subtlety

[left ledge]

again maybe i was seeing some shit, just wanna make sure

[fallow nimbus]

That's our tierset, giving extra dmg to blades

[left ledge]

im on live

[hollow spear]

I see 20%

[left ledge]

yea yea i do too right now, thats why i said maybe im being schizo

[hollow spear]

Probably

[left ledge]

or wait, is blades 5% in pvp?

ok nvm it was a pvp thing

[hazy breach]

Ye pvp thing

[left ledge]

thought i was crazy for a sec lmao

[zenith egret]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[arctic heart]

wow is disconnect like crazy rn ? i cant go online for 5 minutes 😐

[bronze turret]

Prepping for mid launch perhaps

[ebon trench]

Bro why all our specs suck for m+

[final hound]

why?

[sullen hare]

why do you need to track shadowstrike it doesn't have a cooldown or anything

[dire ravine]

could someone drop the bp/coup macro por favor

[minor sonnet]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/subtlety/addons-macro-ui-imports

[vale pine]

#showtooltip 
/cast Coup de Grace
/cast Black Powder```

[sullen hare]

it's exactly as simple as you think it is

[vale pine]

can copy/paste it if you hover over the box

[dire ravine]

It only shows the tooltip for CDG, when its procc'd. is there a way for that to be interchangeable?

[lilac stag]

Would ask you the same thing.

people want to track the darndest things on the 2 button spec

[final hound]

i'm new to Sub, i wanna see it.
Sinister for outlaw has no cd either. but we have it on cdm

[vale pine]

#showtooltip Coup de Grace
if you want it to always show coup

[warm marlin]

that’s because it becomes ambush

While strike is a different spell 🤓

[arctic heart]

but idk the name of buff, its like a "golden ore" from trickster, i used to track it till yesterday today i cannot track anymore

[swift tinsel]

flawless form

[arctic heart]

sorry for poor description dont really play sub

[swift tinsel]

this one?

[arctic heart]

YES

[swift tinsel]

yeah that's flawless form

[dire ravine]

i'd actually prefer it to show BP, over CdG

[swift tinsel]

its under buffs

in cdm

[arctic heart]

thank you

[dire ravine]

would changing it to a cast sequence macro work?

[vale pine]

you can put #showtooltip Black Poweder if you want to see black powder always

[dire ravine]

doth not change 🙁

[swift tinsel]

a castsequence macro with coup and bp would just not-work to the point of making it pointless

[chrome palm]

is that macro in a guide lol

[jaunty heath]

what does it do 😄

[lilac stag]

You could always just not use the macro

[chrome palm]

how hard is it to press 2 buttons

[vale pine]

one button for coup and bp

no need to press evis on a proc

[jaunty heath]

i like pressing evis

let me press one of my 3 buttons

[lilac stag]

We’ve gone from anti-macro spec with niche dance macros to a single AOE finisher macro.

[vale pine]

its just for convinience

you don't need to

[vale pine]

moment, ill login

[lilac stag]

If it’s in a guide, Delete it. Please

[dire ravine]

Ive been doing it without the macro fine, but I wanted to play around with it to see if its better optimization.

[dire ravine]

its not /hard at all. but isnt that the point? Optimization?

[chrome palm]

its less optimal

[lilac stag]

Turn on One Button at that point

[chrome palm]

its just so you dont need to worry about hitting a different button, for convenience

[vale pine]

you need to press save for it to update, bot works fine

/cast Coup de Grace
/cast Black Powder```

[dense coyote]

What is that aoe finisher macro ?

[keen dome]

look up one post

[vale pine]

^

[dense coyote]

Ah got yuh

[vale pine]

i just posted it

[dense coyote]

I asked at the right time haha

[vale pine]

it palys coup automatically

[lilac stag]

Kill me

Please

[jaunty heath]

did they change coupe trigger? does it stack with storm now?

[swift tinsel]

it can

[vale pine]

wdym

[swift tinsel]

midnight hero talent

[jaunty heath]

ah

i did not check anything so far

i was just wondering how we stack to coup in aope

[swift tinsel]

was bugged but now only hits your target, was random targeting for a while which was fun

[jaunty heath]

aoe*

[lilac stag]

blizzard: let’s make sub more accessible
Hunters, DKs & Rets: LFG!!!!!!!

[jaunty heath]

the macro actually make sense, but i have already 3 dance macros so i will pass 😄

[astral axle]

[lilac stag]

I miss the days of the one true macro

[dense coyote]

So …. I know the class is easy now and it’s literally just …. Stealth, shadow strike , evis for slice and dice , cooldown macro , secteq, and then literally just … the rotation after that my question is ….how many times do we use shadow dance after that before we have to start holding it for the next shadow blades ? And also …how good are we in raid ? Are our damage profiles in favor of the raid ? Is our single target good ? Like where do we lie in raid and mythic plus … I’m curious

[lilac stag]

We’re as good as you want us to be.

Math out your dance time. Not crazy hard. Somwhere between 8-15 seconds typically.

[remote knot]

what is wrong with Gloomblade that it is never taken?

[vale pine]

short or long answer?

[dense coyote]

So … we can use all our shadow dances after our initial cd macro then after that we can use one more when it comes back and then we hold ?

[lilac stag]

We don’t need energy

[barren pilot]

Isnt the answer to this always just tuning?

[vale pine]

short: its abd

long: Your damage is in cooldowns, backstabing is outside of cooldowns, so increasing your damage while you are not in cooldowns is in general not that strong

[dense coyote]

is our single target snd 2/3 target cleave decent ?

[barren pilot]

I always feel like why dont we take a talent the answer is always just "it does less damage" lol.

And once in a blue moon is its bugged.

[scarlet heath]

naturally

[lilac stag]

@vale pine did you look at what my level spec emote answer was?

[vale pine]

i see what you did there

[lilac stag]

I need it for a spec role.

[dense mountain]

is there any more CDR tied to spending combo points?

ty, what about pooling shadow tech stacks before blades, thats gone too i assume?

[lilac stag]

#subtlety-faq

!guide

[wicked jolt]

Guides:

• WoWhead - by fuu
• Method - by Stealthi
• Icy Veins - by Eleem

[dense mountain]

lol ty

[lilac stag]

would suggest focusing on apex

[dense coyote]

Is there any sources for recent raid testing damage anywhere ?

[lilac stag]

no. It’s all irrelevant

much tuning has happened

[dense coyote]

Oh

[lilac stag]

rogue will be fine. Check back in a month for meta.

[fair stump]

How is sub faring so far regarding bugs?

[alpine wraith]

nope

[lilac stag]

Better than normal

[dense coyote]

Uhm so … I read the ability but I’m a little confused … how do we play with deathstalkers mark in single target ? I’m assuming that’s what we are using for single target per the guide right ?

[fair stump]

Any crippling bug, aside from maybe the 1.2 gcd on coup?

[alpine wraith]

we dont play around mark that much

[lilac stag]

Don’t play DS. Solves all the issues.

