subtlety

[worn ivy]

Gameplay wasnt that great

[alpine wraith]

so legion is forever tainted for me

[old venture]

Nightblade also had like the shortest duration of any dot known to mankind

Lmao

[alpine wraith]

that too holy sh

[old venture]

Just bring back shuriken combo

[alpine wraith]

15 secs

[lilac stag]

This is basically the happy place, then you start looking further down the rabbit hole of how tight the CDR is. How the base spec sucks without trickster bandaid. How FW is miserable. How triggering shadow finishers are. How 6 seconds out of combat means 6-12 seconds in blizzard math…

[old venture]

Remove black powder

Buff sectech

[haughty mural]

Just wear nighthold set smh my head

[old venture]

True

[lilac stag]

Fuck nightblade

[old venture]

Did they ever fix replicating

[lilac stag]

cancer dot maintainer

[lilac stag]

14 months later

[haughty mural]

Yea they did, sub is saved

[old venture]

[haughty mural]

Don’t need to give the spec attention anymore

See you in 14 months

[old venture]

Listen imma be real with yall, sub isn’t getting any sympathy after DF

[lilac stag]

Don’t worry. It’ll be broken again in 11.2

[keen dome]

Sub plays well these days. Just.. 4 - 6% buff please

[old venture]

Mfers skirted under the radar all expac

[keen dome]

hah

[old venture]

And I wish it was actually great, outside of like 4 fights

[haughty mural]

Just to delete smolderon

[old venture]

It was mediocre as fuck

It’s just assa kept getting chain nerfed for bullying people week 1 of heroic raid

And outlaw is well outlaw

I want to wake up in a world where mage and warlock gets the same treatment we got

Because what the fuck

[lilac stag]

smolderon spreadsheet spec. Really skirted. More like avoided. Then pitchforked dust by assa mains.

[half remnant]

It's not my first rodeo, I'm playing it since legion so I know all of that . I caved only once to my guild and player Court last tier as assa

[haughty mural]

Ye

[old venture]

Dust was dogshit

If you can set up MRT timers for your cooldowns for an entire fight

[lilac stag]

no dust was great. Sub cds are dog shit

[old venture]

It’s dogshit

You’re a healer cosplaying as DPS at that point

[haughty mural]

[worn ivy]

https://www.twitch.tv/lashga/clip/IronicHealthyHumanArgieB8 i found bfa subtlety :)))$

[lilac stag]

Subs current state.

[old venture]

Pre nerf Zul nerf?

[worn ivy]

After nerf

[old venture]

BRING BACK SHURIKEN COMBO PLEASE

[haughty mural]

Sorry, all you can get is a 20% bp buff

[old venture]

Just fat pro damage man

Gimmie

[graceful osprey]

Surely they can’t nerf sub more, surely

[old venture]

There’s nothing left to nerf

Tbh there hasn’t been anything to nerf for 2 expacs now

Lmao

Sub was never oppressively great

Except on smolderon

One boss

That’s it

[haughty mural]

Guy would beg to differ

[alpine wraith]

guy is just railroaded into rogue

sub is best prog spec!

[haughty mural]

Maybe I summoned him

[lilac stag]

it’s fun

[half remnant]

Sub is best spec in my heart, deal with that

[old venture]

Guy’s guild forces him to play shit because they saw liquid and echo do it

That’s a him problem lmao

[worn ivy]

I found nightblade gameplay https://www.twitch.tv/lashga/clip/EphemeralCreativeSnakeCmonBruh

Was bad..

[old venture]

Yeah it was absolutely dogshit

But hacha likes to post his s4 eviscerate crits

He’s the only person I’ve heard say bfa sub was fun lmao

[worn ivy]

1 cp nightblade

For the buff

[old venture]

[lilac stag]

It’s had the moments of carrying over BiS items from previous tier to outperform bleeding edge / RWF prog. Outside of that it continues to fall off. Every niche gets taken out back and shot. Prio? moving CDs around via dust? short cd burst ? Nope we’ll buff everyone else

[alpine wraith]

it would not be that bad if every time we got that issue

there were not better specs at that that did not get destroyed

[lilac stag]

remember anxiety in here of EoN getting nerfed.

[old venture]

It’s a rogue’s life man

Remember vault?

Assa got gutted and then they buffed frost mage and BM hunter and uhdk to be like twice as good as assa was pre 100 nerfs

[worn ivy]

Yo what happend to MFD I FUCKING LOVE THAT SPELL

they removed it right 🙂

[alpine wraith]

yes

[worn ivy]

https://www.twitch.tv/lashga/clip/CourageousDreamyToadKippa

[alpine wraith]

they did a bad before deleting it too

made it compete with deeper

LUL

[old venture]

Anytime rogue is good at anything just gonezo

[worn ivy]

It was so good

If u used it good

[old venture]

Yeah it was as good as dead at DF inception lmao

[worn ivy]

I was using it most of the dungeons

[alpine wraith]

they also did that with sepsis

ahaha

[lilac stag]

CN. Assa worst to first arc in what 2 weeks into raid?

[alpine wraith]

oh the 6 buffs in a row

[lilac stag]

SND hahah

[old venture]

Because they listen to zero feedback from rogues

“Uh this is a lot”

[alpine wraith]

and still we were so bad in CN

[old venture]

“NAH ITS FINE MAINTAIN YOUR BLEEDS AND SND LMAO”

[alpine wraith]

even with perma bugged SbS

[old venture]

Assa doing literal tank damage

Then they overcorrect

[lilac stag]

Now it’s envenom simulator

[old venture]

Never forget what it took to make assassination playable in SL

They had to rework two covenant abilities lmao

[worn ivy]

Ohh i remmeber i was playying innefible truth with mfd

[old venture]

On top of like 35% aura buff and adding cut to the chase

Then they just let sub rot

[worn ivy]

Do we have this corruption now
?

[old venture]

Until edge of night

[worn ivy]

With this new update

[lilac stag]

I’m legit falling asleep in raid right now on assa

[old venture]

No we have shitty versions of ev, gushing wounds, void ritual, stars and twilight dev

[lilac stag]

like an old man in a lazy boy chair

[worn ivy]

Garbage actually

They took all the fun

[old venture]

Edge of Night carried sub throughout the rest of SL

Lmao

Then they disabled it

[worn ivy]

They probably gonna do tunnning next week

[swift tinsel]

Nah

[lilac stag]

My beloved lfr eon

[vale pine]

the classic ^^

[old venture]

Remember when hunters got their sylv weapon as a talent? And we got goremaw’s?

