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"someone got confused by some confusing wording, im gonna call them mentally disabled"
sick dude
relax, its just a GIF
relax, he's just depicting himself
- thats not a mentally disabled person, its a scene from a movie where people are dumb.
sorry rizzler
that might be the stupidest sentence said all day lmao
exatcly
Sure it is
fronteir so pressed for nothing lmao
you got pressed when someone was confused and asked a question, multiple times... then called them an idiot with a gif. its just so socially inept haha
relax with the wall of text, the joke wasnt even directed at you and you're mad about it lmao
oh ok youre definitely not an adult, its making more sense now
now theres a reason for you to be a bit mad
you can say whatever you like, i was just calling you out for some random ass insulting of others
its ok tho
keep the hate on me and not people asking genuine questions!
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oh shit new David and Fronteir beef just dropped
Are you insinuating that his differentiating mentally handicapped people and stupid people as wrong? Because I know some highly intelligent people with mental handicaps, and some really stupid mother fuckers with no such excuse in this discord. Plus it's a good movie.


Ignore fronteir he's kinda mentally challenged i think
average outlaw player tbh
Hi everyone, I don't know if this question has already been posted but do you have to craft the weapon in the first week or is it more interesting to loot the weapon in the raid?
There is no special dagger from the raid no

So unless you have a high ilvl dagger its likely your best option for a first craft
generally a sim angle, but it's best to wait until your first vault before crafting imo
Hey somnius fuck you
I want new beef now
theres absolutely no way to win somnius
check this gif out ffs
@alpine wraith what timezone are you on?
dung 
I mean I know it's not idea metric, but still thought it was decent to get an idea of M+ gearing
maybenot
same as for raid buddy
mastery vers
the higher keys u do the more value vers gets obviously
well then its just trinkets etc
and all the trinkets are stinky
if cata tw comes around again then matrix is kinda good for m+
u will have it up for mostly every 2 min cd
1:45 icd tho so can suck sometimes
2mins is also stinky
shut up fronteir
forgot sub is 1:30 now
spaced
matrix all good then
np to hold cds for 15 seconds usually
ehhhh not really, for a trinket that will be heroic capped
sub lives and dies on its cds so any holding is no bueno
u underestimate double trinket during cds
realistically u arent using cds on cd in m+
anyone else have some weird issue where you slam vanish during an opener and you don't get like...vanished? can't use shadowstrike, etc. been messing around on the target dummy cuz i noticed it a bit last night in raid too. seems to happen pretty frequently.
Yes but you still get the premed, so its not that bad
yup definitely some funk to it, ive definitely tested it where i definitely don't press/do anything after vanish and SS still gets eaten
im eu gmt+1
Nerf for subs on wowhead..
Not my secret technique 
nerfed icant
realistically at a competitive level @hazy breach
Nah guys what is this
is it joever ? is Dave dead ?
is it big?
Did we just get hit for heroic nerubar damage

