#assassination

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strange python
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Clout gang

oak sky
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oh

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maybe it was them

bleak sky
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@ yazlr and ask them

strange python
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Regardless. I think half the guild got banned and tettles still gets hired by blizzard for casting.

oak sky
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its probably different now minalba

bleak sky
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is HC still toxic

oak sky
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ask

strange python
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Esrafil went there right?

oak sky
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guy

viscid spear
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Did a HoA, tanked asked if I could charm 3 gargoyles at once

strange python
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Or was that xd

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Guy is kinda toxic soooo

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_>

bleak sky
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I mean like gamer toxic

oak sky
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esra xd

strange python
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Oh

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Who's elusives rogue now??

bleak sky
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agreon

oak sky
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nope

bleak sky
oak sky
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not me

strange python
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You don't wanna raid 43 hours to miss HoF?

oak sky
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i think elusive isnt somewhere you want to be

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ye

slow marsh
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Yikes

strange python
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They're REALLY salty about it

hollow river
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Nice they changed the rep rates

slow marsh
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Our guild is going 4 days for the first two weeks then regular 3 day 9 hour

hollow river
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Can get revered by week 5 easily

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No rares needed

strange python
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We're doing 12 hours for all prog :/ gut feeling says HoF will only bee 3-5 weeks though

bleak sky
strange python
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Guess it depends on last two

oak sky
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last 3

strange python
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Anduin doesn't seem too bad

oak sky
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bruh

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theres 3

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endbosses

slow marsh
oak sky
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ryg and malg

strange python
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Rygelon and jailer?

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Ugh

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Rip

slow marsh
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It's chill for me. It'll give me a taste for if I want to push higher or not

bleak sky
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fair

oak sky
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rygelon council of dread jailer

strange python
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I've done zero thinking about the actual raid tbh.

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Laziest HoF raider

oak sky
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how do i know this

slow marsh
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It's pretty chill for rogue tbh

bleak sky
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I don't want to sound like an asshole but you can prob do better than your current ranking if you're gonna raid 4/week anyway right

strange python
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Benefit of having no utility: I just have to show up and not due

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Die

hollow river
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“I just hit boss not die ok?”

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“Ok”

strange python
oak sky
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how did you not know there were 3 endbosses though

bleak sky
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iceblades

oak sky
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he means ice

slow marsh
oak sky
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my WR is ass

brazen zodiac
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hi guys

strange python
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Ag and ice look the same to me.

oak sky
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i can definitely do better

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it is known

slow marsh
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Tbh the interview and denial because of no bfa xp tilted me

strange python
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With who?

oak sky
bleak sky
slow marsh
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Uhhhh that one ally guild on icecrown

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The boomer guild

strange python
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VINDICATUM

slow marsh
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Yeah

oak sky
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my interview yesterday deadass asked me how i thought I could make up for my lack of raid xp

strange python
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They denied my trial because I couldn't name the actual spell of the shadhar ball

oak sky
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what a great question

strange python
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"bruh he spits" "what's it called?"

pearl ingot
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!

oak sky
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because it shows that they actually are willing to take a newer player

bleak sky
slow marsh
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Pretty much

strange python
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Isn't Vind like us50?

slow marsh
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Yeah

strange python
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Good, but not enough for that

slow marsh
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I was willing to go Ally for it cuz schedule is nice too but ye after that I was like maybe I dodged a bullet afterall

strange python
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Hah

oak sky
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good thing ally is viable in 10.0

strange python
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Isn't guild hunting as a rogue fun?

oak sky
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no

slow marsh
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It sucks

strange python
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Lolol

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Every good guild seems to have had their core rogue for years

slow marsh
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That's why I stopped at wr 400 and was like I guess this is fine coming from 2200

pearl ingot
oak sky
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im hoping i get a trial with the guys i talked to yesterday

weary marten
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what's best covenant build for NF ? Niya 3 potency, 2 potency burrs or dreamweaver ?

ocean breach
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I knows it’s sort of off topic, but what would you say is the best and worst spec to guild hunt on?

slow marsh
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It's ok my next guild will be off a rec copium

strange python
oak sky
strange python
hollow river
limber lion
ocean breach
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I was asking more generally. Just curious

oak sky
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overall

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mage or warlock

weary marten
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thanks !

oak sky
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not even close

strange python
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Yeah for rogue most guilds expect you can play all 3

slow marsh
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I was gonna say druid

oak sky
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after that probably warrior

strange python
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Boomie too

slow marsh
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War is easy but it's melee

hollow river
strange python
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People always want boomies

oak sky
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you cant play 0 melee and you need a warrior

strange python
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Warlock is the only meta-proof class though.

slow marsh
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Boomies never have issues and when they do you just go resto

hollow river
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Oh we meant classes?

strange python
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You can blue parse and get dragged to CE as a warlock

limber lion
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Mage and Warlock are definitely the most sought after classes and it's not even close.

oak sky
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bro

weary marten
hollow river
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Good ww’s can be hard to come by

ocean breach
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I could have worded that better. Yeah I was just curious on the perspective of which toons were most/least wanted from a guild hunt stand point.

strange python
slow marsh
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Yeah but you don't need wws

limber lion
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Boomie is sought after, but it's only one spec. Mage and Warlock rock 3 specs.

oak sky
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you can have 98 avg in logs as rogue and people will criticize your gameplay and kick you from their guild disc

limber lion
oak sky
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i speak from experience kekw

weary marten
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thanks for your answers

limber lion
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:)

slow marsh
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You have to have such better logs than possible to replace rogues in guilds

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For some reason people just keep ok rogues around I find

strange python
oak sky
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not to mention healthstones

hollow river
oak sky
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i hope not

hollow river
oak sky
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rather she stay stagnant in that guild and i go high hof

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and never /spit

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just be better

hollow river
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Always /spit

strange python
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Guilds keep their rogues forever, but I also feel like most of the rogues on top 75 US guilds are good. Partly because it's so easy to find resources to fix your play if it's bad.

slow marsh
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Rogues seem to just chill around 1k-500 then all of a sudden jump to top 100 I feel

oak sky
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hi

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🙂

strange python
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The amount of information available to fix your play is immense.

