assassination

[hollow river]

same

we don't need nf immediately tbh

but def need kyrian if playing sub i feel

[subtle tundra]

ill play whatever is best, so if sub is better ill need kyrian

[hollow river]

yeah same

[gusty mirage]

doomblade hands, or duskwalker's ring

doomblade is better if you can stick on the target, dusk is better for more vendetta goes

[carmine dawn]

Damn I missed the saving this train

[echo geyser]

no longer sin 1 trick ?

[ashen scroll]

on soulrender do i CT on ST?

or only for adds

[carmine dawn]

#assassination-faq message

[woven ruin]

Does m+ season end this week or 2nd week of 9.2?

[gusty mirage]

this week

next week is "post season"

[viscid spear]

Playoffs?!?!

[gusty mirage]

no jim mora, not playoffs

[carmine dawn]

oxi can you run a topgear for me

good buddy ol pal

[gusty mirage]

Yeah just give me a sec to boot up the laptop

I’m in bed doing some work rn

Old man vibes. Ya feel?

[carmine dawn]

oh dont worry about it then

dont wanna bother you

[gusty mirage]

Nah it ain’t a bother homie

Send it over

DM it to me

[carmine dawn]

ima just reload into that google doc from last time

pls hold

[balmy condor]

ima reload my nuts into your mouth ya feel brosephski?

[glass tulip]

[carmine dawn]

finally got kt shoulders i aint even mad

[spice spire]

I’m ready papi

[ember mural]

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/mag-reload-horse-head-gif-14690568

[spice spire]

ayo?

[gusty mirage]

Where… why… how?

[peak bobcat]

in 9.2 how many targets does it take for necro to beat Night Fae?

[strange python]

Whos got the sims for M EoN beating M daggers?

[drifting cloud]

pin

[glass tulip]

[strange python]

tyty

[exotic rose]

Hey guys, does the single stealth use ability from sepsis cause garrote to trigger Subterfuge?

[bleak sky]

no

but it applies iron wire

[spice spire]

^

[spare flame]

I assume this dagger info in pins only applys to assa and not sub?

[spice spire]

Yes

[spare flame]

😦

[spice spire]

Pins in assassination are for assassination. Daggers better for sub

[glass tulip]

Pins in assassination are for assassination

says who

[spice spire]

[bleak sky]

i'm running duskwalkers nf outlaw

and you can't stop me

[spice spire]

[glass tulip]

let us know how that goes

[brazen zodiac]

hi gamers

[bleak sky]

hi vita

[brazen zodiac]

how r u

[glass tulip]

waiting to play 9.2

[brazen zodiac]

me too!

[bleak sky]

still farming monies on poe

still poor

[brazen zodiac]

just heist

make a hardcore character and ill give u a bunch of contracts for free :)

i actually got a sick eater implicit 7% reduced healing against enemies if killed recently

fucking based

show me ur atlas tree im curious

[light merlin]

why is shrouded suffocation not baseline / a legendary?

[misty holly]

They should just make all the stealth talents baseline and give us a real row

I want +20 move speed, 3 seconds and +50 crit

stealth moves should be cool

[glass tulip]

ambush

[balmy condor]

because there's no good way to make that baseline without it making subterfuge the go to

subterfuge is basically shrouded suffocation

[light merlin]

and it should be the go to

[balmy condor]

[light merlin]

who the fuck cares about other talents on that tier

[balmy condor]

everyone who has been raiding every tier in the last 4 years except for nyalotha

[light merlin]

play MA like a man

...but uh, not as sin

[balmy condor]

what

[light merlin]

the leggo I mean

[grim tangle]

fuck shrouded suffocation I want echoing blade

[balmy condor]

I don't know where this convo is going

I'm kinda lost tbh

[brazen zodiac]

hi whisp

[balmy condor]

what does MA lego have to do with this?

no one uses it

[bleak sky]

this convo is going straight to PLAY KYRIAN WITH PELAGOS FOR THE MASTERY

[light merlin]

based

all I'm saying is subterfuge for sin is iconic and should be encouraged

[balmy condor]

it is being encouraged

[bleak sky]

yeah but having literally 1 choice for talent is bad

[balmy condor]

we play it with tier

[bleak sky]

like alacrity

[glass tulip]

mastery stacking i loooost

[balmy condor]

you get to play all the subterfuge you'd like next patch

we've been playing subterfuge in keys for 3 expansions

[light merlin]

the game is riddled with having 1 optimal choice per tier, why fight against it?

[oak sky]

why complain about that row of all the rows

its a good talent row other than MA not being 100%

[hollow river]

[glass tulip]

what are the other talents on the cheat death row, thats the real question

because fuck if i know

[balmy condor]

[bleak sky]

not an elusive enjoyer huh

[balmy condor]

why complain about anything

ever

at all

[glass tulip]

im not a pvp lord like @gusty mirage

[ashen scroll]

cheat is a dps cd

[misty holly]

Leech is very good for soloing.

[bleak sky]

humans enjoy complaining

[balmy condor]

leech is also just good

[grim tangle]

I played leeching poison for almost all of nyaloyha

[hollow river]

Alacrity and exsanguinate that’s why

[balmy condor]

seli ran leeching on prog this tier for I think 8/10 bosses

[hollow river]

[balmy condor]

and with fae and podtender you're probably gonna play leeching in a lot of 9.2 fights as well

[brazen zodiac]

heck yeah spicin it up

[light merlin]

so what's a fun leggo for m+ assassin, just got back to the game

[glass tulip]

do I install poe to improve my assass skills @brazen zodiac @bleak sky

[bleak sky]

yes

[hollow river]

MA leggo

[light merlin]

my man

[hollow river]

Nightstalker MFD and CT

[light merlin]

how the fuck do I open with ma sin

[hollow river]

[glass tulip]

notrickz what did i just read

[misty holly]

What if crit could go over 100%, and you could start like double critting.