[lilac stag]

we never had a normal or heroic drop

[old venture]

[swift tinsel]

They might fix vr or whichever one is proccing half as much as it’s supposed to

Or not, who knows

[old venture]

Wait

They got the quiver too didn’t they?

They got BOTH

And a special rasz bow

And we got Jack shit

[swift tinsel]

Timestrike dagger

[old venture]

I’m getting mad again

[swift tinsel]

Best we can do

[vale pine]

haha don't worry

[old venture]

They then buffed the rasz bow like 3 times after a half assed nerf

And buffed the drop rate chance

[alpine wraith]

they even got black arrow

[old venture]

Meanwhile some rogues never saw an EoN

[alpine wraith]

one of the most cool hero abilities

[swift tinsel]

Hey remember the cantrip dagger we got in LoU

Oh wait

[old venture]

[alpine wraith]

meanwhile coup is just some failing

and DN is

[swift tinsel]

I’m thinking of every other dps

[alpine wraith]

a buff

[old venture]

We got purple puff of smoke, animation lock that took 2.5 months for them to remove, and a coin

[alpine wraith]

AHAHAHA

[old venture]

Wahoo

[alpine wraith]

when you get the lucky coin buff

lets goooo

oh wait

[old venture]

[swift tinsel]

Is that even noticeable yet

[old venture]

Probably not

[swift tinsel]

Visually or on meters/logs lol

[alpine wraith]

no idea

[old venture]

I just found out death stalker has an animation

I’ve been playing it all expac on assa

[alpine wraith]

corrupt the blood also had one

[old venture]

Never noticed

[swift tinsel]

I only ever notice the purple X

[old venture]

Didn’t even notice that tbh

[lilac stag]

Hidden. Just like coup’s

[old venture]

Thanks to these wonderful dungeons, with 8000 ground effects

I’m never looking at the mob

[limpid sage]

Yes but we’re getting Xalatath as a legendary next season (I pray)

[swift tinsel]

Why do that when you can also look at plater frames for cast bars too

On top of all the other visual noise

[old venture]

I’m gonna get xalatath irl and stab myself in the eye so I actually stop logging in

[alpine wraith]

and the sounds WA make

[old venture]

I did hit 3k last night

That was pretty neat

[lilac stag]

Get a doggo with the misses

[old venture]

She’s allergic

[swift tinsel]

Rip

[lilac stag]

bye bye misses

[old venture]

I actually want to cry

[swift tinsel]

Pet allergies are the reddest flag

[lilac stag]

depending on how bad, you can work through the allergies

[old venture]

Nah she’s the best man

Actually goated

[lilac stag]

I used to struggle with cats. A year after living with them and getting my gut sorted better they don’t trigger my allergies any longer.

While evergreens will try to kill me

[old venture]

She developed them late unfortunately

She’s had cats her entire life and just developed an allergy to them within the last couple of years

[lilac stag]

would start looking at gut health

something else may have changed

sad none the less

[haughty mural]

Speaking of guts

[keen dome]

When is Sub getting a big sword

[haughty mural]

Gutripper instead of pv would be cool

Give the finisher spec finisher talents

[lilac stag]

The circle of conversations in here always amazes me.

[keen dome]

I've had the vision break twice while trying to do an all objective multi-mask kill everything run lmao

[old venture]

Bring back hemo

[lilac stag]

https://tenor.com/view/george-lucas-its-poetry-rhymes-gif-19518899

[keen dome]

Bring back the talent that resets all our cooldowns

As a treat

[haughty mural]

Not sure bout hemo brotherman

But sure why not

[lilac stag]

HArP 🐐

[limpid sage]

Get it

[lilac stag]

No

[alpine wraith]

man prep would be so fire

[lilac stag]

At this point I’d be happy with dance being the dmg cd

[keen dome]

Yeah

[swift tinsel]

Would make iterating on the spec way less of a hassle

[lilac stag]

We don’t need 2 90 second CDs

[alpine wraith]

tbh im a bit jadeded with flag and blades

[ionic shore]

I love sub but I'm getting tired of us getting no buffs at all, it's really depressing and makes me wanna crash out of the game. Does anyone have any tips to combat anger issues around this spec?

[alpine wraith]

mainly because of the duration

sub never was a 30 secs need uptime for cds spec

for the longest time

[swift tinsel]

24 and 16 is funny

[lilac stag]

Play mage or dk

[alpine wraith]

like for the new age of people it is fine

but if you lived the good days

it feels disjointed

[lilac stag]

It is disjointed

[alpine wraith]

and not like the burst is crazy just top 8

[lilac stag]

It only pseudo works because of trickster

[warm depot]

play mag eor dk

[alpine wraith]

i recommend arcane mage if you like sub

specially the sunfury one

the other is a bit weirder

or feral/ww

[swift tinsel]

Sunfury was fun when it had double dipping

[alpine wraith]

you can still play spymasters in bosses like OaB and mug zee

to stack it the whole fight

[swift tinsel]

Spellslinger just works so well with how its aoe/funnel works

[alpine wraith]

and pop it on bl

[swift tinsel]

lol I still have my spymasters

[alpine wraith]

gotta suck not having a 639 imagine kekw

[ionic shore]

Ty chat I will try out mage

[alpine wraith]

well at least it drops 632 was it from M court

you can boost mount and get it eventually

if no one wants

[haughty mural]

If you like bursty melee 1.5 min and you want a spec as buggy as sub I recommend ww

[swift tinsel]

SEF is just more colorful sectech

just as buggy

[dry plank]

Mage is safe pick

[haughty mural]

Random canceled channelings are my favorite atm

Esp when it happens to conduit

Or yea stuck SEF clones

[warm depot]

play spriest ya hoser

[alpine wraith]

i cant play spriest now

after the ptsd from surrender

dinopriest is forever buried

[swift tinsel]

spriest gets all the corruptions as capstones

you can have ALL the fun they released this patch

'fun' used loosely

[neon frigate]

When does sub get buffed, maybe 28 may?

[swift tinsel]

11.2 at the earliest

12.0 most likely

[alpine wraith]

surely on my birthday 26 may

note that one down

[haughty mural]

Sub buffs are timegated

[neon frigate]

Small dmg buff is welcome hehe

[swift tinsel]

we get nerfs or backstab/bp buffs

[fiery pewter]

FW to 60%

[swift tinsel]

70% and only in dance

and its damage taken, not armor pen

(armor is dumb, remove it as a boss/mob mechanic)

[fiery pewter]

FW becomes our primary damage CD

[swift tinsel]

increase the vuln and tie it to dance and it boosts burst

[ashen dock]

Backstab Damage increased by 7% - PvP only.

