#assassination

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inner atlas
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Would it be fair to say that assa suffers less from downtime than sub due to dots?

gusty tangle
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I think its pretty fair to say that assa suffers the least from downtime of any of the three speccs yes

limber lion
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Not necessarily true

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Assa still has to reapply bleeds when they run out

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Which is the lowest part of our damage throughput

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Sub can go ham instantly

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We're energy starved whenever we have to apply fresh bleeds on a target without Vendetta

gusty tangle
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Sure but then you'd have to account for what the missed CDR did to subs CDs and if they even can go ham instantly or not

warm drift
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Isn't sub uptime depending with tier set?

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More then before

limber lion
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Sure but then you'd have to account for what Assa loses from playing Duskwalkers on every boss and not having access to energy and a way to expend it.

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See

warm drift
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Also true

limber lion
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It's not really that black and white.

inner atlas
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Yeah Duskwalker's asks for a high uptime that's for sure

gusty tangle
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I think in terms of "the least" it's a pretty fair statement. But yes of course its not black and white. Nothing is.

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Also depends on how much downtime we are talking about of course. Minimal downtime meaning 4-6s of running out every time or are we talking Sylvanas intermission downtimes etc.

limber lion
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I'd also like to note that currently Assa's bleeds/poisons are really bad

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Envenom is our highest damage, not garrote/rupture.

inner atlas
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I was thinking 4-6 yes

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It's rare to have longer downtime windows

limber lion
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That will change in 9.2 because of the tier set, but if yoy have downtime, you probably don't slam a shiv/vend on the target then

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But yeh

inner atlas
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Is it possible to sim ST with random 5sec downtime windows?

formal zenith
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Its pretty normal for sub to sim higher than assa but you know what you dont see? sub rogues doing progression

cloud reef
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Cev under what conditions do you hold shiv for sepsis, if any

solid mica
balmy condor
placid dawn
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I saw a sub rogue on world first guardian kill and many sub rogues on that one boss in Uldir :v

inner atlas
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Thx Whispyr, I'll definitely have a look. Retail sims seem really polished

vale marten
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so is phial still bis after the nerf? or can we finally start getting douvle raid trinkets

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double

balmy condor
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simulationcraft doesn't support it officially

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is there like a branch or something?

kindred crescent
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I find when I play my cam keeps clipping unto the terrain and wall especially in tight places, anything I can do to stop that?

vestal wren
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It might make sense to have sims in classic wotlk or maybe even bc

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vanilla simulations don't rly make a lot of sense given how simple the game was back then

craggy nimbus
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How long did it take to get the covenant legendary thingie? I only have doomblade and Zoldycks crafted on my rogue and I might main it in 9.2

bleak sky
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48 renown = covenant leggo

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But if you mean unity, that's chapter 5 of campaign I think

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New campaign

burnt latch
craggy nimbus
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Ah yea, meant the Unity. I read that Venthyr and Obidience is the better raidcovenant and legendary before the 4 set bonus so that's why I'm asking as I haven't crafted it yet :>

burnt latch
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Theyre actually quite handy tbh, they have easy toggles for buffs and u can even add downtime etc

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Theyre way better than ud imagine for a classic simulation spreadsheet haha

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Atleast thats how it was in classic, havent played since naxx release so not sure how they’ve evolved / devolved going into tbc

mint gyro
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🚨 SPEND YOUR VALOR IF YOU HAVENT ALREADY 🚨

inner atlas
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For example Sixx the hunter discord founder is building his sim for hunters. And there seems to be a multi-class raid-wide simulation project

inner atlas
craggy nimbus
indigo totem
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Cheers to everyone who finally got their EoN drop before reset, and to those who get it after in their vault.

clear finch
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Cheers to everyone who never got their EoN drop or watched it go to someone's alt right in front of your face.

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I'm not at all salty.

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Not even one bit.

brazen lodge
fathom flax
timid cloud
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Hoping to get one out of my vault on my alt, & one from raid tonight.

fathom flax
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with the belt breacers cloak boots into the catalyst

timid cloud
smoky junco
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Hi guys. New ninja assassin here😁

empty hinge
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does any1 know what ilvl conduits are droping next reset

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in m+

spice spire
spice spire
umbral rapids
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Don’t sweat it, nothing to do really this week besides campaign and shit

spice spire
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In 9.2 max ilvl conduit will be 278.
On this week, it’s preseason, nothing happens.
Enjoy campaign + dailies and a chill week before you rush through content

timid cloud
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The only thing different will be that our gems aren’t working in M+

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They should be turned off for 9.2 in all content minus Torghast, The Maw, Korthia, & Sanctum of Domination.

umbral rapids
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Well loot wise it’s all the same

timid cloud
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Yeah, it should be.

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Then next week the madness begins.

umbral rapids
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Degen key spamming begins

timid cloud
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I was already doing 50 keys, never stopped...

spice spire
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You okay?

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Even I started doing just 10

timid cloud
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No.

spice spire
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Per character monkascheme

timid cloud
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Blinking Twice....

spice spire
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Gaslit into NF and keys smh

timid cloud
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Cease.

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I will never be gaslit into NF ever again.

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It is copium.

bleak sky
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watch the fairies rise to the top

spice spire
timid cloud
spice spire
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I’m having second thoughts on the fairies.
I’m debating continuing the meme monkascheme

timid cloud
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Me in bed realizing I won’t be playing NF.

spice spire
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For the possibility of losing my raid spot as a rogue because I’m playing a bottom tier covenant monkascheme

spice spire
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What’s 600 damage at maximum stuff monkascheme

timid cloud
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LOL

bleak sky
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if fairies suck to play I'll just go kyr sub smileW

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or || breadblades ||

spice spire
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We have 3 rogues and the deal was no favorites, worst rogue had to alt swap kekl

timid cloud
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At least you’re not Outlaw.

spice spire
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Breadblades lowkey sounds fun

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Thanks to the @tight ginkgo dark tech discovery monkascheme

timid cloud
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I never thought I’d see the day.

spice spire
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I’m an OTP dw, we ain’t swapping sides

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I do love seeing some off the wall shit change numbers and make it look better

tight ginkgo
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haha i just ran a ptr sim with dust which turns out works better with db than celerity :)

timid cloud
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LOL

tight ginkgo
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... and then it turns out dust will work better than celerity with kyrian too :V

timid cloud
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That's so weird.

tight ginkgo
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It just creates a good CDR feedback loop

spice spire
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That’s what no sleep does to a man

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It brings madness strong enough to optimize outlaw

timid cloud
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Should play Feral, they need this kinda help.

