assassination

[radiant gale]

Farthest I'vew gotten so far is like 65%

[balmy condor]

you'll get it

[radiant gale]

I swear you do so much at the start of that vid lmao

[golden basalt]

take a few tries not using consumables and just practice the rhythm of the fight while trying to max out your dps

Then start incorporating drums and combat pots when you feel more comfortable

[radiant gale]

No drums for me. That's too much money lol

[golden basalt]

might be tough then, doable, but tough

[glass tulip]

if whispyr can do it without drums, anything is possible

[radiant gale]

Idk about that one chief

[golden basalt]

it’s whispyr tho

mans built different

[gusty mirage]

I did it without drums

and I suck

[golden basalt]

fair

[golden basalt]

If oxi can do it without drums so can you

[radiant gale]

I'm also timing myself but idk if I'm just slow or at pace for 65-70% at almost 3 minutes

[sweet frigate]

is there any script to check how many attempts i've done on a MT challenge? rly curious

[hollow river]

i've been keeping up with attempts by how many consumables i've used

but it's across all 3 specs

[sweet frigate]

i swear it should've been on the statistics page

[golden basalt]

hard to say, you kinda want to aim for having the jarl dead before 6 min

[glass tulip]

5 mins

you only want an overlap or two

[golden basalt]

The earlier the better i suppose

My kill was around 6:30 ish with 1.1k dps

so I know that I barely managed the dps check that time, haven’t tried anything after it

[nimble thicket]

Literally geared an enhance sham to be ready for 9.2 reroll if we don't get one the first few weeks of heroic clears before Mythic

[deep solstice]

hmm....it wants me to run obe over dashing

[slow marsh]

not surprising

[deep solstice]

It's still within like 20 dps

[thorny pond]

Obe sims higher for a lot of people. It recently flipped for me over dashing. It tends to gain value at higher gear levels, dashing doesn’t plateau but the crit becomes less impactful

[fleet anchor]

Well I think it's more that the Vers from Obedience interacts with a bunch of stuff like trinkets and daggers

[slow marsh]

with all the extra damage procs you get with more gear the vers becomes greater than the poison crits

ye

😛

[fleet anchor]

Jinx

[slow marsh]

pinch poke you owe me a coke

[outer cairn]

Finally

[gusty mirage]

congrats!

[hollow river]

hard work paid off 🙂

[slow marsh]

[outer cairn]

i'll stick with 1. screw a mount

[glass tulip]

he did it

[hollow river]

some of the other ones are a little easier, if you're at all familiar with the classes i mean

[outer cairn]

i still think it could use a bit of tuning. i know i'm not the greatest player, but damn

[glass tulip]

try a couple pulls of outlaw and then think of how much time you couldve saved

[hollow river]

[outer cairn]

haha. i'd be so pissed. but i heard outlaw can be rough because hardly any heals besides vial

[hollow river]

i find the outlaw one so cancer

[outer cairn]

if i remember i stopped trying on that one just after a few pulls back in legion because it was so hard to stay alive

and i never played it so i was happy with sin and sub

[hollow river]

i don't mind the sub one

just need to finish it

@spice spire

[outer cairn]

well they changing it so i think as long as you SS as soon as the stun wears off you won't get hit by ice or barely at all

[hollow river]

surprise 2 days off this Thursday and Friday

[outer cairn]

i may take a week off

[hollow river]

oh is that not already live?

[spice spire]

[outer cairn]

i thought it read it was for tuesday

[spice spire]

don't remind me mr. notrickz

I'm grustling gear rn

[near bane]

I think I'll pass on Assa, cant pull more then 900 dps

[hollow river]

[outer cairn]

i will say its hard and you gotta be aggressive, but then you gotta also stay alive. easily over 100 pulls

[hollow river]

you gonna do the sin one?

[spice spire]

yeah I pulled one try

and then went to vaults

lmao

[hollow river]

i've only pulled it a couple times

i'm smooth brain

[spice spire]

I've been living in vaults and court when I can log on

same

[hollow river]

i've got the dps ez

but i just die to Jarl's enrage

[spice spire]

just gotta not monkey axes and it's kind free ngl

first 15% is the hardest

then it

s just procedure

[hollow river]

do you just keep him perma k shot?

wouldn't that DR tho

[outer cairn]

i would kshot his enrage, when he's throwing axes, when he bladestorms. if i wanted him to stop chunking me i kshot him

[hollow river]

i kshot his very first enrage

but he just comes out of the kshot and decimates me lmao

[outer cairn]

i evasioned first to get it on cd so it was back up sooner

but it was primarily his axes that were my problem

[nocturne geode]

sadge

[hollow river]

we go agaaaane

gl

[nocturne geode]

lmfao

341 hp

F

[hollow river]

what trinkets/pots u using

[nocturne geode]

legion pots and faulty/an hp regen trink

[hollow river]

hmm

could try using IQD over the hp trink if you think you can live without it

but tbh man 341 hp you got it next time

ez

[nocturne geode]

yea just taking a break due to tilt

[strange python]

I would use fusion amp if you have it over faulty

[nocturne geode]

i dont have fusion unfort

[hollow river]

fusion amp is pretty bad in MT

[strange python]

Faulty seems to sim higher for sin and outlaw which I'm assuming is for frost set

[hollow river]

from what i could tell

[nimble thicket]

yup, it also lines up with 2min CDs and is for 30s

[nocturne geode]

tbf we used to have an extra interrupt to in legion

blood elf still silenced

i just remembered that

_<

[strange python]

I find sin challenge awful. If I end up going for the mount I'll probably do it as demo

Or something else

[hollow river]

ret seems to have it better on that fight iirc

[frosty cedar]

done the five DPS ones, sin one just have a macro for kidney angry dude and blind the spear one and u can't die from leech so u just kill them

[slow marsh]

another sylv kill and another no dagger in existance

[glass tulip]

I've heard lock is mega hard, would recommend enh sham, ret pal, or mage

[glass tulip]

imagine being CE

[slow marsh]

heroic

carry

even worse

it's like 20 something heroic kills with no dagger to be seen

[obtuse robin]