What is this man
are they stupid?
thanks for all the help recently guys but now that sub is dead im going back to sin
ARE WE COOKED OR WAT (im jk)
we are fucked
Do you guys know that 1:30 is better than 2 in this raid still
This doesn't really change anything
Bro guy
Guy
Pls
its 2 stacks less
It’s completely uncalled for
we had 30 stacks on ptr
Theres no fucking reason
nice work bliz
Who is in charge of that shit and why do they hate sub so much 😂
The had to buff Mage without buffing Mage
nerfing the shitty spec already
because its too hard for casuals to play
Sub is still very strong
obviously theres a reason for the consistent push for assa
Close this channel sub is dead.
give me numbers
bro our tierset went from 20 stacks to 8
What do u mean give you numbers
like we lost probably like with tier 2%
1:30 is a better CD timer than 2 in this tier
Idk man nobody is saying it’s bad
5% sectech is big
It’s just completely unnecessary
Did you read what I typed?
yeah but doesnt matter if our dmg is pepega then^^
..?
M+ over performance in ptr likely culprit
This is what, maybe a 2% nerf? It doesnt matter how much more sin does if the timers are better for sub
what aerw teh most common sub rotation mistakes you guys see
Sub mid in m+
wanna see if theres some things im not catching
Playing this spec
opener
shut up fronteir
nice work blizzard once again
it wasnt mid it was very good
when should i send shadow blades during regular rotation>? after first dance?
like after i click dance for first time
only bad players make sub look mid atm
In keys?
Yeah sub is nuts
Sure
In raid as well
!guides
When did this turn into the boomkin discord
Incredibly nuts ye
not a single good sub player has done a key to show anything
only kush
and he did good
so
no its not
in the secret realm
It truly is what it is
We went from 30 stacks to 18 stacks
Is it sectech then blades, or blades then sechtech?
Doesnt matter
its over we dont use spells anymore we got nerfed
People watch casual and think it’s blasting
casual isnt a good sub player
hes new to the spec
thats like my #1 achivement
He’s better than everyone in all three discords
people love to cry when they get buffed or nerfed
Put together
now say cap
rogue is just nihilist they always expect nerfs
😛😛😛
they should nerf sub more, so the fotm guys go back to where they came from
because they know
Sub was good
Sub still is good
Nerfs suck but the specs timers are still better in the context of this raidn, than sin rogue
hi im in this photo and i dont like it
That hurt
lol shut up dumbass
How much % is the nerf sensei
also hey they had the first assa buff
now only need 2 or 3 more
so people can leave us alone again
The spec could get nerfed by like 10% and still be better than sin in the context of raid
lol fanboy
the best sub players dont even tryhard m+
and also we're not sin so thats still a yuge W
Class tuning
Seems like a minor nerf but its unclear if it was warranted, subtlety performed well because of a baseline buff.
It is a bit sad to see more damage taken out of our burst window, but it does not seem too bad.
Changes are roughly a 2.5% nerf
Ring nerfs:
Roaring War-Queen’s Citrine chance to trigger has been reduced slightly.
Legendary Skipper’s Citrine no longer triggers Roaring War-Queen’s Citrine effect.
Nerf means the ring is 0.6-0.9% behind mythic raid gear and should be dropped faster.
Simulations: Ring slot 1 | Ring slot 2
Transmitter nerf (last minute changes)
Treacherous Transmitter Treacherous Transmitter nerfed by 10%
The nerf is already on raidbots, and you can sim it by using the latest sim version.
There is a certain irony in the nerf, because tier set nerfs increased the value of the trinket and the nerf roughly puts it in a similar position than befor the tier set nerfs. It won't be bis in Mythic+ anymore.
Simultations:
> Trinket Comparison - Single Target <
> Trinket Comparison - Dungeon Slice <
who are they? name em
why tryhard m+ when you can play osu!
Idk i cant be arsed to find the spelldata stuff for overrides. Probably 2.5% or something
RIP pxb ong
yea around 3% at most
how much %
not gonna be toxic more than i have been already
my guild is gonna kick me now
3%
Casual da homie
Lashga
what a trash fucking spec
GUYS IM DOOMING
because we kinda dodge eye of kezan nerf
Lashga the goated sub player RIP
thats fair, but the rank 1 is you so
just play thug
Get ready to learn outlaw buddy
dont worry they will buff assa 2 more times
I knew it
then we will have the "execute is very important"
he still plays wow?
Where's lashgas read on the nerf, i only listen to him
he is in a farm now
you
(idk if u m+)
dont even know if he is alive, havent seen him online in ages
status
i have him last online 2 months
sub z tier confirmed
sad. last i heard he quit rogue for surv but idk :c
Wdym surely sub topping meters by far in nerubar and having one of the best tier sets doesnt mean that it would be good in undermine 
and good fight timers for a tier
Need to know how much % this is a nerf so I can do the % of nerf +100%
damn hope hes ok
The more I Play wow the more I realize nobody knows how this game works
sub will still be fine for raid
I was just kicked out of my guild and got replaced with an Assa rogue. Thx Mr. Blizzard
swedish raichu sandbagging 
first time?
yea man too late
What game I just look at details
secret technique is like 20% of our damage, nerfing it by 5% means ~1% nerf overall.
Nerfing the set further lowers it, so probably 2-3% dps nerf. We will see once we have the stack changes in simc.
oh man, those nerfs. now I'm never gonna get world first 
fuck you
league arc?
so roughly ~3%
fml
ty for info
nah time to become a guitar player again
calm down bud..
let me insult people in peace
there is no "we" here
Outlaw has always cooldowns
big crits get weaker and weaker by the day
No
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Yes sry
Stay mad pussy
How do mythic ids work tho 

