wicked joltBOT
Subtlety Macros:
It is not recommended to macro most cooldowns, including Cold Blood+Secret Techniques and Dance+Symbols.
The following macros are an exception:
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Thistle Tea```
```yaml
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Ancestral Call
/use House of Cards```
When using diffrent macros, make sure to keep the cooldowns on a seperate key.
keen dome
!sod
wicked joltBOT
Macro to prevent accidental uses of extra charges: #showtooltip Symbols of Death /castsequence reset=2 Symbols of Death,null /cqs
native zodiac
gally hc is honestly easier then mugzee from my experience
keen dome
That's my gut feeling, honestly
I feel like if we hit P3 he's gonna die
The heroic changes, outside the healing one,s eem pretty whatever
grand galleon
why it is not recommended to macor SD+symbols? even if you fire it back in big CDs due to shadow dance, symbols have pandemic for those remaining 2 seconds
keen dome
You can't consistently fit an anima-charged SecTec into your burst if you have them macro'd, as you'd have to sit either and delay or spend it on something else, as it won't be off cooldown during the second dance window. And you want to go back-to-back.
native zodiac
supercharger is a big problem is you macro dance and symbols together
keen dome
You want the control to always gurantee the supercharged combies are available to SecTec
proven plover
can someone tell me, if the bot uses alchemical chaos flask, do the iterations always start with the same boosted stat, or does it rotate?
grand galleon
You want the control to always gurantee the supercharged combies are available t...
in big CD, i send one more evis before popping another SD+symbols and SecTec still takes second supercharge
keen dome
So you are delaying your Dance window and SecTec won't be in your trinket and potentially not blades, etc.
grand galleon
So you are delaying your Dance window and SecTec won't be in your trinket and po...
yea it is delay of 1gcd but its still in blades thats for sure...but yea I probably should stop being lazy and press more buttons
grave delta
!fuu
wicked joltBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
keen dome
I recommend it. I was doing the same until this tier and it is much better to demacro them and do it 'properly'
It's a pretty decent damage gain, and you simply end up with a lot more control.
Also, this is relatively minor but: you risk dropping tier by having the undance'd Evis between the two windows.
grand galleon
I recommend it. I was doing the same until this tier and it is much better to de...
what keybinds do you use for SD, symbols and blades?...I already feel like my hand is stretching too much
rough jewel
dance first then symbol?
keen dome
I play with my right-hand on the keyboard, so my thumb rests on ctrl. Hence why some of these binds might look very weird.
hollow spear
Does anyone have a screenshot of JPC's keybinds?
grand galleon
how do you turn camera ? 🧐
hollow spear
These are goated
hollow spear
Can you trade Conquest for Honor somewhere? 😄
keen dome
Sadly not
hollow spear
2.5k honor to go and I am slowly losing my mind
lilac stag
Why do you have tornado bound? Smhmyhead
keen dome
Why do you have tornado bound? Smhmyhead
Lazy to unbind it incase it comes back
keen dome
Incredible GallywixH pull. Tank hadn't even done normal, and the raid lead managed to fall down the hole almost immediately on pull.
lilac stag
remove tornado from bars and it’ll go better
keen dome
But I want the comedy. That's half the fun of pugging.
rough jewel
trying to find info about shadow dance and symbol, when exactly to use if not marcoed
hollow spear
!cds
wicked joltBOT
Cooldown Use:
Every 90 seconds you want to cast Flagellation and subsequently Shadow Blades. When these two are up you always want cast 2 Symbols of Death, 2 Shadow Dances and 2 Secret Techniques.
To ensure you have enough cooldown reduction on your Shadow Dance to attain that you need atleast 1 charge and roughly 40 seconds left on your second charge before casting Flagellation.
rough jewel
looks like macro no?
covert crane
Looks like, but it isn't.
hollow spear
Learning to press buttons individually is best for the long run
rough jewel
yes sure
but when to use which? dance first then wait how long for symbol?
im confused, sorry
rough jewel
ok
rough jewel
yea when not to?
hollow spear
and in the case where you don't, a macro will completely int your damage
the 2nd time you use them during flagellation for example
rough jewel
then dance first before symbol?
rough jewel
thanks
grand galleon
how big of a dps diff is using backstab instead of shadowstrike after sd and symbols?
hollow spear
0.5%
keen dome
Not an optimisation to worry about until you are comfortable with everything else, imho.
sly shore
I been far too lazy to do it rn
hollow spear
yeah, if you are not playing perfectly
keen dome
same
sly shore
I'd have to sit on a dummy for 30 mins to rebuild it
vale pine
its even less if you don't have the new 4p
keen dome
I have it setup but I either forget or don't care
sly shore
into my memory
hollow spear
cleaning up your other button presses is more important
sly shore
its even less if you don't have the new 4p
I have that 4p am I inting!!!!
hollow spear
I still wake up drenched at night and think about the parses where I didn't press backstab, dw
and mumble: "It would have been orange, for sure..."
sly shore
that clip is getting about, unsurprisingly
keen dome
haha
vale pine
I have that 4p am I inting!!!!
0.5% inting ^^
tribal blade
wouldn't be a real tier without gromnak raging over a boss' mechanics
keen dome
I need to figure out a way to make my pug groups put on the katamari theme during that boss
hallow sigil
cleaning up your other button presses is more important
I did this quite well especially with overusing CDs and wasting procs, I even started backstabbing after dance. My main issue now is trying to play manual cd. Question here is do you ONLY send it with the 2nd sectec of blades window or do you send it with anything as soon as it's off cd as well?
hallow sigil
Also I sometimes troll by pressing it without having CP and so waste CB on strike 
tribal blade
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947528781546004501/1351328037215539291/pi...
lol classic
slate lantern
I play with my right-hand on the keyboard, so my thumb rests on ctrl. Hence why ...
Wait are you an arrow key mover??
hollow spear
I did this quite well especially with overusing CDs and wasting procs, I even st...
probably best to not send in between
keen dome
I have another hand!!
tribal blade
Also I sometimes troll by pressing it without having CP and so waste CB on strik...
taht's a new one i have yet to hear about
slate lantern
I have another hand!!