[prisma carbon]

[gusty mirage]

shoulda told me

I woulda came funneled you one

wouldn't even need a cut

[slow marsh]

shdw didn't get one either

[gusty mirage]

or is this houkan

[slow marsh]

houkan

[gusty mirage]

ah

[prisma carbon]

i had my loot spec set to outlaw bc i didn't wanna loot a dagger for my funnel

[gusty mirage]

ye after adois cancelled the sunday night carry I didn't bother signing up for anything

LMAO

[slow marsh]

omg

you shouldn't have even said anything bro

[gusty mirage]

Shdw was there when I had to trade one away

it was a feelsbadman

[slow marsh]

i thought for sure this was the run since we are funneling druid

[gusty mirage]

Shdw was also there when we both styled on that hof rogue that was 256 ilvl

[prisma carbon]

[slow marsh]

he was in my run last week too i'm kinda liking the vibe

i was gonna play outlaw but i decided to stay sin cuz the homie was playing sin

[prisma carbon]

we'll do outlaw next week

[gusty mirage]

you'll run into Tallac sometimes too

he's a homie as well

pirate boy

[prisma carbon]

i dont have veinripper tho

[gusty mirage]

I traded a mythic one away tuesday

[slow marsh]

i only have a heroic one

[prisma carbon]

think im next in line to get one since only people who need them in my guild are tanks

[gusty mirage]

@ember mural goes "guess you're an outlaw rogue now"

insta traded that shit

lmao

[slow marsh]

wow

you should've kept

[gusty mirage]

naw

it was for our enhancement shaman

[slow marsh]

you would've beat me when we played outlaw in speed runs

[gusty mirage]

wft > veinripper

[slow marsh]

tru

i would trade too in that case

[gusty mirage]

ye other peeps still needed it

otherwise I woulda kept it for tmog porpoises

🐬

[slow marsh]

I'm not opposed to playing outlaw in 9.2 right now if i get one

[obtuse robin]

[glass tulip]

If I was carrying and pulled one I would just take the suspension

worth it

https://twitter.com/icyveins/status/1470558620102373377?t=oNXE64frvtVo3crhewzuJw&s=19
there it is boys

Icy Veins (@icyveins)

Blizzard just announced that ALL Legion timewalking and not just the Mage Tower will be extended by 2 weeks!
#Shadowlands #Warcraft

https://t.co/Ygr05RPuey

Twitter · Dec 14, 2021, 12:57 AM

now you don't have to rush to get your trinkies and ring

[slow marsh]

yay no nerfs then

most likely

since they give a month for everyone to get them

[ember mural]

[gusty mirage]

desperate times for the homies

[strange python]

I gave one to our tank....

[craggy ruin]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8sUThWECXgTTatt9Sw4aSk

29 court of stars and 19 vault of warden :,

so intense

[glass tulip]

29

I think that was my amount as well

[gusty mirage]

5 courts - got ring traded to me

32 vaults

still nothin

@tight ginkgo is up to like 50

[glass tulip]

good thing you have 3 more weeks

[gusty mirage]

I hope it gets nerfed into the ground for that comment

[copper sundial]

i got it on run 34 oxi

surely 2 more runs and ur good

[slow marsh]

Why would they open it up for +2 weeks just to nerf it to the ground nerd

[tight ginkgo]

wait

im going to do this shit for 3 more weeks?

[arctic walrus]

it's getting nerfed bro

just dont

[kind talon]

no shot

fuck a nerf

[distant mist]

Inb4 last day of week 4 trinket drops

[kind talon]

where is my blp bro

[nimble thicket]

I'm at 20 Vault and 15 Courts and nothing

[glass tulip]

cant wait to farm all of them again in April at 272 ilvl

[nimble thicket]

I have tuned it down for that reason

[distant mist]

My sanity will be fine when it comes back around

[toxic quail]

no idea how many runs i have each but ive ran 92 dungeons between the 2 and no ring or trinket but ive seen a lot

so im having a great time

[misty holly]

And they announce 9.2 releasing on Feb 8 so your guild takes off January raids so people get a break.

Never get a chance to use it 😦

[true lark]

hey guys is necrods covenant ability like to good to pass up? seems like its always up/multiple charges , ranged combo generator, is it spamed? are any others more fun

[balmy condor]

looking at right now, it's okay, but outside of aoe, it's pretty much not good, and venth will be better

but aside from that it's basically spam

[glass tulip]

its fun in pvp

[true lark]

serrated bone spike?

[soft shale]

serrated could be good if affected by the 4 set or 2 set

but still they have to change deathspike

[fleet anchor]

Yeah I mean I played Necro all of CN and prog for SoD. I think it’s great and a lot of fun. But things definitely aren’t trending great for it at this point.

Unless they redesign the legendary I don’t see how it’s remotely viable for 9.2

Basically goes from being within 1-2% historically to suddenly being like 8% behind lol

Deathspike is just awful

[ebon notch]

Bruh the assa challenge was not as bad as I thought it would be

Probably the easier of the 3

[misty holly]

This makes me so upset. We need a necrolord rogue on the community council to bring this up.

Deathspike needs to hit primary target twice if nothing else is in range.

That might fix it.

[ebon notch]

Was this hypothetical or real

[balmy condor]

it won't be, don't worry

[fleet anchor]

I mean it’s not a matter of if SBS is good. It’s just a matter of only running one legendary instead of two.

Way more important haha

Other specs let’s just get a casual 10-13% from the extra legendary. Necro Rogues, you get 0%. Ok.

[fleet anchor]

I mean this would be better than nothing but still quite weak.

It’s really not even great in AoE at this point because of the bugs.

[balmy condor]

also community council

[shut garnet]

are any class tcers on the council even

[balmy condor]

not to my knowledge

[shut garnet]

classic

[balmy condor]

it's not meant for class feedback from what it looks like

but then again

it looks like a fucking mess

so

[cerulean nest]

is it timewalking too? or just mage tower that's getting extended

[shut garnet]

its everything

[cerulean nest]

oh thank god

[shut garnet]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/all-of-legion-timewalking-extended-until-january-4th-325301?webhook

[cerulean nest]

amazing

my non-countermeasure anxiety was growing

[shut garnet]

it’ll be back again before the next tier anyways most likely

[fleet anchor]

I think Monks got someone in but that’s the only one I know about.

