#assassination
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Yeah that makes sense...
Get that 226 catch up gear.
Isn't Whispyr the one who got like 7 Mythic daggers?
Yes
Yesterday's podcast is a blur
And that’s what it was regarding 
I remember things that were said but not by who
lol
Yeah, that makes total sense then
I figured I just misread it. I was skimming and didn't know if something stupid happened
Or if I just misread it
Now I'm glad I asked
isnt a full set of catchup gear like 7k anima?
that's like 2 days in korthia / world quests, super ez
Thank you!
LEGOGGOO!!

Yikes. Can't skip to Zereth.
vault has some shananigans, some ppl have like... the same item in vault every week
sad eu noises i guess ill watch a stream
It was for Alts only ? 
@fading wigeon 
What can’t you skip?
252 IDO 
If only I could have been so lucky, although I also only got to 4/10M 😦
Bro don’t fucking say 9.1 campaign gates 9.2 campaign please
lmao
Like he hadn’t on any character
I haven’t
unreal
Wait?
you only need some of it i think
How 
I only do campaign to the point I actually need
No point to continue
I’ve done some of it
I'm literally on the first chapter of the camp.
And can't skip.
I'll let you know if it lets me.
When does NF take over for assa?
4p
until then just keep rockin venth?
Sure but raw numbers are on the spreadsheet in pins 
capping off my necrolord renown with the intro story 
That’s responsible gaming
Anyone heard about the rogue sims yet? Any news at all?
better late than never boiz
Literally in the pins
I have 1 last chance at a 2nd dagger in raid tonight
i had the heroic one.. So i'm in the same boat.. if one drops tonight i'll flip out lol
Noooooooo ;(
Shaman discord makes me grateful for @balmy condor
lol
What happened
Their ele Sims were using rank 1 lightning bolt for the entire expac
Longer cast time
No one noticed till now

The other class discords are pretty bad
Reroller Weirdge
Coming from monk main Agreonr 
Welp. It's been real boys. Sub life until 4 set
F in chat
Yeah?
Cope
Just like you got double EON week 1?
You'll still wanna be sub till lego2

Tbh

I think its time to retire rank 2 healing all stars
But then we gotta lvl up NF dont we? 😦
any na gamers that can confirm if valor reseted, apparently it didn't reset for jpc or is it a bug
It’s not resetting until next week
Which makes sense given we’re still doing s2 stuff
Can't get IO on anymore on alts though IIRC so you can't upgrade if you didn't push beforehand.
FYI the intro campaign quests give Renown for anyone needing to work on NF still 😄

Y’all getting to campaign quests?
Phial was nerfed?
Yes
Rip
Yeah it's been 4 hours where's bis list whisper
Just me an my Kyrian pal by ourselves against the Maw.
😂
Seems fine
Such immersion 😄
Welcome to a52
what am i seeing
Immersion
i sincerely dont know
Walking on water 🤤
Shards don’t work
it gets nice once you finish ch1 of campaign
hey so i am looking and i can use my vault coins on flux should i do that now?
it is like 500 flux per coin?
If you have nothing good in your vault go for it
Can someone tell me what the best assassination race is for horde (in 9.2)?
The one that looks the best
blood elf and orc are both good
Yeh good models
Nerfed Phial? Does this mean I don't have to farm it yet again?
I guess I will go belf then
Upright orc kinda stonks
Blood Elves master race
If the raid trinkets are decent, then you don’t have to
If they suck, we’re using countermeasure
Forgot about those 🤤
I hope we dont have to farm countermeasure again that would bang
Well it’s far and away the best trinket atm
Omfg you can walk on water?!
Considering you don’t have access to giga mythic raid trinkets
BACK TO THE SIM MINES WHISYPR
Bro the on use vers is stonks just trust me bro
It’s the only logical trinket
If if does prove out not to be bis then it will drop early for me...RNG and that trinket have been my expansion story
The int dagger went live with 0’s
LOL
Thats bis
People asking me what the best trinket is when items legitimately do not function in game
Posi vibes so far 😂

