assassination

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[thorn lynx]

Use that Afenars WA group. It does the glow for everything, for all specs.

[bleak sun]

Ehhhh still no set in vault

[delicate smelt]

what about the covenants? Pin mentioned Venth as best instead of Fae. Are there any news about it?

[hollow escarp]

the pin kinda sums it up

[delicate smelt]

ok

[hollow escarp]

it's best but the gameplay might not be for everybody

[vestal wren]

night fae is a lot more chilled

[strange python]

Any way to run a quick sim without vanish?

[jade abyss]

But vampires are cool

[strange python]

I wanna make sure I'm matching up with my sim and details gets all fucky when you vanish

[vestal wren]

comment it out in the apl

is for commenting

[strange python]

I'm a computer moron. Do you just type "#no vanish"?

[vestal wren]

no

you open the report

copy the apl from the profile panel

paste your profile in advanced sim

below type:
copy="no vanish"

paste the apl you copied below

[strange python]

Ty

[vestal wren]

then search for vanish

and add a # in fron of all vanish lines

click "run sim" after

[strange python]

❤️

[vestal wren]

but what is the use case for no vanish ?

vanish is quite a noticable part of the damage esp. if playing subterfuge

in assassinations case you can even just comment out the vanish sublist

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/49SWuRzgi9RNCQuKqsmZXD

^ example

[strange python]

I'm playing MA venth

I just wanna practice matching damage on a dummy and vanish makes it funky

[pseudo hamlet]

About Vanish and being Venthyr+MA:
Do we get max-1 CP and then vanish -> Envenom -> Mutilate -> Envenom (if max-1cP) during the Ven+Flag+probably Shiv/TB window?

[strange python]

And I'm p comfortable playing with vanish normally

Not worried about learning how to do shit, just wanna make sure my rotation is lining up with sim damage

Since I felt p weak in raid last night

[vestal wren]

the sim is with ma

[bleak sky]

check the pins

[pseudo hamlet]

Cannot find it there 🤔

[ebon notch]

@vestal wren any idea how i can sim the different 278 boe cloaks? i tried pulling the simcraft string from wowhead but its only giving me the crit/haste cloak and not the others

[red plaza]

if you're using details, switch it to Dynamic Overall Damage. it will persist through vanish. Or you can log and get data that way

[pseudo hamlet]

Thought that was only for the opener, but I guess Mut -> Envenom -> Mut would be better because of the bonus CPs for the Flag 😄

[bleak sky]

I mean you're vanishing with your cds

don't see how that's different from opener

[pseudo hamlet]

Yeah, that's right. Just saw "opener" and skipped whole paragraph

[vestal wren]

you could just change your gear stats, but thats a bit complicated

but (i hope this is easy to understand)

[ripe gulch]

how good is ooze

trinket

[vestal wren]

if you open the report, then open the "profile" tab you see this at the bottom

you basically can copy the stats you want to change from that

# gear_crit_rating=852
# gear_haste_rating=928
# gear_mastery_rating=388
# gear_versatility_rating=362```in this case

[ebon notch]

i think its easier to just gear compare dungeon cloaks with similar stats at the same ilvl

[vestal wren]

then just modify it to the gear stat changes

if you e.g. lose 10 versa but get 10 mastery for it

you just

copy="new cloak"
gear_versatility_rating=352
gear_mastery_rating=398```

below your /simc of the equipped

unsure if there is a easier way, i don't know how random stats are supported

[steel ridge]

is envenom or ct higher priority in non vendetta windows?

or is it whatever?

[bleak sky]

envenom is just to keep snd up

[normal mist]

Ct to refresh dot

Envenom to keep snd up

[bleak sky]

if snd and ct are about to fall off, you envenom

[steel ridge]

so if i have plenty of snd and no ct, its ct

[bleak sky]

yes

[steel ridge]

the envenom buff doesnt matter?

[bleak sky]

no

[steel ridge]

sad, but ok

just had that sweet first sigil in the vault

and during vendetta is should probably ignore envenom as long as there is snd running

since ct is dropping off instantly it feels like

[normal mist]

Yes

Envenom is now a snd refresher only

[steel ridge]

roger that

my sin profile actually sims higher than sub now

[strange silo]

Hey the snapshotted overhang from vendetta do we let them run out or just refresh in pandemic?

[valid leaf]

How much haste do i need for assa

[normal mist]

Refresh pand I believe can't give you a clear answer in that one

[steel ridge]

you dont need anything, its just a good stat

[steel ridge]

whispyr said you let them run out or refresh in the last possible moment

[valid leaf]

So i shouldnt gave enegry problem as long as i have my bleeds up?

[normal mist]

Yeah pretty much

[strange silo]

alright thanks!

[steel ridge]

haste influence on energy is minor, very minor

[valid leaf]

Sweet

Tought i need haste

So basicly i can play sub gear with assa

[normal mist]

You do

[steel ridge]

well you will figure that haste is a good stat

alot better than versa

but crit and mastery are up there aswell for venthyr

[valid leaf]

Idc i dont feel good as a sub on lords

[steel ridge]

well sub is horrible on lords xD

[strange python]

ofc

[normal mist]

Sim your assa profile with and w/o haste and see the dif for yourself

[steel ridge]

you just spam your ST rotation and hope for proccs

[valid leaf]

Word

[steel ridge]

my assa gear

[valid leaf]

I see

[normal mist]

Not bad actually

[steel ridge]

i actually dropped 10% haste

since crit is simming better

[steel ridge]

was over 30%

[bleak sky]

the worst fight for sub

[valid leaf]

Royal

[bleak sky]

by far

sub is THE worst 2t dps in the game

[rotund oak]

ive got 39% crit without FCM

[normal mist]

Thanos would be happy with my stats

[rotund oak]

[valid leaf]

And one more thing

Shif off cooldown no matter the situtation right?

[normal mist]

Pretty much yes

[valid leaf]

Shiv*

[steel ridge]

yep, it will get available during vendetta either way

[bleak sky]

ehhhh

[normal mist]

The less you hold it the more cast you get during a fight

[bleak sky]

you get to shiv with cds / shiv off cds / shiv with cds

[steel ridge]

just do all the shivs

[bleak sky]

"Simply put you want to use this combo everytime these 4 aforementioned abilities are ready: Flag - Env/Rup - MFD - CT - Vend - Shiv"

so you want to have shiv for your vend

[woeful wigeon]

is there a haste cap we seek now for the bleed and energie so we can use vendetta more often with the NF build

[bleak sky]

no haste cap

your stats don't matter

sim your gear

[woeful wigeon]

sims are sims man i prefer real time action

[steel ridge]

#showtooltip
/use The First Sigil
/use Potion of Spectral Agility

does that work?

