subtlety

[open depot]

But wanna be factually correct

[ivory orchid]

im a green/blue parser love the natural colors

[ornate lake]

New Ring is 0.9% dps increase but brings down deepening shadows from 2.1s to 1.1s.

Worth it bros?

[open depot]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/twisting-nether/skoopi?metric=hps

[ivory orchid]

i am asking ai slop

[open depot]

Its your boi

[ivory orchid]

the king

[hazy breach]

You're probably mistaking something with tfd there

[undone ridge]

my opener atm: Puzzlebox->stealth->shurikenstorm->shadowdance->secrettech->shurikenstorm->blackpowder for aoe pulls

is this gucci?

[hazy breach]

Because one ring ain't gonna give the 800 haste difference you're talking about

[azure thicket]

no you want to use puzzle box before using dance/blades with full combo points

strike in shuriken storm whatever

then puzzle then damage

i'm feeling so bad about my rookie numbers rn

[undone ridge]

okay

[ornate lake]

Oh mah bad it's 1.67s

So 0.5s ish difference

Worth it?

The old ring was 170 haste

New one is critical mastery

[left ledge]

I wake up, click into ravenholdt and there’s someone linking last expansion healing logs on sub

[ivory orchid]

Hell i did that my first raid this tier rolling rogue and just sending it

Rogues are competing for hps this raid tier

[ornate lake]

Man really it's humiliating

[exotic steeple]

i got that rare ring from lura from weekly is that shit good?

[ornate lake]

Like cuckold levels of humiliation

[undone ridge]

sniff xals feet

and ull find the answer

[ivory orchid]

This dude in the shop making purple toe socks with threads around the joints to look like toe rings

[azure thicket]

for the record none of our boss kills last season were in the double digits and i dropped shadow blades on the soul hunters kill by accident or something it was huuuuge

[open depot]

Stop being so fragile lil boi

Have fun in life

[azure thicket]

rip 60 parse tho fr

[ivory orchid]

nah no one remembers that shit

just you

[coarse umbra]

R there any streamer that stream m+ content for sub?

[ivory orchid]

You are a better you, improved and kicking ass this tier

[ornate lake]

Or what? You gonna fuck my girl. Go ahead

[open depot]

I am sure someone streams their weekly keys

[ivory orchid]

damn dude

[azure thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-gif-22320808

[open depot]

Not gonna do anything, bud. Just be kinder to yourself king

Life is always better when you try to enjoy it

[ornate lake]

https://tenor.com/view/still-in-love-zenno-rob-roy-uma-musume-gif-14548998949828054408

[undone ridge]

XD

[dusky yacht]

Why is bro telling us his fetish

[ivory orchid]

Am I in the resto druid discord again

[ornate lake]

No it's actually rogue pov.

Some of us are just self aware. Why not just enjoy the humiliation

[lilac stag]

@tribal blade I just watched the first 5 mins of Tactyks video. WE’RE SO BACK BABY!

[tribal blade]

hell yeah

that moment when it's ok to bring a rogue

[lilac stag]

I don’t think we can field 6 healers. Ahhah

[dusky yacht]

It’s alright your girl told me not to worry she’ll be home by tomorrow and only has a few bruises

[wintry heart]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-this-whats-happening-gif-14760168

[ornate lake]

*boy

[dusky yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-trolling-meme-pc-boys-we-do-a-little-trolling-gif-20726100

[open depot]

Weak mental in the sub channel

[karmic harbor]

for what boss

[median sigil]

should i be hitting shadow blades before or after i hit shadow dance?

[karmic harbor]

i have blades/dance/sectec macrod together

[median sigil]

oh nice

[median sigil]

ive only got shadow blades and my trinket macrod together

[tulip light]

!guidon

[wicked jolt]

Light Company Guidon (haste on use) Optimization:
When? - Only with the Season 1 4-set bonus and Guidon.
How? - During Shadow Blades, line up your second Shadow Dance with the last 8 seconds of Shadow Blades instead of using them back-to-back.
Why? - This allows you to fit another Secret Technique into Shadow Blades+Shadow Dance. It will not be supercharged but thats ok in this scenario.

[karmic harbor]

#showtooltip
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Ancestral Call(Racial)
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Secret Technique

is what im using

wait am i trolling one second

hmm

maybe i should be using ancestral with guidon actually

[azure thicket]

opener from wow head i take it dance is done first

[fiery fog]

If you macro it, it doesnt matter

[azure thicket]

yeah ^

[fiery fog]

Just put sectec last (can maybe matter?)

[karmic harbor]

that means its done at the same time (in a macro)

[azure thicket]

does it? i've been doing it all manually

[worn vector]

did like 150k at end of dungeon and frost mage told me to go play sin rogue....

[native zodiac]

You should

[karmic harbor]

yes, they're meant to all be pressed at the same time

[karmic harbor]

yeah didnt even think about racial

oops

[azure thicket]

shift x dance shift e blades shift 4 trinket ctrl z pot t sec tec

[karmic harbor]

whatever works for you

for some reason the macro command doesnt have that in it i think

!macro

[wicked jolt]

Subtlety Macros:
Here is a macro to make it easier to fit all of your globals into your Shadow Dances:

/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Secret Technique

Deathstalker likes to use this macro instead:

/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Shuriken Storm

This can be combines with trinkes and other cooldown use.

/cast Shadow Blades
/use 13
/use 14
/use Tempered Potion
/cast Ancestral Call

Trickster Rogues can combine Coup de Grace and Black Powder in one button:

/cast Coup de Grace
/cast Black Powder

You can find more macros and details in Guides like WoWhead or Icy Veins.

[karmic harbor]

ig for ds flexibility

but i dont think anyones playing that

[median sigil]

ive done it for vorasius just to straight up tunnel the boss and left the adds to the ranged dps lol. very greedy i know

[exotic steeple]

717 haste to much?

[karmic harbor]

i do that while playing trickster

[golden totem]

Not to much for me

I'm slow

[exotic steeple]

can go to 750 with gems

but somwhere read 700 is good range

[karmic harbor]

i think you want like 700

[azure thicket]

650ish before oils

or you get a haste flask there's options

[native zodiac]

650 without oils is p much perfect

[median sigil]

im sitting at 647 without flask

[crystal bone]

upgrade some haste gear and u gucci

the recommended amount is in the sub faq

[weak cypress]

What dungeon style should I be simming for a mythic+ player?

[shrewd lantern]

The one that rerolls to a better class

but dungeon slice

[lilac stag]

Paladins

We don’t do bis

[worldly root]

assa not the better one anymore on paladins?

