assassination

[viscid spear]

But soon

[carmine token]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[gusty mirage]

Can confirm, it happened to the mages in a top I did last night

We had to burn 3 brezzes

[tight ginkgo]

yeah that's been happening a few weeks now. unfortunately.

Souls just be slippery i guess!

[balmy condor]

@gusty mirage hey frendo can we get an update to the pin, we're wrist crafters on unity (or helm for +0.3% but not recommended because tier)

[gusty mirage]

Just got home from work

[bleak sky]

so what you're sayingg is

get other 4 tier set pieces and craft on helm

got it

[normal mist]

Thank you guys for keeping us all informed

[balmy condor]

you'd be a lunatic to craft on helm for prog

[bleak sky]

just get the other 4

[normal mist]

Don't dare him, he will

[kindred heron]

!oil

[prisma monolith]

Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ

[gusty mirage]

Updated @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

tyty

[carmine token]

For sin, do we expect those stupid sylv daggers to last through the tier until mythic or do we think heroic daggers will easily outdamage them?

or wont know till we sim, can just speculate at this time ?

[hollow river]

i think mythic sylv off hand stays bis until new mythic dagger

but i could def be wrong

[carmine token]

I heard that for Sub, just not sure if that applies to sin

[hollow river]

for sub mythic/heroic sylv offhand stays bis for the rest of the expansion

never gets replaced

[viscid spear]

Sin gets less value from EoN than Sub

[brazen zodiac]

sylvannas dies tongiht

[carmine dawn]

this how he got me tbh

[strange python]

Question for rogues who know what they are doing more than me. WowAnalyzer is telling me I am using Master Assassin wrong, but I'm not sure what that means. What should I be doing after Master Assassin?

[pure moth]

Share a log so someone can look at your rotation and then we can figure out whats going on.

[glass tulip]

dont ever open that website ever again 🙂

it hasnt been updated for rogues since legion/early BFA if what I have been told is true

[echo geyser]

what ever happened to warcraft logs aquiring that log analyzer?

[fleet anchor]

They did

[strange python]

can anyone take a look at a log for me >_>

[glass tulip]

post it

[strange python]

i somehow did less damage on guardian than i did 5 months ago

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JxgQpZR18H73GXVn#fight=28&type=damage-done&source=61

is my set bonus fucked?

when i sim my winds is doing twice the damage

than what i got

[glass tulip]

just hyper unlucky

23% crits

[strange python]

wait lol

w0ow

[strange python]

wuts this

[glass tulip]

yeah thats a get good moment

0 crits

[strange python]

ohh

[glass tulip]

get good whispyr

[balmy condor]

did not play sin all tier

spec sin for 3 pulls

0% crit, 23% crit, 17% crit

N, subtlety, change spec

[strange python]

I'm like amazed

that the damage difference is so huge

started next boss and realized i didn't have poisons applied

not my lucky day

[viscid spear]

[spice spire]

Yeah I was about to say, your log is missing something

[viscid spear]

Need the juice on the sharp things

[oak sky]

@arctic walrus the mage got a 3 box last week of 9.1 🙏

[arctic walrus]

we finish the tier having the entire raid loot 2 shoulders off kt 🙏

luckily 1/2 is mine 🙏

[oak sky]

lol what

[echo geyser]

[oak sky]

my mage has unholy set now too

so value

[hollow river]

well

[glass tulip]

only KT pants on loot tonight, rest in pieces

[hollow river]

we fixed a couple of the shit ones before the end of the tier

[arctic walrus]

sheesh ur catching up

[gusty mirage]

lmfaooooooooo

holy shit

bro just toss sin in the garbage until next tier

jfc I'd be so tilted at that

[balmy condor]

I did

:)

I have not specced sin since then

[gusty mirage]

corruption 2.0 but shittier

dom shards in a nutshell

[oak sky]

he on the rise fr

[arctic walrus]

got humbled real quick tonight when I thought I was popping off on tarra then I see a 92

mofuckers on heroin

[oak sky]

i havent done tarra in months bro

always subbed out or on mage lately

[arctic walrus]

sheeq prevails this tier

[oak sky]

next time if externals suck we stay winning

[arctic walrus]

no soulrender/painsmith reclear

[oak sky]

we're doing fate this week

so i can finally get a good log on it

the rest of them i dont care much about anymore the tier is done

[glass tulip]

I just want to raid

[gusty mirage]

Does he really though?

[hollow river]

don't bully me man not cool

[gusty mirage]

The man has to whore more externals than I can even count to to keep up with you

Some people just built diffy

[hollow river]

first tier actually mythic raiding wbu @arctic walrus

[clever kindle]

almost 500 pulls into sylv when your hunter still walks off the edge in p2

[gusty mirage]

[arctic walrus]

With me? I had to play his stupid little game

[tight ginkgo]

This is definitely a real feeling

[gusty mirage]

Yeah and you shattered his entire existence

[arctic walrus]

But he won

[tight ginkgo]

are you me? am i you? who can say

[arctic walrus]

4 points

[gusty mirage]

But at what cost?

He’s the new passassin

[arctic walrus]

A lot of gold for me

[gusty mirage]

Oh shit you right

[arctic walrus]

Passassin into sheeq intoooo oxii?

[spice spire]

Passassin

That’s a name I’ve long forgotten

[gusty mirage]

I’m already farming the gold for it for next tier

@spice spire yo can I get a loan, hurting out here without boosting

[arctic walrus]

Really gonna need to maximize prog logs for the early lock in rank 1s

Oh wait I’m not playing assa LOOOOL fuck this spec bye

[spice spire]

Bruh I’m broke af and wrong server

[spice spire]

Shadow priest main Vel

[arctic walrus]

Don’t remind me of that atrocity

It’s sub tier idk I’m not paying attention

[clever kindle]

[strange python]

wait i didnt have poisons on the entire guardian fight

..

[spice spire]

Yeah..

[strange python]

YEAH well that guardian fight made me tilt off the side of the earth and grief the entire rest of my trial lmao

so ill

lmao

[spice spire]

F.

