Dust gave us triple sectech opener, technology lost to time
#subtlety
uneven scarab
void ocean
i did play sub on nimue or w/e that tree name was was less problematic
lilac stag
we can’t even get prep now 
void ocean
but collectiong orbs, dodging rings and at the same time figuring out which window i am suppose to perform now was like fckin too much
plush roost
Sub with prep would be broken us why
lilac stag
AND WE DONT??
Dmg Amps in raid. We already have high burst
uneven scarab
Dmg Amps in raid. We already have *high burst*
idle aurora
lol I tried sub on dummies last night for like 30 mins. For some reason I keep feel like I am missing something
But there is like nothing to miss
lilac stag
If you say rupture you’re banned
plush roost
Imagine a 30 second shield burn you sblades prep sblades for
Sub would be turbo broken
idle aurora
No like I’m so used to the extra cooldowns my brain is having a card time coping
uneven scarab
Imagine a 30 second shield burn you sblades prep sblades for
Shiiiettt
Aint gotta sweet talk me like that
lilac stag
But there is like nothing to miss
A lot of the krangled prep work for dance is gone. You’re focusing on Sectech lining up with supercharged dance
Dance you now have to decide on which builder or spender based on target count
idle aurora
It’s like…..I don’t hate it.
uneven scarab
I mean it feels a bit empty, but we are missing alot of midnight stuff
idle aurora
I feel like it’s easy but using cooldowns correctly is going to be the expression
lilac stag
it’s more vibe than brain aneurysm
uneven scarab
Im waiting to fully judge
void ocean
Dance you now have to decide on which builder or spender based on target count
do we have a WA for number of targets 😄
or we gotta count now
lilac stag
do we have a WA for number of targets 😄
idle aurora
I also like how minimal I can make my ui
lilac stag
Im waiting to fully judge
I’m content with it. Expecting it to see some improvements in s2
bronze turret
I think its mostly going to be about who is good at their role, that separates gamers
Being a really good melee player was always more important than pressing buttons according to the book anyway
lilac stag
They could have fucked it up way worse and I think we have a solid base with the spec (not counting hero talents)
idle aurora
The class that REALLY feels like it still has skill expression is Windwalker
plush roost
Literally all the depth is now in how the apex talent is utilized so your effectively evaluating a halfbaked project
bronze turret
I could jump on any melee spec and be competitive because i knew how to maximize uptime without dying
lilac stag
The class that REALLY feels like it still has skill expression is Windwalker
Have you seen their exodus from discord? They ain’t happy. Hahahah
uneven scarab
i havent touched ww yet only mw
idle aurora
Woah really?!
lol I really liked testing it
Being able to tp or fly back to attack mob is insane
chrome palm
The class that REALLY feels like it still has skill expression is Windwalker
Outlaw still has some complexity
lilac stag
Woah really?!
Wow 12.0 discord experience. Every spec channel has diehards screaming for blizzard to get off their lawn with the stupid fucking changes, while simultaneously having new people finding enjoyment with the specs.
chrome palm
At least, it has a good number of things to track and you typically have to make an on the spot decision about your next global
Whereas sub is literally just 2 button spam for most the time
uneven scarab
Feel like the only decision making we really have anymore is changing target count
chrome palm
Sometimes with apex you are having to watch sht closely if you’re going for an extra proc
uneven scarab
chrome palm
There’s more in midnight for sure
chrome palm
Yeah it’s a Stone Age spec rn
chrome palm
My spec is neolithic 🥀
swift tinsel
(neolithic is part of the stone age)
chrome palm
The sea peoples (blizzard entertainment class developers) saw my spec was eating good in s3 and had to make a change 😭
lilac stag
Sub is Bronze Age. Game is not.
swift tinsel
The sea peoples (blizzard entertainment class developers) saw my spec was eating...
Sea People my goats
uneven scarab
spec is playable on a wiimote now
swift tinsel
actually have a good read about them on my shelf atm lol
uneven scarab
goal reached
chrome palm
spec is playable on a wiimote now
Wait actually tho
uneven scarab
exactly
chrome palm
Just have one macro for blades secret and dance
You don’t really need more than 1
You can just keep pressing it
chrome palm
I hit 3k rating for the first time as subtlety on my Wii note
✍️
prisma heron
had a guy ask yesterday how it felt.. paused a second and said "numbers good, feels bad"
swift tinsel
idk every spec is simple now
prisma heron
fair, but this is... reallll simpler
lilac stag
They simplified BM but go on
chrome palm
It’s for sure way simpler than most specs
swift tinsel
well it was perceived to be difficult compared to most specs pre-simplification
chrome palm
Sub has no procs or anything which most specs still have
swift tinsel
so the disparity is going to be felt disproportionately for a spec like sub
uneven scarab
i think it was just the cd’s peronally, new players would shit their pants seeing three cooldowns
for us though it was super simple even before
chrome palm
Assa has 3 CDs also
lilac stag
it’s almost like confusing amount of CDs getting streamline made a confusing, yet simple spec seem easy after cleaning it up
uneven scarab
Assa has 3 CDs also
YEP
PERSONALLY i think symbols shoulda been the only thing to go but that’s how i feel
chrome palm
Assa has 3 CDs 2 dots multidotting blindside procs and an uptime buff
swift tinsel
nah flag was the most vestigial one
chrome palm
In prepatch its way more interesting than sub
uneven scarab
ig flag but like
swift tinsel
sod at least could be a hook for tier sets
uneven scarab
Symbols is nearly always used with dance
swift tinsel
and pre-rip supercharger
uneven scarab
Combining them just makes sense
prisma heron
flag and symbols could have both gone imo, which I guess kinda leaves what it is
chrome palm
Symbols was for sure something that played well for experienced players
lilac stag
flag and symbols could have both gone imo, which I guess kinda leaves what it is
Well good news is they both did go.
chrome palm
Since it let you more carefully manage resources
swift tinsel
using it to pull sectech for dance was interesting
lilac stag
Symbols was nearly always macro’d until SC hit
chrome palm
Like a lot of new players would assume you pressed symbols off cd when you run out of energy
uneven scarab
Symbols was nearly always macro’d until SC hit
^
yeah sc was the big change for that for sure
lilac stag
There was some shenanigans with DFA, but outside of that it was macro city from my memory
chrome palm
Well you can also use dance without symbols and symbols without dance
Both were seen in tww
lilac stag
we are talking outside of supercharger. For as along as it’s been a thing, up until SC, it was macro it and forget it
TWW s2/3 was the anomaly.
swift tinsel
but also the most recent iterations
so still warrant consideration
because they're freshest in people's memory vs how it plays now in prepatch/beta
chrome palm
It wasn’t anomalous it’s just how it evolved
lilac stag
it was a quick fix (and a decent one) because you all hated dust
So here we are
And now it’s evolved into dance. So we good.
mortal cargo
is there anywhere u can see recomended talents for Midnight beta?
lilac stag
Every day we gonna complain how bad everything is like outlaw? 