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Also, I love looking at the Sims just because of the notes that are put in.

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It's basically just "Please stop asking about the sims, all the trinkets are not working either..."

spice spire
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Real tho

runic terrace
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Is there a dps gain sheet for 2 and 4pc tierset?

timid cloud
spice spire
timid cloud
spice spire
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It’s not complete at this time due to raid trinkets not implemented, but outside of that, it’s a good indication of where we are

viscid spear
stark hound
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Wait isn't today, tomorrow(EU) m+ item level capped at 255 for completing 10/11?

spice spire
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No, that’s the following week

iron orchid
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wth, i stop playing the game for a couple months and Quake turns green ?!

bleak sky
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yea he's green to fit his necrolord aesthetic

iron orchid
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I may be back for 9.2, just need to find a guild to prog hard with

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So much new stuff to learn tho

snow torrent
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Which souldbind would be the go-to for NF? Dreamweaver?

spice spire
spice spire
snow torrent
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Aah cool, thanks :)

iron orchid
spice spire
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Thank you sir happybear

violet jackal
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Oh congrats quake

frigid kestrel
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Welp, I did it guys. After 15+ years of playing World Of Warcraft on my rogue I am now Horde for the very first time. I know it’s minimal, minuscule, and almost completely irrelevant, but what race is typically the go to for Sin Rogue

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Blood Elf?

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Also been a while, so like sup homies

spice spire
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Bloodelf is good and so is orc

inner atlas
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For pvp it's orc that's for sure

spice spire
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Also ty mr ninjapandax- Arthas happybear

spice spire
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BE provides a passive 1% crit and has a mass purge for some m+ utility, orc does more dam, ever so slightly but all the same

frigid kestrel
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Tf last time I was active @gusty mirage and @spice spire were normies

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Grats you two

spice spire
spice spire
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Also ty null happybear

frigid kestrel
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Ye ye

gusty mirage
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But yeah unless you’re pvping, doesn’t matter too much. Orc racial is just too op in pvp

frigid kestrel
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New tier, so I guess I’ll live here again for a while

spice spire
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Tbf I’ve been green for a grand total of like 52 hours?

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Oxi’s been green a little bit longer 😛
Welcome back happybear

iron orchid
spice spire
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Not at all

frigid kestrel
gusty mirage
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😂 Cev is an animal on the keyboard. I thought I typed fast but that guy’s on another level

spice spire
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Cev and oxi have kept the channel locked down for a bit.
Whíspyr answers the big brain questions, but is also doing a lot these days monkaGIGA

iron orchid
gusty mirage
frigid kestrel
gusty mirage
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Well happy 9.2 everyone, to quote gta “ah shit, here we go again”

spice spire
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Next week is where we get the gif tho

bleak sky
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next week is degen week

spice spire
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Yessir

frigid kestrel
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Did Fuu ever get a update on where trinkets stand after the nerfs? I thought I read somewhere he was working/looking into that

bleak sky
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40 keys a day

spice spire
bleak sky
frigid kestrel
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Could have been someone other then Fuu (which is why I didn’t tag him)

frigid kestrel
bleak sky
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1 key -> code a bit -> 1 key -> code a bit

gusty mirage
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Today’s going to be the day I get a 252 phial and I’m going to scream

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I feel it in my giblets

woeful wigeon
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we gotta wait EU here i am hyped watching streams to see the content angel in me say DONT but the hORDE IN ME SAY YES DO IT

bleak sky
frigid kestrel
gusty mirage
frigid kestrel
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Ez

spice spire
gusty mirage
woeful wigeon
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THINK THEY DID

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caps

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think there was on the sheer

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sheet

spice spire
gusty mirage
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Wow

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Okay

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You’ve seen some of the dps I’ve played with, I can’t be that greedy

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Also I got some secret tech for sanguine 👀

bleak sky
spice spire
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No you cannot kekl

bleak sky
spice spire
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Is the shtick

bleak sky
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sub enjoyer

spice spire
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Memes aside

woeful wigeon
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@frigid kestrel check PM

spice spire
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Running keys I get it more and more monkascheme

iron orchid
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My last key was 3 months ago bruh

spice spire
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I will not break tho

iron orchid
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the ranking is still fine, everyone plays sub happybear

bleak sky
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run sin up until I can't anymore

spice spire
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Can almost guarantee still higher io than I, mister deïræ - hyjal(EU IIRC)

bleak sky
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then go dark side

frigid kestrel
iron orchid
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god i timed a 23, i must have been good at that time

spice spire
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6 more than me PepeHands

iron orchid
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now i'm all rusty and dusty

spice spire
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6 io that is

iron orchid
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I'm sorry bro

spice spire
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I took a very extended hiatus

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But you’re just built diff

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Getting ksm as sin in 9.0 when it was a dogwater spec like week 2-3

tight ginkgo
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i hate to admit i started finding sub in keys very cozy Cring

spice spire
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It’s okay muse

frigid kestrel
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Getting IO should be fun this season, them Horde queues hit a lot different then the Ally ones.