I woke up today with 97 DM’s
Rogues dont sleep wym
And a good 60 of them were dumb questions I don’t have the time to unpack
You're kidding?
And the other 30 are answered in the pins right
Pretty much

The last 7 were my gf wishing me a happy patch day and telling me to not yell at people
ohh how lovely
1/2 the questions are dumb, 1/2 are in the pins and the last 1/2 we don't know yet
Yah except it’s not a happy patch day and I’ve already yelled at people
And I just got out of bed

Thing is you cant really do much this week anyway
why is whispyr yelling
Happy patch day
jk
Time to yell
can't wait for 9.2 launch, the new content such as m+ tazave- what's that? m+ tazavesh isn't in? oh well that's okay I will enjoy playing with my second legend- what's that? second legendaries not for 5 weeks? that's okay i will enjoy clearing the new rai- whats that? the new raid isn't in? that's alright i will enjoy working towards my tier bonu- whats that? the tier isn't in? that's okay i will enjoy my class chang- what's that? my class has no changes? that's okay i will go do m+ in anticipation of the rai- what's that? there's no benefit to doing m+ this week? new zone is in? that's so cool i will go and kill the world bos- what's that? the world boss isn't in? that's okay i will go enjoy uh..... h..
Dead week
it torghast boss rushmode available? super funtimes?
I am excited to start the rep grind and to unlock flying soon 
They don’t make patches like they used to
Do the chapters, a 19 for the 15 next week maybe do a heroic/mythic clear for a shot at daggers

Log out for the week
We do have content
you have lore week
Its the campaign
🙂
I remember when expansions had more than 3 raids

i remember when you had to travel for 6 hours to get to a dungeon.

Dont worry bro we get our good friend popcorn
Its so depressing when you go back on each expansions raids/dungeons then you flip yo SL page
Uphill, both ways, through the snow
And you are like bruhhhh
Remember when you got all your buffs and then you got ganked at the entrance of bwl
Good times
Okay, so today I still use Obe on my cloak and I don't swap to Duskwalkers until I have 4pc and double legendaries open up, right?
No I don’t actually
if you haven't done nf yet, you apparently get a lot of renown from teh zereth mortis story stuff
Is bwl blackwing lair
Cause I was 5
might want to turn that on before you do that
Did i figure it out
😂 😂 😂 😂
lol there is one right outside of haven and I did it and was like huh
Because it just makes them easier
I couldve doored half of this
Door was pretty nice in korthia too
the only good thing about warlock 9.1.5
yup
me: waiting 1min 16sec to doordash again to get a treasure
boi I love this patch already
So what's the play legendary wise? Are we upgrading to R7 Obe ASAP then sitting on it til double legendaries come out?
Fair enough
But do you thinkit's even worth upgrading right now?
Or just sit on it and wait
Yup
So there's not much point
Well, we could be crafting Duskwalkers now to have to go immediately into
Yeah, fair enough
Wait for the prices to hopefully drop a bit
duskwalkers will probs be craft on ring so you wont really get a big increase from 10ilvls as no primary stat if you have 262 already also if you wanted to be really patient 😄
or w/e the r7ilvl is
Yeah, Duskwalkers goes on ring according to Whispyr's spreadsheet
Converted 
Oh shit
I didn't even look at Dslice. We legit just run Duskwalkers for everything
nice

I was glossing over Dslice stuff altogether
Gz
huh
idk if I can kill a rare with 747k health
Some of them have like 1m HP if I remember right, it's pretty wild
Even in full tier/double leggo I had a hard time with a few of the rares on the PTR
The fox Vexis is a SoB because of his 2 different enrages and he spawns more adds really often if you can't gouge/stun them repeatedly
So the game crashes half-way through the Battle of Ardenweald and you cannot skip it and HAVE to do it if you're fresh fresh.
The nf campaign?
Door of Shadows is broken af in this zone
It's part of the Chains of Dom campaign.
It disconnects you right after the Sylvie encounter and sends you Oribos so you have to restart. ENDLESS CYCLE IS RIGHT.

