#assassination

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oak sky
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but thats not really relevant

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probably cant gear it fast enough

glass tulip
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I am trying to trade my soul for good progression

bleak sky
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bring mage to first 3/first 6 next week with me

oak sky
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lol no way

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well

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it would depend on days

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also

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remember

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155

hexed frost
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Dog build lock looks like fun tbh. If you can manage to carry a 14 stack grim calling onto the next pack you'll break the damage meters kekwstarege

bleak sky
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oh yeah 155

glass tulip
oak sky
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i dont have a leggo or a set bonus

bleak sky
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we're always short on locks for some god forsaken reason

oak sky
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but i get a fatty vault on tues

glass tulip
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237 ilvl, rank 3 unholy, I'm ready mr. miinalba Fight

bleak sky
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<rats inc> the guild that's gonna smoke <slurp>

oak sky
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lmao

jade minnow
oak sky
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mage you need all covenants to play all specs all situations

bleak sky
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kyrian arcane, necro frost for keys, venth frost for raid, nf for fire

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you gotta have them all yeah

oak sky
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and venth fire for pure st

bleak sky
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oh that

glass tulip
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lock -> NF easy peasy

south hollow
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necro demo

bleak sky
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it's like having a rogue and not getting all the covs just in case

oak sky
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safest cov to ignore on rogue is necro

bleak sky
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gotta care about your alts man

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treat them with love

glass tulip
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alts cannot have shadowblade title

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therefore, worthless

bleak sky
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I don't have a shadowblade title

oak sky
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same

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i have breaker of chains

glass tulip
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worthless šŸ˜— šŸ’¦

bleak sky
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I have hand of the archon

jade minnow
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Shadowblade %s + lego daggers basic kit

viscid spear
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Titles, pfft.

wind hull
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crit/haste are desired stats?

limber lion
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Sure

wind hull
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can any one tell me preferred talents for m+?

bleak sky
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ep subt vigor iron wire crimson tempest

oak sky
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and cheat of course

wind hull
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do i get venom rush or alacrity?

bleak sky
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alacrity always in all content

limber lion
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Alacrity always for all content

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Also, maybe you should read a guide

bleak sky
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DAMN CEV

limber lion
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if you're asking between Alacrity and Venom Ruish

wind hull
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thank you

limber lion
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!guide

alpine radish
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Having been able to go into ptr at all lately, what lego is it looking like with the cov baseline?

bleak sky
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pins got a lot of info

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but dusk.

oak sky
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duskwalkers is unescapable

alpine radish
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Cheers

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When you say pins do you mean faq or is there a tab im not seeing?

oak sky
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9.2 feedback thread pins

bleak sky
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this channels pins as well

glass tulip
vestal wren
alpine radish
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ty fuu, from my mobile its a pain to find them but ive got them now šŸ˜„

hollow river
hexed frost
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I tried to check out Sub and couldn't tolerate that spec more than one keyOMEGAKEKW

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Monkey spec

foggy temple
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What slot is it recommended to make Duskwalker on for 9.2? Better stats one place or the other

normal mist
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Probably ring

gusty mirage
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It’ll most likely end up being ring

lyric crater
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or what is the pefer covenant or we not sure yet

normal mist
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It's either ring or whatever the other slot is but i guess we will have to find out what stats does the set give, in case we craft either dusk or cov one in a set slot

spice spire
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Night fae atm

gusty mirage
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We won’t get 4pc for a while so min maxing that slot won’t matter

foggy temple
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isnt it ring or chest?

gusty mirage
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You’d play venthyr until you get the 4pc, and then you’d play fae

spice spire
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Things could change, but almost certainly NF once you get tier set.
Before then, you’re chilling venth

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Damn it oxi

lyric crater
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great night far and yet atm its is bad for 9.1.5

spice spire
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Tier sets

gusty mirage
spice spire
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Literally make the difference. Which is kind of a good thing

lyric crater
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form my under standing cant get x2 lego till u hit rever with the new faction or did they change that

foggy temple
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it tied to story now but still a bit

gusty mirage
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Ye we unlock the belt with a campaign chapter now

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The memory to put the cov leggo on any slot is still tied to rep

normal mist
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I hope the diff between specs isn't that big

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So we don't end up creating multiple unity

foggy temple
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is there any change to talents after hitting the 4pc?

gusty mirage
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Ye ep/subterfuge

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And then deeper stratagem

spice spire
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EP/DS the true final boss HmmHmmHmm

gusty mirage
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It was predicted by seƱor whispyr in 9.0.5

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Never forget

normal mist
gusty mirage
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The spec channels will be lively again

lyric crater
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is it worth trying to play NF im 34 with it before o i left it to be a vamp once i learn it was the best for us at tthat point in time

spice spire
vestal wren
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EP was historically always better with higher gear

gusty mirage
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I’d farm up the renown before 9.2

spice spire
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Not really worth playing number wise. But if you enjoy it you enjoy it happybear

gusty mirage
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Have it ready in case

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Just spam torghast layer 9s so you can stockpile cinders and ash too

spice spire
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All covenants are relatively close, with venthyr just being best right now.
Next tier is more of the same.

If you end up sticking venthyr you won’t be inting raid by not being NF. Necrolord on the other hand Suske

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Will be good on some cleave fights

lyric crater
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ok will only boss i been killing ever Fing week is sly sshe just wont drop that dagger on reg or heroic

spice spire
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But ST kekl

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Yeah, I’d just grind rep. It’s a good week to do it

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Plus NF kinda goated in torghast

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The cute 2 mil dps triumvirate of NF powers

gusty mirage
spice spire
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You did kekg

gusty mirage
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Venthyr on release

spice spire
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Tell me about it rooSuffer1

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I love coral rooSuffer1

gusty mirage
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Dollar Tree brand coral

spice spire
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But it didn’t do anything, unlike coral

lyric crater
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o yea sepsis in tower is nuts get the right powers shit justs dies

spice spire
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Deadass the coral you have at home tho fr

gusty mirage
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Ye it’s insane

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Then you can get the soul shape heal one