spice spire
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It’s that or outlaw with you, there’s no winning either way bearJAM

iron orchid
woeful wigeon
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shud be awsome if blizz wud release the next expantion world wide same moment instead of letting peeps getting wet while NA is playing we getting horny about ti

iron orchid
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i did some keys on mdi servers as sub, turned out to be fun, then i almost never played it on live

tight ginkgo
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i did fall short of my season goals, not only of title but for 22s across all roguespecs sadge

spice spire
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Nothing really happening live this week at least. Plus maintenance is a long time

pearl ingot
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My mates also force me to play sub for next season :/

woeful wigeon
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just go SIN say its the new sub XD

pearl ingot
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2,8 was okay to reach as assa, but we had endless discussions why I even play that spec

viscid spear
spice spire
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We’ve mentioned it a lot here, I meme about sin in keys; however, if you’re stuck on priority damage duty, as most rogues are, you’re doing less damage for a lot more work

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So it makes sense to roll sub as you go higher and higher

tight ginkgo
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i just got burnt out and my push group fizzled

spice spire
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I remember monkaGIGA

spice spire
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I’m still proud all the same you made a massive jump this season in both raid and m+

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Couldn’t be more proud of you mister muse happybear

tight ginkgo
slow marsh
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Quake wholesome cf feelsloveman

spice spire
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Also you’re 31st sin rogue on the server, muse kekl

tight ginkgo
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thanks quake <3

spice spire
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Muse is a certified homie. I raider with him in Mythic CN with his guild at the time. And we had many discussions on what to do for prog

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He pushed me to be better at a time when I didn’t care how well I did and still does whispyrheart

timid cloud
tight ginkgo
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And you taught me how to play sin when 9.0.5 hit happy_holiday_pepe

timid cloud
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Muse, the Breadblade savior.

spice spire
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And you played it better than me, worse gear but still Sinscheme

gusty mirage
spice spire
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Literally you

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But outside of that, muse has the most majestic beard in this discord, hands down

bleak sky
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being able to cheap multiple stuff on demand is kinda good

tight ginkgo
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Yeah legit, desyncing the Throw Books or whatever the nerds do in SD via cheap shots is so valuable

sturdy merlin
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Any sin M+ enjoyers here ? 😛

gusty mirage
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Tbh not playing sub after a certain level wasn’t throwing or inting, but it was just making life harder for yourself than it needed to be

bleak sky
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but idk for how long

spice spire
pearl ingot
sturdy merlin
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I feel like M+ is a topic we don't read often here, i'd love to see more but sub is the move these days 😦

spice spire
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You haven’t seen it mr. notrickz

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It’s glorious

bleak sky
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sin is perfectly fine until then

hollow river
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I take this as a personal JAB at mine

spice spire
hollow river
pearl ingot
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At least we have some r1 titles for a handful assa rogues

hollow river
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No one has seen mine though happy_holiday_pepe

serene shell
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how much reduction you guys average with duskwalkers?

lusty surge
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i got fed up with sin around 2.2k

tight ginkgo
lusty surge
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going to 2.2k on sin was harder than 2.6k on sub lol

lusty surge
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just so much more work to play sin

sturdy merlin
lusty surge
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which is sad

gusty mirage
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Yeah if fan of knives didn’t suck balls

lusty surge
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for real

gusty mirage
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It’d be closer

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But here we are PES_Cry

lusty surge
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you know the pain

bleak sky
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jusst give us shuriken storm

sturdy merlin
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At least we have decent crit now

spice spire
bleak sky
hollow river
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If Fan gave CP like storm I bet we’d be competitive as fk

gusty mirage
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Nice game

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Fun

sturdy merlin
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rip

spice spire
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Yessir

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Goat status

bleak sky
sturdy merlin
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real pain was at 9.0 with no crit

hollow river
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What’s the point in fan screwing us over

gusty mirage
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“30 stacks of flag is easy in aoe”

hollow river
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It’s kinda pointless seeming

gusty mirage
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BRO FOR WHO

hollow river
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LOL

gusty mirage
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How tf y’all generating 5cp with one fok

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Share your secrets

bleak sky
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I just crit good

sturdy merlin
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just crit

bleak sky
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skilled player

gusty mirage
spice spire
bleak sky
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higher io = higher chance to get 5cp foks

tight ginkgo
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I actually lose combo points when I fok

gusty mirage
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@spice spire I played necro for PF last night

pearl ingot
spice spire
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It’s fun shit

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I like Necro a bit in that dungeon

gusty mirage
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Bro after not touching bonespike in m+ for like forever

lusty surge
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my favorite part of sin in dungeons is having no energy and just auto attacking

sturdy merlin
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Get crit tea -> 5cp everytime 🧠

lusty surge
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lets you look around at the scenery

gusty mirage
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Your brain short circuits

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And you’re just like

spice spire
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“I can press this button more than once?”

gusty mirage
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“I can get free cp?”

lusty surge
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guys hold dps while i put my dots up with ym free cp

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or i wont do anything on this pull

gusty mirage
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Yeah some pulls I don’t even bother throwing out more than one spike

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I just say “alright go next”

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I’m doing tank dam rn it’s fine

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Shits just melting

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And I’m just like thisisfine

lusty surge
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you can just feel the hunter and mage looking at you like who invited this sin rogue

bleak sky
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I want title next season MadgeRightNow

gusty mirage
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I might push as a tank

spice spire
gusty mirage
bleak sky
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same

spice spire
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Oh real shit?

lusty surge
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id love to go for it as well

bleak sky
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bdk gang rise up

lusty surge
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ended at 2650

spice spire
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VDH oxi?

lusty surge
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just couldnt get there

gusty mirage
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Nah I got my pally

bleak sky
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what if I push 2 characters Hmm

spice spire
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I knew you were bdk minalba 😛

gusty mirage
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Just gear it up ez

spice spire
gusty mirage
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My huge ilvl pally

bleak sky
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I'm not touching dh for keys that thing is dead

spice spire
gusty mirage
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Went from 214ilvl at the beginning at 9.1 to 222 by 9.2

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Nah I’m not healing

spice spire
gusty mirage
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I let people die

bleak sky
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wdym

spice spire
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You said you’re tanking?