Hopefully they'll get a fix out for it soon. Ya' boy is trying to get into Zereth
I'm trying one more time but then I will.
Hola amigos which convenant will be best for ass?
I got twenty nine out of thirty and DCd. Apparently they resolved this issue 8 months ago. 😂
It's in the pinned messages my friend.
sorry what?
Just talking about the Battle of Ardenweald bug still being in the game.
If you haven't done it and you're fresh you can't play the game.
Until the fix the bug.
who do i hit up for raid coaching 👀
Just post logs if you’d like a log review
You can dm me
let me know what you're looking for.
night fae now viable with double legendary?
Mhmm
sorry i see the pinned message now
Hows new patch going, our NA frens
I’m only like 4/9 chapters on 9.1 campaign and I got the quest to go to zeroth mortis when I logged in
Luuuucky.
we still wanna farm phial right?
dude are you guys stuck in combat lol
yeah lol and reloadin

im just perma stuck in combat and cant do the portal quest

Zone is cool.
is there any way to still sim for frost set?
Hi all - new here and not been long playing assassination rogue. Did I read correctly that best cov for us is going to be Night Fae?
So worth crafting the new leggos now? If not going to the max 291 version? Ie duskwalker ring
so far, yes; but only with 4 set + 2 leggos, until then, it stays venthyr
Cool, thanks.
if theres a way to run an old build on simc whispyr might know about it
im guessing ur optimizing for a final raid tonight or something yeah? because the gems are big dead in sepulcher but u prob know that already
xd
I’m trying not to sim myself for Torghast can you assist kind sir?
It's always been an hour.
I swear it was 10 minutes
but maybe im overdosing on copium
Got it I'm officially fried
@tropic topaz ?
it right there
yeah give me your teamviewer info

why did i not see that
Over 61% of the population or 177 million people in the United States need some sort of vision correction according to Jobson Research. 61% need eyewear due to “nearsightedness” (myopia) and 31% need vision correction due to age related “farsightedness” (presbyopia).
is tazavesh available for m+ this week?
no
Never done Tazavesh before. Have to do both mode this week to have practice. 
i swear it wasnt there for me 
i didnt see it either ur chillin bro
Is raidbors updated with phial nerf? So it's still bis?
most raid trinkets are completely non-functioning
thinking about trinkets atm is a waste of time
just did a key without shards. that sucked lol
I more meant out of dungeons
oh
Just as a general curiosity than to put too much thought into anything
yeh probably still good
You notice the difference?
I wouldn't.
it was hard to quanitfy, but I knew it was missing so maybe it was a little bit placebo too
I haven't changed my shard set a single time since I swapped to frost
because I honestly don't see the point in switching them around for m+ and raid
I could never tell the difference in an environment like m+ where every pull, every dungeon, every group and every day is different.
there really isnt a point. I only use m+ as a means for raiding, so i rarely do high enough ones for little things like that to matter
Bruh
Of course you were
with tier set and double legendary
I'm talking about without tier set and without a second legendary
Or are you saying in m+
thats what Im talking about too lol
im saying the bosses in my dungeon still felt good
Yeah well the dungeon environment is completely different to the raid environment.
obviously different talents and things but its not like my dmg vanished in that regard
Well you don't lose anything in m+ in 9.2
other than the small shards
but we lose over 2k+ dps in raid
how does that loss compare to other classes?
if you want to reset it, you can go into torghast and beat the first boss then leave
But our tier is pretty strong ngl, so we do have it good whenever we score that.
yeah, im not too worried about it
still on the fence about starting off as sub though lol
i enjoy both very much
Just play em both
no harm in that
tier set changes dynamically, so you don't really need to gear one way or the other
can change covenants freely as well
i probably will, but when i do that i just feel like gearing-wise im kinda not doing as well as I could on either
shouldn't really matter too much the first few weeks honestly
usually you just take whatever is higher ilvl
yeah thats true
and start worrying about stuff like rings/trinkets a bit further down the line
gonna be interesting legendary wise then
when we get to make 291s I guess I would make a duskwalkers
then a finality?
just to cover most of the bases
Yeh, that's the point when you have to lean one way or the other a bit for sure
But with items not being tradeable even if you have the legendary item, there's no hurry in rushing that either
Just play em both for a few weeks and see what feels better to you
Usually vault choices can spice it up as well
yeah i think thats the move. especially once I start feeling out the 2sets and 4sets
i dont really spend time on ptr, which im sure would have helped me make the choice by now
but yeah, either way, excited for both. think we're gonna smash regardless
for sure
what's your raiding deal? you racing?
Nah, I'm raiding with Colour 3 times a week. A more laid back approach compared to playing with the Method boys.
Don't have time for the RWF scene unfortunately.
nice, im sure a healthier and happer choice lol
Phial that bad now?
15% is a big nerf when the best trinkets are pretty close
im still simming lot of different gear though
Double on use is cursed af. Surely the eye trinket is an alternative
it just isnt :/
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tMJxgHLbPV4FGtFEPHParC
and haste is my best tea roll, oh boy
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4ik2ujyMvdBXQhxjxHS4De
It has to be for non fcm boi
Faulty counter measure thingy
well if you dont have FCM then you wouldnt be worried about having a double on use anyway lol
unless maybe shadowgrasp idk
Or codex
!pb
Deadly Poison doesn't apply on some casts like Garrote, Rupture, and Shiv.
It's a minor bug but "notable" in that it does have some noticeable impact on DPS.
Should be around a 100-200 dps loss
@marble hemlock @fleet anchor you're to blame for this timeline
whispyr already got his 4pc 
not a single empowered conduit slot is what i see
not having necro as best covenant at 80 
What’s happening whisp? You edgelord now?
...
I'm getting necro renown
You get so much renown from the questline.
because necro is g.. heaves goo... woo boy... necro is good
Ye out of boredom yesterday i leveled necro to 52 and will continue today to finally have all 4