[haughty mural]

It will buff backstab by 70%

As a separate shadow hit

We like split dmg

[swift tinsel]

One separate shadow hit per dagger

we MH/OH hit gamers

[haughty mural]

Now we are talking

[swift tinsel]

didn't mutilate do that

the mh/oh hits separately had a chance to crit and grant extra cp

[void ocean]

backstab buffs first eviscerate in the next pull by 10%

[haughty mural]

*as separate hit

[swift tinsel]

reverse it

evisc buffs backstab

and then becomes backstab

[haughty mural]

When pressing shadow dance all your abilities will be transform to …backstab

[swift tinsel]

Yes chef

[haughty mural]

DM will increase successive backstab hits

The more backstabs the better

[void ocean]

danse backstabre

[north schooner]

backstab consumes your remaining energy for 1% per extra damage per energy point

[haughty mural]

DM will require you to hit from behind tho

[swift tinsel]

no find weakness = no damage dealt

[lilac stag]

DM requires you to hit with a 2H

[void ocean]

backstab reduces ur dagger durability by 10

[steel zinc]

Are the bugs with EV fixed?

[swift tinsel]

lmao

[swift tinsel]

supposedly

[haughty mural]

Supposedly but not really

[swift tinsel]

I've seen conflicting info

[haughty mural]

As far as I can tell from logs and posts

[lilac stag]

supposedly is the live tuning.

[haughty mural]

[swift tinsel]

lmao

[vale pine]

probably

[steel zinc]

cool so jein

XD

[vale pine]

haha yep

its a yes - no - maybe

[steel zinc]

imagine 1 month into the patch core feature working

[swift tinsel]

plus minus

[steel zinc]

the beta within

[haughty mural]

EV requires you to press backstab 5 times in a row to function

[swift tinsel]

only works with goremaws

[lilac stag]

Replicating shadows was 14 months. They’ll get to it eventually. Or just run another corruption. They all suck.

[steel zinc]

the whole content is not my cup of tea

feels like delves

[haughty mural]

Slow and steady

[lilac stag]

no arguing that

[void ocean]

"just play smth else, lol, you have 3 dps specs"

[lilac stag]

Delves are better

[swift tinsel]

shit literally falls over in them

was watching one of my friends run them and its like running a lvl4 delve

[lilac stag]

Done a full 5 mask?

[swift tinsel]

Not yet, was just speedrunning the areas

[lilac stag]

5 mask ain’t falling over

[alpine wraith]

there really is no reason to do it kinda

[steel zinc]

whats the point?

like actually

[alpine wraith]

maybe next week we do an 8 mask

[swift tinsel]

there's a title and maybe some appearance stuff

[lilac stag]

If you want a challenge

[swift tinsel]

but isn't it just the lfr color

[fiery pewter]

Need to be out of combat for 6 seconds

[alpine wraith]

does 5 mask give anything

though it was only 8

[swift tinsel]

I think it gives one of the 2 titles

[lilac stag]

Same dumb ass reason people push keys. Same dumb ass reason beta torghast was goated.

[vale pine]

they suck equally well

[fiery pewter]

Am I crazy for enjoying Torghast more than Delves?

[zenith prism]

I tested TFD bug

[swift tinsel]

it at least had a bit more variety which made it slightly more fun

or at least slightly more interesting

[lilac stag]

Beta Torg >>> Delves >>>>>> live torghast.

[vale pine]

nope

[swift tinsel]

yeah beta torghast was infinite fun

[vale pine]

what did you find?

[keen dome]

Enjoying something in the game is good

[zenith prism]

only work on trashes right?

[haughty mural]

Yes

[zenith prism]

use that storm-vanish macro

[fiery pewter]

I liked the stupid power ups we got, while live Torghast was absolutely still a chore to do the powers made it somewhat fun if you got lucky with the right combination

[zenith prism]

I think it could be good for our huge AOE burst, like every 3min, we have a maghar orc's talent + first dance

very strong burst

[grave delta]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[lilac stag]

Huge aoe burst….

[zenith prism]

Nothing special but a confirmation of Eleem's find

[haughty mural]

[zenith prism]

5 vanish casts, 4 on bosses, 1 on trash

[haughty mural]

Huge aoe burst

[zenith prism]

only the cast on trash works

[zenith prism]

compare to ourselves lul

[vale pine]

nice

we tfdmaxing

[worthy relic]

Sad we cant proc it durning dance to get double tfd in cds

[zenith prism]

I think double tfd is not that useful since shadowblade only lasts 16s

[worthy relic]

I mean, a single tfd already gets u over th 16sec

Double tfd would be full flag duration

[zenith prism]

Yeah but you can delay shadowblades to cover the most part of that

like what imexile is doing

SD-backstab-sod-sectech-shadowblades

so that shadowblades cover the last CP generator even with tfd (12+8)

[alpine wraith]

you already delay blades yea

[worthy relic]

True

[young path]

Sorry really late to this… what’s the macro and what is this?

Is this a way to reset TFD mid trash pull?

[zenith prism]

Yes

[young path]

Hell yah!

Vanish and insta storm?

[zenith prism]

thank you Eleem

our big scientist

[young path]

I’ll give it a go FOR SURE

Wonder if meld does it too

10000000% concur, big TY Eleem

That is huge if I can get it to work for me

[zenith prism]

Only work on trashes, so check before big AOE, then "storm-vanish macro"- rupture - storm - rupture-storm - flag - rupture - enjoy your tfd dance

[junior prawn]

There is this cool PVP talent "Death From Above" they should add it as a talent for sub rogue

[fallow nimbus]

so, is echoing void bugged and what do we do now?

[junior prawn]

you continue as before , zdpsing

[lilac stag]

According to solo it’s not hitting is intended proc rate.

Part 2: it doesn’t matter much

GW is consistent, just ST focus

TD randomly pulls shit (at least visions)

[vale pine]

i updated the pin

GW is def. one option for single target

TD pulling random shit is a bfa problem ^^

[lilac stag]

Last night it was 1.2-1.7 % of dmg on OAB prog

[hazy breach]

Im not a nelf but possibly, lmk if you get it to work

[lilac stag]

VR procing outside of CDs. Lulz

[vale pine]

haha ye

guess none of them is perfect

[graceful crown]

god i missed visions so much, i fucking looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove mage district

thank you, delves, you're a real one

[sacred yarrow]

[keen dome]

@alpine wraith I wonder if this can drop on Hero, too.

