assassination

[limber lion]

Would need to submit a new profile altogether

[balmy condor]

are you doing that cev?

or koji?

I got some time at work today

[limber lion]

I can ask Koji.

[balmy condor]

perf

[viscid spear]

@oak sky

[oak sky]

@viscid spear

@spice spire should i get in disc king

[brazen zodiac]

ur cool agreon

[oak sky]

thanks

[viscid spear]

I assume you know what to do, lol

[oak sky]

ye but

i could join just to vibe

i shouldve played nf frost man

im gonna lose my mirrors

[viscid spear]

You're not Bone Cold Steve Austin?

Oh, you're Fire and no tier

[oak sky]

i pump st

[glass tulip]

Agreonicy moving to malganis?

House Arthas gamer?

[oak sky]

agreonicy in quakes alt raid to yoink some tier before guild heroic alt raid

[glass tulip]

leech

[viscid spear]

Yeah, I have 4pc so he's in some luck

[glass tulip]

Ash has 4pc on more than 1 toon?🧐

Gamer

[oak sky]

bro i will next week for sure

maybe even this week

[viscid spear]

Got it same week as Catalyst no less
Both had 2pc, made a third on each, Mage got tier in Vault and Ash got shoulders from Lords

[fleet anchor]

It's already done

Fuu sent me updated profiles for all 3 specs the other day, it should be in today

[limber lion]

[glass tulip]

Doing the Lord's work, Koji

Meanwhile oxi and I are over here testing streamers' weakaura packs🤣

[limber lion]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iturgk7pThJuAqe8DDu2zA

My profile beats his

Cache bis trinket btw

🙂

[glass tulip]

No more sigil

[limber lion]

No

it's bad

Cache is terrible

We want Sigil

We don't want Cache

[glass tulip]

But I don't have one..... So no more sigil

[fleet anchor]

I took out the party favors string

[glass tulip]

@limber lion obviously your gear would turn me into literal dust but I farmed up to rank 2 assa in normal raid

[limber lion]

[fleet anchor]

Seems hax

[limber lion]

Yeah I guess it's fair, don't think Venthyr warriors, Shamans or Fire Mages use the string either

[woeful socket]

can weak auras check for 4 piece or just for vendetta?

[limber lion]

By default it cannot check for 4p

Our 4p Vendetta does not have any special ID's to check for afaik

But I don't see why you would need a check for 4p, because well, once you have 4p you'll never go back to not having it

[woeful socket]

ty I was just wondering how to account for the pandemic window after vendetta expires. does that not really matter since you let them tick all the way out? still learning

[limber lion]

Yes, you let them run out or you reapply them when they're at 0-1s

[woeful socket]

ahh ok well thats easier then ty

[limber lion]

Pandemic during Vend is half of what it is normally, but that does not matter for the overhang

Yeh pretty simple

[fleet anchor]

You would just have to keep track if Vendetta was up when you last cast Rupture

[hollow river]

Roughly how much % was that?

[fleet anchor]

Don't remember. Difference between Cev's profile and the one I checked in is only 0.2% otherwise

From the trinket swap

[hollow river]

Oh trinket swapped as well?

[vast loom]

you can theres a trigger for number of equipped in a set, @twilit hollow and I worked on a WA for it

[hollow river]

Cache/phial bis now?

[oak sky]

yes Sadge

[hollow river]

Nice 👍

I dislike the 5 minute trinket and haven’t even killed the boss yet due to it being bis for so many other classes

[glass tulip]

Absolute geniuses

[vast loom]

[normal mist]

just did a 18 HoA, and altough i went sub, for the first time i did more than 13k dps overall

blackpowder goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[hollow river]

How much of that is the big bird guys though?

[normal mist]

1.3k

dps

962 dps melees + 428 dps breaths

[hollow river]

[normal mist]

so i actually pumped

xD

[hollow river]

Hellyeah

[twilit hollow]

I didn't find that, twin did

[zinc frost]

Good luck going back to sin in keys

[normal mist]

I will do 20s this season just so we (me and tank pally) give portals to another friend and yes I do need more dmg if we are to carry people xD

[strange python]

Hmm. Well placed steel on lords?

[spice spire]

You can papi

[oak sky]

ok

[strange python]

No sigil or iqd on lords is sadge

[strange python]

Lusting first swarm sadge zoldyck noises

[strange python]

Sbs doesn't reset on wipes LOL OKAY

[oak sky]

@spice spire left your alt run and joined my guilds heroic run to get aotc we waited until this week to do it

[balmy condor]

@spice spire right my main jog and left your clans normal walk to get CE I instantly did it last month

[vast loom]

does anyone here know how the old subterfuge garrote WA worked? im trying to do something similar with vendetta

[balmy condor]

gonna have to be more specific than that

there's like 4 different ways to make a subterfuge garrote wa

[spice spire]

I find mfs like u real interesting bro

[civic trellis]

i llike mfds too

[gusty mirage]

I find mfds like me really uninteresting bro

[vast loom]

right now the one im looking at lets you know that the garrote was cast during subterfuge as to potentially not refresh i assume, it has the code but i think its a bit more complicated than i expected because of target switching.

[balmy condor]

you can do something like cev does with his afenar edit

https://wago.io/rk2kEs76d

[vast loom]

yeah i have that functionality currently

but if vendetta falls off

it reverts to no snapshot pandemic

[balmy condor]

you can have a trigger for vendetta buff expired <5 seconds I'm pretty sure

[vast loom]

oh

true

this is why i ask lolol

[balmy condor]

:P

[glass tulip]

That was what I was about to say as well

[balmy condor]

yeah sure dude

[glass tulip]

Smh

I'm drunk bro gimme a chance

[balmy condor]

I bet you about to solve cancer too

for real

I believe you homie

100%

[glass tulip]

Nah I'm an economist, not a cancer doctor

I solve numbers

[balmy condor]

you about to solve r/wallstreetbets

on god

[hollow river]

Will we ever have Classic sims

[balmy condor]

no

[glass tulip]

Playing classic

[hollow river]

[balmy condor]

none of the simc devs have any interest in making a classic fork

so unless the classic community can scrape like 15 programmers together than understand enough C++ and have the dedication to rewrite half of the code

[hollow river]

So it wouldn’t have support until when? Legion?