[lilac stag]

Rogue in general vs no rogue

[weary tree]

wait what does he say

[worldly root]

i see

[lilac stag]

Or you could do what’s suggested and get to 700 raw haste and look for crit/mastery gear after that.

there’s your fucking bis list

nice bot trigger

[fiery fog]

getting 700 haste and put the rest in crit/mastery is all you need to do tbh

[lilac stag]

sorry you don’t like not having a bis list

[fiery fog]

for m+ prob more mastery

[lilac stag]

could even use one of the new fancy armory sites and see what dungeons drop gear that fits your needs

[short aurora]

yo who hurt you

lil gulp

[lilac stag]

<@&224906552333697025>

[tepid raven]

!ban @silent dune yeah seen enough

[tepid trellis]

[short aurora]

bis lists hurt mankind

[tribal blade]

damn i literally dropped in and managed to see that before the ban

[tepid raven]

I’mma be real I didn’t read the whole thing but don’t think I needed to see more than the last message

[tribal blade]

what happened

[azure thicket]

nothin

[fiery fog]

guy asked if there is a bis list
scath said we dont do that here
the rest is history

[lilac stag]

Lil bro didn’t like me saying we don’t use bid lists, explaining why. Triggered R word then went to filter evasion

[tepid raven]

Crazy to go from r word to the f one

[swift tinsel]

internet be internetting

the CoD lobby escalation

[lilac stag]

people can’t seems to understand there is no bis list & puzzle box is a 3 min trinket.

fuck me

[swift tinsel]

wish Wowhead didn't require them

[short aurora]

i like how he got so offended he looked at your post history

[azure thicket]

you do need some kind of yard stick

[swift tinsel]

it instills an odd mindset in certain people that they need to chase a rigid list of items

[tribal blade]

btw what's our bis list

if you could hit me with it rq

[azure thicket]

but most of us are wearing most of the items on that list

[lilac stag]

[azure thicket]

where's the fib

[tepid raven]

https://tenor.com/view/luntry-luntryifunny-luntryy-gif-26563187

I’ll have you know it’s a 2 min

[azure thicket]

i liked the m+ bis lists cause it made targeting stuff easier before the articles got updated

[swift tinsel]

there's a few folks in guild who straight up refuse to take/equip certain trinkets or items even if its a clear upgrade for them bc its not an A or S-tier trinket in some list

instead of actually simming and seeing Number Go Up for them

[tribal blade]

ERM AKSHUALLY AS SUB IT FUNCTIONS AS A 3 MIN CD

[short aurora]

imagine hc raid guild tells his only rogue to go class discord to look for bis list but can't since he got banned

[tepid raven]

YEAH WELL

[lilac stag]

I’ll have you know…

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1487881361506173028/puzzlebox.gif

[tepid raven]

FUNCTIONALLY DN

[fiery fog]

i get why as its just easier to see what to chase

[tribal blade]

heehee

[fiery fog]

but change one item and its completely different for you

[tepid raven]

I have Guidon I will not use le puzzler

[tribal blade]

i too am a champ track guidon enjoyer

but i have myth gaze

so i'm chilling

[lilac stag]

FYI the liquid armory is really cool for looking at gear. Too bad he was a prick, I would have shared it.

[swift tinsel]

I'm a casual hc guidon champ gaze enjoyer

[short aurora]

Mythic guidon and veteran gaze over here

[tepid raven]

In my chim split this week 2 mythic gazes dropped

But I already had HC so one went to a tank

[tribal blade]

damn we're opposites

[swift tinsel]

got my gaze as a warbound drop from hc chim lol

[tepid raven]

[azure thicket]

outlaw

probably isn't supported

[potent heath]

!addon

[azure thicket]

[potent heath]

flop

[lilac stag]

mythic guidon and champ void trinket

[swift tinsel]

!ui

[wicked jolt]

Essential:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - Enhanced Cooldown Manager.
• WangBar / SensaiBar - Resource bar (when using blizzard CDM)
• MSUF / UUF - Unit frame mods.
• Platynator - Nameplate Addon.
  Quality of Life:
• Buff Reminders - Food/Flask/Poison Reminder.
• WilduTools - QOL enhancements.
• Mute Cold Blood sound

[potent heath]

thx

[sharp seal]

Heroic guidon and rep trink

[tribal blade]

wait there's an addon that mutes CB

[lilac stag]

@tepid raven still having fun post Woyer life?

[tribal blade]

damn

[tepid raven]

But ye ik guide writers avoid bis lists as much as possible because people treat them as gospel when it’s more a general guide but it gets lots of clicks for wowhead and such

[fiery fog]

cb makes a sound?

xd

[tribal blade]

i think i'm used to it now

but at first it was very annoying

[swift tinsel]

yeah its just an unfortunate side effect

[tepid raven]

Like if you remember the ring from OAB that had random stats

[short aurora]

for example my loot council

[azure thicket]

oh sweet liquidarmory be like the in game guide with less clicking

[swift tinsel]

Lol yup

[short aurora]

boy they think i troll them with 700 haste breakpoint

[tepid raven]

A friend of mine had someone in their lose their fucking head over it

[lilac stag]

yes with some nice filter options

[fiery fog]

bis lists only count for weapons with special effects and trinkets imo

[tepid raven]

Because they kept shouting that a HC OAB ring with the worst stats for their class should go to them because it was in their bis list

It was like

[lilac stag]

The solution is just be on LC.

[tepid raven]

High vers low master or something

[azure thicket]

honly

[short aurora]

@cloud rover is that true?

[swift tinsel]

Yeah wayyyyy too few people look at why something might be considered best in slot

[tepid raven]

We are on Birb now so I get to play

I didn’t play Paladins or Alleria

[lilac stag]

You’ve had some nice parses

[fiery fog]

send them a screenshot of the sub faq

[tepid raven]

So I am looking forward to actually playin game again

[fiery fog]

tell them your sub masters told you to do this

[tepid raven]

MY IMPERATOR PARSE YESTERDAY WAS GRIEFED

They fucked the dispell and then on the kill I played bad

[short aurora]

"the crown neck isnt actually an upgrade for you because sim says so"

[lilac stag]

I am on LC and we talked about using droptimizer in wow armory. So I went in and manually imputed everything to not drop below haste

[short aurora]

oh guess why

[azure thicket]

i always die on last boss of a raid first kill fwiw

just went to mechanics jail instead this time

[lilac stag]

neck sims awful if it launches you into 800 haste hahah

[tepid raven]

We use droptimiser in guild and I had to explain that it was good for me I just need to wear a different gear set that would make it look like the best item in the game

[short aurora]

ye thats my point but should i manipulate my sims and just rock some crit mastery rings or what

[worldly root]

!bugs

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Bug tracker: Spreadsheet

[fiery fog]

the sim will commit all kinds of crimes just to get you below 650 haste

[short aurora]

🫏

[lilac stag]

Not manipulating but equip non-haste gear and swap to ap weapon and see what it gives you

[azure thicket]

19% crit is fine

[lilac stag]

you need to do some maths

[short aurora]

ye with only aa ring equipped i go from -1% to + 1.5% on crown neck

[tepid raven]

It is really good you just kinda have to top gear it to show how good it is with the right set up

[short aurora]

[wraith vapor]

hey, is there any way to sim a dagger in OH? droptimizer only selects the slower weapons

[tepid raven]

Show link

It shouldn’t do that

[swift tinsel]

yeah that's sus

[tepid raven]

It might just be a selection thing

[lilac stag]

do you only have 1 dagger?

