#assassination

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oak sky
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the tmog

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monk belt

balmy condor
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that's +10 dps over a sylv belt

oak sky
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i dont have a socketed sylv belt

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Smoge

balmy condor
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I socketed mine

oak sky
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if i can beat you might depend on my raid

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oh and

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if i play well

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so hey

balmy condor
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nah nah, 100% raid

oak sky
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enjoy it

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can u teach me sub

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uwu

balmy condor
oak sky
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im gonna play it today

balmy condor
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I'll teach you the wonders of men

oak sky
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i know the basics

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but i dont think i know the tricks

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(of the trade)

balmy condor
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tricks of the trade?

oak sky
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whens my episode exsangery

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im like really important

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i

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got rank 1 pantheon on day 1 that stood for 5 days

balmy condor
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holy fuck

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you're huge

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can you teach me how to play overwatch

oak sky
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i could

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tbh

bleak sky
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zoomers tott podcast

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gargleon + skip as guests

oak sky
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Dekaichinpo

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Guy and whispyr as zoomer moderators

limber lion
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see you never

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betrayer of the poison boys

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the enemy of the bleedy buckeroos

brazen zodiac
oak sky
limber lion
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just don't get too tempted

glass tulip
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gonna run necro tn boys

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gonna see if we can do a little somethin

limber lion
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Go get em tiger

glass tulip
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the safe move is Zoldyck's on feet, right?

limber lion
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Yeah, that's a safe move

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I already have pantaloons so I'm sticking with em until I have to change

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I had Zoldyck boots in 9.0, recrafted to pants in 9.2 and now I gotta recraft to boots again

bleak sky
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it's black powder time

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we snorting it

oak sky
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yep

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@limber lion im a sin boy for life even in my learning sub week im gonna play sin on like 5 or 6 bosses

limber lion
brazen zodiac
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like me

glass tulip
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I got my guildie to make it

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cost 40k instead of 140k

pure moth
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Yay weapon already

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limber lion
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poggie

torn atlas
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Hell yeah Kriz

pure moth
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and i got the tanglewood thorn last night in a dungeon. so im starting out decent

torn atlas
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I was lucky enough to get 2 thorns off back to back mist runs this week. So I reckon I've used all my luck and will be last in raid to get tier.

pure moth
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prob, but lets hope not

oak sky
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@limber lion how hard do i pad on first boss tonight?

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necro zoldyck ct?

vestal coyote
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Sorry if already answered but with cache what weapon do you go on or is it just on cd?

halcyon zealot
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is CT supposed to beat PB with 2pc? its simming like 30 dps higher atm

pure moth
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I know the eon comparison is in pins. Am i reading it right in thinking i'd have to replace the 246 with a 278 for it to beat it in the sims?

bleak sky
open lion
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WHO POSTED THE LOCATION OF THE MOUNT INSIDE THE RAID

upbeat needle
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So how exactly do you use

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artificer trinket

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in raid

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do you just pick again if you don't like your buff or like

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does it automatically give you a buff

clear finch
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Serenade?

limber lion
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Hard.

clear finch
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Dis one?

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upbeat needle
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send help

clear finch
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It cycles thru the buffs (if I remember correctly)

upbeat needle
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I've got the WA for it

clear finch
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Send help. 🤣

upbeat needle
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lmfaooo

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bro the WA be popping up when I haven't even pressed it yet I'm so confused

timid cloud
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That means it's cycling through that weapon.

peak bobcat
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zoldycks is fucking tight

upbeat needle
oak sky
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@limber lion I DID A PULL OF DAUSEGNE AS NECRO WITH OBEDIENCE

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im like actually griefing my raid

limber lion
oak sky
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lmao

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i did like 10k dps

limber lion
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very good

oak sky
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no leggo dausegne top 20 club

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i wouldve actually wrecked that boss

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im glad i tried it tho

torn atlas
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I may have done half a weeks worth of keys as neceo + obed 🤣

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I'm not a smart rogue

timid cloud
viscid spear
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I haven't had issues

timid cloud
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Same.

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I never really did.

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Always cloaked it for MAXIMUM UPTIME

glass tulip
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i am a literal trashcan on necro bro

upbeat needle
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hard griefing

oak sky
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i hate my raid

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🙂

drifting cloud
slow marsh
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anyone know if its worth trying to game the xymox wweapon trinket or if just sending on cd is fine

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even if its wnad

bleak sky
oak sky
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killed me

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at the end

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of a very nice pantheon kill

glass tulip
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I got lost in the sauce

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only topped out around 11.6k

oak sky
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i was gonna be

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high 12ks somewhere

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im fucked though theres no way i get tier

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ive looted 2 pieces alr

viscid spear
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Keep wiping to Hal

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I just really want legs man

hollow river
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still no 2p

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all i looted all night was a ring

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2 rings

brazen zodiac
slow marsh
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I got 2p 🥰

brazen zodiac
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pog

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i still havent taken the hand 278 tier piece from my vault

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dont know if i should pepehands

oak sky
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well its bis

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so

brazen zodiac
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the hand tier piece?

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with haste mastery?

oak sky
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i mean ye

slow marsh
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bis until unity recraft

oak sky
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?