[balmy condor]

kinda doomed

[hollow river]

sheeesh

[glass tulip]

Can't wait for classic shadowlands

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

find a copy of the spreadsheet rogues used to use

I'm sure someone still has a copy somewhere

[balmy condor]

idk how much old stuff they purge out of the code at the end of expansions tbh

[civic trellis]

I still have adriana's spreadsheet

😄 😄

[hollow river]

Yeah they’d probably have to have backups for that kinda thing

[balmy condor]

but in theory if everything works as it's supposed to and you can just plug in characters (which you can't cause the level difference and skill damage calculations have changed and multistrike doesn't exist anymore)

[civic trellis]

for rogues

[balmy condor]

you could do WoD sims

wod sims were pretty dry though

[spice spire]

U can mfdeez nuts

[balmy condor]

and forget about raidbots classic

so you'd have to 1. get a version of simc that's compatible somehow

2. get a version of /simc into the game that outputs something that old version of simc can use

[hollow river]

Yeye I was just curious

[balmy condor]

and then 3. sim everything locally

[civic trellis]

There were really good spreadsheets

If the scaling is the same I guess they are still okay

This was warrior one kekw

[tender garden]

What kind of dmg can an assassination rogue pull in an average 15-20 rn? Something like NW

[balmy condor]

15k maybe?

idk kinda not that easy

to just slap a number onto things

if I was in a +20 and saw a sin rogue doing 15kish I would be pretty happy with it

[trim cairn]

That makes me very happy xd

[balmy condor]

it's not like wow insane cracked

[bleak sky]

solve MWG 3.G.8 thanks

[balmy condor]

but it's like yeh he plays good enough

rogue doing his things

gg timed key

[bleak sky]

all the 3.g thanks

[harsh anchor]

I banged out 16k in a +19 earlier today. Probably dependent on a lot of variables like group mates and such. I respect the lock in my group so he can push his button

[balmy condor]

yeah m+ is super volatile in terms of how much you can crank

depends on the week and the routes and the other dps and all sorts of shit

[spice spire]

You cranking bro?

[balmy condor]

yeah I'm cranking my hog

gotta make bacon somehow

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

it aint easy being a farmer ya know

[abstract helm]

NF seems easier to play than Venthyr, is that true? I am looking for a more chill spec, not sure I like the sound of snapshotting and all that. Coming from Outlaw, haven't played since 9.1

[balmy condor]

yeah NF is easier

[trim cairn]

Nf is easy just press button and burst go brrrr

[balmy condor]

venth honestly isn't THAT bad

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/Oz6ewYfuUnp6i_9pyzPJY1hX3RnG2M2IWagjfvvhG3k/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/967679427301507082/vendetta_timings.png

[spice spire]

Only thing I farm is uwu pasta these days

[balmy condor]

like this is the worst of it

and the garrote/rupture stuff at the end of vendetta is just as cringe on the other covs

[ebon notch]

👀

[balmy condor]

idk cev's been talking mad shit

but he's kinda convinced me cause it's just the same set cd rotation every time

the snapshotting is still omega cringe don't get me wrong

but it's not like

THAT bad

[ebon notch]

Wait but you knew that already

Had he just worn you down or

[balmy condor]

yeh

pretty much

[ebon notch]

Easy for him

Now you play on stream yes?

[balmy condor]

maybe after halondrus

need to get it back into my fingers

and also no valor for my signet

and also no 278 dagger

kinda just sad life

my sin daggers are 265/259 sylv

also have no haste/crit gear

it's all vers

it's kinda all fucked

[ebon notch]

Oof

Not even m+ dagger you can upgrade for sub?

[civic trellis]

I would just play outlaw

kekw

[balmy condor]

I mean if I had the valor for that sure I guess

but I don't even have the valor for my signet

[ebon notch]

What did you dump all your Valor into

[balmy condor]

I had some real stinky gear rng early

had to replace like 250 trash I couldn't get rid of

I'm also trying to valor tirathons

cause that shield is juice

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

my vaults have been ass man

[ebon notch]

It is how it is homie

[balmy condor]

I took a xymox trinket from my vault and then got the mythic one on second kill 3 weeks later

[ebon notch]

3 weeks is w.e

[balmy condor]

and that's like

the only decent thing I've had

in my vault

[ebon notch]

That's worth imo

[balmy condor]

yeh it was a heroic xymox though

wasn't like a mythic xymox in vault and then a mythic dropped

I had a heroic in vault

and then got rid of it for the mythic

I used all my rng on sylv daggers man

nothing left but suffering

[ebon notch]

Ah

Yeah fair

[balmy condor]

scarizard handed me the streamer client for the vault rng but after vendoring the third mythic sylv dagger he decided to turn off the rng hacks

unlucky

[ebon notch]

I was so close to catching up to cevs sim before the signet

But now I'm perma ~200 behind

[balmy condor]

get bent I guess

[ebon notch]

Was born bent

Also that's quite a rude insult in the UK

[balmy condor]

damn same, my gf saw it and was like why's it go to the left like that you should see a doctor

[ebon notch]

Ok I meant metaphorically my ding dong is straight as an arrow

Thicker than one too ;)

[balmy condor]

I feel like that depends on the arrow

but if we're talking like a standard bow and arrow

that doesn't seem like much of a feat

[ebon notch]

After a certain point it stops being an arrow and more of a missile

Something you'd load into a ballista

[balmy condor]

ballistas use bolts not arrows

they're just artillery sized crossbows

[ebon notch]

Ye exactly

Bolts are relatively comparable to arrows no?