Three hands???
vale pine
!sheet
wicked joltBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
keen dome
is this high ilvl yet
me on reset
keen dome
My vault is fat with strength. I am excited for it to be trash.
keen dome
big HoC for you
simple inlet
what gems do we socket for focusing lens?
keen dome
It won't impact your vault though?
sly shore
not really cos you need 2 bosses
hollow spear
what gems do we socket for focusing lens?
doesnt matter
hollow spear
It won't impact your vault though?
yes, your first slot becomes Mythic
keen dome
no
sly shore
no it doesn't
hollow spear
wait what
sly shore
it requires 2 bosses
sly shore
keen dome
If it was like that I'd be ramming myself into the mythic raid this second
keen dome
But Vexie does drop decent loot (shoulder to cat, cloak to cat) so maybe
rocky totem
You have a high chance of hitting mythic tier piece in vault if you only kill 2 bosses anyway, since you don’t need to kill the boss that drops the token to get it in vault
hollow spear
https://imgur.com/1nUZrGo
love this one
sly shore
that eye roll is unbeaten ngl
keen dome
It's very good
sly shore
You have a high chance of hitting mythic tier piece in vault if you only kill 2 ...
same for m+ even, I got myth track chest without killing sprocket 
I love that stix drops leather legs and also has the legs token, isn't that great gear planning from blizzard
keen dome
Haha
hollow spear
had that happen on hc this week
keen dome
Those legs got me 4p, at least
hollow spear
we get another catalyst this reset, right?
sly shore
yeah
keen dome
Yeee
hollow spear
mythic track legs on the menu, boys and girls
sly shore
not the pantaloons bruh
vital flax
Just to make sure i get this right its pretty much always SB+FLag 2xDance 2xSoD then dance+symbols then dance+symbols then u get cds back so its SB+FLag 2xDance 2xSoD again
keen dome
Correct. Always two in our burst window (I.e., Blades + Flag)
Then two after. Then two in. Then one after. Then two in. etc
rocky totem
Minor optimisations but generally yes that is fine
hollow spear
Finality sims slighty better for me on patchwerk than The Rotten
hazy breach
Yep
vital flax
Minor optimisations but generally yes that is fine
like what?
instead of 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 and repeat
rocky totem
like what?
Fitting in symbols + sectec without dance between first and 2nd CDs, and a sectec without either between 2nd and 3rd
dreamy badger
instead of 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 and repeat
you cant sustain always sending 2 dances between cds
you do cds > 2 dances between > cds > 1 dance and you can do no dance sectech with sod > cds and so on
hollow spear
yeah, 2 dances in between only work if you have multiple adds to storm on between cds
hallow sigil
taht's a new one i have yet to hear about
It's a dumbass mistake but believe me I make it sometimes 
Just a case of getting used to manually pressing the button after relying on the macro
vital flax
i know at one point it was worth it to bp instead of evis outside of dance if you had coup de grace up. is that still a thing?
dreamy badger
if you are right before your cds, yes
hollow spear
might as well Rupture then
dreamy badger
or that
rocky totem
i know at one point it was worth it to bp instead of evis outside of dance if yo...
~20s before flag window yes
tribal blade
It's a dumbass mistake but believe me I make it sometimes <:OMEGAKEKW:8290511063...
hey mistakes happen 😉
plush roost
Btw what is the sequencing supposed to be if we are holding coup like that? Flag, coup, dance? Flag, rupture, dance, strike, coup? Dance, sec tec, coup?
I get its for flawless stacks but when do we want those stacks applied
tribal blade
is that actually still a thing
fuu said it's something like a 0.2% optimization
autumn flame
tribal blade
Btw what is the sequencing supposed to be if we are holding coup like that? Flag...
you prob want to use that coup after sectec
just for insurance to get sectec back faster
hallow sigil
Can you send it right after flag without shadow blades tho? If fazed up
sly shore
if ur going into 1.5 min cd's you always sectech first
hallow sigil
And then dance stab sec
stable viper
!wa
wicked joltBOT
hallow sigil
Insert sod between dance and sectec
tribal blade
Can you send it right after flag without shadow blades tho? If fazed up
if you're holding coup for cds then you def want coup cast in dance
plush roost
before sectech if fazed up
And this only applies during non 1.5 dances. Like the inbetweeners yea?
hallow sigil
Fair fair. Another mistake caught on camera 
plush roost
Okay thats what I was doing glad to see i wasnt inting LOL
stable viper
!bs
wicked joltBOT
Backstab/Shadow Dance Macro:yaml #Showtooltip Shadow Dance /cast [bonusbar:1] Backstab; Shadow DanceThis will cast Shadow Dance on first key press and Backstab on second key press.
rain kernel
i need to use backstab as 1st builder in sdance for danse macabre stack...sometimes it doesn't add the find weakness effect...does that matter on stech? or does stech benefits from find weakness apart from the obvious that i ignore armor...talking about the extra shadow dmg u gain from find weakness..cause this happens alot in m+ where i get into dance n symb window and dont have Find weakness on the target
tulip gorge
pretty sure you don't need to backstab in dance
twilit phoenix
Stab in dance is BACK baby
random hare
i need to use backstab as 1st builder in sdance for danse macabre stack...someti...
Idk what yap ur yapping, consume backstab with the rotten and premeditation
U will always have find weakness
tribal blade
even if you don't have FW up on the target i don't think it truly matters for sectec's dmg because the initial phy hit isn't very strong
random hare
Also find weakness does nothing
void hound
how much of a dps loss is macroing CB into sectec?
tribal blade
it's the clones hit that does dmg
void hound
whats the %
random hare
how much of a dps loss is macroing CB into sectec?
@vale pine
tulip gorge
hate to break it to you
tribal blade
it's not so bad since if you played back when it was a thing during DF
the muscle memory will still be there
just need to practice a bit and it'll come back quick
tulip gorge
I didn't 
tulip gorge
I assume you don't macro it to shadow dance or something
tribal blade
there is a macro you can use
but honestly i just press dance, then press stab
i'm trying to not rely as heavily on macros anymore
tulip gorge
is there anywhere I can read about this new tech
tribal blade
!bs
wicked joltBOT
Backstab/Shadow Dance Macro:yaml #Showtooltip Shadow Dance /cast [bonusbar:1] Backstab; Shadow DanceThis will cast Shadow Dance on first key press and Backstab on second key press.
tepid trellis
whats the %
like 1% if you dont always use it in 2nd dance
tulip gorge
do you press shadow dance when at full combo points (since backstab doesn't generate that many)?
tepid trellis
i need to use backstab as 1st builder in sdance for danse macabre stack...someti...
be behind the target, and it will apply FW
void hound
do you press shadow dance when at full combo points (since backstab doesn't gene...
either with 6+ cp or 0 cp since premed gives you a full combo bar
tulip gorge
wait premed doesn't work with shadow dance, does it?
hollow spear
I think macroing CB is more than a 1% damage loss
tepid trellis
yes it does
void hound
so either 0 cp -> dance -> backstab - finisher
or
6+ cp -> dance -> finisher -> backstab
hollow spear
because the second you misalign it and you're out of flag
tulip gorge
well that makes it easier
hollow spear
you are cooked
tulip gorge
do you do this for aoe too?
rain kernel
Idk what yap ur yapping, consume backstab with the rotten and premeditation
ya this made sense..and now i know why my shit wont add find weakness sometimes...i use a naked dance into backstab..evis into symbs > ss > stech when i have first dance up...
tribal blade
do you do this for aoe too?
yes
random hare
ya this made sense..and now i know why my shit wont add find weakness sometimes....
