assassination

[limber lion]

Honestly decent for lower keys.

[balmy condor]

not really, but it's not recommended most of the time

[limber lion]

Pretty similar damage, just a bit different profile.

Zoldyck definitely better for higher keys.

[scenic meteor]

well would you slap a 5 cp rupture on a target that only lasts 10s?

[balmy condor]

no

well

[echo geyser]

yeah but with a lot more punishment for not big dmg gain

[balmy condor]

maybe

depends again

[echo geyser]

thats the worst part at least

[scenic meteor]

or just no rupture?

[limber lion]

Well

If that's your only target

You should have a rupture on it

[balmy condor]

would depend on how many bleeds you already have out

[limber lion]

If that's target #13

you probably don't need to.

[balmy condor]

if you're energy saturated, should definitely envenom

if you're not, send the rupture

[scenic osprey]

garroate has CD but rupture does not thats prob why

[scenic meteor]

yeah its juts in lower keys mobs dont seem to survive a full rupture

[strange python]

Ok, well that helps...and I really appreciate the help. I'm 215 ilvl and got 6.5k overall dps in the 15 I did earlier...but I want to get that up higher. Bleeds = energy (essentially haha)

[limber lion]

Just play MA - EP NS MFD CT in lower keys.

[echo geyser]

thats sins strong side in m+ with multi targets yeah

[limber lion]

Bleeds = damage.

[echo geyser]

more targets = infinite energy

[scenic osprey]

one active rupture/ garroate is 3.5ish energy per sec?

[scenic meteor]

ill try, thanks

[echo geyser]

thats why people can go for low haste

[limber lion]

We keep applying Ruptures even when we're at energy saturation

because they just slap

[scenic osprey]

or play outlaw in lower keys lol

[strange python]

Fair enough. Didn't realize rupture was that important. Feelsbadman rip

[scenic osprey]

MA+ killing spree

[limber lion]

Not just rupture, Garrote as well.

Gotta put more focus on both of em

[strange python]

Rgr

[echo geyser]

rupture > garrote in aoe tho right? like 4+ or so ?

[limber lion]

No

[echo geyser]

cause garrote gives only 1 cp compared to fok ?

[limber lion]

So?

[scenic osprey]

use garrote on cd ;>

[strange python]

I spam garrote on cd

[limber lion]

It does damage

and gives you energy

for no combo point cost

Rupture costs you combo points

combo points = damage

[echo geyser]

does it do more dmg than rupture?

[limber lion]

No

But garrote is a generator

Rupture is a finisher.

[strange python]

Haha ones a finisher, ones a builder

[echo geyser]

yeah

[limber lion]

You don't go

[scenic osprey]

just use garroate on cd

[limber lion]

"Should I rupture or garrote now"

[strange python]

Lmao

[limber lion]

Because they function differently.

Yeh, honestly just slam garrote on cd like it's shiv

and you're gucci

[scenic osprey]

lol

[echo geyser]

hm i see

[strange python]

"Should I envenom or slice and dice?" Lol

[echo geyser]

thought fok rupture was more valuable in aoe scenario

rly have not touched this spec since bfa

for m+

[limber lion]

See, everything depends.

It's all very situational

And everything changes

[echo geyser]

i mean its target count right

what else

[limber lion]

depending on what's happening

[scenic osprey]

if i use that conduit gives a RTB buff on ambush then i talent into proc ambush ,

[limber lion]

That is one thing yes

[strange python]

Yea I played it today in m+ for the first time this exp, too. Actually was more fun than expected. It has me 2nd guessing my hopes for subt to climb in 9.1 lol

[umbral rapids]

i'm confused on what that means ?

[echo geyser]

so at what target count does fok rupture spread become better than using garrote then

i might be misremebering but i wasnt rly using garrote in bigger aoe scenarios in bfa

[balmy condor]

please don't use outlaw conduits on sin man

[limber lion]

But then there's stuff like:

1. Is there a priority target?
2. Are the mobs that have bleeds on them dying soon?
3. Are the mobs that you've yet to use bleeds on going to die soon?
   etc

M+ is a living environment.

[wise gull]

Hey cev, quick question

[limber lion]

What's up

[sonic schooner]

i used deeper dagger conduit so my memeory of the past deals more dmg

[echo geyser]

garrote does not refund energy right

rupture does?

[balmy condor]

yes

[echo geyser]

ok

[balmy condor]

the refund is rup only

[wise gull]

Is it worth losing a 6-7 of uptime to bonespike a pretty long living target?

[echo geyser]

what about 5cp rupture vs a garrote which one does more dmg

[scenic meteor]

rupture

[scenic osprey]

bonespike initial dmg is much more lol

[balmy condor]

the rupture

why is that a comparison

[umbral rapids]

if you have 5/5cp you're gonna rupture anyway though

no?

i'm so confused,

[balmy condor]

garrote is a generator, rupture is a spender

[echo geyser]

im trying to figure out why i thought u dont use garrote in bigger aoe

[limber lion]

That's hard to say. You mean 6-7 seconds?

[balmy condor]

they don't interact

you send the garrote

[wise gull]

We do 2-1-1 on sire and i'm wondering if it's worth it to run and bonespike gloomveil before moving to the duskhollow platform

[limber lion]

^

[echo geyser]

so u use garrote on cd no matter target count?

[balmy condor]

yes

[limber lion]

Ah no, don't do that.