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Compared to other classes

slow marsh
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Yeah true but also that's why it's weird why guilds keep meh rogues around

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Like nobody knows rogues except rogues I feel

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And even rogues that aren't in here don't know wtf they're talking about

strange python
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Truth

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The non rogues in my guild think that the play is just "press cooldowns and keep rupture up"

hollow river
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Long time relationships and stuff plays a big part

oak sky
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some rogues that are in here dont know wtf theyre talking about

strange python
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Like bitch you play hunter

hollow river
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If you’re friends with your rogue you’ll keep em forever 🙂

oak sky
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i wish that was true but idk if my guild is gonna keep me forever

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i have too much sigma drive

hollow river
oak sky
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😈

slim jay
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Just keep up dots 4hed

strange python
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Hearing the hunters and mages tell me my class is easy is hilarious

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I mean...sin is p easy. But from them?

slim jay
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Mutilate envenom mutilate envenom

oak sky
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frost mages spamming frostbolt and ice lance for an entire fight

slow marsh
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People also think sin is just keep bleeds up and gg

oak sky
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they cry when their cd has 30s of downtime on ptr for 1 day

slow marsh
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As if our bleeds do damage

oak sky
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actual hero class

strange python
slow marsh
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Yeah it's weird cuz I say all the time that yes, on paper sin is simplistic but at the same time there is some nuance to it

oak sky
viscid spear
hollow river
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but do you remember every single GCD you do on sylvanas?

oak sky
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yes

hollow river
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same

oak sky
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ive done sylvanas 300 times

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of course i know every gcd

hollow river
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550 here

strange python
hollow river
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lololo

strange python
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I did sire 830 times before a kill.

oak sky
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lol what

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mustve been big int

strange python
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Three guilds died on it.

hollow river
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ouch man

strange python
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Reprogged every week

slow marsh
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My old one almost did

oak sky
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i did sylv with one guild and a lot of roster issues but we did pretty well honestly

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around 250 pulls total i think

strange python
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Sry two guilds died, so I was part of three teams.

slow marsh
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I joined halfway through prog and people still couldn't do night hunters in p1

strange python
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Same thing

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Wanna hear something great?

slow marsh
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We literally killed sire the last pull. tank said I'm done, this is the last pull then I'm done, and somehow that was the one

hollow river
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Sire wasn't a 15 minute encounter?

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that's pretty great

slow marsh
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Bro sire seems so short compared to sylv right

oak sky
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it was 10 right

strange python
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I got turned down from a us250 guild because I had no logs from 9.0 (because I was a lock...had 99%s in all of bfa). They just finished fatescribe at 490 pulls.

hollow river
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yeah something like that ag

slow marsh
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But at the time wiping on sire p3 felt like a long time

hollow river
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they managed 4/10 this tier

strange python
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Kekw

hollow river
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and i got my first CE

oak sky
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classic

hollow river
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😈

strange python
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I sold a mythic boost to the GM that denied me

oak sky
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thats alpha

hollow river
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

oak sky
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i need that in my life

strange python
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He didn't know I was in the guild but still

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Until we started

hollow river
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that's kinda hot dude

oak sky
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thats such a good feeling

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see

hollow river
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woah

brazen zodiac
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sup trickz

oak sky
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who needs /spit

hollow river
hollow river
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waiting for heroic sale to start

strange python
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I want a /spit NFT

hollow river
strange python
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Is that how NFTs work?

brazen zodiac
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waitin to kill sylv

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TONIGHT

hollow river
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pog

strange python
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Get that dagger!

hollow river
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glgl

brazen zodiac
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we keep fuckin eating it on platform 3

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fk

strange python
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We will all hold hands to summon the Dagger Drop Luck Gods

hollow river
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yeah plat 3 is like, the hardest one for tanks i think

strange python
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Soaks fucking you up?

brazen zodiac
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idk

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tbh

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its just like a combo of everything

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our tanks just arent living the arrows? idk lmao

strange python
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Getting launched off the edge or slow deaths?

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Oh

brazen zodiac
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slow deaths

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2 of our best pulls happened last night here and it was like us almost finishing p3 somehow

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but we wiped to a bad dispel

hollow river
strange python
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Tbh I think we killed sylv the first night we did p3. If you're dying on third platform you're easily able to kill it any pull now

oak sky
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im so pumped for next tier

hollow river
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we had to wipe to basically every possible fuck up imaginable

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before people pulled it together for the kill

viscid spear
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I'm just glad I get consistent Sylv kills now

spice spire
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When it’s not inted by quakewar madge

viscid spear
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Before in my old guild it was 3 hours of wiping on stuff we've already got on farm and then "we'll fix some things and do better next time"

brazen zodiac
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zzzz

azure carbon
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If you wipe to it for 3 hrs it's not farm. OMEGAKEKW

hardy wind
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still early i'm sure but for the most part is assassination staying venth or is there some big swap coming?

bleak sky
thorn fjord
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Anyone know of the individual shard bonuses will still work at the start of next tier

slow marsh
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Stay venth go NF after 4p

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No

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They don't

thorn fjord
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Rip

viscid spear
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But that's what we did

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We'd get AotC and try to kill it a few more times in the following weeks and then just stop until the next tier

grizzled jay
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Stay Necro and be an absolute chad

spice spire
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Yes sir

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I’m the lone hold out, among the three Sinscheme

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I did do venthyr for fun tho PepeHands

viscid spear
grizzled jay
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Anyone who drops Necro just doesn't like boners and that's pretty lame.