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unity doesnt go to hands

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it goes to hat

brazen zodiac
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waist/helm i thought

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was unity

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unless im hard trolling

oak sky
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unity is from wrists to hat

slow marsh
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unity goes on anything

brazen zodiac
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hat = head right

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im bad

oak sky
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ye

brazen zodiac
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pog

glass tulip
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but why would you say hands kek

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never hands

slow marsh
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idk hands seem to be the weakest stat allocation

oak sky
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gosh, if only whispyr had simmed all the setups

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and iirc the head is vers mastery

slow marsh
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head is crit vers big ilvl

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but its whatevs not a big deal

brazen zodiac
safe sluice
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is sack trinket any good on rog..got it on GV choice..no tier sadge

brazen zodiac
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sim it to find out!

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its like christmas every time you run a sim you dont know what u gonna get

glass tulip
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my raid is literally throwing and im pissed off about it

brazen zodiac
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fuck discord nitro

hollow river
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sim to be sure, for sure

oak sky
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lihuvim is so much more fun now

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holy

brazen zodiac
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whatd they change tldr

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i heard more hp

oak sky
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uh

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more raid damage, adds are more random i think, and also the adds are every 40s

glass tulip
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it sucks

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he transitions before a minute so the add is actually hard to kill lol

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no 60s cds

oak sky
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yeah

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that makes it way more fun

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because its actually challenging

slow marsh
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we had 2 aquisitions

spice spire
slow marsh
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fun

spice spire
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With 4p dusk

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Unlucky

glass tulip
stray mural
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is it worth crafting a duskwalker ring if i dont have 4set

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like if i had to pick a 291

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obe until 4 set?

bleak sky
# stray mural obe until 4 set?

9.2 Megathread:
Legendaries:
Single Legendary No Tier:
Venth: Obedience
Other Covenants: Dashing

Double Legendary No Tier:
All Covenants: Unity + Dashing

Single Legendary with 4pc:
All Covenants: Duskwalkers

Double Legendary with 4pc:
All Covenants: Unity + Duskwalkers

slow marsh
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any week 2 normal parsers in chat?

hollow river
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sec

winged basin
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am i right to think that 2 set doesnt provide a signifcant dps increase in st?

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just makes shiv aoe right?

slow marsh
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it does

winged basin
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did I misread it?

bleak sky
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probably?

slow marsh
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bleeds and poisons do +40% for 9s

bleak sky
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40% increased damage for 9 sec on a 25 sec skill is kinda real good

hollow river
winged basin
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OH

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yeah I missed that part

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mb

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I just read the aoe shiv part

hollow river
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i did mine as sub

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lol

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got a 96 on it as sin last week

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bro 2p for pantheon

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i bet it's insane

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2p shiv affects sbs?

slow marsh
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yes

hollow river
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yeah

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2p gonna be poggies for pantheon

slow marsh
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I got rank 5 pantehon as nadjia venthyr cuz 2p strongk

glass tulip
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tome
swap theotar and roll tea
Versatility +3%
swap back to nadjia and cry

hollow river
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or swap to sub and be a gigachad

oak sky
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arent you a warrior

hollow river
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nope

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got banned from rerolling cuz 2x mythic sylv daggies

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other rogue still rocking 1 Normal EoN

brazen zodiac
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based

hollow river
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im gonna alt my warrior

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and possibly shaman

oak sky
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im a 2p haver

clever kindle
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imagine getting loot

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dogshit trinket

timber gale
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hello friends who do i summon if i want one of those uh

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people look at my logs and are like here's what's wrong

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i keep having moments in a key or fight where I will absolutely blast & rip aggro and fights where I'm extremely weak/not and i have no real way of being able to tell why

drifting cloud
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@balmy condor ⏰

balmy condor
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that would be me yeh

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post log I open threaderino

glass tulip
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fake scarizard holUp

balmy condor
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no that's the real scarizard

glass tulip
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oh

drifting cloud
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lmao u banned

glass tulip
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Peepowave bye guys was nice knowin ya

slow marsh
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Cya

timber gale
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i always ask this when someone says that but

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why would someone impersonate me lmao

slow marsh
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Because people don't understand

timber gale
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i got it a lot on league and it's just like. what an odd choice

drifting cloud
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its easier to assume a fake, than you would actually get in the same game as the real guy 😛

glass tulip
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well I was under the impression that someone who helps to design game things would have some gamer knowledge that us plebs dont

timber gale
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i mean i'm pretty good at dk

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but also if i had a lot of knowledge why would i spend it all on rogue

balmy condor
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he's in the mainframe 100 parsing on his private logs with secret console hacks

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don't believe his lies

timber gale
gusty mirage
slow marsh
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Oxi you raid earlier?

gusty mirage
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Yeah

slow marsh
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How go

gusty mirage
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It was okay, cleared up to anduin

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Looted the garbage trinket off pantheon and then the xymox trinket

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Still no tier loot outside of the normal gloves I got in the vault

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Kinda want to go play in traffic

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Im about to hop in lfr and suffer this week for tier

slow marsh
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Rip

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I thought I was a goner but I got tier hands on hlithium for 2p

gusty mirage
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Creation catalyst can’t come soon enough

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Tbh

slow marsh
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Ikr

gusty mirage
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19 bosses killed 1 useable piece of loot lol

slow marsh
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That xymox trink is weird but cool. Only got to use it for a couple pulls but

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Seems nice

gusty mirage
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It’s okay I’m saving the rng for mythic COPIUM

slow marsh
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Would be better if I wasn't double on use

gusty mirage
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Yeah if you can get axe in aoe

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And sword in ST

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You CRANK

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5 stacks of alacrity + sword + flag and I was hitting 111% haste on anduin lol