new bis trinket btw
heard it here first
syncs with sepsis
very powerful
no cap
Haha. I got 80 today with NF so I’m all prepped for everything!
Im 80 kyrian 80 venth, 78 fae I think
maybe 79?
but im warming up to necro more and more
and I'm only at 55 atm
so uh
work needs to be done
Necro is pretty fun!
aight I hate kevin
I keep thinking theres a caster mob behind me
that's shooting at me
Just wait until you're stuck in combat and don't know why then realize Kevin is doing some shit
farming this
Necro is great fun with weaving in the spikes 😃
Yeah that’s triggering 😆 just need a cancel macro for it
:(
Nice bait nerd
How long for servers to go up do you guys reckon?
so thats in 30 minutes or so?
idk when maintenance is supposed to be for you guys on eu but yeah i guess so
It's ongoing rn
no dagger in vault, no switch to rogue for me by the looks of it
unless it gets nerfbat
Unironically I saw a Sub Necro the other day.
His rotation was boned the entire dungeon.
who here is going to play necro sin? or is everybody going for FAE?
Needless to say.
The people know my choice.
It was a Sub Necrolord in Plaguefall, if I recall correctly.
rn its looking like necro is gonna be pretty strong early on, and also pretty strong on cleave fights later
fae is better in pure st
at max borrowed power tho
so it's safe for me to go necro for progression?
oh welcome to stormreaver!
Morning! (UK) started playing again a month ago after a 5 year break and made a mage, realised I chose the wrong cov and got mad. 🤣 Yesterday I started a new toon, ASS rogue and boosted to 50. Chose to skip the quest line and opted for levelling using world quests, etc. Any tips or advice? I joined venthyr cov.
Will the 2 Set Shiv bonus for Sin affect Serrated Bone Spike (Necro ability)?
yes
this is a really broad question honestly
not sure where to begin
4 piece as well btw
sweet. thank you
Hey, quick question: is stat priority Haste - Crit - Vers - Mastery for 9.2. ?
Ok, pooling first. How do you tell how much you have pooled?
oh also I know you didn't do it, but the way you worded it makes it sound like you picked the wrong cov on your mage and decided to boost a new character and basically delete the mage, which is really funny to me
At this time you have to learn spells when to use them and defensives, as you don't have good stats ilvl ect just focus on the playstyle
Can't decide on best stats for unity as I like to play all 3 specs in all content :o
haste crit mast vers
with haste and crit being kind interchangeable
with tier, crit becomes better
so you'd end up with crit > haste > mast > vers
No, I still have the mage. I will eventually go back to it and change cov. I play with my hubby and wanted to join the same cov so we could progress together. 🙈
Thanks! And another quick one:
With Subterfuge talent do I need to get 2 garrotes in during the opener for maximum duration?
I will do that. Thank you.
no
only 1
2 garrotes in subterfuge was very specific to nyalotha
only patch we've ever done that
very cute :)
Hey mates , i missed out something about the sepsis shiv sync Oo
in the pins of #916546791472783371
pleasure
Sub seem to be the play in MM+ -_-

