending mine still 🙁

grim wasp
#

going to find it difficult to get motivation to raid now with cores in M+

oak maple
#

my rogue's vaults have been ass since week one

dusky yacht
white nova
#

oh they fixed the energy cost for shadow blades

oak maple
#

last person in my guild without mythic gaze

white nova
#

yay

dusky yacht
#

If it makes you feel better I did 42 xenas runs for omission cause I got occlusion in vault as myth

patent lichen
#

they fixed it for shadow blades and not adrenaline rush

white nova
#

ooof.

patent lichen
#

this is a w for the community

somber sun
oak maple
#

basically

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i ended up taking stuff to speedrun hero achievement for my alts

#

i was that downbad

dusky yacht
oak maple
#

sockets for my jingle bells

dusky yacht
#

Put some pure mastery gems in there

#

AoE females

oak maple
somber sun
#

no wonder bro getting insta invited

frank wolf
#

Outlaw gets the bigger buff we get the bug fix

dusky yacht
#

Some men die of thrist, Litvi gets sick ilvl parses with sockets.

oak maple
somber sun
#

yo why they didnt put " mythic tokens " so I dont have to run 40 pos everyday to get neck piece

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everyone is already 280 ilevel just wrap it up

somber sun
#

dont tell me vault is the solution

oak maple
#

i love playing the slot machine

frank wolf
#

Bonus rolls garf_sit

somber sun
#

tbc was so good for that ( tokens )

frank wolf
#

You get 3 chances at a week bud

somber sun
#

this expansion is over anyways

#

im counting on blizz to make rogue top 1 dps on charts next expac

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garf_sit insta invited, can't wait

dusky yacht
#

Wait that's it

swift tinsel
#

I think they did fix blades

#

just cast it and zero energy cost

frank wolf
#

Pog uwu!!!

timid rose
#

Holy crap.

swift tinsel
#

ye def fixed poguwu

frank wolf
#

Now just make premed give sht stacks and ill delete all my other chars!! Comfy

grave parcel
#

confirmed no cst

swift tinsel
#

@keen dome your CS team is on it!

#

outlaw AR cost surely fixed next

#

now to check the crit bonus

spice matrix
#

someone check if premed triggers AA PEPW

eternal abyss
#

!ui

wicked joltBOT
swift tinsel
#

moment

patent lichen
#

Haptics i was so locked in for that

swift tinsel
#

things weird

#

nvm it was one outside blades

#

false alarm

patent lichen
#

LOL

swift tinsel
#

we still up lol

patent lichen
#

WE'RE BACK

pulsar hemlock
#

What was bugged with the crit bonus?

foggy estuary
#

!log

swift tinsel
#

shhh

pulsar hemlock
swift tinsel
#

perfectly normal critical strikes

sullen flicker
#

i have a question. do we run cloudcover now on aoe? or no sculplets

knotty quail
#

Does pre-pulling 6 Anima-charged CPs via Shadow Dance actually work? I see the blue bubbles, but I'm wondering if the bonus damage is ignored once combat starts.

swift tinsel
#

it resets to 2 on pull

knotty quail
#

Even though I see 6 blue bubbles when combat starts, is it just a visual bug with the UI?

swift tinsel
#

if its a key it should be fine but boss pulls in raid reset it

knotty quail
#

Ah, I see. So it’s just a visual thing while the actual stacks are being reset. Thanks for the info

grizzled sphinx
#

when i switch to puzzlebox in m+ from guideon ineed 800 haste with everything on?

lethal thorn
#

bois found a good way to get invite tag in outlaw spec then swap just before starting xd

timid rose
#

Oh the old boomie feral bait and switch

final agate
#

So the bug is still alive and well?

somber sun
#

I did the same for ilevel in early season

swift tinsel
final agate
#

Oh nice, progress

#

But the AA bug is still going strong?

swift tinsel
#

what AA bug

somber sun
#

ancient arts

lethal thorn
swift tinsel
#

yeah which AA bug

river igloo
#

Is the premeditation bug still a thing?

lucid jackal
#

Its not really a bug

knotty quail
#

Is the Premeditation bug still a thing? It's so frustrating that the first Shadow Dance doesn't fully cap my combo points.

lucid jackal
#

Its not exactly a bug just an unfortunate interaction

pulsar hemlock
#

Feature, really.

somber sun
#

they really acting like their life is on the line

#

if we dont time it...

