assassination

[onyx wind]

Ur already in 9.1

[reef axle]

Came up as .2% which is 13 dps, soo with new gear and gems probly non existent 😂

[onyx wind]

Yea or just swap gems/enchants around to make crit/vers sim higher

B)

[manic river]

will assa be the to go spec in 9.0.5?

[brittle pawn]

Reject gear, return to monke

[onyx wind]

For most raid scenarios, yes

as in 9/10 B)

[velvet bridge]

how do u even get 226 lashing?

[manic river]

how about m+?

[onyx wind]

Depends on what u wanna do

+15 keys with ur bros? assa is fine

rank1 key world? prob not

[onyx wind]

Venari

[velvet bridge]

ouf

[manic river]

ok, thanks

[onyx wind]

Or denathrius mythic lol

[brittle pawn]

What's ideal pull size?

[stable arch]

whats the opener with MFD?

[heavy skiff]

Sire also drops it in 9.0.5

[onyx wind]

Yea

Idk i save MFD for shiv and do normal opener

[heavy skiff]

But i dont get M sire :(

[stable arch]

and how do you start when u have SnD and 5CP already? like after a trash pack? do u start with garrote then?

[onyx wind]

I either refresh SnD or use Crimsom tempest

[loud niche]

Where does 213 lashing drop from? H Sire?

[onyx wind]

or if its 2 targets cast rupture

[stable arch]

thx exeo

[onyx wind]

but im a noob so

[stable arch]

i meant rupture not garrote 😄

[limber lion]

Mfd at 28s, snd at 2s
Mut - rup - mut - gar - vend - flag - env

[limber lion]

Yes

[onyx wind]

wdym mfd at 28 sec LOL

what are ur pull timers

[stable arch]

thx @limber lion

[onyx wind]

u sick fuck

[bright timber]

why the second mut before gar?

[limber lion]

I know right, that's one of the reasons why you rarely see MFD because it requires such lonf pull timers

[limber lion]

Assuming you're using the Master Assa talent

[onyx wind]

how many cp do u have at 2s

[limber lion]

4

[stable arch]

i was talking m+ @limber lion

[misty holly]

Full heal also isn't removing the bone spike anymore. It keeps ticking!

[limber lion]

Then might wanna specify that, because you asked what the opener was for mfd and nothing else lol

[stable arch]

yeah sorry.. lol

[limber lion]

There are no openers per se in m+

[upbeat stump]

Hey guys. Thinking of going sin. Any recommendations if I should go 215 zoldycks+doomblade or 235 zoldycks for now?

[misty holly]

This sounds like a challenge.

[onyx wind]

When do we use SnD in AoE

[limber lion]

You would just use SnD before pull to extend your current SnD and then open with 4 garrotes at 0cp

[stable arch]

okidoks

[limber lion]

No point opening with 5cp already, it's such a waste of 4 cp at that point.

[iron orchid]

refresh it on less than 5 targets, it's pretty much useless when there is more

[onyx wind]

Wait u really do 4 garrotes?

I do 3 and then rupture

[limber lion]

On 3 targets after gar gar gar, 4 targets after gar gar gar gar

[onyx wind]

feels like i dont have energy for 4 to make it work

[limber lion]

What talent do you play? Vigor, DS or MFD?

[iron orchid]

use snd between packs after pooling some cps, just to try and refresh alacrity stacks

[onyx wind]

mfd in m+

[misty holly]

4 garrotes in a row is def the best single target opener.

[onyx wind]

XD

[thorny pond]

Garrote is my highest damage ability. Why wouldn't I want to cast it more?

[onyx wind]

the 4th cast isnt empowered and costs 20 more energy than rupture

feels like i have to wait to cast the 4th one

[limber lion]

You maybe, note maybe, wouldn't want to cast 4 garrotes if you have 6 targets so you could instead do gar gar gar fok ct vanish gar gar gar fok rup

To get 6 garrotes up

[solid vapor]

@misty holly wait.... so it never goes away unless combat drops?!!!?

[thorny pond]

Just be a degen and save 5cp when last mob is low

[misty holly]

yes

[thorny pond]

Irrelevant today with cttc

[solid vapor]

You made my day so much better I love you lol

[limber lion]

But you also get to 4 combo points for the rupture which is better than a 3cp one

[solid vapor]

ERBODY in rbg going to have a spike

[onyx wind]

Sure but it feels like waiting isnt worth it

[limber lion]

Why not

[onyx wind]

Since ur wasting a global

[thorny pond]

5 bleeds out

[onyx wind]

And everything we cast gives us more energy in the future

[thorny pond]

More energy

And gar is now on cd

Can cast again sooner

[limber lion]

It does more damage than rup, gives you energy regen and sets your rupture up for 4cp

[misty holly]

Pool for 6 seconds so you can garrote again and then drop a 5cp rupture

:galaxiebrain:

[limber lion]

You want to prioritize having garrote on cooldown 24/7

[limber lion]

[onyx wind]

Idk i get the logic it just feels bad

[limber lion]

You also wouldn't press rupture by the way

You would use CT

[onyx wind]

yea yea i know now

u mean SnD right?

[limber lion]

Gar gar gar gar ct

[thorny pond]

Feelycraft is that way ➡️

[azure swallow]

Anyone switching to Venthyr?