bleak sky
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prot pally is just a healer

gusty mirage
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Not good for pushing content

spice spire
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You’re literally a healer

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That also does like

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A shit ton of damage

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And tanks

gusty mirage
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Nah fuck you my holy power is for damage

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Just like when I healed kekg

spice spire
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Real

bleak sky
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check fuckton of damage
check unkillable
check massive amounts of cc
check giga utility
check insane offheal

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what the fuck can't this spec do

spice spire
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Run fast

gusty mirage
spice spire
sturdy merlin
bleak sky
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2 horsies charges

gusty mirage
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In a 45s cd with the conduit pretty sure

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Huge mobility

bleak sky
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oh fuck

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didn't know it was THAT bad

spice spire
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Bro may as well call that boy sanic

gusty mirage
spice spire
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Gotta wait at least a minute for that evasion CD

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But yes

lusty surge
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anyone else excited to play fae

timid cloud
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Stop.

spice spire
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Kind of

sturdy merlin
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🖐🏻

bleak sky
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maybe

lusty surge
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i played it for like 2 months before giving in to sub master race

timid cloud
bleak sky
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I still don't know how it plays

lusty surge
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and its so fun having soul shape

spice spire
bleak sky
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and I'm more excited for the couple of weeks we get to play as necro

sturdy merlin
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I'll miss the big MA windows during bursts tho

timid cloud
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I heard someone say “Are you excited to play Fae” & that’s how I get summoned.

lusty surge
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hahah

sturdy merlin
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and the feeling of flag hitting like a truck

lusty surge
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im personally stoked to play it

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literally legion sin with kingsbane

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:p

timid cloud
lusty surge
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never!

timid cloud
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I gotta practice it on the dummy.

spice spire
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I’ve been waiting a whole patch for this one Sinscheme

timid cloud
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The NF rotation, seems weird.

lusty surge
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also i might be just sour grapes'ing into sin cuz i only have a normal sylv dagger

spice spire
timid cloud
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Sheesh.

lusty surge
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super sadness

timid cloud
bleak sky
timid cloud
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Also saves you the trouble of weapon swapping.

lusty surge
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looking at preliminary sims it looks like kyrian sub with mythic eon is like 700dps ahead of nf sin

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correct me if im wrong there

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but thats close enough and i only have a normal dagger

gusty mirage
lusty surge
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might just play sin

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and sub for m+

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oh i should probably go look at the new rotation

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im assuming theres some shiv lining up or something

woeful wigeon
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sims stays sims with 100% uptime on all adds bosses ect ect

timid cloud
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I’m with Cev who said it’s copium to think you’re gonna get a full value of the haste circle.

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I want NF to sim well, but NL to be the better option in practice.

gusty mirage
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That was seli

lusty surge
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i found it a little finicky to play with in 9.1 but not terrible to get decent uptime

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certainly not full tho

timid cloud
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Oh. I forgot.

gusty mirage
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You don’t need 100% uptime on blossoms for night fae to be better though

timid cloud
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We’re all bonespike enjoyers here.

bleak sky
timid cloud
sturdy merlin
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Theotar parasol was fine so should be the haste circle

gusty mirage
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It’s hard copium to assume that blossoms is why fae is simming better lmao

sturdy merlin
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exception made for sylv ok

pseudo hamlet
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Vampires > Skeletons

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Any day and night

timid cloud
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Lol I’m just sad it’s not Niya.

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You know...

bleak sky
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niya fucking sucks though

clever kindle
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burrs are boring

sturdy merlin
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sin Niya 9.0 prayge

timid cloud
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For the Mastery, Master Poisoner build...

gusty mirage
spice spire
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Korayn’s pretty sick in aoe

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Ngl

lusty surge
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yea but nf mission table am i right fellas

bleak sky
clever kindle
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first strike juicin

lusty surge
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thats the real reason you go for a covenant

bleak sky
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korayn is juicy indeed

gusty mirage
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It’s okay yeah @spice spire

timid cloud
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Hey, maybe with First Strike, we’ll finally see more than 1 fucking CP per FOK.

gusty mirage
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First strike kinda nice

spice spire
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Yeah outside of m+ Korayn

timid cloud
spice spire
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Binds suck

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Arms with fields

clever kindle
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my FOK gives me 4 combo points every time in a pack of 10 mobs COPIUM

gusty mirage
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That’s why no one really played fae in 9.1, because the souldbinds are ass

nocturne geode
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wait did i miss something the wow head guide posted say best raid covs are venth and necro ive been on vacation so did something change lol?

lusty surge
#

they just need CT to return energy

clever kindle
#

for single leggo

nocturne geode
#

wouldnt it be wrong then

gusty mirage
#

Necro and venthyr are the early prog choices

spice spire
gusty mirage
#

Then when we get 4pc fae gets better, then when we get double leggo necro gets +2 dps while everyone else gets real amounts of damage

spice spire
#

No longer a joke to this discord

#

For two weeks

clever kindle
#

started on my fae renown last night

gusty mirage
#

Even resounding clarity is better than deathspike

clever kindle
#

I got to play necro in early SoD but ultimately I needed to change my damage texture

alpine latch
#

Don't remind me 😦

timid cloud
#

I actually kinda like ER.

gusty mirage
#

I do too, actually

spice spire
gusty mirage
#

I think ER is a cool ability

alpine latch
#

Damn, you said I was cool, now we're friends. I'm on a come up!

gusty mirage
#

Shame it sucks for sin

timid cloud
#

Yeah.

#

More of a Sub / Outlaw thing.