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Without lust

slow marsh
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Im assuming it's better to fish for the buffs but idk

gusty mirage
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Yeah wand kinda kaka

slow marsh
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Like would you hold 10s to get a sword

gusty mirage
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35k dam on a 3min cd is gross

slow marsh
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Yeah

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It is

gusty mirage
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Sword is nice to jump start your opener though

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Because with alacrity it’s an impactful amount of haste

slow marsh
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Yeah would be nice if I didn't have to wait until 20s SucksMan

gusty mirage
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Just a casual 74% before flag hits lol

hollow river
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what do the buffs do exactly

gusty mirage
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Sword gives you stacking haste buff

slow marsh
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Big haste sword or big bleed axe

hollow river
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people have been saying axe is best in all scenarios

gusty mirage
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Axe makes crits apply a bleed

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Wand is just 1 instance of dam

slow marsh
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Yeah but sword is kinda stonks with other haste multipliers I assume that push it over axe

gusty mirage
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It’s an obscene amount of damage

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Big aoe pulls the dot was doing 38% of my damage lol

slow marsh
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Good

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That trinket should be a stonker trink imo

gusty mirage
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It’s nice to toss the faulty in the garbage tbh

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Throw away the emotional pain of farming that piece of shit

slow marsh
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I mean yeah but my sim wants both

gusty mirage
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I got lucky and got a phial

drifting cloud
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excuse me

slow marsh
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Nice. I'll get one soon copium

gusty mirage
drifting cloud
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oh a drop, or from vault?

gusty mirage
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Drop last week lol

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Big 255 phial

drifting cloud
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my rng has been above average for sure

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hc xymox, normal eq and normal helm

gusty mirage
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I’m waiting to see if I can get one this week to save valor

drifting cloud
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lets go vault in 20min

hollow river
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my lucks been kinda trash

gusty mirage
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Vault of the wardens is getting 10 runs max out of me before I give up

hollow river
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i've gotten a cloak and a ring from raid bosses

gusty mirage
hollow river
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but i got 275 tier legs

gusty mirage
hollow river
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from m+ vault

slow marsh
hollow river
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was up all night had to pug 14s -.-

gusty mirage
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I got haste mastery GARBAGE in my vault

gusty mirage
slow marsh
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Oh rip

gusty mirage
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My lowest ilvl slot rolled tier

slow marsh
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I mean nice but not I guess idk

hollow river
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i got tazzy dagger

gusty mirage
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I wanted to drink bleach, I was so mad I was about to mia raid tonight

hollow river
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259

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doubt i upgrade it though

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prolly need to prio sub gear

slow marsh
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Yeah I was pretty bummed about my vault but haste chest is ok for now ig

gusty mirage
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255 dagger sitting in my bank

drifting cloud
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youre never upgrading that

hollow river
gusty mirage
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Yeah I know lmao

slow marsh
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Yeah Mr double eons

hollow river
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i'd rather farm mists or pf dagger

gusty mirage
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I keep it in case my rng stays shitty

hollow river
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but tazzy dagger isn't bad

slow marsh
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Need mists dagger now I think

hollow river
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but rn valor is very slim

slow marsh
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But I'd be fine with a pf one since I'll be spamming

gusty mirage
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We have 1 tier piece between both our rogues and it’s my 252 gloves

hollow river
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same

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cept legs

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2nd piece from our loot table went to warrior

slow marsh
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Ye sub rogue has heroic pants and no gloves and I have heroic gloves normal pants

gusty mirage
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At least you have the 2pc

hollow river
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idek what we're doing tomorrow

gusty mirage
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Must be nice

hollow river
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i'm assuming heroic anduin-rygelon-lords

slow marsh
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It is but isn't idk

gusty mirage
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We’re beating our head against anduin until he dies

hollow river
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we haven't even progged heroic anduin

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at all

slow marsh
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Us either

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We going to tom

hollow river
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i don't think it'll be that hard

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tbh

gusty mirage
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We got some dece pulls in

hollow river
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especially since they nerfed

slow marsh
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I mean they only nerfed it like 4 times now

hollow river
gusty mirage
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Getting to 2nd kingsmourn pretty well. It’s add management rn

slow marsh
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Hardest part is still gonna be circles

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Bunch of apes

hollow river
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circles should be pretty easy for us i think

gusty mirage
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I’m convinced once we get that clean it dies sooner than later

hollow river
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you can't walk over people in heroic right?

slow marsh
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No you blow up in heroic

hollow river
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i think we've got it ez

slow marsh
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It is ez

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But people are dumb

hollow river
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kek

gusty mirage
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I’m dumb

slow marsh
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I'm sure

gusty mirage
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Ty

drifting cloud
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you can walk over people without circles, incase you meant that

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think that kills in mythic?

gusty mirage
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Yeah you can, I was the last circle and just sprinted over to the one healer in narnia

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Whoever was in the way was in the way

slow marsh
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Lmao

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I wonder if they fixed the step thing I was killing people with in ptr

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Where you step across the raid to the loner and it thinks you ran through the raid

charred wraith
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nah it works fine

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i do that mechanic with shadowstep when nobody in melee is left with the color i need, havent happened once yet

kindred rapids
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rank 3 lihuvim poggers

lihuvim.png
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at least until the lucky 2pc folks get there

slow marsh
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Grats

kindred rapids
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thanks 🙂

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rank 4 dasausage too

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never parsed top 10 before

grim tangle
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I'm rank 1 normal jailer :)

kindred rapids
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poggers dude

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hell yeah 🙂

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also is no one playing sin this tier?