#

bro relax

lethal thorn
final agate
#

Don't you know, M+ is cereal business.

lucid jackal
somber sun
#

got the evokers that do same damage as tank too ? garf

final agate
#

When you out DPS the flavor of the xpac, even after it got a buff...

#

Damn, at that point just hang it up.

somber sun
#

based on a true story

#

also he wasnt joking

final agate
#

Playing the class/spec you enjoy> flavor of the month. Always wins

dusky yacht
somber sun
#

ikr

final agate
#

Alright, 'sghetti or pizza?

dusky yacht
boreal tiger
#

yes

final agate
#

My guy trying to put me in food coma

dusky yacht
final agate
#

A real homie

#

❤️

dusky yacht
#

❤️

somber sun
spice matrix
swift tinsel
somber sun
#

what's your crit amount ?

dusky yacht
#

Wtf

swift tinsel
#

31% with flask

dusky yacht
#

Mine is critting for 200k in raid and I'm 281 ilvl

#

What's your secret

earnest crane
#

phsyc comp power 😄

spice matrix
#

im at 35% with crit flask

swift tinsel
spice matrix
dusky yacht
#

Bro how

bleak night
#

just crit?

swift tinsel
#

r2 pots and a prayer

dusky yacht
#

I'm using r2 pots

swift tinsel
#

idk I just push buttons

bleak night
#

crit harder

swift tinsel
#

that's with PE too lol

swift tinsel
#

little help

#

but the crit variance is real

dusky yacht
#

I'm logging on right now and I'm not logging off until I figure it out

swift tinsel
#

pull to pull damage is funny

dusky yacht
swift tinsel
#

imagine if I had a myth MH

swift tinsel
dusky yacht
#

But I have that one

swift tinsel
#

r2 eyes of the eagle x2?

dusky yacht
#
  • myth gaze, myth guidon
#

myth mainhand

somber sun
swift tinsel
#

I thought it was already buffed

dusky yacht
#

I am so confused

#

Is this on a dmg amp?

somber sun
#

no no don't follow my words, im 90% of the time clueless

#

just asking

swift tinsel
#

oh lol I never actually looked at that post

trail bison
#

just crit harder garf

dusky yacht
#

wtf?

swift tinsel
#

ye I mean that's really all there is to it

#

just gotta crit harder

fossil forge
#

on wowlogs

trail bison
#

dmg done -> events

frail kindle
#

yeah bro i love the fat shadowstrikes so much feels so good

dusky yacht
#

This is so weird

#

I genuinely do not understand

lucid jackal
#

Last 8 of baldes

dusky yacht
#

Is it PV?

somber sun
knotty quail
somber sun
hazy breach
#

But it was the best before that anyway

somber sun
#

👍

fossil forge
#

they gave out the saddle it seems

somber sun
twin quartz
#

Is there any more information on why, for whatever reason, there’s a second or two delay before I can hit my second shadow dance in blades? I slam the button for so long and end up sending it off global

dusky yacht
fossil forge
#

not many people experience this

#

it was mentioned like 3 times

twin quartz
#

I just don’t know how to play around it. Macros don’t help like someone suggested. Instead, the sectech+dance macro just sends sectech

dusky yacht
somber sun
#

damn okay okay

dusky yacht
#

So my max SS crits are 237k

#

Maybe I lowrolled like mad or something that vorasius idk

frail kindle
#

run less mastery

fossil forge
hazy breach
frail kindle
#

crit vers stonks huge shadowstrikes

hazy breach
#

Except with tfd in keys

dusky yacht
fossil forge
#

nah but sometimes its literally like

#

2-4 globals

#

before i can dance again

hazy breach
#

Weird

fossil forge
#

i cant even recreate it it happens so randomly

twin quartz
#

But it’s just infuriating me because I don’t know how long to hold it before dance will work again

