assassination

[balmy condor]

You’re in the right place

[marble hemlock]

aight

[ember mural]

this is the safe space from hataro

[marble hemlock]

and guy

[bleak sky]

No he was in here yesterday

[balmy condor]

He opened a thread here earlier, beginning of the end

[marble hemlock]

yeah i saw

[gusty mirage]

I blame you, you broke the barrier between outlaw and sin

[bleak sky]

https://c.tenor.com/qUdBKJFbXzEAAAAM/thanos-avengers-infinity-war.gif

[timid cloud]

HORNY?

[verbal mantle]

[ebon notch]

uh

i got given more loot

[spice spire]

HUH

[bleak sky]

Bruh

[echo geyser]

what more can u even get

285 jailer trinket?

[ebon notch]

jailer belt

[echo geyser]

no shot

actual 282 equipped now?

[ebon notch]

281.93

idk ive never been so geared in my life

[hybrid vale]

Is this whysper approved

[gusty mirage]

Does it matter?

[hybrid vale]

Aren’t they like a mod

[gusty mirage]

He has the power to remove my CF status

if he disagrees he can do that

[hybrid vale]

I don’t see mod on u bro

[gusty mirage]

why does it matter if one person approves or not

[ebon notch]

bro

no typing

shh

[bleak sky]

That's a disgusting amount of gear. Second 285 daggie and donezo I guess

[hybrid vale]

Cause it came outta no where lol

[ebon notch]

2nd one is 0.1% upgrade btw

i trade cev before i get 2nd one

[bleak sky]

Didn't come out of nowhere, some oranges have been annoyed by this

[stuck knoll]

you want a ban

[limber lion]

Talking about random stuff is fine, trolling people who are genuinely asking for help is not. Good shit @gusty mirage

[stuck knoll]

cuz it's me approved

[echo geyser]

0.1% upgrade for OH

[spice spire]

It’s worth the keep, trust me bro, he’ll blast.

[hybrid vale]

Just don’t remove reactions plz, most discords do when they start going in this direction

[shrewd night]

Ill double down on it.

[echo geyser]

bag ilvl is massive

@ebon notch whats up with this flashbang

im tryna watch some sin gaming

[bleak sky]

Hdr monitor fucking up discord

[ebon notch]

yeah

that

[limber lion]

On another note, I'm now officially a 11/11M gamer as well

FOTM looting legit the entire raid

[bleak sky]

YUGE

[echo geyser]

[ruby grotto]

congrats!

[spice spire]

It’s not a direction, we just want this to be a spec channel that helps others when we can.
And minimizing some of the nonsense is a necessary end

[limber lion]

Daps got 285 shoulders and the jailer belt

[echo geyser]

wtf

[spice spire]

#off-topic is always open though

[echo geyser]

2 items 1 raid?

[spice spire]

Bro

What

@ebon notch you gotta be stopped

[bleak sky]

Daps is built diff on the loot table

[echo geyser]

and a week or 2 ago he got 285 dagger and 285 fist same raid? or box

[ruby grotto]

is the scars of fraternal strife trinket useful for rogues? more so than animacharged battery / phial?

[bleak sky]

Unsure, gotta sim it

Phial is likely better than all if I had to guess

[spice spire]

I don’t think so on phial anyway.

But battery is a toss up

[ruby grotto]

will do, just thought there was some kind of consensus already, ty :)

[glass tulip]

we <3 our shadowblades

and oxi

[spice spire]

Wow, okay dude

[glass tulip]

oh and george

[gusty mirage]

good call

george's owner kinda sus

[glass tulip]

rogue is being transferred, final location not yet determined, New raid team inc

[gusty mirage]

[glass tulip]

about to teach a new team about the power of assassination

[echo geyser]

have u seen this @spice spire

mans got a clickable PI WA

he can click and choose

who gives him PI

[gusty mirage]

[glass tulip]

[spice spire]

What even

[ebon notch]

its built into ERT

you know how you can track raid cds?

you can turn it into a button

and you can request any external

[echo geyser]

[bleak sky]

Where are you raiding now

[ebon notch]

e.g. innervate

[echo geyser]

i guess u can do it for all of those then

[glass tulip]

nowhere yet

[echo geyser]

KA blessings

banner

mage thingy

[ruby grotto]

meh, scars sims -33 compared to phial + battery

[timid cloud]

Battery seems a bit sussy.

But I guess it depends on the item level of the trinkets as well I guess.

[ruby grotto]

yeah, rolled the battery in vault for 278 so a bit lucky

[balmy condor]

Battery

[ruby grotto]

i guess

i technically have a flayedwing toxin too if i wouldnt want to care about on use trinkets

[gusty mirage]

oh throw that one in the trash

[timid cloud]

Yeah, BIG haste Snapshot tech that was meme’d yesterday…but like…I will if I really have to…

[spice spire]

Unlucky with trinkets right now

[spice spire]

Go nf for it

[timid cloud]

I’ll use it if I got nothing else.

[gusty mirage]

battery is better than it has been in the past, not ideal

but not as awful as it once were

[timid cloud]

Yeah.

[ruby grotto]

need to get used to assa in the first place before i worry too much about that i think

still messing up the opener fml

[timid cloud]

Personally I’d use scars because more stat = good

[gusty mirage]

you got this, just keep practicing

[timid cloud]

Plus Rogue is BRICK so fuck the cons of using the trinket.

🧱

[ruby grotto]

think i might need to rearrange my hotkeys

completely scuffed rn

[gusty mirage]

yeah play around w/ dif setups for things and it might make it smoother for you

[spice spire]

That helped me tremendously in the past ngl

[timid cloud]

Need to find the comfy buttons.