[lilac stag]

Crippling Poison is not bugged.
Coup 1.2 gcd is a feature.

[fair stump]

I meant crippling as in crippling numbers/gameplay

not poison

'-'

[dense coyote]

Oh I read the wrong guide …. Trickster is the best

Sweet

[lilac stag]

The spec works.

!bugs

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Bug tracker: Spreadsheet

[dense coyote]

Well I guess I’m going to play sub rogue and not unholy dk

Looks fun

[lilac stag]

giving up the ranged melee spec that ignores mechanics.
fascinating

[vagrant thorn]

what made you decide that?

[dense coyote]

Oh idk I just like rogue

[lilac stag]

Check back in with us in a month

Until then. Glhf!

[lucid jackal]

rogue good

[dense coyote]

lol yeah I’ll have fun bursting then backstabbing then bursting again

[lilac stag]

if you enjoy that pacing you’ll have fun

[somber cedar]

Guy told me it's an Outlaw meta

[dense coyote]

Sounds chill

[fair stump]

That was the pacing back in tww as well

[lilac stag]

people tend to either love rogue or hate it. Not a lot of inbetween.

[plush roost]

Rogue is gonna be cracked in 4 weeks when march is out and assa was buffed because it underperformed and the ST focused execute spec goes crazy on the 2 primarily st fights

[dense coyote]

Is cracked bad or good ? lol 🤣

[plush roost]

Is gud

[dense coyote]

Ohh ok

[granite river]

This guy knows

[plush roost]

Gotta get with the zoomer lingo bro

[dense coyote]

My millennial terminology brain does not understand

😅

[keen dome]

It's gonna be purple

[plush roost]

Ts is genuinely frying me fr fr no cap after i jestermax on the foids

[granite river]

Jestermaxxx**

[dense coyote]

😳

[plush roost]

Maxxxxxximum the Hormone

[lucid jackal]

Dude rogue is like

I feel rogue is so fucking solid

and everybody is just like, depressed because they are deadass bored

[plush roost]

I mean i get why assa rogues would think its awful, cause it is

[granite river]

Playing around apex talent at least tho

[plush roost]

But thats tuning related

[granite river]

Without forcing ancient arts I’d be omega bored even with sub

[keen dome]

I've been hype for Rogue most of the time.

[dense coyote]

Well sub is literally the in spec I’ve never taken my time to get good at so even if it gets nerfed and sucks I can hit switch outlaw or assa

[keen dome]

It's gonna be great.

[swift tinsel]

the most important thing I need to do before midnight launch

[dense coyote]

And now that it’s like … 4 buttons …I figured I may as well try it out

[plush roost]

Bro i was so depressed to be told i may have to go devour but ive been freed from them chains allegedly

[swift tinsel]

is figure out which soudbyte I want for my discord voice channel joining sound to be

[plush roost]

Its rogueing time

Make it the "Bang!" WA noise for old times sake

[dense coyote]

I have no desire to play devour

[keen dome]

Mr. Blobby sounds

[swift tinsel]

atm I have Laszlo from What We Do in the Shadows' "a succulent chinese meal?" quote

[plush roost]

What tis the crime!?!?!

[swift tinsel]

I also have a bunch from the GI Joe meme voiceovers

[keen dome]

Nice

[swift tinsel]

Porkchop Sandwiches, Are You Buzz Lightyear

[keen dome]

I think I'd just use Mr. Bean or Mr. Blobby sounds.

[hazy breach]

It doesnt specify that we need to be patient with non-newcomers though

[minor trout]

i dont rlly get the gain of using SS during SD at max CP. wouldnt it only be a gain if the next builder wouldnt procc it otherwise?

[dense coyote]

I need to reorganize my room for expansion launch

I need to re wall mount my tv to a better wall lol

[lilac stag]

dear lord, Whispyr dropped a 1hr assa guide.

[swift tinsel]

I've got my desk sorted, need to charge the puck lights

[hazy breach]

Because of premeditation you would waste CP if you enter it at any mid-number of cp. Which means you either enter dance at no cp, or at full cp (1/6 is fine as well)

[astral axle]

[swift tinsel]

for ambient leveling experience

[dense coyote]

Oh sweet ! I’m gonna go watch it

[hazy breach]

And out of those two options for trickster its more damage to choose the full cp options

[astral axle]

I'll be good i promise

[lilac stag]

you can watch it 4 times if you hurry

[lilac stag]

https://klipy.com/gifs/unlikely-dan-levy

[swift tinsel]

got my meal prep done as well

[plush roost]

Okay heres what we're gonna do, Garrote 1. Garrote 2. Garrote 3. Then were gonna rupture.

[swift tinsel]

need to pick up coke zero tho

[plush roost]

40 fucking K bro

[hazy breach]

40k

[dense coyote]

Haha that’s right 😅🤣

[keen dome]

What'd you make

[minor trout]

yeah but let's say we are at 10 stacks then if we finish -> build we still get apex

[hazy breach]

Well if you somehow afked enough to have 10 stacks outside of dance

[lilac stag]

if he doesn't refer to himself as Whispyrburh i'm unsubscribing

[hazy breach]

Then you would have the apex for your first spender

And you would get it for the second one too

[lilac stag]

@hazy breach how is Panda bis when it looks like it's shitting itself through its pants

[swift tinsel]

just the usual chicken and rice, threw some cajun seasoning on the chicken with some tomato to give it some extra flavor while it simmered

[keen dome]

Hell yeah

Sounds good

[hazy breach]

You must ponder this Sir:
That is precisely why it is BiS

[lilac stag]

no tail on male?

what is this

[swift tinsel]

I'm weird and cut my chicken quite small to get rid of some of the eating fatigue since I'm having 215g every serving lol

so less surface area for good sear

[keen dome]

I should've bought a cheesecake on my way home today.

But it was stormy as hell.

[swift tinsel]

lmao

honestly I'd fuck up a variety cheesecake

any day

[plush roost]

My mythic raid cooking schedule is legit just 5 straight days of chicken and rice. If my gf veto's shes cooking

[keen dome]

We've got some nice new york style in a supermarket atm

they're great

[lilac stag]

mac and cheese with hotdogs for added protien

[minor trout]

ah yeah forgot that apex consumes as well so we wouldnt be able to chain the apex then, got it now

[plush roost]

Pasta make me fat

[swift tinsel]

there used to be this smaller bakery that had really, really good desserts including a few kinds of cheesecake they'd throw in a variety pack and it was absolute heaven

they had a salted caramel and pecan one that I dream about

[minor trout]

but i guess we shouldnt do that last GCD of dance and then instead finish ^^

[lilac stag]

if you racechange to panda just call it RP

[keen dome]

Ah man, gimme salted caramel enw york style

[plush roost]

[swift tinsel]

I have a severe weakness for salted caramel anything lol

[hazy breach]

Most of the time it ends on a finisher anyway

(thats part of why you want to start on a finisher)

[plush roost]

"Sorry marsh im rping as a panda and i may not be sober for prog..."