[balmy condor]

All raid dagger/EoN Comparisons from normal through mythic
https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9fW6rpuNpRW91VPqpMmUEb
Make sure to hover over the item tooltips to check for item levels

TLDR:
Any Heroic dagger > Mythic Sylv offhand

Also Spreadsheet (https://bit.ly/3yX1GQc) is now (3/9) updated with a T28 profile and Trinket comparisons. Please read the #assassination-faq for more info

[hollow river]

you mean i'm gonna replace both of them in like 2 weeks?

yay

[carmine dawn]

Directions unclear, sim blue screened my computer

@balmy condor pls advise

[bleak sky]

Wtb rygelon dagger pm price

[drifting cloud]

are those tooltips wrong?

hc rygelon dagger isnt 259, its 272 right?

[glass tulip]

bis gear leak?

[gusty mirage]

Tree fitty

[balmy condor]

I might've typo'd

what's the levels?

[bleak sky]

Fitty deez nuts in yo ass

[balmy condor]

252 heroic 278 mythic, +7 for end bosses?

[gusty mirage]

Don’t tempt me with a good time

[glass tulip]

yes

[drifting cloud]

no? 😛

[bleak sky]

Isn't 252 normal?

[drifting cloud]

252 should ne normal

[bleak sky]

Mythic 278

+7 for last bosses

[glass tulip]

wait this one is called venth 0P base but it set to NF ??
or am I bad

[balmy condor]

stop

looking

at

the

fucking

names

you

bonobos

[glass tulip]

[tight ginkgo]

show me one fucking sim

[bleak sky]

Heroic 265 I had to pull a fucking calculator

[balmy condor]

okay I fix

[drifting cloud]

either way even with a typo, how the fuck does sylvannas suddenly lose to same ilvl in oh

[bleak sky]

Couldn't add 239+26

[hollow river]

look at the covenant and conduits

[bleak sky]

I'm a bonobo should be playing outlaw

[balmy condor]

I'm just gonna name them all sin

just to force people to open the sim

[bleak sky]

No

[hollow river]

LMAO

[bleak sky]

Show pretty number

Only pretty number, no reading

[balmy condor]

okay so 265 272 278 285?

blizzard pls these numbers are so dogshit

[glass tulip]

[bleak sky]

Yeah

[drifting cloud]

can the ptr simc be bugged whispyr? how can it lose to sylvn dagger in oh at same ilvl

[balmy condor]

because sylv dagger dogshit homie

[drifting cloud]

so is 80 secondaries

[gusty mirage]

Is bonobo a monkey?

[drifting cloud]

can you unironically run stat weight sim

[gusty mirage]

Oh no

Ryler said the forbidden word

[bleak sky]

Can you run 30 second sim 10 target no lust

[drifting cloud]

dont worry its not 7s

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/joaquin-phoenix-gladiator-thumbs-down-gif-13238004

[carmine dawn]

Chimp

[gusty mirage]

Yes my son?

[carmine dawn]

Nope it’s a great ape

Just looked it up

Also endangered

@balmy condor is calling you all precious how sweet

Not me tho I’m not being annoying

[glass tulip]

now, please dont take this the wrong way Jake

but who are you

[carmine dawn]

I’m Jake

[glass tulip]

(I have never seen your rogue and I wanna know who it is, not toxic pls ily)

[carmine dawn]

I’m not good dw

[glass tulip]

doesnt matter

all our homies cool

[oak sky]

hi jake, I'm Andrew

also check dms

[carmine dawn]

checking

[violet island]

If you have 5 people with a 16, you have 10 keys to compete for your weekly vault even if you don’t finish them in time.

[void karma]

good point, thank you

[violet island]

I wrote the guide so figured I’d clarify Lol

[gusty mirage]

We appreciate your work

[oak sky]

that guide had a lot of good stuff put together for people out of the loop

nj

[balmy condor]

@drifting cloud aight here we go im boutta BUST
Image is a breakdown of current t27 sim of sin, with dom/double mythic sylv dagger. 5.7% for both combined. We obviously aren't keeping the mainhand, so that's half the damage gone, half of 5.7 is 2.85%, for each dagger. In DPS that's 677 for 2 daggers, 338 for 1 dagger.

Here's a quick sim from the single dagger https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jqfmfpxSs5Qq3sQWXzLg7L/simc
dagger dps is 317, or 2%. Seems about right, we can compare the CP gen as well. The quick sim has 391.5 cp over the fight, the t27 profile has 392.9 cp over the fight, so very slightly higher, basically equal. Unsurprisingly, the dagger is also very slightly higher

[violet island]

I did one for 9.1 for my guild

[balmy condor]

all the math is checking out

[violet island]

Figured I’d do another one

[glass tulip]

promise the 9.3 guide on onlyfans behind a paywall

[violet island]

Lol

[glass tulip]

9.3

[balmy condor]

https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wGdfovpB76ri6kQuv2eSfr
https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uRcMNja7cVRQnCDoSmw1eC

have some stat weights though

for the fans

Idk what these numbers mean because they're useless

[drifting cloud]

yeah I had a feeling they were gonna be around 4

[glass tulip]

Ryler knows

[drifting cloud]

they are, its just if you disable dom sets at current gear think they dip to 2 or even lower

[balmy condor]

also a useless number though

[drifting cloud]

so if sylv dagger does 300 whatever dps

not that hard to divide that by 90 secondaries or whatever the number on the dagger is

before you care about the 20 dps from agi and the 0.1 dps from oh dps

but thanks, stat weights were enough but you always go the extra distance 😳

[balmy condor]

💅

[drifting cloud]

even with tier and double lego we dont get that insane amount of dps tier from tier

even if you count the disabled dom set

[brazen zodiac]

sup whisp

[drifting cloud]

I guess 60% is on the usual side of things since assa sims pretty much 10k without it

but the hp on some of raid bosses from ptr oh boy

[carmine dawn]

So sin tier till you get 4pc? What are you implying

[drifting cloud]

oh sorry I guess that confusing, tier as in raid tier, not the tier set

[carmine dawn]

Ohhhh

Like secondary bonuses

Since it’s a 3 tier expac we have less secondaries in general also?

[drifting cloud]

yeah but secondaries outside of jewelry barely move with ilvl anyways

[carmine dawn]

Right rogue is too main stat based anyway

Do you play sub every tier ry

[drifting cloud]

lmao no

[carmine dawn]

Makes me optimistic

[drifting cloud]

I havent played sub at all

in sod

last boss I progged as sub was like council in nathria

[carmine dawn]

Makes me feel better committing to outlaw and sin

Did u finish dr.stone yet

[drifting cloud]

ofc

[junior rampart]

Dr.Stone anime is great.