I wish there was some solution to make you happy @chrome palm I really do.
at some point acceptance hits
uneven scarab
just rework goremaw’s and i think this entire discord would be jumping for joy
lilac stag
just rework goremaw’s and i think this entire discord would be jumping for joy
People will still be pissed off
That’s just people
but I agree. Rework Goremaw. Bonus points to turn Danse into Blight
uneven scarab
i liked eleem’s goremaw idea where it allows an extra use of sectech or something
lilac stag
Yep
quasi lava
with Shadow Dance and Secret Technique now having flat 20 sec CD is this talent actually worth it over the second point in Finality?
lilac stag
It just has to be a sm dmg ability to so it’s not auto macro’d
swift tinsel
with Shadow Dance and Secret Technique now having flat 20 sec CD is this talent ...
ye
hazy breach
Secre technique does not have a flat 20s cd
hazy breach
But also without that you cannot do two dances during shadow blades
lilac stag
is there anywhere u can see recomended talents for Midnight beta?
wcl. We don’t recommend beta talents here, though you can base some choices off prepatch talents
void ocean
wcl. We don’t recommend beta talents here, though you can base some choices off ...
slackers
lilac stag
@uneven scarab maybe my bar has just gotten extremely low. We had a shit show when beta first hit. We got to a decent place at its base and they actually did some bug fixing. Historically speaking, we’re eating good this cycle. 
uneven scarab
<@117853202921029639> maybe my bar has just gotten extremely low. We had a shit ...
Remember tww beta? 
it can always get worse for sure
uneven scarab
Overall i think we’re doing fine yeah
lilac stag
like we’re actually playable at launch right now. Does it have room for improvement? Ofc
void ocean
untill i see some bloodmallet sims, i dont believe it
lilac stag
Remember tww beta? <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
Remember when we didn’t have talents going into prepatch? SecretTech was so secret blizz didn’t even know what it was
eagerly awaiting tornado to do something
uneven scarab
Dude they forgot the finisher spec was even a finisher spec
we were builders only LOL
uneven scarab
for a hot minute
chrome palm
👺 🔉 fix my spec 🧌 🗡️
uneven scarab
Nuclear level shadowstrikes
lilac stag
I guess that part of my optimism. All things considered, we’re in uncharted grounds going into a new expansion.
uneven scarab
Im definitely optimistic considering everything is like this
Fire mage is literally 3 buttons rotationally max
lilac stag
except for bfa they’ve usually worked to further improve the spec
uneven scarab
we’ll be alright
void ocean
they should remove CP cap, imagine being able to use only builders for the entire blades and finish with one sec tech of like 55 cp
uneven scarab
chrome palm
Fire mage is literally 3 buttons rotationally max
This is not cause for optimism 😭
lilac stag
uneven scarab
This is not cause for optimism 😭
When mages are down bad it means IM UP
W’s in the chat
chrome palm
Mage is farming everyone on beta rn
lilac stag
1 button spec
lilac stag
So just tuning matter? 
uneven scarab
chrome palm
Is unholy even that crazy rn
chrome palm
I thought they’ve been nerfed already
uneven scarab
They mightve been i haven’t payed attention the last week
chrome palm
Last I checked rogue is better than dk
Last raid testing
Could be more of cocoa spreading falsehoods
uneven scarab
Long as sub stays one of the burstier melee’s its all G
void ocean
so 5 rogues in rwf?
robust dust
hey, is it fine if i bind shadowblades/tirnkets/potions and shadowdance in one macro? should be or?
chrome palm
Yes
spiral helm
hi guys, new to the specc. do we ever press slice and dice?
chrome palm
No
uneven scarab
not really
void ocean
no
uneven scarab
Evisc does it automatically
chrome palm
Yes
void ocean
achchchually
spiral helm
so i can unbind it
chrome palm
Yes
void ocean
if u have spare cps after the pack...
chrome palm
No point
uneven scarab
Not like it gives you cdr anymore
uneven scarab
yeah big W for sure
chrome palm
Probably never dropped it still tho
Unless poopstalker gameplay of not pressing evis
spiral helm
and what is about pure aoe scenarios? i press evis 1 time to get slice and dice? and the continue with powder?
void ocean
not sure u benefit much from snd in aoe
swift tinsel
trickster I imagine wants it but maintained with coup
spiral helm
yeah thats actually the question: do i need a 100% uptime on slice and dice
lilac stag
+1 keybind. 🇼
spiral helm
whats "UB"?
swift tinsel
Unseen Blade
the thing that causes the stacking buff that enables Coup de Grace for trickster
uneven scarab
Nimble changes still getting me a bit
swift tinsel
its more engaging than ds aoe thats for sure lol
uneven scarab
oh absolutely lmfao
lilac stag
I like having some decision making in dance
void ocean
so ds still not back?
uneven scarab
it is
lilac stag
It’s doa
void ocean
st?
swift tinsel
the most engaging part of trickster aoe though is seeing which target gets hit with Unseen Blade after casting storm
uneven scarab
its better in st for sure
chrome palm
and what is about pure aoe scenarios? i press evis 1 time to get slice and dice...