[limber lion]

In m+ you rarely press snd during packs honestly

Just on the very first pack

[fierce bolt]

overall do you guys think assa is gonna do more single target dmg than sub tomorrow?

[thorny pond]

Snd now is going to be easier anyways

[limber lion]

Because you want to save 4-5 cp for the next pack so you can snd before it

[thorny pond]

Unless your tank is a moron

[simple kettle]

Isnt pooling energy dps lost?

[thorny pond]

No

[onyx wind]

Yes, a lot more

Or, as some would say, its minor

Its entirely subjective

[limber lion]

But honestly there's no right or wrong way to doing things. Just get your bleedyboys up and maintain them and you gucci

[simple kettle]

And why guide in wowhead says pooling to 80% energy before envenom?

[limber lion]

🤪

[crisp cove]

What do you mean 'why'?

[misty holly]

the sims seem to think so. I guess we'll see when logs start coming in.

[crisp cove]

"why is the guide telling me how to play the class correctly?"

[thorny pond]

When you press shiv with 0 energy and 0 cp how does that feel?

Maybe now SKS won't be so damn difficult for my guild to rekill

Sin 7k dps can carry

[misty holly]

as long as you dont have any marks hunters =p

[thorny pond]

Have 2 good marks hunters. I'm a degen raid leader and let them ws on pull

Parses > kills

[misty holly]

Marksmanship died so that we may live. honor them.

[thorny pond]

BM and Sin rogues making a comeback

What a world

[crisp cove]

what happened to MM?

[thorny pond]

Survival and Sub never to live laugh or love

[onyx wind]

MM is designed to carry ur guild on SLG

[thorny pond]

They fixed a bug and broke the spec

See: "Windwalker monk"

[onyx wind]

They fixed a bug and buffed the spec

See: "Assassination Rogue"

Either way, bugs should be fixed

Balancing can be done afterwards

[raven burrow]

I can't decide what legendary to craft first.. got enough ashes to craft R4.... Doomblade or zoldyck. :x Zoldyck seems like a better fit if you want to do raid and m+. And it's good for sire. And I'm a casual pleb so I should not think too hard about it. 😄

[tender river]

Doomblade is now ahead on most raid encounters, but you'll probably want Zoldyck for fights where execute is important or numerous; like Denathrius and Huntsman (4x Execute Phases)

[raven burrow]

Well, I want to help my guild kill Sire HC (yes, VERY casual), so Zoldyck might be better.

[untold nest]

Hmm, guys debating with a friend whats ur opinion on which is the best leggo for sludge mythic

[tender river]

Sludgefist, too if you guild is getting to 30% on 4th pillar or close on enrage timer.

Zoldyck if you're tight on the enrage timer/out of pillars for the kill, probably.

[raven burrow]

Close to enrage sounds about right.

[potent gorge]

how's dashing scoundrel doing?

[cunning musk]

Check Pinned

[tender river]

I haven't simmed it, but it seems like you'd want to line up your lust/pillar slam/execute all around the same and in practice that's where I've been able to do a LOT of damage. We lust on 4th pillar while <=30% boss health, blowing all CD's (Vendetta/Trinks with on-use). Zoldyck is really nice in that situation.

[untold nest]

@tender river isnt doomblade better for overall tho on sludge? Just asking havent tried yet/ran the simms

But i guess for prog if we wipe its due to enrage so more safe to go zoldyck

Or Ma even ?

[limber lion]

I would run Doomblade/MA, not Zoldyck

[loud niche]

Cev, where is your gay vampire profile pic?

[gentle gyro]

MA for the pillars

[limber lion]

You should try to get as much damage as possible from the small pillar-windows.

[limber lion]

wut

I haven't changed my profile picture, is that a requirement when joining the Venthyr? 😄

[loud niche]

Wasn't it you who had a pepe with the wine glass? Maybe I'm dreaming

[limber lion]

No, that's @stoic needle

[loud niche]

Aha

[hollow escarp]

[loud niche]

I'm gonna change mine when I get home to it as wll

[limber lion]

Hell yeah, Venthyr gang

[loud niche]

Long live the pepe vamps

[hollow escarp]

we could make a cult

[loud niche]

Lol

You still have sepsis profile pic FeelsGrossMan

[hollow escarp]

tbf, I used it since prepatch

[thorny pond]

Are you gonna be our Mr. Jim Jones?

[hollow escarp]

had to google that

[odd meteor]

Okay i'm ready

[thorny pond]

Drink the Kool aid

[loud niche]

How much better did we just get from the bug fixes on envenom pandemic and doomblade vs armor?

[fierce bolt]

is it worth rerolling to venthyr for tomorrow if I cant grind 30 renown by that time

or whatever renown requires the best soulbind

[mellow pier]

If you’re going to anyways then sure

What prog boss are u doing?

[fierce bolt]

concil

[loud niche]

You can 100% get 30 renown in under 12 hours of game play

Mythic council or heroic?

[fierce bolt]

mythic

[mellow pier]

Council just got giga nerfed. Let your raid leader know this is best for you

[loud niche]

I'd probably discuss with RL

[mellow pier]

It will help for sludge if u want to anyways

[ocean drum]

how? i'm like spamming hc dungeons and got 2 in like 6?

max

[loud niche]

Stop doing heroic dungeons.