[light merlin]

fok ct fok envenom?

[hollow river]

9.0.5 meme build

[bleak sky]

seli, whisp, vita, guy
all the rogue gigachads play poe so

[glass tulip]

[misty holly]

Like with MA talent and legendary you could start doing 3x damage

or shit with enough baseline crit maybe even 4x

[bleak sky]

jesus no

please no

[brazen zodiac]

uh yeah itll make u better at wow

[balmy condor]

then you still wouldn't play MA

[brazen zodiac]

path and wow are pretty similar

the new boss is pretty similar to painsmith too lmfao

[light merlin]

call me an idiot but even azerite powers looked more interesting for sin than these leggos

[glossy tulip]

I think azerite power was a cool idea with shit execution

[light merlin]

100% shit execution but very cool effects imo

even the combat snake eyes was interesting

troll, but interesting

[regal cedar]

So is the spreadsheet saying necro is now best for single target?

[misty holly]

with 4 piece set and 1 legendary yes

if you dont have 4 piece yet, no

[regal cedar]

Oh 1 legendary

[misty holly]

and if you have 2 leggo no

I'm looking forward to being on top for 1 week if I can put together a set fast enough

it will be glorious

[balmy condor]

what

no

hol up

@regal cedar necro is in no way the best in single target

[hollow river]

[balmy condor]

you must be looking at the wrong chart

[hollow river]

he said single leggo

[balmy condor]

[hollow river]

[balmy condor]

he said single target

[hollow river]

Pushy! — Today at 12:22 AM
Oh 1 legendary

yeah ik

isn't it the best ST with tier and 1 leggo

[balmy condor]

where on this does it say necro is the best with anything

[hollow river]

or is the list in a weird order from the other day

[balmy condor]

bro I'm getting fucking gaslit

over my own spreadsheet

wtf

[hollow river]

lmao im not trying to gaslight you bro

i was thinking back to the screenshot, like the ones you always take

[bleak sky]

[hollow river]

not the spreadsheet at all

it's not the best ST single leggo but it's like barely behind nf at that point

[balmy condor]

[hollow river]

my bizzle

[balmy condor]

what is that

[hollow river]

[balmy condor]

@gusty mirage homie what the fuck

[light merlin]

boys

[hollow river]

is venthyr supposed to be 12.5k and not 11.5k

[light merlin]

is the new :pepega: can someone fucking inform me?

[glass tulip]

@gusty mirage why are you misleading the sheeple

[hollow river]

or am i blind as fuck

[bleak sky]

no it's different

you need to feel starege to understand starege

[light merlin]

ok so I'm staring at my screen

[misty holly]

lol did I start a fight by saying necro is good. My job is done here, I'll see myself out now. Apologies!

[light merlin]

attempting to cross-eyed to accommodate that type of pornography

[hollow river]

it's like "pepega i'm staring at this dude wondering what on earth he is talking about and why i am even here in the first place" pepega

[bleak sky]

truly a bonespike pfp enjoyer

[balmy condor]

necro is good

it's just not the best

in single target

in any combination

[light merlin]

ok but If I were to pepega--stare whilst you , am I straight or are you gay?

[bleak sky]

yeah but necro being decent with 4p single leggo means we can enjoy it for a lil bit

[hollow river]

ye but like 50 dps behind if you get lucky on tier before 2 leggo

is pretty dope

yeah

[bleak sky]

we should have tier before 2 leggo 100% right

[hollow river]

no

it's considered "100%" you'll get your tier by week 5

[bleak sky]

[hollow river]

and that's not guaranteed

[bleak sky]

tier set drops

[hollow river]

some people will get lucky and have it week 3

some people will be unlucky and get it like week 7

need to find a weekend guild to gear my alt

[bleak sky]

come to mine

[light merlin]

ok so let me get this straight, is the equivalent of stereoscopic hentai ~2007ish

or is everyone here a zoomer?

[bleak sky]

most in here are zoomers I think

[light merlin]

rogues, never change

[hollow river]

aren't you eu?

[glass tulip]

n

area52

[hollow river]

do you want an enhancement shaman or fury warrior

[oak sky]

its literally just PogO

[bleak sky]

my schedule is just fucked

[hollow river]

looool

i know the feeling

[compact plover]

im a boomer mut rogue

[oak sky]

hes br bro

[hexed frost]

I am prepared for night fae supremacy, are you?

[timid cloud]

Both Rogues already got the 8 covenants ready.

But I’m not so crazy as my friend who has done 8 SEPERATE Ferals.

[bleak sky]

bruh

is your friend ok in the head

[whole mason]

I think Koji posted one result before things updated on raidbot that Necro gets top in 4+1 for ST at around 11938 dps

It should be this one: #916546791472783371 message

[vestal wren]

necrolord does sound like a nice early choice

[whole mason]

For one thing, it is still early imo despite the fact there is a 7 days countdown. Sims should not be taken into detailed comparison for the moment, at least not before spec profiles.

[balmy condor]

Kinda hate that

Necro stomps so hard in cleave and aoe and then is equal in single target

Kinda ridiculous

[whole mason]

but only for couple of weeks.

if that's what you want to talk about

[timid cloud]

On paper.

I’m still waiting for this guide guy to tell me what’s the best, & tell me the BIS.

[reef axle]

we have a comparison? sin and sub pretty close in 9,2 arent they?

[strange python]

what is opener with NF, 4P, 2x leggo?

[bleak sky]

EDIT: THIS IS M+, I'M DUMB

https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bMHXCAgRTGpPs1684HFMZf/simc

double garrote

[timid cloud]

What is this, NYA?

[bleak sky]

I really thought it'd be garret snd ambush

and not garret garret snd

[timid cloud]

Whenever we did garrote the opener was 1 of 2.