Both hero talents use eviscerate periodically in aoe
void ocean
whos we
lilac stag
poop enjoyers
void ocean
but that implies more than one
lilac stag
but that implies more than one
law of averages. There’s at least 2
void ocean
so they r Siths
spiral helm
can i somewhere see a sub build in a calculator? im lvl 40 right now, cant import a full build :0
lilac stag
!guide
lilac stag
Pick one
void ocean
HoW is a paladin discord, right?
dear god are we having retri palas rerolling sub rogues
lilac stag
holy paladins too
lilac stag
Gameplay wise who knows
void ocean
that trully speaks volumes about sub simplification
lilac stag
They’re always angry
lilac stag
that trully speaks volumes about sub simplification
You know 2-3 weeks after
Launch the rogue rerollers will disappear
void ocean
i dont mind, more the merrier
uneven scarab
literal near immortal dps in prog content
lilac stag
Have you considered ret?
swift tinsel
imma be vibin
uneven scarab
Tbh i want to heal, but theres no chance i get to
void ocean
i did ret(ire)
uneven scarab
we just dont have the dps
lilac stag
Oz gonna holy priest
uneven scarab
I want to mw
lilac stag
I’m happy for him
uneven scarab
i really enjoyed it the past two seasons
swift tinsel
mw is the most fun healer
swift tinsel
always feels like you're doing something useful even when you're just dpsing
its a natural move from melee dps too which is nice
lilac stag
I thought blood dk was most fun healer
uneven scarab
The CD’s also are just insanely fun to use
void ocean
these purple/pink arrows on the sides were my dance WA, made it myself god knows when, probably during SL
uneven scarab
Im gonna alt it again for sure
swift tinsel
and a lot in bfa, lil bit in sl
uneven scarab
im p much stuck on dps for prog
swift tinsel
was mostly rdruid in sl when I was healing
yeah I'm locked in on melee dps for raid
uneven scarab
Yeah same,
lilac stag
No one wants rogue so here we are hahah
uneven scarab
tell me about it
idt a single person in my guild would actually main it
for a seasn
swift tinsel
one of our warlocks might be picking up rogue and they might try recruiting another
quasi lava
Why is the FAQ saying to macro Shadow Dance and Secret techniques? Don't you want to use the extra combo points Dance gives to quicly stack for a full Secret technique?
swift tinsel
but I'd be extremely surprised if I'm not the only rogue the whole xpac
in the guild/raid
lilac stag
Why is the FAQ saying to macro Shadow Dance and Secret techniques? Don't you wan...
You enter dance at 6+ cps
and are attempting to maximize gcd casts during dance
uneven scarab
but I'd be extremely surprised if I'm not the only rogue the whole xpac
Im positive i will be, unless our mt has some psychotic breakdown and decides to play outlaw again after 5 years 
quasi lava
You enter dance at 6+ cps
So you are delaying your CDs to build combo points?
hazy breach
No
uneven scarab
no? You dont have to delay anything
lilac stag
No
swift tinsel
our RL plays ret and used to play outlaw pre-df rework but now that he can obr it again I can see him mayyybe switching at one point
since he was a hekili enjoyer
lilac stag
If you have 0-1 cps, cast dance strike then Sectech
Or you save CPs and don’t finish before dance is ready
quasi lava
On pull you max CP coming from stealth Eviscerate to get Slice up. At that point don't you want to CD? Which would mean you start your CD window needing to Strike?
lilac stag
vanish strike
hazy breach
You also dont really need to eviscerate before going into cds
lilac stag
Or just got strike right into dance
uneven scarab
On pull you max CP coming from stealth Eviscerate to get Slice up. At that point...
stealth->strike->evisc->vanish->strike->dance->secret
upbeat cradle
!macro
wicked joltBOT
Subtlety Macros:
Here is a macro to make it easier to fit all of your globals into your Shadow Dances
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Secret Technique
This can be combines with trinkes and other cooldown use.
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Ancestral Call
/use Araz's Ritual Forge
/use Unyielding Netherprism
/use Lily of the Eternal Weave
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Secret Technique
channel desc still says TWW info is in the pins
spiral sierra
we trick gamers on beta? i tried Deathstalker on prepatch and im wondering if beta we just swap over...... atleast in AoE anyways.
but hopeing raid too
lilac stag
channel desc still says TWW info is in the pins
We’re still mourning or something
swift tinsel
as trickster eviscing before cds doesn't really make that much sense bc you're guaranteed ub's without needing to hope for thousand cuts reset highroll anyways
lilac stag
we trick gamers on beta? i tried Deathstalker on prepatch and im wondering if be...
Trick everywhere on beta
lilac stag
For now
lilac stag
still a ways to go with tuning
spiral sierra
true
swift tinsel
DS will have to be lightyears ahead for me to ever want to play it in m+
like 15%+ ahead
bleak night
Real
hazy breach
as trickster eviscing before cds doesn't really make that much sense bc you're g...
Doesnt matter for deathstalker either
swift tinsel
ye true
spiral helm
last question: in shadow dance, i use shadowstrike for 1-2 targets and shuriken at 3+ targets. i still use spenders, right? powder / evis. and Technique on CD
uneven scarab
last question: in shadow dance, i use shadowstrike for 1-2 targets and shuriken...
Yep, make sure secret is your 1st or 2nd finisher of dance though
you wanna supercharge that mf
spiral helm
i guess i use that macro /cast Shadow Dance
/cast Secret Technique
and enter shadowdance with 5+ cp
dense coyote
is it normal to be out of energy a little before you get to the second secteq?
vale pine
last question: in shadow dance, i use shadowstrike for 1-2 targets and shuriken...
yes
you use spender with 6+ cp
lilac stag
and enter shadowdance with 5+ cp
6+
bleak night
plus ultra
lilac stag
We’re a finish at 67 spec
uneven scarab
misty compass
Kinda new to spec, so wanna know why not 5+ but 6+? 👀
hazy breach
In practice those are almost always the exact same thing
99% of the time you end up with 7 cp anyway
Because shadow techniques fills it to the max
slate citrus
I dont see the personal resource bar in the middle altough I see it in edit mode and its activated. someone had the same problem?
misty compass
99% of the time you end up with 7 cp anyway
Ty
misty compass
I dont see the personal resource bar in the middle altough I see it in edit mode...
Have you enabled it in Interface -> Combat?
bleak night
I dont see the personal resource bar in the middle altough I see it in edit mode...
make sure its turned on in the actual settings menu itself, shows under combat
not just enabled in edit mode
safe tundra
I feel that, but tbh I played sin s1
slate citrus
make sure its turned on in the actual settings menu itself, shows under combat
thank you very much
safe tundra
I’m not HOF but I’ve been bordering HOF for a bit now
I think the main issue of it isn’t burn out it’s just there isn’t a lot of buttons bcuz of the midnight changes
I actually rlly enjoyed sin in s1
lilac stag
We have buttons. Always have. People just don’t stick with it. If you do great.
dense coyote
so is it normal to feel out of energy right before the second secteq?
safe tundra
I think I’m just weird I’ve always alternated between feral druid and rogue LOL I just haven’t tried sub until recently and it’s so weird pressing 2 buttons
lilac stag
assa can 👉 🗑️
But some love it.
safe tundra
I love assa
hazy breach
so is it normal to feel out of energy right before the second secteq?