snow torrent
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Would I be very handicapped going into 9.2 without the Sylv dagger(s)?

hollow river
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nah

snow torrent
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Awesome; thanks

strange python
snow torrent
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Good to hear, prefer playing sin

regal sedge
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should i be stabbing ppl in arenas? kekH

brazen zodiac
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stab

grizzled jay
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Make Love, Not Warcraft

glass tulip
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why not both

brazen zodiac
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mav say it with me

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sylv dies tonight

grizzled jay
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but she doesn't die

brazen zodiac
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probbaly not

viscid spear
gusty mirage
subtle tundra
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wrong

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objectively speaking, you cant have fun in arenas

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i swear i am completely unbiased

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and im not trying to cope with the fact that my guild will make me pvp next patch for higher chance at tier set 😦

fringe kraken
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sin is great in pvp with a healer

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lol gonna be easy with a bunch of 0 vers players next patch

subtle tundra
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dont care about hard or easy

fringe kraken
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just think of it as hard mode pve

glass tulip
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battlegrounds baby

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10x easier than arena since you just sit in once place in stealth and sap people and then dump on them

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  • tons more honor
echo geyser
fringe kraken
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Yeah, if your guild is making you do it, then group up and do rbg's with them

subtle tundra
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rbgs are unfathomably boooooooooooooooooring

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as a rogue atleast

fringe kraken
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naw, it's the rush of actually playing your class fantasy

subtle tundra
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just go to enemy point and try to sneaky capture it :/

fringe kraken
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yep, that's super fun

glass tulip
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then get slapped down by a guardian druid

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ez

subtle tundra
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different people, different opinions, i've not once ever cared about fantasy in a game

glass tulip
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I didnt either

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but class hall campaign was actually fun fantasy quests

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but other than that yeah idrc

subtle tundra
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class hall just made me jealous of the cool warrior one, when rogue has a sewer

fringe kraken
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honestly battlegrounds is where rogue actually feels like a rogue

subtle tundra
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indirectly called me a rat

fringe kraken
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in raids, there is no rogue feel at all, you are just another melee dps

glass tulip
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literally a rat class wdym

fringe kraken
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for real lol

glass tulip
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showing the badge to get in and everything

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so cool

fringe kraken
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yep, like a spy kinda

subtle tundra
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just an annoyance for me

glass tulip
fringe kraken
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what makes you want to play rogue lol

subtle tundra
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also, not being able to mount

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i like assa gameplay

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-> i play assa

fringe kraken
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even in 9.0?

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lol

subtle tundra
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killed denathrius mythic as sin in 9.0

fringe kraken
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I feel you though, assassinations is the only spec I like

subtle tundra
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before 9.0.5

fringe kraken
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I guess with gear it felt better at launch

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low haste it was awful

subtle tundra
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never understood that

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the low haste = feels bad

brazen zodiac
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pseudo thing ig

fringe kraken
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I mostly pvp, so assa was bad in s1

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but this spec usually gets better as the expansions go on

brave moth
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Necro sin dead in 9.2? Doomblade no more purpose? pve

grizzled jay
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Necro can't die, they are undead.

glad siren
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hi everyone, could i ask a P3 Sylv question? what's everyone's take on CD's? .... do i save 1.5 min cd's to go with the 2min cd's all of P3? or shoot on cd?

brave moth
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depends on the cd

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if its amplifier id just use it off cooldown. when u know ur gonna be hitting the boss for the duration. But thats just what I do

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9.2 deathspike rework?

glad siren
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for say, flag.

brave moth
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good question.

glad siren
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i looked through a bunch of logs and nothing has been consistant. so I just figured i'd ask here since there are a lot of people much smarter than me 😄

slow marsh
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It all depends on when you lust

glad siren
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13:30 after scream and veil on platform 4

slow marsh
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I would just look through your fight logs and see when you're casting and if you're getting full usage / if you can get an extra cast by sending

glad siren
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atm with popping things on cd i've been at 8-8.6k dps but they think if i save the cd's to align with 2min cd's i'll do more ... but i feel like i'll be missing a flag and lose dps from it but i dunno

slow marsh
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Because for some people they line up every flag + vend in p3 and others send both and sync for lust. Just depends a bit

glad siren
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^ yeah that's what i'm seeing on logs too

slow marsh
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Neither is necessarily right or wrong

glad siren
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tyvm btw for all the responses. i appreciate the feedback

brave moth
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Hope im not forced to play venthyr sin in 9.2 am I ? Will they release 9.2 patch notes before the actual patch?

slow marsh
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Yeah

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Though right now venth is pretty far ahead until 2p at least

brave moth
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cuz the leggo isnt garbage, obedience? such as deathspike. Does sepsis benefit from 2 and 4 piece bonus? Cuz I'd play fae if it's the best. But inbetween I'l have to play venthyr till im geared to keep my guild happy.

slow marsh
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There's a little hope for Necro before double leggo so if you really hate venth that's an option I suppose

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Sepsis does benefit from tier, the 2p specifically + apl updates is whats pushed it ahead after 4p double leggo

brave moth
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how do you mean there's hope for necro is there something I don't know?

slow marsh
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It doesn't quite get curb stomped until double leggos come into play

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So if you like the play-style/want more cleave it's a fine option to start

gusty mirage
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Yeah double leggo is what makes necro fall hard because deathspike is butt cheeks

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But it’s not by any means unplayable

slow marsh
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Still not as good as venth but if you really hate venth....

gusty mirage
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At the end of the day if your raid is relying on your personal dps being a couple hundred dps higher during early 9.2 prog they have bigger issues than you choosing to play necro

slow marsh
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Also the early fights have a ton of cleave so it might be more than fine to start prog with if you're not gonna play sub

placid kraken
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Any thoughts on a fight by fight basis for Sin vs Sub?