[keen dome]

Where I used to work, we had this fantastic salted caramel pavlova. Best dessert ever.

[left peak]

God tier meal

[hazy breach]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/384115523677585408/1476368868527046726/image.png?ex=69a187e7&is=69a03667&hm=41c91c8b296ec2d6baaa332de6db08b0368d60a645f45b95b2f69c97d4427a38&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=382&height=490

[lilac stag]

show back side

[swift tinsel]

that might quite literally end my existence

haha

[keen dome]

It was real good.

[plush roost]

Buy me a drink first godsamn

[lilac stag]

i ofference mac and cheese with hotdogs. was denied

[keen dome]

thread the hotdogs onto spaghetti

More efficent eating

[plush roost]

Boil the mac in cheese in the hotdog watee

[lilac stag]

desk cleaned.
pc cleaned.
quest log cleaned.
bags cleaned.

https://tenor.com/view/okay-yes-lets-do-it-nick-cage-gif-4889456

[plush roost]

Notice he didnt say:

scAth cleaned.

Truly a wow gamer

[lilac stag]

first thing done. I’ve been up since 3am

dog baths up next

[minor trout]

Would we even prio the SS to procc apex > sec?

[keen dome]

Desk cleaning is very important. Room cleaning, too. Bags? check. Bank? check.

[minor trout]

Ah nvm then we wouldn’t have enough stacks

I’m dumb sry

[lilac stag]

hrmmm I didn’t check to see if you could do any quest turn ins for easy xp at launch.

[astral axle]

i didn't think about eating for mythic week hmm

I usually eat avocado tomato and swiss sandwiches. Sometimes peanut butter and jelly if i'm feeling peckish

[keen dome]

I think you shoudl eat during Mythic

[lilac stag]

fairlife choccy protein shakes will sustain me

[vale vault]

can i yoink anyones BCM profile? ty

[lilac stag]

wowhead

Should have fuu’s

[vale vault]

oh cool ty

[ebon tiger]

Is there some reason Vanish doesn't show up as a utility or essential cooldown when I slot it into the CDM...or why flawless form isn't trackable..or why coup de grace's way of being tracked is just 4 stacks of escalating blade?

[lilac stag]

Use the other vanish icon

[ebon tiger]

only one shows up strangely enough

[silent geode]

you can track coup wth evis

[lilac stag]

welcome to blizzard

[astral axle]

[swift tinsel]

flawless form shows up

[ebon tiger]

I think I'm giga bugged then

[swift tinsel]

yeah yours looks kinda borked

[lilac stag]

goto spells not buffs

[ebon tiger]

oh yeah I'm cooked. I have none of that

[swift tinsel]

likely addon screwing it up

[lilac stag]

100% an addon

doesnt pass the vibe check

[rain hazel]

!wa

[wicked jolt]

Bubbling wax:

• Can be pickpocketed from kobolds in e.g. The Ringing Deeps. (needs The Final Candle questline completed.)
• Only use it on one weapon. (does not stack)

[rain hazel]

!ct

ain't there cooldown tracker strings or something?

[lilac stag]

no

[swift tinsel]

with how many different addons people are using, not likely

would be very messy

[rain hazel]

i was looking at the blizz internal one

[astral axle]

Oh that reminds me is there a new pickpocket item enhancement

[hazy breach]

Fwiw you dont really need to see flawless form, but yeah the vanish thing happened to me too

Just need a new profile annoyingly enough

[ebon tiger]

yeah I just swapped profiles. I created the layout basically the day prepatch launched and obviously things changed. it didn't hang with the changes

thanks lads

[hollow spear]

Which personal resource addon do you use?

[vale pine]

only one is functional tho

[lilac stag]

ArcUI

[astral axle]

Does anyone else have this thing happen where you try to think of the melody to "This Must Be The Place" by Talking Heads but all you hear is "You Can Call Me Al" by Paul Simon?

[lilac stag]

More functionality than the sod one.

[lilac stag]

No but I have My Curse by KillSwitch Engage stuck as an earworm while trying to be nice to the new visitors.

[safe tundra]

what do ya'll think our bis trinkets will be?

for feral its puzzle box and im wanting to cry

and i assume for sin its probs th e ame

[hazy breach]

Puzzlebox

[safe tundra]

but what is it for sub

IS IT PUZZLEBOX HERE TOO?

[hazy breach]

(although the first boss haste on-use is the same on ST)

But yes for anything aoe its puzzlebox

[warm marlin]

whats wrong with solving a little puzzle

[safe tundra]

nOOOOOOOOOO

[safe tundra]

i hate the dumb channel

feels so CLUNKY

[lilac stag]

gonna no on use trinket gang it

[astral axle]

Would it be better if it was a Wordle Box?

[safe tundra]

would be better if i hit the button and solved the puzzle instantly instead of channeling it yes

[astral axle]

Or how about a Subway Surfer Box

Oh, yeah. That makes sense.

[lilac stag]

Box of Donuts

[warm marlin]

when it lasts about as long as cds anyway its not so bad imo

[safe tundra]

im not sure what the best rogue spec to use for raid will be next expansion so lowkey im just learning them all, but it sucks that puzzle box is so good 😭

[keen dome]

It should open up a minigame and you have to solve a tower of hanoi puzzle imho

[safe tundra]

last expansion id just bundle my on use with my cds in macros etc but i cant do that with a channel

[lilac stag]

Can’t do it without either

[safe tundra]

and its just kind of clunky on button mashy classes like sub tbh

[hazy breach]

But yeah sub can get away with just using the first boss on-use haste

Most will probably use that as its hard to get a myth puzzlebox

[safe tundra]

that is fair

but i also will likely play sin and i honestly think puzzle box is guaranteed bis there

on feral, puzzle box is basically nothing comes even close to it

i hate that stupid box

[warm marlin]

i can press puzzlebox and pretend its flag so i have preramp

preramp my beloved

[astral axle]

Every time I press puzzle box that one scene from Mulholland Drive with the lady singing plays and I suddenly discover all the things I've told myself about my life were lies.

[safe tundra]

yeah i guess its a third button to press on sub 😭

[astral axle]

Does that happen to anyone else?

[lilac stag]

Change the icon

[lilac stag]

I get Se7en vibes and wonder why Morgan Freeman’s voice is so dreamy.

[astral axle]

Yeah I'm still wondering what's in that box

Can't wrap my head around it.

[safe tundra]

u dont want to open th ebox

its forbidden

[astral axle]

my ceaseless shitposting aside I think puzzle box is fine. It is an understatement to say that Sub is used to a sequence as it enters CDs.

This is easier than that!

[lilac stag]

you’re just auto attacking at that point anyways

[radiant swift]

is puzzlebox bis for st aswell? or raid in general?

[keen dome]

Holding a hand up to the raid boss and going "yeah mate hang on I gotta solve this rubix cube before I stab you"

[hazy breach]

#subtlety message

[jaunty heath]

atleast academy is nice dungeon to spam

[radiant swift]

oh and a passive dmg trinket then

[hazy breach]

Alnseer

[radiant swift]

im guessing?