During dance you shouldnt be running out of energy
void ocean
so is it normal to feel out of energy right before the second secteq?
im not expert but i dont think u should ever be out of energy in dance
safe tundra
I just prefer feral Druid a bit more it feels similar but you don’t get absolutely cooked on ST
lilac stag
back to 2 buttons. Lulz
void ocean
I just prefer feral Druid a bit more it feels similar but you don’t get absolute...
damn furries
safe tundra
It’s true
dense coyote
During dance you shouldnt be running out of energy
so as long as our second secteq is supercharged then ... thats all that matters?
misty compass
What about people who plays outlaw though?
uneven scarab
so as long as our second secteq is supercharged then ... thats all that matters...
They should always be supercharged but yes
steep glen
Confirmed that Impvd Ambush is better than Tight Spender, right?
safe tundra
I’m excited to have another tier on rogue tho
hazy breach
Confirmed that Impvd Ambush is better than Tight Spender, right?
yes
lilac stag
What about people who plays outlaw though? <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
In TWW make sure they take their medication before interacting with them socially.
hazy breach
so as long as our second secteq is supercharged then ... thats all that matters...
You should be supercharging your sectechs yes
Not sure why that is relevant to your previous question
dense coyote
They should always be supercharged but yes
welll ... if the two blue combo points arent lit up and i used secteq then ... would it not be supercharged ? is that how we indicate if its supercharged or not ?
lilac stag
You should only be using Sectech as first or second finisher
misty compass
Honestly it's not about how many buttons you press, it's also about how it feels
tidal marsh
void ocean
maybe button pressing is the friends we made along the way
misty compass
Played BM now I'm playing subrogue, ~same amount of buttons in rotation rn, but it feels way more engaging and entertaining
lilac stag
for some people playing piano matters. They just sucked at reading sheet music
lilac stag
I mean the reworks were designed to make all three specs more approachable
Lowest fucking playrate class.
misty compass
LMAO
lilac stag
so apparently bliz did something right
safe tundra
I don’t think sin was hard before but sub definitely was
I only played sin tho so idk
lilac stag
It wasn’t
lilac stag
You did the exact same thing every time in dance
quick burrow
Sub was hard, ass was easy, outlaw was for maniacs
void ocean
yea, for me it was hard with dust gaming, everything else it was ok
lilac stag
Dust was peak
safe tundra
I think the reason why little people pick up rogue is honestly I noticed there isn’t a whole lot of utility
void ocean
we dont call them little ppl in 2026. cmon man
lilac stag
I still don’t know why anyone would willing reroll to rogue in 2026
safe tundra
I still don’t know why anyone would willing reroll to rogue in 2026
Me LOL
quick burrow
I think the reason why little people pick up rogue is honestly I noticed there i...
If our damage is bad there’s no reason to have us
safe tundra
I don’t like the feral druid changes and my guild needs rogue debuff
lilac stag
If you can’t live as a rogue holy shit
misty compass
Honestly I tried rogue because played it a lot on HC
And retail version is even more fun
safe tundra
If you can’t live as a rogue holy shit
Yeah I don’t think it’s defensive are bad at all but ppl play mage and dk and stuff
lilac stag
I don’t like the feral druid changes and my guild needs rogue debuff
From the sound of 2 buttons you don’t much like rogue either
safe tundra
yeah but I’m indifferent now
I don’t like it rn, I did in s1
the changes suck
but it doesn’t matter cuz on my Druid it’s a very similar rotation
safe tundra
not rlly there was a lot more minmaxing you could do with using your shivs offensively and stuff
void ocean
what
lilac stag
There is no min maxing on assa
safe tundra
at least when I played it s1
hazy breach
Yeah I don’t think it’s defensive are bad at all but ppl play mage and dk and st...
Unless the dangerous mechanic is specifically coded to not be AoE rogue, and sub especially, is absolutely 1000% more tanky than mages
void ocean
i wouldnt call it minmaxing
lilac stag
Do we have an envenom gamer in the chat?
void ocean
u just used it with big cds, thats it
hazy breach
Calling subs defensives "not bad" when the only other class thats even remotely close to being as tanky is DKs is a bit silly
lilac stag
See one season and done
void ocean
well ds was s1 so...
hallow matrix
What’s the general consensus of midnight sub? + or -?
lilac stag
good vibes
safe tundra
I still played a rogue like class I just liked it better since I didn’t have to manage death mark in keys
bleak night
assa played ds all of season 2 as well
bleak night
fatebound wasnt a thing until s3
void ocean
assa played ds all of season 2 as well
did it tho?
lilac stag
S3 it watched other rogues play in keys
void ocean
oh yea shit u r right... i actually shifted seasons forgot i didnt play s1
vale pine
What’s the general consensus of midnight sub? + or -?
its simple but so are all specs in the game now, so we doing great
bleak night
but no one did
safe tundra
its simple but so are all specs in the game now, so we doing great
best answer
I’m not rlly complaining about just rogue honestly it’s everything rn
latent finch
you *could* play fatebound on sprocketmonger
i tried it and didnt proc my capstone 2 pulls in a row and went back to ds
bleak night
lilac stag
I’m not rlly complaining about just rogue honestly it’s everything rn
You are though.
safe tundra
You are though. <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
I can’t list a class I’m happy with tho
lilac stag
it’s fine
void ocean
fdk
lilac stag
Maybe game isn’t for you any longer? Idk
ripe flame
i tried it and didnt proc my capstone 2 pulls in a row and went back to ds <:gar...
Oh no lucky coin, time to step into the other color "accidentally"
uneven scarab
Fdk has been 2 buttons for a min tbf
safe tundra
Maybe game isn’t for you any longer? Idk
already pre ordered midnight and honestly I’d like for my favourite game to be playable
lilac stag
Can return it
safe tundra
I’m sure it’ll become more advanced in a few seasons again tho
void ocean
thats why u dont preorder digital content
safe tundra
Real I learned my lesson
void ocean
it wont run out
void ocean
I just rlly wanted house
millenial?
swift tinsel
can always be a housing main
safe tundra
Worse
swift tinsel
safe tundra
I’m gen Z
void ocean
cant wait to start my hide and seek stream
lilac stag
wtf is Gen Z playing wow
safe tundra
I’m 22
safe tundra
wtf is Gen Z playing wow
honestly I have a lot of friends who play this game in their 20s
void ocean
is streaming hide and seek counterproductive?
lilac stag
my rogue is almost your age.