spontaneous podcast to talk about nerfs @lucid jackal
Stop writing an essay david
get dratnos involved
mythic ID has not changed

hiii eleeem u look cute today :3
Its more emergency podcast
you still need to prog with the same people
When’s dratnos gonna let that starbucks barista out of his basement
I think we need to call in to Ion
not as good as your "hold my nuts" one 6/10 rating
when the tier lists are finally exhausted
oh truee we have to make another tier list
Hold my nuts is an all timer
ong
Idk i heard your takes were more cooked than a mcdonalds egg
its joever 💀
Can’t u shift the “5%” nerf to another ability by changing 1 global and get an extra dance Mac stack before sending??
to have everyone go yea man
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forever on my dick
LMAOP
WHAT
It’s 1 global lol
HAHAHAHAHHA
that was a cool one but no you want to sec tech first still
because it gives buffs and procs
I think they should nerf backstab instead of anything else
I have crafted good cope
tbh yea nerf goremaw
Nah i have a headache and this is sure as hell not helping 💀
it is too strong
Holy blow up in here lmao
i got a 5m crit
imagine the power contained in it
Its so cooked they never touched that spell in ages
they broke it in beta
like actually
and then forgot about it
if they bitch ask them to hold your nuts. 0 counterplay I heard
this spec is a very bad joke
no energy THO
Nerf goremaw’s bite instead!!!!

thats massive
More mad bout way of nerf
so massive
they want to chain us no big crits allowed

hey can you start your stream and spend the entirety of it insultin blizzard?
backstab damage?
nah evis does more dmg
please stop talking foreverguy
but just because you spam it a lot
go back to your fucking cave
!mute @young mural 1h hold my nuts
You can nerf the spec by roughly 3% without touching secret tech
also they must buff please again Black Powder
Cant talk me you can’t
well they buffed baseline a bit too much maybe
what was bro even mad abt?
anger management problems
yes.
Nice spell we should buff that
now he can take a breather and watch asmongold suck at monster hunter

he's been annoying for days

Yeah exactly he can fuck off
Nah hes just based 
Can I stop learning Subtlety now and go back to Assassination?
no
wait for 2 more assa buffs
no
Who is the guy I mean that David?
they will come
You know him?
no, im gonna put you in a straight jacket and force you to watch sub gameplay for the 24 hours straight
yes its over. Go back to cata classic and get legendary daggers
but how big are the nerfs? not like number wise, but is it impactful in any way?
2 ish %
Wait for simc
20%
can u do it to me and call it a date? :3
its over
Babylonius the goat
-_-
I kneel
DONT GIVE ME NUMBA
Go press jade lightning man
no it wont matter
It 100% impacted sectec
Its over
It totally isn't going to be a sin tier the entire tier, until last two 
yeah then its really over
nerfs barely just tuned down sectech numbers our profile is still amazing
well it depends even if sub is good remember people just wont play it
Pretty huge. Got kicked from my guild 5 minutes ago and they invited an pirate rogue instead
we will still do fine
sub garbage tier confirmed. pack up your bags, we're going firemage
The profiler from the FBI said we are now more sin rogues
cause Sin got buffed 40%
my family just shunned me, after reading patch notes
sub nerfed 20%
is it even worth talenting secret tech anymore? @hazy breach
my guild revoked my trial because of the sub nerfs guys what do i do
yeah see Blizzard ist out to get you. Screw all that fancy intigration policies or social contracts. They are out to get us
gloomblade too
last two bosses for sure aren't going to have important execute phases right?!
gna spam it
(meme)
yes its over