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only 500 parses

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on lihuvim

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everyone on the sub bandwagon?

slow marsh
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Sub is the clear #1 given double eon

oak sky
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sin is good on a solid amount of bosses tbh

kindred rapids
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I gave it a try but I just wasn't doing as well

slow marsh
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But with the amount of cleave in the raid when 4p comes around I expect a big shift back to sin again

vestal wren
dim tide
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hi, is there any macro/addon to manage IDQ trinket?

vestal wren
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did anyone play the last 2?

dim tide
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IQD*

kindred rapids
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yeah, pantheon is what made we switch sin then I just never switched back

slow marsh
kindred rapids
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pantheon as sub without tier is just ass

oak sky
slow marsh
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It does

oak sky
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outlaw

slow marsh
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Not low key

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Necro stonks getting bigger and bigger after today imo

oak sky
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sin on sausage pantheon and dreadlords

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necro for all 3

vestal wren
slow marsh
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I didn't see jailer. Gonna watch tomorrow

oak sky
slow marsh
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Rygleon is multi dot funnel

oak sky
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im not sure if stuff will live long enough for multi dot funnel

vestal wren
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seems not to bad for subtlety then

oak sky
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honestly

kindred rapids
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sin feels good on lihuvim too

vestal wren
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i mean the 2 fights i def. would play sin over sub are dreadlords and pantheon rn

kindred rapids
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and 1 min vendettas will be huge for lining up cds for shields

vestal wren
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sub seems fine on the rest

oak sky
slow marsh
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Sin is nasty on lithium but sub still pads harder

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Same with anduin

kindred rapids
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but does the pad damage matter at all?

oak sky
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ye

kindred rapids
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lihuvim small adds just die passively, don't seem threatening on heroic at least

drifting cloud
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if it matters its not pad damage

slow marsh
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No but it makes them look better. Anduin the sub funnel is real but it's not as dominant vs sin as a whole fight

oak sky
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lihuvim add damage is most of the fight tbh

vestal wren
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i am surprised that sub isn't #1 on boss damage on anduin

slow marsh
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Just the small adds alone are enough for sub to jump up to the top and compete

slow marsh
oak sky
slow marsh
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You bois be pressing bp too much

fading mason
slow marsh
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Can't help it

grim tangle
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killing the adds during intermission is actually valuable though

slow marsh
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Sure but not as a rogue

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That's Boomie job

vestal wren
# slow marsh I'm not

i mean, it kind of makes sense given that other classes can burst during the invuln

grim tangle
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boss dps check isn't hard enough

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killing adds makes the boss easier

slow marsh
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Cuz if sub is pumping remnant they are for sure topping boss dam across the whole fight

grim tangle
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depends if they go downstairs and whatnot

vestal wren
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ye potentially, didn't investigate to much

grim tangle
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demo locks basically never go to downphase

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they do nothing down there

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so they win boss damage

vestal wren
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i did go in first group, and i must say it does not play as well with cooldowns

slow marsh
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Yeah all the add stuff outside of intermission favors assassination a lot

shy dust
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just pure ST

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dread lord dont play sub

vestal wren
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dread lords seems quite boring ngl

shy dust
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Assa is okay on dreadlord

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its an okay boss

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very boring as melee

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all you do is dodge green puddle

vestal wren
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did you play/see jailer?

shy dust
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no

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i think Imperative was pulling it a bit

bold jetty
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phial in vault still bis? 😄

vestal wren
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yes

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its top 3 on all specs too, so its rly good

bold jetty
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noice

drifting cloud
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so theyre on front page of wcl

glass tulip
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there it is boys, the highs and lows

unknown.png
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raid team was actually trolling us today

fleet anchor
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Every other boss ~50m HP

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Dreadlords... 2x 50m HP

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ok

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???

shy dust
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Yeah it was one long fight

fleet anchor
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Like "takes extra damage from AoE attacks" lol

shy dust
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Yeah

fleet anchor
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ok... yeah I'm sure

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That's really good for specs like Assassination 🤣

shy dust
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Maybe they accidentally put in aoe attacks and not everything

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My crimson tempest initial application 📈

fleet anchor
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Also don't really think it makes up for their super high health when there's adds to kill and intermissions

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Fight was just boring AF

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Was almost 10 minutes when we did it on Normal lol

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Seems pretty much good for Warriors and not much else since they use AoE all the time just for normal damage

glass tulip
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ele sham stonks

fleet anchor
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Even Shuriken Storm with the buff won't beat Shadowstrike anyway

shy dust
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Hunter with the wild spirits lego

fleet anchor
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And Assassination gains essentially nothing

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Could be an Outlaw fight if Blade Flurry works 😛

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Seems to

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I dunno, gonna play around with Assassination tomorrow for Heroic I think on it

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Sub feels pretty bad on that fight

somber hill
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my m sylv dag still out-simming my heroic OH w Heroic MH btww

oak sky
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same as me

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i think its normal

glass tulip
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H skolex dagger was +80 for me from mythic sylv MH and heroic sylv OH

oak sky
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could be differences in the "bis" profile compared to yours, they have double leggos, tier set, theyre fae etc

somber hill
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true thats a good point

shy dust
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This is the assassination channel

weary marten
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guys the 278 trinket is 250ish dps more, should i take it ? or dagger, didn't push last week but i think i can get to 1.8 this week

