#assassination

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slow marsh
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Necro gemstones prio 🧃

limber lion
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But Necro won everytime.

slow marsh
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sbs just does damage

oak sky
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I think necro does more cleave to prio venth might do more aoe to prio

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If that makes sense

limber lion
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Yeh

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Def depends on the encounter

oak sky
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And venth is straight up more st

steel bane
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do you guy triple potency merileth ? @limber lion

brazen zodiac
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so like "hectic cleave add" or "cleave" add options in the sims are what u used?

steel bane
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go*

brazen zodiac
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or did you do some advanced sims shit

oak sky
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Which is why venth is normally go to in keys, less cleave prio more st and aoe prio

slow marsh
limber lion
oak sky
steel bane
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even for panth? gemsnotes?

slow marsh
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gemstones op

limber lion
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Yes

slow marsh
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and agi buff

limber lion
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Heirmir execute + Zoldyck execute

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=

brazen zodiac
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yeah, guessin you'd use that for basically any fight that has an add or series of adds up for a duration of time?

slow marsh
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Yeah when we are forced to use deathspike marileth jumps ahead i think, due to being able to get really high kevin uptime

balmy condor
limber lion
brazen zodiac
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xd

balmy condor
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its so trash it's not even funny

limber lion
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Yeh

slow marsh
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heirmer has agi buff, crit buff, mastery buff, massive execute dam

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Stonks

limber lion
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I was simming without Mnemonic Equipment for a long time

balmy condor
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I played it on one pull and then swapped marileth

limber lion
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and I didn't even realize

oak sky
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Heirmir execute does like 10k damage total a whole fight poggers

limber lion
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Free 73 dps

oak sky
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Damn right baby

limber lion
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on 4 execute targets

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very pog

brazen zodiac
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is there any point in including emeni in the sim?

oak sky
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Fuck emeni

brazen zodiac
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shit man hes tryin his hardest

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its hard being a glob

slow marsh
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she

oak sky
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She

slow marsh
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Princess btw

brazen zodiac
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LMFAO

marble hemlock
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idk oxi is my princess and i call him "he"

slow marsh
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What you and oxi do in bed is between you two

limber lion
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But yeah, get this

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The more overall damage you do = the more execute damage you will do

oak sky
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pepe5Head

grizzled jay
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has the Cryptic helm with this new gem been simmed yet? the one that gives chance for your cds to be refunded

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@fleet anchor PepeS

bleak sky
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ok so

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idk what happened

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but sin is feeling real bad in m+ KEKW

brazen zodiac
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XD

limber lion
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literally nothing changed

brazen zodiac
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i knew you were gonna say that

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lmfao

bleak sky
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yeah I know literally nothing changed

limber lion
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man's been playing too much sub

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unlucky

bleak sky
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I miss necrotic dagger thats all

brazen zodiac
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maybe you accidently unbounded like 30 of ur keys bro

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and ur secretly not pressing any buttons at all

bleak sky
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i'd have to bind 20 more keys to have 30 bound on sin

oak sky
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Bro

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I swear the new affix feels great

bleak sky
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WHAT

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you're nuts

brazen zodiac
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LOL

oak sky
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Them being in every pack feels good

glass tulip
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we had a hunter prelust on first mists boss so we had to 3 phase it pepehands

oak sky
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Its cooler than another boring miniboss

brazen zodiac
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every pug ive done has gotten to the first one and wiped then rqed

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lmfao

oak sky
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And you actually have to choose

bleak sky
oak sky
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Like unironically make a choice

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Its a trash mob not a miniboss

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I actually think its interesting

bleak sky
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yea the choice is: get CDR on trash, get Haste on bosses

oak sky
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Or run really fast

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WICKED

bleak sky
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S P E E D

oak sky
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I think it should be DR

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Tbh

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So you can live shit

bleak sky
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what can't you live

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sure soggy shield was nice but

oak sky
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Idk like the 5th severing smash on a higj ass key or whatever

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Like you could hold it for the right time and shit like that

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It could potentially be interesting situationally

bleak sky
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idk

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I'm trying to think of dungeons where you'd get soggodon

brazen zodiac
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oh

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nerco owns in cleave add

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well then

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@oak sky thx for the help :D

oak sky
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Np

bleak sky
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and that's just what? sanguine, theater and DoS?