U want to sync dance not specifically for find weakness btw, it’s more of having to use ur symbols at 10 seconds (2 finishers) before ur 2nd sectech inside ur cds
It’s 10 seconds with supercharger
Besides most sectec’s dmg is shadow
So tracking find weakness is cursed
Don’t do that
Just play ur rotation well and that’s it
rain kernel
Don’t do that
Yea well im somewhat of a reverse genius 😏 ...so i guess comes with the curse..ty for the help sir !
random hare
Np
It’s like saying u have to track shadow techniques stacks that’s also unnecessary
swift tinsel
Not necessarily, if you want it to be proactive vs reactive to resets
You can know 99% of the time if you’re going to get a reset by tracking it
lofty saffron
Why doesn't the opener include evis for snd anymore? I see rupture then straight into sectech
haughty mural
hazy breach
Literally just skip the eviscerate and vanish
lilac stag
solemn creek
Literally just skip the eviscerate and vanish
Gotcha!
void ocean
Literally just skip the eviscerate and vanish
proceeds to just skip eviscerate and then vanishes
hazy breach
It also doesnt really matter
tribal blade
you want to hold vanish for other stuff in M+
civic forge
do higher keys ezpz
full pollen
Mobs dies too fast
play higher keys
hazy breach
Its just simpler to skip it, theres no difference really
full pollen
do higher keys ezpz
damn. i'm the turtle here
tribal blade
vanish is a very strong defensive button if used right
solemn creek
Meh. Not bothering more then 11 for now
civic forge
damn. i'm the turtle here
crystal bone
how do we get that backstab in during dance, just put backstab not on stealth bar?
civic forge
!bs
wicked joltBOT
Backstab/Shadow Dance Macro:yaml #Showtooltip Shadow Dance /cast [bonusbar:1] Backstab; Shadow DanceThis will cast Shadow Dance on first key press and Backstab on second key press.
random hare
You can know 99% of the time if you’re going to get a reset by tracking it
What reset
swift tinsel
What reset
shadowcraft
solemn creek
Its just simpler to skip it, theres no difference really
In sim.maybe but. On rik mythic i can see one. By skipping 1 gcd i will have my 3rd sec tech back for the 1st set of explosive instead of 1 gcd later
random hare
They are way easier than outlaw ace procs
It’s not even close
I guess that made it easy for me
hazy breach
In sim.maybe but. On rik mythic i can see one. By skipping 1 gcd i will have my...
Well you can also hold your flag+blades
And get the entire second dance of blades onto the barrels
civic forge
I guess that made it easy for me
outlaw players reacting to CPs is subconscious
solemn creek
Or what my fellow do
swift tinsel
Could be, if you're wired to react to ace procs which are 100% more difficult I could see it being way easier with shadowcraft
random hare
outlaw players reacting to CPs is subconscious
Yea I literally don’t know how shadowcraft works 
swift tinsel
lmao
if you have enough shadow tech stacks during symbols to grant a full cp bar your finishers will fill
civic forge
yeh i have it showing in my atrocity stuff but i never look at it
random hare
if you have enough shadow tech stacks during symbols to grant a full cp bar your...
Oh 
swift tinsel
so its actually very easy to know, unless you get a stack right as you finish that would put you over the threshold
crystal bone
house of cards today
swift tinsel
I made mine braindead and have circles around by cp's
if I see yellow, I get a reset next finisher
Its a lil qol thing
random hare
I made mine braindead and have circles around by cp's
Don’t tell me ur using traffic lights combo points like @cloud rover
swift tinsel
lmfao no
keen dome
traffic light combies?
civic forge
cursed
keen dome
I want tootie-fruitie combies
swift tinsel
they're just circles around my cps
random hare
traffic light combies?
Literally
swift tinsel
red = 1-7 stacks, yellow = 8-14
keen dome
owns
swift tinsel
gotta go with Scritch's cat cps
keen dome
Gonna make dancing murlco combies
solemn creek
they're just circles around my cps
Interesting. Did u made the trigger to appear only when symbol is active?
swift tinsel
swift tinsel
Interesting. Did u made the trigger to appear only when symbol is active?
nope, trigger is only shadow technique stacks
solemn creek
The question was if your condition to appear is symbol of death active = true. Or do u always see the circle from technique stacks
Sry if i didnt ask correcly
swift tinsel
Nope, the trigger is only shadow techniques so they show up whenever their corresponding stack exists
tame stone
how do you open if you have everything + coup de grace ready?
ss -> flag -> sd + rupture -> ss -> coup -> ss -> symbols+sb+secret?
tepid trellis
first off, dont dance + rupture, secondly you would sectech before coup in Flag+blades dances
tame stone
so the bonus 15% isnt worth the cd reduction?
remote shuttle
first off, dont dance + rupture, secondly you would sectech before coup in Flag+...