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So like you’re invincible

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Venthyr gets a stacking buff that reduces the cast time and cd of door

cobalt hemlock
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you want to shiv before sepsis right or this doesnt affect the dmg of it

gusty mirage
spice spire
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Damage is affected by sepsis

vestal wren
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soulshape in torghast is so nice

hollow river
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Which power makes nf goated in ghast

spice spire
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Iirc you shiv after sepsis. So the boom is in the window

gusty mirage
spice spire
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I legit haven’t run it in so long

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I just remember doing mad damage in 9.0

gusty mirage
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One makes sepsis cleave for 15% of your targets health or whatever

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Another resets your vendetta/blades/ar if the debuff expires

hollow river
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Yeah I got 2 powers that buffed it iirc

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They didn’t seem super op but I was rushing

gusty mirage
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And there’s a third, but this past week has been a blur between torghast and comp stomp

hollow river
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The extra move speed on your blink form

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Was pretty dope

gusty mirage
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Yeah and it reduces the cd of soul shape

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So you’re just zoomin

hollow river
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Yeah

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Still couldn’t keep up with my buddy on his DH omegalul

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They fucking ZOOM Torghast

gusty mirage
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Yeah DH has always been grossly OP in torg

vestal wren
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did you try the boss mode in torghast?

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got told its quite a lot of fun

gusty mirage
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I have not, but I’ve seen a bit of it. It looks great

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Nice solo content instead of running around in circles in oribos

median silo
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Got fate helm tonight, swapped gems but forget to actually equip the helm and did kt without socket set ;-;

tight ginkgo
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Nothing.

tight ginkgo
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IRL and otherwise pepehands

gusty mirage
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Wild SL release was so long ago

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And we’ve had no content

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Unfort

spice spire
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Wdym no content we’ve had

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Uh

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Keys?

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One decent raid and sod?

normal mist
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Keys 2 years straight xD

gusty mirage
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Sod is fine

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Shards are the shitty part

brazen zodiac
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Sup quakeroats :D

spice spire
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Yeah, idk, boring boss design imo

gusty mirage
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Anyone want some of my 500 embers that I can’t use at all?

spice spire
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Howdy vita

gusty mirage
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You know what would be great

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If I could like send them to an alt or something

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That’d be fucking cool

subtle kettle
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Alt catch up? Never met her

gusty mirage
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True

brazen zodiac
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Heard she's based

gusty mirage
brazen zodiac
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Wyd quake

spice spire
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Yeah, you know what’s awesome, pugging sod on your alt every other week, when I can do the bosses with my eyes closed at this point.

spice spire
nocturne geode
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what up bois

brazen zodiac
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Nice im gonna make eggs and steak

gusty mirage
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Or at least it seems that way

nocturne geode
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i appreciate you all and your banter while i work it makes the day go by quick

brazen zodiac
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I appreciate u my good friend !

gusty mirage
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Sometimes I wonder if people have their monitors on in pugs

spice spire
gusty mirage
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True

nocturne geode
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i roleplay as a dh. so im blind folded here

gusty mirage
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Also can someone go over to altered time and ask mages why they don’t interrupt?

nocturne geode
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xD

gusty mirage
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It’s been bothering me all expac

spice spire
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Real

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20s CD with conduit

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Too long, sorry

gusty mirage
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This frost mage had 5 interrupts in this 23pf last night

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5

spice spire
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Too busy snapping my barrier to interrupt

gusty mirage
spice spire
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Did you time

gusty mirage
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Barely

spice spire
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See? Your chuckling

spice spire
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I got a 22 PF, pretty free, turns into a 23 spires

gusty mirage
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23 spires is free

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Wtf

spice spire
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Final dps has to kick

gusty mirage
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Oh true

spice spire
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I’ve ran like 5 this week and literal 0 kick andys

gusty mirage
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Nah just do what that guy from anvil did

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Don’t interrupt and cloak before fists goes off

spice spire
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Real

gusty mirage
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Then hit them with the ā€œnecro sin superiority ;>ā€

spice spire
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Damn

copper sundial
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Bro the embers burning a hole in my bags is actually annoying

spice spire
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Beat me to it

gusty mirage
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Then cry on stream when you get your trial accepted

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Then let me find out that happened

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Then keep the vod up so I can save it into my archives

spice spire
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Toxi full force rn

gusty mirage
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Because I’m petty af

spice spire
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;>

tight ginkgo
gusty mirage
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WR938 pretending theyre top 100

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Awkward

spice spire
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New year, new me. No toxicity, I’ve purposefully avoided blas0n for this reason Prayge

gusty mirage
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He’s coming for us all

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He’s going to steal all our best players and destroy us in rankings

tight ginkgo
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wait did the cloak thing really happen? o_o

gusty mirage
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Yes

tight ginkgo
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rude

gusty mirage
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It happened to me when I got asked to help a friend with a 16 spires

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This dingus rolled in playing dashing scoundrel and raid talents + CT

vestal wren
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i am happy for him, if it means so much to him that he got a spot that he gets emotional

gusty mirage
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Then purposefully threw the key to get me and the other dps killed

vestal wren
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i don't think any good player rly cares bc. he knows he gets a spot due to his competence

gusty mirage
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Just to brag about beating a venthyr assassination rogue by 800 dps when I was dead for half the dungeon

gusty mirage
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So he thinks he’s good at the game

spice spire
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Sometimes you just gotta let oxi have his time to vent.
It’s cathartic

gusty mirage
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Just m+ monkey brain

vestal wren
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I don't judge

spice spire
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He was so heated after that key though LMAO

gusty mirage
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Kind of like the 2900 io DH I ran with ā€œyou only beat me because you have 2 mythic sylv daggersā€

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No I beat you because you suck

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How tf you losing in dps to a sub rogue who’s funneling bro

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Breaking into the lower echelon of high IO has made me question why I play this game

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So many bad players man

vestal wren
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tbh i am more concerned about subtlety rogue perception

gusty mirage
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I would’ve smoked him if I could press black powder more than 40 times the entire dungeon

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Unlucky

vestal wren
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my gf told me horror stories of ppl who believe the "2 button class" propaganda
and then end up barely aboth the tank in m+ dungeons while still being like "so easy spec"

gusty mirage
tight ginkgo
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tbf i also cry when trial is accepted. But only b/c i don't want to belong to any club that would have someone like me as a member oxiPAIN

spice spire
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To yourself

gusty mirage
spice spire
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You’re goated mr. muse

gusty mirage
tight ginkgo
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Haha just a self-deprecating joke. :)

spice spire
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Was it though sus

gusty mirage
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Not allowed to bully yourself

gusty mirage
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They’re just ignoring shadow dance, symbols, and flag I guess

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And blades

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Iirc those are also buttons

tight ginkgo
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I believe so, yes. peepostudy

gusty mirage
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Had an outlaw rogue try to tell me how complex their rotation is compared to sub

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So I was like… ST rotation + blade flurry?

