assassination

[stoic needle]

or just stack even more mastery

[tropic drum]

is doomblade literally only decent for ST?

[stoic needle]

and do like 10k overall

[tropic drum]

raiding, pvp etc

[stoic needle]

yes

technically it's good for 2 targets

[thorny pond]

Once you start adding in FoK to the rotation it loses value

every GCD you don't mutilate or envenom becomes more DPS value for Zold

[stoic needle]

yep

[tropic drum]

cheers bois

[stoic needle]

you can get some use out of doomblade in sanguine depths(because of the pull size and the last boss) theater of pain and plaguefall

[tropic drum]

ill prob run it in tyr on some dgns as my group lacks ST

[thorny pond]

Sang is the only place I don't like zolds but I also don't like DB

[tropic drum]

need to get to torgy tho for zold ;d

[thorny pond]

Zolds is still strong ST

[stoic needle]

and tyrannical still needs AOE

for all of the trash

[stoic needle]

if i could choose any legendary to run in SD it'd probably be dashing

[thorny pond]

Yep, the dungeons are still primarily trash

[stoic needle]

but i don't have dashing and probably won't ever craft it because doomspike

[alpine latch]

Do you guys run the Heirmir soulbind tree in the pins for m+ and raid or is it just one?

[thorny pond]

and you pull around trash packs

I keep 1 tree

Will swap shiv cond and SBS conds depending on boss

but it's like 90/10 split

[stoic needle]

i run emeni when there's double melee dps or a hpal in keys otherwise i run heirmir

[alpine latch]

I don't even have the SBS conduit yet. Fucking thing won't drop

[stoic needle]

and i use sudden fractures everywhere xcept sludgefist

i still only have a 200

[thorny pond]

I got good value out of shiv cond on stupid bosses. Shriek, Sludge, Council (I don't recommend
but we had 4 booms and 2 locks)

[rigid pine]

I just swapped to necrolord two days ago and yesterday pugged heroic denathrius and got 213 sf

[jovial horizon]

like you don't have it at all? it should drop from world boss I thought

[stoic needle]

idk like the sbs conduit sims better than WPS in ST and aoe

the only reason i'd run WPS is for sludgefist pillars

[thorny pond]

At = ilvl for me they sim the same

[stoic needle]

i have 200 wps and 200 SF and sf is like 10 dps better in all sims

[thorny pond]

Prob all your mastery

Oh cool, I had one 200 cond left and I bought the venari bs

sweet

@stoic needle what is your mastery currently?

[stoic needle]

ehm

32% in M+, 30% on st

[thorny pond]

I have more than you. Fux

[stoic needle]

ST

aoe

[thorny pond]

You've got that good good vers

[stoic needle]

3% vers

not really, 8% is low

there are some outlaws and sub players with like 25%+

[thorny pond]

thats my dh

[stoic needle]

in my sub set i just started putting together i have 15% with no legendary

nowhere near enough

32% crit tho

[fervent fog]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[north basin]

Massive mastery gear for meme purposes,

?

[stoic needle]

For mythic plus

[leaden pawn]

Do poisons like numbing/wound work on bosses and give their intended effects?

[ocean zodiac]

im a new flag boy can anyone tell me what this means

the second part

[thorny pond]

If the fight length is such that you won't lose a cast of flag

then line it up with vendetta

So if you'd only get 2 casts of each no matter what, sync them

if you'd get 2 vend and 3 flag, desync

[ocean zodiac]

ah okay so always sync expect if you dont have that last vendetta and he is about to die

[thorny pond]

Not necessarily. I use small # as an example

Like a 445 fight you'd get 3 vendettas and 4 flag if you desync. Sync'd at start then 130 Flag, 300 flag, 430 flag

0/2/4 vend

[limber lion]

Megasalo trolling

[fallen fable]

Should I listen to sim and open with SbS?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[thorny pond]

Yes

[fallen fable]

Hmm okey. Thanks 🙂

[balmy condor]

I’ve looked at openers many times

Moving stuff around is like 90% of the time completely irrelevant, or worse but still irrelevant

Realistically if you don’t follow the opener but still follow the general rules of your shiv/vanish usages, put up dots before cooldowns

It’s fine

[echo estuary]

So would conduit levels/ conduits being empowered potentially determine if you would play the new venth leggo or not? Idk if sims were done with empowered conduits in mind or not :o

I assume they were tho

(Bored at work thinking about rogue things ya know..)

[balmy condor]

Conduit ranks are actually quite small in terms of overall gain

It would help

But it’s in no way enough to make obedience pop

[echo estuary]

I know you also get the conduit slot empowered by renown but last I checked that was pretty small too lol

[balmy condor]

The empowerment is just extra ranks

[alpine latch]

Biggest thing is just shiv -> vanish -> envenom, right?

[balmy condor]

I mean, sure

Shiv vanish env, vanish mut, vanish mut mut env, vanish mut env mut

Doesn’t matter

[strange python]

whats the best scaling sin conduit

is it the necrolord conduit?

[balmy condor]

[thorny pond]

If you had a nickle for everyone who read the pins, you'd be broke Whispyr

[strange python]

im not saying whats the best rn

just what do you think will scale the best with ilv upgrades

😉

[spice spire]

Scaling

[thorny pond]

#assassination message

[stoic needle]

What is the best scaling sin legendary?

[thorny pond]

Greenskins

[stoic needle]

It's gotta be zoldyck

[echo estuary]

HP scales best with ilvl

[thorny pond]

Me: equips leggo
Me: "Oh look I do more DPS, I must scale!"

[echo estuary]

⚖️

[thorny pond]

Balance of Power questline was ass

[hot chasm]

Does Shiv work retroactively? If I Sepsis then Shiv, does it boost the remaining tics?

[balmy condor]

yes

[hot chasm]

cool

[balmy condor]

we don't have snapshots

[austere swallow]

snapshotting was cancer

imo

[balmy condor]

that's why they removed it

[austere swallow]

yee

[stoic needle]

Bring back snapshotting

Snapshotting was good

[thorn skiff]

Any one can tell me is Assa necro viable in Mythic Raids in 9,0,5 and 9,1? Or should i play outlaw in pve

[thorny pond]

are you me?

[spice spire]

Silence, zoomer.

[balmy condor]

necro is good

[spice spire]

[carmine token]

Made the switch from 222 hunter to 214 'sin in my raid group while we prog xymox. Roast me bb (log review please). What i see is prob dot uptime and capped energy? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DRr1x2qy8Vndgcjv#fight=1&type=damage-done
Figured mythic shriek good fight because its braindead to solidfy that i'm doing things correctly.