[bleak sky]

my man really just said that

[viscid spear]

Somewhere Whispyr is having a minor aneurysm.

[bleak sky]

[gusty mirage]

I’m here having one

[woeful wigeon]

cause if we have more energie regen we can drag vendetta instead of me getting 17sec cd wanne see if i can reach insta vendetta again one after another

[viscid spear]

[gusty mirage]

You can’t

[normal mist]

100% vendetta uptime?

[gusty mirage]

There’s no shot in hell that you’d reduce vendetta’s CD by that much considering we have a set GCD that isn’t hasted

[viscid spear]

y'all talking about 4pc and how it affects the rotation, meanwhile I'm sitting here with 2pc

[gusty mirage]

All the energy regen in the universe won’t fix that

[woeful wigeon]

atm after the sepsies rotation at start of fight i got 17sec cd on next vendetta

[bleak sky]

next week ash

[viscid spear]

Well I have a 275 chest ready to change, and I'm optimistic about Lords tonight.

[woeful wigeon]

just wondering if we can drag it insta back of cd

[bleak sky]

no

can't

[woeful wigeon]

you do you know

you no so

did you try

i mean

[viscid spear]

[woeful wigeon]

remeber bfa

[bleak sky]

no

[woeful wigeon]

exanguinate build

same shit now

[bleak sky]

can't remember what I haven't played

[woeful wigeon]

then dont SAY NO

[gusty mirage]

Vendetta is a 2 minute CD, it lasts 20 seconds. You’re telling me that in 20 globals you’re spending enough energy (at 1s cdr per 30 energy spent) to reduce vendetta down to 17s?

[marble hemlock]

Dude. Its literally mathematically impossible.

[odd heath]

You can't. That's it

[viscid spear]

I remember Exsanguinate build.
I went Sub.

[marble hemlock]

You can do the math yourself. In order to reduce the CD by 100sec, you'd have to spend 3000 energy in 20 GCDs. That means every second youd have to not only generate but also spend 150 energy. Since our highest cost ability is Mutilate at 55, it is literally impossible. By a big margin.

[odd heath]

Seli was faster, was also doing the math lol

[viscid spear]

This guy playing with Expedient 3's still somehow

[woeful wigeon]

if only this was real

[marble hemlock]

You could generate 1000 energy a second and still wouldn't be able to drop the CD below ~40sec because you simply can't spend more energy than that

[viscid spear]

Your scenario seems to imply it is

[bleak sky]

but their vendetta is at 17 seconds seli

[gusty mirage]

Maybe with Urh

[viscid spear]

True, but wouldn't he specify it was in M+?

[odd heath]

And benevolent fairie

[gusty mirage]

[gusty mirage]

Yeah it’d have to be giga chad timing with urh alone to pull that one off

[viscid spear]

This dude stacking all this stuff to get a 17sec Vend? 😵‍💫

[marble hemlock]

Still won't be enough

The limit is the amount of energy you can spend in a GCD

[odd heath]

I think the best situation I had without externals, I had vendetta up in about 50sec after the first use

[viscid spear]

There's no way you can pull two groups with the orbs and kill two Urhs, right?

[woeful wigeon]

again i drop at 17 sec

[marble hemlock]

What is anyone supposed to be looking at?

[normal mist]

XDDDD

[viscid spear]

This is a simulation, wake up Seli

[normal mist]

M+? Raid? Logs so we can check?

[marble hemlock]

What do people not understand about the word impossible

[normal mist]

But he says it's possible

Dude

:c

[marble hemlock]

But it's not. End of story.

This is "I totally get 4 Garrotes into my Subterfuge window every time" all over again

[gusty mirage]

Man what a throwback

[normal mist]

I guess everyone knows that but that's why I want to see how or when he pulled that off

[marble hemlock]

He didn't.

[viscid spear]

What's the CD on Sepsis?

[marble hemlock]

Since it is literally impossible

[normal mist]

1.5 I believe

[gusty mirage]

Yup, unless the target dies then it’s 1min iirc

[normal mist]

Exactly

Or dispelled!

[vestal wren]

only if it dies while its active

but would be pog if you always get the cdr even if it did run out

[raven vapor]

should we be using sepsis on cd regardless of if we are going to be able to stand in blossoms?

[marble hemlock]

Having Vendetta at 17sec CD left when it expires is literally impossible without Urh and/or Fairy, as you'd need to spend 67.297 energy/second to get that much CDR.

[viscid spear]

Is this what he wanted us to see?

[normal mist]

Yes

[bleak sky]

you gotta read the sepsis book friend

[raven vapor]

?

[viscid spear]

He was also hitting a dummy

[bleak sky]

#assassination message

was searching for it

[viscid spear]

So in this image, Sepsis has 41sec left and Vendetta has 17sec.
Since he did it on a dummy it obviously does not die, so the CD on Sepsis would not be 1min, but 1.5min
Meaning he took this screenshot 49sec after Sepsis hit.

My brain hurts

[raven vapor]

thanks, it doesn't directly mention blossoms though. For example if i'm in the middle of movement yet i know the boss is going to stand still in 15 seconds for the duration of field of blossoms is it worth holding (potentially multiple times a fight) or does the dps loss from potentially 1 less cast of sepsis outweigh the gain of multiple blossoms?

[bleak sky]

blossoms is whatever

[ebon notch]

dont play around blossoms

ever

[bleak sky]

if you get to stand on it, great, fantastic

[ebon notch]

sepsis will do more damage than the haste you get from standing in blossoms

[bleak sky]

if you don't, doesn't matter

[raven vapor]

that's all i needed to hear, thanks 🙂

[buoyant rivet]

hello guys i'm a newbite of the rouge

i wanna start play mainly rouge, can u suggest me to play assa for mythic plus?

or should i play sub?

[limber lion]

You should play Sub for m+

[brazen zodiac]

dont listen to him live your best life

[buoyant rivet]

only sub?