[fierce bolt]

I think the raid also gives

[ocean drum]

what else to? did raid, bgs..

[loud niche]

I got minimum one every other +14

[mellow pier]

Full heroic clear, world boss and weekly quests are like 15 alone

[bleak sun]

Do all m0+lfr/nhc/hc you can loot like 20+ renown

[bright girder]

rip i thought hc dungeons guaranteed a renown drop at end

[mellow pier]

Then another 5 from quest line

[thorny pond]

I got 29 just doing the 3 daily boxes campaign and 2 weeklies + some random bosses

[loud niche]

I did full heroic clear, I did lfr clear and normal clear

[ocean drum]

mkay

ye lfr gave me 1

[loud niche]

It took me under 12 hours to do it /shrug

[ocean drum]

👍

[mellow pier]

The harder part is having the dust for doom blade

[thorny pond]

Seems like it slows down near end but you only need what 30 for nadja last row

[spark grail]

Not to get too of topic but what's actually the best way to regrind renown?

I'm swapping venth too

[stoic needle]

Heroic dungeons can give a renown from every boss

[ocean drum]

nadija last row is the 3% ST dmg, no?

[spark grail]

@stoic needle big

[stoic needle]

They're just as good as m+

[loud niche]

Ask your RL if they're comfortable with you making the change now, as it will increase your dps. If they're not then wait till you have time to farm the renown

[lofty shell]

hc runs tank / healers tend to grind for memories tho

so ppl leave after 1st boss like 75% of the time lmao

[bleak sun]

You can got ~2/m0

[thorny pond]

Lots of PUGs will be farming today

Can bank on that for quick groups

[lofty shell]

possible premade hc farming is one of the quicker ways

[wheat parrot]

is venthyr good for all specs now?

[covert mesa]

Bis 4 assa and sub

[balmy condor]

Yes

[wheat parrot]

including outlaw?

[balmy condor]

It’s good for them too yes, you can look at the pins

[stoic needle]

Would they really eat deserter and not finish?

[untold nest]

Outlaw m+ venthyr is a bit behind but nothin too big

[lofty shell]

after 1 boss u don't get deserter i believe

[hollow escarp]

you don't get deserter if you kill 1 boss

[strong dome]

You dont

[lofty shell]

the healer / tank leaving happens constantly if i lvl a new char lol

[stoic needle]

Wtf lol

[hollow escarp]

when I did normal dungeons at 60 on alts, all rogues leave after first boss in ToP

[stoic needle]

Smfh

[lofty shell]

yee idk why blizz made it like that

finish dungeon or deserter FFS

[untold nest]

@wheat parrot for outlaw m+ only thing that matters honestly is what dungeon buff ur team is missing

[hollow escarp]

because you can get kicked and get deserter if you are with a premade

happened to me so many times

even while leveling in shadowlands

[lofty shell]

what, if you get kicked before first boss u get desert ?

[hollow escarp]

yes

[lofty shell]

wtf

[hollow escarp]

I got kicked because I called out an afk dps

but they were all together

[burnt star]

Rofl

[lofty shell]

well there could be another easy fix

just have last boss have all the memory drop chance

[hollow escarp]

people talked about it first weeks of the expac

but what they did is they ruined heroic dungeons as well

because you don't get locked if you queue for a specific HC dungeon now

so you can farm that dungeon over and over

[void gazelle]

Im staying night fae right now, assa single with night fae Niya is viable isnt it?

[balmy condor]

It’s fine yes

Can check pins

[burnt star]

They did. That so u could farm your leggo drop.

But that didnt fix the problem people had of quitting

Tbh leggo/conduit drop should have always been 100% drop rate from m0/heroic. Since its kinda needed. No reason to. And anyways u couldnt craft without the ashes

[void gazelle]

Yea checked them, im just so confused right now.

[whole dew]

venthyr good for m+ - raid and pvp? anyone have guide

?

[full tide]

Do we think there is any viability with Necrolord Exsanguinate build?

[burnt star]

Im confused. Is "the pins" our new best covenant/spec/conduit/and leggo. I see it pop on every comment

[balmy condor]

Yes

[burnt star]

😂

[stoic needle]

The pins increase your dps by over 500

[balmy condor]

Exsang is legit trash, and doesn’t interact with necro

[untold nest]

@balmy condor which leggo for sludge would u recommend? Ma /zold/ doom?

(Mythi )

[tender fjord]

TTB for that r1 parse

[balmy condor]

I’m thinking doom, but ma is probably good too

[full tide]

That infenxoius guy on YouTube spreading fake news or was it something that was patched?

[balmy condor]

Both

[vast lynx]

with new venthyr cov, do u think sin will be better than outlaw in single target?

[full tide]

LMAO

[balmy condor]

Sbs working with exsang is actually game breaking

[inner granite]

if you check the pins you can see the answer to that question

[balmy condor]

Like that shit was never in question

[inner granite]

while the video was dumb, he did clearly mentioned that this was a bug on the ptr and would like be patched out. Helps to listen xD

[balmy condor]

Doubling your dps permanently every 45 seconds, and Melting blizz servers in the process by getting like 0.07 second ticks

[untold nest]

How would i sim sludge pillar dmg increase, is there some advance sim i can do or nah?