[carmine dawn]

Indubitably

[junior rampart]

But I enjoy reading manga more than anime. It's fascinating to imagine looking at their art.

[jade minnow]

Does doomblade lego work with 4pc vendeta?

[balmy condor]

yes

not that it matters though

because it's a rolling dot like ignite

so you don't lose any damage anyway

[vestal wren]

stat plot soon™️ ?

[balmy condor]

[lusty oar]

Just so I understand the excel, for raid sin is fae dusk Yh?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[empty hinge]

last reset and my prayers are answered

[vestal wren]

gz

[hoary remnant]

wont there be a vault next week? I am confused just because the patch comes

[vestal wren]

you can still get the vault just as usual, i don't think anything changes in that reguard

[placid dawn]

Do I actually have to do the NF campaign to unlock the other soulbinds or is there a way to skip that shit?

[oak sky]

have to do it on one character

then you have it for all

[torn atlas]

Should be two weeks of sanctum vault left right?

[oak sky]

it doesnt take crazy long its a few hours tho

[placid dawn]

fuck man, that sucks. I really dont want to do the campaign

[oak sky]

on the bright side if you ever alt a nf you dont have to do it again

[muted ridge]

gz!

[stable jackal]

so i want to love my rogue, but I've been so squishy, like so squishy my ilvl is low as I'm a fresh 60 but it felt this way while leveling as well... is this the consensus or am I just bad

[violet hemlock]

rogue has a good amnt of defensives but no self healing so u need to be pretty proactive

[oak sky]

rogue isnt squishy in most content we have a lot of tools to stay alive

solo can be rough at low levels though

[timid cloud]

Rogue does not feel good to level up, unless you have Leeching Poison & it never feels good until you are touching actual end-game content.

[stable jackal]

sounds like i'm bad

[timid cloud]

We are very durable.

[stable jackal]

and don't know how to mitigate damage

[torn atlas]

You sort of need to know what to react to though.

[violet hemlock]

I mean if ur using cc and your defensives its fine

[stable jackal]

xD

[timid cloud]

When you’re low geared you feel it, when you start to get a bit more gear you just kill mobs & walk away within CV cooldown.

But if it is getting tough, you should look into switching to Leeching & start using Kidney Shot way more.

[torn atlas]

Are we talking world content?

[stable jackal]

right now yes, i am trying to knock out my covenant quests

[timid cloud]

World & leveling I’m assuming from what was asked.

[torn atlas]

If so, learn to sap a target, blind another, focus what's left without breaking the cc and theb use your stun and kick when necessary on the target your fighting

Understanding when to use your defensive is pretty much mandatory though.

Once you start moving into group content, you should look through the Book of Shadows pinned in general.

[stable jackal]

okay will do!

its just disheartening lol being low ilvl and trying to burn down people its a pain

i'll just focus on learning my defensives

[normal mist]

I was about to recommend you to get some gear from the AH but nevermind, in a few weeks craftable gear will be 230

[orchid blaze]

if Combat gets hook and Sub gets Step what does Sin get?

[charred wraith]

step

sis

[static pier]

sin gets step, sub gets 2 steps

[orchid blaze]

ty

[hollow dirge]

Because why not. Any stealth in sub is a step too, so why the fuck not give them 2 charges on actual shadowstep. Atleast sin has better single target. Oh shit.
Well, sin’s better in pvp. Oh wait. Aoe, that’s what we have.
*Sub goes fok/bp.
Well, there’s that.

[static pier]

all im sayin is

theres a reason i swapped to a sub main

[hollow dirge]

Just one?

[static pier]

yeah - big dam

[agile geode]

for 2 steps?

lol

[cunning needle]

honestly as well you should try play sub for WQ/levelling instead of assi

you can burst down 1 target easier

and then stealth move onto next

• you heal from soothing darkness talent

[jaunty steeple]

does mutilate actually use the off hand, meaning OH ilvl is more important than on the other specs, or is the Sylvanas daggie just relatively weaker due to less combo point gain and spending?

[nocturne geode]

sub scales the blades damage i believe

@jaunty steeple

bc of shadowblades

[jaunty steeple]

think outlaw still prefers Sylv daggie as well though

[nocturne geode]

idk bout that

[jaunty steeple]

was just curious since enhancement also uses the off hand for Lava Lash, which I believe raises the importance of OH ilvl compared to specs that just use main hand for abilities

wondering if Mutilate is similar or not

[nocturne geode]

im not sure on that maybe a good question to as in the 9.2 discussion channel too

[hollow river]

Outlaw definitely keeps sylv dagger

The rest of the expansion afaik

[fading wigeon]

Whisper talks about it in the pins

[jaunty steeple]

yeah was just curious about the exact reason why sin replaces mythic EoN with a heroic one already

[hollow river]

It’s not shadow blades that makes it stronger for sub

It’s deeper daggers conduit that buffs shadow damage

[jaunty steeple]

ye

[hollow river]

And greater cp gen in general

Kyrian plays into it as well

I have a feeling maybe outlaws damage amps affect the dagger proc I could be wrong though

Outlaw has a lot of weird interactions the other two specs don’t have

[jaunty steeple]

outlaw does at the very least have increased built in crit thanks to BtE

you tend to have much higher damage from trinkets etc on outlaw compared to sub at least, probably sin too, I just don't play sin

[hollow river]

Ghostly strikes as well affects a lot of stuff

And Celerity leggo

Those damage amps

[jaunty steeple]

yeah I can't recall exactly what each of them affects

but tru

[hollow river]

They’re just pure damage amps

Ghostly strikes is a debuff you try keep on target, celerity leggo gives % damage to your adrenaline rush CD and let’s you get random AR procs

[jaunty steeple]

I'm well aware of what they are

but I can't recall if they interact with ALL damage you do

[hollow river]

It’s very weird interactions. I don’t remember if they just affect ALL damage or not, but I know they even affect the m+ powers

[jaunty steeple]

ye

[hollow river]

I think that’s why they run ghostly strikes in m+ even if it sims lower in slice 👀

[alpine latch]

Finally got a 252 cloak this GV

[brazen inlet]

have people done anything like whyspers sim spreadsheet for the other two specs ?

[echo geyser]

[hollow river]

[spice spire]

As far as I can see, no.
Whíspyr is a bit of an oddity as he likes to get information out as soon as possible, for referencing trends less so numbers (ie. Prep NF, as it looks great for us next tier!)