[stoic needle]

I'm just an enjoyer of specs with depth

Not ooga booga envenom spam

[thorn skiff]

good enough to get spot in mythic raids?

[stoic needle]

Yes

Ur covenant won't stop you from getting a mythic raid spot

Nor your class

Any guild would be absolutely insane to not want a rogue right now if they don't have any

[limber lion]

Literally nothing will stop you from getting a raid spot other than yourself.

[thorn skiff]

Ty guys

[vast forum]

crit haste or crit mastery on zoldyck? 🤔

[limber lion]

Depends on what your planning to use it on, but Crit/Haste is a good bet.

[fallen arch]

Why would you slap mastery on that?

[vast forum]

execute patchwerk sims say crit/mastery

[fallen arch]

For m+?

[vast forum]

normal sims say crit haste

[limber lion]

Mastery is a good stat on AoE and Zoldyck is generally used in aoe/m+

[vast forum]

mastery is also good for m+

[limber lion]

If Crit/Mast sims better for you, then just do that

It doesn't really matter thaaat much

[vast forum]

starting denathrius prog soon on rogue with alt guild so idk

also i simmed as venthyr but will swap necro soon

[stoic needle]

Mastery also has sightly increased value when you have lots of downtime from mechanics

[vast forum]

haste might get extra value without flag

[stoic needle]

If you spend a lot of time running for your life and all of your damage is coming from gar/rup/poisons

Mastery

[vast forum]

i'm not a pussy, i don't run for my life 😄

i proc cheat death or die trying

[vocal charm]

How’s the venthyr legendary doing on the PTR?

[stoic needle]

Worse than doomblade

[vocal charm]

Oof

By a lot?

[stoic needle]

I don't remember the exact number but it's enough that it's not worth using for sin

@balmy condor where ptr sims

[balmy condor]

sin doesn't have changes

it's just the covenant legos, which aren't impressive

[rose ermine]

Sin still strong?

[balmy condor]

just as strong as now

[stoic needle]

Deathspike not impressive?

[balmy condor]

deathspike for sure getting nerfed

[stoic needle]

nO

[spice spire]

LMAO

[stoic needle]

No touchy deathspike

[floral pollen]

Btw why is it 'sin' and not 'assa'?

[balmy condor]

because we're american

[stoic needle]

Assa just sounds weird

And it's an extra letter

[spice spire]

Apparently across the pond they call it assa

I’m a sinner and proud 😤

[austere swallow]

I'm swedish and sin is just what I've always called it

just easier, and I'm a lazy fuck so I love easy stuff

[floral pollen]

Came back after years and was really confused for a while 😅😂

[stoic needle]

Sometimes you get a real weird one who says 'mut'

[austere swallow]

that's asia from my experience

or people who played in bc when mutilate was new

[floral pollen]

I remember it was called like that when it was a talent in bc

[austere swallow]

ye

[balmy condor]

most of NA is sin, most of EU is assa

that's pretty much just it

[stoic needle]

Ass rogue

Bis

[floral pollen]

My prime was in 2012-2014 I guess 😆

When harp was a valid pvp spec (mother of God)

[feral merlin]

It's sin because we go venthyr

[frail fossil]

mut rogue

[feral merlin]

Gotta put this in pins: sin=NA, assa=EU, mut=CN

Ass=bis

[vast forum]

thighs > ass

then again, they don't go in the same slot so ass is still bis 🙂

[stoic needle]

[frail fossil]

[stoic needle]

Ass > all

[frail fossil]

this is a good christian server osho

[stoic needle]

Hail Satan

[vast forum]

tbf 99% of the time, good legs are accompanied by good ass

[balmy condor]

#off-topic that way

[vast forum]

@balmy condor don't you off-topic me

[rose ermine]

tru

[vast forum]

i'm allowed to comment on ass in ass channel

there's even 2 asses in assassination

[balmy condor]

idk, I know of at least 3 in this channel

[carmine token]

Whisp, can you take a look at my logs pretty plez

[vast forum]

link them here so we can all judge you

whispyr is too nice

[stoic needle]

Toxic

[carmine token]

Died on Hungering, but first two bosses on mythic were decent. Just seeing if i have some solid ST fundamentals down and what to improve upon https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DRr1x2qy8Vndgcjv#fight=1&type=damage-done

[limber lion]

Whispyr? Nice?

[balmy condor]

:) wait till you hear who it is

[vast forum]

whispyr has always been nice to me, even when i flamed him for preaching EB crit build in workshop

[stoic needle]

[balmy condor]

the trick is, you don't want to know

[limber lion]

You sometimes use Mutilate and Ambush at max-1 combo points and Garrote at max. Don't do that.

[fleet whale]

I still remember the days assassination was known as "mut" or "mutilate" rogue

[limber lion]

You also overcap on energy quite a bit on Hungering Destroyer. Make sure to starve yourself before consume or expunges or whatnot.

[carmine token]

hungering is a clusterfuck

[vestal wren]

wait, does this mean i am only allowed to refer to assassination as assa?

[carmine token]

and its because im bad

[limber lion]

You also miss out on many Shiv casts.

[stoic needle]

I know you're going to say me

[carmine token]

and have to call out healer CDs + dmg + not die

[limber lion]

Just press Shiv on CD my boy

[carmine token]

okkk

[stoic needle]

Toxspyr

[limber lion]

Yeah, that's the thing. HD is the easiest fight to analyze

But I'll take a look at Shriekwing as well

[carmine token]

fosho

[balmy condor]

I didn't say that

why would you think that

[carmine token]

i think i hyperfocus on stuff sometimes and forget that little small icon will be less derpy

[stoic needle]

Just a hunch

[limber lion]

@carmine token

1. Press Shiv on cooldown
2. Press Flagellation on cooldown
3. Might wanna check your opener, it's not very ideal.

Bleed uptime is good, you don't waste energy on Shriekwing like you did on HD and you don't press abilities at max cp, so it's definitely the stress of the fight getting to you on HD.

But just improve on those 3 things and you're gucci.

[carmine token]

Yeah in my head I'm trying to get optimal MA time

Dots + MA is not a thing is it?

Just initial dmg but not tick dmg?