Without the fins at the back

[ember mural]

bros?

[lucid birch]

@balmy condor no dick chat in general babe

Come to bed

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah I guess you’re right

[balmy condor]

First time in #assassination?

[lucid birch]

[ebon notch]

Rogues can use bows

So this is all completely on topic

[spice spire]

Mister dsnow acting like he doesn’t take notes on assassination daily

[lucid birch]

I stopped checking this hellscape weeks ago

[spice spire]

Halondrus got you down bad?

[lucid birch]

Just waiting for dps to dps and bomb holders to click bombs man

P1 I’m tabbed out watching criminal minds reruns

[ember mural]

based

[ebon notch]

One time I forgot to pick up my bomb cause I was blasting so hard

I was so embarrassed

Never happened again

[lucid birch]

Benched

[ebon notch]

It was my only fuck up with the bombs the entirety of progress

:3

[spice spire]

Too many jobs sorry king

[ember mural]

daps trying to explain to his raid lead he needed to finish his cast when his spells are instant cast

[spice spire]

Best I can do is never pick up a bomb

[ebon notch]

Nah bro so you see I procced and then procced again and again and I was like woah dude and then it happened again and then I was like no shot bro then bomb went off

I was sitting at 19k DPS half way through p2

[strange python]

Welp. Should be able to 23k lords

But not sold on heirmir

Gem not lining up with swarm at all

Also wtb sigil/iqd

[glass tulip]

kevin uptime on lords

!pd

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[drowsy hollow]

Am I allowed to be slightly salty when a rogue gets outkicked by a MM hunter and demo lock? 😄 It was a ToP and half his kicks were on the first boss.

[glass tulip]

sounds more like a player issue than kick cd

[drowsy hollow]

Oh it's definitely player issue. Just sucks when someone with the shortest CD doesn't use it.

[balmy condor]

@ shamans

Or demon hunters

Melee class with a ranged kick

Gives them resources

And they don’t kick

Actual demons

[glass tulip]

and gives them resources as well

dh dk gremlins

[balmy condor]

I see you’re not sober yet

[drowsy hollow]

Trying to play all classes a little this patch but rogue is struggling. Pugging as a melee dps is rough. I oddly like Necro now with double leggos

[bleak sky]

should be more than fine to pug as rogue

[glass tulip]

:)

I am actually lol

just dumb

[bleak sky]

mo mwg solution = dumb

[drowsy hollow]

It's doable, but harder than tank/heal or lust class

[glass tulip]

I thought you got 15 energy for kicking on dh

[bleak sky]

you do

30 fury

[glass tulip]

oh, and dk gets runic power no?

[bleak sky]

with a conduit

[glass tulip]

ah, I see

whispyr back to bullying new players

[vestal wren]

i think our defensives need the energy costs removed

[bleak sky]

idk they're all fine

[vestal wren]

don't rly care about kick

[glass tulip]

if you use the conduit that lowers CV cost they are essenetially free

[bleak sky]

going back to spending energy on vial

disgusting

[glass tulip]

I have never ever ran into a use where I died to not having energy for a defensive cast

[drowsy hollow]

I bet energy free crimson is a class talent

Gotta find utility for rogue tree somewhere

[vestal wren]

talent trees def. will be fun to explore

i hope blizz takes the opportunity to change specs more noticeably than they did in the last 2 xpacs

[drowsy hollow]

Doubt it, though I wonder if they'll make instant poison a talent competing against another dps

At least on outlaw and sub I'd gladly trade instant for something else.

[north current]

hi guys

how can i see my pandemic in logs???

[balmy condor]

You don’t

Gotta just eyeball it

[north current]

maybe then all bleeds uptime?

[balmy condor]

You can check uptimes in the casts or damage done tabs

[indigo mulch]

I dont understand how people do souch dmg on halondrus =c

Im sitting at like 13k during prog

Top log is at 16k =s

[subtle tundra]

people sim 16k and then add the bonus from not missing and its hugee

[brazen zodiac]

sup varas

[subtle tundra]

haiiii

i wish i could play more but real life is cringe and taking my time :((((

[brazen zodiac]

sup

[subtle tundra]

WTF DOES SUP MEAN

SOUP???

i like soup

SUUUUUUUUUUUPA

[brazen zodiac]

me too i wanna go make food but im too scared

ive been watching ghost stories for 5 hours

im afraid a demon is gonna steal my food

[subtle tundra]

i miss degenerate bfa me who didnt have a life

[brazen zodiac]

just quit life

[zinc frost]

IRL is indeed cringe

[brazen zodiac]

sup rupt

[bleak sky]

rank 1 player

what life

[zinc frost]

[subtle tundra]

not to flex but if i played as much as other teams do, they'd be roasted on score

ok maybe a small flex

[brazen zodiac]

not to flex but i sleep 8 hours a day varas

[bleak sky]

quit your job, break up your relationship, abandon friends

[brazen zodiac]

tbh

[bleak sky]

time to grind io

[subtle tundra]

my hero

[brazen zodiac]

i really dont

lmfao

[subtle tundra]

funking liar

[oak sky]

bro im bouta quit school, do nothing, do nothing

[brazen zodiac]

no thats bad

[oak sky]

(last ones just a joke)

[brazen zodiac]

lmfao

[subtle tundra]

cap

they real

[oak sky]

thats what im saying bro

i aint bouta abandon my friends

[bleak sky]

bro quit school let's build a startup

[oak sky]

no shot

[bleak sky]

ez billion dollar business

[oak sky]

i dont have any skills that can make a business

[brazen zodiac]

just start your own government

zzz

[oak sky]

im not a CS nerd or nothing

[subtle tundra]

counterstrike?