I think they kinda purposefully avoided it tbh

[round cargo]

do i want to get 5 combos point before shiv or just ignore it?

[glass tulip]

the most optimal way would usually be to have 4 and shiv for 5? But being at 5 is not really that much of a loss since that 1 combo point isn't important

[oak sky]

doesnt matter use on cooldown

[gusty mirage]

^

[glass tulip]

you just want to envenom directly after to get the most casts in the buff timer as possible

[gusty mirage]

slam that baby on cd

[oak sky]

if you have an opportunity to set it up to not be at 5cp you should, but its more damage to just send on cd than to ever hold it

[round cargo]

kk

also convenant ability or vendetta?

which do i use first or does it not matter

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
RH: https://www.ravenholdt.net/guides/assassination-rogue-guide-shadowlands-raid-dps/
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[arctic walrus]

!guide

pick your favorite

[round cargo]

was just curious if it mattered

[spice spire]

Sequencing matters on the opener, but that’s covered in the FAQ and guides

[round cargo]

kk

[cerulean nest]

and it's that easy kids

[glass tulip]

lets go

easy

[round cargo]

what happened?

are the legion trinkets actually broken lol?

[gusty mirage]

I'm both happy for you and I also hate you

at the same time

I hope you're happy

[cerulean nest]

im happy enough to compensate for the both of us

had a pally friend who was just gonna run one with me, ending up staying for a couple more quick 2s, he got it on the very last one

what a guy

[round cargo]

is it op or...

im a newb

[cerulean nest]

yes

[round cargo]

freckkkkkkkkkkkkk

welp guess ill farm that as well

[glass tulip]

@gusty mirage thanks for gift sub to whispyr btw :)

[gusty mirage]

I had a full group of 4 running with me to funnel for like 8 runs in a row

[gusty mirage]

[cerulean nest]

elitist

[gusty mirage]

my guild and my friends list felt bad for me

idk if its elitism my friend

[cerulean nest]

lol that actually sucks though

luckily you have 3 more weeks

[toxic quail]

102 runs later in Court and Vault

[gusty mirage]

one of my officers goes "Did you get the trinket yet? You've been in vault of the wardens since reset"

😐

[glass tulip]

[gusty mirage]

so he came around and set loot spec to feral for lmao

[gusty mirage]

well you did it

you beat the game

[cerulean nest]

show us the sim though

[hallow sage]

no court trinket tho? smh my head

[toxic quail]

i got the court one too ;p

wrong thing

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5LVEdqQMtmGg6YdoQdT6Em

[spark scaffold]

thats with crit tea innit

[gusty mirage]

too late

[cerulean nest]

hawt

[gusty mirage]

I already have the logs

I'm extracting your secret tech

[toxic quail]

hahaha dont do it!

[solid mica]

how do you know if you hit enrage? does jarl just not come out of his enrage thing?

[spark scaffold]

soft enrage is when they start casting at the same time all 3

and hard enrage sigryn just smacks you for half hp

[scenic root]

Still a rogue main at heart

[glacial bough]

how am i supposed to use vendetta and vanish?

[balmy condor]

Every 2 minutes ideally

[glacial bough]

do i wanna like flang, vendetta, then vanish?

idk how to go about all dat lol

[balmy condor]

You want to vanish during shiv, during vendetta

Flag beforehand

But vendetta is off the gcd so you can just send that whenever tbh

[glacial bough]

so i could like build to 5, flang, rupture, vendetta shiv vanish and go ham

[balmy condor]

Yeh

Sounds good to me

[tidal gorge]

FLANG

[glacial bough]

SAY LESSSS

im about to be the best

[misty holly]

Only ring I've seen drop yet the healer shaman got. Then gave to the Paladin tank since he didn't want it.

2 rogues and a DH were standing there jaw dropped as they left the group

[strange python]

finally did the mage tower, was way harder than i remembered

[twilit hollow]

Countermeasure avoiding nerf bat

[dawn ivy]

no shot it avoids the nerf bat by the time 9.2 comes out

theyll wait for timewalking to be over to nerf all the items so they have already locked in all of our TW playtime for the next month

[glass tulip]

F

[balmy condor]

rip whetstone

[twilit hollow]

how bad was mark of dargrul before

like so bad 500% doesnt make it usable?

[prisma carbon]

did they kill the aoe trinket from court

[balmy condor]

yes

[prisma carbon]

ok now i just farm the other 2 items

[balmy condor]

who knows

[dawn ivy]

good thing thats the only item ive looted in the pool of Vault trinket, Cos ring/trinket :))))

[balmy condor]

cos trinket is probably fine

just not crazy

[thin trout]

oeh trinket buffs

[balmy condor]

nerfs

[thin trout]

rip

[balmy condor]

honestly with the fix the ring, that might not be worth it either

[misty holly]

ring was nerfed?

[balmy condor]

ring is bugged

[solid mica]

if we've already done one of the mage towers and we finisht the second can we just leave? there wasn't like an achieve or anything

[balmy condor]

nop

achieves are for beating any 1, beating all 7, and beating all 36 specs

[dawn ivy]

the bugfix is only like -20ish dps though right?

[solid mica]

aight

[dawn ivy]

not bugfix, the apl update

[balmy condor]

yeh

and it's about that for some bis profiles

[thin trout]

in what way?

[balmy condor]

in the way that koji talked about in #tc-research earlier

[dawn ivy]

im still gonna need it if its a 70 dps increase either way T.T

[vestal wren]

you can luckily just sim it (make sure to use nightly tho)

[dawn ivy]

that wowhead post was for aoe trinkets only so that means they can still nerf single target trinkets

[vestal wren]

i am fairly certain they will at least tune down countermeasure a bit

[balmy condor]

dargul buff seems to put it about on par with fusion amp

for dslice

so dunno

probably the new aoe trinket

[fleet anchor]

iirc from using it in Legion the AoE cone is really narrow

[balmy condor]

yeh

would have to actually hit

but the damage itself seems okay

[fleet anchor]

It's like 15y "long" but it's basically a straight line in front of you

Still could be good for sure though, they didn't indicate if that one split as well

I would assume not unless they say otherwise

[umbral rapids]

looked like it split no?