Garrote rupture garrote for extension, or garrote garrote rupture.

Obviously that was before SND

[bleak sky]

whispur is away I don't wanna ping him

[whole mason]

what is this sim..? Vigor?

[bleak sky]

wait

[strange python]

vigor and ct

[timid cloud]

Has to be. I don’t think we’re playing MFD next tier. Energy costs too high.

[bleak sky]

my dumb ass took the m+ sim

ignore everything

[timid cloud]

Oh Lordy

You put the fear of god into me.

Jk it was alright. I just got war flashbacks of CT.

[bleak sky]

ok this feels right

feels good to be dumb sometimes y'know

all the time (me): sucks

[timid cloud]

I better not say anything about CT or Cev will come out & beat me down streets.

Or Bonespike otherwise Sel will do a drive-by on me.

[strange python]

thanks, and this is with DS?

[bleak sky]

yeah you can find stuff here

https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sojMbghFfrDworpbj45REy/simc

that's the patchwerk sim

[strange python]

i see, ty much

[small nymph]

In AoE situations, like the Ardenweald urn pull in DoS. Would you open with 4 Garrotes and CT, shiv and Vendetta then spam CT while Vendetta is up with the new 4pc? Or let CT run out before applying a new one?

[bleak sky]

you don't really spam ct

you just reapply it earlier when in very large packs

[small nymph]

Fair enough

[hardy dagger]

In what way does countermeasure synergize with frost set. Is it just that it has crit on it?

[timid cloud]

Lots of crit, & the effect is strong in ST

With massive uptime.

[tight ginkgo]

Yeah, Frost set really likes lots of hits in its windows and things which add damage on top of all our already-fast auto attacks just but rather a lot into that window

[tight ginkgo]

surprised to see sepsis sent a few globals before vendetta and shiv here – I thought the "new logic" was you'd always want it to be like after each of those windows

I need to freshen up on that D:

[bleak sky]

it's M+

I should edit that

[tight ginkgo]

OH DUH

[bleak sky]

I grabbed the wrong sim like a bonobo

[tight ginkgo]

Im half awake one day i will learn

to not post when im half awake

[vale marten]

the 278 conduit item isnt BoA right?

[violet island]

It is not

[gusty mirage]

Bro why the fuck are you pinging me at 1am twice on a weekday like I don’t have a job

[gusty mirage]

What, I’m not reading through 100 messages

[oak sky]

it was bc you said necro was best i think

[glass tulip]

[bleak sky]

yea we been through that oxi

[gusty mirage]

Am I getting gas lit?

[bleak sky]

ill get you up to speed

[gusty mirage]

No, please don’t.

I don’t care

[bleak sky]

necro bad -> no necro good -> whats the 9.2 leggo -> whats the 9.2 covenant -> show benis -> rogue dead???? -> rogue good -> minalba stupid -> oxi mad

[gusty mirage]

I’ll update the pins

Great

Wonderful

There updated, go to bed you degenerates

[oak sky]

i cant

[glass tulip]

I just woke up for the day

Parts of the wowhead guide came out

[spice spire]

Bro what’s work. Always gotta be in the wow grustle king

[bold mortar]

Wut, where? 😮 can only see the 9.1.5 one there 😮

[spice spire]

https://www.wowhead.com/guides/assassination-rogue-class-changes-analysis-patch-9-2-shadowlands

[glass tulip]

It's basically everything that is pinned here

[spice spire]

Yeah, no new info. But it’s in a concise bit for those who need it

[bold mortar]

ahh right 🙂

[slow marsh]

Hi did I miss anything while I was gone

[gusty mirage]

you were gone?

[vestal wren]

trinket changes today iirc, but nothing else

[slow marsh]

[slow marsh]

Who annoyed you for the last week

[bleak sky]

Everyone and everything

[slow marsh]

Oh so the usual nice

[gusty mirage]

Yes

[spice spire]

It was me

[verbal mantle]

it was me

[agile osprey]

Well no dagger in my final Sylv kill last night..... big prayers for my last vault 😦

[glass tulip]

just farm it next patch

[agile osprey]

If I have to try and pug sanctum in 9.2 I will be very unhappy

[bleak sky]

there's nothing in sanctum for any other classes

[agile osprey]

This is more of a hit for me playing sub though if anything

[bleak sky]

sub is still ahead without daggers

[glass tulip]

bis til end of expac, feelsbadman not having at least 1

[agile osprey]

I also ran vault of the wardens 180 times during timewalking without getting the faulty countermeasure

so my rng is just fucked

[glass tulip]

that is agreon's fault for getting his in 2

[brazen zodiac]

good morning

[glass tulip]

gamer

[bleak sky]

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

tell george I love him

[limber lion]

not sure if I buy this

180 is such an absurd number

[hollow river]

Ohayo

[limber lion]

[gusty mirage]

@limber lion

[limber lion]

👋

[agile osprey]

I started playing the game in BFA

[regal cedar]

Hi all! Switching from feral for reasons 😦 as someone who plays their class very well, if I plan to main assasination in raid, and either outlaw or sub to push m+( whatever ends up being better), what order would you level your covenants? I’d like to min max. Right now I’m finishing venthyr, but don’t know what to level next, and 3rd. I really want to pus m+ this season, hence dropping feral. Any thoughts would be wonderful

[limber lion]

I think I counted that the chance to get the trinket is 1/67 or something like that

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/glasses-off-hold-up-wait-pause-evaluate-gif-14752535

[limber lion]

So you should be on trinket number 3 by now

That sucks

[gusty mirage]

blizzard hates you

[agile osprey]

Yep, I got 3 of the other shitty trinket

[gusty mirage]

wtf

[agile osprey]

and every other item for that matter

[limber lion]

Got mine around run number 54

[alpine radish]

Venthyr then fae?