[balmy condor]

what

[carmine token]

Talent crit increase

[balmy condor]

you get 50% crit during the duration of ma

50% crit is 50% crit

[limber lion]

I mean your MA window is fine. You just use Vendetta and Flag way too late and for whatever reason you reapply SnD.

[carmine token]

If a dot is applied during that

Does it crit for duration?

[balmy condor]

the duration of ma

[carmine token]

Ohhhhhhhjhjjjjhhhhh

[balmy condor]

3 seconds

50% crit, for 3 seconds

[carmine token]

I come from a game where snapshotting is a thing. Is it not here?

[balmy condor]

no

[carmine token]

So I can stop reapplying dots during sludges pillar window too??

Oh fak

[limber lion]

Just keep your bleeds up, don't overcap energy, press everything on cooldown and you're gucci.

[limber lion]

Yes. You should reapply before he hits the pillars and only smash Envenoms/Mutilates during the pillar.

[carmine token]

Sorry I mean letting them drop to apply then fresh

Wow. I should have learned this weeks ago hahaha

[limber lion]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
RH: https://www.ravenholdt.net/guides/assassination-rogue-guide-shadowlands-raid-dps/
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide

[limber lion]

^ Those are good resources to go with.

And

But yeah, you got the basics down. Just press everything on cd and fix your opener and you're gucci.

[carmine token]

I think I've read them but just didn't retain the part about dots

[carmine token]

Will do. Thanks boss

[limber lion]

[obtuse ruin]

how does serrated bone spike work in pvp?

when does it fall off?

[wide bolt]

target dies or is healed to full i believe

[obtuse ruin]

alright

[limber lion]

Or drops combat.

[frosty bridge]

Wait

Belf 1% crit doesn't DR, right?

[balmy condor]

no, because it's not rating

[frosty bridge]

Pog

31% crit

[stoic needle]

Doesn't fall off when they're healed anymore

[balmy condor]

@gloomy rose @stoic needle did you guys come to conclusion on the CT vs PB thing

[stoic needle]

I still have no idea how talenting into CT and not using it is the same dps as using it

[balmy condor]

?

cause the difference in envenoms casts

[gloomy rose]

no not really, it was not that much CT vs PB, more like when you have CT if it is worth using on ST and my sims showed very small difference

[stoic needle]

i mean the envenom cast damage % went up to match what the ct damage % is when it's used

i'm just suprised that it's exactly the same damage

[balmy condor]

yes, it used to be very minimal

doomblade pulls that up

[stoic needle]

what's the point in CT on ST then

I can definitely see some value in like, CT right before a mechanic hits and you're forced to move

[balmy condor]

yes

that's the point

it's also mostly zold

[stoic needle]

so it's more of a loss to not use CT when talented into it with zoldyck than with doomblade

[mint anvil]

Oh, I just thought of CT as an aoe finisher, didn’t realize I have to use it as a ST dot instead of envenom

[echo geyser]

whats the reasoning behind last set of talents for assa on sire mythic?

i see people play all

[balmy condor]

HB is p1 pad

CT is for zold with movement for p3

[stoic needle]

well you don't really lol

[balmy condor]

PB is fine cause it's single target

[echo geyser]

if i doomblade pb is fine?

[balmy condor]

yes

[echo geyser]

im necro too

[mint anvil]

ELI5 please

[vital haven]

dude necro is god tier

[stoic needle]

PB is kinda shitty because sire gets moved out of the poison bomb so much

[echo geyser]

blindside/EP is just sim right?

also is it normal i feel starved outta my mind playing deeper?

[stoic needle]

(with doomblade) it's exactly the same dps to use ct or not use it at all on st

[balmy condor]

you can play EP/vig or BS/Deeper

[stoic needle]

EP for farm, BS for prog generally

[echo geyser]

am i just too used to outlaw regen?

[stoic needle]

yes

but deeper is slower than vigor

[gloomy rose]

also thanks for coming back to the topic

[echo geyser]

ye

[mint anvil]

gotcha thx

[echo geyser]

deeper seems to be more value on sire tho cause of the SBS giving more cp right

in p2 p3 for a bit

like the adds dont "die"

[stoic needle]

yeah it lowers the chance of you overcapping

and it's just more damage

[echo geyser]

do u just pop on cd vendetta?

or any holds

[sinful cradle]

on progress i'd use vendetta once in p2 then twice in p3

[stoic needle]

hold at the end of P1

and yeah twice in p3

u should probably have an assignment for vendetta in p2

[sinful cradle]

for farm I guess ppl could use twice in p2 if they get assigned to blast first set of big adds

[echo geyser]

not having hook is gonna feel bad for the platforms

or can u just step to adds?

[nimble tartan]

omfg guys i got blue parse on mythic sire but rank 22 for boss dam ty #assassination for keeping me honest and not padding p1

[sinful cradle]

step to first adds

and if youre assigned to gloomveil you gateway

or step to friend outside the "veil"

[echo geyser]

what about in p3 the overlaps

[stoic needle]

definitely take the shadowstep conduit

[echo geyser]

do u just have to rely on a friend to step?

[stoic needle]

step to a dk for the p3 overlap

[echo geyser]

o dk

[stoic needle]

or you can cloak and run into the massacre and get booped out

[frail fossil]

why are u always like this bro

[nimble tartan]

im just a team player bro

[sinful cradle]

yeah macro step to a good dk or bribe the pala

[dawn ivy]

@stoic needle booped?

[stoic needle]

after months of schilling zoldyck for sire i cant decide whether im gonna be a good boy and run zold or be a dirty degen padder and run doomblade

the knockback

[dawn ivy]

oh bop

[stoic needle]

no boop as in knocked

like

[nimble tartan]

bro i run doomblade

[stoic needle]

he boops you

[frail fossil]

doomblade$

[stoic needle]

idk if my guild will reclear i kinda wanna fiend for a parse on our first kill

i'm traumatized after my 8 on sludge man

[nimble tartan]

dont do it bro

keep it the same baby

[stoic needle]

im gonna have a shit parse on slg too because we do the slow strat

i need something decent before the tier is over

[nimble tartan]

we do slow strat too super slow

but its ok baby fuck a parse!!

[stoic needle]

they make us kill the commandos in p2 intermission one by one bro

one by one

[nimble tartan]

all the best chad players i know not even parsegods...

[dire violet]

250 pulls in to slg, I just want to kill them at this point.

[stoic needle]

we're like 120

i swear to god the next time we make it into p3 they're dead

[dire violet]

The true test of a chad is look at their council kill and see the damage done in the last phase and just how much pointless aoeing they did.