[bronze pike]

Proc rate?

[umbral rapids]

i understood it as that one is 500% and others are 50% buffed dam

but they're all split

[balmy condor]

if it's split it's still garbage

[umbral rapids]

that's how i read it

[fleet anchor]

I may have an old one sitting around in one of my banks that I can test tomorrow

[umbral rapids]

of course you do

[fleet anchor]

Believe I have one on my DH

[gaunt halo]

It's just absolutely frustrating to farm items for 50+ runs to have them nerfed. And yes I know they announced they're looking into it. But now I'm in the same situation as before, unsure whether it's worth farming countermeasure or not. It just sucks to not now whether a nerf is coming or not. Wouldn't be a problem if these wouldn't have limited availability

[bronze pike]

I mean, they haven’t nerfed it yet

[fleet anchor]

It was always kinda an annoying trinket, I remember trying it for a while in Legion and I remember it having a tendency to miss things lol

[bronze pike]

Imma farm it all week tomorrow so, it’s better to safe than sorry tbh. If you have the willpower to do it

If not, you can always say you made the attempt lol

[gaunt halo]

Dargul one works like decanter if I remember right. Ao it can miss if you turned your camera at a bad time

[fleet anchor]

yeah

It's basically physical Decanter, probably a good comparison. Maybe a little more narrow though.

[gaunt halo]

With the 500% dmg buff the tooltip damage should be about on par with decanter so I assume it will be kinda similar

[fleet anchor]

It's 4 RPPM instead of 2 RPPM, but has an ICD and is physical. Should make it a fair bit better than Decanter though with about the same base damage. Double proc rate more than compensates for armor.

Might be pretty decent, hard to say. Depends on how much it misses lol

[umbral rapids]

koji just tell me it's bad so i don't have to spam lair

[fleet anchor]

It's super duper bad because it comes from Lair

Since it's not until realm restarts won't have the exact hotfix data until tomorrow

So we'll see what the numbers look like in the morning

[umbral rapids]

[hoary crown]

Yo! How much haste is needed for assa to feel smooth and not clunky ? 🤔

[vast forum]

~60%

Assa always feels clunky compared to buttonmash specs

But pooling properly is part of the skill of the spec

[balmy condor]

You’re better off picking a different spec

[eternal vortex]

in mage tower is it worth to switch to legion artifact wep or just go with SL daggers? i only have 233 daggers tho

[balmy condor]

Legion artifact weapon wouldn’t give you anything special

[eternal vortex]

stats are not better on them scaling wise?

[strange python]

You just pool for shiv I guess

[charred wraith]

You pool in general for each finisher if you arent overcappin energy

[versed mica]

But whispyyyyyyyr at 25% haste it just feeeeeeels betteeeeeer

[tribal mauve]

only 25 ? i only feel good during lust + all cd

[timid cloud]

Only during lust / CD? I only feel good during lust, CD, windfury, PI, & KA

[versed mica]

sorry i mistyped, I meant 250% haste

[timid cloud]

LOL

[craggy ruin]

Lads, how much time lasts the Dashing Scoundrel buff?

[gusty mirage]

It’s tied to the envenom buff uptime

[craggy ruin]

ahhhhhhhhhhh

okok

[night bronze]

Hey guys I just read on Reddit a guy complete all 36 chall mt he did rogue ones on lvl 52 anyone know why it's easier ? Scaling I guess

[elfin chasm]

windscar whetstone is not that strong? my shadowsgrasp totem did more damage :3

in dummy

[limber lion]

It's an aoe trinket

[strange python]

@night bronze who says they are easier at 52 though? Has anyone actuallly compared?

Maybe his rogue just happened to be level 52.

[night bronze]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/rg146k/completed_all_36_mage_towers/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

This guy

[strange python]

Where does he say it's easier?

Rogue at level 52
Rest were 60s
Biggest Struggles were Bear, HPriest, Destruction and Unholy DK```

I just read it as that's what level his mage, DH, and rogue were - the rest he happened to have a level 60 to do them on?

[night bronze]

Idk that's why I'm asking here if anyone completed lvl 52 too 🤷

Maybe he just stop lvl his rogue like you said

[subtle tundra]

You're just reading too much into it

[strange python]

oh - I read it as you saying it was definitely easier - and does anyone know why.

Yeah I don't think there's much to it

[marble hemlock]

Psure its more difficult as you're actually lacking some abilities

i.e doing assa challenge at 52 means you dont have cut to the chase, imp snd or the damage bonus from shiv

[vast forum]

It can be easier to use lower ilvl gear but it's definitely not the level

For example i did the disc priest challenge on my lvl 50 priest because it had nyalotha gear with crit haste and good trinkets, while my 60 priest had full pvp gear with no real trinkets

Missing pi wasn't a big deal

[strange python]

oh dang reset day isn't it

I get my Golad today

[vast forum]

Reset day is tomorrow for real gamers

Aka eu

[strange python]

[timid cloud]

So the nerfs sim adjustments to the ring are already in the nightly?

I guess it's time to re-sim.

[steel bane]

did they actually nerf it? didn't see anything on the notes

[timid cloud]

#tc-research

[hollow river]

So are these trinket nerfs or buffs?

To whetstone for example

[vestal wren]

its a nerf

[timid cloud]

Pretty sure that's a nerf.

Since that's a target cap basically.