slow marsh
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Uhhh sub kinda wins everywhere right now mostly because daggers but it's base is just hogher

brave moth
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We should expect one or two rogue changes for each spec (outlaw,sin, sub)?

gusty mirage
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Honestly rogue tuning is probably done unless something really changes with next week’s build

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The preliminary sims and info in the pins for sin and sub (dunno about outlaw, that spec sucks stay capped lul) is probably going to be the best bet for any updates to playstyle changes

slow marsh
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I think there's a very small chance sub gets another nerf and sin gets a slight buff but I'm talking like 3% chance imo

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Best we can realistically hope for are bug fixes that are buffs

gusty mirage
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Wtb poison bug fix already

slow marsh
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Seriously

brave moth
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I enjoy using serrated bonespike just for low energy cost combo points. Ye cuz spike x2 hits same target each time no? and it uses a charge but doesn't refund a charge.

gusty mirage
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yeah deathspike is a mess

slow marsh
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Yeah spike just sucks. It's buggy and has next to no st dps gain

gusty mirage
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we can blame outlaw for everything bad that happened to deathspike

slow marsh
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Pretty much

brave moth
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and doomblade is such a cool leggo, but not worth

slow marsh
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And then they don't even use it

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Doomblade had it's time

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Honestly if dusk didn't get vend to 1min and/or we had a different 4p then we'd prolly be using doom again

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Pretty good leggo as boring as it is

brave moth
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wich one is boring? dusk?

slow marsh
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Doom

brave moth
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I like having 4 bleeds on a target. Um is there something down the line of FAE that reduces Sepsis cooldown?

slow marsh
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Not really

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If the Target dies before it pops it gets reduced to 1min

celest ruin
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what bosses in the next raid drop agi daggers?

slow marsh
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But then you wasted damage so

brave moth
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I saw a trinket on ptr giving 600+/- secondary stat at 239 itlvl

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1000 at 278

slow marsh
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Yeah that will probably get nerfed again but it does look good

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It also has a party stack thing

brave moth
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I need an opinion over what to play starting 9.2 if atm im running doomblade/necro. Probably have to check Pin for viable builds.

slow marsh
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Just wait a couple weeks it'll be fine

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Plenty of time to decide

brazen zodiac
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sup ice

slow marsh
brazen zodiac
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whats poppin

slow marsh
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Chillin at the airport

brave moth
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wich airport

slow marsh
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Sea

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I'm here for 4 hours so I'm hard chillin

brave moth
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what does Dslice stand for on the pin(sims comparison) is it aoe?

slow marsh
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Dungeon slice

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Our cutie cfs + whisp created a slice of a m+ run and they've done a hellofa job on it so it's real good

brave moth
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so it's based on aoe dmg? dslice

slow marsh
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Kinda

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It has aoe and a boss fight

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So it's a solid mix of both

cerulean nest
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what's everyone doing to prep besides leveling up renown?

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anything sneaky helpful?

gusty mirage
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farm a ton of ash and cinders

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just in case

slow marsh
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A lot of people have been doing pvp

gusty mirage
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but that kinda goes hand in hand with farming renown

slow marsh
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Next week try and do a 20 so you get a 15 week 1

brave moth
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and gold.... I wonder will wow token gold cost drop?

slow marsh
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But yeah not really much you can do other than stack gold

cerulean nest
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how much are you stocking up with?

slow marsh
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I'm poor now cuz houkan ban. Only have 220k

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But I'm also not gonna have to buy boes off rip so it should be fine

brave moth
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I made dashing scoundrel will it have any use in 9.2? Is sepsis a poison? cuz Phial trinket(nature dmg) doesn't benefit from Dashing.

slow marsh
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Sepsis is a poison yes

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But that wouldn't really be a reason to use dashing imo

brave moth
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ye

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whats 2.5 seconds 100% faster

gusty mirage
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but I'm down to like 2k cinders after buying some sockets for my pvp gear

brave moth
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rift farm?

brazen zodiac
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shit lag killin us zzz

brave moth
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Is there no sim's for tier sets yet? Cuz the pinned sim's are all SOD gear.

balmy condor
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with my spreadsheet

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that I update

brave moth
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Yeah i've looked at those, the link provided inside of the spreadsheet takes me to SOD gear with double leggo on trinket slot for some odd reason.

gusty mirage
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Yes so that you can easily compare the legendary effects

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why does the actual gear equipped matter if you're getting the tier set effects & the legendary effects?

uneven hamlet
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Isn't there some raid items with PH yet?

gusty mirage
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the sims are to compare the tier effects, legendary choices, and covenant choices

brave moth
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venthyr doesn't benefit from Set items cuz its arcane dmg.

gusty mirage
#

shadow damage

#

but yeah

#

how does having the gear from sepulcher change that

#

each of those sims where it's labeled 4pc has the 4pc bonus enabled

#

where it has the 2pc enabled, it has just the 2pc enabled

#

so why does it matter if the gear equipped is sod gear or not

balmy condor
#

I do one pull

gusty mirage
#

the shards are disabled so those don't even factor in

brave moth
#

how did u manage to test the tier sets without having it equipt

balmy condor
#

because I'm a hackerman

gusty mirage
#

because there's a setting for it in simc to enable the effect

balmy condor
#

and can enable the tier

#

via command

brave moth
#

so venth is just so broken it doesn't need to benefit from the tier sets atm. that defeats the purpose of tier set

balmy condor
#

what

gusty mirage
#

venthyr never had any benefit from the tier set bonuses

#

how is it "broken"

balmy condor
#

venth currently is better, tier interacts with sepsis directly, so it becomes better