[vast lynx]

ty so much sir 👍

[full tide]

I mean, "Potentially being patched" and being patched are two VERY different things. Look at WW xD

but I get what you're saying

[balmy condor]

You can set up vulnerability phases, but the APL doesn’t support raid events so it’s not gonna line up how you want it

[simple kettle]

Do u have to pool energy to 80% even in shiv window?

[balmy condor]

Like I said, it was game breaking, not “potential”

People were actually getting hard DC’d because of the tick rate on sbs

That’s not a haha we do more damage

That’s actually just unplayable

[inner granite]

WW bugs that have persisteded for entire expansions and cross-expansions would never add up to the dps increase that this interaction would have provided lmao. No way blizz ever lets something like that go through to live

[full tide]

Fair

I'm somewhat new and all I know is that every two minutes there are some bugs that make/break classes

I didn't quite realise the scale of the bone spike exsang it seems

[balmy condor]

To put it in context, you would crash halfway through phase 2 on sire

[inner granite]

Also, up until shadowlands WW bugs were actually quite detrimental to the potential top-end dps of the class

[balmy condor]

If the bug went live

Not sometimes

Just every time

[full tide]

What the fuck

xD

Alright alright I feel you

That's hilarious

and very clearly never making it to live

[balmy condor]

And that’s damage aside

Cause let’s just say you get 8 exsang’s off

On sire

Thats 6 minutes, not too bad

You’re not doing 8 * 2 more damage

You’re doing 2^8 more damage with sbs

[spice spire]

That’s 2^8 right? Yeyeyeye.

[inner granite]

@balmy condor Would you recommend vent or necro for someone looking to play both outlaw and sin going forward?

[spice spire]

Exsanguinate is bad talent

[inner granite]

I feel like vent is the play

[balmy condor]

Bone spike just doing 256x the damage

[balmy condor]

Depends on what you do more, if you outlaw m+ more than raid, probably necro

[inner granite]

Only outlaw for M+, but raid perfomance >> M+ performance

[paper bloom]

Then vampire time

[balmy condor]

By the time you get into p3, you’ll have 2048x the damage btw

AT THE START OF p3

[heady rain]

assa gonna compete with outlaw in raid now?

[full tide]

I rerolled to WW purely for progression and with this patch I'm so happy for an excuse to come back

[inner granite]

yes check the pins

[full tide]

That's so insane @balmy condor

[limber lion]

I see nothing wrong here

[untold nest]

Id say necro prob honestly as not a lot of fights are pure ST and outclaw cleave with sbs is just too good?

[balmy condor]

If dot does 100 dps

That’s 200k dps

[stoic needle]

Good

[winter gale]

Will I be able to finish 2nd comeback quest in a day?

[knotty sparrow]

i switched to Venth from NF

😮

lets gooo vampire boys

[winter gale]

I have raid tommorow and I am coming back to Venthyr from NF

[limber lion]

We've been so under-represented for so long, it's our time to get back up there and I think 200k is a good starting point

[tender fjord]

Your math is correct but phasing in Sire Denatrius removes the bone spike

[inner granite]

@balmy condor There were questions about the sbs implementation / working with doomblade being fixed with sbs on the ptr / sim profiles. Have these fixes been updated in the pins?

[tender fjord]

So it wouldn’t hold up in game

[balmy condor]

That’s fine, he would be dead before phase anyway

Just bring 5-6 sin rogues, he phases after a cast

Cast takes 2 seconds

You’re doing like 1 mil dps

Dudes gone

[tender fjord]

Does exsang also speed up bleeds of other players? 😂

[balmy condor]

No

[limber lion]

Still less than what we were doing in Legion

Surely can't be that bad

[balmy condor]

Or like imagine this one right

Slg

The boss is immune during intermission

[winter gale]

To summ it up..from reset we are blasting?

[limber lion]

95% dr

[balmy condor]

You just stack exsang

[limber lion]

You would actually kill it through the 95% dr

[dense hamlet]

just make exang speed up like afflock dots

[stoic needle]

'immune'

[winter gale]

Is build same as current?

[paper bloom]

Well yes, but actually no

[dim temple]

exsang was patch u cant speed it up

[tender fjord]

Outranging opponent with 40yards clears bonespike as well in pve

[balmy condor]

Yes

[stoic needle]

Yes but actually yes

[winter gale]

A bit overtuned ?

[stoic needle]

No

[balmy condor]

Yes we know, we’re discussing how insane it would’ve been

[dim temple]

yea 🙂

[white delta]

hey guys new to assassination, what haste levels should i aim for? like i see DS is bis in ST but vigor still sims higher for me, im at 16% haste which i know is low but i have bad gear

[dense hamlet]

150%

[limber lion]

69%

[tender fjord]

More than you have currently

[limber lion]

There is no breakpoi t

[stoic needle]

♾️

[tender fjord]

To infinity and beyond

[white delta]

hahah okay

xD

[limber lion]

There is no such thing. Maybe there was in TBC but definitely not anymore

[stoic needle]

just keep simming

[tender fjord]

But when you hit 34% expect a dm from infexous

[white delta]

so just get haste on every piece of gear if possible?