safe tundra
It’s probably why I hate the changes I need a lot of mental stimulation
uneven scarab
im 27 and ive been playing since i was 16
lilac stag
Get a fidget spinner
uneven scarab
Think my first real experience with this game was cata
void ocean
just play 6-7 on repeat on the second monitor
safe tundra
Too old to understand 6-7 I’m ngl
void ocean
bs
lilac stag
just play 6-7 on repeat on the second monitor
safe tundra
No I swear that’s like a Gen Alpha thing
void ocean
dafuq is gen alpha now
safe tundra
I genuinely have no idea
void ocean
did we finish the circle
safe tundra
dafuq is gen alpha now
generation after Z
void ocean
shouldnt it be AA now
safe tundra
I have no clue LOL
void ocean
or maybe some other ascii
lilac stag
shouldnt it be AA now
Auto attacks?
swift tinsel
Boomers, X, Y/Millenials, Z, Alpha
void ocean
Auto attacks?
anti alcs
swift tinsel
gonna have a whole generation of Betas soon lmao
safe tundra
I hope not
lilac stag
Boomers, X, Y/Millenials, Z, Alpha
You’re supposed to forget Gen X
swift tinsel
You’re supposed to forget Gen X
they've evaporated from the landscape anyways
let boomers steamroll the world for everyone else
gg
misty compass
Gen Z is here, true
I'm 25
safe tundra
Real
lilac stag
Nah that was the millennials
misty compass
And playing wow since i was 9–10 xd
swift tinsel
firmly entrenched in the middle of the millennial timespan
safe tundra
I feel like a lot of us in our 20s have been playing wow since we were lowkey children
swift tinsel
Nah it was 100% Gen X letting boomers run everything into the ground
safe tundra
I’m trying to get my bf to play and he hates it
his brain didn’t develop with the game
he’s not blind to all the bullshit
misty compass
his brain didn’t develop with the game
Lmao thought you're insulting here till i read last three words
safe tundra
LMAO
misty compass
Him*
lilac stag
Nah it was 100% Gen X letting boomers run everything into the ground
You do realize X has houses still. Boomers got bad as M started picking fights and not actually doing anything useful about it. Now Z going after X and that’s going to be hilarious.
misty compass
You do realize X has houses still. Boomers got bad as M started picking fights a...
We have houses in warcraft...
swift tinsel
You do realize X has houses still. Boomers got bad as M started picking fights a...
What does them having houses have anything to do with their apathetic attitude that led to letting boomers do whatever they wanted politically for decades
misty compass
How the f can you even buy a house as gen Z, the prices are way too high
bleak night
why is this trade chat
lilac stag
X is basically an only child that learned to keep itself alive. M did not
void ocean
did someone say...
swift tinsel
keep itself alive by hiding entirely, real brave
misty compass
why is this trade chat
Barrens ahhh chat
safe tundra
How the f can you even buy a house as gen Z, the prices are way too high
Real
I’m never gonna afford a house
warm marlin
I feel like a lot of us in our 20s have been playing wow since we were lowkey ch...
ya seems common, played a bit with my parents when I was 4-8 ish, stopped and came back late SL/early df in my early 20s
torpid anvil
ya seems common, played a bit with my parents when I was 4-8 ish, stopped and ca...
old ahh
teal prawn
!sheet
wicked joltBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
fluid fiber
man, i was away for a few months and just logged back in for the first time. what on earth did they do to this game? they build it around the worst 1% of playerbase now or what the fk happened here? i am speechless rn 😄
robust dust
Is it necessary to Track the silent storm buff?
latent finch
no
hazy breach
Its actually completely irrelevant to track it
tulip light
following scenario in the opener im in shadow dance at the end (no supercharged cp left) and sectech comes up again. do i press it or delay a few sec into next dance to supercharge it?
bleak night
its so funny
to see whats actually quite a good looking ui
then its randomly tracking pumpkins
swift tinsel
strategically tracking pumpkins
odd knoll
is this better bliz manageR?
red vortex
<:Pepegrin:1375228958282612797>
where is the enregy bar 
latent finch
Energy is fake anyway who needs that
fallow nimbus
where is the enregy bar <:omg:1387785827123335349>
it's right there
literally right
west tide
my friends are bullying my class bros how do i fight back
uneven scarab
bro everything is 1 2 1 2 1 2
hazy breach
I mean that was the case last patch too
uneven scarab
Yeah imo sub has looked like that in cooldowns for a while also lol
maybe slightly different but mostly the same
onyx flame
hey, at how many targets do i switch back to st rotation in m+?
hazy breach
Singletarget rotation is done against a single target
boreal robin
Maybe talking your ST spender ?
warm marlin
Maybe talking your ST spender ?
you're not gonna believe this...
uneven scarab
my gender is not ur rotation
drifting fable
my friends are bullying my class bros how do i fight back
Bro
its never been more over
genuinely
this is the most lobotomized ive felt in 6 years of playing
what have they done
void ocean
Whats jover
uneven scarab
warm marlin
yeah but think about how happy joe smith, 59 is now that he can play every spec in the game with the obr
lilac stag
welcome to wow 2.0
warm marlin
and it wont be far behind
drifting fable
yeah but think about how happy joe smith, 59 is now that he can play every spec ...
uneven scarab
isnt the obr still like a 10% loss for most specs
drifting fable
Ridiculous
lilac stag
outlaw OBR doesn’t press AR
uneven scarab
Joe shmo is gonna PUMP!
lilac stag
west tide
its never been more over
theres no spec for us anymore bro..
drifting fable
like actually lol
lilac stag
Maybe try Arc Raiders
void ocean
But hide and seek
lilac stag
Minecraft
void ocean
And ur drake tied in front of ur house
west tide
i got the spongebob sidekick in fortnite already man
uneven scarab
Cranking 90’s on dimmy like its nothing
bleak night
half of them cant yet
uneven scarab
Oh wait. Gen Z don’t drink
Smoke weed and eat taco bell
lilac stag
Cranking 90s slamming Redbulls
void ocean
Yellow monsters
lilac stag
why my spec so slow. MORE CAFFINE
uneven scarab
new monster flavor smacks btw
void ocean
Lol
uneven scarab
lilac stag
void ocean
Joe Roguean
lilac stag
half of them cant yet
At least the ones that can out here, don’t for the most part.