For cdr? Isn't more damage coup before st? For stacks of amp u get from coup?
tepid trellis
its to gurantee fitting 2x sectech in trinket+blades
wild vine
@tepid trellis coming from the simc sequence, it sends a dance with sectec at around 42-45s into the fight and a raw sectec at 1min02. with seaforium pacemaker, might it be worth to switch those around ?
unless I misunderstand the trinket, you would get a dance in the trinket proc
hazy breach
You can swap them around if you want
swift tinsel
I think Hacha was playing around with moving them and its fine
swift tinsel
Same but azerokk
rocky ocean
goblin juice
hollow spear
oof
swift tinsel
giga dopamine if it hits in opener
hazy breach
Generally trinkets are pissweak this expansion so its not really worth playing around them
swift tinsel
and I just pretend I don't have a 2nd trinket if it doesn't
hollow spear
Same but azerokk
you better got your prayers in order
swift tinsel
It happens enough that I look good in overall damage on the night in logs lol
hollow spear
Generally trinkets are pissweak this expansion so its not really worth playing a...
watch me delay cooldowns for Azerokk
swift tinsel
u won't
remote rapids
!fuu
wicked joltBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
tepid trellis
Generally trinkets are pissweak this expansion so its not really worth playing a...
also o7 to fixing it to sectech around pacemaker
tame stone
imagine having real trinkets 😢
swift tinsel
Can get pvp one if you don't have it yet
tame stone
im cp capped, missing 100
swift tinsel
dang
tame stone
did not realize its that strong first week
hazy breach
also o7 to fixing it to sectech around pacemaker
Its too janky i cant be bothered
tame stone
farming for house and priory meanwhile
pulsar gate
i typically find myself with 2 charges of SD and Symbols with like 10 s on Flag and SB
normal?
hazy breach
Everything hinges on something that then hinges on the initial thing in like a circle, and it kinda has to be that way
hollow spear
did not realize its that strong first week
it took people a while to get out of being transmitter stockholmed
hazy breach
Spec is just really cursed for simc flexibility
tame stone
alot of ppl still play transmitter and it still seems giga strong
hazy breach
Well
Theres no good new trinkets
So despite the 15% nerf transmitter still good, because house of cards is the only one thats decent
tame stone
yea, i wanna get zanzil at herotrack ngl
thorny rivet
Transmitter is the best trinket to exist.
swift tinsel
I still feel like I'm doing my opener wrong without completing a transmitter task
and its been almost a week lol
hollow spear
should call her
dim fog
I should call her
hazy breach
Transmitter is the best trinket to exist.
Numerically its still way weaker than most dragonflight trinkets 
keen dome
Gallywix and pugs do not mix, lmao. Why do so many people fall down the hole??
hexed sluice
I dropped my champ track transmitter after the last nerf and it dropped below 700 main stat difference to the pvp trinket
Best decision ever
swift tinsel
If this keeps up Midnight's trinkets will be baby stat sticks that costs stats instead of granting them
hexed sluice
A blessing on disguise for the hero track one never dropping
hollow spear
remote shuttle
Put him in ignore
hollow spear
500 more honor and I am done terrorizing innocent PvP players
keen dome
in the bin
remote shuttle
500 more honor and I am done terrorizing innocent PvP players
Hope u fight for the "right" side 🤣
cobalt monolith
Hi i search this item for my sub can you help me pls ?
hollow spear
do bountiful delves
cobalt monolith
only delves ?
hollow spear
yes
lilac stag
this season’s knife
cobalt monolith
i have drop the precedent quality off this item inside elite undermine boss
i can upgrade him to champion ?
wild hornet
Are there usually any myth track trinkets thatd beat heroic kezan/hoc
swift tinsel
mythic kezan/hoc
keen dome
@lilac stag You were correct about Heroic Gallywix, by the way
lilac stag
i can upgrade him to champion ?
Drop is champion. vault goes to heroic.
bountiful delve box
Or great vault
cloud rover
I accept the call
keen dome
Well, it's hard to farm but yeah it's a good passive option
paper iron
I dont tira
lilac stag
you should be doing delves for upgrades anyways
cloud rover
I dont tira
I have to
hollow spear
<@226395155098370049> You were correct about Heroic Gallywix, by the way
What about?
keen dome
It's brutally tuned for pugs haha
Mechanically simple but the actual damage / healing requirements is above the typical pug's capabilities atm
keen dome
Pugs are doing 2/5/10 or 2/6/14 haha
paper iron
Fyrrak was mostly mecanics nah?
keen dome
Yeah
paper iron
Tbf
keen dome
Early on you just stacked heals and he died
paper iron
I havent pugged since df s1
keen dome
Just assigning competent people for seeds in P3 and gg
paper iron
I only pugged kyveza
keen dome
I actually got him week 1, my only week 1 aotc so far.
alll the others are week 2
This will be the first boss since Sarkareth I do not get aotc on in the first two weeks and I don't really care haha
But 3% Heal/Damage on reset, and a huge iLevel spike for a lot of people should make it considerably easier
keen dome
Ye
shrewd shadow
Heads is rough in pugs too
paper iron
One armed is alrzady à wall
keen dome
Stix, Bandit and Mug'zee are the walls.
Lockensprocket if you don't know ~The Tech~
I think Mug'zee, this week, is one of the hardest pug damage checks I've seen.
simple inlet
is there a sound effect wa for when i'm about to get full cp after a finisher?
haughty mural
Lockensprocket if you don't know ~The Tech~
the tech ?
keen dome
So you know the Mines on heroic? Some groups assign 4 groups, etc
paper iron
is there a sound effect wa for when i'm about to get full cp after a finisher?
Try !wa
wicked joltBOT
keen dome
But you can do it with 3 people, which makes the fight a joke in pugs
jaunty umbra
shadowcraft one
paper iron
Wtf
In guild
We have 1 Guy doing the important bomb
Everyone else dump the others
haughty mural
But you can do it with 3 people, which makes the fight a joke in pugs
i think we ever done it with 3
keen dome
Paladin can do the first set: pop first bomb, bubble, pop second, then third. DH can do the second set. Hunter can do the third. Donezo
keen dome
i think we ever done it with 3
A lot of pugs will try to assign multiple groups, as did my first few tries.
haughty mural
didnt even know thats the tech
keen dome
But just having 3 people do it is so much better
keen dome
No, Lockensprocket heroic
sly shore
4th bomb can just expire if I recall
keen dome
Yep
haughty mural
ya
keen dome
I think Rogue can do it too but I don't care to test it 'cos I can make other people do it while I hit boss >:D
night sparrow
Hey what's the correct move when entering out of 1m30 dance+symbols full cp : Instant SecTec or Evisc > Backstab > SecTec
paper iron
Our warprot can even tank 2
sly shore
Hey what's the correct move when entering out of 1m30 dance+symbols full cp : In...
always sectech first in big cd's
night sparrow
Yeah but outside* of 1m30 big dmg widow ?