brave moth
#

yeah, so basically as venth u dont need the set items

balmy condor
#

what

#

that's... not how that works

echo geyser
#

💀 time for a vacation

balmy condor
#

just because the set doesn't directly impact flag

gusty mirage
balmy condor
#

doesn't mean it doesn't do damage

#

it's 14% for venth

#

18% for fae

#

but it's still 14%

#

just because its BIGGER for fae

sonic briar
#

Whispyr destroys my brain using fax and logic

slow marsh
#

I mean yeah just because people are hype on nf doesn't mean venth can't come bop it on the head still

lyric crater
#

not a fan of NF

slow marsh
#

Probably still a couple tweaks that could be had for venth apl after tier set to try and get CDs unscuffed

lyric crater
#

if they change nerco lego be nice they wont it looks but any thing can happen

slow marsh
#

Deathspike is on their radar

lyric crater
#

really only 2 week to go cutting it close

slow marsh
#

Not saying it'll get reworked now but they are at least aware of how buns it is

#

They might throw a couple bug fix attempts at it if possible then look to full rework in .5

lyric crater
#

just have it increase the bleed damage by 100% like the power in tower

slow marsh
#

There's lots of stuff they could do yeah

brave moth
#

I like this conversation.

upbeat needle
#

true pain

brazen zodiac
#

lmfao

hollow river
#

@spice spire

spice spire
#

It’s time monkascheme

#

One of our rogues has to swap next tier so I just have to not be the worst one of the three monkascheme

hollow river
#

i was 166ilvl before my guild's heroic sale tn

spice spire
#

Oh good shit

#

Holy fuck

#

Quakewar is 241 rn

#

Hard to learn a class while you have to make calls tho. Because I suck

hollow river
#

learning it is a little ehh for me rn

#

trying to not overcap Rage instead of combo points monkaW

misty holly
oak sky
#

The bugs are fixed

brave moth
#

So it spreads to different targets when u cast it on the same target? the 1 aditional spike

hollow river
#

it already did that before

#

it's just giving you charges back when the mobs die propely now

brave moth
#

and the dot tick is once every 2.5 seconds? thats a tad bit long

hollow river
#

idk. but it's basically an infinite dot

#

you don't have to ever reapply it, so

brave moth
#

and the 2 and 4 piece bonus both effect serated bone spike?

hollow river
#

not sure

brave moth
#

cuz exsanguinate doesnt work on it

slow marsh
#

Yeah they should work with it

#

It's why Necro is competitive with 2p

#

And 4p too

grizzled jay
#

Boners happy

slow marsh
#

It's just deathspike sucks and you have to use it while the others get an actual dps increase with theirs

brave moth
#

I see they nerfed kevin's oozling

#

6% dmg blob for 10 sec, was 20 sec i think thats what I see on logs.

#

after u cast deathspike

#

and its pandemic so it can go up to 25+ seconds

slow marsh
#

Na they didn't nerf

#

It's 10s per cast of sbs

brave moth
#

but i play bonesmith heirmeir for 18% crit on opener and 3% agility buff.

grizzled jay
exotic rose
#

Hey guys, are we most likely crafting dusk on ring for fae?

#

Just trying to buy the base mats now before they become too expensive.

gusty mirage
glass tulip
#

god is real

#

69% crits on winds

unknown.png
#

and 4:32 fight time

brave moth
#

On witch slot should I craft Zoldyck for M+ ? for 9.2? when sets come in It's available on boots and pants, will it change in 9.2?

misty holly
balmy condor
brave moth
#

But legs is set slot no?

oak sky
#

Kinda makes sense to go legs since stats are closer in m+ so you can just go the other 4 tier pieces

#

But do we need zoldyck?

#

Only with necro ig?

brave moth
#

Ye well how do I execute necro properly for M+ going in to 9.2 what can I do to prep, is dusk gonna be BIS

timber gale
#

I feel like I’m gonna stay NF or Venthyr dusk for keys even if it’s not optimal

#

Seems very fun

limber lion
#

Once I get the tier set, I'll probably stick to playing NF only everywhere.

#

What a blessed timeline

oak sky
uneven summit
#

So NF with dusk is the go to cuz of movement in raid yea?

junior rampart
#

NF with 4p tier dreamweaver?

glass tulip
#

The justification is that at max tier/2 leggo it surpassed in dps

#

That's about it

#

Based purely on numbers venthyr would still be played up to that point

uneven summit
#

Ah okay

#

Makes sense

#

So out of sepsis, do we bother with ambush or?

oak sky
#

yes

#

and from subt

uneven summit
#

Yeah the sub bonus on garrote doesnt effect sepsis as i recall

#

Does our stat weights change in 9.2 as it looks now?

oak sky
#

i think we still want haste and crit but mastery gets a little better

#

always safest to sim

brave moth
#

il be the only necro rip

weary marten
#

hey ! just to clarify cuz i don't have english game, which legendary is dusk ?

jade minnow
#

30 energy spent -1 sec vendetta

weary marten
#

ok thanks !

#

dusk on ring ?

vestal wren
#

yes

weary marten
#

oh i know where is my confusion, cuz "dust" thingy exists too right ?

vestal wren
#

there is shadowdust and duskwalkers

#

i can see the confusion

#

shadowdust reduces your cooldowns by 20 sec, while dusk reduces vendetta cooldown

weary marten
#

yeah thanks for confirming it 😄

vestal wren
#

but dusk won't be the play before getting the 4 piece set bonus

weary marten
#

i think i have dusk but haste versa besad

jade minnow
#

Haste versa is optimal if you do pvp also

weary marten
#

that's why i have it yeah

jade minnow
#

Its not even that bad for pve anyways

versed mica
#

so is there essentially no more hope for a deathspike rework? bruh

stable pasture
#

I saw on the sheet Whispyr put out there are legionaries assigned on the 4 set bonus - on the pre-double legendary sims above it

#

Is that just assuming we're playing dashing with 2 set and 4 set pretty much till double lego is out?