Keys do necro next

[gusty mirage]

I got mine at 44 and it was funneled to me

[agile osprey]

I had a funnel for about 30 of the runs too lol

[limber lion]

If you're planning on only doing keys mainly, then Venthyr first followed by Necro

The other 2 you won't need.

[gusty mirage]

venthyr and fae would be enough if you plan on pushing as sub

[alpine radish]

Ive gottem all 80 after dropping lock

Not playing demo for another tier

Pretty easy to level renown on the side as i spam torghast on rogue anyway to funnel ash and cinders (when that comes) to alts if that gives you any ideas

[bleak sky]

push as sin

[gusty mirage]

raid as fae for sin, push as sub. But if you want to play outlaw too, level necro

[agile osprey]

and if you ever want to dabble in raiding as sub, snag kyrian while you're at it

[limber lion]

I can't wait to play Necrolord with 4p and single legendary

Shit's gonna be dope

[gusty mirage]

yeah it's kind of a situation where you need all 4 at 80 if you want to flex specs in dif situations

[alpine radish]

Fact hahA

Got to the point where i was like

I can use all of them situationally 😂

May as well level them all rip

Ptsd from torghast spams but im never low on ash and cinders!

[glass tulip]

I missed the lore intro, why is ceveriontwo the main for this tier

as opposed to the OG

[timid cloud]

...

I’m getting Gaslit into NF & then NL is going to be better.

[spice spire]

Necrolord sin supremacy ;>

[timid cloud]

[gusty mirage]

yeah for 3 weeks

[spice spire]

@gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

[timid cloud]

Why’re you pinging him like he doesn’t have things to do...

[glass tulip]

its 1 am bro

this man has a job

[timid cloud]

Back to the TC MINES with you!

[spice spire]

Don’t let him gaslight you bro.
He loves being pinged*

*by me

[timid cloud]

I ping everyone.

[gusty mirage]

as soon as I'm out of this hearing

I'll have some choice words for you

[timid cloud]

WHOAAAAA

[bleak sky]

not even prime words sheesh

[glass tulip]

did you just make a beef grade joke

because that is A1

[timid cloud]

At least Cev missed me meme’ing about CT, Chat moving too fast, he’ll never see me talking shit.

Keep it up, I got something thick & hearty for you both.

[gusty mirage]

bro?

[timid cloud]

.

The SBS sims, of course.

[bleak sky]

me when gemstone windows

[timid cloud]

Whispyr looking at the sims during 2 target cleave with SBS.

[viscid spear]

So should be craft Duskwalker on cloak now?

[gusty mirage]

wat

[bleak sky]

no you psychopath

[glass tulip]

the guide is already outdated

[viscid spear]

[gusty mirage]

now I know why scath quit being a green name

y'all mfers need help

[timid cloud]

CLOAK?! WHAT IS THIS? 9.1???

Need to echo chamber harder tbh.

[timid cloud]

🔈

[viscid spear]

Wowhead linked me to the guide and it said last update 2/15

[glass tulip]

basically this is what happens

you make duskwalkers on a ring

[viscid spear]

It's early in the morning

[glass tulip]

and then after you get a 4 set in whichever slots you want

[viscid spear]

I misread it

[glass tulip]

and then you make the unity on whatever is going to be best for your gear after that

it isnt going to be hard and fast this time

[viscid spear]

Is it worth crafting the Dusk ring now then

[gusty mirage]

no

you won't use it until you get the 4pc

[glass tulip]

well you have to spend money now on a r6 and money on r7

[bleak sky]

it's gonna be a while until 4pc ash

[glass tulip]

or just r7 later

[echo geyser]

idk wether to buy all possible Lego slots now or just wait till later

[glass tulip]

for what purpose?

[viscid spear]

I just know shit's gonna be expensive probably

[echo geyser]

Saving gold

[glass tulip]

but you cant buy rank 7s so is it even worth it

[gusty mirage]

you need your gold for the BMAH goodies ram

[viscid spear]

It's a better realm than I was before, so that's encouraging

[echo geyser]

Hm thats true

[gusty mirage]

bobby needs a new yacht, buy some tokens

[echo geyser]

No specs use new legos until tier slots i suppose

I need to check if my current legos are tier slots i guess

Recraft now maybe

[gusty mirage]

shouldn't be unless you have one made specifically for m+

[viscid spear]

I needed my coffee

[glass tulip]

what are the 5? head, shoulders, chest, hands, legs?

[viscid spear]

So now I'm not dumb

[echo geyser]

6 pieces isnt it?

[glass tulip]

I thought it was 4/5 needed

checking

[gusty mirage]

yup

[gusty mirage]

naw its 5

[alpine radish]

4 neexed 5 slots

[drifting cloud]

noob

[echo geyser]

I see

[drifting cloud]

thats old wow ramfam before personal looot

we dont do that here

[echo geyser]

I got toxic onslaught on legs

But prob wont use that anyways till late

[glass tulip]

and the way that I understood it even if you have a 259 piece equipped, you cant trade away a Normal raid tier piece until you have already aquired a tier piece of equivalent level in that slot

so splits will happen only with people who get those week 1, which is gonna be rough to find the groups for

[viscid spear]

Yeah, 259 tier > 259 non-tier

[alpine radish]

You will probs bin that lego anyway so you can use the exalted memory to have all 4 on

[echo geyser]

True its a cov lego

[alpine radish]

You are gucci

[echo geyser]

I guess r6 legos kinda useless then

[glass tulip]

cock

[echo geyser]

Maybe ill buy missives

[viscid spear]

I'll be honest with you guys ||I thought the double leggo meant two effects on the same piece||

[alpine radish]

R6 probs really cheap now

Korthite crystals are really cheap

So its only really for first 5 weeks

[glass tulip]

much cheaper to buy mats and craft

than ah

[strange python]

tryna tell me it will take less than 50k for me to craft all the way to rank 6 than to actually buy rank 6 from ah

rank 6 legs

[glass tulip]

not at all

[hollow river]

Legendaries and korthite is pretty expensive rn on my servers

[echo geyser]

You get a guildie to craft it for u

[spice spire]

This is going on your quarterly review

[glass tulip]

firstly, I meant to pay a crafter or to already have the rank unlocked

[hollow river]

People are buying it out in prep for patch

[echo geyser]

[alpine radish]

High pop should be fine

But not important

[hollow river]

I’m on high pop

[grim tangle]

my guild pays for raiders leggos :)

[alpine radish]

Rip

[glass tulip]

jesus sign me up

[viscid spear]

Not recently, I meant just when it was first announced

[bleak sky]

yall looking for a rogue/dh/bdk/spriest/restosham/war/survhunter?