night sparrow
"dry" symbols+dance
sly shore
depends if you have coup or not
and if fazed is active
if you have coup and fazed is active, you coup
if you don't have coup and fazed is active you can evis first
paper iron
Wait until you find out how most pugs did Ovi'nax last season
HOW
sly shore
if you don't have fazed, you always sectech first
paper iron
yea
keen dome
What if you do that on heroic
keen dome
And make the fight grossly, needlessly more difficult
paper iron
night sparrow
if you don't have fazed, you always sectech first
Alright thx. Sounds kinda strange tho since you miss 2 danse macabre stacks for SecTec tho isnt it ? Not worth ?
sly shore
ignore danse
don't even track it
fazed is huge
and getting 5 stacks from coup especially
night sparrow
Oooh alright I see
sly shore
it's completely passive and has never even been worth tracking
hot oyster
Hey gamers, I'm trying to decide which piece I should craft for 675 and I could use your ideas. I already have two heroic fully upgraded pyrotechnic needle droppers so I shouldn't really waste a craft for 10 ilvl update right? Here's the current kit
fast sandal
yo, guys, question, is the 0.5% dmg of premeditation backstab during SD worth?
sly shore
Hey gamers, I'm trying to decide which piece I should craft for 675 and I could ...
weapon is going to be your highest increase
paper iron
yo, guys, question, is the 0.5% dmg of premeditation backstab during SD worth?
i ask you the question, is 0.5% more dmg worth for u?
sly shore
and I bet it's not even close
night sparrow
Pretty sure it's 0.5% dmg worth
keen dome
You might want to go do some simming to see for sure
paper iron
because to me +20 dps outlaw tech are worth, so 0.5% for sure is worth it
marsh magnet
how much difference in dmg from main hand wep to off hand wep? thinking on crafting a dagger to use both as outlaw and subtlety.
paper iron
how much difference in dmg from main hand wep to off hand wep? thinking on craft...
off hand is the worst slot ever, main hand is the best slot ever
hazy breach
Offhand weapon dps is irrelevant
fast sandal
i ask you the question, is 0.5% more dmg worth for u?
hmmmmmm
hazy breach
Mainhaind weapon dps is the most important thing on all of your gear
marsh magnet
ty all
sly shore
it's like 5x the dps of any other slot
if an item is 20k for x ilvl increase, weapon is 100k for the same ilvl increase
crazy stuff
night sparrow
I already have a 678 main weapon, do u guys think 675 dmg offhand is still worth ?
prob not I guess
fast sandal
I already have a 678 main weapon, do u guys think 675 dmg offhand is still worth...
naw
paper iron
hmmmmmm
cant answer for u if u wanna bother or nah backstab in dance, just know that s more dps. Here we only tell people what s the best, then if they wanna play tea and subterfuge with no sectech deathstalker and lose 45% dmg, that s their will
eleem, should i craft offhand weapon? I ve main hand crafted already
hollow plinth
not sure offhand is the 'worst slot' but rather just similar to any other slot that's not mh
hazy breach
It has less stats the other slots
hollow plinth
agility should be similar to like wrists no?
hazy breach
No its less
fast sandal
you can craft a belt, waist, cloak, they get more stats than the offhand
shrewd shadow
You can have three crafted items?
fast sandal
you can have all
shrewd shadow
Oh nvm I see you mean as options
fast sandal
but you cant have more than 2 emb
hollow snow
man im surprised class tuning hasn't been announced yet
paper iron
offhand only stat that matters is attack speed cuz of shadow techniques 
strange pond
/macro
steel horizon
you can craft a belt, waist, cloak, they get more stats than the offhand
cloak can be catalyzed
the tier version has vers/mas
fast sandal
cloak can be catalyzed
sure it can, but if you want one high ilvl already
you go and craft one
hazy breach
offhand only stat that matters is attack speed cuz of shadow techniques <:garf_s...
Non-daggers in offhand competing with lvl 10 daggers
strange pond
!macro
wicked joltBOT
Subtlety Macros:
It is not recommended to macro most cooldowns, including Cold Blood+Secret Techniques and Dance+Symbols.
The following macros are an exception:
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Thistle Tea```
```yaml
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Ancestral Call
/use House of Cards```
When using diffrent macros, make sure to keep the cooldowns on a seperate key.ayo add transmitter in there for the less fortunate
paper iron
Non-daggers in offhand competing with lvl 10 daggers <:garf_sit:1334889429449314...
i used to pvp with illidan glaive in off hand cuz it was good looking and we didnt care about what we were wearing there
shrewd shadow
hazy breach
Idk pvpers still end up using like a mace in their offhand because it has more mastery or some shit
keen dome
i used to pvp with illidan glaive in off hand cuz it was good looking and we did...
better times
steel horizon
ayo add transmitter in there for the less fortunate
you usually wanna pop transmitter during flag and not blades. that way you have time to complete the minigame before popping blades+sectec
paper iron
yea since sub is all about big burst of damage since we cant press cheapshot / ks without losing all our damage, we just wear stat sticks 
sht isnt really a thing in pvp so
grand galleon
is class tuning incoming?
paper iron
it s probably completely wrong, but at least it has a thinking process
paper iron
is class tuning incoming?
idk, i dont work at blizzard balance sector
steel horizon
is sub not the leading rogue spec in raid right now anyway? i hope people are not expecting buffs lol
hot oyster
wasn't assass the best overall in week one?
paper iron
it has advantages, assa not so far, and somehow outlaw is doing great also
vale pine
how much of a dps loss is macroing CB into sectec?
without the new 4p, roughly 0.3%, with the new 4p somewhere around 1%
paper iron
all 3 specs are kinda high middle pack i think, which is the best spot to be on, no nerf no buff needed
can easily become the top spec if they just nerf top specs 
distant night
is there any easy way to get a decent ilvl glove that i can throw into the catalyst? like from a vendor or something
steel horizon
is there any easy way to get a decent ilvl glove that i can throw into the catal...
delve maybe? its rng though
rocky wolf
i dont have house of cards yet so im worried about transmitter nerfs mainly but idk if thats gonna happen i think were the only spec who still "wants" transmitter
steel horizon
i dont have house of cards yet so im worried about transmitter nerfs mainly but ...
transmitter was already nerfed. i doubt they hit it again
chrome palm
is there any easy way to get a decent ilvl glove that i can throw into the catal...