#

or do you go dusk as soon as you get 4 set likely

limber lion
#

We play Obedience until then.

thin trout
#

I doubt Dusk is even remotely close until u have 4set

stable pasture
limber lion
#

Nope

#

Dashing became good with the frost set

#

Without frost it's the inferior choice

stable pasture
#

I see ok cool ty

limber lion
#

Still decent, like 3rd best lego, so it's completely fine to just not change if you don't care enough or don't have the resources to swap

stable pasture
#

Have obedience on cape so it's all good

sonic schooner
#

Imma miss my frost shield and my energy regen

#

Back to 1 button to press every 2 seconds

limber lion
#

Energy regen?

#

Are you not aware what the tier set does

sonic schooner
#

I'm

#

Tbh

hollow dirge
#

We be overcapping badly😂

sonic schooner
#

I'm kinda lost

limber lion
#

Like we legit

sonic schooner
#

Ok never mind

limber lion
#

double our energy

sonic schooner
#

Let's gooo

limber lion
#

literally not enough buttons in the world to use up all energy

sonic schooner
#

Imma zoom zoom on bosses

arctic walrus
#

Remove externals

warm drift
#

But thats only during vendetta right?

#

Nvm duskwalker

#

Don't mind me

rapid forum
#

Just finished leveling venthyr, which guy do we use ?

warm drift
#

What content do u do?

pure moth
#

you use theo with crit/tea and nadja if you get anything else for raids. dungeons = theo

bronze kelp
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
rapid forum
#

Raid only

hollow river
#

Theo if you roll crit/haste tea, or nadjia. Typically. Can vary some depending on your gear

wind hull
#

!guide

prisma monolithBOT
brazen zodiac
#

good morning

storm nymph
#

Which Covs are we going for 9.2? NF Or staying venthyr?

hollow escarp
#

I think we still play venthyr until we get 4 set

thin trout
#

obedience innit?

limber lion
#

Yes sir

marble hemlock
#

You mean Necro until 4set

limber lion
marble hemlock
#

On like half the bosses, at least

limber lion
#

ngl Necro is great with the 4p

#

if you don't have double legendaries at that point yet

marble hemlock
#

Ye

limber lion
#

buuuut the double lego kinda shifts it

marble hemlock
#

Might be Necro/venthyr to start, Necro with 2pc+, then fae with double leg+4pc

hollow escarp
#

I was planning on playing sub until I get 4 set, now I'm considering necro hmm

marble hemlock
#

2pc is nice burst with SBS, ngl

#

And there's some decent multi target fights

hollow escarp
#

artificer Kreygasm

slow marsh
#

Pantheon

#

Anduin is a solid Necro fight too since you can have sbs ticking on anduin while downstairs

marble hemlock
#

Flesh craft also still nice

hollow escarp
#

I did all bosses once until anduin but I barely remember anything

#

I liked the moving single target boss

#

and artificer

slow marsh
#

I imagine lords of dread is real nice Necro too

marble hemlock
#

There's a few fights with decent amount of resets

slow marsh
#

I mean skolex is the only pure st fight so far so

#

And he's possibly 2nd boss right

#

Or 3rd

hollow escarp
#

ohh yeah, the one I'm talking about has pillars that need to be killed

#

so not that st

slow marsh
#

Halondrus

#

I guess they actually removed the pillar thing so he's in there too now maybe

hollow escarp
#

field of blosssoms on some of these bosses weird

slow marsh
#

If they don't replace with something else

#

Yeah field was pretty awkward from my testing

hollow escarp
#

even on skolex as you still move quite a lot

slow marsh
#

Most of them are moving everywhere

#

But on the other hand korayn seems pretty nice with all the prio add stuff

#

So idk

brazen zodiac
#

the bosses names kinda rad

hollow escarp
#

out of this world

brazen zodiac
#

esp halondrus

hollow escarp
#

sounds like a cheese brand

slow marsh
#

Dasausage

brazen zodiac
#

cheese brand? hm

marble hemlock
#

Can get first strike value on a lot of bosses

brazen zodiac
#

sounds like a european dish

#

kinda yum?

slow marsh
hollow escarp
#

is that the first boss?

brazen zodiac
#

yeah

slow marsh
#

Ye

brazen zodiac
#

weird boss

hollow escarp
#

that's where I got KA from my druid, probably worst boss for assa LULW

brazen zodiac
#

yeah?

slow marsh
#

I got some KA on pantheon and lithium as night fae

brazen zodiac
#

idk rupture everything and pray?!?

slow marsh
#

It was uhhhhh interesting

#

Vigilant mythic is a lot more interesting because you have actual prio adds

#

But heroic is just stack em up and watch the blizzard/rain of fire / spin to win do the work

neon cloak
#

Do we have sim comparison between Sin and Sub?

#

i remember it was in pin, but not anymore

agile geode
#

pins are in 9.2 threads

#

of each spec

stable pasture
#

Is that in the # thread next to pins? looked through but could find sin sims but not sin vs sub

bleak sky
#

you go to the sub channel and see their sims

#

there's 0 need for a sub vs sim comparison sheet

stable pasture
#

from message above sounded like there was one, why i asked

drifting cloud
#

open 2 tabs

pale knot
#

is mythic sylv dagger best wep in offhand next patch ?

vestal wren
#

It will get replaced in mythic

bleak sky
#

probably

vestal wren
#

But up to that point prpbably

pale knot
#

whats this then ?