[alpine radish]

Got like every single one on rogue incl 9.2 legos - milk me bobby

[glass tulip]

my cash stack is gonna zoom out of my pockets

cant wait to get back to sales

[bleak sky]

it's that time of the season mav

[alpine radish]

Esp when those r7s come put

Out

[bleak sky]

rush io, boost the fuck out of your mind and coast

[glass tulip]

yeah my team will be selling +20s asap

making absolute bank

[alpine radish]

The lego system was xefinitely made to get ppl go buy gold tokens 😂 😂 😂

Yeah now those conduits are from KSH those 20s gonna be flying off

[bleak sky]

people who care about those are probably good enough to do it themselves tho

[glass tulip]

doesnt mean they will

[alpine radish]

https://tenor.com/view/money-breaking-bad-sleep-on-money-lay-on-money-money-pile-gif-5382667

[spice spire]

Not necessarily mister minalba

[glass tulip]

I am capable of farming an alt but do i want to

that's the thing

[spice spire]

^

[bleak sky]

you sneak them into guild runs

[glass tulip]

when you got 600k to buy a key run you dont care lol

[bleak sky]

and make your guildies gear them

[spice spire]

Your alt just needs to be 1/12M

Don’t forget

[echo geyser]

Can u instantly unlock those conduits if u run keys now that they removed rep req?

[bleak sky]

I think so ram

[glass tulip]

no

still gated by campaign

[bleak sky]

oh campaign

[spice spire]

Week 3

[bleak sky]

[spice spire]

Of mythic

[glass tulip]

ramfam, did you guys sell any R1 level keys that were going for like 1.5 mil each

[echo geyser]

[bleak sky]

I know critcake and friends made fucking BANK

[glass tulip]

[spice spire]

Mister ramfam, and speak clearly into the mic, is it true you’re a mage main next tier?

[echo geyser]

[spice spire]

We live in a society

[echo geyser]

I plead the 5th amendment

Oxi is my laywer

[glass tulip]

I've been watching thaner's yt videos of the WF keys and I really just wont be able to handle not seeing a yellow ram

[echo geyser]

[hollow river]

[spice spire]

Die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain

[glass tulip]

so what I hear is your team is looking for a rogue

[echo geyser]

speed is rogue

[hollow river]

[glass tulip]

speed?!

betrayal

[bleak sky]

ram you can't do this to us

[glass tulip]

you're all we have

[agile osprey]

F

[echo geyser]

[spice spire]

LMAO

[glass tulip]

[spice spire]

I did this as a meme

At least he’s not a fire mage

Right?

[bleak sky]

ravenholdt international day of mourning, 17/02/2022

reasoning: ramfam quit rogue for the chad keys

[echo geyser]

[spice spire]

Right?

[echo geyser]

Im still raiding on rogue

[spice spire]

[echo geyser]

[alpine radish]

https://tenor.com/view/why-tho-though-gif-7485441

[spice spire]

He’s truly on that hero class

If they need a mage compared to a rogue, that’s why

[echo geyser]

Rogue main in raid

[spice spire]

It’s not often you just get to play in a top tier mythic group. So if they need a swap

It’s all memes

[carmine dawn]

Sheepfam

[spice spire]

At least he’s staying true to himself

[carmine dawn]

Cuz polymorph get it

[gusty mirage]

[cerulean junco]

Ramwar?

[echo geyser]

[carmine dawn]

[spice spire]

“He’s a ram, dipshit”

Literally on his stream

[bleak sky]

ramzam

[spice spire]

ZAMN

[bleak sky]

ZAMN ZADDY

[carmine dawn]

Might be a sheep has anyone asked him

Who’s to say

[hollow river]

Where’s Ramsham????

[spice spire]

I like his coverup for chat tho.
It’s why I said it, gives me a chuckle every time

[spice spire]

You’re tryna make me act up

Sorry king, I’m a man of god

[bleak sky]

find god

[glass tulip]

[echo geyser]

its a possibility, i did boost one in sl but went ww instead

Glad i did

[spice spire]

Filthy fotm key enjoyer ramfam

[glass tulip]

is it tuesday yet I wanna play wow

[hollow river]

If Enhance stays good it’ll likely be my dedicated alt

[bleak sky]

I still don't know what to play for keys either

[hollow river]

I’ve got my warrior too

For keys

[spice spire]

You ever go Necro arms in keys?