[echo geyser]

interesting

[umbral rapids]

you seem to be confused but just understand that one's a builder and one is a finisher

[limber lion]

The main benefit from multi-dotting with SBS is the combo points and resets you get

But on Sire you're already getting max combo points with every single SBS at that point

[echo geyser]

i just thought fok to generate into rupture was more dmg total than 1 garrote

thats all i guess

[umbral rapids]

there isn't a situation where you choose between garrote and rupture cause they really just do different things

[limber lion]

So there's very little incentive to run to sbs the other target.

[balmy condor]

garrote > 1 fok

it's 1 gcd, and garrote smashes the fok

[wise gull]

even if it's going to get like 1:30-2min of value?

[short token]

are legendaries getting an ilvl upgrade? or is 235 still going to bei t/

[umbral rapids]

idk about target count, but the fact that one's a builder and one's a finisher should give you a big enough hint

[short token]

it?

[echo geyser]

and 1 gives energy refund and 1 doesnt thats also partly why

[balmy condor]

yes they will

[wise gull]

good to know though, wasn't sure

[limber lion]

It's honestly really hard to say.

[short token]

@balmy condor should we wait to craft doomblade then on back?

[wise gull]

i'll probably test how long it actually takes with sprint

[echo geyser]

maybe it had something to do with eb trait in bfa then

[limber lion]

I mean, you can do that for sure - if you can manage the damage check on Baron.

[balmy condor]

you currently can't craft it anyway

so

yes

[short token]

LOL

ok

[umbral rapids]

kek

[balmy condor]

you should wait till you can craft it

[short token]

my bad

[limber lion]

Just don't troll your team by multi-dotting and not meeting the dps check :P

[wise gull]

yeah our dam is for sure fine

[limber lion]

Okay sick

[umbral rapids]

i did the same thing

[limber lion]

I mean if Gloomy is alive for 2 minutes, it sounds pretty fine to me.

[balmy condor]

pinned questions

[limber lion]

When are you using Vendetta?

On Baron or earlier?

[scenic osprey]

235 base piece is going to be much cheaper in 9.1

[umbral rapids]

idk

they're already going up

[wise gull]

remornia on evershades platform

[sonic schooner]

dot everything like a madman, go garrot rupture ct all the 4 horsemen

[limber lion]

Ok

Then

[sonic schooner]

😠

[limber lion]

1000% do SBS Gloomveil

I just kinda assumed that you were blasting on Baron and losing 6-7s of Vendetta which is tough

But if you're not blasting on Baron, you might as well tbh

Just make sure to save sprint or something for it, it's still pretty far off.

[wise gull]

i need to ask about switching my interrupt tonight

i have to run to the far add during vendetta

feels

very bad

[limber lion]

ah

Should have one of the later interrupts

if you're blasting cd's on the boss

/add

[sonic schooner]

during prog i was add 1 kick 5, and the last week i was moved to add 2 kick 4

add 2 kick 4 was perfect tbh

[wise gull]

i'm kick 1 on add 2

that's the hardest part of the fight for me as far as doing sick dam

[limber lion]

Just get bleeds up on Remornia when you fall down, then rupture on Sire

[echo geyser]

was there any ptr testing of the later bosses or just any bosses that has zoldyck execute value so far?

[limber lion]

Then get to the add and put all bleeds on it and go ham when wrecking pain lands

I'm sure you're aware how to pull it off

It just gets a bit hectic :p

[wise gull]

i refresh on sire when i land because he usually ends up porting before I can otherwise

[limber lion]

We tested every boss on mythic, except for Sylvanas I think

[wise gull]

but that's what im doing yeah

its just squeezing the crimson tempests in that i struggle with

[limber lion]

Didn't see much use for an execute.

Yep, practice makes perfect :p

[wise gull]

my best p2 dam is 7.4k as venthyr so i'm definitely doing alright. lots to improve still though

[limber lion]

7.4k is great.

[wise gull]

im sad that tonight is our last sire

[limber lion]

I did 8.2k as Venthyr on our prog kill

[sonic schooner]

oh nuu 😔

[limber lion]

But our strat involved slowly killing Cabalists

so it's a bit unfair of an comparison

And it was 2-2

[scenic osprey]

maintain poison on other targets too otherwise bleed doesnet give energy

[limber lion]

So pretty much ideal

[balmy condor]

correct, spread them with fok on 3+, or tab mut on 2

[wise gull]

p2 as assa is probably the most fun i've ever had in this game

im addicted now

[limber lion]

Yeh, it's great.

I love it.

I'm never killing Sire again

[sonic schooner]

oh btw Ceve, i m totally used to your plater profile now, it feels gud gud really

[limber lion]

But it was fun whilst it lasted.

[limber lion]

Good to hear.

[scenic osprey]

fan of knives with envenom buff should cut it right ?

[sonic schooner]

sire is such a great fight tbh, i liked it soooo much 😔

i will miss him

[scenic meteor]

im still using blizzard name plates, i should probably upgrade right? 😄

[wise gull]

if only p1 wasn't cring

[balmy condor]

it's a chance on any attafck, so it could apply, or not

[limber lion]

Definitely.

[umbral rapids]

bruh now i want to know what it looks like !

[scenic osprey]

council of blood is

[limber lion]

Playing Sin without good nameplates is a sin.

[scenic meteor]

what should i use?

[limber lion]

Most people use Plater.

Or well, probably not most people.

[scenic meteor]

addon?

[limber lion]

Yes.