saved for later
Finally coldblood works with evis that was the plan all along
it was bugged last time i tried it. nt nerd.
actually it might on second coup in second dance
Imagine not cb’ing shuriken toss 

they bugfixed coldblood so we spec out of sectech
but i dont think it would change much
cb shiv for extra de-enrage
Follow up question. Is the nerf big enough I can go back to playing WW even though we don’t have a rogue in raid?
Im confused, where was the ks buff
do you have a warrior?
it changes everything my details showing now shaman again topping.
why does it always seem like they change something before a content patch, see that it overperforms in this 1 week no one cares and then overcompensate on this
with subtlety being so cd heavy, how do i deal with multiple packs after i'd used my cooldowns in M+?
Rogue buff overrated Kush and Exile already deleting all rogue chars from splits and just playing dh
i miss 2 months ago
Because they are fucking lost
u dont
u relax and enjoy
I forgot to update details since legion might be also the reason
well you will have symbols and shadowdance up.
u can tell ur grp u solo packs on ur cds
It’s ok dh got hit too
not enough
this is sadge tho
she could smack me with that ong
execute was hitting like my mother
Mortal Strike does most of the execute dam these days so that nerf is w/e
arms is still omega strong
as arms execute did quite decent
well it is kinda the same as our sec tech nerf
a lot of our dmg is evis
but sec tech is also big number
im a bit sad they hit that big number tho
dh nerfed 5000% too now bottom dps

brown hair sabrina carpenter is next level
i saw
didnt realize this was the goon channel
the car photo
freaks
goon trinket let's go
dude her as brunette? like my god
You need to update details also. Then DH topping again
watch out or ill starting gooning to you bud
I feel this 🫡
straight as an arrow sorry
doesent stop me
did u see secret tech got nerfed
spaghettis straight too until it gets wet bud
ask scana
nah i ignored it
I'M GOONING LIVE IN SUB CHANNEL
damn when did sub turn into sabrina carpenter channel
no meme DH got 2% nerf and sub 3% nerf and warrior is like 1-3% nerf depending on bossfightlength
We are Not gooning, we are cooping this Tier 
i should have gotten pinged for that long ago
here have a cat pacifier
WHAT THE HELL
sir
that is illegal
nah let him cook
Low T clowns
hes onto something
Armin knows what’s good
no wonder u guys do 0 dmg
I’ll do a lot of dam having that on my second monitor
too busy beatin it to baddies
He gave us fuel
they're too busy gooning 
G Fuel ye
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Bro
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We need to ban sims
I'm crying
With that picture on my 2nd screen they can nerf Secret Technique another 60% and I will still top DPS meters
why did they have to buff BM 😦
nah we are ass tier
like ass rogue
Sim is everything
Outlaw Tier 