#

Sometimes it’s up to 3 seconds

hazy breach
#

Ye i have no idea, havent experienced it

twin quartz
#

Yeah, it feels so scuffed right now

grizzled bay
#

blizz fix shadwblade cost?

bleak wind
#

if it happens mostly with tfd then probably a UI bug where the buff disappears on your cdm before its actually down

#

had that happen to me once

twin quartz
#

I’ll look at it

twin quartz
subtle scaffold
#

hey guys, first post here. im a 277 rogue with pretty much full bis. earlier today i did a myth vorasius and i only hit 89k dps. ive checked wowanalyzer and pretty much my rotation was 90% clean. I didn even realise at the time but I even had 3 PI..no aug evokers tho.. i did however miss an aug rune.. is there any pro around here that could check my log and give me any tips?

tepid trellis
#

not to like burst your bubble but 277 is not close to BiS

#

you missing quite a bit of ilvl my friend

somber sun
#

280 and we start thinking garf

fiery fog
#

and pi is pretty useless on sub

subtle scaffold
#

i mean in terms of trinkets and having proper haste/mastery/crit

#

i feel like i should be doing more than 89k surely

twin quartz
#

Are you missing a lot of raid buffs?

fossil forge
subtle scaffold
subtle scaffold
tepid trellis
#

it is indeed not

subtle scaffold
twin quartz
#

I always hold a dance after the first soak so I’ll have one for the add spawns

#

Timing works out pretty good

small sleet
#

imagine helping with the adds instead of tunneling boss

fiery fog
#

i have not once in my life hit the adds as sub on vorasius

small sleet
#

could not be me

fiery fog
#

i only use storm to get more cp when they are close

#

xd

young path
#

Anyone test if the old “vanish, storm, reset TFD” works with all these other bugs?

red vortex
#

ii might be very late to this

#

but i noticed today past few hours

#

they hotfixed the 30 energy

#

on blades

subtle scaffold
#

i mean in mythic vorasius usually the adds go really far back - no point to go for it unless u have one fixated on u, no? i never got an add so i full nuked boss

fiery fog
#

HOLY

#

WE ARE GAMING

twin quartz
#

Oh, vorasius and not aversion

red vortex
#

i dont lose 30 energy anymore

#

atleast

twin quartz
#

Me not smart orc

red vortex
#

so idk dracthyr_shrug

fiery fog
#

yeah its fixed

#

dont lose it too

dusky yacht
#

My dumb ass was still using mastery enchant for offhand

trail bison
#

oh did that change

#

whoops

fiery fog
#

some guy in a yt video saying Sub got "massively" buffed

#

is 6% in the "massive" area though

edgy imp
#

do i bind emberwing feather to opener macro with shadow dance ? or do i press it wait 1 second then do opener ?asking for friend hehe

cold citrus
#

same as guidon

fiery fog
#

you need to wait

#

because it doesnt update instantly

somber sun
#

at least he is mentionning it

#

I saw a lot of dudes just skipping over the rogue buffs and went milking the dh devourer ones

edgy imp
#

do we use different embelishments and weapon enchants to favor crit. now ?

small sleet
#

i went from feeling like i was griefing in keys to feeling really strong, so i'd say the buffs were pretty massive imo

fiery fog
#

the guy just talks about all the bugs currently going on/that happened with the patch and even mentioned the 30 energy thing and giga smoke bomb that obscures vision for everyone kekw

small sleet
somber sun
#

but with the shadow blades downtime on trash pulls It feels odd

small sleet
#

tbh i dont even notice any difference in the downtime

#

still feels like i do alright damage outside of cds

somber sun
#

yeah that's fair

dusky yacht
#

I could get my versa up if I catalyst my belt and legs but idk man

naive creek
#

Is there any place to see the exact damage of each ability in raid bots sim? I've scoured the HTML report and found a lot of details, but nothing correlating to the damage of each cast it's predicting.

peak ice
#

Is the haste target like 700-800 in this patch?