are there any talent changes for 9.2 in single target or m+?
ok thanks and the subterfuge and deeper is a st change then right?
yes
good morning whisp!
we runnin zoldyck and obed in m+?
dusk
Dusk everywhere
morning
dusk is only good with 4 piece
this blocks my SBS on nameplate... ideas?
im totally fine with that
Mine changes color if sbs is on
plater stuff right?
Yeh
elvui pleb here, tried a whitelist but somehow that doesnt work, maybe wrong spell id
same with shard of dyz, i kinda wanna get rid of that debuff
so im redoing my Obedience with haste/crit for the tier, up untill 4p+2leggo?
had it vers/crit for sub plays before, but haste/crit better no?
Yeah might be like 30 dps better
30 dps big dps, but i see your point hehe
obedience contiues on cloak for 9.2 right? Dusk goes ring?
ahh yeah unity on bracer
so what do weuse in keys atm then :/
same as always
Venth - obed up to set 4, 2 legoo then swtich to fae and use dusk
I havent read that much before 9.2 launch. Will assassination be far behind subtlety on raid? My guild already called me sus for playing assa in 9.1 xD
It’s not far behind at all
its what a few hundred dps for sim?
Yeah
So don't crucify me, but switched over to NF because never did the campaign so using the new content as a easy means to get some renown. Based on what I was seeing about using sepsis with vendetta and shiv, was wondering what seems to be the next play for our open and throwing in vanish. Because if we Mut>SnD>Mut>Garrote>Rupture>Vendetta>Sepsis>Shiv we are sitting at 2 combo points. Do we vanish and Mut>Env>Mut spam knowing that with the 2cps from Sepsis and Shiv, we could over cap or should we Mut once more after the shiv and vanish with 4?
we don't play master assassin with the 4pc (that's when NF gets good)
really
guess we stacking haste
see talent + soulbind + sample rotation there
where do i see the rotation?
open full html report, scroll down to action priority list, click sample sequence table
It’s a heater for sure
omg, that looks so slow - deeper and no haste
We’ll be getting haste from other sources + with the 4p you’ll be gaining so much haste in those windows
im going to convice my rl i need pi to do my rotation lol
You won’t tho
he dont know that
thing seems off to me. around Q when your Sepsis expires it has you ambush which puts you at 2cps then you vanish, reapply empowered garrote, then envenom again which would only have you at 3 of 6 cps. I'm assuming its trying to get you to envenom 3 times within the shiv window, but that seems to be short changing it cause the very next action is to ambush again within the sub window
Take a picture because I'm not buying it
The apl should never finish at less than max-1 cp with anything other than Slice and Dice
As you can see from that picture, you're at 6/6 CP when you Envenom
Is what I think he sees.
Unsure why it’s saying ambush is giving 4cp tho
You start at 1cp, you Ambush for 4, for a total of 5
Slam a garrote to max it out
And Envenom
It's because of toxic onslaught
Because of TO and Shadowblades
Giving shadow blades
I didn’t realize ambush could give 4 ahhhhh that’s what it is
I didn’t even look at legendaries just went to check it myself 
:')
i was like. you can't have 5-6. it says envenom (0) ambush (2) vanish(2) garrote(3) envenom
Remember to always look at the resource tab
And was like, oh that’s it.
Yeah SB great for throwing normal flow off, will have to adjust.
But the bot is smarter than us all 
ahhh. yeah i saw that and was like, how is he getting to 5 from ambush. that don't make no sense
sup quake, cev
Is this correct? Do I actually get 1242 Vers? 😱
Very long cd tbf so could be correct
Think quantum gives a fair whack and thats a 3 min cd albeit it is random
yeah but you can use that trinket during bloodlust and pump big time, while quantum gives healer mana