[stoic needle]

i'm gonna be 5/10CE

went from a pugged huntsman kill to a 7/10 guild

[dawn ivy]

played outlaw for the first time this expac on slg last night and got a 41, felt like i had dementia, i knew all my buttons but i didnt know what they were actually doing

[stoic needle]

that's just outlaw in general

outlaw brain

[dawn ivy]

i straight 99d any boss the last two tiers on outlaw but i come back and nothing makes sense LMAO

[stoic needle]

did people even play outlaw in raid in 8.3

[balmy condor]

yes

[dawn ivy]

H I V E M I N D

[stoic needle]

i was playing classic so i missed it all

[dawn ivy]

hivemind scratched the shiny goblin part of my brain

the amount of 5 buffs i got on that fight oh baby

[thorny pond]

Hivemind can go f*** itself

Also my guild made me go outlaw all tier 8.3 and they never killed nzoth so

[glacial bough]

what conduits do you beautiful people tend to run? rn im using well placed steel and lashing scars

[stoic needle]

if you're venthyr lashing scars/dauntless or lashing/wasteland

[dawn ivy]

i cri everytiem i think about sin conduits

[stoic needle]

yeah they're so bad

[summer socket]

newer to sin rogue. is doomblade that crazy for ST dmg? i have zoldycks currently

[vale quest]

is sin a meme in m+?

[alpine latch]

Not really, no

Are you running 25s?

[vale quest]

yeah but lower people still only invite certain specs too

[alpine latch]

People are stupid

[solid venture]

with EP / vigor, do u just spam finishers asap to keep the EP buff going? or still pool to not overwrite envenom buff? what's the prio here

[alpine latch]

Nothing changes that

[vale quest]

true

[balmy condor]

you still pool

[alpine latch]

Sin can handle 20+. It's not as good as Outlaw, but unless you're pushing every key to 25+ it really doesn't matter.

[topaz gazelle]

On what gear piece should i craft Zoldyk ?

[balmy condor]

leg

[winter gale]

Guys we are progressing Sire Mythic and I am prio for Sire st dmg

[balmy condor]

that's how sin works yeh

[winter gale]

On start of phase 2 I dont need to pop cds for that right leutenant but rather on sire?

Where excatly there on sire?

Atm I am doting sire when we drop down, then port to the leutenant, use cds to smash him and tbh we are overkilling him so I have time to redot sire and remornia there before getting pulled by sire

Should I drop off those cds and pop em on sire? Issue is that we are jumpingf from 1 leutenant to other and there is no real time to spend those on sire

And we do lack 1,2% for push him to p3

[limber lion]

!oil

[prisma monolith]

Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ

[silent stratus]

shiv at max cp to maximize # envenoms?

or optimally at max -1?

[limber lion]

Max-1

[silent stratus]

in case I am at max and shiv is offcd, is it better shiv + env, or env + shiv?

[limber lion]

Also wouldn't those 2 cancel each other? Maximizing the amount of Envenoms and using Envenoms at max cp

[limber lion]

Shiv + Env

Always Shiv on CD

[silent stratus]

even if it's a 1cp wasted

I guess

ty

[alpine latch]

Do you hold Shiv for Vendetta? Or hold Vendetta for Shiv?

[limber lion]

Hold Shiv for around 10-12s max if Vendetta is coming off cooldown.

If Shiv comes off cd and you have 15s until Vend, you Shiv insta

As long as you get the full Shiv effect inside the Vendetta. Doesn't matter if it's in the beginning of the Vendetta (the first 9s of Vend) or the end (the last 9s of Vend)

[balmy condor]

woah dude sick info where'd you get it

[limber lion]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-不造-i-dont-know-gif-5094560

[balmy condor]

if only we had a consolidated area where info like that could be found

man

sucks that discord doesn't have a feature for it

[limber lion]

If only

[spice spire]

I too wish there was a consolidated place to show all the important information pertinent to the spec.

If only it existed 😦

[void gazelle]

on SLG can we burst skirmisers?

[stoic needle]

assassination doesn't burst

[limber lion]

And available at all times without ever having to interact with others

[whole mason]

what do you mean by burst?

[stoic needle]

i've pugged my way to 1700 rio and have gotten declined/kicked for being sin less than 5 times

[limber lion]

I was #4 on commando shield damage on our kill

[stoic needle]

[limber lion]

Both mages, both warlocks and both SP's below

Assa veri stonk bursterino

[stoic needle]

were your mages asleep?

no windwalkers?

[limber lion]

I wish we had a monk man

[feral merlin]

I don't understand, you alone were assigned a shield?

[limber lion]

Can't even parse without a monk

[stoic needle]

look at my fucking raid comp bro

[feral merlin]

Oh damage done...

[stoic needle]

the commandos and skirmishers literally just cease to exist

[feral merlin]

Wtf???

[stoic needle]

TWO ELEMENTAL

TWO WW

[limber lion]

Sheez blasters

[stoic needle]

a FROST

FURY AND A HAVOC

[limber lion]

Our elemental shammies and havoc were also below me

[stoic needle]

[feral merlin]

Wait that's all aoe

[stoic needle]

how do you see shield damage?

[whole mason]

details show that

[stoic needle]

both monks do at least 8k dps every single pull

its disgusting

[feral merlin]

Should be a spot in logs for specific adds but idk about shield

[limber lion]

Put "absorbedDamage > 0" in the Filter Expression in WCL

[stoic needle]

ty

[limber lion]

I'm so sad. I got a rank 37 on Huntsman and we don't have a fucking monk in our group

Would have been a proper good parse if we had a monk

[stoic needle]

one of the tanks is above me

hes a venthyr warrior

but still

I don't do shit except pump goliaths

[crimson sleet]

how do u play that 2nd Ravage on Dena M ? ( the one wehre same time the Masacre is and the knockback )

[stoic needle]

goliath obliterator

[feral merlin]

Stop pumping the Goliath and the team will start appreciating you lol

[glacial bough]

do u guys always line up lashing and vendetta?