#

got linked to me

polar cape
#

Outlul sims

pale knot
#

ohhh

spice spire
#

Yeah that looks like outlaw monkaGIGA

upbeat needle
#

I hope they nerf dagger into ground

#

😦

spice spire
#

Why tho

upbeat needle
#

Still haven't gotten a mythic one outta vault

#

big jealous

spice spire
#

Jealousy isn’t a reason to hope for nerfs PepeHands

polar cape
#

Dont see why they would when shit like font was a thing

spice spire
#

Plus think if you get it before reset

upbeat needle
#

font was also fucking stupid

pale knot
#

i have one dagger .. got 15 kills and 20 + vaults ^^

spice spire
#

You have a bis item day one

#

Or close to

#

And that’s nice

upbeat needle
#

I won't tho

#

lmfao

spice spire
#

I believe yejoice

upbeat needle
#

heroic one won't even be good for assa right

#

or sub

#

It's mythic or bust yea?

spice spire
#

I don’t even use heroic offhand now.
For sub iirc it’s nuts still

#

Mythic obviously best

pale knot
#

it has to be bis for sub next patch in offhand

vestal wren
gusty mirage
upbeat needle
#

for SIN??

vestal wren
#

But assassination gets lower benefits, so that's mostly on sub or outlae

#

Outlaw

spice spire
#

I must have a weird gear profile.
Even rn, a 252 normal offhand is considered better than a 246

vestal wren
#

Assassination would replace a lower item level eon fast

gusty mirage
#

We generate like 20 combo points every 2.5 weeks as sin

ocean breach
#

Does the slyv dagger have similar benefits in AOE as single target?

vestal wren
#

No

spice spire
#

I generate 20 a month

gusty mirage
ocean breach
#

I’m just gearing a new rogue for next patch and I’ll likely be playing sin in raid and sub in keys. Just trying to decide if I should be getting into normals or such to try and have one for next season

vestal wren
#

You probably should try to get a heroic one for subtlety

gusty mirage
#

Yeah normal one isn’t worth it

#

For any spec

ocean breach
#

I was afraid that was the answer ha

vestal wren
#

For assassination, you can farm a good dagger in m+ during the early weeks and be fine likely

#

But you might not want to spend your Valor on weapons hmm

ocean breach
#

Sounds good. Thanks for the input.

bleak sky
#

me 🤝 dumping valor on phial

polar cape
spice spire
#

True

gusty mirage
spice spire
gusty mirage
#

I’ll finish the expac never having seen a max ilvl phial

spice spire
#

Same

austere lintel
bleak sky
#

2 seasons on rogue and no max phial

cobalt flame
#

So, what 2nd covenant (I have only Venth atm) is good to prepare for 9.2 assa. Want to be little more flexible in next patch.

bleak sky
#

220/246 for life

gusty mirage
gusty mirage
bleak sky
#

220 pretty number

#

246 ugly ass number

drifting cloud
#

has anyone done a sim with 4p/2 legos regarding offhand eon?

spice spire
#

The ilvl alone makes 259 better kekl

drifting cloud
#

mine was only regular gear with no shard set as venthyr

#

and 259 was beating 285

#

🙂

spice spire
#

I should have clarified that.

#

That’s legitimately surprising, but neat!

drifting cloud
#

but NF 4p/2lego might swing it other way around

#

or well wont swing it ALOT, but atleast it wont be better

spice spire
#

You’d think it would help it more, yeah? More finishers and more CP gain.
I’d think rooDerp

drifting cloud
#

the robots know I dont

spice spire
#

Same

gusty mirage
#

More finishers? Slow down flash

#

You might throw out your hip with that

drifting cloud
#

either way I think it might be staying equipped for a while even as assa

spice spire
#

No thoughts, brain empty. Luckily whispyr + robots smarter than me

drifting cloud
#

especially if youre taking tier from vault

gusty mirage
#

I think so too

#

Can’t wait to pvp for gear next tier Starege

drifting cloud
#

ehhhh

gusty mirage
#

It’s 9.0 2: electric boogaloo

spice spire
drifting cloud
#

I wouldnt say its like 9.0

gusty mirage
#

True it’s lower ilvl than mythic now

drifting cloud
#

in 9.0 pvp gear was better than mythic gear

gusty mirage
#

By a good chunk

#

1800 put you within 6ilvl of mythic gear too

drifting cloud
#

its just extra options for vault if you a pvp guy

#

think ill just play lost ark instead starege

#

the only true gain might be since pvp vault item pool is so much smalle, alot higher chance to get tier maybe? we dont really know

gusty mirage
slow marsh
gusty mirage
#

You know somethin I don’t?

slow marsh
#

You've seen it on everyone else's gear page just not yours

gusty mirage
tight ginkgo
slow marsh
#

I did it for you

gusty mirage
tight ginkgo
gusty mirage
#

We have to get it quicker this time right?

spice spire
#

Hahahahahah yeah starege

#

It’s happening while I’m in the process of moving too, hate this place

slow marsh
#

At least it's not pretty much right at the start of prog

#

Oh wait

gusty mirage
polar cape
#

No phial no faulty

#

Truly tragic

gusty mirage
#

At least it’s not only around for a week this time

#

Oh wait

spice spire
#

Gonna be spamming those +2s

slow marsh
#

Yeah except valor cap

gusty mirage
#

Beautiful

#

Forgot about valor cap

#

Unless

spice spire
#

Yeah, that’ll sort itself out eventually

gusty mirage
polar cape
#

Using valor for prog or for faulty thats rough

spice spire
drifting cloud
#

faulty might not be bis anyways :p

gusty mirage
#

Unless they don’t bring back the weekly cap?

drifting cloud
#

dont have to super stress about it

gusty mirage
slow marsh
#

True you can wait to get phial from GV then upgrade your +2 faulty

gusty mirage
bleak sky
slow marsh
#

Easy plan ggs

drifting cloud
#

or well it might be bis but definetly wont be as huge to other trinkets compared to now

#

because its not infalted by dom set

bleak sky
#

750 valor a week for 4 months YEP

gusty mirage
#

Is there a trinket that makes the emotional pain stop?

drifting cloud
#

so the ring might be an actual bigger dps upgrade

bleak sky
gusty mirage
tight ginkgo
#

if they dont bring back the weekly cap my broken brain will definitely live in dungeons

spice spire
#

Who hurt you muse?