craft weapon first week and have some fun
yeah confirmed
enjoy when every1 else gets gear
the sims said so
Deal
seconded
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link that i need bait
ok now be serious why would you say when two fights have insane execute phases (3rd and 2nd last and maybe even endboss who knows) that sub is so good in raid?
I have no idea what you're asking
The game is more complicated than "what sims the highest"
asking to say why you think sub is so good
Nobody good at the game evaluates the game in this way
I've said like 5 times
Huh he literally asked about the execute phases being important
always outlaw tier
Timers are more important than sim DPS
where did you get that details
yes 100% confirmed
So why not sin > sub
is it liquid raid
you just dont know it yet
Like the timer on my egg or wdym? Like be serious
no raid has 3 rogues, immediately proven fake
Ks buff Inc dw
we have just 2 good rogues and I am the 3rd
nah liquid has worse dps
the gambling raid has to be an OL raid. I don't understand how Blizz doesn't get that.
meanwhile bm hunter!!!!!!!!
thats perfect play dps
If a fight spawns an add, at 1:30, 3:00, and 4:30 into a fight, which spec would be better on the fight, sin that sims 2.5k or sub that sims 2.3k
(echo) (eu)
guys BM hunter is stronger!
lmao
Any other spec that always does more damage or the same when we have cds. Also warrior does that way better has also 90 sec cds same goes for udk etc.
always a sub tier
first boss is on a 1min30 phase
guiys
very suspicious
blizz is funny and some things double buff you+pet
First boss 
he asked assa or sub
welcome to the spaget factory
devil will cry when he sees this fucking chat
DMC 6 inc
You forgot the questionmark
what are these perfect 90s burst window timings people are talking about? which bosses exactly?
DWC 6
there is no dev, dw
every boss if u ask guy
he said it on his recent podcast
we can move cds around a bit for 2 min things
Counterquestion, if there’s important fights where execute actually really matters for once, do 1.5mins save you 
no outlaw sims top and then its best
just crit harder earlier
If execute is good, then yes sin gets better
ez
Notice how I can just answer a question
Clearly assa as sub would be a filthy padder sending cds on adds
cool last 3 2 are confirmed to have execute as the most important phase
Smh my head guy
isnt guy's podcast just his twitter at 4am before heroic raid week rage posting about assa and sub
rip in pepperonis
so sad
outlaw tier zac was right
time to eat some energy drinks can included
was fun for 3 min
get some aluminum in the body
Okay but that was his initial question
sounds like poe
thanks
If execute is important sin gains value yes
And then yoh made him look bad for not understanding your answer 
R u a fan or something?
poe is kinda chill right? unless you play slam char
i just plau flicker and hold 1 button
y its a ele, balance mage meta, lets nerf sub rogue, they had it too good anyway
other melees are a bit more op
wait i tought guy was canceled
Why did they nerf sectech by 5% baseline? Why not just nerf our old 2P to 15%?
Sorry that I don’t agree with guy 
Foreverguy seems like hes liked in this discord
any doomers in the chat?
yea man just nerf tier set to 4 stacks but keep sec tech strong ez fix
that way we can just equip other gear instead of tier
What am I saying thats even to disagree about
this chat is popping off today
bit D
Asks about execute -> gets stupid answer that doesn’t relate to execute -> ur a fan 
the best rogue is @slow talon "the whole greek rogue community is in anger".
You guys need to treat ur greek rogues better
personally i like Foreverguy, top tier lad and very funny
yea it is funny
Do you have a reading comprehension issue
yea guy is blasting
I asked him to clarify what he said
No I don’t
look at him go
Because it didn't make sense
can yall just stop riding eachother and kiss
reroll time
Look at queen for example, execute damage was important, but guess what spec you played? Sub rogue to deal with silken tombs and platform 1 damage. It's not like sub did bad P3 damage either
So Zac Confirmed and Liquid confirmed. So must be Havoc tier then

are you a fan or what
wanna 1v1 ?
orgrimmar
!flawless

im playing outlaw
!wa
you are playing sub
yeah but naked. Like a true orc 😄
i win
Listen. I’m fucking GAPPING people. A lot of us are. If we get nerfed and are doing the same damage as meta dps that’s not a bad thing. Yea sure it was fun while it lasted l, but let’s be honest when one class is substantially stronger then everyone else it’s obnoxious. Shit bags think they are better then they are, everyone rerolls, nobody think you earned anything. If you were good before you will be good now. If you were shit before and good now you will be shit again. The cream rises to the top and I’m making fucking cappuccinos. Let’s blast