tepid trellis
#

700 with guidon

#

800 without it

peak ice
#

Dropping mastery for haste or crit for haste?

desert oasis
#

!wa

wicked joltBOT
tepid trellis
#

you get to the breakpoint and then you just fill the rest with crit/mast

peak ice
#

Right, think it’s just a ring swap then, just got myth psb and it doesn’t seem to be bis anymore

trail bison
thin sinew
#

You can't really rely on sims for gearing atm best do it yourself so long as you're 700~ haste rating anything in crit and mastery you're good

peak ice
#

Solid, thank you

dusky yacht
trail bison
#

not the dmg but the variance

dusky yacht
#

944

peak ice
#

Is versatility not just like pretty worthless?

dusky yacht
#

Yeah but they were doing way more shadowstrike max crit dmg than me

#

This was not useless to figure out, as I realised I was using the damn mastery offhand enchant

#

Versatility was just one angle we were looking at

peak ice
#

Just checking nothing changed on the patch

hazy breach
mortal arch
dusky yacht
#

I can't catch a break man every week I'm still learning new shit

dusky yacht
#

Now I got 244k max in sims

somber sun
dusky yacht
trail bison
dusky yacht
#

I mean my performance keeps getting better in raid and such, so it's not like it's pointless at all

somber sun
#

true true

dusky yacht
#

But I'm gonna sim my catalysting legs and belt to see if a bit more versa would actually be beneficial

#

If it keeps my haste above 684 and increases my dps why not

#

Can't hurt to sim

#

But it says don't catalyst belt

#

Even though I would lose 30 haste from catalysted legs

#

Right yeah I'm just trolling myself atp

thin sinew
#

Whenever i've tried to minmax stats on crafted it just slammed everything from haste mastery to crit mastery and wanted me to have 500 haste apparently 2k dps increase though! 💀

dusky yacht
#

977

#

crit after flask and oils

trail bison
peak ice
dusky yacht
polar schooner
#

is there a sperate macro name for light's potential rank 2?

#

ive tried spell id and rank 2

dusky yacht
polar schooner
#

sure

dusky yacht
polar schooner
#

oh do you ahve to have the conditional [combat]?

dusky yacht
#

Prioritises fleeting r2 > fleeting r1 > r2 potential > r1 potential

#

uhh

#

I didn't write this

#

Stealthi help

#

All I know is

#

It works and it works whenever I want it to

#

I think it also works out of combat

#

It does not

#

Interesting

polar schooner
#

got it

short radish
#

so it wont work if you're trying to prepull for whatever reason

dusky yacht
#

Thank you Fimbul

#

I actually had no idea about that, I'm just vibing

desert oasis
#

!wa

wicked joltBOT
naive creek
somber sun
short radish
naive creek
#

Ya I get it but I don't always want to use Rank 2 if I'm just doing bs stuff

short radish
#

make 2 talent tree load outs then

#

so youre always pressing same bind

bleak night
#

you can also make it only work in raid

#

or in a raid group rather

naive creek
#

To each there own, swapping positions in bag is easy enough for me

short radish
#

i mean sure you can do that and there's nothing stopping you

#

but sounds like more work

#

i used to have two separate binds for each one

#

but i kept pressing wrong one

zenith mirage
#

premed bug fixed?

#

or am i tweaking

short radish
#

so before we were getting free cauldrons

#

i had 2 talent tree load outs for raid

#

one for prog

#

one not

zenith mirage
short radish
lucid jackal
#

Not a bug its an unfortunate interaction

zenith mirage
#

stg i just spawned a clone

#

w premed

hazy breach
#

Weaponmaster can

zenith mirage
#

ah true

short radish
#

how is it not a bug?

dusky yacht
#

I only take them out for raid

hazy breach
short radish
#

ah

peak ice
#

Is it safe to recraft? I cannot find any note in the updates so I don’t want to lose myth crests

meager coyote
dusky yacht
#

So I decided to gamble and I didn't lose my crests

desert oasis
#

anyone have a profile for arcui? orrrrrr nah lol,

#

I miss WA baddddd lol

somber sun
#

why did they remove wa btw ?