[whole mason]

M Sire?

you run into red puddle

[stoic needle]

they still die a bit too slow at times so i don't think i can afford to do anything but pump the goliath

maybe dot the bosses more

[crimson sleet]

Mythic sire on P3

[whole mason]

pop your cloak and run into red puddle for a distance for kb

mostlikely you'll land near center safely

[crimson sleet]

kk ill try :D, its like an 20% chance right now taht i am ded 😄

[whole mason]

unless you planned your 2nd vend there, you need to keep pumping dmg and shadowstep to a dk or warrior

[crimson sleet]

ill pump 2nd vend after that

[spice spire]

I’m around the top damage on sun king shields

Funnel king btw

[whole mason]

but be aware that your shadowstep land you right behind the target, which is not guaranteed a safe spot.

[limber lion]

I'm always benched on SKS

[silent stratus]

EP + MfD sims higher than EP + Vigor in cleave add -> should I go for it for hutnsman?

[spice spire]

I do fuck all damage outside of that tho

My overall is like disturbingly low 4.8ish. But I’ll go from like 2.1 on ad part (pedestal bitch xd) to 4.8 on kaelthas

[wary ice]

lucky

[whole mason]

if you're still in progress and running zoldyck, my choice is vend at 2nd blood price and pop the 2nd vend near the end.

[spice spire]

Tl;dr sin not that great for SKS

[wary ice]

any time we wipe i raise my hand to be replaced by a healer

that fight is so fucking dumb

[spice spire]

It’s really just a cheese fight tbh

[limber lion]

That's why you don't get all star points from it

[whole mason]

always 0 all star point in SKS

[wary ice]

Its probably jointly responsible for my burn out on the teir between that and refusal to extend lockouts for prog

[spice spire]

The damage check is pretty low outside of the barrier for the fight. It’s just an annoying fight

[hollow dirge]

There’s no dmg check outside od the barrier. Crap fight.
Those kind of bosses nobody likes, yet each raid has to have one or two

[spice spire]

I mean you don’t wanna get the third barrier on the SK phase that’s really the only check

But yeah, that ones definitely on the south side for me

Huntsman is growing on me - the mythic mechanic is honestly neat. Wasn’t a huge fan in heroic but I think mythic it’s pretty sick

[wary ice]

took me a minute to find sorry:

Great fight design btw

[spice spire]

LMAO. Same though

That’s probably about how mine looks

[wary ice]

my first button was pressed 35 seconds in, it was feint

[rocky breach]

hey everyone, quick question. With subterfuge, on single target, isn't ambush better than mutilate?

after the garrote is applied

[spice spire]

Lately I’ve been able to open on the trash at least

!mut

[prisma monolith]

Ambush is currently only used from blindside/sepsis proc, not from stealth.
The reasoning is a little complicated, but the most important of them is the difference in combo points on crit (up to 4 vs 3).
Some other factors to consider are increased poison applications, blindside, and doomblade. This is true for all talent combinations and legendaries.

[wary ice]

I literally cant :/ my raid lead grabs the pedestal after me and he knows if im padding the opening cause his CDs last as long as the pedestal channel :/

[spice spire]

OOOOOF.
I get to fok - Rupture - FoK - Rupture - FoK - CT, maybe another rupture in and then if I’m not picking up the pedestal there’s heck to pay 😠

Not really, the RL for the group I’m in is super great. It just helps it move along quicker

[wary ice]

Honestly i dont care

I'll do anything to make that fight end sooner

[spice spire]

I don’t either, fight sux. If me not doing dam makes it happen faster I’m all for it

[wary ice]

fucking waste of time tbh

[spice spire]

My singular job is hit boss during shields and make sure we don’t get a third shield phase. Also don’t make the fire go wonky.
Inerva also infinitely more fun in mythic at least.

[cedar cloak]

does anyone know if you should line up flagellation up with anything or just press on cd? (after opener as venthyr)

[spice spire]

He’s quick

[balmy condor]

screenshotting pins is indeed quite speedy

[cedar cloak]

SPEED

i don't understand the only line up with vend if you won't miss a cast

[balmy condor]

flag comes up, minute left in the fight

you're not getting the cd back

so you line it up with whatever you can

[spice spire]

So like. At 6 minutes - you can either cast vendetta and flag together 3 times. Or you can cast flag 4 times and vendetta 3 times.

But at say, four minutes. You’d just line it up.

[cedar cloak]

makes sense yeah

[spice spire]

Bad timing example - but point is better from whispyr papi ><

[cedar cloak]

Back to checking logs again now Thank you lads

[spice spire]

Good luck papi

[gritty heron]

!bis

[balmy condor]

gone

[gritty heron]

shiet

[alpine latch]

How do you guys use Vendetta in m+? Do you save it for certain pulls or do you just use it at the start of whatever pull it comes off of CD on?

[spice spire]

I usually just use it whenever it comes off CD - that’s probably really fucking dumb but I don’t like losing casts personally

[stoic needle]

THEY NERFED DEATHSPIKE

IT DOESN'T APPLY THE DOT TO THE SECONDARY TARGETS ANYMORE

[spice spire]

F.

Osh in shambles

[hollow dirge]

It was bound to happen. I think it will be by far the most op leggo for m+ nontheless

[stoic needle]

p sure this will make it dramatically worse

[spice spire]

Where is this by the way?

[stoic needle]

I'm testing it on the PTR right now

[spice spire]

Ohhhhhh I see.
I was like I don’t see a post 😡

[hollow dirge]

You still tab and hit multiple targets with dot, and that dot aint it’s main source of dmg anyway

[stoic needle]

it's a major source of the damage for sin because it scales with our mastery

[spice spire]

Mastery simps in shambles rn

Sorry s*mps

[stoic needle]

https://tenor.com/view/reee-pepe-frog-angry-angery-gif-18421495

[balmy condor]

I mean

[hollow dirge]

I’m sure it’s a big nerf, but I think it will easily be the best m+ leggo anyway

[balmy condor]

it was a major source of damage

because it's a fairly good dot

the dot was already quite good without the mastery

[cedar cloak]

Got a last question for now then i'm good to go learn assa

How accurate is the ravenholdt website?

[stoic needle]

now it's going to give less CP too

[balmy condor]

should be up to date

[hollow dirge]

Yeah, but you have 5 charges

So you just have to tab more

[stoic needle]

you would get 5cp after the second spike in m+

that was half of the draw of the legendary

[hollow dirge]

It’s still strong, but now it’s more annoying 😂

[cedar cloak]

Aight ty, caused i was just reading the shiv part since i haven't played rogue in a while

[stoic needle]

it's a lot less strong now

less cp, less damage

[spice spire]

Wait that’s two of our favorite things.. fuck

[stoic needle]

I WILL NOT ALLOW THIS TO STAND

[wary ice]

More like dead spike

[subtle gyro]

Question, as Sin, do you use Flagellation on CD, or stack it with Vend?