But people also tend to look solely at numbers and make decisions before patches drop 😅

All that to say, you’ll see a lot of similar sims soon probably

[deft vault]

So how does the unity belt works exactly can we havr multiple of it?

Like lets say i want one with crit haste for pve and one haste vers for pvp

[jaunty steeple]

after you get the new rep to revered and have unlocked the base Unity belt via campaign, you can recraft it yes

[deft vault]

Neat thanks

[limber yoke]

OK, i was wondering, what is the best covenant for raiding in 9.2 for assassination? Is it time for me to change from nightfae? Dont judge me, I was NF since start of SL 😄

[red plaza]

[hollow river]

You can stay nf if you’re only playing sin 😛

[limber yoke]

Thanks! 😄

Just saw pins 😄

[hollow river]

Venthyr is going to be a bit better for early prog

But once you get your 4 piece and double legendary nf is good

[wide ridge]

funny how i was nf during 9.0 but changed to venthyr/necro/kyrian during 9.1.5 and now back to nf, missed them

[fading adder]

soulshape is just so good and is such a feel good button. i love nf

[alpine latch]

We have what, like 5 weeks before we have to be NF?

We'll be Venth most of early prog

NF doesn't kick in until double leggo and 4pc

[wide ridge]

damn i just saw the pinned sim, thought highest dps would be niya cause of giga mastery buff

guess not

[alpine latch]

Naw, Cev said the other day Crit/Haste is still king for raid

Or more specifically, for ST

[wide ridge]

hmm i see

[alpine latch]

(I added the raid part in my own head, he never said raid)

[plain jetty]

I took a small break here at the end of 9.1.5 and I come back to see that the one covenant I didn’t bother to get to 80 is going to be the bis ass covenant and now I’m malding

[alpine latch]

Well, good news mofo

We're not raiding for another week

And it's not BiS until week 5 at the earliest

You have time...

[hollow river]

Most of early prog lmao

[alpine latch]

Oh wait

You didn't raise Venthyr?

[gusty mirage]

Nah we play dreamweaver triple potency

[alpine latch]

That was BiS even in 9.1

[hollow river]

Gonna take 6 months to get CE baby

[plain jetty]

Ok but that means I have to get renown at all

[gusty mirage]

We’re all nut boys and girls now

[alpine latch]

Hey man, once you get CE

Come carry us

I'll pay you

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

[plain jetty]

[hollow river]

We might sell the first half of the raid

Other than that heroic

[alpine latch]

nice

[spice spire]

As long as it’s same realm it is kosher

[alpine latch]

^

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

I wish we were on the same realm

[alpine latch]

CAT PICS ARE NOT AGAINST THE TOS

[gusty mirage]

So we could erp in goldshire together

[alpine latch]

Oxi, where are you?

[spice spire]

Babe?

[hollow river]

Actually incorrect

[gusty mirage]

Yeah babe?

[alpine latch]

I'm on Illidan as of tomorrow

[spice spire]

Bro it’s extreme raid progression? Hello?

[gusty mirage]

Yeah that’s what I meant

Hello?

[hollow river]

The only thing against TOS is ADVERTISING cross realm

You can have anyone from any realm in your raid carry

[gusty mirage]

And holding gold off server

[hollow river]

Yeah

My guild started selling on their own whenever community’s became tos

[jaunty steeple]

same

[hollow river]

I thought cross realm anything was TOS too

But they showed me where blizzard clarified it was just adverts

[alpine latch]

I'm just excited to be on Horde again, where I can actually pug shit and finish the week's raids that my guild doesn't.

[hollow river]

And gold

[hollow river]

[spice spire]

Oh shit we raiding goldshire? It’s a good thing my warrior is a vulpera

[alpine latch]

I need to get back into my AotC one-shot community since it's character-specific

[hollow river]

[jaunty steeple]

think it's specifically that the advertiser must be partaking in the boost, which obviously wouldn't be the thing if someone is advertising on another realm with a level 10 char

[alpine latch]

That was great for when my guild didn't have AotC yet

[hollow river]

Yeah that also

[jaunty steeple]

and the realm thing

[spice spire]

Umm clears throat H-h-hi. I was told to message you if I needed a guild invite! pounces on you and curls up in your lap as you can see I’m a Vulpera in and out of the game. looks away nervously I was wondering if um....you would like to show me around Azeroth sometime. W-we could licks paws RP and maybe even get a little kinky wicked but alluring smile

[jaunty steeple]

is the guild on X realm is boosting, dude on Y realm advertising isn't kosher

[hollow river]

[spice spire]

Bro I just want to raid prog

Come on dude

[carmine dawn]

/invite

[spice spire]

You forgot to add a g there, G

[glass tulip]

/invitge

[spice spire]

Ty

[hollow river]

[brazen zodiac]

good morning everyone

[spice spire]

GM

[brazen zodiac]

want some of my mac n cheese it has cayenne in it

[glass tulip]

yes

[brazen zodiac]

its so spicy

[prime robin]

bad question prob. will the Sylv dagger still be BIS for assination in offhand as well. or is this only effecting sub and outlaw?

[glass tulip]

[prime robin]

sorry but it was in the 2nd channel for sub pins and its in this main channel pins herwe... so I didnt check here... that not intuitive

[gusty mirage]

[gusty mirage]

People who aren’t part of the active thread don’t check it, so to me it seemed kind of unintuitive to put a FAQ in a less visible spot

Aka yell at @vestal wren

Wait they have the faq in the main channel too

[vestal wren]

what did i do?

oh, ye subtlety has most information in the #916284169057878037 channel

[gusty mirage]

Idk anymore

Sorry for tagging you good sir

[vestal wren]

all fine ^^

[carmine dawn]

You know what you did

[gusty mirage]

Listen here Jake from State Farm

Don’t bully fuu

[carmine dawn]

Oh I didn’t realize oxi was anti vibecheck

Excuuuuse me

[vestal wren]

i know, i secretly try to convince people to play subtlety due to superior double cream cookies

[gusty mirage]

I FORGOT ABOUT VIBECHECK

[arctic walrus]

Vibe check

[glass tulip]

[alpine latch]

We're going Horde tonight after work.

That's my vibe

[spice spire]

[pliant nest]

on sylvanas mythic p2 i use vendetta in the burn phases right?