[limber lion]

For now, but eventually other stats will be better rhan haste

[tender fjord]

Go to Raidbots and sim yourself

[limber lion]

Just focus on ilvl

[stoic needle]

Raidbots will tell you when you have too much

[balmy condor]

This channel grows up so fast

Brings a tear to my eye

[tender fjord]

Oh wait

[stoic needle]

Yeah we're growing up to real mastery stacking adults now

[dense hamlet]

[tender fjord]

@white delta ask for !bis

[limber lion]

Still waiting for the day when we don't have to mention pins a single time during the day

[stoic needle]

That's never gonna happen

[balmy condor]

Lmao that’s not happening

[strange python]

What are the pin? 🤣

[normal mist]

LOL

[balmy condor]

That’s what I’m saying

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor hey, i always loved sin, and now that its good, what is BIS?

[outer siren]

Check

[balmy condor]

These nuts

[outer siren]

The

[dense hamlet]

[outer siren]

P

I

[royal lantern]

people dont know me here

[faint harness]

@balmy condor hey whispyr i've always hated sin, how do i play this spec so i hate it less? ty for any reply

[royal lantern]

was inactive for too long

[balmy condor]

Like old red whispyr in sub

[outer siren]

Hey @balmy condor I'm a mage and dont have a rogue at all, could you write me a essay on how they backstab?

[pulsar sluice]

are those sims using deeper

[iron orchid]

@balmy condor you are waiting for simc to be up to date so that you don't have to run anything locally to change pins right ?

[outer siren]

@balmy condor

[balmy condor]

Hit n, press sub

[faint harness]

whispyr tag-athon

[limber lion]

It does say that.

[faint harness]

but its dogshit, my rl told me to spec assa

[balmy condor]

Correct

[limber lion]

Get fucked

[outer siren]

Whisp does sims on paper

Free hand

[pulsar sluice]

@balmy condor are we there yet

[outer siren]

No calculator

[limber lion]

Sub the dream is over.

[dense hamlet]

hit logout press create char and make a fire mage

[stoic needle]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[balmy condor]

That legendary comparison in the newest pin took 45 minutes

[stoic needle]

fuck this extended maintenance

[thorny pond]

Think we can finally let our rogues off the bench and see playtime? They're our best players but we need more fotm to beat bosses

[iron orchid]

LEL

[lament dove]

what was the envenom pandemic bug?

[pulsar sluice]

i think they extended it just to gloss over rogue buffs to make sure we aren't overtaking the boomie overlords

[dim shoal]

Imagine the rogues being the best players

[faint harness]

IMAGINE

[balmy condor]

It didn’t, now it does again

[stoic needle]

Not hard to imagine

Ranged players are braindead

[limber lion]

I'll have you know I'm the no 1 rogue in the world

[dim shoal]

Until i spec assa @limber lion

[faint harness]

1/1 named Ceverion

[normal mist]

[slender trail]

number 1 in our hearts maybe

[limber lion]

From EU, Kazzak

[thorny pond]

What is our APM? I guess that matters

[stoic needle]

no it doesn't

[dense hamlet]

10

[limber lion]

Low but doesn't matter

[balmy condor]

It matters to my feel

[faint harness]

it says 27 Ceverion 😡

[balmy condor]

If I push more buttons, I feel like I’m doing more

[limber lion]

:O

[dim shoal]

26 people infront are chinese. Doesnt count

[faint harness]

higher apm leads to more dps

[thorny pond]

APM is proven to be more dps

[void urchin]

Would you go for Doomblade or zoldyck

[thorny pond]

look at havoc

[limber lion]

But some dude said that a few days ago

[faint harness]

APM is scientifically proven to be the leading cause to big dps

[gentle gyro]

going through CN NHC for renown rn, how are you even supposed to use old Flag

[balmy condor]

Aight I know push is trolling

But uh @thorny pond u good bud?

[limber lion]

But what if your classes apm is 45 and you press buttons at 200 apm

Will that increase my deeps

[thorny pond]

Yes just bored today

[balmy condor]

Ok

[faint harness]

Yes thats also good dps

[limber lion]

Ok very good, then my carpal tunnel syndrome is worth it

[faint harness]

It's very worth it

[thorn turtle]

Carpal gang gang

[stoic needle]

you may be rank 29 ceverion

however

get on my level

[faint harness]

🚬

[dim shoal]

Thats pog

[limber lion]

Dank

We blazin'

[thorny pond]

Bet you get lots of women with 420

[stoic needle]

i'm neck deep

[thorny pond]

I'll be your groupie

[balmy condor]

So like 4 foot 7?

[spice spire]

Holy shit dude what a god

[thorn turtle]

1 dung left to get ksm before reset

[spice spire]

Oh my god

[thorn turtle]

I want to get it todaaaaay

[stoic needle]

i can never play heroic again

or i'll ruin my rank

[thorny pond]

What if some chad takes it from you?

[stoic needle]

i will take his life from him

[dense hamlet]

thats why we have Lfr

[thorn turtle]

He’ll have a bowl cut and a plain white tank top

[faint harness]

lucky for you, there's new ranks

for 9.0.5

[thorny pond]

But for real, how long until we just get invited to heroic pugs for being sin?