[hollow river]

Was it not splitting its damage properly

[vestal wren]

what blizz does is basically change the trinket behavior to what we have in sl

[hollow river]

Ah

[vestal wren]

because legion trinkets use the old design more or less

it opens a up a discussion about what system is more healthy for the game as the old design was easier to understand

but also made those trinkets do a lot more damage

[dawn ivy]

did koji do a sim for the 4pc tier set if it DOES work with DP

i assume its not going to budge much

[hollow river]

I see

[marble hemlock]

tbf, whetstone was trash in legion cuz it was targetcapped

[deep solstice]

WTB countermeasure nerf so I don't have to go back to legion m+ prison

[spice spire]

Sorry king, we’re back to vaults

[thorny pond]

morning kings

[hollow river]

Gm

[vestal wren]

play subtlety and you are fine without it

[hollow river]

[junior rampart]

Is spiked counterweight any good from Black rock hold?

[hollow river]

May all your vault dungeons and weekly vaults be blessed

[subtle tundra]

Well, this week is push week so no way I can farm votw

[spice spire]

Who needs sleep tho

[subtle tundra]

True holidays starting

[hollow river]

No sleep allowed

[spice spire]

“Sorry guys, can’t make it to Christmas, it’s a push week”

[subtle tundra]

Well, yea

[hollow river]

[subtle tundra]

Sorry family

[hollow river]

[subtle tundra]

Gotta do those tyrannical keys

[hollow river]

You only Christmas present is wow loot

[spice spire]

“This io isn’t farming itself”

[hollow river]

Get to work laddie

[spice spire]

It’s the gift of 3k

[subtle tundra]

I'm farming 3k io for Christmas present

[thorny pond]

👨‍🌾

[hollow river]

[spice spire]

Mr prophet, what awaits us this week

[thorny pond]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-nothing-magic-conch-magic-concha-gif-5340147

[spice spire]

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

That’s every Christmas for me

@spice spire can you predict they’ll nerf countermeasure so I can stop doing vault of the wardens

[verbal mantle]

they'll nerf countermeasure

[thorny pond]

nah

[gusty mirage]

I’m FREE

[thorny pond]

They seem to actually want people to use the TW trinkets

[gusty mirage]

Why are you hurting me like this?

[thorny pond]

Because you now have 3 more weeks of farming

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-5323316

[gusty mirage]

[charred wraith]

Did they extend legion m+ as well?

[gusty mirage]

Yes

Until Jan 5th or whatever day it is

[charred wraith]

Thought it was only MT

[gusty mirage]

They announced it yesterday

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/eu/all-of-legion-timewalking-extended-an-additional-two-weeks-331484

[charred wraith]

Thanks

[gusty mirage]

[thorny pond]

So whoever told the druids to give rogues KA, I owe you something

[spice spire]

I’ll take a nice 10k mr. beach

Dw

[gusty mirage]

Told you that shit was bananas

[thorny pond]

Yea, I hadn't even played sin on the nine seriously until yesterday so no good opener etc and it was bonkers

[gusty mirage]

8% baseline crit and 16% when empowered

And MA window is kinda irrelevant

[spice spire]

Yeah shits a literal free 1k if Necrolord and way more when venthyr

[thorny pond]

I threw on TOG as well

[spice spire]

Nutters

[thorny pond]

just stacked the crit

[spice spire]

Wdym there’s no shot I’ll hit a 3 cp mut bow

[thorny pond]

felt like sub flag when I hit 30 stacks

still ended up wiping on FS forever though

[gusty mirage]

Every time I hear this I’m more and more impressed by this new guild I’m in

4 shotting fatescribe is impressive af

[thorny pond]

We have an easier time with Sylv and KT rekills

One shot PS. Wipes to Nerzhul and Eye

FS takes our lunch money

[plain thistle]

just kill it before runes on p3 🙂

easy fight

[thorny pond]

We don't hold we just full send that fight

Fine with me. Nothing worse than getting stop called right after sending Vend or symbols

[grand ridge]

yay grats dude

[elfin chasm]

are we still able to use frost set in 9.2? cuz its not in maw anymore??

[gusty mirage]

No

It’ll be a sad day for us

[elfin chasm]

sadd

[gusty mirage]

[thorny pond]

mastery haste spec now with NF overlords

[gusty mirage]

[thorny pond]

Sorry I was cosplaying as Osh

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

[hollow river]

We all know what’s coming

They can try and fight it all they want

[thorny pond]

About to be "Benchedpatrol"

[hollow river]

We will prevail

[thorny pond]

I hope mang

[hollow river]

Tbh if I don’t get CE this tier I will probably be sitting myself

[nocturne geode]

ive been getting KA buff as necro big vers

🙂

@thorny pond

[gusty mirage]

I’m already benched

[thorny pond]

yea for my attitude

[outer cairn]

Are we primarily staying Venth for 9.2 with the tier set or if going bleed build possibly Necro?

[gusty mirage]

Imagine wasting KA as necro smh

Unless they manage to make deathspike not hot ass garbage in single target

We’re going venthyr

[outer cairn]

Maybe they should let us stack all 3 charges…..

[thorny pond]

wut

no

[gusty mirage]

That would be a good way to make it less trash on ST

@marble hemlock was pondering a way to “fix” deathspike in ST

[outer cairn]

I mean maybe not full damage, but additional stacks provides more so it’s worth while?

[gusty mirage]

And having it stack would be a good fix imo

[outer cairn]

I’ve not played Necro but I do need to level it for my rogue.

[gusty mirage]

3 stacks of sbs bleed on a target wouldn’t be grossly overpowered at all

[marble hemlock]

pondering you say

[gusty mirage]

It’ll tick for what? 1k?

[marble hemlock]

but yeah, imo if it could stack multiple times on the same target (and also generate extra CP per stack ,not just per debuff) would make it essentially a mfd on st

[outer cairn]

And from what I read the tier set was bugged and causing sbs to tick again like before? Maybe it doesn’t tick but the 2 piece still buffs it? That way it’s good for 1-3 targets

Tick faster^

[gusty mirage]

2pc does affect sbs from my testing

[outer cairn]

Right. But maybe it should

To buff it a bit

[marble hemlock]

probably wont affect sudden fractures tho

[outer cairn]

Just throwing out ideas to make it competitive

[gusty mirage]

It doesn’t

[marble hemlock]

kinda sad

[dawn ivy]

we gotta see tonights build with more bugfixes and potential shakeups

[marble hemlock]

would actually be a decent conduit

if it worked with some of the stuff

[gusty mirage]

Ye SF is kinda disappointing as a whole tbh

[outer cairn]

Imagine having SBS on Sig fight 😳

[gusty mirage]

Seli didn’t have to

Wait did I read that as slg

[marble hemlock]

stop chatting and get back into vault

who let you out anyway

[gusty mirage]

I’m at work

[outer cairn]

Yes I meant Sigryn lol

Necro OP constant bleeds the entire fight.