[spice spire]

Yes

[glass tulip]

depends on what your raid needs but generally, yeah

[spice spire]

Is where “ideal” would be

But if your raid needs elsewhere, go there.
But for your damage, burn phases goated

[pliant nest]

k thanks

[covert folio]

If we don’t have obedience crafted should I wait till 9.2 to get it for free?

[spice spire]

You can if you’d like
It’s good for dungeons, but if you’re not into it, no need to worry anyway

[covert folio]

I’m lvl 58 been working on this guy to swap for 9.2 but have been on vacation so I’ll finish lvling and gear as much as I can before Tuesday for a free leggo hahah

[brazen zodiac]

[gusty mirage]

If you won’t be doing mythic prog for a while you can wait for unity instead of crafting obedience

It’ll be out when? Week 3 of mythic?

[covert folio]

Ok cool!

[spice spire]

Yeah week 3

[gusty mirage]

Yeah not worth dropping 40k+ gold for something you’re for sure going to scrap in a month IMO

[spice spire]

Depending on how my guild divides set pieces, I may roll a 262 until I get the 4p since that’s an auto swap

[gusty mirage]

I already got all the important ones at 262 because I’m a nerd

I think I have a 262 doomblade cloak somewhere too

[spice spire]

I do too.
The holy trinity of cloaks

[gusty mirage]

Oh wait it’s 235

[covert folio]

What 2 leggos we think we going?

[gusty mirage]

It’s in the pins, but when we get 4pc duskwalkers on ring and unity on wrist

[spice spire]

Duskwalker’s (once you get 4p) and whatever covenant.

[gusty mirage]

We put together a cheat sheet for 9.2 kinda

[covert folio]

Oh ok cool!!!

[spice spire]

But yeah it’s in the pins. The homies are great here

[covert folio]

Awesome! Iv been debating between sub and Assad

[gusty mirage]

Make sure you thank @balmy condor and @fleet anchor for their hard work

[covert folio]

Assassin

[gusty mirage]

[covert folio]

Assas is more single target yes?

[spice spire]

Both are solid picks (or look to be) next tier

Both are good ST, sin is better cleave, sub does better aoe.

Iirc sub ST is a bit higher, isn’t it?

[gusty mirage]

Sub’s looking stronger iirc

[gusty mirage]

Where’s outlaw?

Oh yeah still capped, stay mad nerds

[spice spire]

Real

I’m sure outlaw will be fine.
Feels their tier kinda got borked compared to the other two, but they aren’t borrowed power hos like we are

[wanton creek]

So venthyr and duskwalkers are looking a solid bet for early prog?

[spice spire]

No

Duskwalkers is only good once you get the 4 piece

If you get it, yes!
But until then it’s not very good or not as good as the other options

[echo geyser]

what u gonna play before then?

dashing? doomblade?

[bleak sky]

obedience as venthyr

[echo geyser]

obedience?

[spice spire]

For venthyr? Iirc it’s obedience

[bleak sky]

Legendary Choices with 1 Legendary and no 4pc:
Venthyr: Obedience
Night Fae/Necrolord: Doomblade
Kyrian: Dashing Scoundrel
Slot Suggestions: Obedience/Doomblade/Dashing Scoundrel(Back)

[spice spire]

Or Doomblade

Wait Kyrian is DS

That’s strange to me

[echo geyser]

kyrian sin gonna have secret apl gains 9.2

[bleak sky]

I need to craft a doomblade again

[echo geyser]

whispyr is gonna have to do some sim work

[spice spire]

LBE and Kyrian gains are behind his paywall

Subscribe to his OF today!

[deft vault]

We want haste from so leah trinket right?

[echo geyser]

probably depends on ur current gear i suppose

[hollow river]

Pretty sure there’s a way to sim that at the bottom of top gear

[spice spire]

Idk if you can since it’s based on your current stats, isn’t it?

[balmy condor]

You can make a high haste gear set, use the trinket, and then change to your normal gear

[spice spire]

Yeah I guess you could just alter gear to fit it

[jaunty steeple]

isn't Soleah just your choice

you slap it on an ally

yoink their highest stat

I mean they would be the one to swap gear

[balmy condor]

Idk I thought it uses your stats not your friends

I’ve never played with it

[deft vault]

yeah its not based on your gear

[spice spire]

Oh so there could be a line

[jaunty steeple]

yeah I had and used it early patch a bit

and there is a slot to choose the stat on it on raidbots

[echo geyser]

its based on the target u put it on

[spice spire]

Oh so you don’t have to do some line nonsense

Sick

[jaunty steeple]

it's a solid stat stick

just lacked ilvl this patch

[spice spire]

Literally never used it

Yeah

[jaunty steeple]

I imagine it's good in 9.2

[echo geyser]

💀 +15 tazavesh farm

[spice spire]

It’s in his t28 profile

[jaunty steeple]

to specify, I mean in general, not sin specifically

[spice spire]

Apparently tazavesh part 2 starts on the Murloc area ?

[spice spire]

Ahhhh makes more sense 😛

[hollow river]

[glass tulip]

theres a nice WA for the color room at least

[oak sky]

so do all the raid trinkets suck then

[glass tulip]

for the most part, yeah

theres one cool jailer one

[spice spire]

Iirc we don’t know what it does on use though

Or do we

[balmy condor]

80% of this is because literally none of the raid trinkets actually work

[spice spire]

Oh sick

[glass tulip]

it throws a spike into mob, absorbs damage then you run away and it explodes damage in aoe

[spice spire]

I imagine it’ll still be a top 5 trinket though

[balmy condor]

It’s pretty good yeah

[spice spire]

Unless nerfed sack is somehow still ridiculous, which it didn’t seem

[balmy condor]

But legion timewalking soon

[spice spire]

Oh no

[balmy condor]

And raid trinkets tuning

So

Trinkets still giga volatile in sims

[spice spire]

It’s a crapshoot

[glass tulip]

I think its over my spring break, so guess who is sitting inside instead of going to the beach

[balmy condor]

Don’t slurp the soleah juice too hard

[spice spire]

But he’s hot wdym

[balmy condor]

It’s just a stat stick

Meant to do stat stick things

For the sim number

[spice spire]

[oak sky]

countermeasure again Smoge

[glass tulip]

maybe we will get lucky this time and not take 40 each

[hollow river]

Gives us stats

Kiss curse style

Every 30s

[oak sky]

i mean i got countermeasure 2nd run

[spice spire]

Gonna be gooning 2s for a bit

[oak sky]

then i got roped into doing 15 more to funnel @kind talon

[hollow river]

You

You are toxic

[spice spire]

Bro

[glass tulip]

toxic

[spice spire]

I deadass did 42 and got funneled it

[oak sky]

the ring took me a lot

[glass tulip]

I had to suck a dick for both items

[hollow river]

Lmfao

[oak sky]

i missed getting the ring traded by roll 2 times in a row

that was fun

i think a bm hunter got one of them

[limber lion]

Just one?