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hollow river
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can't get 278 trinket any other way than vault

weary marten
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yeah true

hollow river
#

its not "bis"

weary marten
#

but this trinket is pure ST right ?

hollow river
#

but it's your biggest upgrade

#

im not sure i think so

weary marten
#

ok will take it, thanks for intel

hollow river
#

it seems to be ST from the tooltip

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"your target"

weary marten
#

yeah so will have to sim it for dungeon

hollow river
#

it will be good for bosses. rogues main role in dungeons

#

but ye

upbeat needle
placid cobalt
#

guys is it possible that so'leah trinket sims less than 252 nerfed phials

glass tulip
#

tanks just moved randomly as we were transitioning and dropped a buster on my head

hollow river
thin trout
#

this enh in my guild is complaning he got 278 phial

#

he didnt get a tier piece from the vault

#

kek

visual hemlock
#

is it worth buying 300k back legendary for obedience, if we have to recraft later unity on ring?

thin trout
#

it's like asking someone if it's worth it to buy biological food and sport regularly - yes if you are wealthy enough

oak sky
#

if you don't have extra money I wouldn't recommend it ye

lean coral
#

It's def cheaper to buy the mats and have it crafted

thin trout
#

I myself am crafting the 291 Obedience

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since it will cost me around 5k since i'm a skinner

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and luckily have a LW in the guild that can make the head

lean coral
#

Sadly helm is one of my current 2 tier pieces

thin trout
#

do I need it? no since im replacing it in 2 eweks

#

depends on so many factors - how hard are you gonna push for bosses etc

#

overal in your situation i prob wouldnt

manic pebble
#

!bis

oak sky
#

there isnt a bis list if thats what ur looking for

manic pebble
#

aw

vestal wren
#

bis lists do not make a lot of sense in general, as you rarely get to have all items for it

#

but you can take a quick look at my spreadsheet if you want, it should have rly well optimized profiles

#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
strange silo
#

is it safe to craft duskwalker now or maybe wait for tuning patches?

limber lion
#

It's safe to craft duskwalkers when you have 4p

vestal wren
#

i mean you can craft it in advance

#

but if you won't use it before 4p, might wait for prices to get lower

strange silo
#

i bought the mats cheap and had a guild member craft it for me so thats fine 😄

drifting cloud
#

tuning patches starege

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thats a good one

#

maybe in may

subtle tundra
#

no shot assa gets any nerfs when warriors still exist

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and enha

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and boomy

quasi grotto
#

Don't we still use dusk when we gave double leggo and no complete set ?

versed mica
#

@quasi grotto

vestal wren
#

the tier set is rly strong, but overall performance is still in line with others

subtle tundra
craggy nimbus
#

Can you sim and compare legendaries without having one of the actual legendaries in your bags?

vestal wren
#

yes, there is a option to add them to your bags on top

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if you sim top gear

craggy nimbus
#

Ah alright, thanks. I'm using Doomblade on cloak and wanted to compare it with Dusk at 291. From what I've seen Doomblade is far from top legendary but I cba crafting Obedience and use it for a week or two. I'm not that wealthy :>

quasi grotto
fair stag
#

yo fellas for assassination, when should you press the cache trinket? bleed, haste, or nuke?

cold rampart
#

what lego should we make 291 ?

oak sky
#

if you have a lot of gold, obedience, if you don't, wait for 4p then buy duskwalkers

cold rampart
oak sky
#

technically head would be better but you need to replace that if you get a tier set

cold rampart
#

i got head set today :))

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heroic

oak sky
#

go back then

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head isnt crazy crazy better anyway

timid cloud
#

Got the cache today, I dunno how I feel about it….

manic pebble
#

first sigil cd doesn't reset on wipe?

timid cloud
#

Neither does cache.

manic pebble
#

that sucks

timid cloud
#

Lowkey kinda cringe.

#

Especially since they’re 3 & 5 minutes respectively.

manic pebble
#

guess I'll keep using salvage amplifier

zinc frost
timid cloud
#

I definitely don’t like the fact that it does not reset on a pull.

manic pebble
#

hey guys, pls wait for me like 4 mins for another pull!

timid cloud
#

LOL

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Yeah, pretty much.

#

You can do that by just saying “So can go you over the fight one more time, I feel as if…”

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Then the debating begins.

jade minnow
#

Possible to outsim sub with 4p2leggo on ST as sin?

vestal wren
#

yes

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but if you mean "does sin beat sub with best possible gear"

#

no

frosty cedar
vestal wren
#

!fuu i have fairly well optimized profiles in my spreadsheet, you can compare the 3 specs from it

prisma monolithBOT
oak jungle
#

yo bois, on pantheon p2 when the 1st 2 bosses fly away, do they still count towards bonepsike cp gen in p2 or does it clear?

jaunty kayak
#

it clears

oak jungle
#

cheers

subtle tundra
#

just got the cache trinket, in aoe i get the crit bleeds but on st what do i pick?

timid cloud
#

I was told ZA WANDO

gusty mirage
#

Sword or axe

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Wand is kinda kaka

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Even in ST

timid cloud
#

I felt like it was.