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Did you need a graduate program to learn that?

flat cradle
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you need a masters to do anything.

tight ginkgo
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well, that plus 5 years of prior experience.

gusty mirage
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True true

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No entry level jobs without a masters + 5 years exp

gusty mirage
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Oh true forgot about that

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But it’s just more shuriken storms COPIUM

tight ginkgo
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A similar thing I see in like 22s and 23s is ww monks doing what they do and then being like "wow you're nearly 2800 io and i out dps you in overall"

vestal wren
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i mean, i don't disagree, subtlety aoe rotaiton with a builder-finisher economy is somewhat boring

vestal wren
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but i am unsure i prefere it over multi dotting like on assassination or not

gusty mirage
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You mean you don’t like putting in more effort to do less damage?

inland hull
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I tried sub in a NW +20 this past weekend and was asked to go back to sin for future keys

alpine latch
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Uhhh

spice spire
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Is a better place šŸ˜›

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But yeah

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Unfortunate

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It’s only communities, so if you have a guild that does sales, or a key group that runs together, you can still do that afaik

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So if anything it’s more spam HmmHmmHmm

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But back to the m+ topic at hand

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I love doing more for less damage, makes me feel like I earned it

wild stag
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!guide

inland hull
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Seems like you're punished less for mistakes on sin

alpine latch
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Running higher keys, I'm really sad that Shiv doesn't prevent a NPC from enraging while it's active

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There's nothing worth than sending it and it enraging 0.3s later

spice spire
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Shiv design is pretty bad, ngl.
I can’t tell you how many groups that are like, nice, a soothe!

And I just say ā€œuh…. About that..ā€

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Next tier is even worse

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Since shiv will be even more of a dps CD

thorn fjord
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"Nice, a soothe" lolol

whole narwhal
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Heyo, Is there any info out yet about ptr, about stat prios for assa?

spice spire
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Pins have stuff

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Stat prioritizes fluctuate and are less important than you think

tight ginkgo
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I mean DPS cool down aside having to wait nearly 30 seconds for another de enrage is stressful, as I’ve discovered this week lol

whole narwhal
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ofc have to get rid of some crit after loosing frost shards

spice spire
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It’ll loosely be haste > crit > mastery > vers.

But it’s not as if haste is the OMEGA STAT to stack. You’ll want a combo of all

thorn fjord
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Would be nice if verse had more prio

lean fossil
spice spire
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No I don’t

lean fossil
spice spire
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Oh I’ve found a new group and they’re more than aware

lean fossil
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now where did you find this group? is there a discount on them? asking for a friend >.>

spice spire
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Guildies lost their rogue, and my group died, they picked me up.
And are infinitely better than me kekl

As for everything else - I can’t say

opal oriole
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Hey, im getting assa as an alt, what leggo should I craft for like 15-20 keys?

spice spire
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Obedience or Zoldyck’s

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Obedience if you’re venthyr, otherwise Zoldyck’s for now

opal oriole
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obedience on head or cloak? I don't plan on raiding too much, just hc to get the 3 dmg shards maybe

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So most ppl ofc say cloak, but helmet gives giga main stat, and there are still 4 other slots for dom sockets

spice spire
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If it’s stats alone, helm. But Dom pieces kinda nice

opal oriole
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yee but i only need the 3 dmg ones, and then maybe the frost absorb one right

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And then what stats as well btw? Haste/crit?

spice spire
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Yeah it’s nice to have the absorbs and shields tbh.
You need 0 of them technically.

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For obedience I’d you plan on multi-speccing crit/vers - otherwise haste crit is fine

opal oriole
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ā¤ļø ty

hexed frost
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Yeah bro i know how outlaw is so much skill capped, but for what? 12K on first pull of halls?OMEGAKEKW

slow marsh
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Yeah I don't get some people

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It's not even skill capped either. Do you have broadsides ? Then finish on 4 instead of 5

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Wow very complex

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Sometimes you press shiv if you're on 4 to make 5

slow marsh
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Omg so complicated

hollow river
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Damn so they have abolished huokan

fringe kraken
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hell yeah

hollow river
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Hell no besad

strange python
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just got benched on sylvanas over the monk buff

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give rogues raid utility fucking blizzard

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im sad

brazen zodiac
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f

hollow river
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Lol

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F bro

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Our ww monk plays his rogue for Sylvanas and our BM tank plays his bear so we don’t bring monk buff

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We did the math and his rogue actually brings more dps than the monk buff and monk brings

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Though that depends heavily from player to player

gusty mirage
nocturne geode
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kekw

gusty mirage
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Are you the only rogue? @strange python

strange python
brazen zodiac
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sup oxi

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and f i hpoe u get back in soon manste

gusty mirage
strange python
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ye ye we still starting p3, not even consistently in itt

grand ridge
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Rogues used to have sunder armor and magic dmg :(

strange python
subtle kiln
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can alway post logs if you want to have them looked over for suggestions on improving

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if you’re not hitting p3, your guilds priorities will change

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we did a full night without a warrior. no rally hurt more than no AP buff lol

gusty mirage
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Yeah at this point none of those buffs should even matter really

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Everyone should be geared to the teeth