[spice spire]

[limber lion]

Lucky.

Or unlucky?

[glass tulip]

unlucky, I couldve fit another in

[alpine latch]

You hate to see that...

[spice spire]

[glass tulip]

unfortunately I am a strict non-wow gamer until the patch hits

[spice spire]

This is alt time

[glass tulip]

my alt is ready

[oak sky]

true

[glass tulip]

chillin at 241 / 80 renown

[spice spire]

We jaithys hunting rn

[bleak sky]

jaithys doesn't exist

[hollow river]

We haven’t seen a jaithys since one warrior got it and left the guild after being benched once to try diff sylv comp

[glass tulip]

our ret pal pulled one two weeks in a row

[hollow river]

From vault?

[glass tulip]

off the boss

[alpine latch]

Our Ret pally bought an AotC carry and got one

And then the next week became a tank

And hasn't used it since

lol

[spice spire]

[pulsar sable]

so how is it looking currently, is ass viable or is sub/outlaw waay better next tier?

[spice spire]

All 3 look viable

Also depends on definition of viability.
HoF? Different viability than standard CE guilds

[glass tulip]

outlaw way better

[dawn ivy]

nah theyre all still viable for HoF

[grim tangle]

especially alliance HoF

[glass tulip]

Rwf different viability

[dawn ivy]

hell rogue might not even be good for RWF viability who fuckin knows when margins are that razor thin

"oops feral druids do 5% more than anyone, guess we run 5 ferals"

[spice spire]

Well that was my point. Relatively, they seem to all be playable.
But the difference In a few hundred dps does matter in RWF in particular. And some HoF

[alpine latch]

Rogues probably won't be in RWF 😦

[spice spire]

I don’t know too much about outlaw next tier, ngl. Haven’t even looked its way

[dawn ivy]

it looks decent ngl

[alpine latch]

To be fair, we rarely are

[grim tangle]

jpc getting world first for sure

[dawn ivy]

outlaw genuinely looks better than sin right now

[spice spire]

Good for them, unironically

[alpine latch]

Has JPC been in many RWF kills?

Serious question

[oak sky]

0

[dawn ivy]

not really

[spice spire]

Sim seems middle from@m what I’ve seen, tbf

[alpine latch]

I don't remember him being there for any, lol

[carmine dawn]

Jpc wasn’t in liquid till after last race

[alpine latch]

TBF I couldn't even name a single rogue in Liquid

[dawn ivy]

he was in FPKTB last tier so he was still world 15 or 16 which is still huge

[alpine latch]

I don't think I've ever seen them play

[oak sky]

thats because they didnt really have a main rogue dude

[alpine latch]

Oh?

I mean that would explain it, yeah

[dawn ivy]

nah they do, their rogues just flex off things

[carmine dawn]

Mayyyybe atrocity would play rogue

[oak sky]

aren't all their other rogues mains of other classes

[dawn ivy]

trill plays rogue to insane level, jpc, and then someone whos name startys with S that im blanking on and i feel bad about

[oak sky]

like I'm sure theyre very competent on rogue but having someone dedicated to knowing the 3 rogue specs can be more valuable

[carmine dawn]

Rogue doesn’t have raid utility

It’s not

[oak sky]

?

you need someone for every class on the off chance its tuned well

[dawn ivy]

i mean what agreon said is still valid haha

[spice spire]

They definitely have rogues but yeah, no raid utility means they have to do bonkers damage to be viable in rwf

[dawn ivy]

ofc but thats not what agreon said lol

[carmine dawn]

The only reason hunter is picked without raid utility is because they’re usually overtuned, range, insane burst, and an immunity

[spice spire]

Dedicated rogue, sure.

[dawn ivy]

thats a hot take

[carmine dawn]

I’m saying rogue and hunter are in the same boat but why pick a melee over range if they’re similar dps

[oak sky]

like isnt impec an enhance main but he didnt really get to play it much in past tiers

[azure carbon]

They do usually have utility though.

60s immunity and usually big AoE burst.

[oak sky]

or at least an enhance player

[carmine dawn]

Raid utility =/= utility

[dawn ivy]

IMPEC

thats their giga rogue

and exile

[oak sky]

but yeah like i was saying from what i remember he actually is a big enhance player

[dawn ivy]

those were their main main rogues before jpc

[oak sky]

so even if hes a good rogue hes not like super dedicated to it

at least not quite as much as someone else

[dawn ivy]

yeah he dropped for enhance this expac i think just to be the wf bot

nah impec was THE rogue

[oak sky]

the big guy

[dawn ivy]

for them for awhile

im confident he'd be able to swing rogue real quick if needed

[oak sky]

i bet ur right

[dawn ivy]

but WF is still huge so maybe 10.0

[carmine dawn]

He’ll probably be allowed to play rogue, the only reason rogues weren’t in last race was because most didn’t get full unholy set

[oak sky]

tbh these guys are all just giga multiclassers anyway

they would be sick on anything

but theres something to be said about being on the class you have the most comfort on if possible

[carmine dawn]

He has 3 rogues, 1 war, 1 enhance for race. Food for thought

[oak sky]

yeah fair enough

you mean for next tier

?