[limber lion]

Yes, only Sub

[bleak sky]

sub is the best rogue spec for M+

[brazen zodiac]

jk this is absolutely miserable

[steel ridge]

fae guardian

[bleak sky]

the other 2 are pretty garbage

[brazen zodiac]

hi minal

[limber lion]

If you're starting out now, just play Sub

[bleak sky]

sup vita

[brazen zodiac]

sad cuz sin in m+

[limber lion]

Once you've gotten comfortable with one or two specs, then you can make the choice

[buoyant rivet]

thanks guys so i'll swithc to sub chat

[limber lion]

but for now stick to sub

[buoyant rivet]

switch*

[limber lion]

👋

peace

[brazen zodiac]

been runnin dos over for partner can only seem to do like 12k-14k overall

meanwhile they had 20k+

zzz

[timber socket]

with 4 set how is prio? garrote =rupter > CT?

[limber lion]

in ST or AoE?

[brazen zodiac]

do i activate sub and cry

[timber socket]

ST

[limber lion]

You always maintain 100% uptime on garrote and rupture. You try to maintain CT as much as possible, but if it drops it's fine

Never let garrote/rupture drop.

[fallow canopy]

with sin in m+ you have bragging rights, I have shit rating but I'm still the 4th sin rogue on my server on the alliance

[timber socket]

kk just trying on dummies im almost like 100% uptime on everything but due to lack off buss here its a wee bit sketchy

buffs*

[steel ridge]

CT dot is almost as strong as rupture judging from the tooltip, it should overtake it in priority as soon as there is another target

[limber lion]

Correct, in 2T CT takes over in priority

However, that only applies if you have both garrotes up and at least one rupture up

Rupture is still the superior spell because it also gives you energy regen

[steel ridge]

oh right, rup and gar give energy

[limber lion]

CT does not.

[timber socket]

thanks my guys

[limber lion]

Good luck

[timber socket]

seems pretty easy just need to get used to not using the exact same opener as i have for a year now

[limber lion]

You'll get used to the new opener fairly quickly

[timber socket]

another one, do i hold venetta for like 10 sec if flag is comming up?

[steel ridge]

yes

you should always pair them

[timber socket]

what is the breakpoint there?

[steel ridge]

if you get enough stacks on flag, you shouldnt be waiting much

[wide ridge]

this does not apply for snapshot garrotes/ruptures right, you let them finish and then apply a new one

[timber socket]

no you just wanna hit them at like 0.5 sec right

[limber lion]

Correct, it's fine to reapply them at 1s.

[wide ridge]

oh gotcha

ty

[limber lion]

Doesn't really matter if it's 0-1s

[steel ridge]

if you screw up flagellation, you are fucked

[limber lion]

but you def want to reapply as soon as it drops or just slightly before.

[limber lion]

Always sync them.

[rotund oak]

noted

[limber lion]

That's the breakpoint.

[timber socket]

might sound dumb but how tf do you screw up flag

[steel ridge]

if you have to play a mechanic

[timber socket]

oh yeh

[limber lion]

Yeh Flag requires uptime

rotationally it's nothing really

[timber socket]

i was like you dont have to play it specially just fucking pump, but i see what you mean

[limber lion]

you just finish mfd finish and carry on with your life

[steel ridge]

you kinda need your 30 stacks for it to function properly

[limber lion]

Nah

More often than not you'll get less than 30 stacks

[steel ridge]

29 most of the time

[limber lion]

getting 25-29 is completely fine and doesn't really change anything

yep

[steel ridge]

well it changes that you wait 5 seconds longer for it to line up with vendetta

which is horrible for impatient outlaw mains

[rotund oak]

I was having guilt for doing 27

thank albert einstein im not crazy

[limber lion]

yeh you're chilling

dw

[fallow canopy]

hit a 93% parse on xy'mox yesterday with 2p only feelsgoodman

[limber lion]

good stuff, grats

free 99's with 4p

[steel ridge]

honestly, i kinda was looking forward to playing assa again, to chill out a bit

[limber lion]

soon(tm)

[steel ridge]

but fuck this its heckin frantic during vendetta

[fallow canopy]

at least I'll get a 100% piece next week

[limber lion]

I love it

[stiff plank]

hey folks, i need ur advise. Got first sigil hc and the ooze trinket on 278 in vault today. I main assa in raid but i do a lot of m+ with sub? cant decide which one to pick. Also sims telling me some quite strange things, dont know if i did it correctly

[limber lion]

Have you ran your heroic/normal clears this week yet?

[steel ridge]

not gonna lie, i didnt expect that, even tho i was rocking the expedient exsanguinate build last addon

[limber lion]

I would maybe recommend just clearing the raid first before making that choice.

[stiff plank]

thats a good advice

[limber lion]

Yep, I really enjoy it. The haste-snapshotting thing is kind of dumb imo, but otherwise it feels really good

That's what I'm doing as well!

Just holding off until we clear and then getting the item I want

[wide ridge]

you think they'll fix the snapshot thing?

[ripe gulch]

cev, is it worth to use valor to upgrade indivisible ooze?

[steel ridge]

the haste snapshotting only means we have to refresh at the end of vendetta, or try to

right?

[ripe gulch]

i know its extreme cope but i cant get a phial

to save my life

[limber lion]

No, we've had similar things in the past. Would be difficult to fix and kind of unnecessary.

[fading mason]

Does Vendetta change the pandemic window of All the dots too or does for exaple a 5cp rupture still is in pandemic at 8sec left

[wide ridge]

I see

[limber lion]

Not quite, it's very very technical and the snapshotting has nothing to do with the overhang at the end

Even if there was no snapshotting on the Vendetta, you'd still want to refresh rupture/garrote at the end to take advantage of the overhang

The snapshotting refers to bleeds updating their tick rates on application.

[steel ridge]

yeah i read your sticky like 8 times but i still cant wrap my head around it and if i am doing it right

[limber lion]

So let's say you have Vendetta up and 23% haste. You apply Rupture. Your Rupture is now ticking at 23% haste tick rate.

Let's say you proc Euphoria for 20% more haste, and now you're at 43% haste. Instead of Rupture automatically ticking faster, it still ticks at 23% haste

But once you reapply it, it will update to tick at the 43% tick rate instead until it falls off or is reapplied

[steel ridge]

oh i thought the bleeds kinda updated on the fly

[ripe gulch]

snapshotting has been in the game since forever

[limber lion]

Even if you're at 43% haste when you apply and then your haste drops down to 10%, the bleed will continue to tick at 43% tick rate

[wide ridge]

wait i thought they updated it as they go

[limber lion]

Yeah exactly

[steel ridge]

and only the vendetta 100% buff snapshotted

[wide ridge]

weird

[limber lion]

That's the snapshotting part

Where it doesn't automatically update

And that only applies during the 4p vendetta

[ripe gulch]

wouldnt make sense if only the vendetta bleeds snapshotted

[limber lion]

normally all bleeds would dynamically update their tick rate.