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But missing another cloak for an oh shit soak or to help tanks soak up and move puddles will matter

copper sundial
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Yeppers cloak soaking that last swirly is nice

slow marsh
clever kindle
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nobody wanted to be the sunder armor bitch

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and we do still do magic damage like a third of our damage is nature

hollow dirge
clever kindle
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I mean at that point its just a straight buff to us in PVP or elsewhere unless you're also tuning down damage based around that

slow marsh
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I mean implementing another raid buff wouldn't be the way to go though

clever kindle
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Which ends up being a nerf in raid

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Other things to think about there as well, but partially why im glad they separated PVP and PVE tuning somewhat

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If they dont want to give up having flavor from buffs at least add a second class that can provide said buff

slow marsh
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Smoke bomb gets meme'd on a lot but as melee having something to drop on top of an amz or barrier or link ala darkness is super clutch

clever kindle
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it definitely wasn't memed on when it was a part of your kit, I guess it wasnt really super necessary for most mechanics but the I think it was 10% reduction wasnt bad

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just not an oh shit button that got built around

slow marsh
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The 10% reduction alone would be enough though is my viewpoint

hollow dirge
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Maybe make evasion grant the same buff to nearby players for like 3 sec in non pvp envieroment. We can save some tank ass or something šŸ˜‚

slow marsh
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na that'd be broken

hollow dirge
slow marsh
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A raid dr that's not numbing poison or building on numbing poison would be the way to go

clever kindle
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I should note I didn't raid from late cata until like the end of WoD, but before that and after that

clever kindle
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numbing poison kinda slaps tho

slow marsh
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Like numbing poison stacks with curse of weakness and people still use crippling in raid monkahmm

clever kindle
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I just dont use crippling anymore

hollow dirge
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It’s funny that they did admit we have this raid utility issue, but nothing happened months later.
Can’t be that hard, can it?

clever kindle
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they gave us damage

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thats what happened

slow marsh
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Well to be fair it's more of an xpac type of change right

clever kindle
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we said

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if we cant have utility at least give us damage

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so they did

hollow dirge
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I’m fine with that

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Fuck utilityšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

slow marsh
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It would be pretty massive and defy most philosophy to have such a big change as a .5 patch or something

clever kindle
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utility means you have to stop whatever you're doing and remember that shit every time fuck that

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like roaring for druids is actually a pain in the dick if its near ramp

hollow dirge
slow marsh
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I mean pressing a thing once every 2mins ish for one global so that you can be pretty much guaranteed a raid spot isn't that bad imo

clever kindle
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that doesnt mean YOU are guaranteed a raid spot

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just your class

hollow dirge
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Well the rest is on me right?

slow marsh
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Ye but that's the point right

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I mean me personally am guaranteed a raid spot regardless but the point is that I'd rather it be on rogue

clever kindle
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I was just being pedantic

hollow dirge
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I mean, I never had trouble with it, but I understand rogues have worse starting position than most melee

slow marsh
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It would indeed cause a bit of an influx in rogue players so more competition, but that's not a bad thing

clever kindle
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the simple answer is to do more damage then your contemporaries and die less and you wont be sat

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Not that that's the case for say like a top 500 guild

opal oriole
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What is your dmg profile supposed to look like in a dungeon?

slow marsh
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That's my point though all of this is irrelevant for your average 1-2k guild

gusty mirage
slow marsh
clever kindle
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I mean that's where we sit and it still matters, having to find certain pieces for your raid when someones out sick sucks

gusty mirage
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And they’re gone next tier

slow marsh
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i'm sure mr 3k rio oxi could be more specific

gusty mirage
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I’m not 3k IO

slow marsh
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/s

clever kindle
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I know shards are good, and that relatively speaking they make up a higher portion of our damage then others. We'll see how tuning shakes out

gusty mirage
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Yeah now’s just a waiting game

limber lion
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idk how it's for ya'll, but CT is pretty much always my top damage in m+

gusty mirage
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But if other classes that bring shit are higher tuned

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It’ll be 9.0 all over again

clever kindle
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I dont think they will poke around with rogue too much more but it is what it is

limber lion
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but damage profiles don't really matter

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they change up quite a bit depending on what you're trying to do

#

and how much you funnel/prio

#

and how much you just go ham on overall

lyric crater
#

if they rework rupture a little like have it do instant damage x mount then leave a dot that might help with dps alittle

slow marsh
#

I still have the hopium that we will get a touch of tuning within the next couple weeks but it's kind of a long shot i suppose

gusty mirage
#

They could start by fixing the bug where rupture, garrote, and shiv don’t proc poisons

slow marsh
#

ye

gusty mirage
#

That’d be a good start

slow marsh
#

The garrote one especially hurts going into next tier playing subt everywhere

hollow dirge
slow marsh
#

I mean getting talents looked at i'd say is a long shot and that'd probably be what we would want the most, but small stuff like what oxi said is reasonable enough sure

lyric crater
#

u know what be cool of they give us kingbane posion back as a talent or some thing close to it

viscid spear
#

My crit is criminally low atm, could I run Obed with Frost in raids until I get a better crit total?
monkaSteer

lyric crater
#

whats your cirt at?

slow marsh
#

You know the drill ash

viscid spear
#

I posted it on Wednesday and Whispyr almost had an aneurysm peeposcared

#

About 700

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

Ash sus

#

@viscid spear I’ll sim you real quick

gusty mirage
tulip kernel
#

will duskwalker be go to even before 4 piece next tier?

gusty mirage
#

No

#

Only once we get the 4pc

tulip kernel
#

kk

spice spire
#

Get phial

#

252 and you’re done

balmy condor
viscid spear
gusty mirage
balmy condor
#

damn

slow marsh
slow marsh
spice spire
#

9.0 legendaries (Zoldyck, may as well have been 0)
9.1 legendary
9.2 legendaries
9.3 legendaries

visual prairie
#

9.3 legendariess

gusty mirage
slow marsh
#

well cross faction is officially a thing now so

#

Can't wait for the end of SL even more

viscid spear
#

Dragon Isles incoming? 🐲

oak sky
#

9.2.5 is gonna GIGABANG

nocturne geode
#

alli for raid?!