You can buy a prized gladiator’s glove which is champion. Doing the weekly pvp quests and the first rbg/ebg/brawl of the day is enough conquest
paper iron
but can also just get them from pvp / m+ / craft
hollow spear
haughty mural
but why do you want to catalyst hands in the first place?
hollow spear
I think helmet and gloves are kinda similar, gloves are slightly worse
lilac stag
Which cant possibly be right, even with how much less uptime you get for autos
on the flip side their outlaw cooking turns out to be bis for pve as well once solo shows back up.
distant night
but why do you want to catalyst hands in the first place?
for 4p and my current gloves are still from last season
haughty mural
fair
distant night
so might aswell hit 2 birds with 1 sotne
paper iron
bye pvp feelsbadman
molten citrus
Idk pvpers still end up using like a mace in their offhand because it has more m...
i've been trying to fix this ok
blizzard even added vers/mast conquest dagger to vendor finally this season
that shit should be dead and gone
hazy breach
molten citrus
i fucking pray
molten citrus
its been so bad
to do mace OH even in pvp
for quite some time
ppl are just ???
keen dome
Haha
keen dome
twilit phoenix
using 3 pvp pieces in pve at the moment
molten citrus
no dinner for panda 
tranquil garden
speaking of pvp in pve, I've had shit luck finding a ring so far, what's the best ilvl you can get with a pvp ring? is it the champion-tier conquest one from the same place you get the trinket? or forged heraldry crafted one?
tranquil garden
that's still a lot better than I'm using and I can get it immediately with the crests I have, so I guess that's the conquest ring?
molten citrus
speaking of pvp in pve, I've had shit luck finding a ring so far, what's the bes...
yes its from the conquest vendor
ring is kinda easy to farm from + imo
tranquil garden
thanks. hard to find info about the pvp gear in pve
molten citrus
but 
lilac stag
ppl are just ???
Mace OH lets you swap from sub to outlaw eZ
tranquil garden
yeah I'll farm a heroic tier one
but +29 ilvls on my existing ring for free first sounds pretty helpful
pulsar gate
Guys question
hollow spear
almost at 34% vers with druid buff + flask
that almost sounds like you're addicted
pulsar gate
34% vers sounds amazing
hollow spear
I'd still find a way to die
pulsar gate
but i find mysled at 2 SD charges for like 10 seconds waiting for flag to come off CD
is this normal?
blissful tartan
How big is the dif between using Cold Blood on 1st vs 2nd Sec Tech?
pulsar gate
1% i think
i also dont know why we dont use sec tech later in dance from macab buff but i do what im told
blissful tartan
For supercharged combo points?
pulsar gate
oh maybe
im new so i dont have a full understanding
how do supercharged combo points even work
hazy breach
After you press symbols your next 2 finishers do more damage
lusty narwhal
and maybe it would be hard to fit 2 sectechs into the shadow blades + trinket window otherwise but not sure
pulsar gate
bc each consumes 1?
hazy breach
Yes
pulsar gate
i see
trail dawn
When you proc Coup the Grace you get 5 stcks of flawless form. By delying you benefit with the dmg build up
pulsar gate
do we ever not finish at 6+
native zodiac
is this normal?
If this happens it means you could have send 1 more dance between cds windows
pulsar gate
like coup de grace gives like 5 CP? unless i read it wrong
okay so can u sometimes send 2 SD between flags?
native zodiac
Yes
stiff kiln
i can't be sure what the correct estimate stat percentages of sub
native zodiac
interesting. how can i know if i can?
just gonna pay attention to the cd of dacne realy and experience
generally you just need to make sure you have 1 charge of SD and like 30 secs remaining on the 2nd charge
and it will be enough for the flag/blade window
pulsar gate
right
native zodiac
as you will generate the 30 secs of cdr with the first dance
pulsar gate
i also find that when i SD & Symbols
SD runs out and i have another charge but have like 3-4 seconds on symbols
wait for symbols to drop before sending sd right?
ember mural
!up
wicked joltBOT
native zodiac
wait for symbols to drop before sending sd right?
i assume this is a situation in a flag/blades window
pulsar gate
yes
native zodiac
otherwise you dont ever realy back to back dance
alright
you basically want to dance right after your first dance ends
and you symbol as you as secret tech comes up the 2nd time
to supercharge it
pulsar gate
so send SD when the first one ends even with 3s of symbols remaining?
so just build macab stacks waiting then?
hazy breach
Idk why you keep mentioning the remaining timer of symbols
During blades you dance immediately once your dance ends, has nothing to do with symbols
hazy breach
You symbols once sectech has 10 seconds or less left of its cooldown
pulsar gate
is this true in flag window or always
hazy breach
Always
night sparrow
Do you guys consider CB a 1m30 cd or do you press on CD and delay burst by like 2 sec MAX to make sure it will be back for second SecTec while bursting ?
hazy breach
Sectech should always be supercharged
dry belfry
He will loose uptime of symbol if he symbol + danse together
pulsar gate
so then sec tech will get the 2nd supercharged
right right
in between flag windows u can get a symbols sec tech only combo in right?
night sparrow
in between flag windows u can get a symbols sec tech only combo in right?
After first burst you usually do 2 dance+symbols then after 2nd burst you'll only have 1 dance+symbols available before 3rd burst if I'm correct
pulsar gate
and in between flags im lining up dance and symbols right?
mint swift
What does your heart tell you
My heart hasn’t said much since I hooked it up to that homemade pacemaker
keen dome
oh no
wicked urchin
GL gamers
steel horizon
no house of cards = riot
wicked urchin
save me from this transmitter i beg
quaint lodge
Got house of cards from timewalking, never deleted a trinket in my bags so fast in my life
Treacherous deleted !
placid elk
there is a way to get rid of transmitter but it involves rated pvp so pick your poison
wicked urchin
you only need conquest
doesn't need to be rated pvp
i'd still rather not for a dps loss too
hot oyster
I simmed pvp trinket, it's not good
placid elk
then jump 3 times collect orb stay in circle
hazy breach
I simmed pvp trinket, it's not good
Its fine, its just not better than transmitter
pulsar gate
whats more val a hero wep or hero 2 set
hot oyster
works slightly worse than some delve trinkets even
pulsar gate
this would gimme 4 set and hero wep is farmable
hazy breach
works slightly worse than some delve trinkets even
placid elk
whats more val a hero wep or hero 2 set
craft weapon 675, get set
vestal escarp
got pacemaker after only 31 runs
swift tinsel
Nice bis ring too
hazy breach
Mythic helm, good ring
warped ferry
Alright time to be disappointed.
hazy breach
Nothing to complain about really
wicked urchin
nope im still happy!
vestal escarp
comfy vault
paper helm
help
swift tinsel
terrible vault, reroll
vestal escarp
sim angle
oblique grove
its jjust that easy
night sparrow
Hey entering symbols+dance 0cp and coup up, do you backstab > evisc (coup) > SS > SecTec for flawless stacks ?
steel horizon
vault trolling me. gave me an eye of kezan when i just picked up a pacemaker like 2 days ago
hollow spear
stop simming your vault guys
paper helm
hollow spear
I am European and I am in queue
hollow spear
I do have premium
swift tinsel
Lol same
lusty narwhal
imagine not pre-simming every possible outcome of the vault the day before
lucid jackal
Hey entering symbols+dance 0cp and coup up, do you backstab > evisc (coup) > SS ...