[balmy condor]

[limber lion]

Don't worry, we get partitions

[stoic needle]

OH FUCK THATS RIGHT

[faint harness]

parsing as sub is gonna be easier than ever

[limber lion]

I asked for them because I'm a bitch who's scared to lose my heroic rank

[stoic needle]

im glad its not peen

[balmy condor]

#1 world

[limber lion]

Apparently Kihra only wants to add partitions if there's something big and doesn't do them for buffs

[balmy condor]

[thorn turtle]

We shanking soon bois

[limber lion]

But I justified it by saying that Assa gets a 700dps buff, ww and hunter lose like 10% of their dps

[faint harness]

thats a big emote

[dense hamlet]

wtf

[balmy condor]

Kihra’s got some questionable opinions

[heavy skiff]

big frog

[thorny pond]

thank god MM is dead

[thorn turtle]

Huge

[faint harness]

Kihra also made like 4 partitions in Nyalotha

[limber lion]

Yeah it was weird idk

I don't see any reason not to add partitions for every patch

[faint harness]

He made a new partition for 1 corruption affix getting nerfed

and now he doesnt want to for a patch?

ok bro

[limber lion]

Lmao

Yep

700 dps

[thorny pond]

lmao

[limber lion]

Is not enough

[faint harness]

biggest kappa ever

"Post-nerf 1"

post nerf 2

[limber lion]

Lmao

[thorny pond]

How will I know if the hunter we recruit is any good or not then if he hasn't gotten any 99 parses this lockout?

[limber lion]

But other than that Kihra's pretty chill

[faint harness]

he does a great job with wclogs

[limber lion]

Cool dude who spends a lot of time on the website for sure

[faint harness]

but i was not a happy boy when he reset logs in nyalotha because they nerfed that corruption thingie

[stoic needle]

holy shit lmao i didnt believe you actually did it

madman

[limber lion]

It just seemed really off that for a patch this size we wouldn't be getting a partition

[spice spire]

The madman is truly sealing the deal in at 420 tho.

[stoic needle]

[spice spire]

Like what an absolüt unit

[limber lion]

Probably others asked him about it as well and made him eventually do it

[mellow pier]

In legion he made new partition for every .05 patch

[polar cape]

Miss echoing void T.T

[whole dew]

Serrated Bone Spike’s (Necrolord) damage is now correctly increased by Assassinations’ Mastery: Potent Assassin.

[faint harness]

thats a hotfix note

[icy crater]

😮

[warm bolt]

Any takers for covenant swaps for 9.0.5?

[limber lion]

Is this like some sort of a wife-swap except for covenants

[stoic needle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/226403529894526987/818606648120573992/venthyr.png?width=414&height=713

venthyr gang

[limber lion]

Pretty sick ngl

[warm bolt]

Sick

[earnest remnant]

actually bis

[stoic needle]

best dps and best looks

why would you choose anything else

[spice spire]

I mean they go hand in hand

[limber lion]

Too bad it's a female

[warm bolt]

Wondering if the increase is worth grinding another 40 renown.

[balmy condor]

We love women

[dim shoal]

Does someone know anything about acquiring valor? Like how much do m+ dungeons give?

[spice spire]

Grinding renown is pretty ez

[stoic needle]

imagine playing a male character in wow

[limber lion]

Definitely more than Burger King does.

[balmy condor]

[gentle gyro]

a man of culture

[limber lion]

I played a female in ArcheAge because holy smokes those clappers

[stoic needle]

male orcs are so goofy i can't play one for more than 10 seconds

[limber lion]

WoW female characters are a bit lacking in that department

[lament dove]

imagine your character's gender playing any role in WoW

[stoic needle]

its all about aesthetics

[gentle gyro]

i actually had some male characters

[balmy condor]

Of the details meter

[faint harness]

imagine if you got increased cooking by picking a female character

[gentle gyro]

but since swapping is free now

they're all female now

[icy crater]

I swap depending on what mog set I feel like wearing

[heavy skiff]

was about to make the same joke but didnt want to write it

[faint harness]

i give low fucks

[balmy condor]

Who’s ready for vault tho

[faint harness]

so i took it for you

[stoic needle]

looking cool is +200 dps

[limber lion]

Sure am. In 15 more hours

[balmy condor]

Osh gets a phial for sure

[limber lion]

Yeah, fuck him

I mean

Yay

[stoic needle]

[balmy condor]

Although phial isn’t a mastery trinket

[stoic needle]

i know better than to get my hopes up

[indigo mulch]

Vault of disappointment.

feelsbadman

[balmy condor]

So probably doesn’t want it anyway

[stoic needle]

i have a 184 bell

[marble bear]

Are there new Sims available for the patch yey

[limber lion]

That's true

[marble bear]

Yet

[gentle gyro]

I'm ready to draw out a 226 dagger or phial tomorrow

[balmy condor]

Only the pins cause I’m special

[limber lion]

📌

[stoic needle]

If i got KSM, aotc, and phial in the same week

wew lad

[balmy condor]

Raidbots hasn’t

[limber lion]

Leave some for us

[simple kettle]

The only time when we have to pool energy is envenom? And the reason to pool energy there is to get 2 mutilates with the envenom buff?