[hazy breach]

By far the best

[radiant swift]

makes sense

[gray patrol]

Good afternoon everyone, I'd like to know about priorities in multi-target. We're still using Trickster, so from what I've seen, we no longer use Black Powder to spend Combo Points?

[surreal glacier]

bruh im ready to subtle midnight so hard bruh

[radiant swift]

damn so just a bit of aoe and we already need puzzlebox

[keen dome]

full body picture please, this rules

[surreal glacier]

im shy

[keen dome]

post the panda

[jolly sleet]

subtly playing prot

[keen dome]

Haha

[surreal glacier]

here is full bod

[jolly sleet]

panda lean is peak

[surreal glacier]

fr

[keen dome]

Excellent mog choice

[surreal glacier]

ty

didnt feel like mixing stuff up so went with a chill full set

heres another pic since you complimented my mog

[jolly sleet]

my sub rogue goes by sentinel aesthetics

[surreal glacier]

bros playing demon hunter and thought we wouldnt notice

[jolly sleet]

shhhhh

[shy ermine]

Puzzle box bis as a 2 minute trinket?

[vague garnet]

Do we have a lvling spec somewhere?

[astral axle]

Big Auron vibes

[surreal glacier]

[jolly sleet]

i can smell this picture

[surreal glacier]

[jolly sleet]

panda feet made to be worshipped

[astral axle]

... lilac and gooseberries...

[surreal glacier]

competing with xalatath

[hazy breach]

You use BP in aoe

Coup has higher prio, but BP is all you do besides that

[surreal glacier]

now on a serious note i am literally going into midnight holding 2 daggers to fight a literal cosmic entity.... how does this work?

[sage meteor]

!ui

[wicked jolt]

Guides:

• WoWhead - by fuu
• Method - by Stealthi
• Icy Veins - by Eleem

[jolly sleet]

actually sub is the rogue spec making the most sense since we're actively using shadow magic

[surreal glacier]

no its called being a ninja

and my pandaren is obviously built like a ninja

[keen dome]

stab them

nothing is immune to jsut being stabbed

[surreal glacier]

i cant i ate too much

[hardy orchid]

whats the strat to 90 gonna be

for those for get to play in 2 hrs

[lilac stag]

google: midnight leveling guide

Chatgtp: what’s best leveling strat for midnight

otherwise follow quests and kill things

[nocturne shoal]

It’s always this

[wintry heart]

Our apex talent seems pretty cool (I haven’t read anything about midnight before a few days ago)

[wind canopy]

I expect you to be a sub main this expansion

[wintry heart]

Right now it’s much more fun to me than assassination

And I’m like 10 years too old to play outlaw

So here I am

[lilac stag]

They’re fine. They add some gameplay. The visuals are shit

[jaunty heath]

just follow restedxp arrow

[finite hedge]

Anyone know about what ilvl it makes sense to drop old set? Or does set just instantly die at 81?

[hazy breach]

Old set is just +dmg so i dont think its disabled

Its eventually just gonna get outscaled by ilvl

[swift tinsel]

the cloak stuck around for a while when I was looking at dungeon gearing pre-season

iirc it beat normal dungeon gear

[shrewd lantern]

does it proc still

[swift tinsel]

idk

didn't level on beta

if it doesn't then it'll just be any other cloak

[hollow spear]

Don't think that matters one bit

[robust dust]

!macro

[wicked jolt]

Subtlety Macros:
Here is a macro to make it easier to fit all of your globals into your Shadow Dances:

/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Secret Technique

Deathstalker likes to use this macro instead:

/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Shuriken Storm

This can be combines with trinkes and other cooldown use.

/cast Shadow Blades
/use 13
/use 14
/use Tempered Potion
/cast Ancestral Call

Trickster Rogues can combine Coup de Grace and Black Powder in one button:

/cast Coup de Grace
/cast Black Powder

You can find more macros and details in Guides like WoWhead or Icy Veins.

[hollow spear]

We'll just destroy everything with some nasty dance sectecs

[robust dust]

is there a way to track "the first dance"-timer in buffs?

[hazy breach]

No unfortunately

[oak pulsar]

in the cd manager with do i have backstad available but not shuriken storm for exemple ?

[sacred yarrow]

have fun on todays pre launch everyone, make sub shine out there 📈

[steel sierra]

For leveling purposes, potent powder or 2/2 finality?

[rain stratus]

2/2 finality

[acoustic lodge]

is it out yet

[alpine wraith]

they messed up implementation

servers going down

[acoustic lodge]

Freakin indy companies

[limpid sage]

https://klipy.com/gifs/disintegrate

[alpine wraith]

i got in again

[limpid sage]

as soon as quest spawned I dc'd xd

[alpine wraith]

now im on quel danas

[limpid sage]

are you on a small server

because I'm on Draenor

xd

[warm marlin]

a52 stable as always

[swift tinsel]

I had to get the quest from the adventure log lol

[bleak night]

im questing my way to the login screen

[cunning ice]

i always forget how shitty launch is on a high pop server

[swift tinsel]

|| lol Leeroy Jenkins out here killing blueberries ||

[lilac stag]

Mal’ganis not any better.

[dusty magnet]

did everyone also buy their pre release server login fastpass ??

[swift tinsel]

never had to log out

[dusty magnet]

probably 1000 ppl pop server

if big server blizzard bias

is 66102 the correct build?

[lilac stag]

Man. No XP WA

[swift tinsel]

Malfurion NA pretty chill

[lilac stag]

I just got in

[maiden quest]

Hey! I need some help with a macro, I try to use this from wowhead but can't get it to work
#showtooltip Stealth
/cancelaura [nocombat] Shadow Dance
/cast !Stealth

Any ideas?

[robust light]

logging in to game server

who else

[swift tinsel]

I'm already 90

[lilac stag]

log off beta

[short radish]

this is for retail discussion not classic mop

[swift tinsel]

[latent folio]

is everyone leveling as sub ??

whats the go

[warm marlin]

personally im levelling as logging in to gamer server

[lusty mango]

#showtooltip​ Stealth
/cancelaura [nocombat] shadow dance
/stopattack
/stopcasting
/cast stealth

I've found this macro from an old vid, maybe it works.

[lilac stag]

/cancelaura [nocombat] Shadow Dance
/cast !stealth
/cleartarget
/targetenemy
/cast pick pocket
/cast sap

[maiden quest]

I will try it. TY

[split zodiac]

Hello ! I guess like every single extension, sub is the best spec for leveling ?

[strange chasm]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[halcyon pendant]

Able to get to 7 charged combo points outside of combat 😮

[pale elk]

there a build to follow for prepatch or nah

[halcyon pendant]

And they stay when engaging combat!