[oak sky]

compsci

[subtle tundra]

wtf

[bleak sky]

write pretty words -> computer do things

not hard

[oak sky]

i am a counterstrike nerd 🤓

[brazen zodiac]

ur pretty

gn all

[bleak sky]

gn gn vita

[subtle tundra]

gn

i just woke up tho

[bleak sky]

same

[oak sky]

5 am for u

wtf

[bleak sky]

but I just fucked up my sleep schedule

so

[oak sky]

whats a brazilian mf gonna do all day

[bleak sky]

study

[oak sky]

experiencing my life

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/740289600634880121.webp?size=128&quality=lossless

my sleep is fucked too and i need to go to bed at least at like 3 am

and idk what to do for the next 2 hours

[bleak sky]

hopefully I'm in bed soonTM

[oak sky]

bro what

u just woke up and u need to sleep agane?

[balmy condor]

Soon trackmania?

[bleak sky]

[bleak sky]

ye I took a lil nappy nap from 21 til midnight

[oak sky]

brrrr

[balmy condor]

But midnight is at 12 and 21 > 12 so how’s that work

[oak sky]

🤔

[normal mist]

Whispyr needs sleep

[balmy condor]

I am not constrained by such earthly desires

[bleak sky]

go write guide

[balmy condor]

ITS IN REVIEW

[normal mist]

What time is it for you mister whispyr?

[balmy condor]

1:22am

[oak sky]

1am just like me fr

[normal mist]

Oh

09:23am for me

[balmy condor]

That’s what

Spain?

[oak sky]

yurop

[balmy condor]

UK?

West Europe shit

[normal mist]

CR7

[bleak sky]

Portugal

[normal mist]

Portugal

[hollow escarp]

or UK

[oak sky]

[bleak sky]

my man speaks brazilian

[normal mist]

LOOOL

You ain't wrong

[balmy condor]

Portugal is Just wannabe Spain

I’m basically correct

[oak sky]

P RTUGAL

[bleak sky]

🇧🇷

[hollow escarp]

I thought it was a brazilian colony

[bleak sky]

bruh I hate linkedin

[balmy condor]

Brazil is the colony you brainlet

[bleak sky]

fuck linkedin

[normal mist]

I'm being burned and I just woke up 🤣

[hollow escarp]

that was the joke, go to sleep

[oak sky]

im not on linkedin i have no future

[balmy condor]

Me irl

[normal mist]

Funny enough since there is so much Brazilian content on YouTube and young generations spend more time on YouTube, we now hear Lil boys and girls have Brazilian accent and even using some of their terminologies

[bleak sky]

YE I saw that

10/10

papa bless the Neto family for counter colonization

[timid cloud]

[normal mist]

Yes... those 2

They used to have okay content, not anymore

[oak sky]

theres more spanish and portuguese speakers in latin america than yurop

[balmy condor]

Bruh it’s 1:30 in the morning and I’m learning about societal influences between 2 countries I actively do not think of in my life

I love ravenholdt

[timid cloud]

Then there’s a cowboy.

[balmy condor]

The only thing I hear from Brazil is crazy president does a tweet, and rainforest looking like not a rainforest

[bleak sky]

I'll colonize you dw

[normal mist]

We actually are pretty chill towards Brazilians here in portugal due to the fact most of them LIKE TO PARTYYY and they usually can dance, so girls love it

[balmy condor]

And the only thing I hear from Portugal is idk some high as fuck sailer dude who wanted to discover India and everyone thought was Spanish was actually Portuguese probably, maybe, who knows

[oak sky]

killed some dudes when he found the caribbean

[balmy condor]

I actually think I do not know a single thing about Portugal other than it’s location

That’s how little it affects me

[oak sky]

portugal is edging spain

[subtle tundra]

I only know 1 kind of edging

[balmy condor]

Do they like eat cheese there or something

What’s the most Portuguese dish

That exists

[oak sky]

bro low key i realized i didnt even know the capital of portugal when i did a country

[bleak sky]

dw portugal only has 1 good thing going for it

[oak sky]

i know a good amount of other country capitals

[balmy condor]

I need to create a stereotype

[bleak sky]

pastel de nata

[oak sky]

but i had no clue what portugals was

[balmy condor]

Pasta de nothing

Empty country

Got it

[balmy condor]

I’m still thinking but I don’t think I know either

Is Portugal part of the EU

[oak sky]

(lisbon)

[normal mist]

You don't lose much not knowing Portuguese stuff really besides we thought we conquered the world at some point

[balmy condor]

Like they are

Right

But there’s that voice in your head that’s like

“You don’t really know do you”

[oak sky]

im ngl i figured when i saw the name of portugals capital then i would just recognize it and be like oh im so dumb lol but i just didnt recognize it

[balmy condor]

“You just kinda assume”

[normal mist]

Lisbon is indeed the capital

[oak sky]

like bro for spain or smth you would see the capital and be like damn i was a dumbass for not knowing that

[balmy condor]

I deadass thought lisbon was in like Latvia or one of those tiny ass Baltic countries

[normal mist]

Or "Lisboa" in portuguese

[oak sky]

with portugal youre just like i didnt even know i didnt know that

no offense

[normal mist]

Well fun fact about portugal, we are probably the country that consumes more coffee

But altough the rest of the world takes like big cups of coffee, we just have small ones like these

☕

But smaller

[oak sky]

huh

[balmy condor]

addicted to caffeine lots of tiny cups big cups show you that you’re addicted hide the addiction in small cups

[normal mist]

LOOOOL

[bleak sky]

does it apply to energy drinks

small redbull is fine, big redbull bad

[balmy condor]