#

We gotta get that implemented into the sims.

gusty mirage
#

Sword is good if you wanna juice some fat haste

#

Axe is just good damage

#

Wand is… just one instance of damage

timid cloud
#

Idk what I’m gonna use on Halondrus today.

subtle tundra
#

wand did 70k crit

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which is bad for 3 min cd

timid cloud
#

I think I might do the sword.

gusty mirage
#

Yeah it’s not great

timid cloud
subtle tundra
#

is the trinket optimized for assa sims?

gusty mirage
#

Uhhh I’m not sure tbh

#

Koji or whispyr would know better

timid cloud
#

Fuck it, just getting the earthquake trinket.

#

This trinket is STINKY

subtle tundra
#

just drop it bro?

timid cloud
#

I will. I’ll do it in main raid in…12 hours…

gusty mirage
#

iirc Koji put in some stuff into simc for the xymox trinket and fuu got it put in the raidbots nightly

#

@vestal wren is the xymox trinket stuff in the nightly?

vestal wren
#

yes

gusty mirage
timid cloud
#

OH SNAP

#

But is there a button for it though…that’s the real question…

vestal wren
#

the one thing that probably needs further investigations is sword for night fae on assassination

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and subtlety always uses bleed in nightly instead of wand on kyrian, what means it slightly undersims (tho i did use a updated apl in my spreadsheet to correct that in the single target simulations)

gusty mirage
#

Sub cranks with the bleed in aoe

subtle tundra
#

the sword is just a better iqd

gusty mirage
#

It was doing 40% of my damage some pulls lmao

vestal wren
#

aoe its always axe ye

#

but on st wand seems to be better on non venthyr

subtle tundra
#

hc sword gave like 960 haste

#

iqd max ilvl gives 900 stats

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and sword has higher duration

gusty mirage
subtle tundra
#

double pf slime buff + vy buff + bl

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9000 haste

gusty mirage
#

Throw in 4pc

#

Crash instance servers

subtle tundra
#
  • nadja proc???
timid cloud
#

Might do Sword outside of Lust

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Then on last nuke phase of Halondrus use Axe.

gusty mirage
#

I died saving our pull last night by knocking 3 that were about to hit boss

timid cloud
#

If you think I’m bouncing any fucking orbs…you’re off a bean.

gusty mirage
timid cloud
#

My raid utility is boss die.

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I do not need mechanics.

subtle tundra
#

sprint cloak get all

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or push ~3 to max distance

gusty mirage
#

Yeah that’s what I did earlier

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Cuz warriors don’t know what mechanics are apparently

timid cloud
#

I did it outside of CD’s

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While I was noodling.

#

Does feint work on them?

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I’d imagine does since it’s a little aoe orb.

gusty mirage
#

I’m not sure, I’d have to check logs

clever kindle
gusty mirage
#

Oh that reminds me, I gotta finish tazavesh for you ungrateful apes

clever kindle
#

I should do one of those before I have to go in on m+

gusty mirage
timid cloud
#

You doing some Book of Shadows stuff?

gusty mirage
#

Yeah I wanted to try to get taz done for 9.2 release but I got lazy

timid cloud
#

Yeah no real reason to do Taza before 9.2 so I can understand the lack of energy going in.

gusty mirage
#

Oh you can’t evasion the slam from uhr

#

In case anyone was wondering

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Or it could’ve been a weird positioning thing on my end

timid cloud
#

LOL

#

I only cloaked it.

gusty mirage
#

I did it for science

timid cloud
#

Cause it looks big & magical.

#

(There’s a joke in there.)

gusty mirage
#

I definitely didn’t do it because I have the attention span of a goldfish

#

Nope. No sir.

timid cloud
#

You really hate this affix don’t you?

#

Or was it Quake?

gusty mirage
#

I hate this entire patch lmao

timid cloud
#

Better strap yourself in, it’s gonna be a long one.

gusty mirage
#

Sure is

#

9.2.5 comes out in fall, we get another 8 months of this shit

#

Can’t wait

clever kindle
#

just give us a filler raid blizzard

#

youve got dragons laying around figure out one to kill

#

nozdormus 7th cousin from a distant timeline

timid cloud
#

Twice removed*

#

Who was once roommates with Ysera.

clever kindle
#

boom ez lore

subtle tundra
#

@vestal wren
looking at the sims you sent on #tc-research, do i just press either axe or sword to put it on cd in st?

vestal wren
#

you use axe usually

timid cloud
safe frigate
#

Good morning everyone!~ I hope all you have a lovely day!

heavy forge
#

I got 2 piece so I'm having a pretty good day

safe frigate
#

Epic! Love to hear it.

heavy forge
#

had to forfeit 272 ooze tho

#

not sure how I feel about it

timid cloud
#

Was the tier 278?

#

I probably would’ve went for the Ooze since it might take you further.

heavy forge
#

it was a pretty tough choice tbh

#

I'll probably regret it later, we'll see

clever kindle
#

Ive gotten 0 tier from normal or heroic

sterile chasm
timid cloud
#

The one tier piece I got was the ducking Haste Mastery hands…

clever kindle
#

I do actually need them

sterile chasm
#

In my guild rogue get

clever kindle
#

I got a dogshit trinket I couldn't trade and non tier mastery shoulders

sterile chasm
#

Normal tier hands heroic hands and now from wall mythic hands

clever kindle
#

woo

sterile chasm
#

It count like 3?

timid cloud
#

Yeah, a friend came to our run, dealing healer damage & got his 3 set.

#

Hasn’t played since 9.1

pure moth
#

Why do those people have the best luck

timid cloud
#

Still won’t beat me though, one tier piece chad.

#

Never mind my gear is significantly better.