I assume it can

[alpine wraith]

lul

[keen dome]

More mastery

[alpine wraith]

kezan is more mastery likely

y it is

[keen dome]

ah, damn

rip

[alpine wraith]

also winners win

used dinar on jastor

then got M hoc

[keen dome]

Hell yeah

[lilac stag]

Nice

hopefully we got OAB Thursday. Hit 33% last night.

[keen dome]

Doing some Visions as assa and lmao Sudden Demise is comical

[hollow spear]

I could swear it only works half of the time in solo content

No idea why

[keen dome]

Garrote rup tempest pack dead

[dusty copper]

How is sub in visions?

I just dinged and im only 520, seemed a bit difficult (ofc super low ilvl)

[haughty rose]

im literally too dumb for this. it says "defeat brainwashed gnomes" and i can't find shit. yellow dot is placed in a spot i can't reach wtf

[bleak night]

theres a gate like 10 feet to your right

[lilac stag]

Bad

[bleak night]

walk around

[hollow plinth]

fuckin brainwashed gnomes

[keen dome]

Absolutely fine, really. But you might have an easier time as Assa 'cos it deletes everything

[dusty copper]

glad

also, do i bind symbols with dance?

[keen dome]

No, you want them as sepereate buttons.

[haughty rose]

yeah it was outside the zone

but its kinda hard to do all the bosses within the time no? i finished 2nd zone and already used the 3 orbs

[keen dome]

You have a permenant sanity drain decrease on killing bosses once iirc, or something. So repeat visits are easy

It gets easier

[swift tinsel]

the decreased sanity drain, increased damage done and sanity bar increases make it way easier over time

[left ledge]

I have an easier time as sub in visions idk

Actually struggled a little with assa 3 mask

As sub I just pulled entire areas with cds, deleted them within one TFD

[keen dome]

Make sure to get the potions that give HP regen, 'cos they make you practically immortal

[left ledge]

Yeah I need a working WA for that

I only have bad and sanity memorized

[keen dome]

They change each run

[left ledge]

No they come in sets

Any time red is bad, blue is sanity

[keen dome]

The bad one will always be the one by the corpse in cathedral

[left ledge]

Blue bad means purple sanity

[keen dome]

Oooh, fair. Yeah no you are right

[left ledge]

Yeah

I just don’t remember the other good ones

Bfa was too long ago

Had a WA for it back then you just clicked the color that was bad

And it filled the rest

[keen dome]

Oh, nice

[left ledge]

Always avoided the fire dogshit because it unstealths you

But the WA don’t work anymore

[bleak night]

change the zone id

and it works fine

[left ledge]

Oh really?

[bleak night]

replace the ones there with 2404

[left ledge]

Nice to know

[bleak night]

next week will have to add the one for org

[left ledge]

Nice nice

Maybe I just send a 5 mask then

Potions giga op

[keen dome]

Yeee

[alpine wraith]

that wa should work still i think

[upbeat cradle]

hmmm

my escalating blade has bee nstuck at 4

for like

30 min now

[alpine wraith]

alt f4 then enter again

happens

[haughty mural]

That’s also a good one

[alpine wraith]

wait until he has his first fall through the ground shadowstep

that is a rite of passage

[haughty mural]

Hehe

[upbeat cradle]

oh i had that one a few months ago

[haughty mural]

Or till he’s wondering why he does no dmg in rookery on first boss

[upbeat cradle]

also happened with a DH skill

[upbeat cradle]

you mean my clones taking a skydiving lesson in the middle of the dungeon ?

[alpine wraith]

yea

[upbeat cradle]

to each their own hobbies

[alpine wraith]

sec tech wont hit him in the middle

so you have to use it before

or after

[haughty mural]

yea afk a bit when hes in the middle

[north schooner]

the spec would be too op if sectec always hit its target

[lofty lance]

guys echoing void or twilight deva for mugzee?

or doesnt matter

[lilac stag]

Assa Gushing Wound

you can splatter mobs in jail if they’re close enough and you’re not in jail

[grave shore]

@vale pine
brotha
in fact what our corrupt RN? still Void even its bugged? or gushing

[lilac stag]

Lulz

[lofty lance]

what about sub

[lilac stag]

It’s awful on that fight compared to assa.

[lofty lance]

ye ik but im still playing sub'

what corruptions should I use

[lilac stag]

Assa is just far and away better on that specific fight

1% of your dps isn’t going to matter

Use whatever

[swift tinsel]

if only there was the very first pin talking about that very info

[lilac stag]

[swift tinsel]

oh shit mb forgot pins are secret

https://tenor.com/view/bob-ross-bob-ross-inzaynia-twitch-gif-998068232686353232

[void ocean]

Yea, secret pins, first pin is read instantly, next 2 delayed

[lilac stag]

accurate

[swift tinsel]

or they don't even show up

or have half the words missing

[keen dome]

Placeholder Pin

[shrewd lantern]

Do people realize the “best” lesser corruption

is a 1% gain

at best

[lilac stag]

worried about .5% dps when assa 300k ahead.

[keen dome]

The best greater is a 2% gain, isn't it?

So it's like whatever

[shrewd lantern]

Yeah idk

people will stress about 1%

[keen dome]

So while I would like to say: Play Sub! It's cool! Play what you want! Scath is absolutely correct that the better choice is Assa.

[void ocean]

I wonder about that belt, how big dmg amp that is

[lilac stag]

especially on a boss where execute is still relevant

[keen dome]

Yeah

[shrewd lantern]

while simultanesouly playing a meme race like vulpera

[keen dome]

It's like, the best spec on that fight isn't it?