#

šŸ˜„

winter vapor
#

i personally would like a change where FoK does CP based on number of bleeds we have up, gives us a bit more funnel in m+

oak sky
#

Yeah could be cool but unlikely to come sooner than a spec rework in 10.0

#

Who knows tho

#

And the rework is hypothetical anyway

winter vapor
#

yeah, it assumes our M+ rotation remains similar to now

#

its a nice idea but an idea is all it is

normal mist
#

9.2.5 huge news? oh shiits

#

we can now be night elves

gusty mirage
#

see ya in goldshire

normal mist
#

LOL!

#

See you there you sexy bastard

#

But this is legit huge, im wondering how it will be implemented tho

bleak sky
#

Ezclap

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

Just d-don’t do the C word monkaGIGA

spice spire
#

Yeah

gusty mirage
#

wtf is the c word

spice spire
#

Community

gusty mirage
#

oh

clever kindle
#

.. nah thats crazy it would never work, better make most of them useless

gusty mirage
#

wait a second

#

those sound kind of like professions

alpine latch
#

Holy shit, you might be on to something Johnson

clever kindle
gusty mirage
#

you're telling me you could make GOLD off of the professions you leveled?

clever kindle
#

yes for providing value to other players hmm

gusty mirage
#

next you'll tell me the game used to be more community based than just never seeing another person you've played with again

clever kindle
#

I know illidans raid general chat

grand ridge
clever kindle
#

been the same people for half a decade Pepela

#

I dont remember that but there was a few years I was away from the game, or I might have just been new and dumb

grand ridge
#

It was assassination only

clever kindle
#

oh thats probably why I was a sword boi for most of my wow tenure

grand ridge
#

I miss cata buffs

#

It was great

#

You had a little buff tracker thingy

#

Get 9/9 you are golden

#

Each class can do multiple buffs

#

You had to put some thought into it but you weren't screwed because you were missing a single class

viscid spear
glass tulip
viscid spear
glass tulip
#

im mad that monkaSteer got called feelsbumpyman 🤣

viscid spear
#

wdym?

#

It's just 1h vs 2h, bro

glass tulip
#

alright there we go

viscid spear
loud jungle
#

Guys I want to play assass in keys in 9.2 please kthx

viscid spear
#

Are you...asking for permission?

loud jungle
#

Yes. Give me pls

#

Don't tell me i'm inting for playing assass

harsh anchor
#

Play whatever you want

#

fun is bis

versed mica
#

U got my permission to play sin in keys

#

Ur welcome

loud jungle
#

you rock

versed mica
#

I try I try

bleak sky
#

tf

viscid spear
versed mica
#

Hey whispyr, have you simmed dn for sin next patch?

viscid spear
#

We need to sim Fun

loud jungle
#

Should I craft DS or just stick with Obedience for keys on live now?

#

I've done all 20's as sub (rogue is just alt) but I seriously prefer assass

#

Like, sub just feels so bleh

bleak sky
#

stick with obedience

loud jungle
#

Word.

bleak sky
#

and even if you weren't running obedience you'd run zoldycks/doomblade instead of deathly shadows

loud jungle
#

I really wish I liked sub more but

#

Something about assass just tickles my fancy more

bleak sky
#

it's a fun spec for sure

sonic schooner
#

Wonder why u love ass ass

glass tulip
sonic schooner
#

šŸ™„

loud jungle
#

ass ass is my JAM

glass tulip
#

yeah if you meant dashing scoundrel dont craft that for keys

#

was purely run to boost the frost bonus in raid

loud jungle
#

Yeah that makes sense.

#

Lethal Poisons or Poisoned Katar for keys?

#

they have similar n values for 28's

#

just doing 24-25's, i'd assume it just comes down to comp

oak sky
#

doesnt make a huge difference but generally people will play triple potency lashing/sf lp wps because wps does something in single target and pk does nothing

loud jungle
#

Yeah makes sense. So just run LP and let mage / whoever handle aoe

#

FOK is kinda meh anyway right?

oak sky
#

yeah

#

theyre all pretty similar value tbh none of our conduits are that insane

loud jungle
#

LS is probably the most I'd assume

#

without simming

oak sky
#

ye lashing is the best conduit in all content basically

versed mica
bleak sky
#

what's LMB starege

glass tulip
versed mica
#

LICK MY BALLS GOTEM

#

This has been a funny moment thank you for playing

glass tulip
#

left mouse button

#

smh my head

versed mica
#

Lmfao

#

Which Sims higher, left or right mouse button

bleak sky
#

foot pedal sims higher

versed mica
#

I'm exclusively playing clicker build so

glass tulip
#

my gf is a clicker pepehands

versed mica
#

Not even trolling I am a clicker

#

What her numba

glass tulip
#

but are you a good clicker

versed mica
#

Decent enough, I am casual and only do heroic raiding and I get purple/orange parses

glass tulip
#

good enough id say

versed mica
#

Idk I didn't even know that I could play with the keys until like WoD and I've played since vanilla as a kiddo

viscid spear
versed mica
#

Big brain

#

I've tried to swap to keyboard but it's too hard to relearn without sucking for days so here I am lmao

#

I literally customize my ui so much to make it easier as a clicker

glass tulip
versed mica
#

Joellama

#

Roasted hard

glass tulip
echo geyser
#

also do u play sin mostly ?