#

LOL

#

I will pass away…

pure moth
#

0 tier .. but 278 weapon. So theres that

timid cloud
fleet galleon
#

Couldn't really find anything on it, but if i get 4 set before 2 legendaries, what cov and legendary what be best to play?

thorn fjord
#

Y'all 2p boiz yet?

grim hornet
#

more like 0p boiz

thorn fjord
#

I got my second piece on our last kill of the night so haven't been able to try it yet

#

2 of my guildys got mythic set from their m+ box 😭

brazen zodiac
#

pins

timid cloud
#

Also…

fleet galleon
#

ah mb, didnt scroll, thank you lads!

timid cloud
#

Never a problem.

floral shoal
sterile chasm
#

What is bis trinkets

#

Just kidding xx

sterile chasm
limber lion
#

Happy for you guys :)

timid cloud
#

Did you get anything Cevvy?

#

I know you grustled in the raid last week.

#

I’m assuming you got 5 bosses or did you get the full 8?

fallow canopy
#

Is there a way to add the aelic enhancement stone perk to the alch trinket when simming in raidbots?

slow marsh
#

It's not worth

slow marsh
slow marsh
deft vault
#

lol arent those gloves our BiS??

timid cloud
slow marsh
#

Allegedly

viscid spear
#

Tier > Stats bro

timid cloud
#

SILENCE FERAL

viscid spear
#

Feral, where?

slow marsh
#

That's a mage not feral @timid cloud

timid cloud
#

Even worse.

viscid spear
#

You just jelly cuz I'm flexible

timid cloud
#

Only when you're getting bent in raid.

#

Enjoy your 5 DPS off your tier set if you're Fire.

viscid spear
strange silo
#

the 2p is around 1,1k dmg increase right?

gusty mirage
#

Cydone woke up today and chose violence

timid cloud
gusty mirage
hollow river
viscid spear
clever kindle
hollow river
#

But with bis gear double leggo it’s higher

timid cloud
#

I'm SICK of it.

gusty mirage
strange silo
#

alright thanks

gusty mirage
timid cloud
#

Gaslit into NF, now i don't even get gear.

#

I might as well play Warrior or something.

clever kindle
#

Shaman in my raid with 2 piece: well ryu im sorry you didnt get BIS with a wave of a magic wand in the first week

timid cloud
viscid spear
#

Let's go Kisame, he doesn't even get loot

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gusty mirage
#

Tier sets are a lie, stay woke friends

timid cloud
clever kindle
#

PepeSmoke its the man trying to get you to conform by wearing the same clothes

viscid spear
#

I have gloves on Rogue but the group I was in kept getting rekt on Hal

#

RL kept saying they were getting to Anduin (it was mostly a guild group) but didn't specify that you had to come back for the second night

#

Pretty early on I had suspicions that these guys haven't even seen Anduin monkahmm

uneven summit
#

Do we know which tier pieces are ideal...? I have head and gloves in my vault don´t know which to go for

#

headpiece due to the dreadlords gloves right?

thorn fjord
#

Dreadlords drip shoulders

#

Drop

gusty mirage
#

Doesn’t matter right now, you just want tier pieces

uneven summit
thorn fjord
#

Oh derp

clever kindle
#

what stats are on set gloves again

uneven summit
#

haste mastery

#

high mastery

thorn fjord
#

Haste mastery

timid cloud
#

Haste mastery low haste

clever kindle
#

daniels gaming

thorn fjord
#

Fuck blizzard and mastery

gusty mirage
#

Garbage

timid cloud
#

Yeah.

limber lion
#

You just want the tier sets that you can get

gusty mirage
#

That’s what you guys meant to spell

uneven summit
#

super duper yikes, only overcome by shoulders

limber lion
#

If you have a choice between 2, you choose the one that gives more stats

#

stats don't matter for shit

timid cloud
#

4 set is needed over anything.

limber lion
#

if you have a helm and gloves, take the helm

gusty mirage
#

Set Bonus > all else rn

thorn fjord
#

Shoulders have mastery too lol

timid cloud
#

Then you can worry about the stats & shit.

clever kindle
#

benefits of being a walking aura buff

limber lion
#

if you have shoulders and chest, choose the one with better stats

#

only care about stats

timid cloud
#

Which is pain to the early game, but it's gain, y'know.

limber lion
#

if they give the same amount of stats

#

ya'll putting mega amounts of emphasis on stats

#

like chill

timid cloud
#

I'm mainly joking.

limber lion
#

I've been listening to this stat-bullshit for 3 years now

clever kindle
#

I did have a 278 crit vers ring that only gave me 15 dps

limber lion
#

stats changed in BFA

timid cloud
#

Gonna keep hearing it so long as you play.

limber lion
#

it literally doesn't matter

clever kindle
#

over my 252 with a socket

timid cloud
gusty mirage
limber lion
gusty mirage
timid cloud
#

You couldn't get michael khors if you were fucking michael khors, Oxi.

limber lion
#

People complaining about not having super duper ideal stats on an item that you don't have a choice over anyways

#

Should be happy you get an item

gusty mirage
limber lion
#

not sad because it doesn't have omega bis stats

#

:(

#

some people don't even have 1 tier piece

timid cloud
#

Ty for the loot, based Cev.

gusty mirage
#

Fun fact those normal tier gloves were an 11 dps upgrade over my dom piece

timid cloud
#

It's because you didn't get anything in your vault, that you're big grump, isn't it?