[wide ridge]

ahhhh

[limber lion]

Snapshotting can be a dps loss as well, if you think about it

[ripe gulch]

yep

just play best boy theo with haste tea

[steel ridge]

but apparently thats exactly the case here

[limber lion]

Like you might get a haste buff, but you don't take advantage of it by refreshing bleeds and miss out on a juiced bleed.

[limber lion]

I think he's referring to other things in the game, like Feral bleeds still snapshotting, Nightstalker, Exsanguinate and so on

As in, it's not a new mechanic

[ripe gulch]

if you get a haste buff with your rupture up the rupture you have up doesnt get updated right?

or does it

[limber lion]

Outside of Vendetta, it does

[ripe gulch]

oh wtf

i thought it didnt

[limber lion]

All bleeds update dynamically

[steel ridge]

so 4p throws the physics out of the window and says snapshot baby

[limber lion]

Yep

So previously you never had to think about haste tick rates or anything else

but now you kinda have to think about it a bit

There's not that much you can or have to do to take advantage of it

[steel ridge]

yeah so all there is to it is update bleeds during vendetta as you do normally and try to get extra overwrites just before vendetta drops

[limber lion]

because we still have very strict rules in how and when we want to reapply bleeds

but you can definitely take advantage of stuff like Euphoria

[ripe gulch]

but if you press vendetta with the bleeds already up they u+date right?

nvm thats a stupid question

opener would be different

[limber lion]

If you press Vendetta with the bleeds, then they get snapshot

[steel ridge]

cause during vendetta i kinda struggle to do anything other than maintaining 3 bleeds

[limber lion]

And would snapshot the current tick rate

And that would continue to be the case for all bleeds applied during the Vendetta

[fading mason]

Does Vendetta4p change the pandemic window of All the dots too or does for exaaple a 5cp rupture still is in pandemic at 8sec left

[limber lion]

Yes, it halves them.

So Rupture is 3.6s and garrote is 2.7s

[wide ridge]

ct is like 2 right

[limber lion]

Yep

[ripe gulch]

its kinda hard to update them on pandemic, especially ct

during vendetta

[fading mason]

Having the same Problem to

[ripe gulch]

i think im having a stroke wtf am i typing

[limber lion]

lmao

[stiff plank]

is there a wa, which changes the pandemic notification depending wether ur in vendetta or not?

[limber lion]

You can update your own weakauras to do that.

[fading mason]

Trying to Do that atm but it's a pain

[steel ridge]

its probably ok to just ignore envenom completely during vendetta and just put up any bleeds you can, even if you arent in pandemic

risk is to high that mutilate fucks you over and ct drops

[limber lion]

Just add a trigger to check for Vendetta, and then apply a new condition for if Vendetta is applied, then glow at 2.7 and 3.6

[wide ridge]

remember envenom glory in 9.1?

[steel ridge]

wow i need that

[ebon notch]

my wa just refused to recognise the new conditions

like absolutely nothing changed no matter what

[limber lion]

I'm considering just uploading my gar/rup weakauras to wago so I can link them here

[wide ridge]

pls do

[sour citrus]

Ladies and gents, would like to ask and help me improve (or the lack of) my sorry ass, as I feel that I am shaming us sin rogues with my dps. Please help https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RXL8tnDKdPA1qv29/

[ebon notch]

will pay

[limber lion]

even though they're part of Afenar's kit, just updated to match the new shenanigans

[sour citrus]

Please do

[steel ridge]

thats what afenars is set to

for rupture

[limber lion]

yeah that's not quite accurate

[stiff plank]

well im fucked^^

[steel ridge]

so its 7,2 and 5,4 regularly?

[limber lion]

I'll upload my gar/rup weakauras in a bit

[steel ridge]

thats great

[drowsy parcel]

its 6 sec for 4cp rupture

[ripe gulch]

you pressed vendetta too early

looks like you have i macrod to flag

never do that

also you spam the fuck out of envenom in vendetta window

most i do is envenom once

and then back to reapplying dots

mainly garrote

should be out by then

[sour citrus]

I do not have it macroed. I'm just dumb

[ripe gulch]

ct has prio over envenom

[ripe gulch]

oh you right, theres 0.5 sec difference between casts

[steel ridge]

isnt it 25% of max duration? 5cp rupture is 24 seconds

[limber lion]

it's 30%

[ripe gulch]

only after ct do you vendetta

[sour citrus]

So when vanish, its mut then ct over env, but what about the 2nd mut? Still ct??

[steel ridge]

well my pandemic glow was fucked up for a long time then

[ripe gulch]

so like

opener is

[steel ridge]

do pandemic windows change if applied with less than max cp? or is it always dependent on max duration

[last cipher]

he doesnt have 4 set it looks like, so he should be able to get more than 1 envenoms in during the vend window right?

[raven vapor]

that's my Afenar

[sour citrus]

I dont have 4 set only 3/4

[ripe gulch]

Mutilate > Slice > Mutilate > Garrote > Flagellation > Rupture > Marked for Death > Crimson Tempest > Vendetta > Shiv > Vanish > Mutilate > Envenom > Mutilate > Envenom

[raven vapor]

with trigger 2 being Vendetta ofc

[ripe gulch]

you get 2 envenoms max basically

then reapply garrote and ct

[wide ridge]

where shiv

[ripe gulch]

fuck

[drowsy parcel]

they change depending on the new duration, a 4cp rupture add a max of 6 seconds to the duration from an existing rupture, a 5cp rupture adds 7.2

how long the old one were doesnt matter

[sour citrus]

I do that, I think. Sometimes, it doesn't land and I have to improvise to prop up energy to execute other missed spell

[ripe gulch]

improvise to prop up energy?

wdym by that

[solid venture]

Ct is pretty much back in pandemic by the time you get to cast the second envenom after vanish, wouldn't it be better to cast CT instead of letting it drop

[ripe gulch]

the rotation should always be the same

everytime you have vendetta and flagellation off cooldown

you build to 3 or 4 combo points

and then start the rotation from garrote

into flag

into rup

and so on

[sour citrus]

Yea, when and if rupture didnt land but already have triggered flag, will hit vendetta to get energy then rup, mfd, ct, shiv, vanish

[ebon notch]

shiv overrated dw

[ripe gulch]

you shouldnt use vendetta as a way to get energy

[ebon notch]

should see in pvp when i dot up the hunter and he cleanses my bleeds

[ripe gulch]

on your opener it can be a while before you get your first garrote, but you are wasting vendetta time if you vendetta early

[wide ridge]

fuck shiv wheres my toxic blade enthusiasts

[sour citrus]

Understood, just wait for energy to build up ans assume accordingly.