versed mica
#

Can't atm cuz at work

#

I play sin and outlaw

glass tulip
#

mr ramfam peepoHappy

versed mica
#

Just w/e I feel like playing

echo geyser
#

not necro outlaw right

versed mica
#

Naw lmao

bleak sky
#

do you like it

oak sky
#

blas0n pilled

echo geyser
#

i love the colors u got going on

versed mica
#

I sometimes do in keys and I can sort of do it okay, but I rely too much on tab tar

echo geyser
#

yeah was about to say u cant rly play with mouseover macros for sbs/mfd

#

if u have to click ur spells

glass tulip
#

why are there 1000 sacs on the UI

bleak sky
glass tulip
#

do you click which person it goes on

#

wack

bleak sky
#

this is a classic video I feel mav

versed mica
#

Ye, on days when I'm not tired I can play okay but if I'm tired I make a lot of mistakes

bleak sky
#

have fun mav

versed mica
#

I usually play kyrian outlaw

glass tulip
#

thats nuts actually

slow marsh
echo geyser
#

i member watching bm hunter in BFA with Clicker UI, its just HUGE buttons

#

multi shot every 4 sec

bleak sky
#

./cast mutilate
./cast slice and dice
./cast mutilate
./cast garrote

#

that's my opener

nocturne geode
#

exsangery why are my eyes bleedingexsangery

echo geyser
bleak sky
#

playing outlaw clicking sounds painful my friend

echo geyser
#

im mostly a clicker too, side mouse buttons tho

versed mica
#

For minor movement I keyboard turn. I used to use a slash command that sped up my keyboard turning, but people using it to spin at high speed and using the arena glitch to MC enemies and spin to change their spin speed made blizzard change it and it's broke now

#

Outlaw clicking is so much fun

echo geyser
#

kinda like OSU right

versed mica
#

But yeah, before that slash command and after it broke, I just do quick pauses to move my mouse up a bit from my bars and use right click and jumps to momentum myself in directions I want to go very quickly before returning to my rotation

#

Obviously this means some downtime inevitably but I've gotten good at minimizing it

#

OSU?

echo geyser
#

high apm clicking/tracking game

versed mica
#

Oh right

#

Yeah like that lmao

#

The real challenge is keeping an eye on what's going on during boss fights while doing this at the same time

#

It's quite fun imo, but it's all I know

hollow river
versed mica
#

I've tried it but I get frustrated easy lol

#

I am big brain

hollow river
#

just gotta take it slow, try bit by bit. can customize it to make it comfortable for you.

versed mica
#

Probs. Maybe one day

hollow river
#

practicing at target dummies helps a ton so you don't get mental overload during content

versed mica
#

I actually never thought about using training dummies

#

Big brain moment once again

hollow river
#

i'm slowly acclimating myself to shift and ctrl modifiers, those still are kinda meh imo. i just use as few as possible

#

but i also have an MMO mouse

oak sky
#

i like shift best

#

control and alt are very situational for me

echo geyser
#

yeah shift for sure my most common one

bleak sky
#

ctrl for defensives, shift for movement/damage cds

oak sky
#

aw fuck i cant get all my leggo patterns for mage because i dont have ilvl to do lfr

bleak sky
#

just buy 200 gear

oak sky
#

i can send korthia gear

bleak sky
#

should take like 15k gold max to get you to lfr gear

#

or valor gear yeah

oak sky
#

oh yeah valor

#

ill do that

#

mage is a 180 ilvl beefer now

#

bought 8 boxes only 3 i couldnt use

bleak sky
#

not bad

#

hit me up and I'll try to skip queue you for lfr

oak sky
#

lmao

#

u online rn?

#

im gonna do mists before i do lfr actually

bleak sky
#

yeah just dm me wheneverr

oak sky
#

i need DC skb and the frozen orb leggo

nocturne geode
#

any gnome rogues in chat

oak sky
#

under no circumstances

nocturne geode
fathom swift
#

gnome was bis for dispelling the dumb corruption slow

glass tulip
bleak sky
#

alt is just for alt f4

glass tulip
#

alt + mb5 = tricks

#

q stealth
shift q vanish
alt q shroud

versed mica
#

no q strafing
peepomad

balmy condor
#

Q strafing is rebound to A

#

You fucking weirdo

versed mica
#

Rebound to dn

surreal prism
#

You mean y'all don't have strafe bound to z and x and move with the mouse buttons?

balmy condor
viscid spear
#

I move with a laptop trackpad

fathom swift
#

yeah who would move with mouse buttons, i need that to click my abilities

balmy condor
#

I use a widescreen monitor with a regular aspect ratio so I can put my action bars into the black bars at the top and bottom

#

And scale them up to 300%

balmy condor
#

Do you have any last words

fathom swift
#

it sickens me that there are people who would actually do that

balmy condor
#

Final meal?

echo geyser
#

šŸ’€ did u rly mute for having shit binds?

balmy condor
echo geyser
viscid spear
#

I click my abilities using a Native American smoke signal

sand sigil
#

equipping z and x as strafe and unbinding move forwards and backwards is +1k overall

balmy condor
#

Thems like osu keybinds

lucid birch
#

yeah but then hes like "reckful did it" and everyones like "respect man, thats so cool" pepeclown

balmy condor
#

I would be too with those binds

lucid birch
balmy condor
#

Too soon? kekw

alpine latch
#

@bleak sky Made it to 2350!

sand sigil
alpine latch
#

We got 5 portals this week

bleak sky
#

tomorrow is huge IO day

#

go get it

alpine latch
#

Is next week decent?

bleak sky
#

best tyrannical week in the cycle

surreal prism
#

Next 2 weeks are super good weeks

alpine latch
#

Noice... okay

#

We just need ToP, SD, and PF

#

We ripped 2 PF keys this week being fucking stupid

bleak sky
#

stupidity is truly a key breaker

glass tulip
alpine latch
#

I was so triggered

balmy condor
alpine latch
#

Do any of you guys have a MDT version of the PF skip route?