#

fact we are still using addons

dusky yacht
#

I've been thinking of getting arcui, does it affect FPS negatively at all?

somber sun
#

nah

#

I have potato pc

#

its fine dw

dusky yacht
#

Nice

#

Now I just gotta get over the fear of messing everything up

twin quartz
#

They didn’t remove weakauras. They did remove combat tracking of auras and most things like that, so now all you can do is reskin what blizzard shows

somber sun
#

yeah mb but you get the idea

#

like

twin quartz
#

I think they’re having trouble defending their decision these days

somber sun
#

there is no real current replacement for outlaw's WA for example

peak ice
#

I dint think they go back on it though

hazy breach
bleak night
somber sun
peak ice
#

There’s a mod called m33k aura that does some decent stuff

drifting ether
#

No one kill vorasius 🤣

worthy dirge
#

When are the rouge Shadow Blades bug and the talent bug going to be fixed?

lucid jackal
#

A few hours ago

twin quartz
#

This week bricked TTS alerts for my raid team, and we have a few raiders that rely on them heavily

meager coyote
#

Wait which "talent bug" got fixed

hazy breach
#

Idk what he meant by talent bug

meager coyote
#

Can someone link me these bugfixes

lucid jackal
#

cloud cover

#

Theres no link

#

Cloud cover doesnt cost 30 energy anymore

drifting ether
#

Oh wth is it fixed i was still pooling to 60

worthy dirge
#

Premeditation bugs been fixed?

lucid jackal
#

No

#

Its not a bug

#

The interaction has not been fixed though

somber sun
lucid jackal
#

Not really

#

It might be a 5 dps increase

#

Not 5%, or .5%

#

it might be 5

somber sun
#

hey we take it

coarse raven
#

hi, where is the best to use the extra loot token ? POS and SR ?

tribal blade
#

from nexus with 1st bonus roll

#

BUT

#

i need myth chest

#

so it's a win

#

hell yeah nice

dusky yacht
somber sun
#

dagger and cloak are not bad

#

then nexus for ring set

drifting ether
dusky yacht
somber sun
#

if you get a bad leather piece you can always use catalyst on it

drifting ether
dusky yacht
#

Kinda sadge

fossil forge
#

Panda feint animation goes hard

dusky yacht
#

I mean I do love human female feint

#

Spinny~

fossil forge
#

im still a ugly maghar orc and i cba

dusky yacht
#

Not me trying to time my screenshot for this epic ponytail moment

#

Give me like 5 min

#

Not the most flattering angle but uhh..

fossil forge
#

Tauren rogue best race anyways

#

u dont want extrahp+aoestop?

#

+best drip ingame?

#

+infinite aura also

dusky yacht
#

+hooves

drifting ether
#

Now thats drippy

somber sun
fossil forge
#

i wish i had a screenshot of my asylum escapist tauren mog

dusky yacht
#

Like how am I supposed to say farewell to this smh.

cobalt surge
#

Hello there.

I'm new to discord and somehow I got highlited in this channel which I havent read yet.
Wenn I write "@ditox" in the search-bar upper right from discord-client: I cant find any direct answers or messages to me.

Any idea how to search for the message, that was meant for me && I havent read it?

somber sun
#

closest you can get to tauren rogue

lucid jackal
#

U probs got pinged by something and it got deleted or smthing

cobalt surge
# lucid jackal Hm?

exactly like this one!

is there a discord-function, where I can search for replies to my messages? I was offline, when that happened it seems

dusky yacht
#

Wait wtf? There is a bind to turn these back on?

lucid jackal
#

Mentions:[name]

cobalt surge
#

doesn't work. maybe cause of the german-client version. nvm ._.

somber sun
cobalt surge
#

but thx @ foreverguy

sand torrent
#

I said Id be back, hours late, after we all forgot about the Xmog posts

lucid jackal
#

But for example

dusky yacht
sand torrent
fossil forge
#

That lou set

#

Head

dusky yacht
#

I loved playing undead male a long time ago back when I arenad as undead warrior