[stoic needle]

plz bug report deathspike on the ptr to save my boy from this terrible fate

ok i'm so confused now

it's not applying the dot on target dummies

but it works on mobs in the open world

[hollow dirge]

Oh, maybe you just prematurely ejaculated

[stoic needle]

prematurely malded*

[hollow dirge]

Happens to the best of us😂

[ornate charm]

We need that legendary to be good

[stoic needle]

i mean i went to every dummy in the necrolord hall and tried it and it didn't work so it was pretty conclusive lol

[hollow river]

Are there regular style dummies in the necro lord hall?

[stoic needle]

yeah

they're just named weird shit

[balmy condor]

guides are usually a good place to start

[gusty mirage]

@limber lion you have them now

[limber lion]

<3 you're the best

[gusty mirage]

no u

[void gazelle]

how should i do dmg to adds on SLG as a night fae? rupture them all and CT?

[wanton lava]

My guild is on mythic sludge. Was gonna make a assassin set for it. Should i just make the zoldyck leggo or is it worth makin the Doomblade leggo since it sims higher for single target?

[indigo mulch]

How do i sim p3 sire?

[limber lion]

Nah, just gar/rup the boss and Goliath. SBS/CT the skirmishers.

[limber lion]

Execute Patchwork 3mins

[indigo mulch]

Kk

[limber lion]

Doomblade is the better choice for Sludgefist as you want to maximize your damage output during pillar vulnerability windows.

[indigo mulch]

I wanna see the difference between doom and zoldycks

[wanton lava]

Ok. Makes sense. Thank you

[lost cloak]

I'm on m sludge, should I hold envenom for after he stomps instead of before, even if I'll be overcapping cp due to poisoned knife?

[balmy condor]

what

why would you be throwing poisoned knives

[limber lion]

Don't... press... poisoned knife

[lost cloak]

because i can't hit the boss?

[balmy condor]

dump your energy

deal with the mechanic

then come back

?

[limber lion]

You also won't be capping your energy if you starve yourself.

[lost cloak]

so i should envenom even if I'm not going to get any of its buff value?

[stoic needle]

yes

[balmy condor]

of course

it does damage

sitting on the cp does not

you should starve yourself before mechanics

anything else would be silly

[lost cloak]

Okay then I'm not sure what I'm doing to perform so poorly on the fight

[balmy condor]

do you have logs

90% of the time it's not using cooldowns on pillars tbh

[lost cloak]

Vendetta is open-2-4 right?

[balmy condor]

everything is open-2-4

hold sbs charges, hold every other shiv

[lost cloak]

sbs?

[balmy condor]

if you're necro

[lost cloak]

oh

[spice spire]

Serrated bone spike

[lost cloak]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8qgTJWZBp4HLwdfY/#fight=23&type=damage-done&source=12

[balmy condor]

do you have a kill log

[lost cloak]

no

that's 8% wipe though, so most of the fight

holding every other shiv is not something I knew i was supposed to do. I just started hard casting on cd instead of pooling

[balmy condor]

you trolled the second pillar by casting sepsis at 1:35

the vend was too late on it as well now that I'm looking at it, and you refreshed rupture during it

you also used sepsis like 10-15 seconds before the third pillar

[echo geyser]

do u guys rupture / garrote / fok in p2 sire btw?

dots on adds i mean

[balmy condor]

yeah just actually not playing around pillars

[sinful cradle]

I usually just keep garrote on sire and remornia

[lost cloak]

Should I vendetta before he hits the pillar or exactly when he does?

[sinful cradle]

Rupture everything

[balmy condor]

doesn't matter as long as the vendetta lasts the whole pillar

[echo geyser]

do u fok on 3targets when theyre stacked ?

[lost cloak]

ok

[balmy condor]

no, fok on 4 to generate

[echo geyser]

can u even hit 4 on sire p2?

if u stand middle of the 2 adds

[balmy condor]

yeah

[sinful cradle]

If they are tanked between small adds yes

[echo geyser]

ah cool

[lost cloak]

What do i hold every other shiv for?

[balmy condor]

the piller?

[hallow salmon]

i guess you need a perfect comp at world 2000 Sadge

[stoic needle]

[hallow salmon]

i bet your comp is the reason you are still stuck on council after 4 months!

[sonic schooner]

Yea rogue don't bring anything but at least we know our class well enough to beat your unholy fk meta slave in every single aspect of the raid

Oopsie, just few words threw without thinking 🙄

[serene wyvern]

hi, from what i understoon in pinned post stats doesnt matter that much on assa rogue, but i assume you need some haste or smth...like if ur full pvp gear with haste vers is it gd enough for assa pve?

[pallid bough]

How is rogue able to beat UHDK in every aspect of the raid?

Look I love playing my rogue but if I had a choice between rogue or dk, I would pick DK

[balmy condor]

player skill matters

[balmy condor]

yep that's fine

[serene wyvern]

thank you very much

[balmy condor]

that's what most people did for mythic sire prog at the start

cause pvp was where the gear was at

[serene wyvern]

sooo i have to grind full haste versa gear

[sacred isle]

who is not giving you a choice? ~~

[serene wyvern]

to go raid again on rogue ❤️

[compact pumice]

You can raid right now with what you have

[dawn ivy]

world first raiding aside, ROGUE brings enough to raid in the top 100 with ease, and even in world first raiding we're about to see AMZ get nerfed (most likely), so a chunk of DK use will be taken away

i wouldnt be surprised if at least one sin rogue is brought to RWF on most fights just for the pure ST ape damage

[pallid bough]

Idk, why handicap yourself by not bringing an AMZ

Talking about current tier ^

[dawn ivy]

sure if you talk about this tier its a no brainer, amz is busted and rogue was dog water

[pallid bough]

Ye

Yeah I am talking about current tier

Since we have no idea what will happen next tier

Encounter design also matter

We have 3 DKs and it made a lot of encounters a joke

Esp Artificer

AMS and Deaths Advanced is also pretty big and people forget that

[carmine dawn]

@balmy condor

[balmy condor]

[carmine dawn]

how do i practice sin ST ? is pugging heroic randos honestly my best move?

when i do keys the rotation just feels too different to help with muscle memory

[balmy condor]

dummy

is my way

[limber lion]

Honestly just by playing a lot. You can smack your head against a target dummy for some time to begin with and then move to raids.