[carmine dawn]

He clearly wants to play rogue if he can

Yeah

[oak sky]

enhance seems guaranteed at this stage

[alpine latch]

We just lost our Enhancement shaman

So I gotta find us a new one

[carmine dawn]

They might run double enhance yeah

[oak sky]

i thought i saw impec on 2 different enhancers in random raids

but that doesnt really matter

[carmine dawn]

But that’s strats they don’t share

[oak sky]

this conversation is parasocial af i feel dirty

[carmine dawn]

All you can do is watch streams and see what people are getting ready

[oak sky]

hmmm he definitely has 2 enhance shamans

at least

[dawn ivy]

I find it hard to believe theyd run double windfury

[oak sky]

same but if enhance is the best damage they for sure will

[dawn ivy]

oh enhance is getting nerfed dw lmao

[woeful oak]

heya guys, how is assination looking in 9.2? they always seemed cool and idk if its worth making an alt assa

[dawn ivy]

its dec

[oak sky]

nerfed isnt the same as no longer best damage

[dawn ivy]

all three specs look good

[woeful oak]

cool! thx

[glass tulip]

Perfecto is listed as active roster again for echo

[alpine latch]

Sure, but listed and in for a kill aren't the same thing

[glass tulip]

Inb4 he gets no set bonus and gets benched again

[alpine latch]

One of the Asian guilds (Chinese maybe) had a Rogue in for some of their kills

[kindred rapids]

Got a 0% execution rank for sylvanas last night https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/X8krnwD6tgY4zKB7#fight=10&view=rankings&playermetriccompare=rankings

[alpine latch]

Aster or something?

[kindred rapids]

that's good right?

went like 40 seconds past enrage

waiting for spell queueing

[alpine latch]

niiiice

working as intended

[glass tulip]

0% execution lol

Impressive, I must admit

[kindred rapids]

haha, I'm just amazed anyone did worse

[glass tulip]

3 raids did, somehow

[kindred rapids]

lowest had like 27 deaths, rofl

[bleak sky]

22 deaths

[loud light]

execution rank is based first on deaths and then sorted by damage taken after, so it's just how many deaths you can rack up and still kill the boss

[bleak sky]

[kindred rapids]

ah

[cerulean nest]

whats the word of the day boys

[kindred rapids]

yeah we still got a long way to go if we want to contend for the most deaths

[glass tulip]

No more rep required for 278 conduits

[loud light]

need more ankhing shamans to get those free deaths

[kindred rapids]

yeah

need to start abusing the fatescribe trinket too

[hollow river]

What about the other bullshit requirements lol

[oak sky]

"bullshit"

what

you mean ce or ksh or glad

[cerulean nest]

how we feeling about those new sims?

[spice spire]

KSH seems fair for most people tbh

Fine

[cerulean nest]

sick

[bleak sky]

ksh?

[subtle kettle]

Key stone hero

3k io next season

[cerulean nest]

is that all timed 20s?

basically

[bleak sky]

oh yeah

[subtle kettle]

Bassicly 20s Ye

[nimble thicket]

Respect the rep drop for Alt action but honestly revered rep is kinda organic. 20s will be like 90% of how people get them with tier sets and double leggos

20s the real new 15s

[peak bobcat]

only Ksp

[coral pond]

Is NF looking decent for sin? Legit asking for a friend lol

[radiant gale]

I'm not the friend but I am curious too

[carmine dawn]

Pins

[coral pond]

Got it ty

[sullen garden]

Hi Rogues, I'm an OL Rogue who wants to have a Sin leggo for raid in 9.2. What Sin leggo should I craft before 9.2 and in what slot / missives?

[carmine dawn]

What cov do you play on outlaw and do you raid

[bleak sky]

[brazen zodiac]

[wanton creek]

Any idea how quickly tier is likely to be acquired or is not clear?

[bleak sky]

boss has 4 guaranteed loots, 2 of them being tier pieces

you can do the math based on your group

[wanton creek]

Was there not something about tier being separate from normal table

[bleak sky]

yes but that was changed

[viscid spear]

Math was my worst subject in school

[wanton creek]

Ah that’s what I meant

Months then lol

[oak sky]

It wasnt changed it was just dropping twice as much

Oh wait

Im dumb

True

[ashen scroll]

Do you apply rupture on your during shiv window if its going to fall of? or do you want to pre-apply rupture so that doesn't happen

[red plaza]

If it’s going to fall off during shiv, you reapply…..but you want to preplan so that you don’t have to rupture during a shiv window

[carmine dawn]

It’s fine to reapply mid shiv

Some people claim you at least 2 envenoms during shiv, some people claim you never reapply before pandemic

At the end of the day they both don’t actually make a huge difference

If you’re in p3 sylv and you’re about to double spread then yeah, reapply bleeds before pandemic

[ashen scroll]

i play outlaw sub and going cba sin practice for this last week of raid lmao

gotta learn it at some point

[carmine dawn]

Sin is suuuuuper ez compare to them both

[ashen scroll]

sub feels braindead but its probably because im used to it

[carmine dawn]

Here’s the true secret: keep everything on cooldown

Oh you forgot to pool energy before shiv and don’t think you’ll get two envenoms? Whatever

Vendetta is coming off cooldown in 5, but shiv has 25 seconds? Send it whatever

[oak sky]

You never let bleeds drop thats like number 1 priority

[carmine dawn]

If rupture and garrote never fall off the target, you’re playing at like 80% efficiency

[alpine latch]

We have to hit SnD way too much for my liking.

[oak sky]

🤔

[carmine dawn]

Sir this is #assassination

[alpine latch]

Lol

[red plaza]

[honest onyx]

Hello, what is best lego for assa in pvp (arenas specifically) ?

[alpine latch]

Every now and then there’s a fight I have to cast it more than once and quite frankly that’s unacceptable.

[carmine dawn]

I once had a nightmare I had to refresh snd

Woke up in a cold sweat

[red plaza]

True. Sylv you have to press it like 4 times to maintain alacrity

[carmine dawn]

There’s a secret for alacrity for p3

Go into the stun with max cp, step, and 5stacks

As soon as you’re teleported you can step and rupture

Keep 5 stacks going in

[red plaza]

Oh that ones fine, just send an envenom on an add before going in. It’s the p1 intermission > p2 platform

[carmine dawn]

Only way to keep Alac there is kyrian bug

You dirty abuser

Jk

[red plaza]

Nono chasing Sylv with MFD and throw dagger during rives is the sweaty play

[ashen scroll]

is it ok to send vend a bit early and let shiv clip the end of it? like all of shiv would be in vend, just not the start

[carmine dawn]

That’s correct yes

Sending everything on CD implies vend and shiv fall out of sync

But vend is long enough where you’ll always get a shiv in there at some point

[limber lion]

Not necessarily

You want to hold Shiv for 0-12 seconds if Vendetta is coming off cooldown

[carmine dawn]

[limber lion]

To ensure you get the full 9s of it inside Vendetta.