[void ocean]

Lets not get hasty

Its still rogue

[lilac stag]

as long as youre not stuck in prison your cleave is likely best melee

[swift tinsel]

I stg I get first jail every time

[shrewd lantern]

assa meter jump when boss reaches execute

[warm marlin]

assa is prob one of the best specs in the game on mugzee ya

[shrewd lantern]

is comedy

[lilac stag]

mmhm

[swift tinsel]

but only when I play sin

[warm marlin]

i don't think sub is as bad as people make it out to be though

[void ocean]

It is

[lilac stag]

But for prog? 100% it is worse on that fight

[swift tinsel]

It depends on how good the rest of your raid is

if they're mid, your damage is way more impactful

[warm marlin]

I played gaols as sub on our recent reclear and was like 500k dps on boss dmg behind my most recent assa reclear (with 5 ilvl and 3% dmg buff)

which is closer than you would expect tbh

(in execute to be clear)

[shrewd lantern]

The worse the rest of your raid is

the better assa execute becomes

[lucid jackal]

It for sure isn't

[shrewd lantern]

[lucid jackal]

it still sux tho

[shrewd lantern]

professional delver spec

jk havoc still prob the world content king

[swift tinsel]

esp when dance drops your threat and everything beelines to brann

[lilac stag]

assa better in delves. Kekw

[shrewd lantern]

nah no shot

[void ocean]

Demise the shit out of everything

[swift tinsel]

bleed sin literally rips through delves

[lilac stag]

just swap to sub on boss

[shrewd lantern]

perma tricks to bran

and only nuke mobs during cds

[swift tinsel]

brann is paper

[void ocean]

What do u need tricks for when shit dies in 5 sec

[shrewd lantern]

my bran lives 3 minibosses on him

[swift tinsel]

just let him dps

[shrewd lantern]

idk

[swift tinsel]

and nuke everything

[shrewd lantern]

i have healer bran

and he tanks 3 minibosses at once

[swift tinsel]

idk mine dies insta at 80

so I just let him dps stuff

[void ocean]

Do u have 3 minibosses in one delve at all

[swift tinsel]

lol nope

unless its sleuce

[warm marlin]

outlaw blows up delves

[swift tinsel]

and he pulls

ye outlaw and sin speedrun

[shrewd lantern]

every delve has 3-4 minibosses

[swift tinsel]

depending on which objectives sub can do great too

[shrewd lantern]

they repoace the regular mobs

[warm marlin]

i like outlaw -> swap to sub for last boss

real tech

[swift tinsel]

that's usually what I did but sin

sin -> one flag window sub kills +11 bosses in no time

[keen dome]

capture the flag?

[void ocean]

Either way with 670+ even t11 delve shit just dies too fast

[lilac stag]

It’s been a very interesting day in here today.

[keen dome]

So far

[swift tinsel]

min/max delves, lfg

true endgame now

[keen dome]

I'm going to get 100's in LFR

I gotta remember to go do it

[swift tinsel]

I think I'm still 150 off from the 500 delve achiev

[shrewd lantern]

i mean delves are fastest crests

if sleuce

[shrewd lantern]

though

wtf is prot war

[void ocean]

A war tank spec

[shrewd lantern]

10m demolish hits

as a tank

[void ocean]

Yh

[frozen lichen]

wtz guys, echoing void has fixed?

[hollow plinth]

It hasnt

[gritty knot]

idk but my Brann is healer & I always perma tricks him, run through the whole delve pulling all shit, doing the obstacles and if Brann dies I just vanish or I vanish and let him die 😄 some delves are like 5-6 minutes like that

anyone did some dungeons with lesser rune of twilight devastation and could share his xp?

[old venture]

Good fuck Brann, useless fuck

[neon frigate]

Hey guys I run mythic 13s on my sub rogue. He is ilvl 676. I am struggling, do you guys think i can make once i go sin? I mean dmg wise

[shrewd lantern]

You need a group to pull around your cds

[jaunty umbra]

do yourself a favor and unspec sub

[void ocean]

For sure... Its boring af but does the job

[wide kernel]

sub is fine in keys just not glamorous, overall isnt everything. A ret with no prio leaving a prio mob up for 15 seconds isn't helping the group by AoEing the prio mob

[gritty knot]

honestly u can play sub until 16s even 17s with pugs if u use ur brain, adapt to pulls and sometimes save cds or delay and u ll still keep up in overall dmg even tho overall isnt everything like Zorn already said

[wide kernel]

lashga was doing 18's before turbo as sub

Also like, the actual ceiling for sub is very very high and if you are even somewhat not super experienced, you likely aren't at the ceiling. Composition matters a lot. If there isn't shaman/monk/warrior in your comp minimum that's kind of on you

[swift tinsel]

esp shaman

playing without one as sub is absolute beans

[white siren]

hi, does anyone know if echoing void is still bugged ?

ty

[gritty knot]

@wide kernel ye its totally possible. Sometimes it's a bit of an headache but ye. I can link some 16s I did recently as sub and u ll see that u can even keep up in Overall. Those guys are pugs ofc and good players will propably nuke me in dmg but for pugging its still good and u can go for those 16s and 17s

[wild hornet]

prog boss, bad pull, we kill it then

sadge

gray logs are the bane of my existence
edit: nevermind i refreshed and it became a green

[gritty knot]

ah that +12 wasnt supposed to be linked

I just saw that Motherlode was even without shaman, damn

[wide kernel]

incorrect

its without shaman, warrior and monk

warrior + monk > shaman btw

[gritty knot]

ik. I just went in the hardcore way

i am not picky. I am happy if I get 1 invite at all as sub xD

[wide kernel]

i havent been able to touch a 12 in like a week with all this crest grinding

i finally got majority of that stuff done + visions done last night so now we go back to roster prog for m+

just make your own groups its far less cancer

what the name of that guy who makes sub wa packages

luxthos?

and bro mass declining rets and dk's is the best feeling ever

[swift tinsel]

luxthos makes all spec wa packs

[gritty knot]

u think so? Last week I run my own +16 motherlode. All people like 3350-3,4k ish. The shaman healer (nearly 3,4k rio) run with the tank at the skip of those mobs infront of 1st boss while we were all pinging him. He was completely lost, even healed the tank. Got aggro, died. We all died. Key was rip like 3 Minutes into the key

[wide kernel]

should i be searching on wago or CF

[swift tinsel]

prob wago

if you're looking for the full setup

his tend to have a lot of extra/unnecessary info for my liking

plus I enjoy making my own

[wide kernel]

im looking for niche stuff

i went to easily view FF form, set stacks, ES blade stacks and etc on right side of my screen

[swift tinsel]

set stacks kinda don't matter

bc you play pretty much the same having 1 or 8

outside of end of m+ pack stuff if you have burst for the next pack

[wide kernel]

i understand why people say that

but if you can optimize even a little around having 8 stacks that's roughly the equivalent of like shadow blades

[hazy breach]

https://www.twitch.tv/gromnak/clip/OpenBloodyOpossumStrawBeary--4Xr8XL4gJoqUdxG?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time
related gromnak clip

[gritty knot]

what. in. the.actual.fk is that 😄

19 deaths 😄 😄 😄

"skipping? not in my team motherfucker" hahahahahahaha

[alpine wraith]

AHAHAHA

[wide kernel]

it would only be in super conditiona situations but like if you're asking me to risk losing 8 stacks on last 1hp of a mob while im trying to proc TFD

yeah that is not happening

might be somewhat optimal or something to go into shadow dance early before flag is exactly ready because flag is 24s anyway

[hazy breach]

The First Dance bug

Its been recently discovered that you can get TFD to work inside combat by using a macro like this.