[woeful harbor]

!macro

[wicked jolt]

Subtlety Macros:
Here is a macro to make it easier to fit all of your globals into your Shadow Dances:

/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Secret Technique

Deathstalker likes to use this macro instead:

/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Shuriken Storm

This can be combines with trinkes and other cooldown use.

/cast Shadow Blades
/use 13
/use 14
/use Tempered Potion
/cast Ancestral Call

Trickster Rogues can combine Coup de Grace and Black Powder in one button:

/cast Coup de Grace
/cast Black Powder

You can find more macros and details in Guides like WoWhead or Icy Veins.

[acoustic lodge]

game crashed

[median epoch]

haven't played in a while - what is recommended hero talent for sub ?

[graceful osprey]

I finally meet our Delve queen, Valeera

[vivid cobalt]

been afk for 6 months is sub still fun burst spec in midnight

[lucid jackal]

Fun is subjective but it is still burst

[warm marlin]

sub is actually insane at levelling now

this is crazy

maybe the first time rogue in general has been good

[swift tinsel]

everything looks so good its kinda nutty

also yeah I'm ginsu-ing my way through everything as sub lol

[warm marlin]

group 6 mobs and just press dance/st macro and explode everything then again 20s later

[swift tinsel]

nothing lives through a full dance

lmao

seeing all the ghostlands quest areas again makes me feel like I'm a teenager again lol

[tribal blade]

i'm doing sub channel work in the middle of lvling

[finite hedge]

welp, looks liek set pieces are dead at 81

no need to worry about that

[earnest charm]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-jim-carrey-duh-uh-yeah-lloyd-christmas-gif-7940001541646448846

[swift tinsel]

cloak still truckin everything into oblivion

[remote rapids]

!wa

[wicked jolt]

Bubbling wax:

• Can be pickpocketed from kobolds in e.g. The Ringing Deeps. (needs The Final Candle questline completed.)
• Only use it on one weapon. (does not stack)

[sullen hare]

Because it's not sub tree it's rogue general. Keep up the good work

[dusty magnet]

so deathstalker is the thing again

[swift tinsel]

not really

again lol

[hazy breach]

Not at all

[wintry heart]

I like trickster so much more than death stalker

[acoustic lodge]

Any advice on how to play around the apex talent

[sullen hare]

Please move your is so the sentence reads so is deathstalker the thing again . Adding a question mark is always in good taste

[wild ruin]

!macro

[wicked jolt]

Subtlety Macros:
Here is a macro to make it easier to fit all of your globals into your Shadow Dances:

/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Secret Technique

Deathstalker likes to use this macro instead:

/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Shuriken Storm

This can be combines with trinkes and other cooldown use.

/cast Shadow Blades
/use 13
/use 14
/use Tempered Potion
/cast Ancestral Call

Trickster Rogues can combine Coup de Grace and Black Powder in one button:

/cast Coup de Grace
/cast Black Powder

You can find more macros and details in Guides like WoWhead or Icy Veins.

[ripe cradle]

is shadowstrikenot on
the cd manager?

[hazy breach]

Why would you want shadowstrike on ther

It doesnt have a cooldown

[ripe cradle]

jus for visual on ui

[dusty magnet]

Thanks for your opinion @sullen hare . On a quick note, i would like to address the whole of the Ravenholdt discord. Punctuation and absolute impeccable english only.
Second edit to avoid prodding a vipers nest.

[ripe cradle]

used to have it swap icons with backstab in stealth

[hazy breach]

[dusty magnet]

@hazy breach I put the is in the wrong order not completely changing what i meant but i also forgot the question mark, guess someone just got out of bed with the wrong foot

[dusty magnet]

totally qgree, it's nice for the big splats of slashing of those marks but, IMHO hero talent trees should just be generally passive all over.

[short radish]

to be fair your initial message was a statement of some minor misinformation

[dusty magnet]

oh Lord

[short radish]

just take the L and move on

[dusty magnet]

goodnight lads

[short radish]

gnite

[dusty magnet]

If the world's global taught in schools language would be english, sure go ahead, give me a few seconds of your day correcting me if it was the only language i knew and needed but it's my third so i honestly don't see the big issue or the L

[short radish]

it's really not that deep

[plush roost]

I honestly thought this is an advanced shitpost

[last gate]

how is the expac compared to tww? (i just play M+ and high end shts)

[dusty magnet]

I honestly couldn't tell if serious or indeed advanced shitposting but well, it is kinda very specific for a shitpost. PS. I think you mean was not is

[short radish]

https://tenor.com/view/falafel-gifalafel-hazfalafel-icanhasfalafel-reaction-gif-reaction-פלאפלאנילקבליכולפלאפל-פלאפל-אנילקבליכולפלאפל-digging-gif-13411844

[plush roost]

No I mean "is" simply due to the fact that it is on going m'lord

[dusty magnet]

Love it, just finally ditching dornogal for a nice city

[last gate]

did they really simplified game to a mobile game?

or its not that bad?

[plush roost]

Beta keys were some of the most fun m+ i have done in a while

[dusty magnet]

I could tell you meant that since it is still being discussed however someone five minutes in the future after the post has been buried somebody could take you for an illliterate imbecile with someone else peggyback riding the tomfoolery.

[last gate]

oh... so maybe? maybe i should spend 70 eur 😂

[dusty magnet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/earth-60

[plush roost]

I think I am illiterate

[short radish]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[dusty magnet]

Milking the milk while it's fresh. @short radish weren't you the one saying i should take the L for my minor spelling mistake?\

anyway

https://klipy.com/gifs/happymothersdaymom-love

[short radish]

yeah but you're not taking the advice so I'm just enjoying the content since I can't play for another few more hours

[dusty magnet]

i'm just taking a few minutes of your life you'll never get back, Better advice would just have been pointing out this is a english discord with people with a lot of different native languages, if someone is so bothered let them correct the sentence, not finger point for an is in the wrong spot in a sentence

[plush roost]

Guys i didnt win bingo...

[dusty magnet]

next time i'll axe my question differently

[lucid jackal]

What is happening LOL

[dusty magnet]

the highlight of the night
very minor spelling correction and implying not using punctuation is an act of bad taste.

[short radish]

i'm just killing time waiting for my lunch order

which i have now so wahoo

[dusty magnet]

oh yeah and someone actually defending the grammar police, enjoy your food @short radish ,,,

[hazy breach]

Perhaps it's time to drop it (and by perhaps I mean it's definitely time to drop it)

[dusty magnet]

i'm honest though no salt lel

i am dropping it, i have also spent my time forever lost on it. And don't want to become a villain over petty things, but yeah did kill time though, don't worry chief.

i cannot gauge your level of seriousness with the pepe though ❤️ @hazy breach jk jk ofc, it's a pretty Pepe

[karmic harbor]

guys are we winning

[dusty magnet]

Cant tell and i am too afraid to ask.

[tidal pollen]

!spreadsheet

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[warm marlin]

i see it everywhere I look

[torn tide]

yall hit lvl 90 yet?