Yep
swift tinsel
imagine not pre-simming every possible outcome of the vault the day before
I already know I'm getting 9 cloaks
we are not the same
wicked urchin
where my neck crafters at?
swift tinsel
if you're NA send in like 7 hours
vale pine
is it already vault time?
glass jasper
Do we get another catalyst this reset?
swift tinsel
Yar
vale pine
granite river
Is azerokk resonating heart sim bait ? sim want me to replace H transmitter with it, and cata for 4p
sudden bone
!wa
wicked joltBOT
graceful rock
.....
glass jasper
More vaults please NA people, I need to live through you
uneven finch
!fuu
wicked joltBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
slate lantern
More vaults please NA people, I need to live through you
big Fs in the chat... might take heroic tier hands just so i can get 4p even tho its our off piece
of course i get one of the worst myth tier m+ trinkets
twilit phoenix
swift tinsel
Bis belt, tier/cata legs, not bad
uneven finch
More vaults please NA people, I need to live through you
thinking of picking up the trink
(playing as sin)
uneven finch
i have 4p yeah
wicked urchin
Hmm
glass jasper
Having a wide arsenal of trinkets is always nice for multispeccing
hot oyster
don't look back then
glass jasper
We did it boys...pulled House of Cards from vault
Us cool kids did that already last week
hot oyster
last week i left only one single champion slot in my vault and that very slot was HoC
glass jasper
Jokes aside, big GZ
hot oyster
feelsbadman
limber relic
Us cool kids did that already last week
I got some sweet mythic gloves...much better feeling then last week lol
uneven finch
feelsbadman
oof that does feel bad
hazy breach
Imagine not taking a socket last week, couldnt be me
wicked urchin
fuck i can't decide between ring or helm
glass jasper
I will probably be punished for that this week, only crit/haste heads or something
swift tinsel
Imagine not taking a socket last week, couldnt be me
tradeoff for energy drink pull week one
hazy breach
Yepsk
limber relic
Scrambler didnt drop me a map
Did you loot one already in the week?
hot oyster
I just want a tier piece this week so i can finally let go of my old tier sets
pulsar gate
no
glass jasper
I will tell you the story of how unpunished my first week was. I was away alot so barely had time to play any m+. So didn't get a single +10 in, got compensated for that by getting HC HoC so didn't even feel bad about missing myth track loot
pulsar gate
first delve post reset
swift tinsel
I'm not even gonna open my vault until I finish raid thursday night and do my hero map delve
hot oyster
I will tell you the story of how unpunished my first week was. I was away alot s...
HoC is worth it all, i took mine champion said fuck the rest
glass jasper
Yea! So was even nicer to not really have any other good options i would feel bad about not taking 😄
rocky thorn
a moment to cry
glass jasper
Signet looks fine, if you dont have HoC
hot oyster
signet defo
swift tinsel
Tier helm, bis bracers
hazy breach
Prob just tank a useless vault and take signet for assa
wicked urchin
a moment to cry
oh god
hollow spear
take signet and hope for the inevitable 8% aura buff for sin
hot oyster
i feel like ass is gonna get buffed eventually
night sparrow
Hey when you'll have only 1 dance+symbols between 2 bursts, do you guys delay it till hitting Coup de grâce in the idea of doing symbols+dance > Evis (coup) > backstab > SecTec for maximazing danse macabre + flawless stacks for SecTec ?
hollow spear
we will get our inevitable 30% BP buff soon
limber knoll
what are you guys doing as your 2nd craft? I did dagger as my first
hot oyster
Hey when you'll have only 1 dance+symbols between 2 bursts, do you guys delay it...
mate i run around like a headless chicken when I don't have SD
hazy breach
what are you guys doing as your 2nd craft? I did dagger as my first
Boots, bracers, cloak, neck all solid options
wicked urchin
posted already but halp my tired monkey brain
hazy breach
Depends on what you got
wicked urchin
helm seems clear but i might never see ring again
swift tinsel
posted already but halp my tired monkey brain
we don't know what you have already
fallen crescent
Ring and helm kinda thicc
wicked urchin
hollow spear
how would we be able to help with that picture alone haha
spark plover
yes ring look like pretty rare. it depend if you want short or long term gear
wicked urchin
have heroic ring with speed
hot oyster
posted already but halp my tired monkey brain
think hands are vers too aside from ring and help
glass jasper
posted already but halp my tired monkey brain
Would take ring and never look back
daring agate
signet of the priory hero track and azerokk's Resonating Heart and sims still say use a s1 champion transmitter. wtf lol
hollow spear
not on myth track tho
valid ocean
oh god send help what do i do
wicked urchin
hazy breach
signet of the priory hero track and azerokk's Resonating Heart and sims still sa...
Ye priory stinks, if you want to get rid of transmitter you need either house of cards of pvp badge
hollow spear
signet of the priory hero track and azerokk's Resonating Heart and sims still sa...
how is that surprising?
stark belfry
hazy breach
The badge is slightly worse than transmitter usually in simc, but no minigame
daring agate
it's not surprising, it's annoying lol
haughty mural
not on myth track tho
has no agi tho
swift tinsel
hazy breach
2 minute trinket which you pretend is a 3 min trinket
wicked urchin
ima just rip helm
valid ocean
posted already but halp my tired monkey brain
agree this is helm
haughty mural
<:pepehands:757566347558387803>
you need 1000 for ?
glass jasper
ima just rip helm
You will regret not taking ring when oyu never see another ring whole season
hollow spear
has no agi tho
true, but the difference between agi and secondaries ain't even that big
glass jasper
More vaults!!
hot oyster
you get mine tomorrow
pulsar gate
im pissed my map didnt drop
glass jasper
Mine too, need vaults now
pulsar gate
do i open a ticket or just eat it
stark belfry
you need 1000 for ?
teh tism, no I thought trinket was 1000 but its only 700
haughty mural
its 700 ye
limber knoll
my vault is so bad, what even would you take
gonna craft the neck with embellish prob
hazy breach
Chest is fine
steel sierra
This vs Myth helm - even though gloves are a better upgrade, i'd imagine crafted gloves are probably just as good without worrying about M Mugzee
limber knoll
got mythic tier chest last week 😦
glass jasper
got mythic tier chest last week 😦
Socket then probably?
limber knoll
probably, just feelsbad cause no piece to put it on yet cause all heroic track
glass jasper
This vs Myth helm - even though gloves are a better upgrade, i'd imagine crafted...