[spice spire]

Like G for crimson tempest

[ruby grotto]

[timid cloud]

Mine is Shift+D

For CT

[spice spire]

Those aren’t bad

I don’t use shift

[ruby grotto]

i might try to go away from shift too

[gusty mirage]

like.... at all?

[spice spire]

Correct

[echo geyser]

[gusty mirage]

[ruby grotto]

compared to Q+E+R etc its just such a big jump to go to S1

[timid cloud]

Wow, that’s surprising.

[echo geyser]

1234567890+´user

[gusty mirage]

literally the only explanation

[spice spire]

(Most of it is specifically because of my keyboard is old as shit)

[timid cloud]

Yeah, I have basketball hands & a decent keyboard.

[balmy condor]

[gusty mirage]

bro you want me to buy you a new one?

[spice spire]

1-9 user

[gusty mirage]

NINE?

[spice spire]

Nah I can buy a new one whenever

Yeah

[gusty mirage]

do you have shaq hands? wtf

[spice spire]

Nine is kidney

[timid cloud]

I can reach like WASD then go to like 8 but anything past that is too far.

[ruby grotto]

G is my Tricks macro lmao

[spice spire]

I also use P

[echo geyser]

wtf

[balmy condor]

Heroic raider

[spice spire]

P is brez

[echo geyser]

no hand on mouse technique

[balmy condor]

[gusty mirage]

@balmy condor can we ban a green name

[timid cloud]

LOL

[echo geyser]

2x hand on keyboard gaming

[timid cloud]

Excuse me! Off topic!

[balmy condor]

Ironically maplestory though

[gusty mirage]

this man uses pedals to move his character

[ruby grotto]

do you guys remember these red dots in laptop keyboards

just use those smh

[gusty mirage]

true

[spice spire]

True

I did previously in throne

[timid cloud]

True.

[spice spire]

Heroic raiding trackpad gaming

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

You think you are fried? You merely adopted the jank, I was born by it, molded

But yeah, keys used are QERTFGZXP and 1-9

And obviously wasd for movement

[ruby grotto]

"QWERTZ" Z or "QWERTY" Z?

[timid cloud]

Posted what I used in general.

[spice spire]

No y

[ebon notch]

cev still dumpstering me with all my ilevel

i wish i wasnt a boosted ape

[violet jackal]

wtf is this cursed finger motions. My keybinds are 1-5, QERTFGZXCV with SHIFTmodifiered for RFC

[spice spire]

Oh I do use C too

But yeah

Fried I know

[spice spire]

That’s why you’re getting all the gear man

You need it

[timid cloud]

I’ll post binds in a bit when I get the will to get out of bed.

[glass tulip]

daps still dumpstering me with all my ilvl

i wish i wasnt a boosted ape

[hybrid vale]

how u gonna strafe and press crimson tempest at da same tiime

[ebon notch]

you jump

and press it mid air

[timid cloud]

I actually have no problem doing that. Surprisingly.

[spice spire]

These boys don’t mouse run and it shows

[timid cloud]

Now that I think about it…

[balmy condor]

yeah you have other problems bud

[timid cloud]

[balmy condor]

like cockus too biggus

serious medical condition

[spice spire]

Bro?

[timid cloud]

[burnt latch]

if u use alt keybinds u are a B-class citizen

[spice spire]

Nope

[timid cloud]

IM SORRY?

[burnt latch]

MONKATOS

[spice spire]

Don’t do that

[balmy condor]

MMMMMM

[burnt latch]

[timid cloud]

I think that was an autocorrect moment.

Biggus Dickus is a classic.

[spice spire]

Yeah I figured

[balmy condor]

he did actually mean biggus, the correction came in before the delete

[bleak sky]

Incredibly based as usual

[balmy condor]

you're safe

[spice spire]

But I had to auto slam that one homie

[balmy condor]

for now

[burnt latch]

thank you sir, real recognize real

isnt auto correct based on your previous message history tho

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/based-based-on-what-gif-23234788

[burnt latch]

this whole scenario getting sussier by the minute

i wonder if i can get mw2 account from 2011 unbanned with this explanation

[spice spire]

:keyboard isn’t mobile

Mister warcieft

Some people do use it on the computer

[burnt latch]

there keyboard autocorrect?

[balmy condor]

no shot

[burnt latch]

that sounds aids af

[spice spire]

No, but n and b are side by side

So it happens

[burnt latch]

ye ye ofc im just jokin

[spice spire]

A missed stroke

[balmy condor]

• Oxi playing golf 2022

[timid cloud]

My stroke game is amazing.

[marble hemlock]

oxi doesnt miss strokes

[spice spire]

GOD DAMN

[timid cloud]

I’m excellent at typing fast to help those in need in the Discord.

[ebon notch]

I HAVE BEEN GIVEN

MORE LOOT

[spice spire]

Bro

Ain’t no way

What now

[ebon notch]

skolex bracers

i catalyst and socket and upgraderino

[spice spire]

Bro

How does Cev beat you on rygelon with this gear gap 🤨

[ebon notch]

i had unity bug

he was watching me on skolex and said "every global was flawless"

[spice spire]

Best feeling

Also was jailer a sell?

[ebon notch]

nope

🙂

[spice spire]

You have a few built diff gamers then (not in a good way)

Damn

[ebon notch]

we fucked up super hard

[ebon notch]

check externals on jailer

[limber lion]

this man is legit only missing off-hand dagger and chest

[spice spire]

Do I see fairies on the… warrior and FROST MAGE?!