[swift tinsel]

Left for a work party for a bit but bout to jump back on and all-nighter it to 90

[warm marlin]

you may be at it for a while

[dusty magnet]

third night, i missed the launch by a day

[swift tinsel]

I work from home tomorrow so it’s all gonna be a blur

[warm marlin]

no one is even 89 yet i believe

[swift tinsel]

I heard someone got banned for exploiting to 90 but haven’t looked into it

Wouldn’t be surprised since that seems to happen every time

[short radish]

just some minor warband tom foolery

[swift tinsel]

[dusty magnet]

I've done worse

[alpine wraith]

im almost 85

so yea 89 would be crazy

[short radish]

first 90s should be hitting in a few hours

i think the record was like 7 hours something?

or 8

[remote rapids]

so there is no combo point tracker or anything anymore? i mean aside from the default ui one?

[swift tinsel]

anyone else's wangbar exploding

nvm its a sharedmedia error

[short radish]

WANG BAR

ITS FOR THE PEOPLE

support home grown organic addons

no added preservatives

[robust light]

guys hows our ST

i understand were doing better in aoe but i was concerned about single target

[torn tide]

wait what damn its been like 5hrs hasnt it

or is this like talking about purely questing

cuz i thought doing normal dungeons gave a shit ton of xp, surely someone tried doing that

[warm marlin]

it is quite slow

[torn tide]

cuz i remember some people spamming dungeons for an hour or 2 for 70-80

[swift tinsel]

I've been getting distracted with fishing and herb/mining

[torn tide]

watching the sunwell cinematic again makes me wanna cry its so good

[jaunty heath]

i change my mind im ready for coupe bp macro

[robust light]

bugged quests are my new enemy

[bleak night]

why did they make a currency with prisms icon

just to mock us

[arctic heart]

motherfucker dont want to give me prey quest chain

[mighty crow]

im still heavily debating between sub and outlaw for m+

[torn tide]

trust in ssub's apex

[mighty crow]

whys that?

[jaunty heath]

For trickster in aoe do I need to open with an evi to get snd rolling, or do you just wait for first coup to come up to do it? Cheers

[keen dome]

Voidlight Marl is such a funny name

[bleak night]

void niffens

[swift tinsel]

this version of sub is fucking demonic when it comes to questing, its so much fun lol

can't die and just nukes constantly

also being able to craft light's potential with concentration while leveling is quite nice

[keen dome]

Owns

[swift tinsel]

the new recipe cauldron idea is a top tier banger

W shit love it

[sharp flower]

Heyas guys

How does leveling up as sub feel?

[swift tinsel]

meowdy

it owns

frequent non-cdr-constrained burst feels very good to level with

elites are dying in a single tfd dance lol

[sharp flower]

Not sure what that is yet but honestly im tired of disc priest; ; lmao

[mighty crow]

sub is great as long as you kill your target in the first few seconds

[swift tinsel]

dance uptime is crazy high bc you get constant tfd value while questing

so you're always blasting

[mighty crow]

i dont like the parts where i end up stucking auto attacking cause im out of energy

its kinda why im debating between outlaw or sub but i ahfvent heard anything good about outlaw lol

[swift tinsel]

dance+sectech macro at full cp is literally cheating

decimates everything lol

[sharp flower]

oh man lol

doidoit

[torn tide]

okay this is depressing i spent like 1.5hrs and only got 1 level

[swift tinsel]

starting to hit the wall and its only 1am

oofta lol

[craggy quest]

hit 90 felt pretty slow compared to tww

[vale pine]

trickster winning out by quite abit

[swift tinsel]

its so good for leveling

[vale pine]

good morning lovely people

[swift tinsel]

gooood morning

[mighty crow]

wonder what next weeks buffs nad nerfs are gonna ahve

[swift tinsel]

nothing

they aren't tuning until the 17th

[hollow spear]

I'm not sure if it actually makes a difference if you level as ds or trickster

[torn tide]

heloo

[torn tide]

by fully questing? or dungeons too

[vale pine]

keep in mind tww had higher than intented exp

[swift tinsel]

coup and ub are trucking along with sectech for me

[vale pine]

so early access was actually quite reasonablly paced

midnight is the intended pacing

[torn tide]

i see

[hollow spear]

True, ub kinda underrated

[swift tinsel]

1-1.5hrs per level is pretty reasonable I'd say

[vale pine]

you got nothing else to do

so its perfectly fine if its not fast

[swift tinsel]

oh yeah I'm doing tons of gathering and profession leveling between quests

if fish gave xp I'd be 90 by now lol

16 differet species of fish so far btw

[bleak night]

Apparently im a dumbass for not having immediately started skinning

[swift tinsel]

lol the first thing I did when I got to silvermoon was nab all the midnight profession skills

[bleak night]

Someone in my guild randomly got a couple fangs that sold for 50k each

I was herb/mining on my druid for a couple hours

[swift tinsel]

had mining up to like 40 before dropping for alch

[bleak night]

I think my mining is 91 and herb is in 80s

[swift tinsel]

already burning concentration for max rank light's potential pots lol

[bleak night]

I stopped bc 4 of the mining treasures are in voidstorm so I can't get them

[swift tinsel]

I'm gonna get all of those tomorrow I think

[bleak night]

Maybe i get people to summon me there once they get there

[swift tinsel]

I got maybe one or two from eversong and I'm in harandar rn

and got a few here

quite enjoying the leveling experience so far though

[keen dome]

Silvermoon is real cool

[swift tinsel]

esp relative to past xpacs

1000%, insane glowup

[keen dome]

The most impressive WoW city they've done, it feels so well realized

I love the random generic npcs wandering around

[swift tinsel]

I'm excited to explore it more

Dorn felt a bit too eh

[keen dome]

I liked Dorn a lot, but it wasn't well laid out.

[swift tinsel]

was an odd vibe

[keen dome]

Silvermoon just feels really cool

Speaking from an RP perspective too, it feels alive which owns.

[swift tinsel]

oh yeah, there's a definite sense of hustle and bustle

which is a wild departure from how Silvermoon has been basically since day 1

[keen dome]

Yeah

[swift tinsel]

felt so incredibly empty

[keen dome]

They said they'll possibly (almost certainly, lmao) do org / stormwind too if receptions were positive

[swift tinsel]

Yeah they're pretty overdue

haven't really seen anything meaningful since what, cata

[keen dome]

Yeah

Finding a new idle spot is gonna be a challenge.

[jaunty heath]

do you strike or storm in aoe as trickster?

[swift tinsel]

storm

[jaunty heath]

oh i forgot about storm unseen again

my brain melting

[fossil forge]

Any of yall rockin the wow navigation system

The mapzeroth addon vry nice for newer players still lost on this big ahh map

[short radish]

!wa

[wicked jolt]

Bubbling wax:

• Can be pickpocketed from kobolds in e.g. The Ringing Deeps. (needs The Final Candle questline completed.)
• Only use it on one weapon. (does not stack)

[onyx flame]

Please prevent me from Last Minute switching to arcane

[faint helm]

Beginner sub rogue here. What's the point of shadow dance windows in aoe? only thing you can press is Shadowstrike and you don't really use that in aoe right?