[ripe gulch]

yessir

and/or ma'am

[sour citrus]

Understood Mother Goose 😅

Apart from that, I feel like my dps couldn't go up. It stays around 6-7k dps and at my current ilvl gear, should be doing more

[ripe gulch]

well, just on your opener there are many mistakes

from what i saw

improve on those

[limber lion]

@steel ridge @stiff plank @sour citrus @ebon notch @wide ridge https://wago.io/rk2kEs76d

[ripe gulch]

for example using quantum device 17 seconds into the fight

[sour citrus]

Understood, will practise mote to get the flow better

[ripe gulch]

practice on the dummy

[steel ridge]

@limber lion no ct ?

[sour citrus]

I kinda figured that as a smack to the head after tonight.

[ripe gulch]

in venthyr cov hall

hmm also

you dont have 4 piece

but you're playing duskwalker

[limber lion]

I don't really track CT's pandemic because the pandemic is so low and not as important

Reapplying at 2s or less is fine at all times.

[sour citrus]

I am?? Wait

[steel ridge]

ok

[ripe gulch]

i would like to see cev logs, but they hidden

to see how he plays fights

[stiff plank]

much love to you!

[sour citrus]

Oh my dumb ass self!!!!

[steel ridge]

perfect cev, just put it into my afenars and it works like a charm

[limber lion]

Just make sure to delete the old Afenar weak auras and you're gucci

[steel ridge]

just set it to never load in case i need a backup

[limber lion]

Yup

[steel ridge]

so you always set pandemic to 7.2 and 3.6 seconds for rupture, regardless if its 4cp or 5cp right?

[limber lion]

Correct, because the higher pandemic works for all the lower ones as well

[steel ridge]

good

no idea why the standard afenar sets rupture to 8.4 (6cp) and garrote to 6 seconds

probably just misinformation then

[limber lion]

Yeah, it's a bit rushed

[rotund oak]

Cev how the F did u do that https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/29/#difficulty=4&class=Rogue&spec=Assassination&boss=2544

[limber lion]

Quite a few things are a bit off

[rotund oak]

how can u do more dam with 1 legendary

than all of them

[limber lion]

Hah idk

It was a cheeky pug from like 3 weeks ago

my gear is super bad as well

[rotund oak]

wait what bug

[limber lion]

pug

not bug

[ebon notch]

works perfect cev tyty

[limber lion]

npnp

[rotund oak]

oh sorry

[bleak sky]

gear is super bad -> massive trinket, 278 tier legs, 278 dagger, early 4p

[rotund oak]

u must have juiced an omega vanish on burn phase

idk any other way it can happen

[limber lion]

well in comparison to current gear

it was super great 3 weeks ago

not so much anymore

[bleak sky]

you're still kinda giga geared

[rotund oak]

still rank 1

wdym

😄

[limber lion]

I'm super duper geared

[wide ridge]

ty mr cev

[limber lion]

np

but yeah, I have a choice of 278 dagger or 278 boots from vault

gonna wait until tomorrow to see if I can get either or from Mythic

[craggy oak]

The self control of this man

[ebon notch]

i got 278 gloves but nothing else in vault was an upgrade

[limber lion]

278 tier gloves next week

ez

[rotund oak]

got omegachest from vault with 75 avoidance on it

[ebon notch]

🥄

[rotund oak]

get on ym lvl

[jovial spear]

Can someone link Cevs plater profile?

[limber lion]

https://wago.io/gf0Dg_Ujr

[jovial spear]

Ty! 🙂

[wide ridge]

wait i'm a pepega, how do you put a group of WA inside another pack of WAs? like the one cev made

do i have to create another group or what

[limber lion]

No, just drag the weakauras from the group I made inside of your WA group

[wide ridge]

oh i am in fact a pepega

ty

[limber lion]

They're in a group so it's easier to import/export.

[wide ridge]

worked like a charm, tyvm

[steel ridge]

@limber lion how do you open on pantheon?

[limber lion]

gar sbs gar slice sbs mutilate rup vend shiv

something like that

[steel ridge]

ah no i am venthyr, rip

not gonna switch between bosses for heroic clear

[limber lion]

Ah just do your single target opener on one dude then

garrote 2nd target when garrote is ready

[steel ridge]

thought so

just blast one of them

[wide ridge]

just switch during trash clear and ask for summ

[limber lion]

Yeh

[hollow nexus]

Do we use the stealth ability that we can use after sepsis as NF?

i suck at paying attention to when i can use it so pretty much just forget about it

[bleak sky]

you ambush, ye

[limber lion]

Yes, we use the Ambush that you get but it's not giga if you miss it

[hollow nexus]

okay gonna have to start paying attention to it then 😛

[grim tangle]

is this updated to change pandemic timers during vendetta

[limber lion]

No, that's what the weakauras are for

but I guess I should update it as well, not that it matters too much

[grim tangle]

I was just asking, I updated my plater for it, but I had no idea what I was doing so the code is probably terrible

[limber lion]

Doesn't matter, as long as it works :P

What did you do?

[grim tangle]

just looks at every single debuff on the unit and if one of them is vendetta it changes the timer for the glow

[oak sky]

The plater pandemic tracker i use in my profile is tracking correctly somehow

[limber lion]

That's interesting, can you show the code you used for that?