[ebon notch]

warrior is normal

[limber lion]

best part is

daps said that it's likely that he might have to start playing his alt in the main raid

so he's got full bis geared rogue that he'll play on alt raids

[spice spire]

But the lock pulling a green with that many PIs

[ebon notch]

yeah thats what i meant lmao

[spice spire]

I figured

The fairies threw me tho ngl

[timid cloud]

Warrior Fairies???

[limber lion]

Faeries are pretty troll on Assa

[timid cloud]

I can understand mage & lock, but idk about Warrior.

[ebon notch]

its for MCs

[spice spire]

Ahhhhhh

[ebon notch]

makes their cds line up with every set

[spice spire]

That makes more sense then

Wait

I didn’t even realize the lock got the lions share of the fairies too

This mf

[timid cloud]

[spice spire]

Actually got 16 externals

[timid cloud]

76 externals incoming, Sylvanas all over again.

[spice spire]

Just to pull 15.7

[ebon notch]

theres a point

[spice spire]

11 fairies 5 PI

[timid cloud]

Go on…

[balmy condor]

truly unethical

[limber lion]

Rich get richer, smh

[ebon notch]

i can be ur sugar daddy now

[limber lion]

can't wait

[ebon notch]

oops rerolling warr next week sry

[limber lion]

unlucko

[bleak sky]

Inb4 daps drops avoidance gear and doesn't give it to cev

[ebon notch]

why wouldnt i give him

thats inting my raid

[bleak sky]

What a lad

[limber lion]

Now that I've killed Jail0r, can't wait to blast it next week

hopefully our rune weakaura works next week

[bleak sky]

Do you use echo weakaura?

[limber lion]

No, we have custom ones

Viklund made custom weak auras for every boss

Probably using some sort of fork of other weak auras maybe idk

[ebon notch]

ye

what cev said

[balmy condor]

waklund

[ebon notch]

wacklund?

[balmy condor]

nah

WAklund

[ebon notch]

nice

hes a real homie

love that guy

[upbeat tinsel]

Frame perfect gamer

[balmy condor]

sus

[ebon notch]

you would too

[balmy condor]

big doubt, loving guys is gay, and I'm not gay, I'm bi

[strange python]

https://c.tenor.com/u8Ud00osTe4AAAAM/call-out-shout-out.gif

[hybrid vale]

how the heck do u manage lol

i guess u strafe qe?

[hybrid vale]

why ? cause of the de-sync?

[limber lion]

Ya, it's scuffed especially if you only get 1 BF. If you consistently get faeries on cooldown, it could be better.

Then you can plan stuff out, but randomly getting faeries is just awful

[hybrid vale]

what if you used a different legendary if you knew you'd be getting one alot

[limber lion]

Not worth it.

[oak sky]

hate seeing faeries

[limber lion]

Dusk + Faerie combo can be pretty strong if you can plan it out consistently

All of our legendaries are terrible though

Dusk is the best, by far. Nothing else comes even close.

[oak sky]

minimal tier interactions will do that for ya

[hybrid vale]

we had bad legendary variety and bad conduit choices i feel

im ok with it tho

happy for it to be ending soonish

[oak sky]

doesnt end until december

[bleak sky]

We had doomblade, zolds, dashing and now dusk

[oak sky]

dusk is definitely coming back as a talent i bet they love that cdr shit

[bleak sky]

Wouldn't say it's bad

[limber lion]

I honestly mega doubt it, but who knows what's gonna happen

[oak sky]

feral ended up with their cdr leggo

[hybrid vale]

idk if i like that, just make it a reduced cd

option

idk

[oak sky]

definitely a fan of 2mins

[hybrid vale]

ya, with the return of huge ass talent trees, fluff like "reduces cd of x by 30 seconds" 0/2 is definitely poss

[oak sky]

its a legendary

so it would probably be a single judging by what we've seen thus far

1 point: legendary effect

[hybrid vale]

oh you want the dusk effect i see

[oak sky]

i mean i dont want it

necessarily

but if they implement it i bet thats how they would

[limber lion]

Yeah, who knows if they want to slap the most popular things on the tree or carry out thematic themes

Wouldn't mind seeing a buffed up Sepsis in the tree.

but no one plays it, so who knows

[oak sky]

i definitely feel like abilities that didnt see play make no sense

but who knows

[limber lion]

But the thing is, most of the things that did see play were tied to borrowed power

[hybrid vale]

it was/is the best pvp one, but tier got nerfed in pvp and outlaw got buffed so most ppl prefer outlaw now anyway

[limber lion]

We didn't play Dusk because it's good

We play Dusk because of our tier set

We didn't play MFD/CT because they're good talents

[oak sky]

i think if we get anything we get flag because they dont understand that the only thing that made it good is obe for 2/3 specs

lmao

[limber lion]

We play them because of Obedience + Tier

We don't play Sepsis because it's a bad ability

It's just tuned bad

There's a lot of good and bad abilities that are just tuned terribly

[hybrid vale]

what do you like about sepsis specifically

[limber lion]

It's very thematical and makes the most sense. It's a very exciting ability to press, especially with the conduit.

But it's just not enough, especially with the soulbinds being so terrible

[hybrid vale]

you like the stealth ability thing

[limber lion]

If it worked like it did previously, yeah

A free Ambush is not exciting

A free Subterfuge garrote is

And who knows if Shrouded Suffocation makes a return, a free SS Subterfuge Garrote from Sepsis

sounds great

Makes the ability super exciting

[hybrid vale]

that would be quite nice indeed

didnt know it treated garrote as in stealth for subterfuge

never played it

[limber lion]

It doesn't

but it used to

Back in Shadowlands PTR it actually granted you all Vanish benefits

[hybrid vale]

would u be disappointed if the tier bonus makes it as a end talent

in the tree

[limber lion]

No

I really enjoy it

But I don't think it will. I think it's a bit too strong as a single talent

As long as Master Assassin gets buffed or removed from the game, I'm happy. :-)

[hybrid vale]

i dont like that talent

[oak sky]

bet you 10 bucks MA goes into the class tree as the legendary version

[hybrid vale]

i dont feel like it belong in the tree now

[limber lion]

The 5s 100% one makes a lot of sense in PvE terms and it's not super duper op

it's just that Nightstalker/Subterfuge are much worse alternatives and 100% crit for 5s is super op in PVP

But we have the technology to nerf stuff in PvP

[timid cloud]

Muscle memory, so kinda hard to say, but usually just use the mouse turn during that global or q-e.