lilac stag
we’re all fucked together
do what makes ya happy as long as you’re not hurting anyone
frosty fossil
As a Gen z gal, I can confirm we don't really drink. 😂. Prefer tea and mocktails and stuff. Drinking and smoking ages you faster and stuff. Also we don't stay up late. Getting 8 hours a night is super important
slate marlin
gen z doesnt drink its true
in what country? not in spain lmao
frosty fossil
in what country? not in spain lmao
Must be an American thing
shell willow
Lol definitely not
frosty fossil
Lol definitely not
Lol I live in America and most of my friends / peers don't drink, stay up late, etc..
tepid trellis
west tide
its interesting that they are becoming more health conscious thats good for them
tepid trellis
think my genes skipped that part
lilac stag
imagine wanting to be healthy and live longer in America these days
strait edge society making a revival.
tepid trellis
i just read that gen z dont drink while pouring myself a drink 
lilac stag
very demure
west tide
they dont go out as much i think
tepid trellis
very gentlemanly even
lilac stag
How can they afford to drink or go out.
tepid trellis
sippin on my iced jack n coke
slate marlin
i dont think you can afford to go out in america lol
west tide
they actually are also more spenders
frosty fossil
its interesting that they are becoming more health conscious thats good for them
For me.. and this is super vain. I don't care about being healthy... I care about being hot for as long as possible
west tide
so its interesting
lilac stag
We prefer on the rocks instead of ICEd
slate marlin
in spain we just drink in the streat with 5€ whiskey bottles
tepid trellis
We prefer on the rocks instead of ICEd
it was meant to be that
but i kinda dropped the ice
west tide
right and their addiction to phone/social media/ the only connection they get is online and its vain
tepid trellis
so then i just completely fucked it up
frosty fossil
Being healthy is just synonymous with hotness.
tepid trellis
and made it iced
west tide
so they care more about outward appearances than other generations
lilac stag
I wish we’d just drop the ICE
west tide
makes sense
slate marlin
they actually are also more spenders
more spenders adjusted to inflation? or more spenders bc everything is expensive af
lilac stag
so they care more about outward appearances than other generations
Like the boomers
west tide
as in they spend more on entertainment
tepid trellis
also just think the culture where i live is very different to murica
west tide
because they dont see themselves owning homes
lilac stag
Ye
west tide
was the article i read
tepid trellis
young'ins start drinking at 15
west tide
so they spend a lot more now
lilac stag
young'ins start drinking at 15
We start drinking in the womb depending where you’re born
slate marlin
i guess
slate marlin
imagine waiting to 21 for a beer
tepid trellis
had my first beer at 12
lilac stag
Stayed in parents basement for 20+ years. Never exposed to chemicals.
slate marlin
my father gave me limoncelo when i was 9 saying it was fanta lmfao
lilac stag
Except maybe radon
slate marlin
thats a fond memory
tepid trellis
lol
chrome palm
40 year olds notoriously more youthful looking than 20 year olds
tepid trellis
yeah gen z look more rough its interesting
it is kinda funny, i have an insane baby face so people still think im under 18
even though im almost 28
west tide
it is kinda funny, i have an insane baby face so people still think im under 18
same here
west tide
latent finch
til im a part of gen z then
lilac stag
it is kinda funny, i have an insane baby face so people still think im under 18
Part health big part genetics. I also don’t get the obsession with Botox and looking like you came from a Saw movie
west tide
the restaurant industry in la is suffering big cause of it
lots of places closing down cause they cant sell drinks enough
chrome palm
i think they just use other vices
west tide
they are gambling
lilac stag
went and got a hot chocy and the barista who had to be 19-20 had more Botox and alterations done than I could ever imagine. Their prerogative, but something I don’t understand.
void ocean
I mean, USA didnt do proper invasion in a decade, cant even get ptsd, why would they drink
lilac stag
sports gambling, card trading
void ocean
Just look at Venezuela, over in a few hours
lilac stag
I mean, USA didnt do proper invasion in a decade, cant even get ptsd, why would ...
Invading ourselves
Making many of us drink
frosty fossil
This sounds like old people coping. But I'd have to do some research before formulating and opinion
lilac stag
legit trying to get dual citizenship with Poland
void ocean
Lmao, kurwa
tepid trellis
Part health big part genetics. I also don’t get the obsession with Botox and loo...
avid gym goer, dont go out into the sun pretty much ever and strong asian genetics 
void ocean
Why u tryna be bobr
lilac stag
if I need to actually get out of the US, options are good.
I have people I can stay with from dog sports
slate marlin
the restaurant industry in la is suffering big cause of it
isnt la like extremely expensive?
bc if u can barely do meets end for rent you cant rly go out to drink
void ocean
Bro u do not wanna try reading stuff there
void ocean
bc if u can barely do meets end for rent you cant rly go out to drink
Bring back the moonshine
west tide
isnt la like extremely expensive?
its oneof the most expensive cities in america yeah
slate marlin
makes sense then, if i had spanish salary in monaco i wouldnt be drinking either
lilac stag
Bro u do not wanna try reading stuff there
It’s also gets me across the pond. Have plenty of folks in uk I can goto after getting there
again. It’s just options
Canada the likely escape route. Hahah
west tide
anyways chat the japanese yen is down we goin to japan again see ya there
void ocean
Yea, Canada then Greenland...
frosty fossil
Canada the likely escape route. Hahah
Ireland is my escape route. Lol.
tepid trellis
just come to Denmark scath im getting a border collie soon
void ocean
Is it just a collie if u r not living on a border
lilac stag
My best friend has dual citizen with Ireland
tepid trellis
i have it with KR and DK
void ocean
Which class is kr
frosty fossil
i want to go to ireland soo bad
They have a program to bring people of Irish descent back to the Isles. So if you can trace your lineage back. You can basically move there for free. It's super cool.
void ocean
Does Irish curse count
frosty fossil
Does Irish curse count
Lol. 😂 I don't think so.
chrome palm
im leading all rupture enjoyers on a search party to find scath in europe
void ocean
I drank so much Guinness and Jameson in my life, I should be granted an instant citizenship
Not to mention im an avid fan of Celtic music
lilac stag
im leading all rupture enjoyers on a search party to find scath in europe
bring it
frosty fossil
I drank so much Guinness and Jameson in my life, I should be granted an instant ...
You're doing gods work. Thank you for service.
slate marlin
jameson enjoyer found
frosty fossil
The drinks, not to trigger any UK
Important distinction
void ocean
Tho with years i switched to more aged whiskies, but still, from time to time...
frosty fossil
Tho with years i switched to more aged whiskies, but still, from time to time...