I don’t recommend kings

[glass tulip]

when I see Fury war doing 17k in my SD keys it makes me feel some type of way

[carmine dawn]

Warriors are friends not food

[bleak sky]

warriors are release monkeys

tell them to wait 1 gcd before charging and they ook ook

[glass tulip]

"bro why did I pull threat"

[spice spire]

Bro I wait 2-3 I’ve ripped aggro off so many tanks

[glass tulip]

maybe bc the tank thrashed once to group

[carmine dawn]

Do you guys not tricks

[glass tulip]

tricks on a warrior

[carmine dawn]

Oh I’m in the wrong discord

[spice spire]

Can’t you see this is the assassination warrior spec channel

[glass tulip]

#warrior-alts

[carmine dawn]

No I actually spaced for a second I forgot you were talking about warrior

[spice spire]

No you’re good it’s memes.
I’ve learned in my limited time as a warrior, I’ve been reliant on tricks

[glass tulip]

only time I pull aggro on rogue is when I forget to tricks and blow cds on one trash mob

[brazen zodiac]

xd

[glass tulip]

like opening pull of SD where I go balls deep on mistdancer

[bleak sky]

tricks doesn't do shit sometimes it's insane

(for our warrior brothers)

[glass tulip]

I tricks the warriors so they die faster

[spice spire]

“CDs” aka you vendetta’d a mob and aggro’d it

[spice spire]

Dps terrorism

Respect

[bleak sky]

fok envenom fok envenom fok envenom PLS TAUNT

[glass tulip]

then the run back time is when the tanks can build aggro to hold off the wars

[spice spire]

Korayn aftershock > bladeflurry
Number one cause of deaths for me BABY

[viscid spear]

But you're Necro...?

[spice spire]

For a singular plaguefall

Because it was me the boomkin or a mage

Though tbh, prot warrior should have, but he’s a slut for damage

[bleak sky]

prot warrior

[glass tulip]

theres your first mistake

[bleak sky]

I haven't ran with one in ages it's insane

[spice spire]

There’s a reason
It was chill 15s

But they do a metric fuck ton of damage

He’s a lock main.
If he has to tank keys he rolls bdk, but he’s a really good warrior too.
Just an overall gamer tbh

[alpine radish]

Did they just fall off as soon as they nerfed reprisal or w/e that lego was ?

[bleak sky]

know what else does damage? every other tank (minus bdk)

with the bonus of staying alive always

[spice spire]

I mean he was pulling 8ish chilling

He was number two in a mists

[alpine latch]

OMG, it's even worse for Pallies. Seriously, WTF is up with Pallies and their threat? It's bonkers

[spice spire]

I’ve seen pallies pull those kind of numbers, but warrior is sketch

[alpine latch]

2 buttons later and the Pally is on the ground

[spice spire]

Pallies have hella threat

[bleak sky]

[alpine latch]

It's stupid, lol

[spice spire]

As prot.
Or do you mean Ret?

[alpine latch]

Ret

[bleak sky]

I'd like to see blizz giving ret/warrs a minus threat multi somewhere

[spice spire]

Cuz yeah Ret also an aggro terrorist

[alpine latch]

Every Ret pally I have ran with dies like 3x more than anyone else

Because they just rip threat and die instantly

Our healer's last portal she needed was ToP

And with hunter MD and my Tricks, the Pally still died constantly

The only thing I've seen die more is a NF DH that thinks Hunt should be used on-pull

[bleak sky]

|| it should ||

jk but you do want first strike crit with it

[spice spire]

Yeah you give a couple of globals

I ran with a Necro dh last night

[bleak sky]

but the reality is:
bursty classes are gonna pull threat sometimes; you gotta learn to wait; helps a fuckton to have a good tank doing their most to generate threat

[spice spire]

That was a new one

[alpine latch]

Isn't Necro DH best for ST?

Pretty sure that's what ours ran for raid

[bleak sky]

no

venthyr is the pure single target dh

[viscid spear]

Not being a DH is best

[bleak sky]

Factual

[glass tulip]

minalbafel is shaking rn

[bleak sky]

Fuck that guy

[spice spire]

Gonna have to ping your recruitment person for this one mister minalba

Sorry

[bleak sky]

Heard he's an ass

[spice spire]

Damn

I heard he was chill af too

[alpine latch]

Oh wow

Necro is pacing higher than NF now?

I just saw the updated pin

[bleak sky]

4p single leggo yeah

[alpine latch]

Yeah

Ohhh

That's single leggo

[spice spire]

Also realized that your dh has better logs than your rogue

[alpine latch]

derp

[spice spire]

Yeah, it’ll only be better for a very short time

NF still end game

I might continue the meme and int the tier

[glass tulip]

[alpine latch]

I saw the spreadsheet, forgot that double leggo is what put NF ahead

I'm fucking dumb

[bleak sky]

Don't remind me of that pls it's a disgrace to myself and my family

[spice spire]

Thoughts mister minalba?

[glass tulip]

92 average what are other DHs doing out there

[spice spire]

Not getting externals

[bleak sky]

gaming the fuck out of their minds

[spice spire]

[bleak sky]

I raid with a dps terrorist dh on weekend guild

I wanna be him but I can't

So I stay true to my purple average self

[glass tulip]

isnt your weekend guild whispyrs main raid lol

[spice spire]

How many raids do you do

Nah they don’t do weekends

[bleak sky]

Nah, that's weekdays mav

[glass tulip]

oh

[bleak sky]

|| 5 ||

[glass tulip]

my heart

[spice spire]

Wtf

How many are CE?

[bleak sky]

Yes

[glass tulip]

I LOST

[spice spire]

Mister minalba is this a cry for help?

Are you okay?

[bleak sky]

No but it's gonna be alright

[spice spire]

[glass tulip]

how do you find 5 raids with non-conflicting times lol

and also just like, be a person

[bleak sky]

Mon/tue/Thu/Fri/Sat

[spice spire]

Wednesday Sunday days off

[timid cloud]

People taking days off?

[bleak sky]

Here's the recipe:
Have a bad sleep schedule, work weird hours, no going out because covid, no seeing people because covid and there ya go

[timid cloud]

Raided Tuesday to Tuesday, we got alts to gear, baby.

Simply do not sleep.

Shit is

[bleak sky]

A sigma grindset enjoyer I see

[spice spire]

These are very unhealthy practices lol

[timid cloud]

Going to the bar & pretending it’s a personality trait is an unhealthy practice during a time when you could get really sick & then you’re fucked.