Like if I put 2 liters of coffee in front of you, lot of fucking coffee

But if I put 20 tiny cups of coffee in front of you over the course of like 4 hours that contain a collective 2 liters of coffee

Not a lot of coffee now is it

[subtle tundra]

i drink 1 cup ~200-250 ml

🤓

with milk

milked coffee best

😏

[normal mist]

ppl here love monster

[balmy condor]

@normal mist with all those tiny cups do you have like a Russian nesting doll type situation with your cups

Do you have like

Tiny cup

[bleak sky]

same

[balmy condor]

Slightly less tiny cup

[bleak sky]

mango monster hits the spot

[balmy condor]

Below medium sized cup

Medium sized up

[subtle tundra]

energy drink drinkers are not real humans

[balmy condor]

Slightly bigger medium sized cup

[normal mist]

this is what i mean by small cup: (and pastel de nata)

[balmy condor]

And they all fit together?

[balmy condor]

That’s what we would call a “shot glass”

[subtle tundra]

1 shot of expresso

[normal mist]

yeah exactly

[subtle tundra]

1 shot in my head

[bleak sky]

2 shots of vodka

glug glug glug glug

[subtle tundra]

mate im going to a birthday party today

and i cant even stay there

cause i have raid

??????????????????????????????????????????

[normal mist]

People here take like 6/7 of those per day, some more ...............

[balmy condor]

Is it yours?

[bleak sky]

chad move tbbh

[subtle tundra]

i have to leave early

[bleak sky]

chad move

party = no gear

raid = maybe gear

[subtle tundra]

its rygelon prog :////

[oak sky]

yeah thats a no miss

[bleak sky]

just kill it lol

[subtle tundra]

cant even drink, have to leave hella early

[bleak sky]

kill it, get 285 dagger and bing chillin

[copper hazel]

some parties have gear, depending on what type of gear we talking about

[subtle tundra]

cant even try to get bitches

imagine i get a bitch

and have to leave at 8

[balmy condor]

Yeah but if it isn’t your birthday then you don’t get to keep any of it

[bleak sky]

get bitches and show them your raid

[oak sky]

bro thats so true varas

[bleak sky]

take them home

[plain onyx]

do i really need to go meta (sub) to achieve top dps ? 😔 I mean i hate it and I'm good with assa, and if I get good gear, will I hit the charts in raids/m+ ?

[oak sky]

just get bitches anyway

[bleak sky]

show them your IO

[subtle tundra]

yo

i talk to her

9/11 rogue

[oak sky]

bro show her your logs

i would do that shoit

[subtle tundra]

world first 29 mists

my lady

[bleak sky]

they're the same in raid

[subtle tundra]

r1 rogue world

[oak sky]

i would literally show logs if they were into gaming bro

[bleak sky]

m+ sin is not great

[balmy condor]

Sin good raid, sub good raid
Sin slightly less good m+, sub good m+

[subtle tundra]

watcha gonna do?

[oak sky]

look at me im a degen

[subtle tundra]

speaking for assa m+

[bleak sky]

aight agreon

[balmy condor]

I’m gonna wait 4-5 weeks for mdi to finish and check back with you on that

[subtle tundra]

ok

no need

to flame

[balmy condor]

[subtle tundra]

my goal is top 5

ok?

[bleak sky]

imma sign you up for a pickup artist school

[oak sky]

please no

[bleak sky]

[oak sky]

i dont want to learn how to be a misogynist

[balmy condor]

It’s flame but I love you

So it’s fine

That’s how it works

[bleak sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wH2YySpoXE&

[subtle tundra]

my healer wants me to swap to assa in spires after third boss

[bleak sky]

gonna send you to this bootcamp

[oak sky]

yeah seen minalba

[balmy condor]

I can be toxic all I want as long as I say haha it joke after

[subtle tundra]

for giga st

[bleak sky]

pog tech

just like fire mage

[normal mist]

tried that with my GF, she doesnt agrees

[subtle tundra]

destro swaps to demo and i swap to assa

[normal mist]

but there again, she never does

[subtle tundra]

0 time loss anyways

[normal mist]

😂

[bleak sky]

ye ye ye

[balmy condor]

Sounds like it’s gf problem not your problem, solution: find new gf

[bleak sky]

also @subtle tundra go play TGP

[subtle tundra]

dont have the time for that

[bleak sky]

chad sin rogue demolishing TGP burying echo

[normal mist]

gotta open up party finder again 👌

[subtle tundra]

i fucking HATE real life

why is it real

[balmy condor]

TRUE

[normal mist]

dont we all

[bleak sky]

just close your eyes bro

life can't hurt you if you're sleeping

[oak sky]

i hate wow life bro i decided to pug a key as sub and the tank pulled 3 mobs and we still died to explosives

[normal mist]

or dead

[bleak sky]

unless nightmares but then that's just you hurting yourself

[balmy condor]

But when I close my eyes all I see is her

[oak sky]

you should call her

[normal mist]

great personality

[glass tulip]

Is it horny pre-EU hours already?

[balmy condor]

She’s literally waiting for me atm

[oak sky]

aint no way

[bleak sky]

BABE COME TO BED

sorry love I'm talking to degens in discord

[subtle tundra]

spends more time on ravenhold than with gf

[normal mist]

Chad

[oak sky]

bro i wish i had a her to call

[normal mist]

RH is forever, GF is temporary

[oak sky]

nah not for whispyr

[subtle tundra]

maybe i can transition

[glass tulip]

I'll be your her to call

[balmy condor]

This enough proof?