[dawn ivy]

5 stack +2 CoS spammed for about 2 hours stragith and all we got was like 8 whetstones

so shit lmao

had to have been over 15 keys

[outer cairn]

I’m just hoping this Spirit of Harmony flip works to make some more gold…..

[gusty mirage]

Next time bring me and I can trade you the ring

I have a certain set of wow luck, after I acquire an item it drops constantly

[outer cairn]

I have unluck. Weapons are the last thing to drop lol

[gusty mirage]

23 heroic sylv kills, only seen heroic edge twice

[outer cairn]

I have one

And a normal

But I’m still missing some heroic gear that I know I won’t get in mythic. Only a casual mythic guild so not pushing for CE. Which is fine for me considering how life is right now.

[spice spire]

Peasant

[gusty mirage]

Sorry can’t hear you from all the way down there

Can you speak up Mr. Necrolord?

[timid cloud]

My buyer got it on his first try...

Right in front of me...

[vestal wren]

gz to him

[timid cloud]

I guess so...I called It in the Discord too. It’s alright this week is my Mitico daggy.

I bless all my sin kings.

[echo cargo]

Wait they’re buffing windscar

[timid cloud]

Oxi especially since he called my first one.

[strange python]

No faulty nerf?

[spice spire]

Faulty check

[solid venture]

buffing dmg but giving it a target cap tho

[vestal wren]

what means its actually a nerf in aoe 😉

[hollow river]

Kinda covenantist ngl

[solid venture]

i mean it'll probably be good in dungeons where you can't really pull big like theater

[gusty mirage]

Likewise?

CoS ring check? @spice spire

[vestal wren]

i thought you stopped with runs oxi

still going?

[gusty mirage]

32 and more to come

[vestal wren]

will drop next run

[gusty mirage]

[solid venture]

you just gotta /roll until u get a big number and then rp walk to chest with UI turned off

guaranteed drop

[vestal wren]

haha, i would not start with stuff like this

it just becomes to absurd with time

[bleak sky]

nightly hasn't rebuilt yet, ye?

[solid venture]

[vestal wren]

it has mina

[bleak sky]

it's simming higher than it was yesterday

[vestal wren]

if you refer to the ring changes koji mentioned in #tc-research

[bleak sky]

ye, ring changes

[vestal wren]

make sure to use nightly tho

[bleak sky]

yep, nightly

[vestal wren]

you can put up the iteraiton count if you want a more stable result

[spice spire]

L+you fell off + 32 runs in + legally white + ratio

[gusty mirage]

You’re too old for that boo

[spice spire]

I know

[gusty mirage]

You catch my story about my zoom hearing?

[spice spire]

Not yet - just got here, soon

[timid cloud]

Oxi is one of the 900 lobbed from Better.com over Zoom because he doesn’t have a faulty. LUL

[strange python]

weird - all my logs are missing from warcraftlogs

[hollow river]

Did your guilds logger delete them

[strange python]

Not sure - i had a lot of personal logs too though

oh well

[hollow river]

That’s weird

[hollow river]

Are you sure they’re not from 9.1 and not 9.1.5?

[bleak sky]

Did you transfer realms/faction?

[strange python]

no...lemme check some other people

everyone from my guild at least is missing, maybe it's an area52 thing

[bleak sky]

if for some reason you can't find logs, drop by the WCL discord and send a message there

lemme check if my logs are on

[strange python]

ok

[bleak sky]

hm, logs are also missing here (A52, Azralon, Stormrage)

[cerulean nest]

so is that a nerf to whetstone or a buff? language was weird on it lol

[timid cloud]

Mine are still there. A52

[bleak sky]

Logs are there, but just not showing rank/best parse on front page

[timid cloud]

Nerf, it got a target cap.

[cerulean nest]

rip

[strange python]

They're aware of the issue (WCL) and they're working on a fix.

[raven vapor]

!oil

[prisma monolith]

Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ

[gusty mirage]

Wtf is better.com

[timid cloud]

[gusty mirage]

And how dare you assume I work for someone else like I’m some peasant

This poverty is self made baby

@wary ice

[timid cloud]

Sec, I’ll send you the article.

[wary ice]

I dont have nitro for the :letsgo: so i had to make it work

[gusty mirage]

Oh is that the dude who said he feels bad and then canned like 1000 people?

[timid cloud]

Yeah.

[gusty mirage]

What a guy

“I feel bad for doing this but you’re fired right before Christmas “

[timid cloud]

LOL

[strange python]

Looks like Faulty made it through the "trinket reassessment" though

Just gotta find me an enh - and go do some heroic 😄

[pure moth]

I had a group of 1 other rogue and 3 dh for a low lvl .. no luck

[deep solstice]

Countermeasure will not make up for not having 2 disc priests hitting me with PI on cd. And I play sub in mythic. So....don't need to keep farming. #copium

[thorny pond]

Countermeasures + 2 PIs is p good

I'll take on that one

[deep solstice]

I don't have PIs tho

[thorny pond]

😕

[deep solstice]

Just saying my copium for not farming for 10 more hours is not having PIs so can't beat the R1 anyway.

[visual prairie]

they need to make 4pc affect all targets as well

sorry, just catching up

[wary ice]

wait so does the 2 pc just give 100% crit to your dots at all times to all targets? or does is the crit rate only when you shiv (but still against all targets)?