Listen. I’m fucking GAPPING people. A lot of us are. If we get nerfed and are doing the same damage as meta dps that’s not a bad thing. Yea sure it was fun while it lasted l, but let’s be honest when one class is substantially stronger then everyone else it’s obnoxious. Shit bags think they are better then they are, everyone rerolls, nobody think you earned anything. If you were good before you will be good now. If you were shit before and good now you will be shit again. The cream rises to the top and I’m making fucking cappuccinos. Let’s blast
Listen. I’m fucking GAPPING people. A lot of us are. If we get nerfed and are doing the same damage as meta dps that’s not a bad thing. Yea sure it was fun while it lasted l, but let’s be honest when one class is substantially stronger then everyone else it’s obnoxious. Shit bags think they are better then they are, everyone rerolls, nobody think you earned anything. If you were good before you will be good now. If you were shit before and good now you will be shit again. The cream rises to the top and I’m making fucking cappuccinos. Let’s blast
Anyone got flawless form WA?
Listen. I’m fucking GAPPING people. A lot of us are. If we get nerfed and are doing the same damage as meta dps that’s not a bad thing. Yea sure it was fun while it lasted l, but let’s be honest when one class is substantially stronger then everyone else it’s obnoxious. Shit bags think they are better then they are, everyone rerolls, nobody think you earned anything. If you were good before you will be good now. If you were shit before and good now you will be shit again. The cream rises to the top and I’m making fucking cappuccinos. Let’s blast
wait is that a pasta
it is now
yeah sub was bad just got carried by better simming classes
Who knows
i think it might be
it looks serious
if not it is now
Listen. I’m fucking GAPPING people. A lot of us are. If we get nerfed and are doing the same damage as meta dps that’s not a bad thing. Yea sure it was fun while it lasted l, but let’s be honest when one class is substantially stronger then everyone else it’s obnoxious. Shit bags think they are better then they are, everyone rerolls, nobody think you earned anything. If you were good before you will be good now. If you were shit before and good now you will be shit again. The cream rises to the top and I’m making fucking cappuccinos. Let’s blast
we have 4 bosses that phase at % hp
cappuccino sounds good right now
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
Pretty sure these sub nerfs are nothing
guys dont make fun of the guy
archnemesis poe
lol BM gets a flat fucking 10% buff and we catch 2 nerfs
launch
fuck off blizz
bro when i saw you doing webs on court
best meme
i had some issues
ok but catch these hands
my maaaan
sometimes u just give up
I read it and got what he meant the first time which is why I was mocking you for mocking him, I didn’t even disagree with you on sub being/good bad all I said is it’s uncalled for
let the man HIT SOME BUTTONS
Lfg protest ?
tier nerf bro
um actually it's a 8% buff sweaty
lol i'd wash you
i mean we got a 18% baseline buff
I'm not mocking him I'm asking him to clarify
pull up
my dad will beat up ur dad
is it time to finally beat people up and not go to jail?
Sub chat is so feisty tn

actually i wonder is there anywhere where duels are still legal
Ban zac
haha
!ban subtlety too much yapping you all going to jail
Why is sub in your opinion for this tier so good? please explain
nah we didnt even get a slow mode
this is nothing
this chat is good content during the nothing to do prep week
also DH
Ping me again and you're getting muted next
The cream rises to the top and I’m making fucking cappuccinos
rogue.
I've told you 8 times why I think it

All I’m saying is I’m not going on any spree against you just because you are who you are or w/e I agree on most things

damn ur feisty


you listed me some numbers and cooldowns
bro this chat is hard chillin no cap
Exile 
calm before the storm
I just specifically answered to his execute thing because that one was true
The rest he’s mostly yapping

they should come to outlaws side of the courter sometimes
if you didnt farm out the bis parts for your hot rod what are you doing 
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Imagine getting a flat 10% baseline buff and pumper buffs to Trickster, the hero talent you should be going anyway- then reeeeeee'ing when a 5% nerf to secret techique comes out
man i love pilav
unhinged <(**<) sub good doe?
I mean yeah, both sub and sin are extremely close, realistically speaking. If rogue needs to carry a set of adds like it does on silken court, then yeah you play sub. If you just need EXCLUSIVELY p3 hard carry damage, then yeah you play sin
a sub nerf is an outlaw buff
wait until people come here tomorrow is sub still best?