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unless the DR was greatly OP I don't see a reason to take it

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it's 15% DR for 1 minute right?

fleet anchor
oak sky
slow marsh
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Yes

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It js

bleak sky
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it's just

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not that strong idk

slow marsh
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But it's also speed and you give up haste with dam proc or cd refund + mana

bleak sky
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sure you can save the miniboss for later on in the fight but

slow marsh
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Affix is just poop all around

bleak sky
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it's what ice said, you could've had haste or cdr for the fight

grizzled jay
slow marsh
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Like the affix is gonna make it to where you only take meta specs that can abuse the cdr stacking

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Also resetting a boss can give you two buffs

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Also the haste ad can one shot even on a 15/16

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And it jumps around everywhere and is generally annoying

limber lion
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It's so much unnecessary clutter, and on top of that it bugs out

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We killed the Haste-orb every time in Plaguefall

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we didn't get the Haste dude a single time

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Instead we kill the haste-orb, while there are still the 2 orbs left

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and the dude spawns

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even though it's supposed to spawn after all 3 are killed

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very annoying

oak sky
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Yeah thats the thing that bothered me we definitely had a bug or 2 with stuff

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But imo its a pretty decent affiz

limber lion
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Like we literally get the Shroud/Movement speed dude

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While his own orb is still alive

oak sky
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We ended up with him on stradama omegalul

limber lion
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I'm not a big fan of the affix, feels awful when you pull a pack or two with those in it

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and you literally cannot see nameplates

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because there's too many of them

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Gauntlet pull in SD

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was awful

glass tulip
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focus orb beforehand

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fuck your focus kick PepeLaugh

oak sky
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Gauntlet sucked this week in sd

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But we still timed easy

limber lion
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No, it's not even about focusing the targets or anything

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It's about there being too much clutter on the screen

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Like it's just unnecessary imo

oak sky
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Yeah thats definitely annoying

limber lion
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I mean it's fine for a Sub Rogue

oak sky
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I can agree with the clutter

limber lion
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Who can just

glass tulip
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im just saying to solve getting what you want in the clutter, although the clutter is bad

limber lion
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1-2-1-2-1-2-12-1-2-1

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but it's a massive pain in the ass for a sin boy

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trying to bleed everyone up

glass tulip
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you shouldnt have to kill all 3 orbs everytime, that just doesnt make sense

viral locust
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I was doing a Sanguine Depths with the sniper boy up from the affix on second boss.

limber lion
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just spamming tab trying to find targets that don't have bleeds on them yet

viral locust
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actually so aids.

glass tulip
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once 1 dies the guy should spawn and the other disappear

limber lion
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I just don't enjoy it when there's packs of 8 mobs

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and you slap 3 extra on top

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like it's already crowded, then it gets just unfunctional

viral locust
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Imagine if CT gave venomous wounds though.

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;_;

limber lion
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Useless

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You're already at 100% energy all the time

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with 17 garrotes and 13 ruptures

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that you have to maintain

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Maybe that's why Sin felt worse for @bleak sky

viral locust
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yeah I think i might bite the bullet and actually learn sub for keys.

limber lion
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Sin is the best spec in the game (for me personally) on 1-3 targets

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It's fine on 4-6

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7+ is just

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idk

viral locust
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If only they didn't target cap Outlaw so I could go back to turning my brain off in cleave for keys.

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those were the days.

obtuse robin
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marelith on panth right

oak sky
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heirmir

obtuse robin
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raid starts soon

limber lion
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Heirmir or Merelith

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both are fine

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doesn't matter

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I play Heirmir

obtuse robin
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ah ok

bleak sky
limber lion
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Because I can definitely say that trying to pinpoint the target you have to attack

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in a pack of 9 mobs

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is pretty aids

bleak sky
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oh yeah it feels like shit 100%

limber lion
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just going full single target on it

bleak sky
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even with somewhat decent plater

limber lion
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is just not a thing

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Gotta spread those garrotes early

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gl finding the target after those garrets

bleak sky
fleet anchor
# limber lion I hate it

I agree. I think the affix is dumb and adds very little to the game other than more nameplates 😛

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And the buff impact is really small anyway

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So it's just kinda pointless

grim tangle
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the affix made me switch to sub for keys, I've done like 4 keys as sub all of 9.1, but the extra lil adds that you don't wanna bleed are just terrible

limber lion
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Yeh

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I don't like it when an affix is annoying

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Like a boring affix is fine, whatever

grim tangle
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actually really good for sub for small pulls to have extra funnel

slow marsh
bleak sky
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hopefully they change the affix somehow

timid cloud
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WE DID IT BOYS

balmy condor
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My rank dropping

timid cloud
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On god?

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That boss fucking blows.

strange python
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Crit haste on duskwalkers sound right?

timid cloud
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Yes but...

strange python
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ty

alpine latch
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Are we still running the same talents for keys?

bleak sky
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as of right now yes

alpine latch
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tight

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I know it changes later

bleak sky
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gl in keys

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hope you enjoy the affix

amber fossil
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!oil

prisma monolithBOT
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timid cloud
slow marsh
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ay boys 2 pulls into pantheon and let me say

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im coming for ya

timid cloud
viscid spear
alpine latch
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yeah, 16 DoS was a mistake... lol

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7 minutes left and we haven't killed a boss yet

timid cloud
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LOL

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Holy fuck.

bleak sky
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bro

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how

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what happened

solid venture
fleet anchor
alpine latch
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WE GOT IT BOYS

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2:23 left

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Timing this bitch

fleet anchor
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Bosses are taking literal forever this week though

woven ruin
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There no reason to use the 262 alch trinket is there?