[wraith vapor]

ah didnt check the "include off-spec items"

that fixed it

[cloud rover]

That aint working for me brother

not even as Guild and Raidlead

But my Grey/Green logs may also be a factor in this

[tepid raven]

But you become the most popular person in the raid after every boss kill if you’re on LC

[lofty lance]

They must revert the nimble change and make it so evis and strike cleaves again

[lilac stag]

We’ve had 4 seasons no one else volunteers so it’s been the same core of 3 +1 tie breaker and it’s been relatively stress free

[cloud rover]

On Lura heroic yesterday. I Said gate to the Right, 10 People gated instantly before Archangel went through, and i was the one who called it wrong

i was the bad guy

[lilac stag]

2 of us are strong personalities so people generally don’t bitch lol

and RL has our back

[vocal rock]

Is there a place to quickly find rogue m+ tricks/tips for the current season, like for example using vanish to drop fire ability from last boss skyreach?

[short aurora]

look pins in #wow-general

[left ledge]

My rogue in champ rings

Meanwhile my monk

[final wasp]

[left ledge]

[tepid raven]

[weary tree]

welcome to my world too

[vocal rock]

That google doc is nice, but not exactly comprehensive - seems like vanish isn’t included in there 🤷‍♂️

[neon wave]

same here

[swift tinsel]

gotta save vanish for this week's affix

[pearl swan]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[lean sigil]

anybody knows if we can use the pvp thing to make it scale in pvp and then add sockets for pve?

[lilac stag]

Delayed response. You missed the fun. Ronkley actually beat the

[final wasp]

I was on the tram 😠

[lilac stag]

I still love ya

[void ocean]

so many shadows chattin, this cant be good

[lilac stag]

Atrophic very useful when 5 healing. It’s not a dps check so bring a rogue.

[lilac stag]

I made a new friend. New friend no longer with us.

CoD lobby for a minute

[lilac stag]

You can add sockets to pve gear from vault. You can’t add pvp sockets to pve gear that’s been modified.

[torpid heath]

Server still down?

[zealous basin]

!stats

[wicked jolt]

The following is a general recommendation, but you will always get more accurate results through simming your gear through Top Gear.
Single Target / Mythic+: Mastery >= `Haste(~18%, roughly 650-700)` > `Critical Strike` > Versatility

[obsidian crag]

Is there any way to track the first dance with blizzard default ui?

[fiery fog]

nop

all you can do is look at all your buffs and search for it

[obsidian crag]

That's what I've been doing. Kinda sucks

[wise fulcrum]

Have you gone into the CD/Buff tracker and looked at the options for additional icons/bars you could add?

[supple barn]

hello fellow rogue degenerates

[wise fulcrum]

I was told survival is the true rogue spec now

[supple barn]

Yeah I been told to try Hunter but CBA

[lean sigil]

does first dance sim bad? Dslice

[frigid prawn]

Is there no delay of the 2nd dance anymore with guidon? Just send back to back?😄

[fiery fog]

you send the 2nd dance to cover the last 8 seconds of blades

with bl i think youll have sectec ready as your first dance runs out

[lilac stag]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/first-dance-tracker

@vale pine maybe add to !ui

[fiery fog]

i like how all these addons are just weakauras with extra steps

[hazy lichen]

for me it like double tracks

[rugged condor]

the sim still says to use 2nd dance to cover 2nd Sectech with supercharger

ive been using the 8s dance but which one is right?

[hazy lichen]

sd storm is good?

[lilac stag]

It’s supposed to. One to get it and one once you have it.

[warm marlin]

the sim does a hyperprecise version partially reliant on it not suffering from the deepening shadows bug that is a margin of error gain over doing the simple last 8s dance rule

[rugged condor]

thank fuck

8s rule

so easy

[swift tinsel]

if you find yourself at low/no cp going into 2nd dance its fine to dance+storm

[supple barn]

Fuu the goat /s

[manic salmon]

hello

[supple barn]

hi

[manic salmon]

hi

[sacred yarrow]

hello

[manic salmon]

hiii

im going to be subtle today

like a rogue

[undone ridge]

guys whats the rule i send first dance and then wait with my second dance until its recharged?

until my first dance is re-charged**

[idle mango]

no, USE on CD. But better read this: https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/subtlety/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[buoyant leaf]

Do you always hold SD while waiting on ST cd? Or can you send it get your two AA procs for your supercharged combo points and cast it somewhere in the window

[swift tinsel]

outside of Blades you use dance with sectech technique

[cursive tundra]

eyy my addon is getting traction thanks

also

from the 4 mythic dungeons cache

[swift tinsel]

noice

[cursive tundra]

[swift tinsel]

hefty haste injection

[cursive tundra]

i only have 683 still

need a bit more

[swift tinsel]

with oils?

[cursive tundra]

yeah

[swift tinsel]

ah

I mean that's still a good number

[cursive tundra]

too much mastery

[swift tinsel]

do you have the 16 haste/8 mastery or crit gems?

in your other slots

[alpine wraith]

i got the laura neck and i like it better than alleria one

dont think im getting alleria in M anyway

[swift tinsel]

what are the stats on lura neck?

[shrewd lantern]

low haste high mastery

[alpine wraith]

extra socket and 1/6 spread haste mast

[shrewd lantern]

like higher mastery than the pvp one

[lilac stag]

I’d like masque integration and a bar option for the 6 seconds.