[spice spire]

Shiv window gives the crit to bleeds on all targets afaik

[visual prairie]

only during shiv buff is how i read it

[spice spire]

And then once shiv is over

It’s back to normal

[wary ice]

ok thats how i thought it should

I just reread it cause fleep and im like wait is the set bonus just "too much crit"

[visual prairie]

well, if they can figure out how to apply the 2pc to everything even though i only shivved that one thing, they can apply the 4pc to all my bleeds even though i only vendetta on that one thing

i like to imagine all my crimson tempest at double speed 100% crit

and think maybe I can almost aoe

[thorn fjord]

Finally made it to third platform last night

338 pulls in... Starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel LOL

[spice spire]

Well that’s kind of the issue, we already index into crit heavily so it’s not as much of a gain as it may seem

[limber lion]

@gusty mirage hello mr. cf, how much haste do I need to play ass?

[gusty mirage]

My ass or the class?

[limber lion]

yes

[gusty mirage]

[slow marsh]

Yes

[gusty mirage]

0% for you

[slow marsh]

69%

[limber lion]

[spice spire]

[limber lion]

we're mastery gamers here after all

[thorn fjord]

420%

[limber lion]

haste

[slow marsh]

True

Kinda

[spice spire]

Oshosi next CF confirmed

[subtle tundra]

I mastered the ass

[thorn fjord]

The ass mastered me

[gusty mirage]

I’m going to humbly request some video evidence for um….research purposes… yeah thats it. Research

[subtle tundra]

😩

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

Bro?

[gusty mirage]

Yeah bro?

[slow marsh]

Wait wtf is this shit

[limber lion]

yes sir, it's down the dumpster

[thorn fjord]

legion trinkets go BRRRRRR

[limber lion]

Blizzard is a big fan of splitting damage

Not sure why

I hate it

[halcyon zealot]

split damage

[spice spire]

Cap implemented damage gained now gabagool trinket

Dead inside

[wary ice]

grats :^)

[slow marsh]

Oh I see

Faulty untouched let's go

[gusty mirage]

Thank you

[halcyon zealot]

gz on green, looks very festive on you @gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

I hope I can continue repping the homies well

If I can’t I’ll just get whispyr to ban me

[spice spire]

Continue repping 🤨

Don’t make me get the “oxi report”

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

[slow marsh]

Dang now I need to make a decision huh

[spice spire]

Wat

[slow marsh]

Do I really want to stay reformed with goals to be green like the homies before me

Or stay a man of the people

[gusty mirage]

Why not both?

[slow marsh]

Truuuuuuu

[spice spire]

Porque no los DoS

Oxi stop

Fucking hospital net

[gusty mirage]

Imma need you to take a breather old man

[deep solstice]

Whetstone "assisted" me with parsing KT before the nerf.

[spice spire]

You’re deadass older than me

[gusty mirage]

Yeah but I’m mentally like 4

[spice spire]

Yeah fair

[gusty mirage]

Checkmated nerd

[spice spire]

Is that what that is?

[gusty mirage]

[strange python]

Why are you upstairs as a rogue

[deep solstice]

I wasnt

[strange python]

Thats gonna have to be a report from me

[spice spire]

You’re getting senile old man

[strange python]

Oh yea i forgot

Theres other adds

[gusty mirage]

Getting?

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-yells-at-cloud-yelling-old-man-news-the-simpsons-gif-17741451

[spice spire]

[strange python]

I dont hit devoteds or spikes

[deep solstice]

Then you sir, are not padding properly

[slow marsh]

^

[strange python]

Fights not on asp

Padding is for bozo’s

[spice spire]

Did you just accuse DK of padding?

[slow marsh]

[spice spire]

This man is the epitome of ethical gaming

Boss damage only

P3 Sylvanas connoisseur

[deep solstice]

I mean I also had a good boss damage parse. Tank adds are for other people to hit.

[strange python]

P3 sylvanas

[slow marsh]

Not using adds to funnel more winds into boss

[spice spire]

Mans a blue name

Only knows blood link

[strange python]

I play unholy

[spice spire]

zamn

[hollow river]

Seen it coming

[toxic quail]

dude my guildmates are so lazy/bad im usually top dmg on Tank Adds as Assa Rogue

not fucking good

[gusty mirage]

[slow marsh]

Maybe now that you're green you can get a faulty countermeasure to drop

[spice spire]

No shot

[gusty mirage]

Lmfao I have a better chance of replacing James in limit brother

[slow marsh]

Kekw well you ARE moving up so I mean

[bleak sky]

green oxi

[spice spire]

That’s the artist formerly known as oxi to you

Now Groxi

[bleak sky]

oh shit there's a podcast about to start

[thorny pond]

Oh look the boi is green, gratz @gusty mirage

[spice spire]

Looks like it’s 80 minutes from now @bleak sky at least per announcement

[slow marsh]

Don't worry @limber lion we'll try not to forget you

[gusty mirage]

He’ll never be forgotten as long as I’m here

[spice spire]

Imagine forgetting a GOAT

[bleak sky]

I can't read time

[slow marsh]

That's THE goat to you sir

[spice spire]

I mean podcasters are showing so

[limber lion]

it's okay, I'm old and grumpy nowadays

good thing we have some fresh blood

[spice spire]

[limber lion]

and someone to keep me on track whenever I go insane next time

[gusty mirage]

Seems to be a qualification for assassination CFs

[slow marsh]

Kekw old when oxi is around

[gusty mirage]

[bleak sky]

(guys who's Zeratule I'm new here)

[limber lion]

He's a content creator, generally known as The Red Rogue

[gusty mirage]

Zeratule is the red rogue on YouTube, great dude, long time defias member, and has super interesting content

[spice spire]

The red rogue, he has a YouTube channel. Long time rogue CC

[slow marsh]

He's a boomer rogue from the olden days

[bleak sky]

alrighty thanks ❤️

[spice spire]

No u ice

[gusty mirage]

The legend himself @gray fjord

[slow marsh]

[gusty mirage]

His only fault is he’s an outlaw main

[spice spire]

Oh

[gray fjord]

[spice spire]

outlaw mains

[slow marsh]

🐒

[gray fjord]

Tbf I try to play all 3 specs, working on 2500 as assassination once push week is over

[slow marsh]

Outlaw mains

[echo geyser]

Wtf @gusty mirage gz on green

[gusty mirage]

Hell yeah

[spice spire]

Man’s a higher io than me

[gusty mirage]

Ty cutie

[gusty mirage]

Not very hard

[spice spire]

Nah have a new push group

[gusty mirage]

[bleak sky]

just pug it 4Head

[echo geyser]

I had to turn up my phone brightness to see it, thought i was dreaming

[spice spire]

They see assa rogue and

[bleak sky]

yeah but fuck em

[gray fjord]

Imagine non-rogues knowing about rogues.