[carmine dawn]

thank you kind sirs

i will get better

[balmy condor]

I believe in you

[civic trellis]

Hey guys

Anything i can improve here as sin? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MgnhjHqVTt6J8NL9#fight=34&type=casts&source=136&translate=true

Xymoz mythic

[balmy condor]

should never cast IQD by itself

[civic trellis]

Uhm did i cast it out of vendetta?

[low girder]

i'm not a boneboi but this feels wrong

[civic trellis]

why?

[low girder]

missing out on a lot of CPs and you've already got the dot up from the opener

[stoic needle]

you don't SBS in the MA window

[civic trellis]

sbs + mutilate its already 5 cp min

[low girder]

that mut wasn't in the window

[civic trellis]

so the next gcd is env with sbs agility buff

[low girder]

it's over 3s

after vanish

[civic trellis]

oh

[stoic needle]

you should sbs before vanish

[civic trellis]

Right

[stoic needle]

you should be using heirmir for ST anyway

[low girder]

you could've just vanished after the shiv

i expect you ran out of energy

[limber lion]

A 5:02 kill

I want that

[civic trellis]

I am a bit lazy to change of soulbind 😄

Okay thanks that helps, I guess rest is fine

[low girder]

i wish i could like, click the wasted CPs to see where they were, but you wasted 3 from bone spike. idk if that's a normal thing or

the rest were fine

[civic trellis]

Yeah i know where i wasted it

Got portal and was about to overcap

[low girder]

ah

[civic trellis]

Yeah exactly

That was really bad tbh

Had to hold vanish for a bit

[low girder]

could've just moved the vanish back

you're running deeper, you don't need to hold for vanish -> envenom

you only get one in the window

[civic trellis]

You mean the first vanish right?

[low girder]

yeah

[proper halo]

should i switch toi necro to level renown 40 just in case?

[limber lion]

Sure?

[civic trellis]

Yeah, looking at the log i could use vanish after shiv

[low girder]

yep

outside of those, looks good

[civic trellis]

But was my third time as sin in a while so 😄

A bit nervious

Okay thanks, i am used to cast sbs to get the agility buff as outlaw

but outlaw doesnt have energy problems

[proper halo]

dammit i just shued the fly away

[civic trellis]

Uhm had to do shiv - sbs - vanish

Thanks guys

I have the feeling sins will be top next patch

[limber lion]

Might be, until it gets nerfed for being too good.

[balmy condor]

How about a 4:30 kill tho

[limber lion]

Don't tease me

[civic trellis]

Wtb no mechanics

[dull cloak]

Why is there no tip in pins for hidden blades

[stoic needle]

Because it's bad

[balmy condor]

Because we don’t ever play it

[compact pumice]

You think Blizz will ever touch that? so that it has a use? Or is it only if the spec is in shambles and have no raid spots that they do stuff like that?

[stoic needle]

We have no rogue developer

Therefore no rogue talent changes

[low girder]

poison bomb is bad enough HB pops up from time to time even if it's almost guaranteed to be worse than CT

rofl we passed the threshold

[cyan prawn]

might be a no-brainer question but anyway: I know that on sub if you play with Deeper Stratagem you rather use a 5cp finisher than overcapping compo points, I assume the same is on assa too?

[low girder]

get fucked PB

yep, max -1

the only instance we ever don't follow that is right in the opener to get SND up

[stoic needle]

And in mythic plus to spread low cp ruptures because things won't live long enough

[low girder]

ye meant in raid, my b

[cyan prawn]

yeah thought as much, my anxiety filled ass needed someone else to confirm that

[stoic needle]

Also I think if youve misplayed and snd is about to fall off it's better to low cp envenom to extend it than to directly cast it or let it fall off but don't quote me on that

[low girder]

i did that on sire a few times

if you fuck up and don't have envenom as your last couple casts in p1 it falls off

[cyan prawn]

just don't fuck up 5head

[stoic needle]

Yeah that's def a feelsbad

[cyan prawn]

had that happen myself a few times too tho

[stoic needle]

Just play perfectly

[low girder]

i did on the kill 😄

i just also got 2 impales

😄

[stoic needle]

Oof

[cyan prawn]

had to doordash to Gloomveil and Shadowstep on a totem on our kill try *after we got gripped by hand

could be worse

[stoic needle]

After sludge I'm expecting to parse grey on slg but I'll be damned if I get less than purple on our sire kill

[low girder]

i would've been close to an 80 which is aight with my trash tier gear

the 300k wipe i was around 7k in p2

[stoic needle]

Any flayedwing gamers?

[low girder]

kill pull? 6.4k

that's when i knew

[stoic needle]

I'm just afraid that we might not reclear

[low girder]

instead i got stuck with a 53

there's always next time

[stoic needle]

I s2g if I have an 8 on sludge forever

[low girder]

oof

[dull cloak]

oof

[civic trellis]

XD

[stoic needle]

The first pillar soak was out of melee range

[civic trellis]

just put it on private

😄

[cyan prawn]

🙂

[stoic needle]

Pretty sure once it's public it stays

[cyan prawn]

i dont get rid of it, it bugs me

[stoic needle]

Pog

[civic trellis]

no it doesnt

[stoic needle]

[low girder]

oh, BUT on that pull i pulled off 6.2k in p3, so. not bad. i thought i could fit in 3 flags but i fucked it, should've held the 2nd one

i did my job

[stoic needle]

I think I'm going to be unethical on our sire prog

Necrolord doomblade

[low girder]

embrace the unethical bugged SBS in p3

[civic trellis]

Or play outlaw 😛

[cyan prawn]

switched to necro after we killed him, honestly bone spike feels pretty good

[low girder]

anything for the kill

[stoic needle]

Absolutely not

[civic trellis]

😄

Outlaw is hella fun in sire

[stoic needle]

That would be inting

[low girder]

i had my fill on SLG

[stoic needle]

The crimson tempest p2 damage

[low girder]

my hands almost fell off

[limber lion]

I was hoping to get rid of my purple parses today

[civic trellis]

But sbs is omegaop in sire

[stoic needle]

[limber lion]

but our Artificer was 30s slower than last time

[stoic needle]

[shy dust]

Purple

[stoic needle]

I'm gonna weirdchamp you every time you complain about purple parses

[low girder]

wait

rae i can get rid of my army of 71s

[civic trellis]

i have to ride of some purples aswell

but will be hard

[low girder]

[shy dust]

It will be easier when the vault rewards you a 233 weapon

[civic trellis]

^

[low girder]

also yes, very true

[civic trellis]

Haha

[shy dust]

Consistency

[stoic needle]

At least you're consistent

[civic trellis]

that's harder than a pink parse

[low girder]

consistently mediocre, that's my motto

my gear just fell behind tbh

[civic trellis]

i feel there is a gap between 96-97 parses and 99-100 in gear terms

with 225 is hard to pull +97 nowadays

literally my last 3 kills

[echo estuary]

: o

[low girder]

i just wanna get back to my 90s, my parses are dogshit

the 95s can wait til i have real weapons

[stoic needle]

I think you can get there with good kill times

[echo estuary]

Just do heroic lul

[civic trellis]

haha

[low girder]

i haven't touched heroic since january lol

[stoic needle]

I keep doing sire for the 213 sf

[limber lion]

Kill timers are everything.