#

To skip the first room entirely

glass tulip
#

I can make one real quick

alpine latch
#

ā¤ļø

tulip kernel
#

!guide

alpine latch
#

Do you guys pull the slimes on the basement?

glass tulip
#

depends on what level

#

for anything below a 20 I do not

alpine latch
#

@echo geyser help me sir

#

I wanna be good

#

I'll murder entire villages if I have to

echo geyser
#

i just misclicked b to open my bags

#

had discord open sorry

alpine latch
#

😦

echo geyser
#

i mean playing the slimes is good if u struggle on last boss

#

they give u 10% DR and 25% haste buff if u have a necro

glass tulip
#

how do I make a little box to paste the export into

surreal prism
#

triple `

glass tulip
#

anyway, this is a basic PF route, only first skip, no last slime pull

#

!Tv12UTnmm0VN9wKKVi)6w3a6WGxb8a2EsOoXsDE11UirUxEPF7tK0wwsoaoTXuKhEi5HkkM6xQMN66)6y7XbDN6OQ500W057Ah0wR(2rZe4r7SD6lG9(XhuFoXNU3u1zkRQXQFZ93xFTDS79pU)zZh3ZrWbeoQFyUFacVMPAmN16)on0f9Y3N6hrkaGO1pIho33PA(rw53U5X)KF7V)KQ5L2Hzna5P5ZN1J27Mhgu1CU3qZSRuErdgvnN7n2FAmx02lUyQH61cjyX3BMhFqpnI1GGdLG(jGKU(Wf9G(KTFAKIdYGlUNDzZJe1hCvGrOngxxGT4ldtIl)B(aEuPHo1IlvW5WJamcpsvDU7GcvT7HvQQDpvOzMe)gC6HLpaJG)dyaWjiBSmeqwobsb5bag6HKocsE5caWOdmUYCIvi)fj1OqJqUvJuCOVyD5am8WYO3KjPa4PaNfRDOkSlwSczEu6nhH0VMDK1C2vtqoIEgbcfq5vdJOrEehG6eBqHUWcMscecE8KUmPtbtAUiIpfbyeBmSvjc7)YOEkL4SWs2xjcFjV1gKOTkspWO8EatmPWktQBxV3c(hwjvytxufxTSdrcBs8Z3lHQ5fjbI81Z6s0tzS6GhqRwgooSO597Bczc8c1(foF)lE2xTesweJkIgU8OoEiXw2gw3asLW8YeIvO2lL9nmCW6ZcP4400wgKBVmPmIEYev2EXShAS6eX6PQG3wNd7uYYWwOhUC8TdjLkcOG5JiEzFdRQTHVNeL(AyJMfQRTKsIvA2kOB1jOT4f5BuIaFfqBQ2EvsKQMfcvOAMrBV5Rfe9LTRPf46gDFT7j8wAgjQP7DHvXm6ZYvX7VLg4AwCtLhQ(xwkQf5roH)SwxVX0FAEW(osGMPJ)Z9Jyxu0nQQ)d

alpine latch
#

okay cool. That definitely works

thorny pond
#

Uh sir, I think that’s spam

glass tulip
#

I wasnt advertising mr blizzard monkaMega

thorny pond
#

I’m not a cartographer but that’s no map

viscid spear
#

I see a swear logs

alpine latch
#

Y'all hatin

#

My guy helped me out

#

Ramfan is trolling me saying he wasn't helping and he meant to open his bags

#

😢

#

If I wanted to be treated like this I'd call my mom

spice spire
#

he's right tho

#

if you have issues with survival or damage on last boss, slimes good. On fortified weeks, I haven't been pulling them

alpine latch
#

yeah

#

We smashed a 19 on Tyr

#

But our 20s on Fort weeks have sucked

#

Our tank either "tries something new" or our pug DPS does like 4.5k DPS

#

We get shit like this

#

Where are 2300 Boomie does 900 DPS more than the tank

spice spire
#

Unfort

subtle kiln
#

grab a mage or something

bleak sky
#

ye boomies need route

#

and that sucks

#

hate pulling around boomies

drifting cloud
#

I mean hes nf and doing 4.5k dps, dont think route is the problem starege

bleak sky
#

oh nf

subtle kiln
#

tbf the healer, hunter and tank look like they werent doing orbs and that was probably a bigger issue

spice spire
#

NF monkaGIGA

#

I’d understand if venthyr

#

But holy moly

brazen zodiac
#

sup quakeraoats

spice spire
#

Howdy vita

fathom flax
#

I am interpreting it right, the tipping point to swap to fae from venthyr is 4pc+double lego

#

Or is there a point slightly earlier that fae will claw ahead

spice spire
#

There may be, but I’m almost certain it’s just the 4pc that puts it ahead.
Iirc the base on the above just has the covenant legendary

#

But even at there, it’s within double digit dps

#

Even after, it’s such a small change from venthyr if you’re vibing with it.

slow marsh
#

We will probs start the tier as venthyr yes if that's what you're asking

spice spire
#

^

balmy condor
#

Real and true

#

Spreadsheet mythic sim bad

#

Simply do tactical reasoning

bleak sky
#

you can't play like a machine, feelcrafting is superior in every aspect

#

you mut on 2 targets, I fok on 2 targets, we are not the same

cerulean nest
#

imagine tactically ascertaining stat weights

balmy condor
#

I always go for vers

#

Because it says it increases all of my damage

#

And that’s what I want

surreal prism
#

Wait y'all don't run the calculations for sims in your heads? smh my head

surreal prism
#

Oh true

#

Sorry for stealing your job

glass tulip
#

Have you considered a better job

#

Like writing guides

slow marsh
#

Sorry I only make tactical feelcraft decisions

#

That's why I only play vigor

glass tulip
#

I feel attacked

balmy condor
spice spire
gusty mirage
#

and thats good right?

bleak sky
#

yes more damage = more good

spice spire
#

Why increase all of your damage when you can increase poison damage only tho HmmHmmHmm

gusty mirage
#

hear me out

#

if we stack mastery we increase bleed and poison damage

#

so its gotta be better in aoe right?

spice spire
#

GIGA actually HmmHmmHmm

bleak sky
#

we should just play mastery/vers honesttly

#

it's more damage and more damage

spice spire
gusty mirage
bleak sky
#

haste attacks faster = cringe
crit = luck = cringe

gusty mirage
bleak sky
#

based on what

spice spire
#

Also unironically mister minalba, di you ever sleep?

bleak sky
#

uh

spice spire
bleak sky
#

my sleep schedule is very fucked up right now

spice spire
#

Same

#

I’m waking up in 3 hours šŸ™‚

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

Yessir

errant hull
#

guys is it worth playing assassination or should i keep being a pirate

#

i havent played this game in 5 months

spice spire
#

What are you aiming to do?
Raid? Keys? And at what level?