[cursive tundra]

i have mastery/haste, but I will probably swap to haste/mastery yeah

and that should get me to 700

[cursive tundra]

uhh what is masque?

also I'm terrible at making UI stuff on addons

i'm just a programmer

[lilac stag]

Masque lets you adjust icon borders and such on default ui

ie I can make the TFD icon square, zoomed 30% with a 1px black border

[alpine wraith]

next week i can craft haste on wrists with engi

and get back to 700 haste again too

rn im on 655 or so

[lilac stag]

Which wrists are you doing? I forget if the engineering ones can’t be socketed.

[undone ridge]

thanks mank im giving it a read

so far sub is good and alot of fun

but im really here to minmax my dmg

[shrewd lantern]

you can socket them

just no embellish

[chilly kite]

as much as blizz hates melee, is it just me or is our job in mythic for the most part just tunnel boss, don't stand in shit.

[undone ridge]

how do i generate super points?

when combo points are full and i press shadowstrike?

[vale pine]

shadow dance

it gives you 2 supercharger points

each will be consumed with the use of a finisher

[quartz prism]

Anyone knows what spell/buff to track to see if I will refill my CP again after using a finisher? Sometimes my CPs will be maxed again after using a finisher

[vale pine]

ancient arts

[quartz prism]

Ah, i was reading tooltips to find it but I read that one as working like how coup de grace works

Thanks

[vale pine]

have fun

[tulip light]

what can we do regarding deepening shadows bug? just reload after every pull in raids?

[warm marlin]

is this actually commonly happening

i have yet to experience it

[upbeat cradle]

Ah yes

The infamous relaxing 18

[undone ridge]

ty fuu

for the answer

[chilly kite]

is there a tracker for shadow blades anywhere? i thought sensei had one but idk if i'm just dumb, I just want a big ass number saying how many seconds remaining on the buff

[dusky yacht]

I’m getting sleepy just thinking about it

I love how they also just need a healer too

[unkempt oak]

Even the base game cooldown manager can do this. Just add it as a tracked buff.

[dusky yacht]

I have it as a bar myself with dance above it

[chilly kite]

so its me being a derp de derp then

[dusky yacht]

We’re all derp here

[fathom adder]

do you just st tunnel salhadar on mythic? just reading it up right now. Any tips that i might not get from the guide?

[graceful rock]

Pretty much

[dusky yacht]

I’d talk to your RL about that, if the orbs aren’t dying anywhere near him, it shouldn’t be an issue.

[sterile vessel]

U pad orbs for parse

[graceful rock]

Swap to adds if you need too

[fathom adder]

ok thanks guys

i just guess other dds will dmg the orbs into oblivion, need to see it in reality

[hollow spear]

you obviously save sectec for small adds cuh

[fiery fog]

if youre ethical you tunnel on boss and big orb that spawns beside him

if you want a good log pad small orbs like a madman

[dusky yacht]

You save blades, pot, sectec, dance and scream for lust on vc when the adds spawn and then get super toxic to anyone still on the boss ofc

[fathom adder]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-god-ella-payne-house-of-payne-s10-e1-thank-you-jesus-gif-5498760848754775845

ok thats a lot more orbs

i guess the st cleave spec is a given at least

[vestal gorge]

280agi is good no ?

[brisk onyx]

does anyone have pov of mythic Alleria?

plz

[elfin hound]

Bench pov

[graceful rock]

Just sit boss

Ranged fight tier

[brisk onyx]

idk i was suddenly called in xd

[fiery fog]

send blades on cd

hit stuff

dont get hit

[brisk onyx]

nice

[sweet creek]

hey peeps, any idea how i can sim arcanoweave lining embellishment? some of these embellishments looks like huge dps gains but i cant seem to sim arcanoweave lining

[graceful rock]

Looks like one of the public sub logs has a video link to it

Could try that

[brisk onyx]

ty good news

[brisk onyx]

[graceful rock]

[hazy breach]

You can

You just cant put it on a dagger, has to be on an armor piece. Use the + next to the crafted items in topgear

[dusky yacht]

[alpine wraith]

dont worry guy mythic lura neck is better for when you are in alleria

[hazy breach]

Does killing beloren unlock alleria loot in vault?

[alpine wraith]

i wonder

tbh if we only kill belo and chima guy

with a rogue big loot situation

2 banger trinks and wep

[keen dome]

I gotta fight the weird dog

[alpine wraith]

it is not difficult but finding people that want to stay long enough to pug it

might be a challenge

[vale pine]

it shouldn't but we can't say for sure before someone tests it

[lilac moss]

Didnt people get MQD loot before it opened from their vault?

[lilac stag]

It should since it’s the actual AOTC part of the raid no?

[solar spruce]

did sub get overtaken by assassin? I saw archon now has sin above

[alpine wraith]

nice to know

[solar spruce]

i still like my shadowtrike AMSR

sin annimations look boring

[lilac stag]

fucking copium that buff did anything in raid

[alpine wraith]

dont worry surely you can link boss dmg

[lilac stag]

and look at all the other specs right there doing boss dmg + add dmg

play your fav spec in raid. It doesn’t matter

[alpine wraith]

yea you can play assasination or outlaw even on any boss

no one will notice you do 10k less cleave or burst aoe

or st

when devastation aug and hunter gap you by 100k

[solar spruce]

my wife will

[alpine wraith]

tell her a guy named hachadino vouchs you are a sub blaster

[solar spruce]

LOL

[alpine wraith]

surely she will understand

[lilac stag]

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-gonna-give-you-any-context-keemstar-i-wont-give-you-a-back-story-no-context-required-i-wont-let-you-know-the-details-gif-21882754

[pseudo verge]

!macro

[wicked jolt]

Subtlety Macros:
Here is a macro to make it easier to fit all of your globals into your Shadow Dances:

/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Secret Technique

Deathstalker likes to use this macro instead:

/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Shuriken Storm

This can be combines with trinkes and other cooldown use.

/cast Shadow Blades
/use 13
/use 14
/use Tempered Potion
/cast Ancestral Call

Trickster Rogues can combine Coup de Grace and Black Powder in one button:

/cast Coup de Grace
/cast Black Powder

You can find more macros and details in Guides like WoWhead or Icy Veins.

[obsidian crag]

i feel replaced by arms warriors all the time nowadays

[compact spindle]

does sub rogue explicitly need to use daggers? a hero fist weapon dropped in raid the other night and i was rocking a veteran weapon so surely the fist weapon is an upgrade ?

[keen dome]

!oh

[wicked jolt]

Shadow Techniques is not normalized and this makes a slow weapon (axe/sword/mace/fist) in offhand significantly weaker and almost never worth equiping.