[ebon notch]

@spice spire its kinda crazy that we can kill jailer with less people every week

[spice spire]

Yeah man

That’s what happens when you have big pumps

[bleak sky]

Sales when

[ebon notch]

soon

our problem isnt jailer

its some of the earlier bosses that arent clean enough

like pantheon and lihuvim

[timid cloud]

How's your Anduin?

[ebon notch]

oh fuck

anduin is also a bit of a shitshow

really annoying

[timid cloud]

I'm surprised it's Pantheon that gives you the trouble.

[ebon notch]

because we skip 2nd adds

so we jsut focus boss

we dont play out the fight

[oak sky]

bro we skipped 2nd adds when WE were in prog

[ebon notch]

so sometimes we have trouble with that

idk why tho

we should have more than enough damage

[bleak sky]

Anduin 2nd adds?

[oak sky]

oh

[ebon notch]

no

[oak sky]

thought he meant pantheon

[ebon notch]

im talking pantheon

[bleak sky]

Oh

[oak sky]

yeah

[ebon notch]

we arent skipping shit on anduin

[oak sky]

we skipped those

[ebon notch]

idk our comp is hella dysfunctional sometimes

[oak sky]

dont you skip 4th monstrous

[timid cloud]

I think you'd have to have insane shit for skipping adds like you do in Heroic, but in Mythic.

[ebon notch]

yes

[timid cloud]

Like the entire phase.

[ebon notch]

we kill first monstrous then end

in p2 intermission sry

[bleak sky]

Idk if the colour Bois are doing it

[ebon notch]

they are but

[bleak sky]

But they kill it pretty damn fast

[ebon notch]

its quite difficult

[bleak sky]

And they're also cracked

CRACKED

[timid cloud]

Yeah, the amount of pump you must have must be absolutely nutty.

[earnest remnant]

we skip 2nd intermission on anduin yes

[bleak sky]

Nutty

[ebon notch]

stealthi showing up again smh

[bleak sky]

Did the nf sub tech work out?

[earnest remnant]

need sigil

[bleak sky]

Rip

[oak sky]

nf sub tech??

[subtle tundra]

omega duper pad

[earnest remnant]

its not pad tho

its for boss dmg

[subtle tundra]

🤓 boss damage

[limber lion]

Daps misspoke

[subtle tundra]

press bp

[limber lion]

He meant that we skip every add

We don't kill any adds

[oak sky]

ice

ic

[ebon notch]

we kill 1st set no?

or not

[limber lion]

Don't think so

Yeh, no one running out for night hunters

just blasting boss

[earnest remnant]

also rude

[ebon notch]

play assa in mythic

[ebon notch]

nice

[earnest remnant]

probably will at some point when i get sigil

[ebon notch]

on farm you can play with iqd

[earnest remnant]

nope i cannot

[ebon notch]

??

[earnest remnant]

healers are oom

[ebon notch]

they arent getting innervate?

[earnest remnant]

we under heal pretty much everything

so they still go below the threshold

[bleak sky]

They run 2 healers bruv

[ebon notch]

but if they get innervate

you can press iqd below threshold

[earnest remnant]

naenia is an iqd gobbler

also only got 272 iqd so my cache currently sims higher, and i refuse to play cache so there is that, im kinda shooting myself in the leg with that

[ebon notch]

depends on fight timer

if you have a 4 min timer for example

iqd should sim better

assuming you dont get execute

[earnest remnant]

but i believe its only me and push, as dps that dont have sigil so soonTM

[gusty mirage]

you don't need sigil

it's a crutch

if @bleak sky can get Alliance HoF without a sigil, you can speed run the raid without it

[oak sky]

[copper sun]

!pi

Anyone have PI sims?

[limber lion]

They're pinned in #wow-general

[copper sun]

ty!

[bleak sky]

Alliance hof

[oak sky]

I thought this man was a warlock now

[bleak sky]

So you came in here just for that?

[earnest remnant]

[hollow river]

[sonic hollow]

what does ass lack compared to outlaw/sub

[bleak sky]

aoe

[earnest remnant]

spreading it in here thinking its any of our business is kinda cringe

[hollow river]

yep

[balmy condor]

yeah that's a good move

the occasional off topic is fine but personal drama ain't it

[ebon notch]

i got personal drama with you

im seeing a severe lack of juice

[hollow river]

take em out daps

[ebon notch]

wrong channel

[glass tulip]

@bleak sky Jailer kill?

[bleak sky]

[glass tulip]

[bleak sky]

now I pug to get vaults

because we're taking a week off

[glass tulip]

Very nice, enjoy that title bro

did it on outlaw?