fleet anchor
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I did a 17 SD earlier and honestly most of the bosses took longer than the Normal raid bosses 🤣

upbeat needle
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C R A C K E D

nocturne radish
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!guide

prisma monolithBOT
upbeat needle
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jk only normal 😦

limber lion
upbeat needle
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shhhhh

limber lion
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but don't worry, mine is private so you can keep yours

upbeat needle
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SHHHHH

limber lion
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we can both flex then

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:')

upbeat needle
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normal is like

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no mechanics wtf

limber lion
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yeh

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normal was very bland

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got me hyped up for heroic/mythic though, so that's good

upbeat needle
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same

reef axle
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15 Theatre of pain was a nightmare.

violet hemlock
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I might have too little haste for sin dam... hastes stat weight is like at 3 for me

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lol

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tryiong to turn sub gear into a sin set

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crit is like 1.9 for reference

upbeat needle
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lmao our fucking blood DK got tier

violet hemlock
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normal tier?

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or hc

upbeat needle
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normal

upbeat needle
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I'm at like 17% rn and its chill

glass tulip
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I want to perform well in pantheon but also swapping to necro in the middle of the raid and having to swap back ResidentSleeper

limber lion
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You can perform well with Venthyr

violet hemlock
glass tulip
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yeah I'll be doin my best with it

brazen zodiac
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xd

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nerco on panth feels fun but kinda wack

glass tulip
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MM conduit could be spicy

balmy condor
glass tulip
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wat

obtuse robin
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what sim would be best for panth patchwerk?

glass tulip
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maim mangle

balmy condor
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Oh

glass tulip
balmy condor
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Why would you use that

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I thought you meant marksmanship

glass tulip
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bc I felt like not typing it out

balmy condor
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Maim is so dogshit though

glass tulip
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I'll try necro zoldycks next week

balmy condor
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Also maim on a fight where you’re casting fok

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And not using Doomblade

limber lion
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idk why people try to make mangle good

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I don't hear people going nuts over WPS or LP

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But Maim Mangle comes up so often

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idk why

violet hemlock
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😄

upbeat needle
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@limber lion How's venth Subt/DS/CT on Panth?

limber lion
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and MA honestly

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MA/MFD/CT

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DS gains value from the free CP's from SBS

upbeat needle
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this what I'm on rn

limber lion
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yeh that's good

winged basin
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can I be annoying and ask if my boi theotar is still bis for M+?

limber lion
upbeat needle
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I should run necro tbh

limber lion
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If you play Venth

winged basin
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also a 6month break to this game has demolished me LMAO, my brain hurts trying to remember everything

brazen zodiac
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i like subter on panth

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feels fun when the add spawns and u vanish to apply em

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why u think MA @limber lion ?

glass tulip
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obed probably

brazen zodiac
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oh thought he was rockin panth nerco

limber lion
brazen zodiac
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yeah yeah

limber lion
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MA = more combo points

brazen zodiac
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mhm

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mb thought u were talkin nerco

restive falcon
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wtih 4piece/doubble leggo is it viable to be venth or kyrian

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or is fae a must

limber lion
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in any scenario

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not 2p

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not double lego

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not 4p

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not 0 legendary 0 tier

glass tulip
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F

limber lion
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Kyrian is always bad

brazen zodiac
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give it to them STRAIGHT CEV

limber lion
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Venthyr is fine with double lego/4p

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but obviously Night Fae is just better

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Necro is a really good contender as well

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because of the nature of most fights in Sepulcher

brazen zodiac
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hm

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gettin 4 combo points from sbs is kinda pog

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my sims tellin me to run main mangle, is that normal for nerco or were yall sayin it was dog for venythr

limber lion
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just trust your sims

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conduits are super whatever

brazen zodiac
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yeah figured as much

wide ridge
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is there any way to manipulate halos on H dausegne?

upbeat needle
brazen zodiac
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yeah i do

arctic venture
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Doomblade is simc better to me than obidience, why?

brazen zodiac
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could be a million things, link it maybe

bleak sky
brazen zodiac
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sup minal

arctic venture
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Cellphone at moment

brazen zodiac
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okie dokie

arctic venture
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But I fell that strange

reef axle
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so mfd over vigor now?

arctic venture
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150 dps plus

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I also got the BIS trinket (NORMAL) but didint scale that good on simc too

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Small dps increase.

bleak sky
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what bis trinket

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phial?

arctic venture
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Versa one.

bleak sky
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idk

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linking sim is prob best

zinc frost
arctic venture
abstract lagoon
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Whats the best rogue raid wise spec

limber lion
arctic venture
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Billy seens all nice to me

limber lion
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Both are great

limber lion
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We don't play Deeper Stratagem on Venthyr

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Slap an MFD there and Obedience will take over instantly

arctic venture
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Simc told me to

bleak sky
bleak sky
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something is cursed in here

upbeat needle
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How the fuck are y'all dealing with tornadoes on heroic proto

limber lion
upbeat needle
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lmfaooo

arctic venture
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Mdf? Sorry

upbeat needle
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I guess I need to wasd harder

arctic venture
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Mfd, ?

abstract lagoon
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yea I am jsut wondering what seems to be the smoothest so far spec wise

zinc frost
arctic venture
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Gonna try it

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And vigor?

zinc frost
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MFD syncs better with flag

balmy condor
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vigor bad

arctic venture
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Blood still going better than obidience

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Jes

limber lion
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It probably values Doomblade because of the trinket

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You already get 27893457893425 vers from the trinket

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so the vers from Obedience is probably less valuable

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that's my best guess

arctic venture
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I c

torn atlas
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I get MFD, doomblade also. Don't have a sim handy as on phone atm tho.