[keen dome]

Afraid so

[lilac stag]

@vale pine please update macros for MN potions

[compact spindle]

oh wow

alright good to know thank you

[vale pine]

oh ye

[dense geode]

i hate this boss

[alpine wraith]

pls put the recklessnes pot

to troll people

1 week

[keen dome]

[vale pine]

/use Light's Potential

i guess

unless i made a typo

[lilac stag]

Add fleeting to it?

[obsidian crag]

i love recklesness pots

[lilac stag]

so it does both

[obsidian crag]

rank 1 goes for 30 g

[keen dome]

Neat, 12.0.5 is 21st april

[alpine wraith]

they are my choice for m+

gotta spice it up

[ionic python]

For mythic+ exclusively, its better to go a bit more deep into mastery even if u dont reach 700 haste? Or not really, cause i keep seeing top players having kinda more mastery

[upbeat cradle]

Yes

[alpine wraith]

yes there is a shool of though

of 200 haste then full mastery crit

but you need good pulls to unlock its full potential

you may see high pushers with that gearset

more overall but less st

[oak socket]

Does the sting from the crown necklace apply upon using black powder? Or is it only ST?

[swift tinsel]

iirc its only on one target at a time

otherwise it would gain value in aoe vs losing it

[lucid jackal]

It's a hasted ppm proc, so it'll proc on any target hit by shadow damage

Hitting more targets doesn't make it proc more often

[shrewd lantern]

it doesnt splash like the ring set though

[alpine wraith]

it is st

yes

[shrewd lantern]

its just free damage

and lets you not gear haste in other slots

tbh

[swift tinsel]

yep

big haste value

[lucid jackal]

I get the haste this is annoying but I think it's gonna be fun late season to try and perfectly itemize for it

[alpine wraith]

get this neck and engi wrists better combo

maybe a bit harder to get on M but yea

[shrewd lantern]

[lucid jackal]

With double socket ring/neck and then going for helmet off piece that has all haste

Seems like a fun puzzle to solve

[alpine wraith]

we will likely try to coin the rings from xenas

[swift tinsel]

expensive puzzle til r2 gems come down a bit

[alpine wraith]

that combo is decent

[swift tinsel]

to be shifting regularly

[shrewd lantern]

i mean you want pants offpiece for sub no?

[alpine wraith]

depends you can move things around

like guy says

[shrewd lantern]

dont remind me im on my 5th xenas run for the week

for the crit haste

[alpine wraith]

dont worry after you get the items you cant get it again

[warm marlin]

helmet ick

[alpine wraith]

so at most it is like 4 weeks

[lucid jackal]

Yes but there are 2 pieces of loot with double sockets

[swift tinsel]

as long as there's a good pool of loot to make shifting stats around more feasible

[lucid jackal]

So u probs want those

[shrewd lantern]

I have the champ one

[warm marlin]

It is very very easy to swap your stats heavily though even without double socket

[shrewd lantern]

from m0 week

[warm marlin]

Flipping gems and flasks

[alpine wraith]

guy just means

double socket is more total stats

[shrewd lantern]

yeah

[swift tinsel]

yeah flask can do some pretty heavy lifting with bridging the gap

[alpine wraith]

so fitting that in

has to be a win

you just shift other things around

[shrewd lantern]

the full haste ring i think would probably be better

if xenas rings

didnt exist

[swift tinsel]

as long as you aren't stuck with a lot of vers and lower crit/mastery bc of your drops

[alpine wraith]

im so happy with 1k mastery

[swift tinsel]

idk I don't think xenas rings are that goated

[alpine wraith]

they just have extra juice

[swift tinsel]

they're just farmable

[warm marlin]

Alleria neck and double socket ring is probably hard to play together

[shrewd lantern]

yeah

[alpine wraith]

their stats are nothing crazy

[warm marlin]

Too much haste

[swift tinsel]

for a lil extra damage

[lucid jackal]

Idk if it's actually better but I feel in full bis double sockets just win

[alpine wraith]

you would play laura neck

vs alleria

[swift tinsel]

double sockets is a ton of flexibility

[alpine wraith]

that dmg proc is wang

[swift tinsel]

32 of any stat in 2 slots

[alpine wraith]

vs extra stats

[shrewd lantern]

if you went for lura ring you’d want the neck too

[lucid jackal]

Isn't double socket neck better

Our nah

[shrewd lantern]

gl getting both on mythic

[warm marlin]

Idk it’s kinda unclear

[alpine wraith]

it is likely but need to move things around

[warm marlin]

In pure st I think alleria is still better

Any aoe certainly double socket tho

[alpine wraith]

also it does help you put more mastery elsewhere

[shrewd lantern]

its just easier to get too

[swift tinsel]

well it's a math question at a certain point

[shrewd lantern]

also im just waiting on guild to kill paladins

to be stuck in cosmos jail

[alpine wraith]

well most fights are cleave/aoe

[swift tinsel]

is an extra socket more than 0.6%ish gain

[alpine wraith]

so not much of a question

[shrewd lantern]

[warm marlin]

I’m having more fun on cosmos than I did on paladins

[alpine wraith]

problem is when you get M laura neck

tier is over

[swift tinsel]

or whatever sting proc is at myth

[shrewd lantern]

Every melee pov on this fight looks like aids

[alpine wraith]

so only a m+ pusher thing

they are also going the 200 haste snapper

build

[shrewd lantern]

We not even killing lura on hc

a second time

said not worth

[alpine wraith]

what

the loot is crazy good

rl is drunk as f

[shrewd lantern]

we killed bel since he kind of free

on hc

[warm marlin]

We did not kill H Lura once

Not worth the time

[shrewd lantern]

maybe i break 6 digit sim next week

[warm marlin]

I think people did not properly strategize doing the obelisks or something

It really isn’t that atrocious unless you’re like the single only melee

[shrewd lantern]

Idk i just got linked the one guide that exists for it

i think we have 4-5 melee

[hallow mortar]

damn my alt just like that, weekly quest for 4 keys

[shrewd lantern]

i got the imperator cloak

[warm marlin]

I am just pressing my little dances on cd with tec and I don’t really lose uptime ever

All of p2

we haven’t been deep in p3 much yet

[shrewd lantern]

though i guess i cant complain since m gaze vault

Idk whats going on with xenas runs this week

pug healers having me proc cheat

through defensives

[keen dome]

At weekly levels or?