#

Feels way more fluid on Outlaw though.

nocturne geode
#

what if hitting an anima charge beefed up envenom

alpine latch
#

My buddy (who I played Rogue with back in Vanilla) keeps asking me questions but refuses to join the Discord. I might stab him

gusty mirage
#

Also kleia would be huge for sin in m+

timid cloud
#

Could have 100% crit & still get 1 point FOK. C’mon.

gusty mirage
nocturne geode
#

🙂

alpine latch
#

We're probably going Necro in keys once we get double leggo from what I remember. Isn't that still the case?

timid cloud
sturdy merlin
#

Is deathspike still bugged ?

alpine latch
#

That's what it was last I saw it updated. I don't know if they've put time into it in the last week or two though

bleak sky
#

deathspike fixed

timid cloud
#

Once NL legendary got gutted I actually pushed it out of my mind.

gusty mirage
#

Whoops wrong reply

timid cloud
#

I don’t even recall what it does LOL

gusty mirage
#

But yeah Palmer, necro will be better for overall damage in m+

bleak sky
#

I don't think we're moving out of venthyr for M+

alpine latch
#

And I assume we're just going to keep every trinket in S3 we get until the trinkets get sorted out? lol

gusty mirage
#

Venthyr might still see some play for prio dam

nocturne geode
#

all these nf deny-ers goiong nf now imma have to go to kyrian losing my identity

gusty mirage
#

But having obedience + dusk would be massive for prio dam

gusty mirage
timid cloud
#

I’ll be keeping all trinkets all tier, just in case. Hopefully we don’t have another Relic of the Frozen Wastes incident....

alpine latch
#

If I knew wtf I was doing, I'd help in simc with the trinkets. I'd probably do far more damage than good, though

gusty mirage
#

Now it only cleaves 1 spike

timid cloud
#

Ohhhhh

gusty mirage
#

And it took them 8 months to fix the cp generation and refunds on it

nocturne geode
#

did they fix it bc on live i still get extra cp from deathspike on crits

frosty bridge
#

Necro Sin with double leggo on pantheon sounds fun

#

juicy padding

clever kindle
#

is it padding if its boss damage

frosty bridge
#

Well I guess it wouldn't be paddin lel

timid cloud
#

I wonder if now that we won’t be fighting Sylv the bone zone won’t grief.

#

By pulling stuff we’re not in combat with anymore just with a hover.

clever kindle
#

would be potentially sick for keeping lots of bleeds up

timid cloud
#

Tbh. I loved playing NL on Sire.

clever kindle
#

low cost combo points gachiHYPER

frosty bridge
#

NL on sire was so fun

timid cloud
#

Shit was so fun in P2

clever kindle
#

trueeee

timid cloud
#

Actually huge.

frosty bridge
#

yep

#

Insanely fun

clever kindle
#

even on eye it was fun juicing with the adds

frosty bridge
#

SBS on Remornia, cabalists, sire

clever kindle
#

early sod

nocturne geode
#

i did sylv a few times after it was farm to laugh at deathspike damage from it ticking the whole fight

frosty bridge
#

pressing that crimson tempest and all of a sudden you jump to top of the meter

timid cloud
#

Did it for The Nine.

#

I got such a nice parse for it LOL

frosty bridge
#

You'd think NL is great on the nine but

timid cloud
#

It was only for prog.

frosty bridge
#

Ye, I could actually see it parsing better during prog than venthyr

#

Considering the first 2 bosses didn't die in 10 seconds

timid cloud
#

When P1 lasted longer than 30 seconds on Mythic.

#

😂

frosty bridge
#

To be fair prog lasted like 4 pulls xD

#

But 2-3 target situations for sin are among the most fun things in the game

timid cloud
#

True.

frosty bridge
#

That's why Sire P2 was so fun, remornia, sire, the mini bosses and cabalists

timid cloud
#

Sad I never got to do SLG on my Rogue...

frosty bridge
#

but it wasn't like massive aoe and they lasted just long enough

timid cloud
frosty bridge
#

I never got to play it as sin sadly

#

Outlaw KS+MA was hella fun tho

timid cloud
#

Even on reclear I had to play Hunter for SLG.

#

Got PI though so it wasn’t half bad.

sturdy merlin
#

SLG was fun on sin but dps stops ruined it

#

my RL never wanted to do a full dps run pepesad

frosty bridge
#

Can't blame em

#

Hunter on SLG was nasty

timid cloud
#

I DON’T WANT TO STOP DAMAGE, I WANT TO DEAL DAMAGE!

spice spire
timid cloud
#

NA would be opening boxes right now...if this maintenance wasn’t so cringe...

#

I’m very sad, lads...

frosty bridge
timid cloud
#

Yeah. LOL

sturdy merlin
#

🤣 🤣 🤣 Literally everyone on KT progress

timid cloud
#

I hate KT, because every time we pause, I lose a 70k shard into a small mob.

#

When I start building it up to shit on his soul.

#

Then I get the “So why didn’t we make it downstairs...”

sturdy merlin
#

It should never be your fault for not making it downstairs imo

bleak sky
#

realm list is up, game is gonna go live soon

sturdy merlin
#

Lucky NA Pepe

bleak sky
#

EU has 20 min maintenance tho

sturdy merlin
#

Sure, but reset is tomorrow

#

In the words of Pilav, I don't want to wait, I want to play

timid cloud
#

I need to play Rogue...

#

I’m about to just log into other games & play Rogue...

#

Dragon Age...Lost Ark, FF14...

glass tulip
#

The chats gone dark

#

Are servers up

spice spire
#

No

glass tulip
#

rip

#

looks like im sitting on realm list til its ready

#

literal 9.2 waiting room

timid cloud
glass tulip
#

make sure your handynotes is updated!

timid cloud
#

Gonna be updating add-ons every hour.

brave moth
#

What time tommorrow will we be able to play 9.2?

strange python
glass tulip
strange python
#

Ye

hollow river
brave moth
#

Oh thats awesome so I dont havee to wait till tommorrow it will be up roughly 1am?

strange python
#

Europe has different maintenance times.

spice spire
#

Because then yeah, tomorrow 😛

brave moth
#

Ye i was talking about eu

glass tulip
#

gotta stay logged in and ready to get on realm, know what im sayin mr notrick

strange python
#

There's not much content this week anyways

spice spire
#

Yeah I don’t understand the rush today

#

I’m gonna log in

#

Do some dailies

#

Log out

strange python
#

I'll do the campaign and check out the new zone a bit but same

#

Also will change dashing to obe.