[subtle tundra]

wtf

thats a bait

[oak sky]

boob

[normal mist]

BOOB

[balmy condor]

It’s a long story okay man

[subtle tundra]

she baiting frontals

[normal mist]

SURE

[balmy condor]

You guys have weird pet names too

It’s not weird

You’re weird

[normal mist]

actually

i have 4 cats

last one i decided to call her black

[subtle tundra]

my pet hedgehog named SPIKE died like a week ago

[balmy condor]

This feels illegal

[oak sky]

weird pet names are not weird!

[bleak sky]

no

[glass tulip]

But boob, matches your real name ig

[oak sky]

i would know i am in a relationship (I'm not)

[glass tulip]

Should've told that one to your class on introduction day

[balmy condor]

I mean like it’s probably black in Portuguese so it’s negra?

We’re getting spooky

[normal mist]

Preta

[subtle tundra]

racist

[balmy condor]

BRO WHAT

[subtle tundra]

im canceling you whispyr

[bleak sky]

on god I'm flying to cali and becoming a wingman for agreon

[balmy condor]

No shot

[glass tulip]

Wipe the vod

[balmy condor]

Negra in Spanish, PETRA in Portuguese

[normal mist]

PRETA

[balmy condor]

BRO NO WAY THEYRE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES

[bleak sky]

negra is also in portuguese

[solid venture]

CRISTO RONALD

[oak sky]

petra is rock bozo

[solid venture]

SUWI

[balmy condor]

Don’t speak to me fake Portuguese

[subtle tundra]

SAYUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[normal mist]

negra is a more elegant way to say preta aka black yeah

xD

[bleak sky]

ye

[oak sky]

bro u dont gotta

i just dont try very hard

[subtle tundra]

yea bro i also dont have a gf cause i dont try

surely

yea

that the reason

yep yep

[glass tulip]

While you're on your way make a stop in Chicago minal

[normal mist]

Oh here take another pet shot, this one is called Skimmer

[glass tulip]

Need help

[oak sky]

its at least one reason

[oak sky]

starting my irl logwatch now, taken down mav as chicago

[subtle tundra]

she looks like she eats from the garbage bin

[normal mist]

LOL

[balmy condor]

Hey you see my boy across the room over there? Nah the other one, no to the left of that, yeah that’s the one, he’s got MULTIPLE RANK ONE HEALING PARSES. He’s healing himself, he’s healing the raid with a token of appreciation, I bet he can appreciate a woman like you if you get what I’m saying, he can heal your broken heart, really just a great guy

[bleak sky]

ez pit stop

[glass tulip]

Don't tell quake, it'll go down in the lore books

[bleak sky]

gatto

[subtle tundra]

bet he used phial on cd

[balmy condor]

Don’t dead me that was smooth as hell you telling me you don’t want that?

[oak sky]

i dont heal anymore

ive changed

[subtle tundra]

@balmy condor can you do a sim with phial on cd during rotation

[normal mist]

4 female cats at home, they are all on matting season

send help

[balmy condor]

Yes I can, no I won’t

[subtle tundra]

fuck

dude

i FUCKING HATE HAVEN

[bleak sky]

is castration not legal in tuga land

[subtle tundra]

"JUST RANA?!??!?!??!?"

WHAT HAS HAPPENED

TO

DJAHSudj duai

[normal mist]

it is, but it is also expensive af

[balmy condor]

I don’t know that npc

[bleak sky]

rip

[oak sky]

wait oh no my healing parses are starting to rise its gonna happen again

its coming homme

[subtle tundra]

"NO. THE RISK IS TOO GREAT, UTHER"

THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER TREATCHERY

[bleak sky]

I think I got you hold up

[normal mist]

random question does anyone watch onepiece?

[balmy condor]

Wowhead guide recommends triple nadjia if you play theo the token healing is gonna skyrocket parse cause no one’s gonna play it inevitable gains

[glass tulip]

My heals are garbage, but I'm the best dps'ing assa rogue in the world (in normal) (behind Ceverion)

[oak sky]

im literally gonna do it just to maintain my reputation

[oak sky]

nice qualifier

[subtle tundra]

2016-2017 me should have, i dont have the patience now to start

[solid venture]

Wait we use triple potency nadjia now?

When the fuck did that change

[oak sky]

Dauntless in sy

St

[normal mist]

i started again at ep 300, atm at 450... just more (almost) 600 to go!

[oak sky]

Theo low movement

[solid venture]

Aha

[subtle tundra]

its very slightly worse than haste tea and doesnt have random umbrellas that make you lose dps

[balmy condor]

It’s just more consistent than rolling shit theo tea over and over

[solid venture]

Understandable good sirs, have a nice day

[subtle tundra]

your welcome

[oak sky]

Theo low movement means literally only skolex

[glass tulip]

Always roll haste but tanks always sprint from your umbrella

[normal mist]

sunny day, lets get people away from their random umbrellas

jarvan is helping

[bleak sky]

no I don't got you

[oak sky]

bro if hes looking for the peak number just check my SOD healing logs

that one guy beat me though

[white gull]

Hmm i see bloodmallet is simming nadja higher than theotar

[quasi ledge]

@oak sky Sorry :)

[oak sky]

theres actually no way you just came in and said that

[quasi ledge]

Prime time to open Discord

[white gull]

hmm im simming higher with dauntless duel than 3x potency as nadja, but nadja overall lower than theotar

[royal lantern]

almost as if stuff is different for each player, and that simming for yourself is always the best option

[limber lion]

1. Don't look at bloodmallet, they sim soulbinds individually without taking a million other things into account. Just sim yourself.