I’ll take my chances with WoW.

[glass tulip]

I mean I like the bar

[timid cloud]

I said what I said.

[glass tulip]

but wow exists

[bleak sky]

Ninjbread based wtf

[glass tulip]

and bottles of alcohol can sit on my desk

so

[timid cloud]

[spice spire]

No one mentioned going anywhere though

Being reclusive is natural in gaming, but grinding nonstop will lead to a bad burnout - in most cases

[timid cloud]

No burnout here.

[glass tulip]

im burned out by not raiding

i need my fix

[timid cloud]

I’ve been doing it long enough that I’m Gucci.

[bleak sky]

I had m+ burnout after 2500ish, stopped doing then for a month then picked it back up, was fun

[spice spire]

Taking two weeks off before tier, been yoinking io and learning arms warrior shit.

That’s generally the pattern I’ll fall too as well

[bleak sky]

Oh yeah I'm raid logging HARD rn

[spice spire]

Take a month off, or going light, raid log. Then back to enjoyment

[bleak sky]

I still had last week's flask for this week's raid

[spice spire]

Irl responsibilities also take precedent and will aid that

Oh I’m not that bad

[glass tulip]

raid logging - my man isnt logging off

[brazen zodiac]

sup mav

[timid cloud]

I’ve been banned for 2 weeks, so I’ve only got my main Rogue to deal with stuff, I get my Hunter, 2nd Rogue, Lock, Monk, Paladin, & Priest back in an hour.

[glass tulip]

im bored asf

gonna get food and find something to do @brazen zodiac

[brazen zodiac]

i might get on stardew but playin path rn cuz almost died

f

[glass tulip]

ill text you when I am not hangry and stardew ready

[timid cloud]

The only breaks on this train are when I get banned.

[spice spire]

I’d hope there are no breaks on the train

[slow marsh]

[spice spire]

Then that’s an incomplete train

[timid cloud]

I’ll let you live. For now.

[spice spire]

[timid cloud]

Ninja dust!

[glass tulip]

isnt that just yeast

breadman

[timid cloud]

It’s flour.

[fierce wind]

Yo @balmy condor , why subterfuge for raid in 9.2? Is it for the empowered garrote? Does vanish just become a defensive cd or to refresh empowered garrote now?

[timid cloud]

[violet hemlock]

its cause of the 4pc

big garrote get big buff

[timid cloud]

Does more damage.

[slow marsh]

Did you read what 2p 4p and subterfuge do

[spice spire]

2 and 4 pc synergizes with it, vanish will be offensive still.

[limber lion]

Because it literally does more damage.

There's no secret tech there

2 for CT, 4 for FOK

3 if spreading poisons with FoK

Also what

Shiv increases your nature damage by 25%

[spice spire]

Shiv is also a damage amp for us

[bleak sky]

Shiv is in the rotation because it does damage

[slow marsh]

#assassination-faq

[timid cloud]

There’s not?! This spec is the biggest brain spec there is....!

[limber lion]

The empowered poison thing is just an extra

Shiv is literally our best button

Even more so in 9.2

[timid cloud]

It’s the enable us to deal damage button.

[violet hemlock]

its massive

[spice spire]

2 piece shiv about to be wildin’ out

[alpine latch]

I really wish our Shiv blocked mobs in m+ from enraging while it was active

There's nothing worse than slamming shiv and it immediately enraging afterwards

[spice spire]

“Can you soothe this mob”
“No “

[bleak sky]

Yeah we don't have a soothe for 9.2 anymore

[alpine latch]

But the clutch "lol you enraged for 0.1s you noob" is fantastic

[timid cloud]

Just say the Bloodhorn from TOP & go.

The buff is not to you.

[limber lion]

bruh

read the tooltip

[spice spire]

Read shiv rank 2 - for assassination this is at level 58

[alpine latch]

It's not a buff on you, it's a debuff on the mob

[timid cloud]

...

[limber lion]

It's a debuff that you apply on your target

Literally read what the ability does lol

[timid cloud]

[fleet imp]

Sub andy

[limber lion]

You don't see garrote or rupture on you either

Or vendetta

[spice spire]

That explains it

[timid cloud]

[spice spire]

You get it at 58

[timid cloud]

I’m ready to pass away, my friends.

[spice spire]

And you can read up on it

No problem king, have a great one

[bleak sky]

Why do you know the levels you get stuff at you freak

[slow marsh]

I thought he meant I am 55 yrs old and can't read anymore ngl

[spice spire]

I’m literally an OTP

[echo geyser]

same actually

[bleak sky]

[echo geyser]

i was about to ask for proof

[timid cloud]

I’m dying.

Cheat Death didn’t proc, sorry lads.

[slow marsh]

I mean you never know these days

[echo geyser]

[timid cloud]

This is the end.

[spice spire]

Damn dude, should have been gaslit into NF for pod ig

[timid cloud]

Fuck...you....

[spice spire]

[alpine latch]

roflmao

[slow marsh]

I thought Necro was the gaslighting cov

[timid cloud]

Me dead after getting gaslit into NF YET AGAIN....

[spice spire]

It’s not gas lighting tho

[brazen zodiac]

sup quake, ice

[slow marsh]

Im playing Necro for all of 9.2 watch

[timid cloud]

For maximum damage, all bleeds must be on the target you are attacking, yes.

[spice spire]

Bleeds up (garrote and rupture) first and foremost, refresh during pandemic.
Use envenom (especially when PB is talented) as a filler finisher, in between ruptures.
Keep SND up at all times.
Maintain CT ST unless you’re running dashing, and CT with >1 target at all times

At this level, the FAQ is super helpful

And so are the wowhead, method, and icy veins guides.

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[spice spire]

They’re super flush with info and wowhead goes into a bit of depth by their own design

[timid cloud]

If you have any questions that are NOT answered in any of these guides you can also ask here though.