[scenic meteor]

ok ill try it

[limber lion]

But it's generally a really common choice among players.

[scenic meteor]

i want a massive garotte and rupture, CT so i can see lol

[sonic schooner]

i was using elvUI nameplates till then

[limber lion]

Just get yourself a good plater profile

and you're gucci

[balmy condor]

get yourself a cev

[umbral rapids]

got a screenshot i'm curious ?

[sonic schooner]

not too bad but my settings were fcked because i was too lazy to do something proprely

[balmy condor]

but you guys gotta find a new one, @limber lion is my cev, can't have him

[sonic schooner]

C..ca..can we... share? 😳

[limber lion]

[scenic meteor]

ok ill download plater and see what i can do

[limber lion]

ily babe

[limber lion]

https://wago.io/gf0Dg_Ujr

[balmy condor]

"ahhhh that's hot" - will smith

[wise gull]

setting up custom pandemic glows on my plater debuffs helped a lot too

[sonic schooner]

now i see pandemic windows on my WA and plater

[wise gull]

oh

[sonic schooner]

cant miss one

[wise gull]

cevs two steps ahead, as always

[scenic meteor]

damn thats nice ceve

[echo geyser]

are pandemic timers to certain dots script or custom code?

[limber lion]

@balmy condor has a great profile as well

[umbral rapids]

looks clean

[balmy condor]

honestly would use cev's if I didn't have to change a bunch of settings, which I already did when I made my own

[umbral rapids]

i'm not a big fan of the texture but that's personal preference i suppose

[balmy condor]

[scenic meteor]

wait can i copy that plater string when i download the addon?

[sonic schooner]

show us yours whisp

pwease

[umbral rapids]

yeah you can import profiles

[limber lion]

Whispyr has some great features

[balmy condor]

https://wago.io/t6bI_B9wi

[limber lion]

I still need to yoink some of them for myself

[balmy condor]

no screenshots

sadly

[sonic schooner]

me big sad now

[umbral rapids]

bruh

[wise gull]

i will say though cev, i'm slightly judging you for your use of a gradient on the healthbar :p

[umbral rapids]

how am i supposed to trust that it's good whisp

[frigid kestrel]

You just loss some cool points

[wise gull]

im just a gradient hater though

[umbral rapids]

just because you say it is ?

[sonic schooner]

guess i can catch an exemple on a vod from your stream or something

🤔

[limber lion]

I'll have you know

that I've gotten like 5 comments about it

and I've changed it for my personal use

but I just haven't uploaded the updated one

[wise gull]

lmfao

thank god

[balmy condor]

I can probably upload some

[wise gull]

a gradient is definitely a dps loss

[scenic meteor]

you should be charging for that plater profile lol

very clean

[balmy condor]

we aren't scumbags

[scenic meteor]

now my dps will double

[umbral rapids]

i lowkey prefer this i think

[balmy condor]

hol up

[limber lion]

Each to their own!

[umbral rapids]

you added pandemic glow?

[balmy condor]

that's mine

[umbral rapids]

yes:

[scenic osprey]

exposed

[umbral rapids]

[sonic schooner]

Now u got a screenshot

[umbral rapids]

[balmy condor]

yeah I could yoink that

[umbral rapids]

oh yeah

[limber lion]

I honestly like the yellow borders for the pandemics

[umbral rapids]

i feel like i prefer this just because of texture tbh LOL

yeah it's cool

[limber lion]

I think they're much cleaner than the glow

[balmy condor]

aight fuck it

[umbral rapids]

i don't play sin in m+ tbh

[balmy condor]

@umbral rapids get me another screenshot with more pandemic and flashy flashy

so I can yoink

[limber lion]

I gotta admit, my plater might not be the cutest

[balmy condor]

pog

[umbral rapids]

i gotchu

[balmy condor]

that works

[umbral rapids]

man i might actually use that

with a different font though

idk this doesn't do much for me until i play sin though lol

[frigid kestrel]

Cool Points returned

[scenic meteor]

outlaw?

[umbral rapids]

yeah i always played outlaw idk

i played sin a bit at the end of bfa

[scenic meteor]

i love sub and sin but cant seem to enjoy outlaw ;p

[umbral rapids]

man it's my first char

[mental trout]

ahh, so doomblade is the leggo we want to be rocking for raiding in 9.1. I know this isn't the pvp channel, but is doomblade also BiS for pvp?

[umbral rapids]

i levelled as outlaw, then i played more outlaw to understand the game, next thing i know i'm outlaw main

[limber lion]

I think so. But yeh, #pvp boys know better.

[strange python]

Pandemic highlight on your plates is 😍😍😍

[teal bloom]

I should download plater, I've always used tidy plates :( pandemic glow on nameplate could be useful

[wise gull]

it's very worth

[balmy condor]

my sin wa pack has a gif!

[scenic meteor]

is bigwigs good? or should i stay with deadly boss mods?

[balmy condor]

very fancy

[balmy condor]

preference

[wise gull]

100% preference

[umbral rapids]

bro?

outdated much?

[jaunty crystal]

both realistically do the exact same thing, but in different ways.

[wise gull]

but i'll still tease my close friends for using DBM

[umbral rapids]

@balmy condor

[scenic meteor]

this is it right?