I mean I don't drink a lot. But I do like Irish whiskey and scotch. I was raised in a good Irish household.... Sooo... Getting a taste for some of these things is a given.
frosty fossil
Proper one
Do it
void ocean
Was organising a stag night for my friend, we went through a bottle of Lagavulin, each
Damn Ron Swanson was right
west tide
They have a program to bring people of Irish descent back to the Isles. So if y...
i got no irish lineage but thats awesome
i only love ireland cause its beautiful and also i saw an irish movie i thought was awesome
bleak wind
is it some lag issue or did they do something with the stance delay for dance->strike it feels waaay slower than before
floral geyser
anyone here good with Arc UI, how do i delete trinket icons
oh nvmind figured it out
sterile iris
Do we just sit on two stack on SD or use one even when SecTech is on CD?
frosty fossil
i only love ireland cause its beautiful and also i saw an irish movie i thought ...
Irish heritage and culture is amazing. 😊
hazy breach
Do we just sit on two stack on SD or use one even when SecTech is on CD?
You want to use two of them during blades
west tide
Do we just sit on two stack on SD or use one even when SecTech is on CD?
i feel like i never held unless sblades was coming up
sterile iris
You want to use two of them during blades
What about outside of SecTech and SD
Would you just use one charge to keep it rolling?
west tide
Irish heritage and culture is amazing. 😊
paul mescal ❤️
short radish
floral geyser
is there a guide on how to use ArcUI
i can't take off cooldowns
and stacks are gone
fuck dude just put back in WA
lilac stag
is it some lag issue or did they do something with the stance delay for dance->s...
That delay has been there for the entirety of TWW.
brisk onyx
idk if Precise killer is woring lol
lilac stag
Same reason the macro doesn’t work
solemn hawk
dumb question but are startattack macros needed again? I took a break from season 3 and now im fighting 2 mobs , kill one and i keep pressing backstab and my toon dosent start auto attacking the other guy, just witing for energy to get back?
brisk onyx
ye combind with /startattack
solemn hawk
ohh damn, sadge 🙁
bleak wind
That delay has been there for the entirety of TWW.
I know its been there, its been there for way longer than TWW, just feels way worse in the prepatch, maybe I am just too used to backstabbing
alpine wraith
yea it can get weird
lilac stag
I know its been there, its been there for way longer than TWW, just feels way wo...
So do dance and storm and see if that feels Normal
bleak wind
probably a combination of that + before if didn't matter nearly as much if you did dance .2 or .3 seconds before so I probably felt it less
bleak wind
So do dance and storm and see if that feels Normal
its just strike
lilac stag
we haven’t done dance strike in a blue moon so it’s going to feel slower
lilac stag
its just strike
Correct. That’s the Stan to strike delay
which has been all of TWW
also when we are doing dance tech to get max casts in dance
bleak wind
I mean I've been doing dance + strike this patch as well, just never really noticed it being that delayed, idk just feels weirder
brisk onyx
I mean I've been doing dance + strike this patch as well, just never really noti...
Yesterday (or the day before?), BZ redesigned cvar. You can check if "actionbuttonkeydown" is 0, as this might be causing your perceived delay.
if ture, try change actionbuttonkeydown 1
/run SetCVar("ActionButtonUseKeyDown",1)
bleak wind
nah its not that
probably my muscle memory just adjusting to not being able to press dance before my gcd is actually ready
or rather trying not to
brisk onyx
tulip light
how many targets is aoe blind capped at?
solemn hawk
is the silent storm crit worth using in ST or nah
boreal robin
Buff no?
spare blaze
I’m from the future and this is not the final build. Below is the final build that will be release prior to xpan launch.
-
Secret tech REWORKED to be a 2 part combo with a 6 second max window between the two presses. ST1 does physical damage, ST2 does immediate clone damage. ST2 duplicates all shadow damage after ST1 initial press.
-
Secret tech now has no CD. Is only usable during shadow dance and only ONCE during each shadow dance
-
Rupture pruning reverted
-
Rupture replicating shadows revert and combined with new replicating shadows
-
Black powder short cd (~8s) that leaves 3 clones that replicate your next rupture and/or eviscerate. Dmg/duration of rupture or eviscerate based on combo pts spent
-
Lashe macabre made more rewarding, talent damage increased by 10% w/ each application and gives stacking 3% versatility buff, expires w/ shadow dance
-
Dark brew reverted. "Rupture does shadow damage, all shadow damage increased by 10%".
-
Goremaw's bite removed
I must return to the future. I will post again some time. GL friends.
plush roost
minor buff for trickster
Is that on beta or just live
hazy breach
Notes say its live but was previously only beta
plush roost
Hmm, im ngl i did notice today that my second supercharger lined up with sectec in sblades
hazy breach
So presumably both now
hazy breach
Dont think its that big, but noticeable
The deathstalker nerf is massive though
Like -6%
plush roost
Yeaaaa thats oof
hazy breach
But the sectech cdr was already working in sims and im too dumb to figure out how to override it to not work so im just not gonna bother
plush roost
No need to override is fixed 🙂
So im not crazy but we send a single dry sec tec once every so often ya?
If were dancing with it on cd?
Its that or i hold 10 seconds before sblades, which is fine as well
My brain just says "well u just supercharge sec tec in your second dance" but maybe thats wrong
plush roost
In ST it makes sense, but in aoe youre just missing a secret technique which feels wrong, even if its out of dance
Youre perma 14 sht so its not like holding has added benefit, other then ensuring youre unseens/fazed is up at start of sblades
Like ig its bad if youre losing flawless form
But i dont think thats happened to me once
sick basin
I mean if you just send the naked sectec yeah it's probably fine
You would still get a sectec in blades window even with no
plush roost
You would still get a sectec in blades window even with no
Yeah thats what i was saying
hazy breach
Idk depends on how much haste you have right
sick basin
I feel like the joke of sub being 2 buttons is a bigger joke cause you just need 8 macros of the same ability lol
hazy breach
Well in midnight if you have the haste on-use you cannot macro it with dance
plush roost
Yeah im at a haste value where i get 2 seconds of dance, and a third second with flag onuse
hazy breach
Or well any haste on-use (like maghar if haste is your highest stat) cannot be macroed
Because theres a small delay for deepening to update
plush roost
Which makes sec tec around 18ish seconds
plush roost
I actually like the flag delay, its like having flagellation back
Push a button to prepare for cooldowns !!!
hazy breach
The flag isnt delayed anymore
plush roost
Oh they fixed it again???
bleak night
hazy breach
Oh they fixed it again???
plush roost
Oh i see i was reading it was just like it was on release good to know its just our spec being janky as usual
sick basin
Oh i see i was reading it was just like it was on release good to know its just ...