I think many of the fights, a 1:30 timer is better than a 2 timer
Nah I’ll play sub anyways
I could be wrong, it could be the case that raw execute damage is more important
See now your saying sub is bad
😄
esp when u get to farm and bosses die in under 2 min 😄
For that you first of all need gear and since 99% of the raid wants the same trinkets gonna be some time
Man I really wish raw kisses were important and not raw damage
Just get in vault
they are decent for us

but bad for others
Listen. I’m fucking GAPPING people. A lot of us are. If we get nerfed and are doing the same damage as meta dps that’s not a bad thing. Yea sure it was fun while it lasted l, but let’s be honest when one class is substantially stronger then everyone else it’s obnoxious. Shit bags think they are better then they are, everyone rerolls, nobody think you earned anything. If you were good before you will be good now. If you were shit before and good now you will be shit again. The cream rises to the top and I’m making fucking cappuccinos. Let’s blast
liekly what i will get stuck with
Listen. I’m fucking GAPPING people. A lot of us are. If we get nerfed and are doing the same damage as meta dps that’s not a bad thing. Yea sure it was fun while it lasted l, but let’s be honest when one class is substantially stronger then everyone else it’s obnoxious. Shit bags think they are better then they are, everyone rerolls, nobody think you earned anything. If you were good before you will be good now. If you were shit before and good now you will be shit again. The cream rises to the top and I’m making fucking cappuccinos. Let’s blast
unless i manage to get some good delve loot
wtf you cannot repost your own pasta
I used to rawdog a sectech now its not worth it anymore fuu and eleem said to spec out of it
thats not allowed
insufferably referencing sim comparisons as if they were the Bible is getting kinda weird
sub is too fun
do something
Listen. I’m fucking GAPPING people. A lot of us are. If we get nerfed and are doing the same damage as meta dps that’s not a bad thing. Yea sure it was fun while it lasted l, but let’s be honest when one class is substantially stronger then everyone else it’s obnoxious. Shit bags think they are better then they are, everyone rerolls, nobody think you earned anything. If you were good before you will be good now. If you were shit before and good now you will be shit again. The cream rises to the top and I’m making fucking cappuccinos. Let’s blast
I will say tho I miss guy twitter rants so if you could doom a bit more that would be a appreciated
I thought sectech was bae, turns out it's just fam 
just think the nerf was knee jerkish
Listen. I’m fucking GAPPING people. A lot of us are. If we get nerfed and are doing the same damage as meta dps that’s not a bad thing. Yea sure it was fun while it lasted l, but let’s be honest when one class is substantially stronger then everyone else it’s obnoxious. Shit bags think they are better then they are, everyone rerolls, nobody think you earned anything. If you were good before you will be good now. If you were shit before and good now you will be shit again. The cream rises to the top and I’m making fucking cappuccinos. Let’s blast
!ban mikael 24hours
banana
Listen. I’m fucking GAPPING people. A lot of us are. If we get nerfed and are doing the same damage as meta dps that’s not a bad thing. Yea sure it was fun while it lasted l, but let’s be honest when one class is substantially stronger then everyone else it’s obnoxious. Shit bags think they are better then they are, everyone rerolls, nobody think you earned anything. If you were good before you will be good now. If you were shit before and good now you will be shit again. The cream rises to the top and I’m making fucking cappuccinos. Let’s blast
Rogue got no changes and rogue is fun, so I don't have a lot to complain about this tier sorry /shrug
Cappuccino uses milk froth, not cream. Jesus guys come on
enough with the shit posting, go do it somewhere else
I really enjoy rogue atm. Probably the most fun I've had with the class since like, legion
A shame you enjoy sub for once
sub rn is kinda cool
Guys, I don't want to see you flaming. At least you get blue posts, meanwhile outlaw....
I've enjoyed sub a lot tbh
even if blizz hates big numbers
I just didn't like it much because of dust