#

You never showed it.

limber lion
#

No, I did get a dagger

#

which is a 350 dps upgrade

gusty mirage
#

I never showed mine either

limber lion
#

Second best thing

timid cloud
#

WHOA

gusty mirage
timid cloud
#

Do you need tho?

vestal wren
limber lion
thorn fjord
#

Cev mad about his tier situation

limber lion
#

But I'm glad at least 3-4 players in my guild got tier from vault

#

which means more vault to trade

thorn fjord
#

Big true

gusty mirage
#

Yeah we had like 4 people get tier too

#

Seems kind of low tbh

#

5 out of 23?

limber lion
#

We suddenly have 6 people with tier set

#

that's kinda massive

verbal radish
#

Assuming they take it, and don't decide to wait to see if they get it from raid :/ thus resulting in one less tier piece

limber lion
#

from yesterdays 1

thorn fjord
#

Dunno how but more people have 2p than not in our group of 24 peeps

limber lion
clever kindle
#

I got a trinket that was a DPS loss YEP

#

#justiceforbells

gusty mirage
#

You want it? It’s sitting in my bags

thorn fjord
#

I got a 252 bell's that isn't good

clever kindle
#

im about to use the engineering push back belt to see if that cheeses the stacks

uneven summit
#

is it weird that dashing sims 75dps above obedience?

thorn fjord
limber lion
#

Link the sim

#

75 is a bunch

#

are you simming with mfd

uneven summit
winter gale
#

Venthyr assa will still use Obedience on cloak in 9.2?

#

I am about to upgrade to r7

balmy condor
#

because in 2 weeks obedience will not exist

winter gale
#

Y

gusty mirage
#

Because unity exists

balmy condor
#

because that's how double legendaries work

viscid spear
#

Because we killed it

#

For asking too many questions

winter gale
#

So I stay with this r6 or I waste 100k gold? ;D

clever kindle
#

im not spending a million gold on legendaries

balmy condor
#

you can spend 100k for the next 2 weeks if you'd like

gusty mirage
#

You’re about to get a free 265(?) legendary belt that swaps to any covenant leggo. And you get a memory that lets you craft that everywhere

clever kindle
#

on illidan the blanks were going for like 300k yesterday

gusty mirage
#

Just be patient

uneven summit
#

Is there ANY idea in crafting dusk on ring now though? We don´t play it before unity anyway right?

gusty mirage
#

We don’t play it until 4pc

balmy condor
#

you play dusk if you have 4 piece

thorn fjord
#

Even without unity?

balmy condor
#

yes

uneven summit
#

yeah okay, so might aswell wait till prices all also

gusty mirage
#

Yeah just let prices mellow out

#

Don’t drop 200k-400k on base pieces just yet

#

Peeps tryin to cash out on the RWF hype

uneven summit
#

idd

slow marsh
#

Same

clever kindle
#

nmpNooo I forgot to sell a prog essence last night

#

my gold

balmy condor
#

but jpc crafted a 291 obed and a 291 echoing???????

gusty mirage
#

You got these guilds giving people 2 to 5 mil for normal tier pieces

balmy condor
#

why aren't you????????

#

?????????????

gusty mirage
rotund oak
#

U are cooler

clever kindle
#

Hmm did they change the logic in IQD to make it better?

unknown.png
balmy condor
#

no

gusty mirage
#

Is that bloodmallet?

clever kindle
#

yeah I just looked at the character profile and its completely scuffed unless its displaying wrong

gusty mirage
#

Imagine not using herodamage smh

clever kindle
#

deleted from my mind

#

very good

unknown.png
bleak sky
clever kindle
#

eye of guarm yes

#

indeed

balmy condor
gusty mirage
thorn fjord
#

NA?

rotund oak
gusty mirage
carmine token
#

dont they both just use the same t28 profiles though?

balmy condor
#

if anything, bloodmallet is better because it updates more frequently

subtle tundra
#

i sim on my character

rotund oak
#

cache pulls ahead in herodamage

subtle tundra
#

all the trinkets

gusty mirage
#

Idk I just droptimize bro

clever kindle
#

like half the trinkets in m+ sim as an upgrade for me rn

gusty mirage
#

I haven’t looked at either of those sites since early bfa

clever kindle
#

I only look at these when im at work and dont have access to simc and my bags

gusty mirage
#

Raidbots is my bible

clever kindle
#

I forgor to run a sim at the end of last night so I had an updated simc input I could yoink

rotund oak
#

FCM ftw

gusty mirage
#

Yeah I’m not farming that thing again

rotund oak
#

i kinda dont like the first sigil its very long cd

carmine token
#

i need better daggers, these 242/226 aint gonna carry me far

#

should spam some m+ i guess

bleak sky
#

Yep

gusty mirage
#

Ye just run a bunch of m+

clever kindle
#

why you have to think of it less, most fights you use it during opener then end of the fight during lust or something right

gusty mirage
#

5mn cd reduces the amount huge brain plays people try making with trinkets

rotund oak
carmine token
#

yeahh..

strange silo
#

i hope they change that it resets on wipes
imagine use it on pull wipe 1min later and waiting 4 mins

clever kindle
#

I imagine that will be hotfixed

#

I would hope

thorn fjord
#

Nah they want us to suffer

slow marsh
#

Na it'll get hotfixed when people decide to post about it enough

native heron
#

is herodamange good to go off of or bloodmallet?

slow marsh
#

I find hero to be better

#

More accurate more often