errant hull
#

who the hell knows

#

prob keys for now

spice spire
#

Keys, sin is fun but the worst of all rogue specs.
You can still do mad damage.
Assassination is a fun spec, with fairly simplistic rules

#

So if you’re looking at solving carpal tunnel, it helps šŸ˜› .
But all rogue specs are playable rn . I’d recommend, but there’s a reason I’m in the assassination role šŸ˜›

bleak sky
#

sin in m+ is super fun

balmy condor
bleak sky
#

objectively fun not biased

balmy condor
#

That’s so bad

spice spire
#

True

#

4th best? Cringe shit

errant hull
#

pirate mains in shambles

slow marsh
#

4th best in what? Still capped specs?

balmy condor
#

Also love how we’re top of the wcl chart and still can’t get raid spots tho

#

That’s cool

spice spire
#

It was unironically a good rogue tier. There’s no wrong spec atm

spice spire
#

Can’t run any!!!

balmy condor
#

We were contemplating a 4th boomkin at some point during prog

#

But then a second rogue apped

#

ā€œSorry rogue no slotā€

spice spire
slow marsh
#

i cri

errant hull
#

chicken tastes better than rogue

spice spire
#

About to @ ur entire guild in here

balmy condor
#

They’ll tag me in the morning with it dw

#

Can’t even shit talk my own guild anymore they got shooters in the streets

spice spire
#

Don’t get me wrong boomkin highly valuable for pushing phases. But 4 Raisedeyebrowbutcat

spice spire
#

No one is safe

errant hull
#

haha purple star go pew

spice spire
#

Damn. Boomkins deadass want one thing and it’s disgusting

#

ā€œRampā€

balmy condor
#

True

#

I still top meters at the end of sylv though

#

Even against a PI’d boomkin

#

Stay mad chickens

spice spire
#

Rogues not meant for raid sorry king

#

Maybe next tier

balmy condor
#

+1.5-2k on p3 dps

#

Guess your 3min cd is too weak

#

Pls buff lmao bozo

slow marsh
#

Just eat the chicken iqds. Easy game

bleak sky
#

mistweavers wet dream

#

ohhhh did your iqd proc mana? oh no

junior rampart
#

Does it proc mana for healers? Lol

#

Never knew

balmy condor
#

If a healer is low mana

bleak sky
#

if there's someone low on mana it will proc mana

balmy condor
#

Any iqd will give them mana

#

Including boomkin iqd

bleak sky
#

low health = give them health

junior rampart
#

Yea I know about low health = give health.

balmy condor
#

Boomkins will scream about healer mana because muh parse

junior rampart
#

Lol boomkin shit is fun.

hexed frost
#

Is it ever worth popping IQD for execute?

#

I always get versa and sometimes crit

twilit python
#

if boss is like 2% hp and about to die then it'd be better

limber lion
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It was giga on Huntsman because of the damage amp

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It's more burst

polar willow
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whats 9.2 looking like lads? worth re-subbing? havent played since castle

limber lion
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Sometimes you need it

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9.2 looks great

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Hop on

burnt latch
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9.2 good 9.2.5 bad

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Ruining the immersion by forcing to play with alliance scum smh

limber lion
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Wow?

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Immersion?

burnt latch
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Im big into immersion, quit my guild cuz they wouldnt let me check the sylvanas cinematic on prog

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Really gets you going and hyped for that phase 2 imo!

normal mist
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Player immersion - everyone plays horde

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And it's optional

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You can choose to not have cross faction on

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Just like warmode

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So i don't think it's a big deal, the horde and the alliance have fought numerous times together for a greater good, so why not make it be a thing players can do? A bunch of people play horde not because they like the theme, the races or anything, but because they legit have no one to play with in the alliance

ebon prism
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But fuck alliance, m I right boys?

bleak sky
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alliance batchest

burnt latch
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Is a joke broski

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Alliance + horde very cool

normal mist
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I got jebaited

burnt latch
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Sadge sorry

normal mist
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Im barely awake, it's my bad brother

silver turtle
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Is sin rogue pretty good in m+?

oak sky
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its ok, worse than sub or outlaw but pretty solid

bleak sky
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sin good yes

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all rogues good yes

silver turtle
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Just trying to figure out what’s best for pushing high keys 20+

glass tulip
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Any spec of rogue is more than good enough to bang out 20s

silver turtle
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Well the goal is 25s-26s

glass tulip
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I would say the same is true, really. There are guys here who are doing 27s and 28s as Sin

silver turtle
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What’s assassin rogue job in a key. Mainly a boss killer right?

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Prio damage right?

bleak sky
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yep

glass tulip
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Prio damage, utility/control

bleak sky
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but like the best thing to push keys is playing whatever you're good at

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sin/sub/outlaw doesn't matter

sonic briar
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When running dustwalkers patch wots the cd of vendetta like

bleak sky
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little over a minute

hexed frost
quartz shadow
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Good

clever kindle
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its ok to be racist against gnomes

sudden hound
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Ally are even racist against gnomes

hollow river
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Until we’re all mechagnomes with the release of cross faction kekw

vast forum
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Why are ppl talking about hating gnomes when vulpera exist?

bleak sky
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because furries are way too prevalent in this game and they need to be purged

vast forum
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Exactly my point

bleak sky
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yeah so they won't turn against their people

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we have to make furries ashamed again

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kink shame furries

hollow river
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There’s always that one vulpeera in the guild

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Sussy Alliance fraternizers

spice spire
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Are-are you guys okay monkaGIGA

hollow river
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I’ll be okay if there’s a mythic Sylvanas dagger in my vault besad

bleak sky
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bless thy vaults prayge

hollow river
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Please blizzard prayge

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Let my search be over pepehands

alpine latch
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So yeah, if it's within 1-2%, I'm not going NF

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Made that decision last night

hollow river
limber lion
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Eww

alpine latch
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If it's close, I'm sticking to Venth and if it's not I'll swap

limber lion
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Imagine not wanting the best signature ability and covenant ability

hollow river
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I’m ready to be rid of the stack building ability