[shrewd lantern]

10-12 yeah

somehow i get into runs with piss geared rdruids

mostly

[keen dome]

It's always the rdruids

[shrewd lantern]

prob want chest

[red flame]

Nah fr tho 😭

[keen dome]

they never want to push a damage button either

[tough pumice]

Could someone help me with log review here's the log any help would be appreciated https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gzW47XmhDrkQcA2q?fight=13&type=damage-done&source=11

[red flame]

RDruids & Disc Priests are by far my least fav healers to be grouped w in keys

[shrewd lantern]

Yeah idk i just dislike rdruid

in all content

@warm marlin ok how bad is pallies

i might be getting pulled in

[hollow spear]

I hope we make it there when I go on vacation

[shrewd lantern]

just argue theres melee with better cleave

Im gonna disable details to preserve my sanity

[amber sedge]

i love the weekly quest :D

[alpine wraith]

oh that is laura neck

[hazy breach]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1333777530758496316/1491850104586506360/image.png?ex=69d9312e&is=69d7dfae&hm=f04ca9f9c91eefbdbee68f1f7eb7875484c17a384ea91f28791987817487762f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=296&height=71

[amber sedge]

gz!

[keen dome]

Damn, nice

[oak socket]

some ppl are blizz's faves lol

[keen dome]

All I got was a terrible ring

[warm marlin]

Do 0 damage and get bent over because melee eats a massive heal absorb and melee exclusive fun damage

[shrewd lantern]

all i hear in comms

”pray the healer reaches melee group in time”

[amber sedge]

4 people from my guild got Gaze. ill never see this trinket

[warm marlin]

Yeah you can do some actual strategizing with giving the melee a break but I am pretty sure I just sat it the whole fight

[shrewd lantern]

does the fight itself change much

besides you need to do group soaks

and i imagine hammers onehit

[warm marlin]

I don’t remember heroic anymore but those are both true

[warm marlin]

I have a screenshot of being 5% hp with a 1.5M heal absorb just vibing

[shrewd lantern]

all i remember about heroic is hunters saying they arent in right build

[warm marlin]

Good times

[shrewd lantern]

while doing 500k opener

[open moss]

Guys , iam Struggling.. I got in my vault : Hero Guidon or Mythic Feather...

[red flame]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[shrewd lantern]

Just cloak

[warm marlin]

Doesn’t remove it

[shrewd lantern]

LMAO

[lilac stag]

Just turtle it

[warm marlin]

It also doesn’t work on the soaks before you try that

They pierce immunes

[red flame]

Just alt+f4 it

[vale osprey]

Guys I'm in on dragons tonight

Am I holding sectecd

For the orbs

[shrewd lantern]

Wait we’re good on dragons

what the helly

(we good at orb pad)

[lilac stag]

PPBP goes hard 🍆

[keen dome]

Instead of Pondering the Orb, we're Padding the Orb

[shrewd lantern]

I just say bp is better at 2t

and the orbs just get caught in it

[vale osprey]

I 👏 love 👏 black 👏 powder

[shrewd lantern]

[vale osprey]

I get we spam BP on ot

But should I be syncing SecTec with it

[shrewd lantern]

Technically the only non degen shit

was i sent 2nd pot with cds on inter add

instead of orb set spawn

oopsies

[lilac stag]

White powder can be trouble

[red flame]

Fr tho

https://tenor.com/view/break-down-the-door-kevin-atwater-laroyce-hawkins-chicago-pd-break-through-the-door-gif-4881327480715473049

[vale osprey]

[lilac stag]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-and-wolverine-blindal-blind-al-wadewilson-deadpool-gif-12885543742739945061

[crystal bone]

i was told the orb spawns line up well with sectec cd in mythic

only in heroic is it annoying

[shrewd lantern]

For the most part they do

[vale osprey]

Yeah from what I'm seeing they do

[lilac stag]

You can see them on lorrgs

[shrewd lantern]

ideally you dont get big purple circle

which forces you to run out

during pad time

[lilac stag]

Just cloak it.

[vale osprey]

I'm mobile gaming until 5 mins before my raid hehexd dad gaming

[shrewd lantern]

doesnt it splash still

[lilac stag]

Good news is it takes 30 seconds

[shrewd lantern]

i mean i mostly cloak fear breaths

or when 2+ people try to venn diagram me

[timid trellis]

what stats should i go for in m+ , i sim better with more masteryy , but is there a guidline , im doing 16<+ keys

[lilac stag]

700 haste, mastery and crit

[shrewd lantern]

@warm marlin oh if i am im gonna be in the far group

:)))

[timid trellis]

even if it sims worse ? if i check murloc ppl play with like 300 haste ?

i just wanna know what the numbers are based off

[lilac stag]

They’re sadistic

numbers are based on getting 2 sectechs proper in sblades using guidon. The low haste people are likely running puzzle

[timid trellis]

i run puzzle too

[lilac stag]

the haste gives you more st dmg as well

[open moss]

Any sugg on the trinken question?

[lilac stag]

RIP

[timid trellis]

HAHA why ?

ye its shit and wonky butt

[lilac stag]

Personally guidon

[lilac stag]

It’s a 3 min trinket on sub and that enough to say fuck off with it.

[vale pine]

https://x.com/Warcraft/status/2042287121910607997?s=20

World of Warcraft (@Warcraft)

Content Update 12.0.5 rolls out Apr 21 ✨

Heed the call and take on Ritual Sites, Void Assaults, Decor Duels, Abyss Anglers, and more!

https://t.co/ZNb9hjBrjl

X · Apr 9, 2026, 5:02 PM

[lilac stag]

Play assa if you want to run puzzle

[vale pine]

sooner than i thought

[swift tinsel]

so I wonder if they're gonna make 2h weps cost 2 ascendant voidcores like with crafting

to upgrade to Better Hero/Myth track

[timid trellis]

what trinket are you playing ?

i have solarflare prism to

[hazy breach]

Puzzle is fine as sub, but guidon is typically better

[limber folio]

time to prog alleria

[swift tinsel]

tank is currently having a meltdown over having to use 2x cores to upgrade his 1h and shield

[timid trellis]

never seeen it drop -.-

[hazy breach]

Dont you get enough of them for that

Surely its not limited to 3 or 2 total?

[swift tinsel]

I think he's more malding about needing to use twice as many if every slot just costs 1

[open moss]

@vale pine Sensei .. mythic feather or Heroic Guidon 🙈

[lilac stag]

https://tenor.com/view/frankly-thats-a-skill-issue-hazzikostas-ion-ion-hazzikostas-skill-issue-gif-21595688

[swift tinsel]

since 2h users would just use one core for their whole wep setup

idk he complains about everything

[keen dome]

2H tank rogue

[lilac stag]

We use 1/2 core for dagger

[vale pine]

probably guidon, but idk

[warm marlin]

Yea same

[swift tinsel]

yeah I'm not worried at all since OH means next to nothing

[open moss]

If you dont know, who should xD

[warm marlin]

I’d just step out last second

[hazy breach]

If its the 2 min feather that shit is useless

Hc guidon better

[lilac stag]

the spec revolves around guidon, if you’re going to get one natty or not is not up to us

[open moss]

Yes but mythic xD

[hazy breach]

Yes

[lilac stag]

mythic trash

[hazy breach]

That doesnt change what i said

[lilac stag]

Is what the dungeon trinkets are

[shrewd lantern]

do i need the dispel wa hook

i assume no if we cant dispel shit

[warm marlin]

ye no need

[lilac stag]

You’ve now had me, a green and an orange say guidon.