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Ran about 10 different sims last night with several different combos and doomblade came out on top every time. Figured I'd just send it.

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Maybe low lashing conduit lvl?

formal zenith
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Is sigil trinket actually good?

balmy condor
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yes

formal zenith
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like bis at lfg? i am getting conflicting info

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we had a normal drop and trying ti figure out if i pass or take

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full bis mythic gear

kindred rapids
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hum, sim says to use MA in 4t cleave

somber hill
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does anyone know how to make a Weakaura for those new ring procs that like put a notification on screen when there is an available glowy thing on the ground to pic up?

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the ring procs from the crafted rings

hollow talon
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what's sin simming at currently for people doing heroic rn?

bleak sky
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10.1

oak sky
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i was doing 12.7k

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on pantheon

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then we like

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late killed renewal

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@limber lion u have an opinion on necro vs venth for lihuvim

bleak sky
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i got an opinion for you

brazen zodiac
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im most gettin 9k on pnath with necro

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probs just playin dogshit

bleak sky
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keep in mind agreon has cracked gear

brazen zodiac
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can i drop a log of it agreon and maybe u can see where im trolling?

bleak sky
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absolutue cracked gear

brazen zodiac
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yeah but hes also a cracked gamer

nocturne geode
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what makes first sigil have such juice for a 5 min cd

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just the vers?

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or does it scale p big when others have it too as your cov?

formal zenith
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ya im wondering the same thing

oak sky
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@bleak sky aight whats the opinion

balmy condor
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opinion: encrypted is a trash ass affix

oak sky
brazen zodiac
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havent tried it hard enough yet

timid cloud
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Uhhhh….

oak sky
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i like it

timid cloud
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It’s okay, it’s fresh.

oak sky
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feels fresher than miniboss

timid cloud
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Yeah.

balmy condor
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it's literally 1 mini boss

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instead of 4

timid cloud
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I think the shooter guy sucks though.

formal zenith
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hit the prio target and let the other dps in your group deal with it ;p

balmy condor
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you just take the haste buff

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over and over and over and over

timid cloud
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He like is overtuned to one tap.

balmy condor
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because none of the effects are good

timid cloud
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The CDR guy?

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I was always told to kill spherical.

oak sky
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cdr one is really solid

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so

balmy condor
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cdr one didn't actually work in 2/3 of my keys

oak sky
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what to run on lihuvim

balmy condor
oak sky
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i havent done enough research

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whispyr what did u run

timid cloud
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Really???

balmy condor
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I've done 1 pull on lihuvim

oak sky
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fuck

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necro or venth sound better

balmy condor
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venth probably

oak sky
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idk how heavy the aoe is

bleak sky
oak sky
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ok

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venth it is

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i trust you guys

fleet anchor
bleak sky
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so

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liutenants > prideful > this dog shit trash fucking affix

timid cloud
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I think it’s a Venthyr funnel boss, it’s more ST than anything.

fleet anchor
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Even more trash when playing Sub and the Haste is no good 😛

bleak sky
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YEP

timid cloud
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Probably only take CT.

oak sky
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but play ct yes?

timid cloud
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Yeah.

bleak sky
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I've managed to make groups kill CDR one tho

timid cloud
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I didn’t take CT & it still felt fine.

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I could’ve though, probably should’ve.

oak sky
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ok then

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probably my least personal tced raid boss

timid cloud
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Not much to think about.

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I just saved MFD for the add that you kill.

hollow talon
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do we go nadija or theotar for venth for raid rn

bleak sky
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theo

hollow talon
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kk ty

oak sky
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im going dashing on lihuvim

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cds line up better for the adds

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at least for my raid

hollow river
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for the big adds on heroic?

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obe seemed good to me

oak sky
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first tier acquired

bleak sky
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the worst one

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or is that head

oak sky
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head

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i did no damage on lihuvim

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lol

brazen zodiac
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lol

hollow river
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pog congrats bro

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why no damages?

oak sky
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no idea

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tbh

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probably bad pad

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not pressing ct enough

hollow river
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oof

oak sky
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and we killed as vendetta came up

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and i played for team with cds

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didnt go obe

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etc

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ill take 1 shit parse for a tier piece

balmy condor
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agreon on that week 2 parse grustle

oak sky
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its just a cool flex

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thats it

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rather get tier than a parse though

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that was my deal with the devil

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on lihuvim

hollow talon
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any idea why my sim is so low

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anything glaringly wrong here?