[grim tangle]

I'm at work but I can just send you the script later

[limber lion]

sick

[normal mist]

sick... my 272 dagger OH beats the 278 dagger from vault

how is that normal

[sour citrus]

Cev, apologies, I'm getting compression errors, cant load it

[rotund oak]

Does the first sigil lose value with CT+3P Theotar?

asking coz it sims lower for me than FCM/HC Cache

the poor 2p sim https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7AQcVivMeEZqgTvr9SE998

[ebon notch]

tried to shroud my tanks closer to the boss on skolex and they refused to get any closer

and then they pulled and i got oneshot

[oak sky]

Mine usually stay mounted

And i cant tricks them

[ebon notch]

im literally shrouding them in

just get closer ffs

[oak sky]

Only rogues and ferals know dude

[rotund oak]

log on your opposite function rogue and gank them till they alt-f4

thats what i do

[limber lion]

sigil only good with 4p+

[rotund oak]

poggers thx

noted

[limber lion]

have you updated your plater? should work fine

[native belfry]

Do we refresh CT during vendetta?

[oak sky]

Yes

[bleak sky]

have you raided yet agreon?

[oak sky]

Yes

Benched for sausage reclear tonight

[bleak sky]

[oak sky]

Idrc

[bleak sky]

no no

[subtle tundra]

sausage is shit loot anyways

[bleak sky]

sadge because that prob means tierless still

[oak sky]

I should be in for pantheon prog

No

[bleak sky]

OH

[oak sky]

Im tierful

[bleak sky]

[oak sky]

[bleak sky]

POG

massive

[kindred rapids]

[oak sky]

I got the shoulders

No traders

Natty

On our heroic reclear

Last in guild

[kindred rapids]

rogue is actually great for sausage imo

[oak sky]

Big if true

We already killed it

And i dont need loot on it

At least not badly

[kindred rapids]

can cloak every other ring, blink or door the rest

ah I see

[raven vapor]

Necro - Using Heirmir over Marileth? (from faq)

[oak sky]

Heirmir is for consistent long term cleave/aoe necro is for add resets and higher st

[kindred rapids]

sausage is still kinda tough for us

took us an hour or so to reclear last night

[raven vapor]

So by that logic, Marileth is best for guardian where we're cleaving off of the boss?

[oak sky]

Yeah hopefully it takes us a while

[oak sky]

Yes

Also you get giga resets so kevin is like 90%+ uptime

[kindred rapids]

why hopefully lol

[oak sky]

Because then i can have a break

[kindred rapids]

rofl

[oak sky]

If im sat i want my break

[oak sky]

But then like on LOD or pantheon heirmir will likely perform better

[normal mist]

im now a proud 4/4

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7bc2UDsM6RCVTpiBfPbUEu

[mossy moon]

For ST is venth or NF best with 4p?

[rotund oak]

venth

[balmy condor]

Venth

Painfully

[rotund oak]

also

[rotund oak]

❤️

[mossy moon]

ah wasnt NF bis like a week ago? tf

[balmy condor]

Pins

[storm belfry]

but not by a lot right

[balmy condor]

Correct

[storm belfry]

okay was worried it has been improved and is now substantially higher

no lie since i just do keys on muh rogue alt ima just be a necro boy unless they need venth

[balmy condor]

Venthyr has to play CT and MFD and MA in order for the whole build to even be an upgrade

God I fucking hate it

[mossy moon]

Is this build with MFB and CT only good with first sigil or?

[balmy condor]

No

Trinkets are irrelevant

It’s just better

[mossy moon]

MFD CT and MA

holy shit

[red plaza]

It’s nice being lazy though and just running venth assa with the same talents throughout the raid

[mossy moon]

how many envenoms do you aim to get in shiv window then?

[serene shell]

If im planning on using assa on multi target fights only should I just craft mastery/crit on leggo?

[halcyon zealot]

irrelevant

[balmy condor]

0 because we never aim for any number

[balmy condor]

You can but it won’t really matter too much

[mossy moon]

Ahaaa ty

[balmy condor]

From the faq as well

[strange python]

Not like 4set sub is any fun either

Really hate the playstyle of both specs this patch.

[oak sky]

My aoe highrolls on sub go brazy fr

[strange python]

I only play for raid tho

And the slight delay on 4set procs makes kyrian aids

[oak sky]

Dont we all

[balmy condor]

4 set sin is fun on necro and fae

4 set sub is fun in m+

[strange python]

I really liked the sin playstyle of SoD :/ just wanted frost set impact and rng removed

[oak sky]

Cosmic hero whíspyr when?

[balmy condor]

Never

I’m on my joker arc

We’re deleting secondaries and venthyr

[oak sky]

Mastery

Dude

I simmed gems

And vers was highest with venthyr 4p

When i put on dusk*

[balmy condor]

@subtle tundra did you have to sub to his patreon to run keys?

[subtle tundra]

whos?

[sour citrus]

changed it, huge difference. I am so stupid for running with duskwalker, got blinded by ilvl

[bleak sky]

the hunter with paid sims

[balmy condor]

Azor obviously

The only theorycrafter that paywalls sims

[kindred rapids]

The APL is paywalled?

[subtle tundra]

i dont know anything about that

[gusty mirage]

Yeah he has his sims behind a Patreon

[spice spire]

Miss these days yet, papi?

[gusty mirage]

Good afternoon @spice spire hope you’re having a blessed day and George is being given all the pets and treats

[spice spire]

He has to be given calming treats. Move has kicked in his fear of abandonment 😦

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

But I appreciate your well wishes @gusty mirage I hope you’re enjoying your glorious holiday sir

And feasting well while you can

[kindred rapids]

what tier slots are bis I need to know before catalyst opens

[gusty mirage]

Been eating and sleeping like shit baybay the oxi special

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

The 4 that aren’t Helm

[gusty mirage]

Yes

[spice spire]

Yes

Twinsies

[kindred rapids]

lol

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[glass tulip]

boe cape, thoughts?

[balmy condor]

It’s a cape that has stats and ilvl and might sim higher compared to a cape with other stats and not that ilvl

[glass tulip]

good thoughts

[spice spire]

So true, bestie.

[glass tulip]

actually I take that back, I got skolex cape last night so the mastery stacking dream is alive

[winter vapor]

DS pulls ahed generally with necro with 4pc, or before?

[spice spire]

🛑

[spice spire]

DS means 5 different things

I assume you mean deeper?

[glass tulip]

im going to assume deeper strat

[winter vapor]

yes apologies

[spice spire]

It pulls ahead when it pulls ahead

It may happen before

[oak sky]

hope george feels better soon

[spice spire]

Nothing the ol raidbot can’t figure out

[spice spire]

He will once he realizes he’s moving. He just has an intense fear of abandonment

I’d never leave the homie.