if thats the correct value then the other trinket with a really tiny amount of secondary stats + 10% sharing to your covenant seems even further off
iqd gives stat on lust
hard coded stats on lust? didnt know that
anyway, i actually like 1200 stats every 5 minutes, has its uses
(mists first boss, lets go)
Anyone here spend much time on ptr as NF? how did the class legendary feel, impactful or forgetful haha
It's fine, feels nice but it's only ten seconds so it's nothing special
If you make a /cleartarget macro for IQD you can force the stats proc as long as healers don’t yoink it for mana 
it's prob best to do
/target [@player]
/use 13 or 14
/targetlasttarget or sommething
so you don't have to reclick whatever you're clicking
You have to focus target , target player, use, target focus
why would you need to target focus
so you get the full swap from target to self to target

#showtooltip 13
/focus target
/cleartarget
/use [@player,nodead,noharm]13
/target focus
/clearfocus
This is why people hate iqd lol
Is targeting yourself even fully reliable for iqd
yeah
Yes
I don't get how focus target clear target is different from target [@player] -> targetlasttarget
I’ve heard it can be fucky
can you explain ice?
otherwise you get execute
sometimes @player can execute still unless it's a bug and has been fixed idk
Less fucky when it comes to re-targeting idk
I just /target Oxii then /use 13
Y’all be hackermanning these macros
Yeah I thought that’s all you needed

It’s so good
You're so good
just need to target self then target last target
I hope they nerf iqd too so I don’t have to use that garbage trinket
nothing fancy needed.

also prio is taunt/heal/mana/stat out of lust and just swap mana and stat in lust so watch hp bars still 🙂assuming u use execute macro
and make sure that ur stat rating are where u want them esp with procs. lust guaranteed highest. out of lust 50/50 on top 2. unless u have EXACT same stats top then it just skips over those 2 and goes to the 3rd. in lust atleast. itll still 50/50 outside. so just change a gem if needed. just some helpful tips from a dk main
is there a way to get mutilate and ambush bound to 1 button? obv works with stealth but not with blindside
not really
. /cast [stance:0] Spell Name; [stance:1] Another Spell; [stance:2] Another Spell
im pretty sure this would be the format
just need to differentiate stealth from normal stance
That won’t work if using blindside either
prob not
idk if its doable but maybe a macro that always tries to press ambush (but obv cant unlesss stealth or proc) and otherwise just casts mutilate
just get 2 binds
yeah I mean we are doing the same thing you can
Can’t do that
which is google how to make macros :)
you don't have that many buttons as sin anyway
I have hella buttons bro
nah but convenience
play bm hunter then
we're not playing blindside in any scenario
You can just use the stealth bar and put ambush on the same bind
As mut
That’s about it
idk how that would be convenient for anything other than the occasional sepsis proc
you need to press ambush during subt and after sepsis so get a new bind for it
I actually need an extra bar but ig this isnt actually that many @bleak sky
mounts and poisons bound
that's the issue
poison is 1 button :p
is that lockpick
no
s1, s2
sap cheap
oh
yeah thats what i currently have but blindside procs dont change to stealth bar
oh whsitle and mailbox lol
wtf
I use em a lot
that's why you don't have binds 
I literally do not press 1&2 in a raid encounter
get
2
binds
so its not worth having the binds there
the macro you want doesn't exist
yeah dude you dont have to rub it in i got the message
Macroing Ambush to Mutilate only works with the use of a addon.
It comes with the downside that it often requires multiple key presss.
Suggested addon to use(Gnome Sequencer):http://tiny.cc/mxb6tz
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Deadly Poison doesn't apply on some casts like Garrote, Rupture, and Shiv.
It's a minor bug but "notable" in that it does have some noticeable impact on DPS.
Should be around a 100-200 dps loss
Actually idk wtf the full list is either
!abb
Rogue abbreviations: http://www.ravenholdt.net/rogue-abbreviations/