[heavy skiff]

not yet 😦

[indigo mulch]

What about doomblade vs scundrel in 2 boss cleave? 😮

[stoic needle]

on the PTR i had a 226 iqd in the vault

[indigo mulch]

Scoundrel(?) England is hard to use today :c

[limber lion]

I'm still using the SLG trinket and it's so 😴

[stoic needle]

same

all my homies hate stone legion

[oblique kiln]

!bis

[stoic needle]

i have infinitely divisible ooze and SLH

ooze gang is fun though

and it's getting a nice 10% buff

[balmy condor]

More envenom uptime is just better, pooling on envenom also naturally means you pool for shiv as well, so it just ends up doing it all

[plush basin]

ooze is getting a buff?

[limber lion]

I just want a phial. Nothing else.

[golden delta]

!bis

[stoic needle]

all non-stat boosting dps trinkets are getting a buff

[plush basin]

I got a 220 ooze, maybe I can dust it off

[stoic needle]

it's gonna be fun to try to pandemic envenom buff now

[limber lion]

I'm just happy it got fixed and Zoldyck is not as meh anymore

[balmy condor]

good one

[dim temple]

what they done ?

[limber lion]

Nothing

[dim temple]

k

[tight ravine]

vault's gonna be awhile away

[limber lion]

Who needs Zoldy anyways when we've got Doomyboy

[gentle gyro]

i like zoldyck more than doomblade

[devout mirage]

I'm new here, venthyr assassin for 9.0.5?

[gentle gyro]

for ST the sims say yes

how it pans out in reality, we will see

[north basin]

whole day doing quest for ventyr. god help me . such boredom.

[vestal coyote]

So not worth to swap to Necro with Doomblade lego even with it counting towards the increase envenom damage? Venthyr still better ya?

[stoic needle]

i just wanna see my vault man smh

[burnt star]

Is that the venthyr weapon enchant?

[stoic needle]

no it's beastslayer

i accidentally left 10k anima in night fae so i couldn't buy the weapon enchant yet

[lament dove]

btw, how does doomblade sim the same as zoldyck in a dungeon slice? are you mutilating every mob in the pack, or what?

[stoic needle]

because dungeon slice is roughly 50% single target, and doomblade is really good on single target

[limber lion]

Wat

Are you simming that yourself?

[stoic needle]

anything with super high single target damage will sim decently in dungeon slice just because of the nature of the sim

[limber lion]

Because there isn't DB DS sims afaik

Just MA and Zoldy

[lament dove]

no, it's in the pins:)

[balmy condor]

Sure there are

You think I don’t sim that shit?

[stoic needle]

if you sim 8 target cleave or 5 target cleave doomblade falls behind

[balmy condor]

Fucking miss me with that homeboy

[limber lion]

Wut

[balmy condor]

We sim everything

[limber lion]

I see only MA/Zoldy comparisons

I don't see DB

In the pins that is

[dim temple]

any there any other soulbinds there are better in Nadjia as vamp? or are she Bis all the way?

[balmy condor]

#assassination message

[stoic needle]

@limber lion

[limber lion]

Yo wtf why doesn't this shit show up on my phone

[stoic needle]

ah yeah

[burnt star]

Btw oshosi. What is that red glow around your character?

[balmy condor]

Scroll

Down

:)

[stoic needle]

you have to quit out of the discord app and reopen it @limber lion

nah its a discord bug

[stoic needle]

stone legion heraldry trinket

[limber lion]

Ok brb

[burnt star]

Really? The trinket adds a glow.. damn

[stoic needle]

yeah is just a little animation every 2 or 3 minutes

[limber lion]

Woah wtf now I see 2 new pins at the top as well with the new Envenom pandemic thingy

[burnt star]

Ahhh ok its not pernanent

[limber lion]

Ok discord on phone is busted

[balmy condor]

[limber lion]

Would not recommend

[stoic needle]

yeah it is lol

[dense hamlet]

magiK

[limber lion]

Zoldy saw similar increase in dps as other legendaries? I would have thought it would benefit more from the Envenom fix

[balmy condor]

Zold was like 75

[limber lion]

Welp guess I'm clueless

[stoic needle]

the envenom fix narrows the gap between zold and everything else

which is good

tbh we are honestly kinda lucky now, we have multiple legendaries that are good for different scenarios

it was boring having zoldyck be bis for everything

imagine being balance druid where you're basically inting not equipping BOAT

[limber lion]

I'm really glad we have options

Here's to hoping we can equip 2 legendaries in 9.1 🥂

[near lark]

Senpai your words are wisdom

[balmy condor]

:p not what I see, but if it helps people then so be it

[near lark]

Ah my biggest problem

with Assasination is not pooling energy properly

Because of my training in outlaw it's kinda just go go go

[balmy condor]

Tbh I don’t even pool properly either

I just kinda slam and if shiv comes up so be it

[near lark]

Ya but It's affecting my logs, now me being generally bad at the game also doesn't help

[limber lion]

Pooling is fun.

[balmy condor]

Nah that ain’t it

You can not pool a bit and land 99’s easy

[limber lion]

I actually enjoy the slight minmaxing that you can do, compared to 8.3 where pooling was never a gain

[balmy condor]

Yeah

[near lark]

Oh ya, but every little bit of wisdom helps

[balmy condor]

I mean optimally there’s like 0.5% here 1% there

And It all sorta adds up

[limber lion]

Yeh, perfect

[balmy condor]

But there’s nothing really huge

It’s one of the fun things of sin imo

[limber lion]

Agreed

[balmy condor]

Even when I don’t do it out of pure laziness

[boreal whale]

So how is sin going to look in m+.