brave moth
#

Im staying necro fml

glass tulip
#

the rush is that I am wow starved and I want to walk around new zone and go oh pretty

strange python
#

Gotta decide if I'm gonna do sin or sub for prog, I guess. Not like that requires much in game

glass tulip
#

and then feel content to log off

spice spire
#

Ahhh fomo style

glass tulip
#

im an axious person okay leave me alone 🤣

junior rampart
#

Feels good to get rid of shards.

glass tulip
#

yes definitely

#

time for alts

spice spire
#

Gonna miss the invincible feeling ngl

#

Outside of that

#

RIP in peace bozos

glass tulip
#

true, I loved eating mechanics with winds shield

junior rampart
#

Yes self heal is gone.

spice spire
#

Yessir

indigo ginkgo
#

so we dump the domination set peices for bigest ivel with socket from korthia ?

#

for starters

spice spire
#

Just biggest ilvl piece in general

indigo ginkgo
#

ok

glass tulip
#

well, you should be able to get rid of them quite quickly anyway so no need to minmax stats on other 252 gear

spice spire
#

I can finally be 251 with a replacement helm from m+ I got week 2 Sinscheme

#

It’s all coming together

junior rampart
#

I'm gonna replace my heroic shard gear with m+ gears 252 gears

indigo ginkgo
#

+++

glass tulip
#

then yeah thats the move

#

but if you already have mostly 252/259 stuff there isnt much to change until you get heroic raid stuff

#

or uncapped m+ gear

brave moth
#

So what time does 9.2 go live for eu?

indigo ginkgo
#

Tomorow

stark hound
hollow river
spice spire
#

YESSIR WE GETTING THE BREAD

hollow river
#

FUCK YEAH

brave moth
#

Whats the max itlvl gear we can get from m+. Without the upgrade vendor?

uneven hamlet
#

this week 255

spice spire
#

236 current

#

Next week is 255

violet hemlock
#

then after that 262

spice spire
#

And in total for 9.2 is 262

#

Yeah

elder jasper
#

so I've been reading on wowhead that if you're venthyr the legendary combo Obedience and Duskwalker's Patch. What slots should we have those in? Head and Ring respectively?

junior rampart
#

Max level m+ gear drop is 255 at 15+ key? Nice

brave moth
#

Is that from tommorrows launch or do we have to wait before we can start grinding mythics?

spice spire
#

After that week, it’s 262

violet hemlock
#

also max is from 10s

spice spire
junior rampart
#

Easy to gear up alts

spice spire
#

Yeah. Week one is capped at 10s gear. So people don’t Zerg crazy gear for mythic week 1.
They will anyway, but MonkeyBlobShrug

violet hemlock
#

its more to not have rwf be who ran 2000 dungeons during hc week

spice spire
#

Which they will anyway since they have a billion toons kekl

#

But that’s neither here nor there

brave moth
#

So 9.2 launches but all we'll be able to do is quests?

timid cloud
#

Did someone say bread?

junior rampart
#

Cheese 🧀

brazen zodiac
#

oh boy todays the day!

#

good morning everyone!!!

glass tulip
junior rampart
#

Time to get NF and Necro renowns

glass tulip
#

you dont want to slow down gaining that power spike at all

brazen zodiac
#

hiii mav

glass tulip
#

mornin

brave moth
#

Why necro? Im the only necro allowed

brazen zodiac
#

wwhats poppin

#

updatin my wow !

elder jasper
#

well it was more so a question for what slot to put obedience

glass tulip
glass tulip
junior rampart
#

Bored of venth gaming in m+ last 2 seasons. Want to explore Necro/Fae this season.

glass tulip
#

wrists is fine too

brave moth
#

My gm officer said im allowed to play necro

#

For raiding

brazen zodiac
#

nice tell him he's allowed to eat and shit that night then !

spice spire
#

Homie, you’re not even close to the only Necro kekl

brazen zodiac
#

sup wuakeroats

spice spire
#

I’d say I’m the OG, but I’m definitely not

#

Howdy vita happybear

elder jasper
#

so wait on obedience but craft duskwalker's on ring?

brave moth
#

That was a joke

spice spire
#

I know dako

spice spire
#

Obedience good now

junior rampart
#

It's so annoying when raid leader choose what someone should play.

south kestrel
#

Sorry whats the command to bring up the guide

brazen zodiac
#

yes yes it is

spice spire
#

!guide

brazen zodiac
#

!guide

south kestrel
#

Thankn you

brazen zodiac
#

wowzers

brave moth
#

Why is Vigor talent not in reccomended talents on methods guide?

gusty mirage
#

Guy becomes green and starts spamming, smh @spice spire

spice spire
#

?

echo geyser
#

heavybreathing green name fight

gusty mirage
#

Cuz it’s less damage than mfd if you’re venthyr

#

And method’s guides are raid centered so they go with the ideal setup which was venthyr for 9.1

spice spire
mortal pike
#

Has anything really changed at all for today?

brazen zodiac
#

quake a green man now?

brazen zodiac
#

all that weed finally got to him

#

smoked so much it turned him green!