[spice spire]

I might

[gray fjord]

[echo geyser]

So vault farm goes on right? Only whetstone nerfs

[slow marsh]

They only know what limit max tells them

[spice spire]

State of the world Mr. Red Rogue

[bleak sky]

it seems so king

[spice spire]

So far yeah

[slow marsh]

Year of the spear baby

[verbal mantle]

back in my days they wouldnt give green names like that................

[bleak sky]

SHARK ratJAM

[echo geyser]

[marble hemlock]

what are your days?

[spice spire]

How many vaults so far ram?

[verbal mantle]

[gusty mirage]

Coming from the man who threatened to and I quote “German suplex” me if I said I didn’t deserve it

[cerulean nest]

look at these chad red, green and orange discord leaders we have

[gusty mirage]

[cerulean nest]

how lucky are we

[verbal mantle]

[slow marsh]

I kinda fw sharkshoes but at the same time sometimes people be looking at him as a source of what to do on rogue and it's cringe

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

Saususge is probably my fav dadsen emote

By far

[bleak sky]

yeah but he's big so what can we do 🤷🏻‍♂️

[spice spire]

Mines 100% the fucked up cat

[slow marsh]

At least he's not putting out dratnos MASSIVE 100% DAMAGE INCREASE INSIDE VENDETTA bullshit so it's chill

[bleak sky]

where realms

[spice spire]

Yeah that one

[bleak sky]

damn Guy's voice is THICC

[gusty mirage]

Make sure you tune in lads

Gonna be a good one today

[spice spire]

Yeah you didn’t know minalba?

[cerulean nest]

what is this

[bleak sky]

first time

[spice spire]

He’s been on a vod podcast before

[gusty mirage]

Start of a RH podcast

[spice spire]

In 9.1

[bleak sky]

only comm figures I've heard before are whispyr and seli

[spice spire]

He’s a chill dude

[gusty mirage]

Minalba is a sin rogue through and through

[slow marsh]

I thought it was in an hour

[thorny pond]

Unlike some people

[bleak sky]

working on becoming a pirate boy

:sadge

at least learning it, it's fun

[gusty mirage]

[thorny pond]

I will destroy the leaf

To save the world

🥷

[bleak sky]

don't do it we need plants alive

[spice spire]

I don’t understand this reference

[slow marsh]

Ok itachi calm down

[bleak sky]

either boomer or super zoomer I don't know which

[thorny pond]

You aren’t a true nerd and you lack of kekkai genkai disturbs me Quake

[spice spire]

Wtf did you say to me

[slow marsh]

This is sin channel

[nocturne geode]

your

[thorny pond]

My only sin is that I need externals to parse

[slow marsh]

Need

Kekw

[bleak sky]

imagine not rank 1 without 18 externals

[slow marsh]

Try 33 nerd

[cerulean nest]

what is this tricks of the trade

[bleak sky]

Redirects all threat you cause to the targeted party or raid member, beginning with your next damaging attack within the next 30 sec and lasting 6 sec.

[cerulean nest]

lol

I mean the voice channel happening dawg

[bleak sky]

jk it's a podcast thingy I guess?

they had a channel for questions on rogue so I guess they're answering that + discussing some other stuff

[cerulean nest]

hope they're recording for later

[bleak sky]

Whispyr said something about making a highlight of it so I guess they are

[spice spire]

Yeah it’s a podcast

Starts in 55

[slow marsh]

53

[marble hemlock]

#announcements message

[kind talon]

wait

oxi green name?

letsgoooooo

[thorny pond]

yet you're still beige

[marble hemlock]

cant spell toxic without oxi, so we decided to embrace it

[vestal wren]

yes, he will work with us to modernize/update/manage the website 👍

[kind talon]

and?

[thorny pond]

heh

[kind talon]

mad?

problem?

[thorny pond]

why

then I can't be mean to you

[kind talon]

im projecting

[spice spire]

Wish I were beige

[kind talon]

im mad and have a problem

[thorny pond]

just don't OTP quake

be flexible

[spice spire]

Sorry king

I live in the OTP life

[hollow river]

I’m a beige imposter

[slow marsh]

I am flexible but I choose to be this

[spice spire]

Truest OTP here, except maybe Cev

[hollow river]

True beige players completed all 3 MT’s

[spice spire]

But ceveriontwo was an outlaw mastermind

[thorny pond]

Like I can not bash my face in by saying I'm sub and don't need ring and FCM

then beg for KA in raid because I am assass

[marble hemlock]

more like onecovenantpony

[bleak sky]

damn that's true wtf

[spice spire]

I’m not you pre 9.1.5

[bleak sky]

never ran a single key as other spec

[spice spire]

Yessir

[slow marsh]

Me either

[spice spire]

OTPolice here

[thorny pond]

I am OTPolice

get in the van

[spice spire]

Gonna check that statement for 🧢

[subtle tundra]

unfortunately, i gave in and im not a otp anymore 😦

[bleak sky]

[spice spire]

Varas

[slow marsh]

Oh shit

[subtle tundra]

im one of those "sub fotm pissers"

[slow marsh]

🏃‍♂️

[bleak sky]

mr blades is out here LYING

[spice spire]

YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE

[thorny pond]

Also if you multi-spec you can always roll upgrades from loot council

[strange python]

oh dang i'm holding down page 21

[bleak sky]

what

[thorny pond]

"Yea I need this vers ring, sub ya know"