[warm marlin]

cloak is better used on other mechanics anyway

[shrewd lantern]

What does cloak even do there

[quaint lodge]

Recently ive been seeing people say 700 haste and not just 650-700 hatse, did something change or just people writing it that way

[warm marlin]

1min 3:03 and 5:40ish is a late searing radiance into sacred toll overlap

[shrewd lantern]

oh the big aoe booms

[warm marlin]

Iirc searing radiance might also be st can’t remember

That’s when you’re scared

[shrewd lantern]

can you feint tolls

[swift tinsel]

its just the most realistically good number for most people playing the spec

[warm marlin]

Ye

[quaint lodge]

Ok I figured, just checking

[warm marlin]

Everything feintable except radiance I believe and trample

and hammers/shields obv

You can live a shield if topped hammer no

[shrewd lantern]

arent they both flying objects

[swift tinsel]

I would imagine its like a horizontal aoe abilitiy

[shrewd lantern]

the shield pacifies

if memory serves

[swift tinsel]

instead of a vertical one

[warm marlin]

just a silence bruv

It’s no big deal

[keen dome]

can't silence our daggers

[fathom adder]

so you can get an myth track weapon with those 12.0.5. voidcores or do i understand it wrong?

[swift tinsel]

doesn't that mean no applying poison to weapons

[shrewd lantern]

lol i remember when you had rogues using the caster trinket from uunat in pvp

so they changed the penalty to a pacify

instead of a silence

[swift tinsel]

looks like you can upgrade a maxed out myth wep to 298 ilvl

or get myth track loot from 3x m+ dungeons

something like that

[shrewd lantern]

does paladins unlock 282 drops in vault

or is that cosmos

[warm marlin]

Cosmos

[hushed roost]

How big of a gap would this have to be for you guys to consider playing outlaw KEKW

[shrewd lantern]

oh so dragons was last cutoff

[swift tinsel]

30%+

[shrewd lantern]

1 day holy

[lilac stag]

@tribal blade NELF still BIS

[keen dome]

Nelf are cool

[hushed roost]

does 1 week do the full reset

or nah

i cant do 2 day kek

[shrewd lantern]

Idk if guy isnt playing outlaw

that isnt a good sign

imo

[keen dome]

damn, those poor cats at the bottom

[hushed roost]

remember when we saw the sims

[red flame]

Sub + Sin could be last & Outlaw could be 1st & I still wouldn’t touch that shi

[hushed roost]

LMFAO

how is your whole spec sim bait

[shrewd lantern]

wdym

[swift tinsel]

its almost like a big consolidated sim list isn't informative

[shrewd lantern]

outlaw is sim bait every tier

[swift tinsel]

of actual raid performance

[hushed roost]

was talkin ferla

[shrewd lantern]

pretty sure sub was the lowest sim spec

in mfo

[swift tinsel]

feral also had a huge warning about their sims

[shrewd lantern]

of rogue

[swift tinsel]

being inaccurate

but if you ignore that

sure

[lilac stag]

CoD lobby part 2?

[hushed roost]

yeah but thats like kind of an extreme

because last 2 were mega sub fights

[swift tinsel]

not when they straight up tell you their sims are jank

[strange chasm]

My man Guy is playing the bench with every other rogue

[shrewd lantern]

”why is a sim that is a training dummy inaccurate of raid bosses”

[hushed roost]

how do i persuade my guild to let me cast deathmark on the ret pally in council

[shrewd lantern]

i might get getting dragged into pallies

[hushed roost]

"atrophic" isnt working

[lilac stag]

Not true. Non tryhards are playing

[shrewd lantern]

real question how much ahead is assa even of sub on that boss

[keen dome]

I'm sitting on a bench in Silvermoon for different reasons tonight (nobody will invite me to ChimM groups)

[lilac stag]

And apparently atrophic on Paly with 5 heals is good

[hushed roost]

not much ahead, but they definitely aint letting me in on sub

[shrewd lantern]

like you still in the shitter regardless of spec

[warm marlin]

A good bit

[lilac stag]

Make your own

[keen dome]

I'm so tired, man 🙁

I want to be the bad pug who fucks up and ragequits

[shrewd lantern]

i should sign up for one to get declined

despite i have week 1 m chim

[keen dome]

Nah you'd probably get invited swiftly

[lilac stag]

that does not sound like a CE pug leader talking to me

[warm marlin]

I think alleria is the only fight where it really doesn’t make any sense to play rogue imo

[grave cradle]

!up

[wicked jolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1488547832062415010/drop_fixed.png

[keen dome]

Almost all the good pug groups are lookign for week 1 or multi-kills

Majority of groups are rekill groups which is totally logical

[lilac stag]

find an achievement faker addon

[keen dome]

lmao

"where are your logs"

[shrewd lantern]

i mean if you killed it already

[keen dome]

"private"

[limpid sage]

Ye and that’s because she’s racist against melee

[shrewd lantern]

you most likely only pugging if you’re out that week

on farm

[keen dome]

although I believe, firmly, that 99.9% of groups saying they check logs is NEVER checking logs

[fossil forge]

any tips for drakes in the chat

[keen dome]

Unless you are a puglord, yeah, I agree.

[shrewd lantern]

spam bp

[keen dome]

don't fear the raid

[warm marlin]

After playing it myself I don’t think it’s that bad, it’s just atro isn’t particularly useful, you want a lot of ranged for ranged specific mechanics, and dk grips are really strong

[shrewd lantern]

grip isnt a raid buff

btw

[keen dome]

when are we getting our scorpion raid buff

"get over here"

[lilac stag]

why does this shit take forever lol

please kill me

[shrewd lantern]

i havent done a campaign quest

since kill cosmos

[lilac stag]

apparently I can’t spawn the token turn in?