[bleak sky]

ya

outlaw good

[earnest remnant]

imagine having a jailer kill

🙂

[bleak sky]

soon stealthi

7min jailer inc

[earnest remnant]

we re-kill this week 100%

we are doing anduin skip so not clearing all the way

[bleak sky]

good, first 7 bosses are boring af

[drifting geyser]

!cache

[prisma monolith]

Cache of Acquired Treasures usage:
Axe is always the strongest weapon.
Note: The Weapon rotates every 12 seconds in the order Sword -> Axe -> Wand

[ebon notch]

why has it taken you so long

just cause of your speedkill strat

[earnest remnant]

missing people

we have been like exactly 20 people for raid 3 weeks in a row

and we pretty much only raided 1 day a week for 3 weeks before that, cuz people couldnt make it

so we have not had alot of time to re-kill

[ebon notch]

did people quit or what

[earnest remnant]

people doing irl activities

[earnest remnant]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8yPrFwNsTR11H93d6ps8zm dont think this is to bad for not optimizing anything really

[ebon notch]

You're basically bis wdym lmao

[earnest remnant]

its like 230 lower than my sub sim i think

[ebon notch]

Link sub sim

[earnest remnant]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k41boJUikYHRiETxFoMYbe

210 sorry

[ebon notch]

Nice

[noble osprey]

where should i have my 4 set sittin in terms of slots for sin rogue

[balmy condor]

unity in helm or legs are both fine

so your tier will take up the other 4 slots

[noble osprey]

ty

[ebon notch]

@balmy condor yo you got a sec to help me with smth

If I get hit by a haste debuff during vendetta

Like post snapshot

Will that affect my bleeds?

[balmy condor]

not until you refresh them

[ebon notch]

I assumed because they're snapshotted they should be unaffected

[earnest remnant]

[ebon notch]

Big brain

[oak sky]

just dont get hit

[balmy condor]

just dont use vendetta

[ebon notch]

I genuinely didn't notice because I was getting fae

And I was freaking out to cev in voice cause I had no idea what to cast when

[earnest remnant]

you get hit at the peak here

not stonks

[balmy condor]

imagine juicing so hard you mess up mechanics

couldn't be me

[ebon notch]

Smh

[earnest remnant]

was lurking in koru stream, only reason i know xD

[ebon notch]

Ofc you were smh

I think my healer was restreaming my disc stream

I need to go check

[earnest remnant]

also found 80 dps to my assa sim

yeah razhag was doing your pov

[ebon notch]

I do remember my energy regen suddenly slowing down but

Idk

[earnest remnant]

on few posses

[oak sky]

just have the weak aura in front of your face that does the mechanic for you

[earnest remnant]

i just use BW countdown on it

[earnest remnant]

imma be real it doesent even look like you are in it xD

[ebon notch]

https://www.twitch.tv/razhagtw/v/1517586077?sr=a&t=13296s

Found it

I still should've noticed

[earnest remnant]

to focused on juicing, we have all been there

[ebon notch]

Need to adjust weakaura sized

Sizes*

It's a new pack so have to get used to it

[earnest remnant]

i have debuffs shown above my health unitframe so i spot that shit insta

[ebon notch]

I can't believe I didn't beat cev on desausage

Like even he couldn't figure out why

I should've gone IQD instead

I always forget

[earnest remnant]

less flag stacks

so iguess low mut crits during flag

[ebon notch]

I also fucked up one forceful reapplication on one vendetta

[earnest remnant]

also looks like to me he has higher melee uptime than you did

[ebon notch]

Prioritised a CT so I didn't get garrote + rupture on overhang

Only rupture

Yeah he's probably sticking to it tighter

My raid group is filled with monkeys so I don't wanna burn cheat

I use it as a last resort

[earnest remnant]

he has less casts of both CT and rupture

so id guess you might re-apply to quick

[ebon notch]

Yeah I may have forcefully re applied CT too often

Rupture might be cause I re app early to force last second max duration rupture at the end of vendetta

[earnest remnant]

he has 12 env cast on u

as well

[ebon notch]

Mhm

But that shouldn't be PI diff tbh

Idk maybe it all adds up

Doesn't feel like it should

[earnest remnant]

1 more mfd, aswell so he might have sniped 1 more

[ebon notch]

Idk how hard he went on adds

In terms of dotting

[earnest remnant]

he had like 50k more dmg to it than you

one rupture on eacch

and he garroted 3

[ebon notch]

Nice

Now that on top of the other stuff I get

[earnest remnant]

its just small details basically

cev is a dps monster

[ebon notch]

Mhm

Not being the only rogue is rough

Especially when we're so close

Like you feel bad about such tiny shit that 99% of people will never even think about

But it makes the difference between us

[earnest remnant]

its basically first time for me playing with another rogue aswell since Bfa basically

im enjoying it

[ebon notch]

Yeah but you guys are speed killing

So your logs are out of the question essentially

Not even a concern

[earnest remnant]

some bosses you will have less overall dps due to the way we do them, but for some bosses it amps them as well

so its like a double edged sword

[ebon notch]

True

[earnest remnant]

some point im gonna try assa on our Anduin strat

i wanna see boss dmg difference

though first i need to test out my hidden NF tech on anduin, just need a sigil to make it a reality

[noble osprey]

@balmy condor what about the second leggo?

i have Duskwaker patch on ring

[balmy condor]

yep

[noble osprey]

sound right? easy

ill change shortly ahah need one more win in 2s

[balmy condor]

that's the only viable option so yeah

[balmy condor]

#pvp <- that away

we're pve andys in here

[noble osprey]

thank you!

[carmine dawn]

I wonder what kind of world the pvp channel is

We might be best friends but we’ll never know

[spice spire]

Wow slayer is in there, he was a lad when he was PvEing

Can’t be all bad

[timid cloud]

Killed Rygelon, no dagger.

[spice spire]

Extend time

[timid cloud]

Yay!