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or is it just cause lack of weapons

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my outlaw sim is 10.1k

balmy condor
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mfd is better than vigor

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other than that seems okay

hollow river
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heroic parses are w/e agroaner

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no more huokan for us to need a 90+ average for

glad siren
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so i did sub first 10 pulls and sin the next 10 and sin just felt better for me

hollow river
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on what

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lithium boss?

glad siren
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pantheon

hollow river
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yeah for sure

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sin feels amazing on that boss

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necro sin on that boss probably the most fun in the game

balmy condor
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I ate shit 10 times and then went to a gourmet restaurant 10 times and the restaurant was better

hollow river
hollow talon
hollow river
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says the sub rogue main

oak sky
balmy condor
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no shot am I playing sub on pantheon bro

half tartan
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on Prototype, when it does the hand, can we cloak the red circle things and stay on boss we are having a bit of an issue pushing it and they wanna squeeze more damage

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hand being the venthyr grip in

balmy condor
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you should hold cloak for it in p3 as well

half tartan
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ty

glass tulip
#

sub 1%s on halondrus fuuuuuuuuuuu

oak sky
#

ROFL I DESYNCED VANISH

#

LMAOOOOO

#

trolled away r2

lapis trail
#

venth or necro for pantheon?

balmy condor
#

necro

oak sky
#

idk what to go on xymox

balmy condor
#

venth sub

oak sky
#

nah

#

definitely not in heroic lol

balmy condor
slow marsh
#

Venth sub

oak sky
#

venth sin it is

#

dont want to swap between

slow marsh
#

Fair

oak sky
#

swap to necro

slow marsh
#

Obed makes flag come up in intermission

oak sky
#

i mean

#

so you just send it into the biggest add

#

yer

slow marsh
#

Depends how fast your group kills them

oak sky
#

i got agi tea

#

Smoge

slow marsh
#

Play nadj adds are nice

#

Send flag on xymox and spread bleeds / mfd reset for stacks

oak sky
#

im gonna play nadjia now

#

lmao

lapis trail
#

MFD for panth or vigor?

slow marsh
#

Neither

oak sky
#

dont scare himm

slow marsh
#

Necro with DS

oak sky
#

but yeah necro ep subt ds ct

slow marsh
#

And zold

glass tulip
#

or venth ma mfd

oak sky
#

which is worse but still a good option if you dont have necro

slow marsh
#

I mean door is nice I guess

#

Lithium is easier than halondrus right?

#

Seems so

hollow river
#

venth sub on arty felt good

#

no cap on a stack

oak sky
#

lithium is extremely easy

hollow river
#

ya

oak sky
#

once you have pushing the add worked out it falls over

hollow river
#

we killed it in 2 pulls lol

oak sky
#

mechs are decent but not difficult

slow marsh
#

We did one yolo pull and got it to 50% or something

#

And that was with inting on the add so it still spawned

#

I need a diff trinket for pantheon, countermeasure felt like poo

#

Gonna slot in iqd next week instead for the memes

glass tulip
#

7/11H peepoHappy

bleak sky
#

0 parse

#

wait it's only you? tf

glass tulip
#

kyrian sub is so much better on that fight lol

bleak sky
#

oh absolutely

glass tulip
#

but im probably the only one today so far

bleak sky
#

o that's how it works?

#

pog

glass tulip
bleak sky
#

ye i see

glass tulip
#

here is all sin

bleak sky
#

outlaw has 7

glass tulip
#

75 sub, thats almost 100 of us kekw

balmy condor
#

people playing blindside

hollow river
#

people playing w/e sims better on a patchwerk sim

balmy condor
#

it's not even like

#

that much better

#

if it even is at all

#

EP/mfd wins against BS/deeper for me

glass tulip
spice spire
#

I prefer griefing raid Sinscheme

bleak sky
#

how was raid quake?

#

I dropped by your stream but went on to do some rage keys

spice spire
#

Painful

#

Stream frames were also mimicking my mental and dropping like crazy by the end of it Sinscheme

bleak sky
#

so a good raid then

#

pog

spice spire
#

We certainly killed a boss

balmy condor
#

I flame him for different reasons

#

cause for some reason he couldn't even be asked to change talents

grim tangle
#

seli is such a chad playing CT on halondrus

#

guy doesn't give a fuck

balmy condor
#

he picked his talents at the start of the raid

#

and then just never changed

spice spire
#

Exactly

grim tangle
#

I wish I was that cool

spice spire
#

He’s a chad

bleak sky
hollow talon
#

what ilvl can i upgrade a weapon to this week with valor

glass tulip
#

probably 1 upgrade from 255

#

so like 259 or 262 or something

hollow talon
#

o thats p weak

gusty mirage
bleak sky
#

We gotta add an asterisk to the "trust the sims" statement

oak sky
#

lol we griefed xymox and still killed

gusty mirage
#

use your ears and SEE it for yourself

bleak sky
#

Sim it*

*but not deeperstrats/blindside

gusty mirage
#

it'll sort itself out when people start getting tier

#

I aint worried

bleak sky
#

Hopefully

glass tulip
#

I thought it was common knowledge that bs/ds is sim bait

gusty mirage
#

it's not sim bait

glass tulip
#

well

#

thats true but

gusty mirage
#

for pure patchwerk in 9.1 it was bis

#

people just feelcrafted some nonsense about it "oversimming"