slow marsh
#

Also going back to mega haste probably would make ring even better

spice spire
#

I’ve been wondering for a bit

drifting cloud
#

does the ring effect scale with ilvl even? I forgot

spice spire
#

Yes

slow marsh
#

Ye

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

I know what hurt you

#

Wayne county

gusty mirage
#

That’s an extensive list

tight ginkgo
#

their name is ion hazzikostas

gusty mirage
#

I’ll sue him for you dw

#

Hopefully he forgot how to be a good lawyer while designing a shit game

tight ginkgo
spice spire
#

Getting a bit toxi

bleak sky
#

ion is a lawyer? KEKW

tight ginkgo
#

yes

drifting cloud
#

ion is dead have you seen him lately

#

they took him out

spice spire
#

Where did they take him out to?

drifting cloud
#

behind the shed

spice spire
#

Korean barbecue?

#

O

tight ginkgo
#

behind the shed? I heard that place is good

spice spire
fading wigeon
gusty mirage
fading wigeon
#

Indeed

strange python
#

Also, without frost set, we sure it'll even be good?

#

Idk how big the Sack nerf was

slow marsh
#

Yeah 2nd of mythic is kinda long from now

strange python
#

Wait that's when legion m+ comes back?

slow marsh
#

Sack is probably unplayable

strange python
#

I thought it was coming like 12 weeks into the patch or something

slow marsh
#

March 16 on calendar

strange python
#

I'm really not looking forward to the ring grind again

slow marsh
#

Maybe they'll push it back

strange python
#

The sack nerf was that big??? At like 233 it was almost competitive with 252 fusion amp

slow marsh
#

They took a hammer to it

strange python
#

Hope raid trinket is good then, I have no interest in farming faulty

slow marsh
#

It should be

#

The super oculus gland is looking to be a favorite

strange python
#

Not the new vita??

viscid spear
#

Vita trinkets
Cring

lusty bane
#

!guide

prisma monolithBOT
lusty bane
#

Any early 9.2 Assa guides or guidelines up yet? 😄

spice spire
#

In the pins for a few basic tidbits

#

The guides will be updated before release

brave moth
#

Will there be a necro sin guide?

lusty bane
#

Any current legendary recommendations for 9.2. Obidience and the shiv one?

bleak sky
fleet anchor
spice spire
drifting cloud
#

does the on use have cracked scaling? @fleet anchor

spice spire
#

Whíspyr had to do Kyrian and NF this tier

drifting cloud
#

because dont get me wrong its a really really good trinket, but just sim it to your 3rd best trinket and disable the dom set and you will see more than half of the dps difference disappears

#

because of what dom set does to the value of crit

#

so isnt it safe to assume that would stay the same next tier?

#

just need 1 good trinket from raid to be competitive so we dont kill ourselves in tws for a week straight, where you cant even farm +2 because otherwise you wont have valor to upgrade it for a month

hollow river
#

I mean you could hold onto it until you had enough valor

drifting cloud
#

for sure, but its like 2nd or 3rd mythic week right

#

I cant just hold valor for a month lol

#

actually a month wouldnt even be enough for a +2, wasnt it like 4.5k to upgrade?

hollow river
#

Not sure tbh

drifting cloud
#

and first you need to loot one which could easily average out to like 50 runs

hollow river
#

Yeah

#

Cap is 750 a week so

#

Hmm

brave moth
#

Is current dungeon gear going to be vendored and have to farm it all again to be able to upgrade to whatever higher itlvl?

glass tulip
#

Trinkets are 400, so 4400 for a 1/12 to 12/12 upgrade

brave moth
#

And thats 246 itlvl. Now what about in 9.2 will you be able to upgrade the gear from where you left off at 246 12/12 or will you have to refarm the gear?

glass tulip
#

Refarm

hollow river
#

Refarm baby get ready

#

Enter the grindset

glass tulip
#

One of the most efficient in terms of time and valor cost is to do +10-+12s

brave moth
#

Valor will also probably be capped again

glass tulip
#

not probably

#

it will

brave moth
#

Sadge so whats the highest itlvl you can get for example a +20

#

Cuz its now 236 or smthng

hollow river
#

Like 256ish

#

Not sure what the new max ilvl is

#

Just know the last 3 bosses drop 285(?) iirc

#

So 278ish from weekly vault

kindred rapids
#

I mean it's just +26

hollow river
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And 262 from +15s?

spice spire
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Yeah

clever kindle
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how I enter raid tiers

glass tulip
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Well, rank 7 legendaries are 291

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so I would assume that max ilvl is somewhere around 285

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252/265/278-285

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for raid difficulties

brazen zodiac
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sup mav

cerulean nest
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for m+ before our tier sets/double leggos: zoldycks or obe?

glass tulip
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z OMEGALUL ldycks

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really just depends on whether you play venth or necro

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either will work fine

cerulean nest
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word

bleak sky
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Big obedience advocate

spice spire
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Same, unironically

carmine dawn
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Same, ironically

bleak sky
spice spire
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I’m not actually

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I am primarily venthyr in keys kekg

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I play ass backwards

carmine dawn
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Ill keep workshopping this one

serene shell
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does venthyr legendary stay on back or will we switch to head slot?

limber lion
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The back is fine.

grizzled jay
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Dashing Sinscheme

limber lion
grizzled jay
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Yes Sinscheme

gusty mirage
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he's played obedience as necro before

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man's all over the place

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smh

clever kindle
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legendaries are a crutch!

viscid spear
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Existence is a prison

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And you just dropped the soap

alpine latch
gusty mirage
alpine latch
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shhh

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it's a secret

bold jetty
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with 4p crit/haste is the way to go?

limber lion
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Sure

clever kindle
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rogues are a rube goldberg machine, stats go in, dps comes out