[swift tinsel]

you can press any buttons in dance

but you'd press storm in 3+ targets

and black powder as your finisher besides secret technique

[faint helm]

yeah but shadowstrike is the only stealth ability right?

[swift tinsel]

sure

but you only really use that in single target or with 2 targets during dance

[faint helm]

hmm okay, sounds strange that you don't have something more in aoe with shadowdance up

[swift tinsel]

you have talents that buff both strike and storm, as well as finisher damage during dance

[faint helm]

ahh oke

need to read the tree better I guess

[swift tinsel]

that's where most of your damage is concentrated

[faint helm]

alright!

thnx mate

[turbid mesa]

Which spec are we using our companion? If we're putting tricks on it

[swift tinsel]

healer works best usually

also her version of potions || are little hearts ||

[keen dome]

Why no rogue tank spec for me, the rogue tank guy

[short radish]

ngl one shotting basically every mob while levelling

is kinda fun

[swift tinsel]

true and actually

[vale pine]

anyone know if the upgrade costs for hero changed?

*crafted gear spark crest for hero

[swift tinsel]

I can check in a moment

have to run back to silvermoon to drop off materials

[vale pine]

nice, would be lovely

[swift tinsel]

these?

[vale pine]

basically

you need 80 myth crests for max upgrade

how many hero crests are needed for hero

oh ye

80 hero crests

thanks

[swift tinsel]

appears to be 80 for both

[vale pine]

thats quite a nerf

hero used to be 35

thanks

[swift tinsel]

sure thing!

omg tentacle potion

the music in Silvermoon is so damn pleasant lol

[keen dome]

I've found the pet cafe

I have pet all the pets.

expansion complete

[lilac stag]

I’m just casually strolling through quests.

[surreal glacier]

one stabby boy vs the world

or universe i guess

[keen dome]

Make sure to pet the cats

[lilac stag]

lol watching mat prices dip a few hours ago now spiking as people are leveling professions.

[west tide]

guys i hit 90

[surreal glacier]

last titan hype

[lilac stag]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-alert-bumper-adam-devine-pitch-perfect-lame-gif-17474980

[swift tinsel]

sold a bunch of fish for a few k already, there's literally pools everywhere so there's a fuckton to be had lol

[lilac stag]

I bought the ore for engineering and smithing.

only two I care about having at max quickly

[swift tinsel]

already got the light potion and working on flasks atm

I thought the motes might be harder to get but they literally throw fistfuls of them at you

[lilac stag]

Bear Tartar still 🐐

[tribal blade]

stay awhile and listen

stay awhile and listen

stay awhile and listen

stay awhile and listen

stay awhile and listen

stay awhile and listen

cutscene

cutscene

cutscene

cutscene

cutscene

cutscene

[swift tinsel]

lmao I've skipped every single one

[tribal blade]

ME TOO

[keen dome]

Smh

[swift tinsel]

I'm very aware of why I'm helping these people

Acutely, even

[tribal blade]

something something bad guy something help something power

something champion

[swift tinsel]

I always do more of an rp leveling experience on my alts so I'll get the gist of them then

[tribal blade]

i don't care about the lore in the game so i know basically nothing haha

[swift tinsel]

I just gather, storm, press 5 and everything is dead

[lilac stag]

I wonder how many panda rerolls are forgetting to keep a food buff

[keen dome]

Haha

All of them

[keen dome]

Have you visited the pet café yet though

[tribal blade]

nah not yet

[keen dome]

well get going my guy

there's a crab to pet

[swift tinsel]

lmao potions are selling for 1k a piece

[keen dome]

lmao

[tribal blade]

haha i woke up at 6am and leveled till 4pm

i'm taking a break

or else my brain is gonna fall out of my head

[swift tinsel]

its almost quarter to 3 and I might sleep a lil bit since i still "work" at 8am

but its remote so is it really work

[tribal blade]

shrodinger's work

[west tide]

omg the full apex feels so good!!

[swift tinsel]

its all archival scanning too so its literally fuckoff work

[keen dome]

Nice

that sounds fun

[swift tinsel]

I have my lil document feeder scanner next to my desk and just load papers in, scan and rename, add to Drive and I'm on my merry way

[keen dome]

incredible item

gonna use one whenever I do raid tactics

[lilac stag]

Why are none of the quests rewarding and int dagger?

[swift tinsel]

oo nice patron crafting orders give augment runes already, gonna stockpile for raid launch and make 3mil gold

[torn tide]

lmao why

[grand galleon]

is there a bug where first SS does not generate combo points? because it is happening to me all the time - not sure if its due to lag or what

[lilac stag]

nope. Well nothing known. Remove addons.

[fleet acorn]

not using the legend addon?

[keen dome]

Just handynotes

I don't need basic stuff on my map, I've got an extremely good visual memory, so once I know where something is I know where it is.

'ol good memory gestalt they call me

[grand galleon]

not sure this is due to addon, I noticed every time it happens i get error message "Must be in stealth"

ok nevermind, am stupid

[lilac stag]

Well there’s an easy way to fix it

Be in stealth.

[grand galleon]

I had macro, and had /startattack before /cast Shadowstrike

[lilac stag]

bro out here thinking he’s playing TBC

[fleet acorn]

anyone can recommend a weekly what to do addon?

[hazy hound]

been gone for some time, do I just pick m+ talents for leveling?

[swift tinsel]

that's what I've been running and its cozy

maybe switch cheat death with elusiveness if you want

[hazy hound]

thanks 🙂 I suppose sub is probably the most comfortable, right?

[lilac stag]

depends on you

[swift tinsel]

I'm destroying everything lol

[sacred yarrow]

curseforge.com/wow/addons/midnight-routine
or chore tracker, which i personally use
curseforge.com/wow/addons/chore-tracker

[lilac stag]

No gear outlaw maybe better

who know what these folks have

[hazy hound]

110 ilvl 😛

[fleet acorn]

is chore tracker working for midnight?

[sacred yarrow]

I don't have midnight but from update history it seems to not be updated for its stuff yet. that's why I send Midnight Routine first, was just posted yesterday as new!

[fleet acorn]

yea just dont wanna miss out on weekly stuff

i heard something about Larias's Weekly Checklist - but it looks rly bad like the whole ui setup is just not good for my eyes

midnight routine looks good

[sacred yarrow]

never heard of that one, gonna check it

[fleet acorn]

whichone ?

why are there even 2 xd

[vale pine]

handynotes is the baseline addon, it allows you to add random markers to your minimap/map

[swift tinsel]

s'pose I should get an hour or two of sleep lol

[vale pine]

oh nvm, i thought one is the baseline addon

[keen dome]

Always Zarillion

They're an absolute gem of a developer.

Incredibly good effort, minimal impact, actually useful information when needed.