[balmy condor]

hey okay the pack is updated, I never said I updated the gif with it

[umbral rapids]

ye

[scenic meteor]

cheers

[balmy condor]

it looks the same

[umbral rapids]

why would you track spyglass anyway

[balmy condor]

I don't

I just track trinket 1/2

[strange python]

I always thought all name plates did the same thing until I got platter and my world changed.

[balmy condor]

so it doesn't matter if it's a passive or an on-use

[umbral rapids]

yeah no nameplates are bis

gotcha

[balmy condor]

I could've added some thing to only show if it's a trinket with an active or something

but I was way too lazy and it didn't bother me

[umbral rapids]

yeah it doesn't matter

man and you got a dagger that run

i did so many mists didn't get a single one

[scenic meteor]

@limber lion lul trying to paste your plater crashed my wow

[limber lion]

That happens a lot with plater.

[scenic meteor]

oh does it

[limber lion]

It just freezes for a loooooong time

[scenic meteor]

thought it was my pc

[kind dock]

Just let it sit there Benn

[limber lion]

Don't worry.,

[kind dock]

it takes a LONG time

[scenic meteor]

oh i closed it

ah well ill try again

[kind dock]

Nah let it do its thing

dont click or anything lol

[scenic meteor]

oh lol

[limber lion]

Ok boys, let me hear your preference

[kind dock]

Soccer moms

[umbral rapids]

yeah it freezes forever when you import a profile lol

[limber lion]

Is this a good font

I like the font, but I'm not sure if I'm the biggest fan of the all caps.

[balmy condor]

expressway is the only font

[pale fossil]

[balmy condor]

idk fonts are all preference tbh

I don't like that font

but I see why you would

ya know

I like me some thicker letters

[scenic meteor]

seems to have worked, but dont see the combo points above

[limber lion]

Yeh, idk, I just don't like the outlines.

Like I would want to do something with the shadows, but there's not much you can do

[echo geyser]

it looks like u have omni cd

[scenic meteor]

oh yeah probably

[echo geyser]

u should disable either one on the plater

[limber lion]

General Settings > Show Resources on Target

at /plater

[scenic meteor]

cheers

[echo geyser]

also how did u guys add pandemic timers on the dots on plater

scripts or custom code?

[limber lion]

Scripts.

[echo geyser]

ok ty

[balmy condor]

crips

[scenic meteor]

disabling omnicc seems to get rid of some of the numbers on this weakaura

like the ep, snd and vend

[echo geyser]

omni cc is kinda useless if u use weakauras

its mainly for if u actually look at ur bars

cause weakauras can just add timers

[scenic meteor]

idk what it is lol i just had it

[echo geyser]

same with plater as u saw

[scenic meteor]

ok ill go through the wa settings

[echo geyser]

in general its just adding %p (progress timer)

for the weakauras text

[scenic meteor]

general of what sorry

[echo geyser]

like if a weakaura u imported doesnt have a timer or whatever

u can add %p

[scenic meteor]

ohhh

ah ok lol

[echo geyser]

that means timer (progress)

[scenic meteor]

got you

[echo geyser]

omni cc was pretty common

i used it as well and not all WA had timers

thats before i learned basic wa making/editing

and if u use elvui

its even more useless cause u can add timers to bars there

[scenic meteor]

yeah this is all new to me

i dont have elvui yet

[echo geyser]

yeah then its a fine addon if u still look at ur bars and want timers there

[scenic meteor]

not sure why numbers are showing for garotte rupture but not the others

[echo geyser]

yeah thats a thing u need to add if u want it

[sharp panther]

think you need omni cc to add timers to omni cd if you use that yeah?

[scenic meteor]

the progress tiemr?

[balmy condor]

just get rid of omni cc

and then get wa's

that have timers

fuck omni

[echo geyser]

yes add %p

[scenic meteor]

i disabled omni just trying to work out where to at %p lol

[balmy condor]

display

[pale fossil]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[echo geyser]

which pack is that

isnt that afenar?

[scenic meteor]

im using luxthos it says

[echo geyser]

aha

but yeah like i said not all WAs have timers

but u can easily add it

[pale fossil]

I use Afenar's and it has durations for everything. The only small gripe I have with it is that CT doesn't flash like the others do when it's not up on the current target, but it's not the biggest deal because 1) I can add it if I care that much and 2) it's lower priority.

[pale fossil]

After I was SLANDERED for my UI setup in here

[balmy condor]

you see how I'm in the display tab

[echo geyser]

u can add a similar condition @pale fossil

[balmy condor]

and it's got text 1

and then %p

[echo geyser]

just look at garrote/rupture whatever go to conditions

it should be something in the lines of

[pale fossil]

Yeah, I know how to add it I just haven't done it yet haha

Just replicate Garrote/Rupture and adjust Pandemic if I need to.

[scenic meteor]

ok cheers

[echo geyser]

if target doesnt have spell id/name = true = glow

yeah u might be able to straight up copy the condition

[scenic meteor]

i got it 😄 add text then %p then crank up the text size lol

[echo geyser]

yep customize font size to ur liking

[scenic meteor]

nice - thanks for all the help 🙂

[limber lion]

https://wago.io/gf0Dg_Ujr
Alright I've updated the page slightly with the newly updated profile.

[scenic meteor]

ah it does look nicer

does it show doomblade ?

[thorny pond]

Gonna get cev going

[limber lion]

No reason to track Doomblade. :p

[hollow river]

kinda confused on what to do atm

[scenic meteor]

true actually

nvm lol

[hollow river]

guild is now taking a break from raid till 9.1

[humble ginkgo]

yo cev

[hollow river]

idk if i should upgrade my gear for more m+ or to get ready for new raid lol

[humble ginkgo]

is there a way to do that manually with my current plater?