/cast Shuriken Storm
/cast Vanish```
This will start the 6 second timer for TFD and allow you to still attack the mobs without stopping the timer. This means you get more value out of this talent in keys. However the timer will not start ticking if you are fighting a boss or if you are in shadow dance ![ShadowDance](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1272172011480940586.webp?size=128 "ShadowDance") already, so its mostly something you can do on trash packs to not have to wait 6 seconds before engaging the next pack.

[wide kernel]

ty

[worthy relic]

Nice

[worthy relic]

Does anything else work aside from sectech, coup, bp and storm?

[hazy breach]

I didnt check much more really

Storm seemed the most comfortable and easy to use

[worthy relic]

Yea not like we need any more

Having storm and bp work already covers it all

[hazy breach]

Not sure if shadowmeld works

[worthy relic]

Was thinking about the same

[hazy breach]

I dont have a nelf to check

[worthy relic]

But not nelf

Meld instadrops combat right? The double press is for real stelth?

[hazy breach]

Sometimes

[hidden spade]

Do all these abilities start the TFD timer if running the talent?

[lethal thorn]

so if i understand since echoing is kinda buggy with its proc rate its better to go ritual until we find the reason ?

[worthy relic]

Yes and no, the theory is a delayed hit puts u in combat and doesnt stop tfd timer.
So all those u can cast them and send vanish right after. Starting the tfd timer and then the delayed hit puts u in combat without stoppimg the timer

[haughty mural]

watch them hotfix that tomorrow

[swift tinsel]

lol I was thinking that too now that its pinned

or watch they hotfix that part but the timer is still super scuffed

[alpine wraith]

now it makes sense that in rookery we could get tfd in combat kinda

because after a vanish the zap insta put you in combat

[haughty mural]

yea my thoughts

[haughty mural]

that'd be funny but realistic

[proper temple]

Anyone know if echoing void is bugged for sub or ok to use?

[lilac stag]

Pins

[upbeat cradle]

hmmm

[fiery pewter]

But that would require Blizzard devs to read any rogue forums/discords, which they clearly do not

Its the unpaid intern tackling the forgotten specs on his time off from his 3 min wage jobs

[cerulean beacon]

I think once upon a time there was a dev who’d read this discord

[swift tinsel]

He does, just doesn’t interact as much as previously

[bleak night]

hes still here he just doesnt talk to us

for pretty good reason lmao

he was even here recently talking about the blade flurry bug

[swift tinsel]

It tends to open the floodgates lol

[wide kernel]

brothers i'm not sure how to tell you this, but there is no way the dev reads this

because there would at at least some kind of explaination for why we are getting railed so hard

[bleak night]

im not sure how to tell you this

but you can read things without responding to them

i almost did it just now but couldnt resist

[wide kernel]

that would almost be worse

[lilac stag]

When did you start playing wow?

You have a certain blissful ignorance to you with how the devs, specifically those working on rogue, communicate.

[fallow nimbus]

The quote from one-armed-bandit fits well " better luck next time"

[bleak night]

we'd just rather you not play sub rogue

thats all

[lilac stag]

be prepared to be ignored until the next major patch

[bleak night]

sub is being ignored because there's a massive rework coming next patch

[lilac stag]

Then be prepared for the other two specs to get more attention with sub changes showing up towards the very end

[bleak night]

sub is last alphabetically the changes will always be at the end

[fallow nimbus]

Once ambush from stealth teleports then it's over

[bleak night]

assa is first alphabetically so it gets all the changes first

then they work on outlaw

and get tired of typing by the time they reach sub

it is what it is

[wide kernel]

it is worse i guess then, wowhead article said says as much with the communication

[lilac stag]

You have a better chance of winning the lottery while not playing it than getting any actual communication regarding rogue, specifically sub, development and tuning notes

[wide kernel]

that is a statement, thats for sure

[lilac stag]

Just setting realistic expectations.

[wide kernel]

thing is, i was half chiding originally

because there's no way if X was true than Y would be true

insert small indie company meme

[north schooner]

it's ok, in 3 months they will accept that they don't communicate enough and promise to communicate more, only for the same story to repeat itself for the 10th expansion

[bleak night]

so it is written, so it shall be

[lilac stag]

Ion: we hear time gating is bad.
One week later: hello time gated horrific visions.

[north schooner]

they are just trying a new approach (it's not that the content wasn't ready in time)

[wide kernel]

i think im the only one not complaining about horrific visions time gate

its actually nice not having to grind even more stuff after long week of crest grinding

[lilac stag]

There’s literally nothing to do in this patch and they gave us 30-60 minutes of quests.

you had 10-12 keys to run to max your upgrades if you didn’t waste the lower crests

Zero reason to have the content gated more than it already is behind split location weeks

[sterile kiln]

time gate content so you can juice one more sub from players ez

[wide kernel]

it was like 6 crafts? + 4-6 remaining upgrades?

i ended up having to do a 7th and got myth gloves so it was more

[gritty knot]

Well. They always do this. My favorite was the ring last season from siren island, when they released it with the most shitty gems at the very start, so nobody could use it

Love it. Perfectly balanced as all things should be

[half remnant]

@hazy breach would you be intrested in a log where I got tfd proc during Ipa fight?