[fleet acorn]

thanks bud

[keen dome]

I use all of their modules. It's such a good suite of tools for collectionism

[fleet acorn]

does the module have silvermoon icons too or do i need to get a sep. one?

[craggy quest]

Questing and delves

And first crafts

[torn tide]

ive been just doing storyline for like 4-5hrs and im only 83 lol

and a half

[craggy quest]

I finished at around 1am est

Was trying to go quickly to play re requiem

[vale pine]

is requiem already out?

[craggy quest]

Yes

[vale pine]

nice

[craggy quest]

At midnight

[torn tide]

just recently right?

[craggy quest]

Yes

Very fun and suspenseful

[vale pine]

my gf and i played village and rly enjoyed it

wonder if requiem is similar

[craggy quest]

No spoilers but I definitely got spooked so far on certain parts

[lilac stag]

I remember why I drop mining. holy distracted by shiney

[torn tide]

LOL 100%

[short radish]

i've also spent 3 hours to just hit 83

[torn tide]

only as good as my level

[short radish]

idk you only enjoy the levelling experience

whats the rush other than to level another char

[torn tide]

yea true there isnt one

[lilac stag]

I enjoyed a 4 hour nap.

[muted kindle]

man trying to break my muscle memory from the removal of rupture 😂 brain is still wanting to press it despite theres nothing in the bind 😂

[lilac stag]

Put detection there. You’ll stop hitting it quickly.

[tepid trellis]

Took me 6 hours to hit 90

[vale pine]

congrats

[lilac stag]

Dungeon spam?

[torn tide]

hmm i might just be bad then

or maybe fully storyline questing isnt the way

[tepid trellis]

Campaign + sidequests

[lilac stag]

ah nice. You’re moving

[lilac stag]

Blizz really out here tuning with memes

[vale pine]

missed oppotunity to make it 67

[lilac stag]

The 69/420 more their target age group

[vale pine]

times change, you need to learn the new lingo if you want to attract new players

[lilac stag]

67 already dead fuu

[vale pine]

whats the new replacement?

[keen dome]

don't like this. nope. not one bit. nuh-uh.

[narrow shadow]

Did they fix the bug of sectec not working with Apex?

[vale pine]

yes

[lilac stag]

41 “forty-one”

[vale pine]

did not see that one yet

[tribal blade]

doing a normal dungeon be like

[torn tide]

lmaoo

holy fuk how is the storyline so long lol

i swear it wasnt this long in tww

[tribal blade]

they did a really good job with the expac this time

it's very good

[torn tide]

yea its pretty nice but i was going in with tww standards

this is wayyy longer

[sly shore]

If ur fast

it's like 3.5hrs

[torn tide]

oh god i must be slow as shit then

[sly shore]

probs more like 5hrs

[pseudo sail]

what is the general consesunsus on classes RN? i was going to skip out on this teir cause i wasn't feeling all the pruning they had done. But it's itching ngl, so i was wondering if the classes feel ALOT easier then before or if its alright.

[sly shore]

they are a lot easier

[tribal blade]

i'm slow as well dw

[pseudo sail]

okay thanks

[torn tide]

its crazy to see my empty bags just all fill up with quest rewards that i dont need

[hollow spear]

I tried to play the game, but it took over for me and the game played itself. It's that easy!

[celest drum]

what is the best build for being a piece of shit and ganking people

do i go full st or do i play like a 2s pvp build

[hollow spear]

you probably have to check the pvp channel

[vale pine]

#pvp might be the best channel to ask

[celest drum]

okok

[hollow spear]

the only thing I am ganking is my fridge

[celest drum]

i wish bro

my fridge has only grey loot

[hollow spear]

maybe you'll proc a legendary if you try often enough

what's the new !wa command?

Something like !addons?

[tribal blade]

anyone know if gear from WQs scale with ilvl

or is it flat ilvl

[tribal blade]

best build for ganking will always be ST build

[west arch]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[vale pine]

I prepared food for today already
#1203397195588435999 message

[lilac stag]

I think some people don’t have a good sense of how long they’re actually playing for.

3.5 hrs first toon. Glhf

[tribal blade]

lol maybe

[lilac stag]

I know I’m getting distracted with mining, but I could see 6-7 hours being doable solo

[vale pine]

depends weather or not you do sidequests or just rush to max level

[lilac stag]

campaign won’t get you to 90

[vale pine]

can spam dungeons after

[lilac stag]

Stealthi said he did campaign and sides in 6

so I don’t think sides are the issue

[torn tide]

im kinda starting to wonder how long this campaign goes on for lmao

ive been at it for like 6hrs nearly

[lilac stag]

A few in guild payed for restedxp. I’m curious what their times end up at.

[hollow spear]

Are these full of veggies?

[vale pine]

filling is: Chicken (seasoned), Advocado, Lettuce, Glass noodles, Carrot stripes, Cucumber stripes, Sprouts, a small amount of crushed Peanut or Wasabi peas

[hollow spear]

was about to say

if those were all full of fibres, that would have been quite the dump tonight

[lilac stag]

@vale pine rather interesting technical bit. Thought it was maybe a bad cable or loose connection. On occasion display would go blank to 1-2 seconds randomly while playing. Apparently HDR issues. Turned that off an no more random blank display.

[vale pine]

interessting

on your screen?

could be a monitor issue too

[lilac stag]

Yeah. Monitor would be fine. On. Etc. game just went black

Only did it wow

not when using Inkscape or resolve

[torn tide]

insanely healthy rolls

[vale pine]

tasty too

[modern sentinel]

Is it those you posted in food porn?

[vale pine]

i would make them more if it wouldn't take so long to prepare everything

[vale pine]

yes

we typically vary protein, decided on chicken this time

[modern sentinel]

[hollow spear]

I feel like I am not even really pressing finishers between dances

backstab souping while farming sht and then going in the next dance

[vale pine]

stuff dies fast

^^

[hollow spear]

not even there

even on the dummy

didn't really play beta/prepatch

so it's quite noticeable rn

[vale pine]

oh

well dance uptime is quite high

but you might need more haste

if you palyed before, you likely have close to 0

in midnight we likely go to ~18%

and then dump stats in mastery/crit

very mastery heavy in m+ because mastery is rly good

[hollow spear]

10% haste rn

I am not max level, so maybe that's part of it

since we want to be at max cp and ideally even want to have a couple of sht stack when going into dance + sectec

I feel like using an evis in between can sometimes delay your next dance window or make it suboptimal

[vale pine]

think you don't rly need to think too much about it during leveling

starting from stealth, most mobs should die with strike-evis even

[hollow spear]

it's not about leveling at all

couldn't care less about leveling

stuff just disappears

[vale pine]

haha ye

[tribal blade]

10% is really low

[vale pine]

you would typically not use finishers close to dance/secret

so using evis too close to dance delays your dance/secret

[tribal blade]

ok hit 88, i'll make 90 tomorrow

[vale pine]

nice

hope you had fun

[tribal blade]

i lvled up during beta

but this was even more enjoyable tbh

this expac is actually really well made i think