oak sky
#

wait

#

if i got 1 tier piece

#

should i try to be in a liquid run

bleak sky
#

Yeah

oak sky
#

can u link me their disc

#

i need to see what times or whatever

glass tulip
#

!liquidtrade

#

in any chat

oak sky
#

im not in their disc tho

#

oh

#

right

glass tulip
#

in any twitch chat

oak sky
#

ye

#

i gotcha

gusty mirage
#

did they fix the first sigil not resetting yet?

#

or naw

oak sky
#

no

#

the other rogue in my guild got it

gusty mirage
#

oh in case anyone's wondering

#

tazavesh streets

#

is fucking horrible

bleak sky
#

Ye I watched some people do it

gusty mirage
#

over by 27 minutes? 107th best in the world

bleak sky
#

And the only ones timing 15s are absolute fucking Chad gamers

hollow talon
#

its really hard for a 15

gusty mirage
#

I did a +16

hollow talon
#

idk what they were thinking

gusty mirage
#

and I regret every moment of it

#

I got a +19 Starege

bleak sky
#

Yeah you were fucked oxi

gusty mirage
#

idk if its timeable on a 16

#

tbh

bleak sky
#

Getting a taza key is rip

gusty mirage
#

at least not yet

bleak sky
#

It's timeable

oak sky
#

can one of you just link me their discord

#

or

glass tulip
#

ask James

oak sky
#

dm it

glass tulip
#

he'll let you know if its possible

gusty mirage
#

the best +16 is 1 minute over time lol

bleak sky
#

People gotta be very clean right

#

Like perfect run

gusty mirage
#

deaths have nothing to do with it

#

39 minutes for all trash + 5 bosses

#

is fucking hard bro

glass tulip
#

yeah but if we can clear 18s in other dungeons

#

then it shouldnt be so hard lol

bleak sky
#

Taza is clearly overtuned

gusty mirage
#

the trash is tanky af

#

and tyran makes the bosses last forever

#

and the trash fucking HURTS

bleak sky
#

They might give it more time, they might nerf the key itself

#

But it's omega tuned

gusty mirage
#

tbh they gotta tweak down mob health

#

and maybe add 3 minutes

#

and it'll be fine

bleak sky
#

3 min? Sheesh

gusty mirage
#

the commander dude before you take the portal up to last boss, lasted for a minute and a half

#

w/ me popping vendetta and our mage combusting

#

lol

#

for like 6% trash

#

nice

bleak sky
#

They gave the harder dungeons last season a minute max right?

gusty mirage
#

ggs

#

bro you need SO much trash to hit 100%

#

we full cleared the first boss room, and like half the fucking market to hit 100%

bleak sky
#

I gotta play around with MDT tomorrow

gusty mirage
#

bosses were surprisingly fine

#

tuning wise

bleak sky
#

I still need both taza keys

gusty mirage
#

except the mailroom boss aoe

#

its toxic

#

can't evasion the physical damage

bleak sky
#

I'm not looking forward to zoo boss/mail boss

gusty mirage
oak sky
#

did they alr do splits this week

grim tangle
#

grand menagerie took us over 7 minutes

oak sky
#

for normal

gusty mirage
#

wild

grim tangle
#

but we didn't know what we were doing you have to get damage bonus stacks and shit

bleak sky
#

Next week only

oak sky
#

so should i just do normal then

gusty mirage
bleak sky
#

Yeah go for it

#

Also that

oak sky
#

aight cool

gusty mirage
#

possibly get a 2nd pc

#

2pc will be giga

bleak sky
#

2nd piece gives you rank 1 parses

#

Ez

gusty mirage
#

like without a doubt

#

lol

#

I played necro w/ zold for pantheon

#

because we were struggling in p3

#

hard

glass tulip
#

in our normal run now so far 0/3 on tier

#

overall

bleak sky
#

P3 is def hard

gusty mirage
#

lihuvim should be fun tomorrow

grim tangle
#

it's not

gusty mirage
#

we pulled it 3 times and I'm already over the robot noises

#

it's going to be a long tier

bleak sky
#

Beep boop mofo

glass tulip
#

it is a fun fight

#

halondrus very fun very hectic

balmy condor
glass tulip
gusty mirage
#

HAC sims back on the table boys

#

necro lovers rejoice

timid cloud
#

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

oak sky
#

i like these bosses

#

🙂

#

havent outright disliked any besides the first one

grave trail
#

so do i have to level my 40 renown Necro now

#

or we still fae boys once we got the piecez

junior rampart
#

God! Assa dmg feels bad in keys.