[gusty mirage]

dawg we've all been in extend time for months now

[ruby grotto]

good morning fellow rogues 👀

[spice spire]

GM mister sakoya hope you have a great day

[ruby grotto]

back to practicing assa opener

gave it some tries on our hc rygelon/jailer yesterday but i basically broke my fingers every pull so i defaulted back to sub for the raids sake

[glass tulip]

I don't think my hotkeys are very good since they are heavily keyboard oriented

but if you want to give it a shot it does feel pretty smooth

[oak sky]

defensives on mouse is bis

[timid cloud]

Only thing on my mouse is FOK

[oak sky]

i have ct and shiv on my mouse

and a lot of defensives and utility

[ruby grotto]

would love to :)

[glass tulip]

okay so these are my primary buttons I try to get on every single class

F - Builder
C - Spender
E - Bleed
R - Bleed
SR - Buff

X - AOE builder
SX - AOE spender (CT)

3 - Main CD
4 - Main CD
5 - Trinket

so 4 is just my covenant ability with the auto swap macro

and I don't use an mmo mouse so that is a big part of it too

[ruby grotto]

interesting take, moving most used abilities to keys around WASD and 1-4 for longer cooldowns+cc

[glass tulip]

yeah, so I mostly can stutter step to make micro adjustments for mechanics while hitting my bleeds or muitlates and I follow this schematic for every class/spec that I play

[oak sky]

i put longer cds on shift modifiers personally

[ruby grotto]

yeah i used to do so too

[oak sky]

but the core idea of commonly used abilities near your movement keys is the way to go for sure

for me my main buttons are usually 1234qe

and ill mess around with zx as well

[glass tulip]

good buttons, just difference in how comfy you are with certain buttons

I personally almost cannot press 1-2

ring finger is a little special

[ruby grotto]

defo the more uncomfy ones

3-4 ideal

5 a bit of a stretch again

[glass tulip]

hence why 2-3 minute trink

and then I hide my bars so I can look at my WA bar bc having bars at the bottom of the screen is pretty bad for seeing what is going on in the raid and encourages not learning buttons

but also if you have a WA setup move them to be in an order that reflects how it looks on your keyboard because it will become far more intuitive

[bleak sky]

not playing looking at your keyboard + skill bar

smh

[oak sky]

thats too much shit in the middle of the screen for me

this is why i have custom auras

[hybrid vale]

You’re missing “key”, easy to press binds and using some really weird ones in their place for pretty important abilities. Shift F for me will be used for things that require resources like rampage (fury warrior), ferocious bite (feral), finisher (rogue, I use it for rupture)
R should be your easiest to spam button if you’re a WASD mover so this should be your filler ie mutilate, sinister strike, etc F can be another filler or a more frequently used finisher ( I had rupture on shift f, envenom is on f) but as another example would be on warlock I have hand of guldan on f and shadow bolt on r ( will use sb 3 to 1 ratio compared to hand of guldan)

Shift + T for me is where I put 2+ minute instant offensives like vendetta, incarnation/berserk for Druid, recklessness etc as it’s easy to combo with other keys after ( especially if it’s off gcd)

E for garrote Is good, I have mine there too. It’s generally my dot builder key, swp for priest rake for Druid etc

Q is a nice button you can press while moving if a wasd mover so I use crimson tempest here as I’m often moving while using that one to hit more targets

G is relatively spammablw, so I wouldn’t use something like vial here as it’s got a 30 second cd, a gcd, and you don’t need to combo it with other things. I put my covenant ability here in shadowlands.

Shift 12345 are good for lesser used things like evasion, vial, feint, etc shift 3 is probably the easier one to hit so I put evasion here. Vial is shift 2

[glass tulip]

I don't know how you are saying I am missing "key" binds when this is exactly what works for me to play comfortably and orange parse mythic bosses

Every single players binds are completely subjective and personalized to them

I simply suggested what I use, not saying it is the best setup there is. And how is Shift+3 easier than mouse wheel Up 😄

[hybrid vale]

Oh shit I thought you were asking for help

LOL

[glass tulip]

no lol

the guy above was

I am saying these are some of my base template buttons for every spec I play

[hybrid vale]

Ahh ok well guy above you can use some my logic but ofc it doesn’t mean it’s the perfect set up, just my thought process

[earnest remnant]

my keybinds comfirmed best there is no questions asked

[glass tulip]

yeye, same idea

[grim tangle]

I just go for mnemonics, E is envenom , R is rupture, G is garrote, M is mutilate

[hybrid vale]

I like that you have the toxic blade tooltip on shiv

[earnest remnant]

my WA for it is also toxic blade icon

hate the way shiv looks

[hybrid vale]

M ?????

M!?!?!?

[ruby grotto]

🖐️ i was kekw

[oak sky]

dont tell anyone my stealth bind is 3

[ruby grotto]

this sounds like a crime

[earnest remnant]

i mainly play sub so ive got fair bit more keybound for it, since i havent bothered setting up all my macros for assa

[hybrid vale]

You could use the same key bind for mut and ambush, haven’t been in a scenario where I’m using mut in stealth over bush

[earnest remnant]

its from old days

[hybrid vale]

Ah ok, I try to get the most out of my keyboard keybinds since I use pleb fps 2 button mouse for wow

So I’m always thinking about the keybind economy

🙂

[earnest remnant]

basically anything that says A+letter/number is on my mouse

[glass tulip]

so many AUI enjoyers

[ruby grotto]

not sure what to do with door/shadowstep quite yet

[oak sky]

for me its v/shiftv for every class every covenant

[balmy condor]

Talent on 3 is kinda based

Ngl

[ruby grotto]

i swapped it for vanish, MFD is S+C now

[balmy condor]