2. Nadja with DD is better than 3p for pure single target, but because of how DD works it's not great for most fights. Almost every fight has adds which devalues DD a lot

3. Theotar sims the highest for probably everyone tbh, but you should probably still stick to Nadja 3p because a lot of Theotar's strength comes from 100% uptime on Soothing Shade. You'll likely be closer to 30% or even less yourself on most fights, which is a 200-400 dps loss

Nadja 3p doesn't have any rng, uptime or single target-forcing, which makes it the best and most versatile soulbind

The only thing is Thrill Seeker, which this tier seems to work quite nicely on most bosses

Unlike the intermission-heavy SoD

[gusty adder]

Btw, this might have been answered already, but if garrote and/or Rupture is above the pinned threshold as vendetta is fading, do we just not reapply rupture/garrote?

• Im guessing the first comment will be: Plan accordingly and have Garrote/Rupture on 7/8 seconds, but if this somehow fails, am I then better off just refreshing CT or even using Envenom?

[limber lion]

The rules are set in the pins

If Rupture's duration is 9 seconds, you don't reapply it

So you would Envenom or CT

But if you Envenom, then Muti and you're at 4CP, and Rupture is now at 7s and Vendetta is at 1s, you would Rupture

It's all specified in the pin, you just follow the rules there.

1. Always press abilities, never stall

2. Press Rupture if Rupture < 8s and Vend < 3s

3. Press garrote if Garrote < 7s and Vend < 3s

Garrote lines up naturally very well because of it's own cooldown

You don't have to wait too long to reapply garrote because the cooldown of it limits the use of it quite a bit already

Just follow normal pandemic rules

Forcing a Garrote reapplication at 6-8s of Vendetta is fine, which would reassure that you get the overhang at 0-2s of Vend

[gusty adder]

Yea exactly - I just need to get a hang on this new tech - usually lines it up fairly well I believe, but I have had times (before new pin-timers), where I would overwrite a longer running rupture in last second etc

[glass tulip]

Follow up question on the 3-2-1 rule: I assume the order of your last globals, following all rules, would be Rupture, garrote, mutilate, CT?

since it is only marginally beneficial for CT to make it into the overhang

[limber lion]

That's not following the rules is it?

Because you're reapplying Rupture at <4s of Vend there

It is not beneficial at all to force CT reapplication

The most optimal thing would be reapplying Rupture at 2s, Garrote at 1s

and both just enter pandemic the same second you reapply

[hollow dirge]

Also, though I suppose the answer, if rupture is at 9 s, garrote is reapplied, and ct is about to run out, last global in vendetta, worth going for a stronger envenom instead of higher tick rate on ct?

[limber lion]

You follow normal pandemic rules

So if CT is about to drop, Rup/Gar are already applied, then you CT

[hollow dirge]

Ok, thought so, just ct

[glass tulip]

oh I see you changed it

as of yesterday it was still force all 3 🙂

[limber lion]

The only thing that changed was CT

[glass tulip]

yep

[limber lion]

Meaning you've been playing it wrong

because it's impossible to fit all 3

in 3 gcds

The rule was 3s of Vend

Not 4s

[glass tulip]

right, I'm not saying I was trying that

[limber lion]

You just said you were forcing all 3

[glass tulip]

I can't say confidently that I have had consistent reapplication timings

[limber lion]

The thing with CT

is that it is technically a gain to force the reapplication of it within the very last second

as Venthyr

[glass tulip]

I asked if I was supposed to try to force all 3 😄

[limber lion]

Oh

Well that's wrong

because I changed it 2 days ago

[glass tulip]

obviously

[limber lion]

I changed it the same day

Literally 2 hours after posting the pin

[glass tulip]

oh whale, will think about it starting today

[oak sky]

CT has to be a microgain cuz just gives you a couple extra ticks over the whole fight

[limber lion]

But yeah

the rule was "press CT at 1s of Vend if CT is at 3s or less"

[glass tulip]

my all stars outside of mythic are hardstuck anyway

[limber lion]

but that's the very last rule

meaning you would prio rupture/gar more

You would only press CT at 1s if everything else lined up well automatically

without forcing

but forcing CT is not a gain, which is why I removed it

It was confusing for people and people thought that you need to force all 3 together

when it's just a rule to follow, not something you have to do everytime

[oak sky]

I think my damage has been lower than it should be because my plater bleed glow is only changing inside vendetta for garrote and not rupture and it took me this long to notice

[hollow dirge]

This is why I wondered if stronger envenom as last global when rupt/garr are already reapplied might be a stronger use of cp, but so far I played ct if it would happen that way.
That stupid envenom itch always there.😂

[limber lion]

CT is fine to reapply at 1s if for some reason you messed up garrote window and it's on cooldown and you can't reapply it, or Rupture entered pandemic just before you want to force it again

[glass tulip]

I was talking to Mal and they didn't think there was an easy way to show explicitly your hung bleeds

just gotta remember to not overwrite

[oak sky]

Nah not that

[glass tulip]

oh

[oak sky]

Its like

[glass tulip]

still using regular pandemic?

[oak sky]

Inside vendetta my garrote pandemic glow changes to 2s

But the rupture one is still like 7 or whatever

[glass tulip]

oh I read it wrong

[oak sky]

Yeah

[glass tulip]

you said and not rupture

thought it was just and rupture

[oak sky]

Idk why it changed for garrote and not rupture

Its literally just the plater script

Ill have to figure it out

[hollow dirge]

Takes a while to get used to ignore regular pandemic windows during vendetta😂

[glass tulip]

well when your weakauras/plater change too it makes it much easier

[oak sky]

It was so funny though i showed up to heroic jailer with my guild around half an hour in and we hit p3 and they were like whys the boss so low and im like

[glass tulip]

how low was the push into lust

[oak sky]

It was like 8% lower than the previous pull

[glass tulip]

oh bc you fixed the rup

[oak sky]

We lusted on pull

Nah it was just without me vs with me

(I gapped everyone)

[glass tulip]

[oak sky]

And also thats when i figured out the rupture

[glass tulip]

lust on pull changed our spellqueue and it fucked us up real bad

[oak sky]

Idk like

I died the first pull i did

And while i was dead i learned all the new mechs

[glass tulip]

he insta cast one of the LOS mechanics instead of a tank soak and like 5 people got mc'd

[oak sky]

O

[glass tulip]

so now we don't lust pull ever again til mythic

[oak sky]

But yeah im happy i have halondrus now

🦀

[glass tulip]

killed crab?