[carmine dawn]

Thanks cev

[limber lion]

Also some fights are not designed in a way where sending is efficient

And gladly next tier we will not be sending anymore

Send-meta is dead when we get the 4p

[carmine dawn]

Outlaw mains like me quaking

[limber lion]

Outlaw sims around 1.5k less than sub/sin

Good times

[carmine dawn]

Lmao Kevin face

[red plaza]

But all the WWs quit, so you can blow up adds now 🙂

[limber lion]

#sub and #sin gonna be the retirement homes for the pirate boys

[spice spire]

Good, good

[subtle iron]

I can't seem to make my shadowstep mouseover macro work. It works when I mouseover the character, but not the party/raid frame. Any help?

[spice spire]

Our stonks are rising mister ceverion

[red plaza]

Is it bound to a mouse key changeme?

[subtle iron]

No

Yes

No

Yes it is

Sorry

[red plaza]

I don’t know what it is, but for some reason mouse buttons like (button 4, middle mouse,etc.) don’t work for mouseover macros for me.

Try a keyboard button and see if it works. I couldn’t be bothered finding a fix, so I just kept it on the keyboard 😂

[umbral rapids]

nooo please

[muted ivy]

ME

[winter vapor]

is MFD going to remain the play for 9.2 until 2/4 piece etc?

assuming venthyr

[violet hemlock]

wasnt it also gaining value due to frost set.

[winter vapor]

and sylv dagger

[hollow river]

We’re playing NF ep+deeper once we have gear

[violet hemlock]

ye but before is what hes asking

for first few weeks of prog

[hollow river]

At the beginning of prog, with obedience I’d imagine we use mfd

Sim yourself

Without dom shards on at all

[violet hemlock]

mine still recomends mfd

90 dps over vigor

[hollow river]

[violet hemlock]

and thats having like not haste

[limber lion]

Yes, we play Venthyr with MFD.

[violet hemlock]

its legit asking me to regem and reench all haste

[hollow river]

I mean we’re way too crit heavy atm

For no frost set

[violet hemlock]

ye

my gear was like 45 or smth

[hollow river]

Fosho fosho

[winter vapor]

ty 🙂

[violet hemlock]

like 13% haste big!

[hollow river]

👀

[violet hemlock]

ye I have to wait ages for the first garrote it feels shit

[hollow river]

I think I’m working with like 42crit-18haste atm

I’m like 3 pieces from bis

[violet hemlock]

I have no mythic gear cause raid team stopped raiding 3 weeks in then restarted 2 weeks ago

😦

[hollow river]

[viscid spear]

#puglyfe?

[violet hemlock]

fuck that

I already pug keys

pugging raid sounds awful

[ashen scroll]

ive noticed some people do flag-shiv-rupture-vanish instead of flag-rupture-shiv-vanish, is one more correct over the other? or is it just preference

[viscid spear]

know true despair

[violet hemlock]

shiving before rupture doesnt make much sense

[ashen scroll]

i didnt think so but ive seen it more than once in top logs, so i thought i'd ask

[violet hemlock]

unless that gets u an extra second of shiuv uptime throughout the fight but that would be really dumb to optimize for

[prime robin]

I mean top logs also have like 20 PIs 😂

[violet hemlock]

ye they def dont play perfect

probs play more off muscle memory

[ashen scroll]

true but Pi shouldnt change opener much. ive seen a lot of MFD prepull stuff which makes it weird but eh cba

[violet hemlock]

and like thats how they are used to it

[violet hemlock]

tbf only made a sin set like 2 weeks ago started the tier for those first 3 weeks as sub cause before the frost set change it was kinda the go to

[hollow river]

PI and KA allow for a vast amount of mistakes in rotation and gameplay and still get you high rankings

[ashen scroll]

KA can suck my nuts, wish it didnt exist

[violet hemlock]

it wont next tier

[viscid spear]

t. never gets it

I don't either so

[radiant gale]

Would it be wise to make a 262 Dusk leggo now in prep for 9.2?

[hollow river]

you give people too much credit sir

[viscid spear]

Nopoe

[radiant gale]

Good enough for me

[viscid spear]

Dusk is only good once you get the 4pc

And as NF

Stick with Obedience/Venthyr until then

[violet hemlock]

I thought as all its gonna be best

with 4pc not just nf

[radiant gale]

Ope. I run Dash/Ven atm

Not that it's the biggest issue or anything. At least to me

[viscid spear]

Dashing is pretty much non-existent without the Shards

[radiant gale]

Fuhhh

[violet hemlock]

isnt it still best with kyr

which is a joke in and of itself

[viscid spear]

Kyrian Sin?

[violet hemlock]

well just based on whyspers sims

he has dashing as the kyr leggo

[viscid spear]

That's pretty much not a real thing

[radiant gale]

So in your opinion, should I make an Obedience until later in 9.2 with 4pc/2leggo

[violet hemlock]

that or doom if u wanna play necro

cause venth and necro both gonna be good to start

[radiant gale]

Haven't played Necro at all

[peak wasp]

dont bother making shit, everyone go sub

[viscid spear]

Depends on how fast you expect to get the 4pc
Realistically you want something to hold you over and still be relevant until then

So Obed and Doom will suffice but don't sell the farm to make it

[radiant gale]

I don't like sub. More of a do--oh the spec

[honest onyx]

necro btw

[radiant gale]

Still same answer

[peak wasp]

if u dont raid i guess dont go sub

lol

[radiant gale]

I do but not a fan of it

[honest onyx]

anyone?

[spice spire]

#pvp would have the better answer

[honest onyx]

ok

[spice spire]

This is the assassination channel, but go off, I guess.

Sub also better in keys so

[bleak sky]

[spice spire]

Mister minalba toxic now.
He’s been corrupted

[bleak sky]

sin is dead anyway we can delete this channel

delete outlaw too

[bleak sky]

this image cracks me up

[spice spire]

Yeah, he’s a funny guy. The pure comedy of it is that it’s way more usable than I thought it would be

[kind talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/943646524779430010/IMG_2619.png

saving this

[viscid spear]

I'm a man, when are you deleting Subtlety?

[bleak sky]

saving this

[grizzled jay]

Imagine not going Kyrian + Nightstalker memes

[strange python]

saving this

[kind talon]

saving this

[jaunty steeple]

wait I'm dumb

[subtle tundra]

save deez

man patch is on the 22nd and i dont have nf/kyrian renown, like at all