[swift tinsel]

I purely do world content for coffer key shards for my delve addiction

[shrewd lantern]

do you get anything

[swift tinsel]

other than that its guild keys and raid logging

[shrewd lantern]

from the campaign

[keen dome]

the midnight falls one gives a hearthstone

[swift tinsel]

ye which is cool

[shrewd lantern]

yeah i got that

[swift tinsel]

no crafting thing like usual though

should have given an omnitoken

[shrewd lantern]

i default to the dimmy hearthstone

[swift tinsel]

maybe next season

[keen dome]

same

dimmy hearthstone owns

[swift tinsel]

I need to finish delvers journey yet

[warm marlin]

this one is really good

Dimmy mount is goated too

[shrewd lantern]

real

somehow i got the mount before the hearthstone

[keen dome]

I would've gone so hard if you became the sparkly dragon

[chrome palm]

if we could just have a beloren mount that is pure light or pure void, i would love that

[swift tinsel]

I need it

[chrome palm]

not a fan of the light/void beloren

[swift tinsel]

Corewarden's Hearthstone

"yeah lemme summon a Black Hole to go home in"

nyoom

[warm marlin]

Ye I wanted to see what it looked like not just in model viewer but it did seem slightly mid

Should have an option to swap like the plume

[shrewd lantern]

does paladins even have good loot

the mastery ring right

[swift tinsel]

yeah

[chrome palm]

when you do beloren trash it looks great

both of them

[swift tinsel]

heavy mastery haste ring

other than that is some bunk shoulders

[keen dome]

this one

[shrewd lantern]

and i think tier head but

[keen dome]

which I got from my dungeon box

[shrewd lantern]

thats whatever when imperator drops one

[keen dome]

Someone can have it if they can figure out how I can mail it to them

[swift tinsel]

I joked about yoinking paladins ring on tuesday before raid and ended up rolling a 100 on it and getting it lol

[shrewd lantern]

at least you didnt get the cloak

[keen dome]

they would've given me transmog

it has value

[fossil forge]

i got bond of light on my main rogue but i got the ring from last on my alt

we eating good,

haste

[swift tinsel]

it replaced a champ platinum band so I can't complain

[fossil forge]

big W

[shrewd lantern]

me using hero omission

and champ occlusion

[swift tinsel]

between bond of light and bifuraction band my mastery is eating good

almost 1k unbuffed

while sitting pretty at 699 haste

[fossil forge]

if i speak big trouble

i got 730 haste ig

[keen dome]

smh, avoidance

just MOVE faster than the damage

[shrewd lantern]

i’ve looted like

[swift tinsel]

I honestly forget the non-dps enchants lmao

[shrewd lantern]

3 fluxweave cloaks from xenas

[swift tinsel]

since they moved slots

[shrewd lantern]

and 4 domaanar control consoles

[keen dome]

I don't like they moved slots

I have to reteach a dozen people every expansion

Blizzard why do you do this to me

[shrewd lantern]

i keep thinking there are bracer ones

and cloak

[keen dome]

same

but no

[cinder swan]

whats the haste sweet point? 684?

[keen dome]

helm and shoulders now (and boots)

[swift tinsel]

yep

for the avoidance/leech/speed enchants

[shrewd lantern]

i cheaped out on those

[swift tinsel]

boots I just do whatever stam one

[shrewd lantern]

until hero

no dps gain

[swift tinsel]

I don't have them on atm lmao

they're both hero now so I'll slap something on before raid tonight

[shrewd lantern]

at least for wep

it might last all expac

until rendorei is outscaled

by secondary enchant

[fossil forge]

rate the fit with the glock

i got ts on

[lilac stag]

looks like your wife / gf should be dressing you

[fossil forge]

red riding hood twinm

[small mantle]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

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[weary tree]

lol im literally waiting for them to kill it today

[still vector]

is there anyone able to look at a log for me?

[ornate lake]

Giga gaymers does anyone know a way to combine the physical and shadow parts of finishers and BS/SS into a single spell?

[still vector]

put it on the same action bar slot

thats what i do. Q is BS outside of dance and inside dance Q is SS.

so stealth where your BS is and replace with SS. @ornate lake

[round jolt]

Guys I am doing a big mistake on my gameplay

and idk how to fix it

I am new and how can I share my dungeon log with you so you can tell me my mistake 😅

[still vector]

@hazy breach just wondering if you're free todo a log review https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vCjQPHD1xaYMN3n2?fight=last&type=damage-done

[real belfry]

Possibly a dumb question, but I see talent builds using Wound poison in high keys. Why is that?

I honestly cant recall many mobs having a heal?

[weary tree]

just 2 sec of looking. Why aren't you attacking at pull and why do you puzzle during blades?

[still vector]

attacking what? crown?

DM me if you can

[crystal comet]

if you're asking for a macro that you can put on both bars, this is what I use:

#showtooltip [bonusbar:1] Shadowstrike; Backstab
/cast [bonusbar:1] Shadowstrike; Backstab

[lilac stag]

@swift tinsel added blades bar color change now. think i'm finally content with all of it

[swift tinsel]

for guidon?

or just changed the bar color itself for blades

[ornate lake]

No I mean in details, you can see it splits the physical and shadow portion into seperate spells. I want to combine them.

[lilac stag]

yeah. green is guidon and blades goes from purple to blue at 8 sec left

[swift tinsel]

oh nice

[ornate lake]

I mean combine the damage in details breakdown

[lilac stag]

on cast

[swift tinsel]

I thought about doing something like that as well but just haven't sat down with it. My guidon bar currently changes to purple after 1sec has passed in case I miss it watching the number

[civic lava]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

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[swift tinsel]

I still track blades with just the icon but might add a glow or something at 8sec

[finite hedge]

Use !log to post it so it doesn't get cluttered here, but just a quick glance your dance windows are completely off. Reread the guide.

You puzzle boxed mid dance

[crystal comet]

is there a place I can download and try this out? I've been using a basic Sensei's bar, but this looks really nice

[swift tinsel]

I've been fighting between arc ui and wangbar bc there is a literal 1 pixel difference no matter how I resize things

between my cd row and energy/cp

so I might just make cp/energy in arc

[brazen stone]

are people startin to swap to sin now for high keys

[torn tide]

if tank gets destroyed in first pull of academy is that their fault or the healer's?

[swift tinsel]

depends on what they died to

[quaint lodge]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

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[quaint lodge]

They both have the ability to wipe that pull

So do DPS

[torn tide]

its kinda weird, it was fine for a solid 10 seconds and then the tank just dropped dead

[torn tide]

yea if they take too long right?

[swift tinsel]

if they take too long, if the tank runs out of defensives and dragonflies fold them,

[quaint lodge]

^

[swift tinsel]

if the healer has/doesn't have an external to give

[quaint lodge]

Yeah like any tank is going to run out of steam in that pull eventually