I have the dots above the nameplate aswell but how do I add a glow when its in pandemic

im really bad with weakauras and stuff

[limber lion]

You have to do it in the scripts.

Just yoink it from someone else's profile

like take the script from mine

and just put it in yours

[pale fossil]

Do you not look at your WA since your CPs and pandemics are in your bar?

[limber lion]

The WA is for your target

Nameplates are for AoE

I don't look at nameplates in single target

I don't look at weakauras in AoE.

[humble ginkgo]

how do I take the script

where it makes the pandemic glow

[pale fossil]

Ahhhh, that's an interesting way to look at it.

[limber lion]

That's how most dot based specs and their players play the game.

[humble ginkgo]

how do I target the pandemic script only?

I have no clue

[limber lion]

Me neither.

[humble ginkgo]

oh well

rip

[scenic meteor]

cev will that plater profile only show for sin?

[limber lion]

No.

Shows on all.

[scenic meteor]

ah okay

what about on different classes? will it just be default plater?

[limber lion]

It's the same profile for all specs and classes.

You just have to turn the profile on.

[scenic meteor]

ah ok

[limber lion]

Might not have all the intricate nuances to it

But it's still the same profile.

[scenic meteor]

yeha ok thanks

[limber lion]

I have pandemic timers for other classes as well

like SP and Affli

[scenic meteor]

oh nice

[echo geyser]

on the plater?

[limber lion]

The person I yoinked the profile from originally had all the scripts built in

and I just modified it to my needs.

[limber lion]

Yes

[wise gull]

Is it possible to make it so plater prioritizes the order of debuffs?

[echo geyser]

thats cool u play any of those classes too?

[wise gull]

so garrote/rupture will always be first 2

[limber lion]

Yes

That's what my plater does

[wise gull]

where's the setting? or is it a script

[humble ginkgo]

so theres no way for me to only add the glow on the dots on my current plater

[wise gull]

i'm just tweaking mine with stuff from yours right now :p

[wise gull]

just export the pandemic scripts and import them on your profile

[humble ginkgo]

yea but how do I get the pandemic scripts

[echo geyser]

bruh

u take his profile

u open scripts

then u export scripts

then u import script into urs

[limber lion]

I think it's a mod. I don't have WoW open now.

You can find it on my profile, you can just yoink it from there.

[echo geyser]

if it was a mod then u do same but under mod

[limber lion]

You can change the order yourself and add spells if you want to it.

[echo geyser]

i dont even know what diff between mod and script is tbh

theyre the same in my mind

they do something u want

[wise gull]

they're labelled garrote pandemic and rupture pandemic :p

[humble ginkgo]

I import the plater and my game full frozen

[limber lion]

That's plater for ya.

[echo geyser]

[humble ginkgo]

so where in plater

do I find the pandemic thing

[echo geyser]

bruh

[humble ginkgo]

nvm got it

[echo geyser]

did u read the 4 lines i wrote before bruh

[humble ginkgo]

now I just export these?

[echo geyser]

the ones u need yeah

keichi said theyre called garrote and rupture pandemic

idk if it has a bunch of other scripts

[humble ginkgo]

ye

it does

it has likea a bunch of other dots

[echo geyser]

take whatever u need

export

then import to ur own profile

[humble ginkgo]

how do I export??

bruhhhhhhh

where is the string

[echo geyser]

right click on left side icon - export string

[plain thistle]

probably right click the script you want

[humble ginkgo]

ah nice

now i put it in text document

[echo geyser]

[humble ginkgo]

now

lets see how fucked my shit is gonan be

becauyse I will fuck it up

and I will have to reload my WTF folder

[echo geyser]

no shot u can fuck it up that badly

[humble ginkgo]

how do I delete ceverion thing now

the profile

[echo geyser]

u dont need to but u can

u just swap profile

[humble ginkgo]

I dont want all the buffs shit

yea I know

just cluttering the scripts

bound for me to fuck it up

[echo geyser]

when u swap profile they gone right

or are scripts/mods global?

im actually not sure about that one cause i never had multiple profiles

[cobalt pelican]

scripts will stay unloaded for profiles that don't use them

[echo geyser]

actually

thats true u can just worst case disable enable ones u want lol

u cannot fuck it up @humble ginkgo

[humble ginkgo]

ok

im back

now wot

how do I install the pandemic shit

i just make new script right

[echo geyser]

[humble ginkgo]

?

[echo geyser]

import

[humble ginkgo]

oh

[echo geyser]

isnt there a button for that?

[humble ginkgo]

where like import profile?

i dont see it

[echo geyser]

document with arrow on left top

?

what does it say

[cobalt pelican]

just like look around for like 10 seconds before asking questions wtf

[echo geyser]

< Skip

[humble ginkgo]

Ion even see the document

ohh

the lil icon

i didnt see it

[echo geyser]

its an icon that has a document with down arrow

is that not import?

[humble ginkgo]

it is

[echo geyser]

[humble ginkgo]

so is this gonna be auto on for my current plater?

[echo geyser]

was all his script gone from the list even?

on ur profile

[humble ginkgo]

no

[echo geyser]

then just enable them

dumbazz

[humble ginkgo]

........

[echo geyser]

[humble ginkgo]

for the rupture

didnt work...