[oak sky]

Good guy quake, friend of dogs

[spice spire]

He was abandoned as a pup

Just like courage 😦

[oak sky]

Courage the cowardly dog

?

[glass tulip]

courage had every right to have anxiety, did you see the size of the spiders that crawled out of the shower head

I had nightmares about that shit for years

[oak sky]

Idk if i ever saw the show

Maybe a few times

I'm a little young for it

[glass tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/couragethecowardlydog-themask-coffee-gif-5055468

straight nightmare fuel

[oak sky]

Is it mdi tr rn btw

[ripe gulch]

its so weird

that sin feels better on anduin than sub

[balmy condor]

Ye

[ripe gulch]

at least to me

[glass tulip]

get that banner

dont you only have to time 15s

[oak sky]

I dont have a squad

And its just a toy idrx

[spice spire]

Yeah. But like we found him at 6 months old on a friend’s land. And he was very domesticated so he straight up was abandoned for a few months. Sad shit for such a GOAT. But their loss is my gain, got a homie for life

Anyway, back to pandemic window

[oak sky]

D: im not a dog person but thats really sad

[glass tulip]

got exalted with the enlightened so back to content drought

[oak sky]

Im like 16k rep or so

Havent done the weekly yet

[glass tulip]

time to get aquainted with ember court

[gusty mirage]

Nah bro farm cyphers and get crafting materials and make the pets and mounts

[glass tulip]

I have 900 cyphers

console already maxed

[gusty mirage]

That’s one box

Of like 12 motes

Huge

[glass tulip]

where do you buy boxes for cyphers?

[gusty mirage]

If you did all the optional shit there’ll be a jiru dude outside of the console area

[glass tulip]

also I vendored all of my mount items lol

[gusty mirage]

He sells an item for 150 cyphers to send to alts to increase the drop rate of the cyphers too

Which is kinda neat

Cuz 252 cypher gear is kinda nice for gearing an alt

[glass tulip]

yeah but you need to upgrade each alts console to get to 252?

[gusty mirage]

Yeah

[bleak sky]

just faster to do keys and gear the alt

[gusty mirage]

Luckily once it’s maxed on a main, the research is insta for alts

[glass tulip]

I just spend anima to start at 226 and key from there

[spice spire]

Amen

[gusty mirage]

Oxiclap is now 262 ilvl, with 0 tier

[spice spire]

Rat bdk alt running 10s on grievous week

Was great shit

[bleak sky]

Minalbaint is 248 with ONE tier piece

[spice spire]

/s

[bleak sky]

depresso

[oak sky]

Agreonicy hardstuck 242

[glass tulip]

tfw your main is 267

[gusty mirage]

Catalyst opens up next week boys all our problems are solved

[oak sky]

Main 270 out here

[spice spire]

Quakewar 249 2 piece gaming
Quakethree 239 1p
Main is 270

4p GAMING

[bleak sky]

your main is higher ilvl than mine

[gusty mirage]

Your rogue’s higher ilvl than mine

[spice spire]

I got 278 helm so I could drop the 239 pants

[bleak sky]

Minalbasap is sitting at a comfy 267 ilvl

[oak sky]

I need to finish leveling my dk

Start prepping for 925

[gusty mirage]

268.8 here

[spice spire]

My gear is ratty rn tho

[oak sky]

Cant wait to play dk in mythic nathria like it should be

[spice spire]

269.5 technically

[gusty mirage]

With the still nerfed amz?

Yuge

[glass tulip]

feels so bad to be running duskwalkers + 246 CoS ring

[brazen zodiac]

f

[gusty mirage]

262 crafted should sim higher

[oak sky]

I ditched the ring

[gusty mirage]

At least for me

[oak sky]

Finally

[glass tulip]

it didnt

[ripe gulch]

feast or haste food?

[glass tulip]

I use 262 neck instead of H KT neck

[gusty mirage]

Feast always

Primary stat >>>> secondaries

[oak sky]

I have 278 bloodoath + dusk

[spice spire]

I finally got a 262 SGT to replace the FCM

262 Pf ring + socket

[oak sky]

I have halondrus trinket

[glass tulip]

272 phial + fcm

ilvl is crying

[oak sky]

252 phial still

[gusty mirage]

Any first sigil gamers in chat?

[oak sky]

I wish

[spice spire]

272 phia + 262 SGT

[spice spire]

Tonight

[gusty mirage]

Same

[kindred rapids]

272 phial + FS

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

[kindred rapids]

Now just gotta get to pantheon mythic

[glass tulip]

YEP

[bleak sky]

looking at my gear rn

it's depresso

[spice spire]

First sigil is a light 221 dps gain

[bleak sky]

haven't gotten a single decent ring

[viscid spear]

265 Earthbreaker + 272 SGT

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

Yeah the tier bonuses do that to me too

[kindred rapids]

meh we don't use rings anyways

[bleak sky]

[oak sky]

Is cos in the rotation

For tw

[kindred rapids]

next week yeah

[oak sky]

Bruh

I dont want to grind cos and vault all week

Dont have time

Oh well

Ill make time from nowhere

[spice spire]

Faulty isn’t as good as it was last season

First sigil + faulty is like +40 over FS+phial for me

[viscid spear]

Rolling through Legion M+ to get minor upgrades

[oak sky]

Yeah double on use isnt worth for that amount of dps im ngl

[spice spire]

Running a rat gear compare rn

Oh nvm it’s -70 for me from first

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kuanM4dN1b7JuDm5obthRE

Gear compare isn’t exact , I have vigor on currently yada yada yada

Take it with a grain of salt

[oak sky]

My brother in christ thats a blessed sim

No faulty

[spice spire]

Saving you mental anguish

[oak sky]

But iqd

[spice spire]

IQD is a gain iirc

For me currently

[granite pumice]

so I'm rolling with CT now instead of poison bomb as most of the raid is a multi target nightmare and I'm having issues keeping bleeds up and CT too.. should I treat CT like a if I can sorta thing on normal rotations or any other tips you guys might have when it comes to juggling all that stuff across multiple targets?

[kindred rapids]

necro ST

[spice spire]

2 pure ST fights in raid

Casual guild, prog not a thing. Otherwise would go NF or venthyr blah blah blah

[kindred rapids]

Every fight is a ST fight if you want it to be

[granite pumice]

metal crab and desausage

[kindred rapids]

Minus pantheon and lod 😂

[granite pumice]

sorry.. thats what we call them lol

[spice spire]

Assuming 4p here?