[stoic needle]

I got remornia!

[limber lion]

Gear matters, but kill timers matter more.

[dark crag]

Just ask your guild to pad less and kill the boss faster, whoops you're now on bench

[echo estuary]

Pay off priests for PI

[stoic needle]

We are ethical non-pi gamers in this chat

[civic trellis]

They keep pi'ing locks and mages

lol

[low girder]

i think they understood after the sire kill when they looked at p3

[stoic needle]

Some of us anyway

[echo estuary]

Ooo go for a healing parse instead!

[civic trellis]

my healing parses are literally grey

all of them

[echo estuary]

Just not trying hard enough

Take more damage

[limber lion]

PI is filth.

[stoic needle]

Spam crimson vial, app to guilds with a link to your healing parses

[limber lion]

[stoic needle]

[civic trellis]

xdddddddddd

[low girder]

bring back feint pants

[civic trellis]

that's smart

[low girder]

and remove feint cd

[dark crag]

When too many pad p1 and are under a grey logging assa rogue with 1 vendetta in p3 you know it is good

[low girder]

[civic trellis]

Eh i was top healing in sire mythic

because when you die as necrolord

it gets bugged and heals like 5 mill

instantly

[low girder]

rofl

[stoic needle]

Lmao

[echo estuary]

Imagine out dpsing people on sire at 209 ilvl

[low girder]

as venthyr i was 2nd highest dps on healing

only dps that beat me was spriest

so he doesn't count

[echo estuary]

Our spriest is the RL so his damage is lower lmao

[low girder]

wait that's p3

nvm i got beat by a lot of people

[limber lion]

It's okay buddy.

[low girder]

wait karma counts as healing

man

nice spec btw

[stoic needle]

Recuperator is nice tho

[low girder]

yeah it's real good in p3

you're so rarely topped

[limber lion]

Recup + Leeching Poison

[ebon notch]

Does anyone else feel like shiv gameplay is kinda awkward

[limber lion]

Not really.

[low girder]

only if i'd need it for dispels

[ebon notch]

Trying to shove as many envenoms into that window is so rng

[limber lion]

You don't need to do that

[low girder]

yeah, don't worry about it

[limber lion]

You literally don't care about that

[ebon notch]

And if I don't crit then it feels like shit

[stoic needle]

The number of envenoms you get in shiv doesn't really matter

[ebon notch]

O rly

[limber lion]

Who cares how many envenoms you get?

It doesn't matter

[low girder]

slamming on cd is way more important

[limber lion]

As long as you press it on cooldown

[stoic needle]

That was a bfa thing

[ebon notch]

Ah ok I guess I was pooling too aggressively

[low girder]

you can and should pool

just don't pool past the cd

[ebon notch]

I swear in the wowhead guide it talks about fitting as many high cp envenoms into shiv as possible

[balmy condor]

Worry about things you can control, rather than the things you cannot, that is the wisdom of shiv windows

[balmy condor]

What’s wrong about that

[stoic needle]

It does say that, but it's kinda leftover from the past

[balmy condor]

That seems accurate to me

[stoic needle]

It's importance is overstated at least

[low girder]

"as possible" is the operative phrase

[limber lion]

I mean, that is what you want to do

But it's not like you do dog damage because you didn't get 3 envenoms in every single window

Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't.

[low girder]

i rarely ever get 3

[balmy condor]

If you can only do 1 envenom, or if you do 5

[ebon notch]

@limber lion wait aren't you the ceverion I have on my bnet friends list?

[balmy condor]

It’s still as many as possible

[limber lion]

Yup

[ebon notch]

Ayyyyy

[balmy condor]

Now I’m wondering if there’s another ceverion

Just out in the wild

[low girder]

it's even worse than i thought

he has TWO

JUST TWO

[stoic needle]

[limber lion]

[stoic needle]

Smh my head

[balmy condor]

Hey but he does have more purples than oranges

So

That’s something we have in common

[low girder]

meanwhile i have a 36 avg in 9.0.5

[limber lion]

[low girder]

fuck you slg

you memer

[balmy condor]

Except it’s not

[limber lion]

I don't have a single orange parse on heroic...

[civic trellis]

HAHA

[balmy condor]

Weird flex

[nova flax]

Its ok. I get a 32 parse every time my guild kills mythic sire because i use zoldyck and because of where my vendettas are assigned

[balmy condor]

Your heroic average is what, 99.3?

[nova flax]

Parsing isnt everything :). Doing your job and killing the boss is more important

[limber lion]

[balmy condor]

[civic trellis]

:p

someday i will get a 100

[balmy condor]

In 9.1?

[ebon notch]

9.1 is my push for a rank 1 parse

I always get stuck at the beginning of expansions in terms of gear

[civic trellis]

i guess if you are late in the expansion your 100 are a bit harder

[stoic needle]

you have more shriekwing kills than i have kills of all bosses combined

[limber lion]

Yuuuup

[balmy condor]

Crazy, I would’ve thought your 9.0.5 was lower than that

[echo estuary]

Start smol and go for rank 1 in your ilvl bracket

[limber lion]

no flexing here :)

Maybe you mixed those up?

[balmy condor]

Idk maybe

[limber lion]

[echo estuary]

I take my wins where I can get them

[balmy condor]

I bet cev still reads the pins

What a loser

Parses 100 and still doesn’t know

[limber lion]

bully

[echo estuary]

My heroic council

Lol

[shy dust]

Now that’s clean

[balmy condor]

[shy dust]

That better be Mythic

[echo estuary]

Hruwuic