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

I don’t do that monkaGIGA

gusty mirage
#

Just go enjoy the new zone when servers are up

spice spire
#

I’m a straight edge gamer

gusty mirage
#

Take this week to just chill out before raid release, try to get at least a 20 done so you have a 15 next week

#

And just enjoy no more korthia/sod

glass tulip
#

except still sod tonight lol

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

Certified self hating gamers

glass tulip
brazen zodiac
brave moth
#

Will SoD gems still work? In new area? Not the gem set bonus the gems itself..

brazen zodiac
#

ya enjoy the new zone that's korthia 2 XD

spice spire
#

Week 2 of sod break before new patch yejoice

gusty mirage
#

AFAIK even the individual shards are disabled in the new zone

#

But truthfully I’ve done like… 15m of testing on ptr kekl

spice spire
#

I’ve done slightly more and I mean slightly

#

But it was all early

gusty mirage
#

I’d get whispers “ptr keys?” Like bro I don’t even want to do live keys tf

glass tulip
#

pretty sure the shards are disabled across the board with the only exceptions being the relevant zones / instance

gusty mirage
#

Ye I think they’ll work in torghast/sod/the maw only?

brazen zodiac
#

yeah

glass tulip
#

sounds about right

gusty mirage
#

Even the individual ones

glass tulip
#

correct

brave moth
#

Thats a good think so u can focus on getting all ur uprades from m+ whenever they release the new m+ system.

brazen zodiac
#

yeah

gusty mirage
#

Yuppers

brazen zodiac
#

oxi u so cute smh

gusty mirage
#

I’m keeping my sylv chest tho 👀

#

259 with avoidance

glass tulip
gusty mirage
#

Like if you were any cuter we’d have to ban you for being so distracting

glass tulip
brazen zodiac
#

? bro we already gotta kill u for how hot u are stop

#

btw turn around oxi :)

gusty mirage
#

Why did I just turn around

spice spire
#

Wtf am I reading

brazen zodiac
#

the start of a guild

gusty mirage
brazen zodiac
#

watch out world first

#

i hope we all hold hands while running around the new zone!

gusty mirage
#

Lmao

glass tulip
#

rogue raid group? 👀

#

just fuckin smashing ZM

brazen zodiac
#

i used to run korthia with a group cuz it was super quicker

cerulean nest
#

are we gonna be able to use raidbots today?

#

idk how fast they are to have things updated

spice spire
#

Should? Nothing changes today

#

Future stuff, unsure if implemented tho

cerulean nest
#

I mean for 9.2

violet hemlock
#

ye theres no new gear yet so u should be fine

#

*that matters

cerulean nest
#

lol i dont care about using it now. let me rephrase: at what point will updated 9.2-relevant sims be available for public use?

spice spire
#

Right now, if you have the right stuff jotted down, but unsure if everything has been implemented monkaGIGA

#

Or you can just break it like I did rooDerp

cerulean nest
#

okay sick haha

brazen zodiac
#

Yeah break your computer

#

Quake has broken 8 now

spice spire
#

Nah, raidbots

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

It knew how based I was

timid cloud
#

Did you try...MP, Night Fae, IQD, mastery build?

gusty mirage
#

no

#

unfortunately your mastery dream is almost as dead as my social life

#

unlucky

timid cloud
#

With Niya...

#

We can...make it work...

gusty mirage
timid cloud
obtuse robin
#

patch drops 7 pm my time

gusty mirage
#

it'd be cool if master poisoner didn't suck

#

like honestly

timid cloud
#

Lol true.

#

Last time it was gassed was Legion...

gusty mirage
#

it'd be neat if our dots did more damage

obtuse robin
#

it only sucks in 2/3's of the content

#

thats ok right 😄

gusty mirage
timid cloud
fleet anchor
spice spire
gusty mirage
#

it only wins in pvp because you hold globals

#

if you finished as often as you do in pve, EP would be better

obtuse robin
#

great design by blizz if u ask me

fleet anchor
#

We still need to pull live data and hotfix data into SimC and that can't happen until the servers are up. We could only grab the spell data from the CDN but that won't capture any live hotfixes. And Blizzard has been doing a lot of those in previous patches.

obtuse robin
gusty mirage
#

esp now w/ hemotoxin you don't even play wound poison lmao

cerulean nest
fleet anchor
#

Also none of the 9.2 sims even matter for today since nothing we're doing changes this week at all

timid cloud
#

For NA servers will be up soon.

gusty mirage
#

the real fun will come w/ heroic week tuning probably

timid cloud
#

EU is tomorrow.

obtuse robin
#

nothing changes until 2 leggos right? barring nay tuning

fleet anchor
#

Well "soon".. it's currently 5 more hours 😦

timid cloud
#

Heroic & mythic week we’ll see tuning more than likely, yeah.

brazen zodiac
#

hey black

fleet anchor
#

Extended downtime today

obtuse robin
#

sup scrub

timid cloud
#

Yeah. Soon as in within the next 24 hours.

brazen zodiac
#

whats poppin u wanna play league ?

#

what else we gonna do XD

obtuse robin
#

i dont hate myself yet its early

brazen zodiac
#

xddd

obtuse robin
#

soon as the depression creeps in we play

brazen zodiac
#

i give that another 20 minutes

obtuse robin
#

prolly

outer cairn
#

been absent on the game for a bit since taking a break waiting for today. Trying to understand the 4pc/2leggo switch to NF. Guess the only synergy I'm seeing is Toxic Blade gives you more energy and cps with AR/SB to work with Dusk to get your Vendetta off CD much faster. I'm assuming on open you'd burn both as usual and then you'll have Vendetta up to use again in between Toxic Blade and Vanish CDs?

glass tulip
#

toxic blade thinkBaguette

shell aspen
#

Sepsis? think

spice spire
outer cairn
#

the NF Cov Leggo

glass tulip
outer cairn
#

yeah i got that from pins. just trying to understand the synergy

spice spire
#

Oh toxic onslaught is minor.
It’s just not a zdps legendary like NL.
Sepsis is the breadwinner here

brazen zodiac
obtuse robin
#

i just woke up tbh

outer cairn
#

yes Toxic Onslaught mb.

brazen zodiac
#

okie

obtuse robin
#

do ur thing

outer cairn
#

ok so toxic just gives us a little boost when we use sepsis, but I'm guessing that the 4pc with vendetta just makes sepsis do its damage faster and then?

deft vault
#

Its the 2pc that boost sepsis a shit ton

#

2pc + sepsis and shiv conduit makes sepsis a very strong cd

outer cairn
#

ahh. i'm seeing the general recommendation is just stay venth until you got your 4pc and both leggos, but it seems it might not be to bad to make the switch over to NF with 2pc and 1 leggo, albeit would have to craft doomblade

outer cairn
#

ok think i've got a better understanding after doing some reading. I'll be staying Venth until at least 2pc and 2 leggo. That way get the most out of sepsis until hit the 4 pc

#

if god wills it

cerulean nest
#

inshallah

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

Phial today, oxi?