That works

Vanish gonna be a utility spell next expansion just watch

[oak sky]

gonna be both

just watch

just like in keys now

[balmy condor]

[ruby grotto]

thats my secret

playing sub in m+ so i can vanish + shadowstrike for 3rd shadowstep

[balmy condor]

My secret for m+ is I don’t play this dogshit spec in it

[oak sky]

Last patch it was at least fun

Im not tryna maintain tier set vendetta in aoe

With no MA and maybe even no mfd

[ruby grotto]

for me its just not worth the effort i think

[hybrid vale]

🤨

[ruby grotto]

im content with playing 2 specs for 2 different kinds of content

[balmy condor]

Could you imagine if shard sets worked in m+ and your frost set just hit random mobs

[oak sky]

ew

but like last patch was nice

for m+

[balmy condor]

Back when sbs was good

[oak sky]

even venth was fun dude

[balmy condor]

The good ol days

[ruby grotto]

whats the thing that messed everything up from last patch? tier set? asking because i just came back a month ago and was a spriest/warr back in bfa/nathria

[oak sky]

yeah tier set made sin really unfun in m+

already didnt do insane damage

[glass tulip]

you dont, you just run weekly 15s and use vendetta on prio target

[oak sky]

now we gain 0 when other specs get like 10-20%

[glass tulip]

CT goes on whatever is around lol

ST m+ build goes hard

[balmy condor]

CT is the only aoe you have on sin, so really there’s nothing else left but to vend something and single target

[oak sky]

nah i gave up on that

[balmy condor]

[oak sky]

i play sub in my weeklies now

[glass tulip]

you play weeklies?

[ruby grotto]

play sub
press black powder
see 5 combo points still

[oak sky]

phial needer

[glass tulip]

[oak sky]

i do at least 4

and i do 1 on mage

[ruby grotto]

i dunno why

[oak sky]

and now 1 on dk

[ruby grotto]

but it took me until now to realise that i just unbound my character window

[balmy condor]

Based

You don’t need it

I’ve been tempted many times to bind it to like a numpad key

That way when someone asks me what my stats are and I don’t know, I’ll also forget how to open my character window

[ruby grotto]

"why don't you just check your stats?" well uuuuuuhh

[balmy condor]

And that will allow me to successfully dodge the question

[glass tulip]

but then how will you see how much haste you need to meet the threshold

[balmy condor]

I tell the threshold what it needs to be

The threshold is my bitch

[bleak sky]

Did you drink too much caffeine again

[balmy condor]

the only thing I drink is fresh hot cum

[bleak sky]

I'll take that as a yes

[burnt latch]

Fuck man just got rid of my morning wood and u go around saying shit like this

[kindred rapids]

wtf is this icon next to lihuvim

[glass tulip]

not locked in means it will wait until end of day

to collect all parses and then put the real number up

[jaunty crystal]

think he mans the sub

means*

[oak sky]

^

[glass tulip]

ah, didnt see lol

[kindred rapids]

yeah lol

first time I try sub in raid this tier and I beat all my sin parses

[glass tulip]

did you black powder the disintegrator adds

[kindred rapids]

hell yeah man I black powdered everything

[oak sky]

sin was bugged for my anduin kill

and i went it on halondrus to learn

havent gone back to either boss yet

2 sub parses

2 dog parses

[kindred rapids]

heh

feels bad

lost our sin one-trick status

[oak sky]

my guild still calls me a one trick

unfortunately

[kindred rapids]

new guild wants me to play sub 😦

[oak sky]

theyre dumb

what

same damage

• im guessing ur in farm?

[kindred rapids]

sub is the meta don'tchya know

[oak sky]

nothing wrong with playing it sometimes

but why force you on sub all the time

[kindred rapids]

mm, I think it's about proving I can play other specs

[oak sky]

prove it then ig

[kindred rapids]

Sub was briefly ahead of sin this tier during prog so I have to learn it

in-case it's good again in S4

probably will be with the higher ilvl EoN

[oak sky]

who cares about season 4

what

[jaunty crystal]

will be real good in S4, although S4 also doesn't matter lol

[oak sky]

its 4fun

[vestal wren]

s4 raid is probably tuned low enough to make spec choice not matter

[oak sky]

s4 is gonna be clearing with the boys and riding out SL

[vestal wren]

sub was ahead early this tier because of eon

[oak sky]

spec choice already didnt matter outside very early progging guilds

[vestal wren]

sin was "behind" only because of the reliance on the tier set

[kindred rapids]

yeah I think sub just got the reputation as the better spec because top ranked guilds were running it

That impression's hard to change

[vestal wren]

I think it was mostly related to the tier set

assassination has a lot of its power shifted into the tier set and early on did sim slightly behind sub

this did lead to the believe that assassination was straight out worse always

[oak sky]

also had the venthyr discovery

[vestal wren]

and did impact the perception of strengh of the spec heavily

[oak sky]

keep that in mind

[vestal wren]

sin was not significantly behind

[oak sky]

venthyr came like 2 weeks into the tier

[vestal wren]

you could say sin was equally behind

as sub is now behind outlaw

(in pure st)

the discovery did lead to it breaking even/getting slightly ahead

but still a small difference like this shouldn't make you discard a spec entirely

[kindred rapids]

Yeah I agree. Weird that sin representation is so low.

[oak sky]

lot of people dislike the sin set

[vestal wren]

i think it changes the base concept of the spec quite a bit,
also the cooldown cycles are very short what makes it closer to sub/outlaw cooldown cycles

[ruby grotto]

sin was what drew me to rogue - the whole class fantasy and dot gameplay seemed interesting to me

[glass tulip]

st build is going wacky in PF

[ebon notch]

Morning dingdongs

@burnt latch did you kill jailer yet

[burnt latch]

Its 3pm it aint morning buddy

And nope

[ebon notch]

What is korruptios best attempt

Did you see how well cev did yesterday??