[granite pumice]

yeah 4pc

I've been going with posion bomb just out of ease/comfort but I'm trying to min/max a bit more and struggling with CT

[slow marsh]

CT > envenom yes it's important to keep it up

[spice spire]

Yeah so keep it up as much as humanly possible.
Finisher priority:
Snd > Rupture to start> envenom to keep Snd up > rupture in pandemic > CT in pandemic > envenom

So if you’re dropping snd to maintain ct, it’s wrong. Just drop the CT time; maintain Snd, then aim after. If you plan appropriately you’ll be fine (I am bad and don’t)

[ripe gulch]

in 2 targets necro you never even cast envenom

[kindred rapids]

Shouldn't keeping snd up be the top priority

[ripe gulch]

on vendetta window

[kindred rapids]

Not that you ever have to choose between keeping snd and rupture up on 1 target

[spice spire]

Fixed it to clarify, I combined rupture into one, but if it wasn’t clear for someone who knows the proper priority, it wouldn’t be clear for someone who doesn’t know it

Good catch

Because that was my logic too

[kindred rapids]

It looks like fcm is somewhere between hc and mythic first sigil for me

[spice spire]

You do to keep SnD up, but almost never for funnies

[kindred rapids]

Luckily phial seems better than double on use anyways

[spice spire]

Double on use outside of tanking is cringe

But if it does more it does more

[kindred rapids]

So yeah can probably skip farming fcm this tier 😅

[spice spire]

Signet unfortunately

Looks like a fairly sized gain

Luckily I like that dungeon 5000000000x more

[granite pumice]

it says my cashe of aquired treasures at 252 is better than my old 242 phial but I don't believe it

certainly a lot more of a headache to use

[bleak sky]

see axe, press thing

[spice spire]

It is

[bleak sky]

not that hard

[gusty mirage]

Press the axe against my skull

[bleak sky]

no

bad oxi

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-hiss-gif-9387351

[delicate stump]

still 0 tier items, the vault hates me

do we take the highest item level item from the vault for the creation catalyst or are stats more important?

[limber lion]

item level >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stats

[silver basin]

how do you get 30 stacks of flag as sin? i been struggling

[limber lion]

You don't

don't worry about it

[silver basin]

ok lol

[delicate stump]

thanks

[oak sky]

Dont stats not matter for catalyst anyways

[gritty flame]

!chache

!cahce

[oak sky]

!cache

[prisma monolith]

Cache of Acquired Treasures usage:
Axe is always the strongest weapon.
Note: The Weapon rotates every 12 seconds in the order Sword -> Axe -> Wand

[spice spire]

Correct

[slow marsh]

just socket/tertiary

[gusty mirage]

And any upgrade system

[slow marsh]

yeee

[gusty mirage]

Yeeeeeeee

[oak sky]

And maybe the 285 gloves can get upgrsded too

[rotund oak]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gFnoRyaCq4i4jcPcEyB6r 4p tech boys,we did it,a week earlier

[glass tulip]

if any week is the week to do 3 m+ vault slots its this one

[bleak sky]

gz sap

[rotund oak]

tyty

[oak sky]

Im so there

[spice spire]

So true bestie

(Except I’m not)

[subtle tundra]

im killing hc jailer on 254 ilvl warrior before i do on rogue cause i can trade weapon kek

[bronze dust]

Any idea if the bleed from Cache of Acquired Treasures interacts with the tier set bonus?

[limber lion]

nah

[bronze dust]

😦 sadge

[ripe gulch]

i meant on opener mb

[spice spire]

Ye

[serene shell]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Fuus Shadowlands evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/uxr1tz

[steel ridge]

dausegne is one hell of a shitbox

is it just me or is the hitbox super small?

[balmy condor]

I haven’t noticed it too much

[steel ridge]

i think my timings are shit, 5 vendettas in 6 minutes

[limber lion]

Yeh def a bit scuffed

should be 6-7

[steel ridge]

dodging rings while having flagellation up is just pain

[limber lion]

tank one, shadowstep second, tank third if that comes

[steel ridge]

yeah but that boss is all over the place, probably our tanks fault

but well atleast its down 💪

[mossy moon]

Do you ever pool energy as venth assa now?

[limber lion]

Nah, pooling is kinda dead and cringe and non-existent

You don't have much time for pooling when you have to keep 3 bleeds up and maintain SnD

[mossy moon]

Alright thanks man ❤️

[storm belfry]

2p gang

[steel ridge]

its a start 😄

[storm belfry]

just an alt so kinda hype

14% avoidance now lmao

I didnt even realize it had it on

is poison bomb still ran after 4p? I see a lot of CT

[serene shell]

:> lords of dread with 2 total casts of shiv, nice 4 piece value there

also still ahead other sub player

[mossy moon]

any CDs u wanna pair together or just everything on cd?

[red plaza]

4pc Ven you line up every flag, vendetta, shiv, and mfd with a cast of shiv/mfd in between vendetta/flag goes

[mossy moon]

okeoke ty

[storm belfry]

so w 2p in keys you want to ideally bleed all mobs in a pack then shiv?

[serene shell]

assa in keys feelsweirdman

[subtle tundra]

with no 4pc, assa > sub dont care didnt ask your opinion is trash

[serene shell]

any outlaw gigachads

[storm belfry]

man assa over all specs of rogue man

[spice spire]

Nah it’s universally CT after 4p

bleeds

[vestal wren]

[storm belfry]

on FAQ it says PB

"2-2-2-0-0-2-1 - Single target after 4pc"

or am i reading wrong am dumb

[bleak sky]

FAQ is not up to date for venthyr

[storm belfry]

okay

so my q earlier. so w 2p in keys you want to ideally bleed all mobs in a pack then shiv?

[limber lion]

Nah just setup garrotes, ct then shiv

[storm belfry]

fa sho ty

[ripe gulch]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Fuus Shadowlands evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/uxr1tz

[edgy prairie]

Hey all, just giving a status update. I've got a BIG set of changes I'm working on wrapping up tonight to get Assassination near fully supported for 9.2 on WoWAnalyzer.

[gloomy ridge]

Any of yall solo layer 16 @ flawless?

[bleak sky]

Huge

[gloomy ridge]

ayee nice

[edgy prairie]

It's long overdue and I'm busting my tail to get it done.

[restive falcon]

is there a good haste breakpoint to be at?