[oak sky]

Nah the mount

[hollow escarp]

ohh

[glass tulip]

oh

lame

[oak sky]

Crab prog resumes tomorrow (sub main)

[glass tulip]

[limber lion]

metaslave

[glass tulip]

what class is your bomb partner

[oak sky]

Sub rogue

[glass tulip]

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[oak sky]

Excuse to learn and make my guildies stop giving me shit for "not playing the better spec"

[limber lion]

link them the sims

we beat the sub by 150 dps

ez

[oak sky]

Its not just st man

[limber lion]

Oh?

Halondrus isn't just st?

that's news to me

[oak sky]

On pantheon and whatever people (1 person) are bitching about me not playing sub

[hollow escarp]

yikes

[limber lion]

LUL

[oak sky]

Like bro he was a onetrick udk all last tier

Which is greay

[hollow escarp]

the only time somebody complained about me playing assa was on skolex but was doing top damage

[oak sky]

I love a one trick

[limber lion]

is he playing uhdk on pantheon?

[oak sky]

No

[hollow escarp]

well, still below warlock with 3 pis

[oak sky]

Hes become a meta slave

[limber lion]

oh okay

[glass tulip]

BP spam main

[limber lion]

a changed man

[oak sky]

But i was like bro im not boring myself pressing 2 buttons on pantheon

[limber lion]

he becomes a fotm-chaser

[oak sky]

When we can kill it with me on sin

[limber lion]

so everyone must do that

[oak sky]

Like im literally playing sub on halondrus to learn

I give 2 shits about the meta

[limber lion]

Yeh that's fair

[oak sky]

I really should reroll outlaw just to piss everyone off

[glass tulip]

I think my keybinds are just hella cooked on sub. I can't do the opener right lol

[limber lion]

It's a decent boss to practice on

[oak sky]

Ye i think so

Its gonna be a long prog

Relatively

And while it has some mechs its still an st boss

[glass tulip]

you're into P3 though, yeah?

[oak sky]

Nooooo

P1 intermission we got maybe an hour of prog in

[glass tulip]

oh that was notrickz I was talking to

they are at 35%

[oak sky]

Im in a piss guild bro

[glass tulip]

im in a piss guild 5/11

[oak sky]

O

[glass tulip]

7 new players this week

[oak sky]

We had a slooooow lihuvim

[glass tulip]

oh baby just you wait and see

[hollow dirge]

That’s fine. We had a slow dausegne. And a quick lihuvim. Fucking amazing

[oak sky]

I mean yeah i dont care really

Slow prog is expected

Just gets annoying

[limber lion]

Our boys are at 52% on Jailer

[limber lion]

70 pulls in

[hollow escarp]

actually blasting this tier

[glass tulip]

death % on 30 pulls

[oak sky]

Honestly that boss is all motes and stacks then its gg

Damage is so irrelevant

[hollow dirge]

Redstars mvp though

[glass tulip]

yeah we are swapping to edge/corner strat

no more flowers

[hollow dirge]

0.4% difference, big

[hollow escarp]

best boss for outlaw since they can solo their cc with the CDR on blind

[oak sky]

I only had to do one blind all prog

And it was on the kill pull

I saved the day

[hollow escarp]

we did 40 pulls with 2 blinds, then swapped to hunter traps and killed the boss in 4 pulls

[oak sky]

Lmao

We had 3 hunters

We had 1 return, and another come back from another guild

[glass tulip]

actually annihilating

[oak sky]

Wqit yeah actually

Is that p2?

Or edging... on p3

Honestly jailer is pretty good

[limber lion]

P2 yeah

[oak sky]

Judging by heroic

[hollow dirge]

It’s better than sylvanas anyway😂

[oak sky]

I thought it was gonna kinda suck

Sylvanas was good i wont take any hate bro

P2 wqs just long

And p1 intermission was long

[limber lion]

Not necessarily the biggest fan of Jailer myself

[oak sky]

Fight made sense

[limber lion]

but Rygelon was really good

[oak sky]

P3 was a blast

[oak sky]

Literally i like dont want to apply to any guilds because im so scared of missing rygelon prog

[glass tulip]

P1 jailer hardest part

[hollow dirge]

Fight was way too long, had stupid long in im’s, and we did not even kill her

Fuck that boss.

[oak sky]

I feel like rygelon is for sure gonna be my favorite boss

[hollow escarp]

looks like a chore boss

had to soak with cloak outside of melee because of assignments on hc

[glass tulip]

"swap to quasars"

[hollow escarp]

but, but, my vendetta

[oak sky]

Dw theyll nerf quasar hp by the time we all get there

[limber lion]

We don't even touch quasars

[hollow escarp]

I thought the same about Halondrus

[limber lion]

Ranges just cleave them down immediately

[hollow escarp]

watch them nerf it tomorrow after we kill crab tonight

[limber lion]

First set dies immediately, the following sets just die slowly

[hollow dirge]

They’re just mfd refreshers

[glass tulip]

how many destro / boomy

[limber lion]

Ye

[glass tulip]

to not do quasars

[oak sky]

Bro we have 1 mediocre boomie 2 wl

I think we're fucked

[glass tulip]

SAME

[oak sky]

A lot of hunters tho maybe they can auto cleave them

If they go mm

🤔

[limber lion]

We just had the melee swap to quasars if they got the debuff themselves

The quasars have like 110k hp

so they die pretty insta

[hollow river]

Lolwut