Using gnome sequencer is very is very fucky, just fair warning @languid glacier
!minalbaisaloser
just gonna bind ambush with a shift modifier
!spec
All specs are good. Specific ones shine in specific areas.
Check the following resources for the facts:
Warcraft Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/26/#class=Rogue
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-character-rankings/season-sl-1/world/rogue/all

MechaMoroes <Discord Steward>
yes
Rogue Defensives usability: http://tiny.cc/q602uz
i'm boycotting book of shadows
the great suggestion of evading the big skelly boi's cyclone ability in top hasn't been added
Ah fuck I gotta put in the abilities for upper tazavesh 
Is that mob even on the list?
😂
When I did top literally no one ever went that way because it fucked pride timings
Dw I’ll add it for you bb

Skipping captain pack probably
ya but you can skip with the 2 mages side as well
Or bridge pack in gorechop wing
I’ll skip you
ill @ skip


sup gamers
waddup vita
can we upgrade leggo rank w/flux this week or nah
ok thx homie
I wonder what trinkets we're running with this tier. Should be fun to see how it all shakes out once the sims are updated
I just hope it's 1 passive + 1 active or 2 passives
Wait...
I'm good with 1 active, just not 2
Yeah - I'd prefer to just rock 2 passives. But if I need to, I need to
A passive trinket that has effect automatically cast Shiv on cooldown would be sick. Like a trinket so passive you can unbind a key.
Wat
I dont need any less buttons on sin