[echo geyser]

not enabled

[humble ginkgo]

thought I did

[echo geyser]

is CT pandemic added or even relevant btw? @limber lion

[limber lion]

No, not really relevant.

[humble ginkgo]

oh im fucking dumb

I just added 3 garrote pandemic plater script

[echo geyser]

LMFAO

[humble ginkgo]

and no rupture one

[limber lion]

Bruh.

[humble ginkgo]

I pasted the same one multiple time

[echo geyser]

didnt u say they never dissappeared tho?

[humble ginkgo]

oh my days

now I have to go back

[echo geyser]

like did u even have to import

[humble ginkgo]

no they are gone

[thorny pond]

Who was talking about making their own addons because of memory issues

[humble ginkgo]

onl;y some are stiull here

[thorny pond]

That’s that guy

[echo geyser]

so scripts are not global then

its profile based

[thorny pond]

Yea

[humble ginkgo]

loading ceverion plater again

this shit is scary

[echo geyser]

[humble ginkgo]

its like hacking in the mainframe

[limber lion]

Don't die.

[humble ginkgo]

running codes and shit

[echo geyser]

wait till u learn basic WA making

i can imagine u feel like conquering the matrix probably

[humble ginkgo]

im never making a WA

The closes thing ive gotten to making a WA

is duplicating an exesting one

and changing the spell ID

[echo geyser]

[humble ginkgo]

I have a bunch of weakauras that are called roll the bones

and its trinkets and GS and shit

its working

I am actually insane

holy shit

[echo geyser]

[limber lion]

[civic trellis]

In 2t cleave, sometimes i find myself reapplying rupture inside of shiv windows

[chrome mirage]

Do we always open from stealth/vanish with mut

[civic trellis]

is that normal?

or should i work into that

i mean its practically possible to not use rupture in shiv windows in 2t?

[civic trellis]

or sbs if you are necro

[chrome mirage]

I am necro

So sbs from stealth?

[civic trellis]

necro then, sbs -> snd

[chrome mirage]

What about vanish, still sbs

[civic trellis]

no, muti

[chrome mirage]

Gotcha

[civic trellis]

4 cp vs 3

[balmy condor]

that's normal

[spice spire]

Sbs on opener is just to apply the dot as early as possible, plus it’s a good lead in to the rest of our rotation due to CttC

[strange silo]

Hey doomblade still on shoulders or hands?

nvm just found it in pinned message

[thorny pond]

@balmy condor we just saw a miracle occur! ^^

[shrewd helm]

@strange silo best wait since it goes on cloak in 9.1

[strange silo]

yea saw it 😄 it is safe that its cloak right? so i could buy the cloak now and just make it next week?

[shrewd helm]

Should be fine. It’s going cloak due to domination sockets

[vernal tapir]

For some weird reason there are no ilvl 235 cloaks on my server 😎

[shrewd helm]

That’s rough

Crafters probably stockpiling

[strange silo]

im big time lucky all the other pieces are like 50k+ cloak is 12k 😄

[vernal tapir]

<- I bought them all

[shrewd helm]

how rogue ish

[vernal tapir]

Ill be throwing them down to my fellow rogues at the top of Oribos

For 150k each...

[cerulean nest]

so can we pre-buy the base cloak for doomblade right now?

the rank 4 or whatever

[spice spire]

Yes

[cerulean nest]

sick

[void pecan]

Hold the phone.

We want blade on back now?

[cerulean nest]

grim-veiled cape right?

[balmy condor]

yes

[void pecan]

Confirm or deny overlord @balmy condor. Cape is the go to now? cuz of socket shit?

[cerulean nest]

and are the missives still going to be viable? I can buy crit+haste now and still be able to use them 9.1

[balmy condor]

yes

[balmy condor]

yep

[void pecan]

Cape is only 4k on my server. Neat.

[civic trellis]

what's the prio between rupture and ct in two targets

well that shouldnt happen i guess

[balmy condor]

rup

[hollow river]

CT is ok in 2 target cleave like huntsman

[woven ruin]

What slots are raid sockets gonna be on again?

Head, shoulders, chest, hands and feet for us?

[foggy ember]

Many other classes need cloak Legos?

$$

[white igloo]

anyone know the leggo for sin pvp?

[balmy condor]

#pvp

[balmy condor]

something like that

[balmy condor]

probably a couple

[strange python]

anyone with plater know how to make it easier to see what mobs have sbs in it?

[balmy condor]

there's scripts to recolor plates based on debuffs

[thorny pond]

Make the icon giga huge

[hollow river]

yo can i ask something a bit off topic

[balmy condor]

depends how off topic

[hollow river]

guild search for the everyday rogue boi

was wondering what you do to find guilds, as you just got into another one right?

[balmy condor]

warcraftlogs/wowprog

[hollow river]

kk

did you make a post or just a bunch of apps?

i've tried messaging some from #recruitment but they're all 8/10-CE lol they don't want a 4/10

[spice spire]

There’s also a recruiting discord

[idle shard]

I have an off topic question too

whats the best weakaura for mists maze? lol

[balmy condor]

I personally just apped

[balmy condor]

there's one that's giga downloaded, just check wago

usually isn't your job though

really should be the healer doing that

[idle shard]

yeah, but most of them actually dont do it lol

and its annoying when its my key lmao

[balmy condor]

I see

yeah I rarely pug so I'm unfamiliar with the etiquette of that cesspool

[idle shard]

oh btw whispyr, how much of a dps loss is doing rupture after vendetta vs doing rupture and then vendetta

like, does it matter at all or nah

[hollow river]

Opener wise?