balmy condor
#

pantheon is sin rogue dream town

glass tulip
#

normal pantheon is a joke

#

3:13 kill wtf

grave trail
balmy condor
#

to be optimal, yeah

#

fae is probably okay

oak sky
#

few other fights necro will probably be pretty strong too

grave trail
#

fine ill lvl it on the weekend

#

pain

drifting cosmos
#

do we know how can we sockets S3 items yet?

slender berry
#

You get lucky

#

That's the only way atm

drifting cosmos
#

🤔 guess gotta wait 9.2.5

lapis trail
#

does the doomblade lego go crit haste?

#

and should i go doomblade for necro sin?

#

i read the pinned message i just want to make sure thats still the play lol

torn atlas
#

Pins are kept pretty well upto date so should be accurate.
Everything you've said sounds right.

lapis trail
#

i really just want to maximize damage on pantheon

#

i hate being low

timid cloud
#

Bleed & bone it all.

#

Then pray you don’t get any mechanics near you & that you crit.

#

Maximum damage!

balmy condor
#

FAQ is updated

#

with everything

jaunty kayak
#

what should be better to play for hc pantheon? marileth or heirmir? or perhaps which fight style should i sim them for? imma run zoldyck most likely

balmy condor
#

I don't think there's a big difference tbh

#

I played marileth

#

heirmir might be slightly better

#

2 target and 4 target sims are both fine for it

jaunty kayak
#

aight, cheers whispyrRHlove

balmy condor
#

a fight where simming something other than 1 target 5 min patchwerk is actually viable

sick aspen
#

with double on use trinkets is there a way to use the sims to figure out the best usage?

prisma monolithBOT
glass tulip
#

where did mecha come from thinkge

rigid vessel
#

!blindside

prisma monolithBOT
#

Macroing Ambush to Mutilate only works with the use of a addon.
It comes with the downside that it often requires multiple key presss.
Suggested addon to use(Gnome Sequencer):http://tiny.cc/mxb6tz
Showcase Video: #assassination message

balmy condor
noble shadow
#

@sick aspen if ur talking about when to press them then use Quick Sim and it will tell you at the bottom the timing of when to press them

lusty oar
balmy condor
#

so if you top gear

#

and it's the top slot

#

use that first

#

and then everything on cd

glass tulip
#

no

#

no outlaw

balmy condor
#

yeah I'm not convinced about outlaw on pantheon

lapis trail
#

i was getting blasted by the other rogue in my guild who went outlaw

sick aspen
#

Thanks @noble shadow that's what I was looking for, and @balmy condor didn't know top gear did it that way with the position

lapis trail
#

but i am also not good at anything but ST

oak sky
balmy condor
#

sin good

oak sky
#

Numbers dont lie

vestal wren
timid cloud
#

3 DPS

vestal wren
#

covenant fight def. sounds like a sin fight tbh

glass tulip
#

agreon u cute

oak sky
#

i know

delicate smelt
#

i am without set maxed Venth with Obe. Will there be big difference if i switch to Fae? I dont have enough renown on Fae and i am lazy to switch it

#

everyday for Venth and back

deft vault
#

How does the tier acquisition from vault work? like if i get one chest from pvp it will be a tier piece but what ilvl ?

glass tulip
#

the correct ilvl for the vault item

#

im if not mistaken

deft vault
#

so if i get a 272 the tier piece will be 272?

vestal wren
oak sky
#

true

#

i am better than every player in a higher ranked guild than me, every private logging player, every higher prog player than me, due to my sick log on prototype pantheon

#

WICKED

timid cloud
#

On what the kids would call a “grustle”

oak sky
#

"yer"\

timid cloud
#

Gonna really enjoy prototype when we get 4P

#

Ecksdee

oak sky
#

2t should still be fun but 4t is gonna suck lol

timid cloud
#

Yeah.

raw shadow
#

update bot to cover new prog @zenith tiger

misty holly
#

Phail doesn't interact with any talents or class powers right?

balmy condor
#

no trinket does, correct

misty holly
#

If that is the case why is it considered so much better for Outlaw than Sub/sin?

balmy condor
#

why is what considered better

misty holly
#

Looking at Bloodmallet they have it as an s tier trinket for outlaw rogues, but only good for the other specs.

balmy condor
#

oh phial

#

phial is hasted

#

so more haste = better

misty holly
#

is there a rtb haste proc?

oak sky
#

probably just because outlaw generally likes haste, then with 2p I might be wrong but it seems like their mastery proc scales with attack speed, which would make their 2p proc more which makes them like haste more then they also play venthyr dreadblades in the bis profile i believe, which means they don't have alacrity, which means they want haste more than they normally do

rotund oak
#

./vanish

oak sky
#

i think it would because its based on off hand but that was definitely something idk because im not an omega outlaw guy

rotund oak
#

MG is atks proced by MH

oak sky
#

oh

#

maybe i mixed something up

rotund oak
oak sky
#

yeah i was thinking of the combat potency passive and i got mixed up a bit

rotund oak
#

its complicated when it comes to attack speed coz more MH atks would result to more procs