[hazy breach]

I believe you

Its probably just certain bosses not having the correct boss tag, just like first boss of grimbatol did last season

[brittle plinth]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/tier-lists/dps-rankings-mythic-plus

Sub on top! (Somewhere)

We are the best

plugs ears

Context doesn't matter

[north schooner]

that explains why ipa can be shadow quaked several times

[hazy breach]

Any more bosses where you get multiple quakes

[native hawk]

@hazy breach do you need to be far enough range that the shuriken storm hits the ads after stealth or something? I cannot replicate it at all in any keys in packs

sry if already explained i tried to take a search ^^

[wide kernel]

Does anyone aside from myself run keys regularly with a physical comp (shaman, warrior, monk) in keys

[hexed sluice]

My guild group is Brew/Pres/Frostmage/Sub Rogue/DH. But seems every pug key I get is 5 melee. So many triple or 4 pally keys lately in the 10-12 bracket for vault

[wide kernel]

Brutal

[tribal blade]

melee is making a comeback this season

the second best comp is physical god comp

[hexed sluice]

Best I can do is sometimes having a feral druid or aug voker instead of DH in main group

All melee has felt nice though this season, or at least fun

[plush roost]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[tribal blade]

issue becomes you cannot have a 5 melee comp in keys atm

or else some keys become really toxic

[summer badge]

What would be the better upgrade first with cartel chips, i have champ jastor and champ house

[tribal blade]

hard to say without a sim, but likely hero track HoC

once you start getting to higher ilvls jastors becomes kinda poop for sub

[summer badge]

OK ty

[hazy breach]

@tribal blade https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/365596580293902336/1374867820277534780/image.png?ex=682f9cf0&is=682e4b70&hm=b3c404b7a434b207db78072b1c7377cd4b606aa11ab625c0a772e7d8637dd59e&
We're gaming (not as sub)

Cutoff gonna go crazy this season though, probably need atleast resi 19s and possibly some 20s

[steady dune]

any word on if echoing void was fixed?

[tribal blade]

HELL YEAH

are you running with a team right now?

[hazy breach]

Mostly but did some pugs too

[tribal blade]

what comp you guys got

[hazy breach]

Enh+assa+udk+vdh+disc

[tribal blade]

nice that's not bad, similar to mine

[hazy breach]

Im mostly passanger princess in terms of stops or kicks

[tribal blade]

we have a ret instead of udk

[hazy breach]

Since having a melee range kick fucking blows

[tribal blade]

lol yes

i've been running bleed iron wire, and my group loves it

[hazy breach]

This season especially has so many instances where you need to kick but theres some ground effect at the same time

Like the paladin packs in priory

[tribal blade]

that's the nice thing about having an enhance

they can kinda solo stops with the vdh

[hazy breach]

DH and DKs are also ranged

Or atleast 2x the range of ours

[tribal blade]

i think every kick should have like a 10 yard range

would make it so much less aids

[hazy breach]

ye

[tribal blade]

the amount of times i miss kicks because i'm just very slightly out of range of my focus

feels bad

[short radish]

warrior/paladin/rogue are only still "melee" kicks yeh?

feral has that charge leap thing

[hazy breach]

Monk too iirc

[tribal blade]

dealing with interrupts is my least favorite thing about M+

[bleak night]

real

[tribal blade]

what if they made it so kick in M+ worked in a way

where the more interruptible targets are in combat in a pull, the longer each cast will take

so interrupts kinda DR themselves in huge pulls

[hazy breach]

The divers in floodgate are a bit interesting because they cant cast at the same time

[tribal blade]

oh interesting

have you guys been going ham on pulling trash into bosses btw

makes such a massive difference for how fast bosses go as sin

[hazy breach]

Arcane being fotm has been great for this because a lot of people have already figured out how to do it

Ye our enhance also gets a bit of damage

[tribal blade]

very true

yeah something about p wave

i've seen some arcane mages lose their mind on udk in keys haha

for pressing aoe buttons on their funnel

[steady dune]

I wish they would change kick to only go on CD if it hits

the number of times that I miss a kick because my tank kicked it first is fuckign infuriating

[hazy breach]

The boomkin hatred is even better

[short radish]

yeah but then you could just bind kick to every bind

[tribal blade]

yeah boomies are bad at that too

pressing starfall

[short radish]

and tbh tank should also always get first kick

[steady dune]

maybe i should monitor what my tank is targeting and target somethign else

[hazy breach]

-1:30 cuz chicken is pig
Good qoute by my favourite bald jordanian man who smokes 3 packs a day at his computer

[tribal blade]

haha

i have a feeling there's a lot of boomies getting carried to title this season

nowhere near as bad as augs getting carried to title in S2 DF though

[steady dune]

bro there are a TON of boomies who are at my ilvl, but im doing 500k more overall than them

[short radish]

attalad.

assert dominance

[steady dune]

as sub btw

[tribal blade]

wait what

beating boomies as sub

[steady dune]

I invite them specificly to carry me XD

[tribal blade]

damn those are some BAD boomies

[steady dune]

yeah bro, fucking horrible

just meta-cucks following the meta and not knowing what to actually do

[tribal blade]

there's a lot of that every season

[steady dune]

one thing I noticed is that theres a big discrepency between details and what wow logs say. Is there a way to bring details in line with wow logs?

[tribal blade]

iirc logs count out of combat time for dps

details only counts in combat time

so they'll always be off

[steady dune]

ah, ok. I think theres a setting in details for that actually, so should be easy to fix

thank you!

[tribal blade]

oh nice

[hazy breach]

You can also hover over the "Active" column on logs and it will show you results more similar to details

[steady dune]

sweet, thanks for the info. I jsut found it

[kind bluff]

can you evasion the mines on mugzee?

[steady dune]

the PUG diff is real. Looking over some logs quickly, my active % is like 5-7% higher on guild runs

[sterile kiln]

you can pop one with just evasion but you will take the magic damage part
if you want to soak more than 1 you gotta use evasion+cloak together

[kind bluff]

so on myth mugz i can evasion 1?

[sterile kiln]

yes

face the mine while popping or you will be deadge

[civic wren]

Could someone give me any pointers on openers? thanks! 🙂

[short radish]

!guide

[wicked jolt]

Guides:

• WoWhead - by fuu
• Method - by Stealthi
• Icy Veins - by Eleem

[short radish]

look at the explanation by fuu

[civic wren]

Ah, I meant for pvp sorry

[lilac stag]

#pvp

[molten citrus]

Openers in pvp aren’t really a thing these days, it’s all very situational

You generally just follow a priority list of what you’re supposed to press and try to line up CC etc

You can read the basics of how the spec functions on wowhead or IceyVeins, IceyVeins has a very bare bones beginner pvp section.

Most of what you do in pvp is going to be learned through experience. Try watching some streams or vids of sub rogue etc

[smoky niche]

why is it that 99% of logs take cheat death on mythic mug'zee instead of elusiveness?