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

Wish you’d punch me instead

gusty mirage
#

nah we log in as soon as servers are up, hope the vault bugs and gives us a tier set by accident

#

👀

spice spire
nocturne geode
timid cloud
#

Then it’ll get YOINKED

gusty mirage
hollow river
#

Too late

#

Scarizard is watching your character specifically

glass tulip
#

swear to god bro when that normal slot is a dagger and the mythic one is tarragrue neck im unsubbing

spice spire
glass tulip
#

today's vault better not troll me pepehands

gusty mirage
#

you know it'll be the the tarragrue neck

#

or the fatescribe ring

glass tulip
#

its already been for 4 weeks man

spice spire
#

Don’t terrorize yourself

glass tulip
#

I cant take another

#

I use fatescribe ring in sub pvp yep

gusty mirage
#

same

#

our warrior's gotten the fatescribe ring 11 weeks in a row

glass tulip
#

that's highly impressive

#

I just need some of whispyr's rng

spice spire
#

That reminds me of the dm I sent oxi last night monkascheme

#

Where I overtime marked the episode monkascheme

#

I literally marked one part “whispyr is too fucking lucky”

timid cloud
#

Other rogue in our guild got all the pieces on Tarragrue one week, then double eons back to back.

#

Mans was ready to lose it.

glass tulip
#

im hoping when everyone logs on their are too many server requests, the logins get jumbled, and I just log on to oxi's account

spice spire
timid cloud
nocturne geode
#

@glass tulip what if your vault is bugged and your dagger is there and you cnat take it

glass tulip
#

I mean that would be great

nocturne geode
#

so they have to reset your vault and then theres no dagger

glass tulip
#

bc it means I can submit a ticket and get one

#

with my choice of tertiary

nocturne geode
#

kap

glass tulip
nocturne geode
#

no shot

timid cloud
#

Lol what if it’s in slot 2, but it shows in slot 1, then you take it, but it gives you the KT trinket.

#

The ‘ol mystery door.

glass tulip
#

I wouldnt even be mad

nocturne geode
#

id be mad bc i never have even seen one drop

glass tulip
#

I already have 1 dagger with speed so ideally I clear heroic next week and get a 265 mainhand and im just good to go

timid cloud
#

Sheeeesh

gusty mirage
rose ermine
#

lmfao

radiant gale
#

For Sepsis is there a specific ability we should be using or nah? I was using Ambush but mainly since I'm not sure if there was a better choice

spice spire
#

Ambush next tier

radiant gale
#

For when it times out on a living mob

spice spire
#

If you need a silence like for m+ garrote will silence, but won’t be subt empowered

#

Or a stun obviously

#

But in raid, ambush

radiant gale
#

Cool cool cool

#

Thanks ❤️ I thought it'd be the case unless otherwise called for but wanted to make sure

spice spire
#

Any time happybear

timid cloud
quasi grotto
#

can i still farm renown nect week? torg is killinmg me not giving me renown

fading wigeon
#

Everything in zeroth mortis will basically give you renown

#

Don't sweat it

potent dagger
#

Hey mates , just a little question , i wonder why using unity legendary on wrist instead of waist ?

spice spire
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Min-max thing on setting up
Max ilvl waist drops off the jailer while we have no wrist over base 278.
It’s a generic suggestion, you can adjust to wherever it’s needed

rose ermine
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Literally coming back to the game. I don’t even have Kortgia done. Lmao.

spice spire
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Doesn’t matter

potent dagger
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Ok i see , thanks for the info 😉

spice spire
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Ye no worries

rose ermine
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I should be able to just blaze through Korthia and then get to Zereth.

fading wigeon
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You can ignore korthia

spice spire
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Oh yeah I guess you have to do the campaign

fading wigeon
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When you log on

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You will be greeted with new campaign

timid cloud
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I am pretty sure you can skip Korthia now, can't you?

spice spire
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I’m not 100% sure on that, if you haven’t done the campaign anywhere

fading wigeon
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You can skip old campaign

timid cloud
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Or is it still locked to the actual campaign?

fading wigeon
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Just have to do the new campaign

spice spire
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Excellent, I’m not sure so I can’t say either way rooDerp

fading wigeon
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Sec let me get article

timid cloud
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Yeah, I didn't know about FRESH FRESH

pure moth
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yeah it only said alts can skip stuff. so you might have to do it once. who knows

spice spire
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Oh sick

fading wigeon
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Thanks quake

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Was just about to post but you are faster

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Lol

timid cloud
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Oh banger.

spice spire
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No, thank you for answering something I was clueless on rooDerp

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I was like “I’m just gonna confirm, oh, sick, here’s the info”

timid cloud
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Yeah.

fading wigeon
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Yeah had to look it up for friends. So many are coming back

timid cloud
fading wigeon
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Super excited!

violet hemlock
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Yo what are those?

fading wigeon
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Lol

rose ermine
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Whaaaat! That's so sick I was so disappointed that I had to do all that stuff.

spice spire
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Friends?

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They’re everywhere iker happybear

fading wigeon
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Haha

spice spire
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yejoice glad someone helped you wemp

timid cloud
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My only friend is the bear from Ikea...

rose ermine
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AMEN.

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So I hope since I've already chosen my cov that I can just go back and speak to them.

alpine latch
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I was slowly scrolling through chat and saw something like "Whispyr is fucking lazy" and now I'm questioning if I should scroll back up and read it

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lol

spice spire
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Lucky

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You read “whispyr is too fucking lucky”

alpine latch
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Oh