#

but the chance is fix,doesnt go up or down,its 30%

oak sky
#

ye

#

the bottom line tl;dr for that guy is that haste is really good for outlaw

#

specifics dont matter too too much

rotund oak
#

ofc,its rly huge this tier

#

and its a very good stat in general

#

especially for ST scenarios

zenith tiger
mint valve
#

on pantheon fight, i feel like when i shiv i dont ahve time for envenoms int othe shiv target because i have to keep up dots.

#

is it ok to let them fall on other targets to envenom? or just always keep up dots?

balmy condor
#

otherwise just dot

mint valve
#

otherwise just shiv for mutilate damage boost?

#

and dot

#

only during vendetta/shiv combo we envenom

#

got it! thanks

strange silo
#

do you guys sim yourself with full buffs and default settings or with the stuff u actually use/have?

oak sky
#

usually full buffs but honestly it probably doesnt matter

vale marten
#

is raidbots nightly version fixed?

cold rampart
#

should we go haste or crit ?

hollow nexus
#

Do the zereth mortis pieces work in the raid?

#

Since the 233 helmet gave me like 8 dps xD

strange silo
placid dawn
#

You delayed TB too much so you missed some casts. Same thing for MFD. You delayed flag for a long time for the second cast and didnt even pair it with vendetta.

#

You also lost a LOT of energy from being capped

upbeat needle
#

toxic blade ??

placid dawn
#

ah, its called shiv now :v

upbeat needle
#

lmfao

#

He doesn't have to sync flag w vendetta

placid dawn
#

Also finished a couple times with 3 CP

#

he doesnt, but he casts the second flag at 1m50s at that point might aswell pair it with vendetta

upbeat needle
#

he'd want to shiv with vendetta

#

and have mfd for flag

placid dawn
#

then the third cast is at 2m.10s

upbeat needle
#

ah yeah

placid dawn
#

so, he either goes for the easy play and pairs it, or just casts on CD

glass tulip
#

its a fight exactly the same length

#

so in a perfect world you could have done exactly the same, theoretically

fading mason
#

When playing obediance is it better to snyc it with ever Vendetta or Just press it on cs

placid dawn
#

I dont see a third vendetta casts on that log

#

I think you still launch on CD unless you wont miss a cast

upbeat needle
#

Halondrus is sick fight

strange silo
#

ok so in short im just stupid and didnt press my cooldowns at the right time and need to watch for my energy

upbeat needle
#

you're just learning

#

no need to put yourself down bout it

placid dawn
#

yea, dont worry about mistakes, as long as you know about them and improve its all good

strange silo
#

thats really nice to hear thanks i needed that :d and yea gotta go for the improve thats why i asked for help

glass tulip
#

opener was pretty accurate as well

#

well done

strange silo
#

really? shouldnt it be mut-snd-mut-garrote-flag-rupture-vendetta

glass tulip
#

yeah but pressing vendetta 1 global early counts as pretty accurate to me lol

upbeat needle
#

also you should be playing triple potency w theo

#

low soothing shade uptime too, make sure you under them umbrellas when they spawn

#

damage pots good too

#

all will help you

lunar otter
#

any one runnin zold in keys still ?

jade minnow
#

We run sub

#

I have tried assa on those affixes and its pain

tribal mauve
lunar otter
#

ye might be back to sub time (

solid venture
#

necro sin in TOP , sub everywhere else tbh

upbeat needle
#

I knew a rogue named Link once

#

he was sick

solid venture
#

nope ^^ i play on twisting nether and my discord name isn't the same as my character name kekW

dusty ether
#

So how much SIM BAIT is the First Sigil trinket? I got it and increased my dps by 20 ST. I feel as though there is no shot a 5 min CD, even if it was a bazillion verse, can actually be good.

#

I don't even know what trinkets I want to go for, probably go for So'leah's and Phial I guess.

hollow river
#

Especially on any fight over 5 minutes

hollow river
#

Shadowgrasp totem is simming really well for most atm

#

So’leahs isn’t looking great, but looks decent

subtle tundra
#

not in this channel

solid venture
#

ah shit

pseudo hamlet
#

Domination Sockets are extremely powerful, should we keep the items in the bank/bag for the Maw/Torghast? They're seriously giving us a big upper hand.

hollow river
spice spire
keen plaza
#

Where can i find all the BiS gear from raid and dungeon?

bleak sky
#

There's no bis list

bleak sky
pearl ingot
arctic venture
#

Should I craft Duskwalker or Zoldyck?

#

to replace my Obedience

#

Ive seen people wearing zoldyck

limber lion
#

Zoldyck is only used on Pantheon and in m+

#

You would use Duskwalkers everywhere with the tier set