Would it really be sub, or rogue even, if it wasn't?
bleak panther
Silent storm has no rotation impact in aoe, and only comes before backstab in ST yes?
hazy breach
Silent storm has no rotation impact in aoe, and only comes before backstab in ST...
You dont use storm over backstab no
It has no rotational impact whatsoever
bleak panther
Oh, so even in ST I don't use it.
pale elk
in shadow dance are we looking to get ever trigger of danse macabre possible? do we have an ideal rotation during shadow dance? as for opener, im reading to evisicrate after secret techniques, wouldnt the evisicrate have no combo points?
tulip light
we dont play around danse macabre
in dance you sectech asap and the other finishers (after using strike/storm) are evis / powder depending on enemy count
pale elk
ah so danse is purely just extra dmg, we never want to intentionally use other buttons for it?
hazy breach
Correct
You just proc it with eviscerate/strike or black powder/storm
And thats it
(sectech doesnt proc it because its bugged )
pale elk
so when we open we want to shadowstrike > sb + sd > tech > shadowstrice > evis ?
woeful wren
@hazy breach does the crit nerf make vers more attractive or still too expensive?
hazy breach
Well its deathstalker only
so
Stinky hero talent is now stinky numerically too
God bless
woeful wren
ye idgaf about trickster sick of playing it, rather play ds
alpine wraith
god bless the death of DS comes swift
alpine wraith
because it is not good nor does it funnel enough
it does have some but they made it as annoying as possible
woeful wren
so you'd rather we spend another season getting zero invs cos our boss dmg sucks or what
alpine wraith
if people fomo brain they dont invite rogues anyway because we dont give group buffs or do overwhelming dmg
but we will be like before not much will change decent to high dmg
and that is it
woeful wren
Dnt get me wrong I think that 5% funnel needs to be closer to 15% at least
But outside of that the only reason we'll ever get into groups is dealing high boss dmg. Not padding with black powder and cleave
lilac stag
trickster was mega pad and low st
It was high priority dmg becuse you literally did your ST rotation. Sub had some of the highest boss dmg s3, with little trade off for aoe/cleave
woeful wren
It was high priority dmg becuse you literally did your ST rotation. Sub had some...
In high keys this just isn't true at all
On trash u could deal good prio dmg cos its short
lilac stag
You didn’t get invites because we offer nothing to the group except a poison
woeful wren
No
But if you think we genuinely did some of the highest boss dmg then there's no point
lilac stag
Our damage profile on bosses didn’t change because of key level. You’re just rewriting the specs strengths as trickster.
If the boss took 2:50 to kill no shit dmg gonna be lower as you clapped off a full set of cds. If that fight was done at 1:50 you’re topping dmg. It’s fight length and cds and if you didn’t use em on the end of the boss you had em for the next pack.
woeful wren
find me a log where a rogue is owning
on bosses
and yes timers are a thing ofc in m+ because then we're useless the next pack
our job was literally to kill important trash and cleave the rest
on almost every boss sub would be last
bleak wind
Stinky hero talent is now stinky numerically too
Was the bug in sims or is this more of a midnight thing?
tribal blade
Was the bug in sims or is this more of a midnight thing?
iirc it was in sims and that's why sims wanted a lot of crit as DS
could be wrong though
vestal escarp
Was the bug in sims or is this more of a midnight thing?
They stealthnerfed the SS dmg node
bleak wind
They stealthnerfed the SS dmg node
what do you mean?
tepid trellis
If the boss took 2:50 to kill no shit dmg gonna be lower as you clapped off a fu...
our resident russian gamer out here tryna do his best
dh is cheating here, he has diver funnel on swampface
bleak wind
iirc it was in sims and that's why sims wanted a lot of crit as DS
makes sense, thought crit should still be good even with just the 20%
plush roost
find me a log where a rogue is owning
Thoughts?
lilac stag
our resident russian gamer out here tryna do his best
Trying to keep up with the cheating funnel spec.
plush roost
True details and log boss damage are incredibly different 8)
tepid trellis
True details and log boss damage are incredibly different 8)
behave yourself or im gonna get hawkk to haunt you next tier
lilac stag
@plush roost just buy him off with Jack and Cokes
woeful wren
but ye, i get ppl dnt like playing ds. but its our only hope to actually be useful unfortunately
lilac stag
if DS is your hope, reroll mate
plush roost
behave yourself or im gonna get hawkk to haunt you next tier
You could say hes watching me like a hawwk
lilac stag
You could say hes watching me like a hawwk
tepid trellis
Hawwk is just a lil e-kitten
lilac stag
Found it
Clearly you only owned because you kept killing the other 2 dps.
ethical gamer
alpine wraith
tell him to equip the optional 45% vers pack
lilac stag
@plush roost I enjoy that your stellar play is discounted as rng from someone with the tag of rng.
plush roost
<@141665120764952576> I enjoy that your stellar play is discounted as rng from s...
I mean, i did hit coup lottery hehe
alpine wraith
just crit more bozo
lilac stag
yeah but your play is generally insane
plush roost
Omg the week 2 fract log
warm marlin
my goat yoinka
plush roost
Yoinka
alpine wraith
all the assa cucks
warm marlin
yes showing all the assas how its done
lilac stag
Yoinka all the crits
woeful wren
I just know whats happened because ive done the keys from 19-21 as well lol i'm not discounting anything
plush roost
All crits and tons of double unseen procs W
woeful wren
Charrend was someone i pm'd for content when i started sub this season
alpine wraith
the double unseen into coup into double unseen sec tech double unseen coup
it didnt end
lilac stag
RL - why can’t you do that?
nova cradle
my goat yoinka
bingusguppy could never
plush roost
I just know whats happened because ive done the keys from 19-21 as well lol i'm ...
I mean youre not wrong either, you needed to play prism+antenna/pacemaker and skip a 9 stack on trash to do BM hunter boss dpa
hazy breach
Was the bug in sims or is this more of a midnight thing?
Yes the extra crit damage was in sims
warm marlin
bingusguppy could never
lowroll perma unlucky
woeful wren
I mean youre not wrong either, you needed to play prism+antenna/pacemaker and sk...
It's just why I hate trickster. Too much was put into the cleave
And evi wasn't even strong
Was like 250k base dmg above BP?
warm marlin
I mean youre not wrong either, you needed to play prism+antenna/pacemaker and sk...
is it fair to compare to bm though
that spec is turbo omega broken