[idle shard]

yup

I realized last night that I was doing it wrong lol

[hollow river]

Are you necro?

[idle shard]

yes

and Im so used to dot first and then pop vendetta + shiv + vanish

[hollow river]

SBS-SnD-mut-gar-rupt-vendetta-mut-shiv-vanish-env-mut-env-mut-env

Something along those lines in ST

[balmy condor]

rupture first is a gain of like 20-25 I think

vendetta before rupture is a big troll move

[hollow river]

This is correct

[idle shard]

nice, then I dont have to change it lmao

cuz it sucks to get used to new openers lol

[spice spire]

I think big trolls are just zandalari aren’t they?

I’ll see myself out

[hollow river]

[idle shard]

lmao

[balmy condor]

mute @spice spire 6000

oh forgot the prefix

I guess you're good this time

[spice spire]

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

[idle shard]

[spice spire]

Thanks homie

[gusty mirage]

mentally ill rogues as per usual

[spice spire]

Truly unlucky to be such a toxic rogue

[hollow river]

I hope everyone has bookmarked and is following infexious’ new google doc

Good stuff

[gusty mirage]

who

[hollow river]

Sec

[gusty mirage]

no, like who the fuck asked infexious to make a guide

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

Oxi with the vault submission

[gusty mirage]

there

[balmy condor]

golden

[gusty mirage]

made the name more fitting

[balmy condor]

is this going to be a problem

[arctic gate]

what is this new google doc, link pls

[balmy condor]

I hope not

every one of infexious's guides have been riddled with nonsense

for years

[hollow river]

DO NOT FOLLOW ANYTHING YOU SEE IN THIS THERE IS NO EVIDENCE NONE OF THIS IS TESTED BY RAVENHOLDT

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16OHsHq0RG4cMfiTkGHn4qyMfRZjp2uZN_9_w29bH168/edit#gid=1369962072

[balmy condor]

aight lets see if I need to delete that

[arctic gate]

now I'm confused

[hollow river]

You may have to

[dawn ivy]

oh no infexious

[hollow river]

Just wanted you boney bois to see

I haven’t peeped it myself

[arctic gate]

You know what I will just trust ravenholdt and whispyr

[hollow river]

That’s what you should do

[gusty mirage]

oh boy

a bis list

[hollow river]

This is memes

[spice spire]

The spelling errors on it

[gusty mirage]

[icy mason]

zandi bwonsamdi isn't even on their racial list. lololo

[cobalt pelican]

they're not spelling errors he's just scottish ok

get tae fuck

[spice spire]

Don’t think even the Scottish spell it gaurdian

Unlucky

[gusty mirage]

oh his outlaw legendary for aoe is wrong

cool

[balmy condor]

eh.......................................................

it's not like

AWFUL

[spice spire]

His legendary for aoe was just execute

[balmy condor]

it's kinda cringe

and sorta misleading

but it's not giga wrong

[spice spire]

Progress?

[gusty mirage]

yeah you just reroll warrior for aoe as assassination

[spice spire]

Excellent

[drifting cloud]

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Infexious guides

[hollow river]

Yep

[gusty mirage]

What's the point of this spreadsheet

I've read it over a few times and I'm still curious

[hollow river]

Idk

[balmy condor]

looks like he sorta did his homework

which is a good start

but I'm still gonna tell people to not follow that shit

[spice spire]

This is the last time I’m doing this, but relevant:

#assassination message

[gusty mirage]

uldir huh

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

HOLD THE FUCK UP

[balmy condor]

the fact that he's going EP SUBT deeper

is super fucking weird

[gusty mirage]

MY MANS IS ENCROACHING ON OUR TERRITORY

[hollow river]

[balmy condor]

does he have some secret ass APL to make subterfuge take off?

[spice spire]

Fexious just a closet whispyr s*mp

[balmy condor]

smells kinda awful

[fleet anchor]

Did someone say sekrit APL

[drifting cloud]

if raid is cleave that means subt > ma

[fleet anchor]

???

[gusty mirage]

yes

[drifting cloud]

same as necro logic!

[gusty mirage]

you put on azerite gear and play shrouded suffocation

[spice spire]

Koji heard APL

[balmy condor]

ep subterfuge deeper on every boss in sanctum apparently

[fleet anchor]

Sounds good

[spice spire]

Someone may as well have pinged him

[balmy condor]

our lord infexious said so

[drifting cloud]

you guys arent playing MP for big wound poison?

[gusty mirage]

must be because we scale so well at 250 ilvl

will all that extra agility

[balmy condor]

so with the subterfuge strats, we going exsang or what

who's with me

[spice spire]

And Crit!!!!

[fleet anchor]

I mean Mystler ran like 49890578976 combos the other day so I'm sure we have a better idea 😄

[gusty mirage]

gonna need the energy refund from venomrush to make DS work

[void pecan]

Wait wait

that idiot actually made a guide?

[balmy condor]

but we don't have a youtube channel

[gusty mirage]

yes

[balmy condor]

maybe we should get one

[fleet anchor]

Mystler has a YT channel!