No such thing as a stupid question.

[slow marsh]

Do we spam CT in aoe

[timid cloud]

Unless it’s that.

[spice spire]

Survival hunter mains smh

[timid cloud]

[slow marsh]

[gusty mirage]

you can on over 8 targets if you want like 0.1% more dps and be labeled a degenerate

[timid cloud]

Garrote should be your top damage anyways.

[hollow escarp]

you mean black powder user?

[gusty mirage]

no black powder actually does damage

unlucky

[hollow escarp]

true

[viscid spear]

loots
[Linen Cloth]

[hollow river]

You mean we’re not like Venthyr boomkin cast sequence macroing off GCD abilities to all of our GCD abilities for more Venthyr ability stacks that give straight % damage?!

Sin would’ve been a better ramp spec

[clever kindle]

Imagine the absolute mental breakdowns people would have if Rogues had off-gcd abilities they could mix in during PVP

Its not like Boomkins can just one shot people

[glass tulip]

ksm mount is a recolor

[gusty mirage]

So is the glad mount

Minimal effort put forth for the last season rewards

[bleak sky]

tbh I really like this ksm recolor

[glass tulip]

it is nice

[bleak sky]

[gusty mirage]

Unfortunately I spoke to the guy who designed it and he said he hates you

Unlucky

[bleak sky]

oh we have something in common pog

we're gonna get along great

[gusty mirage]

You also hate you?

Cause twins

[glass tulip]

bro they really showed a worgen assassination rogue fok one target and thought we wouldnt notice

[gusty mirage]

I also hate me

[bleak sky]

twinning!!!!

[viscid spear]

Not enough orange things

[gusty mirage]

How many cp do you think he got?

[past belfry]

I’m sorry if this has been asked, I haven’t been active lately. But does our 2 set in 9.2 dynamically update bleed damage? Or is it on newly added bleeds?

[gusty mirage]

1?

[glass tulip]

1 max

[hollow escarp]

legion memes

[gusty mirage]

Dynamic

[hollow escarp]

[gusty mirage]

Cranks it for the duration of shiv

[past belfry]

Cool thank you!

[gusty mirage]

The sped up bleeds from the 4pc stays even for late applied bleeds

[past belfry]

This seems like a nice lil boost for m+ no?

Makes hitting shiv in aoe feel better

[gusty mirage]

Yeah it definitely helps give us a bit more power in cleave aoe

We’d still lose to sub in aoe though

[hollow escarp]

also makes raging weeks worse for assa

as we are kinda supposed to use shiv on enraged mobs

[gusty mirage]

How? That’s a Druids job bro

[past belfry]

Yeaaaa

[hollow escarp]

[gusty mirage]

Rdruid gonna be nutty next season, healer affix. Go next

[past belfry]

Hah! Yea, sin rogues don’t soothe 😎

[bleak sky]

and funnel, and single target, and ccs, and mobility, and

[hollow escarp]

and rng

[gusty mirage]

STOP HURTING ME BEFORE MY 4 DAY WEEKEND

[bleak sky]

[gusty mirage]

[vestal wren]

you sure about that with necro?

[bleak sky]

bp too strong

sbs doesn't make up for it I think

[vestal wren]

i haven't run a sum comparing it but sbs should be fairly strong

*sim

[gusty mirage]

Idk how much necro will compare via black powder spam tbh

BP with obedience & finality is probably massive

And by massive, I mean compared to the other rogue specs 😂

[vestal wren]

/ subtle bayblade music starts playing /

[gusty mirage]

Not ww monk that sneezes and deletes half a pack

[vestal wren]

haha true

rogue is still fairly... mediocre in terms of burst aoe

[bleak sky]

breadblades outlaw is gonna burst big in aoe

[gusty mirage]

Does it count as aoe if they’re still target capped?

[spice spire]

Someone get mister minalba some nopium so he doesn’t OD on that cope

[vestal wren]

outlaw:

[frosty bridge]

they will uncap outlaw heroic week

[vestal wren]

for sure

[gusty mirage]

Have you ran preliminary sims for them at max ilvl? 😂

[bleak sky]

stop saying stuff about uncapping outlaw

guy is gonna come in here and slap all of you saying it doesnt matter

[vestal wren]

only run sims with the tier profiles

[gusty mirage]

The t28 outlaw sims are yikers

[vestal wren]

i haven't seen one sadly, but i assume outlaw is behind

assassinations tier set + legendary combo just seems so powerful to bring it on par with subtlety

outlaw does not have this, what should logically mean that it stays quite a bit behind

[gusty mirage]

Oh prepare for all the zoomers to flood into sub

[spice spire]

It’ll just be me and you again oxi

[vestal wren]

but if you have a rough number, feel free to share

i have no idea how noticeable differences are

[hollow river]

I bet it brings you great joy to watch all the outlaw zoomers forced into learning the real rogue specs

[gusty mirage]

It does not

That just means more of them in here

[hollow river]

Oo I see

[bleak sky]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU WAIT TO PRESS BUTTONS

don't send everything on cd?

help am lost

[glass tulip]

the buttons dont glow?

[nocturne geode]

any necrolords in chat

[hollow river]

We’re all necro lords at heart

[nocturne geode]

hahaha nice edit

[spice spire]

Right here always

*except when I go NF next tier and venthyr in dungeons

[hollow river]

[nocturne geode]

👀

[past belfry]

Is NF a real contender?

I have a week to level renown then …

[spice spire]

Yes, in pins

With 4p double legendary NF becomes our best

[glass tulip]

you have several weeks for it

wont need it til at least week 5 of patch

[agile geode]

nfae is baseline unfortunatly

[placid dawn]

will 9.2 allow me to skip campaign and use all soulbinds without doing it? I really don't want to do the NF shit