Dust removed, fun spec, shrimple as
Sub does play good
this chat is nothing but horny freaks and shit posting
in sepulcur it was kinda boring
🦐
my craving is going to get fixed
Agree with guy. It s just about Tuning really but gameplay is great
U must be in a good spot 
Like if we had to play deathstalker I would complain at least a bit
But man, we get to play trickster sub on prog????
i got kicked from my guild XD
How big/small is the sub nerf?
dust was fun on smold and annoying on everything else
why you do no damage!
Check the pin
Skill issue
All I remember from sepulcher is Jpc getting shafted by loot rng
The rest I have wiped
all rogues were shafted
I don’t want to think about it
This Was à dark time tho

no shadow sets were gotten
then sat for more warriors on sylv
unluck
dmg was fine if we had gear
daggers were so good
nothing wrong with assa but its just a sleeper
Ty shits hidden on phone lol
zzzzzzzzz
oh yea np and yes finding pins on mobile is annoying
deathstalker sin is chill
Thats the talent we spec instead of sectech now?
I mean I cant really complain about rogue overall
Other than I wish we got more attention but honestly
Because of the nerf?
if it aint broke dont fix it
i just play rogue cuz its the only class i have fun with
idc if its ass or good
still a raidspot
If you take gloomblade over sectech you are an absolute 🤡
I dunno bout OL, but it’s been very yellow in other channels so I guess it’s not great, but sub/sin both are well of id agree
We bring the yap
DS wouldn’t even be bad to play as sub if they didn’t fuck up marks that were working perfectly on release
Same issues as its always had, but now trickster is like, just better 
I actually liked DS on release in raid
To play outlaw you have to have severe ADHD. They just yap more
severe braindamage
Rude
nah back in sepulcher
They saw the nerf in tww coming and kicked you just to be safe
would be funny
the whole conditional of mark on assa is way more of a pain point
wdym
The sectec topic distracted us from the more important one.. how come they didnt nerf circlet yet
Saving up the banger
or transmitter
In raid does that happen?
likely if you miss getting DN on phase changes
never happened to me
I like the actual gameplay of deathmark for sin tho
or having to move the mark between bosses
I‘ve never had it happen ever
I do wish it wasn't only tied to vanish
Yeah DS Sin on Silken Court is probs misery
how did ret paladins dodge the nerf
I missed some marks on early silken prog
That ye
But I’ve never had it just not reapply

Guys they are nerfing transmitter too
I heard it
20%
they we are down to prot warrior dps
is 626 transmitter still better than most trinkets on s2
thats the only one i have bruh
S2 trinkets in general 
Get ready to sell it to your fav vendor
Sub cant be strong you saw it today. Our Tierset is still bugged but lets just nerf it from 30 stacks down to 18
oh sorry 16
it went from 10 to 8
In the span of the last 3 weeks it went from 15 stacks down to 8
so nearly gutted the tierset in half
why are you losing your shit from 2-3% nerf
bros dooming just to doom
on ptr it was 10 stacks but the damage amp was 30% and now it was 20% and now its even down to 16%
yes your right

stop typing mapko, thanks
Even if it did, it’s on ptr so it never got shipped it’s meaningless 
they just nerfed the stack number of 2p
bro -.-
lmao
but not by a lot
just 2%
did u see this
so many crack smokers in this fucking discord
he meant the last nerf hacha, not today's
yea it is what is not learning to read
you can tell if a class/spec is considered to be or become "meta" by the amount of brainrot in the associated discord
always
unluck
the same
in which direction
didnt go up
are we meta or nah then
Guys did you see this?
what is meta? Metaquest? Virtual world?
I‘d agree but also you gave us a wall of goon so idk what to think anymore 
that was a good day

I like the 20%
I remember when they didn't implement them too that was funy
fuckin gutted
they implemented but then rolled them back
Finally ForeverGuy posting stuff that explains why sub is strong
do we have any info on the catalyst non set item stats ?
yea you can check wowhead
True not changing dust even tho announcing it and deleting it a patch later was an all timer
im a goon squad member not a crackhead
I mean deleting dust was an NBA Slam dunk and I’ll die on that hill don’t get me wrong 
yeah mean goon squad is our trinket. We have already one eye dont need two
the dev that removed it didnt even know what cooldownreduction dust actually had so I mean 😄
tbh we cried more when we lost prep
What
made diff
so do we panic?