That bots post comments to all the time

[gusty mirage]

[balmy condor]

constantly in fact, it's one of the most common problematic sources of information this channel sees

it creates content

[fleet anchor]

Mystler should just stream himself opening up his CSVs in Excel

"Content"

[balmy condor]

true

[icy mason]

"The peoples Rogue"

[gusty mirage]

I'd watch it

[spice spire]

Not clickbait enough, truly tragic

[fleet anchor]

I mean it's remotely plausible that Subterfuge could be good at some point but I haven't seen anything yet

That entire row is whatever

[balmy condor]

curiously, watching me melt down on stream cause nothing is implemented in simc got more views than infexious usually sees from what I know

[gusty mirage]

"Secret APL TRICKS that BLIZZARD and RAVENHOLDT don't want you to know about!!!111oneoneoneone"

[hollow river]

But my envenom crits D:

[fleet anchor]

Whispyr had a meltdown on stream?

How unprofessional

[gusty mirage]

he did indeed

we also spent like 15 minutes simming a 252 bell vs current tier trinkets

[spice spire]

Link? Gonna mash that up with fuu mentioning scaling for GIGA content

Ez farm

[fleet anchor]

What isn't implemented? It's just the trinkets and a few soulbind things right?

[balmy condor]

I was trying to make a t27 profile and all the sanctum gear, and all the dungeon gear showed up as empty boxes

[spice spire]

FUCK

[balmy condor]

the gems aren't in

the sylv dagger isn't in

[fleet anchor]

Gem bonuses? But who tf cares about those, it's just fire and forget

Most boring ass system they've added in a while

[balmy condor]

couple of missing trinkets

[fleet anchor]

They may as well just put "+20 Epicness" on the tooltip

Instead of the gem system

[gusty mirage]

LUL

[balmy condor]

basically everything is missing, except the soulbinds and the legendaries

[fleet anchor]

I mean they are the only thing that matters probably

The dagger was already bis

proc or not

[balmy condor]

sure

it's just hard to put sims in the pins

and then have no gems

and no 260 ilvl profile or whatever

will just bring up more questions than answers

[fleet anchor]

Doubt it will change much really

The gems really don't do anything

[balmy condor]

there was talks that dashing will make the sylv daggers better, which would make dashing better than doom, since they're close

due to the increased apm

idk how much I buy it

but that's a thing

[gusty mirage]

[fleet anchor]

I mean they keep tuning the dagger proc every build

[balmy condor]

yeh

[fleet anchor]

Who really knows

[balmy condor]

I just wanted to have the pins done by now

[fleet anchor]

It's almost as if the patch is kinda unfinished 😦

[balmy condor]

and there's stuff missing

so pins are hard

and that makes me exsangery

[fleet anchor]

I mean you are forgetting the fact that they will do random hotfixes the first 2 weeks anyway

[balmy condor]

sure

[fleet anchor]

So you're gonna have to change it all for Mythic anyway

[rugged saddle]

me like pins 🙂

[balmy condor]

I'm fine with that though

[gusty mirage]

the pins like you too

they told me :3

[balmy condor]

having stuff to show before the patch is nice to have

if I have to update it during the patch, I have to update it during the patch

[hollow river]

If it matters at all

[rugged saddle]

Yay

[hollow river]

None of the other discord’s have any of it implemented either

[balmy condor]

well yeah

[fleet anchor]

Pins: "Do the same thing you did because nothing actually changed for Rogue, horray!" 😛

[balmy condor]

that's cause the patch is rushed as hell

[hollow river]

Yep

[balmy condor]

I think this is why I'm the pins guy and you're the simcraft guy

[hollow river]

Everyone else is just saying “do as you were”

[gusty mirage]

have we tried ptr=fullyimplementedpls yet?

[hollow river]

Until heroic week

[fleet anchor]

The biggest change we have to make is annoyingly recrafting our legendary slot

[balmy condor]

ptr=TRUE

[fleet anchor]

Basically nothing else will change tbh

[gusty mirage]

How about ptr=html:noimagefound ? @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

the missing image boxes

haunt me in my sleep

[fleet anchor]

Just take your existing pins and add 1k DPS to all the numbers in photoshop and call it good

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

how bold of you to assume that this man uses photoshop

he's a ms paint savant

[spice spire]

Gimp user if I’ve ever seen one

Absolute animal

[hollow river]

Lmao

[balmy condor]

ms paint in fact

PAINT3D IF IM FEELING MYSELF

[hollow river]

Add 3k

Make us look disgusting op

[balmy condor]

if I just add ptr=1 to the pins, will they magically update

[gusty mirage]

I got you

[hollow river]

LOL

[fleet anchor]

Seamless

[hollow river]

There we go

[fleet anchor]

You're a Comic Sans guy right?

[gusty mirage]

show off

[balmy condor]

I'm an expressway guy

[spice spire]

Koji is HUGE

[balmy condor]

expressway for all UI elements

or else

expressway is the only font to exist

[gusty mirage]

damn expressway is kinda clean

[spice spire]

Cubism or gtfo

[balmy condor]

◻︎⧫︎❒︎🖬︎📂︎ ♓︎⬧︎ ♌︎♓︎⬧︎

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

Ahh

[balmy condor]

the meme within a meme

[gusty mirage]

I heard ◻︎⧫︎❒︎ ♓︎⬧︎ ⧫︎❒︎◆︎♏︎ works better though

[hollow river]

Once you get the items on PTR or on live after patch

Would /simc just solve the issues or no

Without the APL

I assume not

[balmy condor]

the APL is fine

we just need the items and the gems to work

and then we're chillin