Man was blasting

[spice spire]

Man’s cracked

[hollow river]

The mans a beast, a savant, if you will

[limber lion]

man forgot to mention me positioning wrong on one of the soaks and throwing one rune at a completely wrong hole

[bleak sky]

Morning fotm

[bleak sky]

But it's always sunshine when you're around

[burnt latch]

they killed the boss like 3 months ago dude

[burnt latch]

❤️ love u forever

[burnt latch]

finnish diff tbh just built different

[limber lion]

is Korruptio still on a break?

[burnt latch]

ye

well

we raid this week

for the first time

[limber lion]

Oh nice

[subtle tundra]

Any alliance guilds want a social monk?

I'm guildless

[ebon notch]

yeah but that was the weakauras fault not yours

[ebon notch]

ye but i thought you guys tried to rekill

[ebon notch]

what happened

[subtle tundra]

Nothinf

I'm alliance

[bleak sky]

his guild is horde

[ebon notch]

i thought everyone made alliance counterparts already

[subtle tundra]

Not everyone has half the guild m+ plwyers

That care about racial enough

[ebon notch]

my guild doesnt have that many

[subtle tundra]

Well I'm the only one in my guild that cares enough

[burnt latch]

nah we havent raided yet

[ebon notch]

wat i thought first raid was this or last week

[burnt latch]

yes its this reset

not everyone raids wednesdays

[limber lion]

which day you raiding on

[burnt latch]

this weeks raid is on monday

we dont have further raids scheduled, probably will just see what works for most people

idea was to raid tuesday + wednesday every 12 days and then chill for almost 2 weeks

but idk if we doin that yet

[ebon notch]

bro this guild is gonna disband

100P

[burnt latch]

yeah? how come

[ebon notch]

idk

just not enough players

for consistent weekly reclears

thats what keeps people playing

if you are doing on/off delayed shit then people will get bored

arent you bored?

[burnt latch]

nope

its a very different environment to your average 2/3 day raiding guilds

@limber lion can probably vouch for that

a lot of the guys only care about prog and reclears are kinda whatever, not forced on people

[ebon notch]

none of my logs have locked in

@burnt latch help

😦

[burnt latch]

how can i help

[ebon notch]

i dont know

😦

[burnt latch]

just wait

they get locked in at some point

[slim wagon]

pickpocket wcl admin logs, and log in to lock them xD

[ebon notch]

ye theyre supposed to get locked in this morning

[ebon notch]

easier said than done

[limber lion]

Yeah, Korruptio is a very prog- and Stormreaver-focused guild. First we finish prog, then we start following other Stormreaver guilds prog

Stuff that happens outside of Stormreaver doesn't matter and farm is not that important, especially during the summer

Of course they'd play more if it was during the fall or spring, but everyone wants to enjoy summer while they can

[burnt latch]

yup and nobody is forced to play which is nice, especially since prog is kinda hardcore so no need to burn people out with mandatory farm

[ebon notch]

idk if nocco hadnt been reclearing as much as they had id have dipped

like they finished prog over a month ago right

do you just quit the game or what

[burnt latch]

play m+ talk shit with the boys

enjoy irl

summer in finland is short

terassi auki nii peli on pausel

[ebon notch]

@limber lion translate pls

[limber lion]

basically

summer break = uninstall game

[ebon notch]

fair

[limber lion]

as someone who mainly sits at home during the entire summer, I can't really relate

but yeah, a lot of people go camping, travelling or whatever during the summer

so finding fitting schedules can be tough

the prog is pretty hardcore for the big K as well, so I can understand wanting to take a long break after it lol

but it's a great guild, they're all super great lads

[ruby grotto]

same, i dont function above 25c so i basically just sit and do fuck all, might aswell play stuff, unless i go to the pools every so often

[hybrid vale]

Same

[ebon notch]

@burnt latch keyge?

[burnt latch]

doing a few mythic bosses on alt

[violet jackal]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Fuus Shadowlands evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/uxr1tz

[ebon notch]

spot?

[burnt latch]

what char

[ebon notch]

shaman

[burnt latch]

does it have gear

[ebon notch]

im 277

so you tell me

[burnt latch]

ye sure sign up ill tell em to inv

[ebon notch]

how many spots

[burnt latch]

lots

[ebon notch]

i meant to say how many bosses

[burnt latch]

trying 5

[ebon notch]

signed

[ebon notch]

@burnt latch come nocco disc and vibe with us

[burnt latch]

im in our disc

[ebon notch]

[burnt latch]

gapped

[ebon notch]

padder

[burnt latch]

im ww

[ebon notch]

ye

stay in ur lane

dingdong

[burnt latch]

gapped

[ebon notch]

desperate

[burnt latch]

gapped by ooze and flayed toxin

unluck

[ebon notch]

@burnt latch I FUCKING HATE YOU

ON GOD

[burnt latch]

´?

[ebon notch]

LITERALLY 18 POOLS DROPPED ON MY HEAD

[burnt latch]

u were terrorist as fuck on the side alone

that will happen

[ebon notch]

no

i wasnt alone

i wish i was

there were 5 people standing on top of me

if im alone how am i a terrorist

[burnt latch]

idk

skill diff

[burnt latch]

@bleak sky @spice spire the race is incredibly tight atm

all coming down to xymox

[ebon notch]

i cant believe how hard he fucked me on skolex

[spice spire]

Easiest proczieft W I’ve ever seen

[ebon notch]

like i was completely sabotaged

[burnt latch]

lesgoooooooo