[lucid jackal]

Because cheat death is OP

[shut ridge]

i will never press feint but i will be stupid and get by mechanics like a [REDACTED]

[short radish]

we already have 25% DR from just existing anyway

[kind bluff]

is there a way to fix my log not counting my akaris soul to me?

[prime glen]

Greater Rune of Echoing Void is recommended as the best helm enchant?

If you only wanted to focus on Single Target, would Twilight Devastation be better?

[tribal blade]

there are very rare instances where elusive is better, like kyveza

but in most raid encounters having cheat is insanely good

[wide kernel]

Cheat seems way better in raid yeah

You don't need as much active dr

[wicked urchin]

us not pulling the boss to the platforms on gally is hurting my soul

i'm using cds on third set and i'm struggling so much switching back from the adds to boss wiithout messing up or not having enough cdr for my second dance

[wild hornet]

I opened throughput by spec
Then I closed throughput by spec

I don't like the results

[plush roost]

did some sub rogue swapping on rookery 19

lookat that peak

Sheeee

took 42% off the first shield lmao

[wide kernel]

Yes you should be swapping to sub for last boss rookery

Shindig posted a video on it

[plush roost]

Uh yeah I'm aware haha

[prime glen]

Anyone know if Twilight Devastation helm enchant is best for pure single target?

[molten citrus]

There’s sims of them pinned, we’re just using Ritual until Echoing is fixed

[steady dune]

can you change specs mid run? You gotta run out right?

[neon frigate]

@steady dune i think you have to run out and in

[short radish]

use dungeon teleport to get out

puts you at entrance

alternatively roll with a warlock and get summoned

my mate used to do this in halls of valor.

Fire for first pack -> walk out swap to frost and in get summoned back
Play frost for almost rest of dungeon then Kill Skovald -> hearth out -> swap to arcane - > tp back -> summon back

was cursed but it worked

[tall girder]

Woo garchomp

[short radish]

garchomp the goat

[tall girder]

Fr

U should see me on mage I'm crazy dogshit

[worn ivy]

Yo bois quick question

[short radish]

fimb mage is banned as well

[sullen hare]

Yes it's still dead

[tall girder]

I've been marbled into destro lock next tier they don't know

[worn ivy]

Btw on 6 cp ive ctw ready and blindside proc its better to use fok instead another multilate right ? Dont wanna bother with assa channel

[short radish]

[sullen hare]

#assassination

[short radish]

bro

theres no way

[tall girder]

Nah just press secret technique instead

[short radish]

its a valid question

but there's no fucking way lmao

never change lashga ❤️

[sullen hare]

You'll get your dressing down from whispyr and like it

[worn ivy]

I cba that channel

[tall girder]

Should I press chaos bolt when I'm Max soul shards fimb

[short radish]

no press conflag if its off cooldown

[tall girder]

I was thinking about just not casting and ad strafing shadowburn and conflags

When are we doin fame for fame tho

[worn ivy]

When all the rogue rogue channels become a full troll suddenly ?

[short radish]

when we finally reclear OAB and i can play maple again

[tall girder]

Tell boswald to lock in

[heady dragon]

i literally gave you 2 full answers to that question man

[bleak night]

dont link the guide its a simple question

[ashen dock]

link sub buffs instead

[worn ivy]

Ty

[heady dragon]

+4% black powder

thats all Attention you get for the next 9months

[neon frigate]

@heady dragon is this confirmed the 4% black powder?

[haughty mural]

First they will find the tfd bug

Because it’s a positive one

[neon frigate]

How do u trigger tfd bug? I cant do it

[tall girder]

Press shadow dance I think

Idk for sure I haven't logged into wow for a month

[bleak night]

based

[neon frigate]

No it has something to do with vanish resetting the first dance mechanic

I tried but i dont see it happening

[short radish]

its not worth doing

it's acutally so degen holy shit

im so doing it next key im in

[tall girder]

What if u don't do a key

And prog CRA

[short radish]

still need myth track pacemaker

[tall girder]

Isn't gallywix dead

[short radish]

yeah but now it's the real end game

farming parses

i bought an eye of kezan but thats only good on 5min+ fights

[haughty mural]

[short radish]

lot of the earlier bosses are now sub5min

[haughty mural]

You bought eye of kezan for last boss rookery

And for next raid

[short radish]

[warm marlin]

our bandit was 5:03 this week

with 2 buyers

[haughty mural]

Already seeing it:
next tier eye of kezzan becomes mandatory first few weeks of mythic prog

Because long af fights

[warm marlin]

nah after a tier of all trinkets being relatively mid next tier is going to have omega broken trinkets certainly

[tall girder]

real endgame is not having to log in

[haughty mural]

Watch sub using hoc because they‘ll forget adding 1.5min agi

Or they add one with haste on use

[short radish]

please for the love of fuck

why did you say that

[warm marlin]

they nerf hoc since it's bis next tier -> sub goes back to use transmitter

[haughty mural]

Based

Good thing I didn’t delete mine yet

[short radish]

same

[haughty mural]

Stockholm syndrome… can’t let go now

[dry plank]

I got my transmitter on last vault and was not able to update such a fuked system

[tall girder]

i remember i paid 200k for my heroic transmitter bc the holy priest need rolled it and wouldnt give it to me

[haughty mural]

Yes same thing with hoc
I don’t really understand why its str/agi/int

Even healer roll on it

[severe prism]

Honestly I'm fine with using pvp trinket if there are no good trinket in S3, it's an easy best in slot 😅

[plush roost]

Dw they will buff lingering shaodws, nerf shadow dance, make our cdr scale with haste, buff gloomblade and make secret technique summon extra clones at 15% haste breakpoints

All so we can talent ⚠️ WARNING SIGNS ☢️

[haughty mural]

Finally the ww treatment

Added haste scalings

[wet lava]

Is anyone able to recreate this TFD bug 100%? i get it like half the tiem

[alpine wraith]

only works on trash

and after the vanish you need to hit

[wet lava]

#showtooltip Vanish
/cast Shuriken Storm
/cast Vanish

im using this macro from the pinned

[alpine wraith]

yea and then you have to hit after

also cant do it on dance

or dung bosses

or bosses

[wet lava]

sorry hit what? just any spell?

[alpine wraith]

yea

[wet lava]

bet

ty

[hybrid prism]

Did we get a buff yet?

[keen dome]

Only in our hearts

[upbeat cradle]

Did they fix echoing void yet ?

[molten citrus]

Only in our hearts

[alpine wraith]

close your eyes

[tribal blade]

checking in on my sub boys