Whats that addon where you see where items are from?
bright elk
finally got to get rid of my old tier set my god
novel plaza
myth track pacemaker or heroic house of cards?
steel sierra
Whats that addon where you see where items are from?
all the things
fallen crescent
myth track pacemaker or heroic house of cards?
Both
glass jasper
all the things
Ty
lucid jackal
My tier is over
twilit phoenix
myth track pacemaker or heroic house of cards?
i'd wait till raid to see if you can get HoC
steel sierra
Ty
it's a 10/10 addon you will fucking hate with a passion because it shows you everything you are missing
twilit phoenix
My tier is over
reverb radio poggers!!!!!!!!!
twilit phoenix
myth track pacemaker or heroic house of cards?
what's your on-use right now?
novel plaza
what's your on-use right now?
heroic transmitter lol
keen dome
Hah
hot oyster
my man drippin
twilit phoenix
heroic transmitter lol
your sim might say that seaforium is better, but I'd just take the HoC tbh
hot oyster
id listen to some shitty techno track with this gnome on the cover
wicked joltBOT
Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html
ember mural
!up
wicked joltBOT
round drum
gotta be the worst vault i've ever opened
round drum
same
fallen crescent
gotta be the worst vault i've ever opened
Rip
wispy jasper
What's the main reason for taking Shiv in the M+ build?
weary crag
gotta be the worst vault i've ever opened
might as well take the currency here
round drum
yeah :(
sweet sedge
fellas, are we not macroing shadowstrike into dance anymore? can i just switch it out w bs?
steep hemlock
which weakaura was u guys using for the combo point refunds
sweet sedge
which weakaura was u guys using for the combo point refunds
gun reload sound is bis
daring agate
gun reload sound is bis
i cant even hear the sound lol
iron whale
I have the coolest looking subtlety void elf rogue in the game, not gonna lie
pine stratus
so.... just swapped to sub from sin, do Sub also go for 2-2 pre-myth track?
sweet sedge
nah sub 4pc is good
valid marsh
!fuu
wicked joltBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
sweet sedge
but also sim it
swift tinsel
can always sim
ye
2pc2pc is a loss for some, gain for others
depends on your gear
pine stratus
ah ok, it's pretty black n white for sin, hence my question
daring agate
I have the coolest looking subtlety void elf rogue in the game, not gonna lie
idk man
weary crag
imo this tier 2 set is nearky useless wiyhout 4 set
swift tinsel
That's def where most of the power lies
and 4pc will typically be better than 2pc2pc unless your gear sucks
iron whale
idk man
I hate btw how they slowed down the stealth_walk animation of male blood/void elves btw
sacred warren
So sub want 4pc?
placid crown
raidbot gives this opener. Can we discuss about it ?
potent nimbus
in m+ are we still using black powder or just more st for nimble flurry?
hazy breach
in m+ are we still using black powder or just more st for nimble flurry?
7 or more target bp, else evis
potent nimbus
alright, ty
vale pine
raidbot gives this opener. Can we discuss about it ?
sure, what part ot it?
swift tinsel
raidbot gives this opener. Can we discuss about it ?
looks good to me
placid crown
it does not look like your guide on wowhead ^^
the 1st sectec does not profit of the blades ?
steel horizon
Sooo is LFR one armed bandit out this week? Lmao
swift tinsel
the 1st sectec does not profit of the blades ?
the first shadow hit is 1sec after cast
hazy breach
the 1st sectec does not profit of the blades ?
it doesnt matter if you blades before or after sectech
The majority of the damage of sectech comes 1s & 1.3s after you press the button
limber knoll
sims say craft boots, is that okay?
hazy breach
The initial hit does roughly the same damage as you would do with another global at the tail end of your cds anyway
placid crown
and if i cast sectec while i have a buff (like blades, flag, whatever..) but the buff fades just after the cast. The entire cast is buffed because it was casted while buff, or only the 1st hit (or 0 hit) will hit with buff ?
vale pine
it does not look like your guide on wowhead ^^
alright, i made the coparison
hazy breach
It does not snapshot, you need to have the buffs up when the clones hit
vale pine
pmuch all of it is the same, diffrence is poiton use
placid crown
alright, i made the coparison
at the 4th gcd it is trinket+blades+sectec while raidbot does only sectec, and does trinket+blades at the 5th gcd
ok ok ty for your answers
wicked lark
I highly recommend this video for all sub rogues.
fallen crescent
Does the sim take into account the pre sod we do?
placid crown
I prefer ask because i feel like we are always trying to get the 0.5% here, 0.5% there..
vale pine
Does the sim take into account the pre sod we do?
not unless you specifically add it
hazy breach
But it also doesnt matter much
fallen crescent
i was just curious. Ty
novel plaza
does myth track transmitter beat norm. HOC ?
fallen crescent
Hero transmitter was barely beaten by hero hoc in my case
round drum
is it a crime to craft a 675 neck vs the boots or wrists
round drum
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novel plaza
Hero transmitter was barely beaten by hero hoc in my case
thats crazy
keen dome
truth
steel horizon
LFR one armed bandit is out this week fyi lol
steel horizon
Yep. I will be running it in an attempt to free myself from transmitter. I only have a heroic transmitter so even a 645 HoC is a side grade for me
keen dome
I was expecting Vexie Mythic to be easy but lmao, two pulls in a pug and dead
paper iron
hmmm
i mean it s not a hard fight at all if everyone feel concerned by mecanics
soaking, oiling up, shooting bikes
but i can see pugs failing that
keen dome
Yeah
We just had the boss static on a point, drop oil near mid. And pewpew
Too bad my damage was beyond awful hahaha
lucid frost
!fuu
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paper iron
yea that s the best strat, if casters switch on bikes it s gg
i will take out the trash right now!
muted agate
strange chasm
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