outlaw maybe
sin needs more buttons
No god... the less buttons the better.
Same, but I just hated double on-use because it reminds me of EP, fuck Font & Coral.
im already ready to nap while pooling
If there was a version of wow like vampire survivor I would play that.
sylvanas felt like a bullet hell at first
not so much anymore but intial feeling before you figure out timing on shit
All those countless hours in Galaga & TouHou really paid off!
I can't really say I need more or less buttons to press. A spec isn't fun because it uses X buttons.
Im playing deadeye in lost ark, I have 16 buttons there 
Sub is really that few of buttons these days?
droptimizer currently says my biggest trinket upgrades are both trinkets from Vault of the Wardens
which makes me horribly depressed
are those dungeons out?
in 2-3 weeks
Is there any way to make the "all in one covenant macro"' work with spell ids? cuz using the full names and making serrated bone spikes on mouseover makes the macro too long
Check wow-general pins
do you consistently play all 4 covenants
the macro is fine
your macro name is probably too long
"It has to be less than 10 characters in order to obey the character limit"
that isnt what he is saying
it is
if you take all 4 cov abilities but change the targeting to mouseover it makes it over 255 characters
because the macro works just fine, it fits in the 255 characters limit
I mean I might, I removed Night Fae before, but considering NF might be worth it for assa this tier I kinda want it
#showtooltip
/cast Echoing Reprimand
/cast Flagellation
/cast Sepsis
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead][] Serrated Bone Spike
/run local G=GetSpellInfo SetMacroSpell("cov macr", G"Echoing Reprimand" or G"Flagellation" or G"Serrated Bone Spike" or G"Sepsis")
that's the macro
sooo .. after full assa season is now the way to go SUB spec?
where "cov macr" is my macro name
if their cov macro name is longer than that it's not gonna fit the 255 char limit
mines "GetRunningMacro" but it's not the macro name
get running macro is for door of shadows and stuff
nomegalul im not playing sub
sup minal
it's the one originally posted for the other ones aswell
@woven prairie u suck bby <3
nm vita, juggling interview prep, wow and life
#showtooltip
/cast 323547
/cast 323654
/cast [@mouseover,exists,harm][] 328547
/cast 328305
/run local G=GetSpellInfo SetMacroSpell(GetRunningMacro(), G"323547" or G"323654" or G"328547"or G"328305")
and is that not working?
Which ones other than faulty??
are domination shards worthless now? can i change gear for higher ilvl without domination gems?
nope that's not working
no
Yeah
so you take the one from the pins
Shards are still useable in Torghast
You can still use dom shards for jailer gauntlet tho
and use that with a macro name shorter than 10 chars
Yeah keep the gear and shards
But replace it for pve or pvp content
The maw korthia and Torghast
The shards should still work in M+ this week. They deactivate with the start of S3
sure i will keep it but in new zone i can swap it right?
Correct
does simming reflect this?
I imagine raidbots will shut off shards for dungeon slice and keep a checkbox to activate them otherwise
Theyre still useable in SoD if you and your guild say come back to mount farm, will it be worth it? No idea
so raidbot showed me to unequip every domination shard gear and swap it to higher ilvl version without gems
last thing, Dashing is now useless? Should i destroy it for curenncy?
probably, yeah, we're using obedience until 4pc
thanks 🙂
No i am Venth. I will follow pinned guide 🙂
So Venth now and later swap to Fae
for raiding
how far behind is sin in +?
There’s no way of knowing this
3 dps
Im talking about currently
All we know right now would be dungeon slice sims which aren’t actually going to show you dungeon dps
Ahh well sin is viable
But not “meta”
What do you thing about Zoldyck? Purelly for raiding.
Definitely no
Yes
Fine 🙂 So sticking with Unity and Dask later in patch
Yeah
which one have bigger priority?
Well we can't get Unity for a bit longer
aah, i see
yeah was hoping for a numbers response but ill prob just stick to learning sub
I didnt play this rogue this tier so no daggers
both in combination mean that sub will be stronger early, but sin will catch up with 4p
if we talk at general performance
profiles are at around 16.8k for sub and 16.3k on sin top
does the 2pc really affects sins aoe that much?
I like necro but nfae has been hella fun on ptr
that and the 4pc was my decision maker on rogue this tier
you can check the sims, they're pinned on both channels
but it's behind and sub is just better at m+
if you're doing low-mid keys it won't matter though
Hard to quantify numbers for dungeons friend, too many variables
the sims are out though, sin at ~16k and sub at over 20k for dslice
That doesn’t really help anything
D slice is a tool we use to pick gear
Doesn’t necessarily quantify actual dungeon damage
So
so sin is still behind because sub can actually funnel damage
and that's important

trust sim
Not simbait but feels shit
just play sub 
I'd rather play Feral
Is this due to the phial nerf?
Question about Obedience: Should I use vanish on cd or wait until it lines up with a vendetta?
yes
vanish should always line up with vendetta on 2 mins
I meant duskwalker
I would just line it up with every other
which is essentially on cd, ya feel?
is it worth taking the cosmic flux from vault this week?
if you have nothing else to take, yes
Buff 2 piece back to 100%. Let sin regain its rightful crown.
lol
Sin is going to be the new funnel damage spec actually
I’ve already talked to the MDI doers 🙃
1 min vendetta funnel 
1 minute Vendettas about to rock everyone’s world


I miss frost gems already
NF is best cov now for prog?
After double Lego and 4 Pc
all the way until then it's still venthyr?
Ye
oh, neato
Last night I went to solo Consumption in Korthia like I've been doing every night for months and couldn't fucking beat it
hm
well i still have to level NF renown, idk how side covenant leveling works xd, skipped 9.1 entirely
Frost set has been carrying me all this time.
It’s been carrying us all
I’ll miss them 115k crits

