[near lark]

I just need to get better at sin.

[cunning musk]

Missed your key runs last night

[near lark]

Sin is not outlaw

[balmy condor]

Worse than law

[sharp orchid]

If we want to play sin in raid and outlaw in m+ is fae the play for covenant?

[balmy condor]

Probably necro I would think

[limber lion]

Necro provs

[balmy condor]

Or venthyr

[cunning musk]

Missed your key runs as sin last night..

[boreal whale]

Rip tired of troll the bones

[balmy condor]

Vod should be up, with a shit ton of muted audio probably

[limber lion]

It's really not that bad anymore

[cunning musk]

sweet

[balmy condor]

I’ll stream raid today and probably more keys this week

[limber lion]

Outlaw is much more enjoyable now than in BFA

[boreal whale]

tru

[limber lion]

AOE cap is dogshit

[boreal whale]

not wasting CP on rolls

[stoic needle]

this new MA/KS stuff has me interested ngl

[lament dove]

how does the bleed on doomblade work anyway? stacks or just overwrites the prev one?

[stoic needle]

i like that outlaw and sin can use the same gear

[normal mist]

Tried it, loved it

[balmy condor]

Like ignite

[iron orchid]

KEYS THIS WEEK

[lament dove]

like I know any other class:P

[spice spire]

Keys this week are EASY DEÏ

[stoic needle]

!affix

[prisma monolith]

Affixes: Fortified, Bursting, Volcanic, Prideful

[limber lion]

Progressing on SLG with it is pretty fun. If I proc CTO on pull on both vanishes, I'll have like 3-5 buffs up on pull. Sick

But

[spice spire]

it’s bolstering and storming with tyrannical @stoic needle

[stoic needle]

what are this week's affixes gonna be

[iron orchid]

SUCH FUN

[balmy condor]

I only need 15 HoA for KSM, and we had 2 of them yesterday, my group fucking ran them both down to a 14 just to fuck with me

[stoic needle]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[limber lion]

Whenever we get to Sire, I'm never swapping to Outlaw again

[spice spire]

All melee team has got this in the bag

Smile

[limber lion]

Storming is actually such a free affix tbh

[stoic needle]

please god give me a phial so i can do 1 key this week and be done with it

[iron orchid]

It's just annoying

[limber lion]

It doesn't do any damage and is there to just annoy you

Yeah

[split veldt]

imagine still needing KSM

[stoic needle]

storming on 2nd boss of spires

[spice spire]

Our normal team in guild is a prot pally, two UHDKs and an hpal with me

[balmy condor]

Yeh I don’t play in a giga guild or anything :P

[spice spire]

So storming will be very fun this week

[stoic needle]

imagine having a guild

[balmy condor]

I’m what the kids would call “casual”

[split veldt]

im just messin with you

im not in a giga guild either tho, we just got to council finally

[icy crater]

when it comes to poe ur def not wrong

[iron orchid]

For me it's going to be 15 Mists/HoA/Spires all week till i get enough valor to have 220 daggers, 220 neck, 220 gloves

[icy crater]

[signal gulch]

having a guild

[balmy condor]

the flame

[limber lion]

How dare you play other games as well

[spice spire]

Disgusting (still on heroic sire btw xd)

[split veldt]

though with these council nerfs we should get it down this week

[balmy condor]

@icy crater im close to diamond 3 in 1v1 rocket league tho

[main mauve]

Rupture or snd first

[limber lion]

You're a WoW theorycrafter, you should only play WoW

[balmy condor]

Snd

[limber lion]

Less PoE and RL, more WoW

[spice spire]

220 daggers, you’ll be untouched

[manic harness]

how DARE you cheat on World of Warcraft

[split veldt]

they dont exist bruh

[balmy condor]

Also don’t do school, don’t have friends, don’t play league, and run more sims

[icy crater]

Does opener change with MA? Mystler doesn't really elaborate on wowhead

[manic harness]

right

[balmy condor]

Nop

[limber lion]

Yeah, you're a streamer as well so you're probably rolling in dough anyways. Might as well quit everything else

[iron orchid]

I can't fucking wait till tomorrow

[limber lion]

Same dude

[iron orchid]

I have a fucking chinese lesson 2 hours after reset

[balmy condor]

Actually around 50 a month

[split veldt]

only useful valor gear for me is a 220 phial, it's still better than my 226 anima charged winds thingy

[iron orchid]

I'll barely be able to open the vault and run a few sims

[limber lion]

What's "I don't have time for this shit, I gotta play WoW" in Chinese?

[icy crater]

make your sub badge the exang icon with the mad face

[spice spire]

50k? Damn that’s successful

[iron orchid]

Idk man

[limber lion]

[balmy condor]

[spice spire]

[iron orchid]

Wish I could just say that x)

[limber lion]

Big bucks

[split veldt]

i got 220 gear from pvp like 2 months ago let us upgrade valor to 226 blizz bastards

[balmy condor]

It pays for raidbots sub

And wow sub

:)

[spice spire]

That’s a W at least.

[limber lion]

Actually huge

[icy crater]

2 wow subs actually

[limber lion]

I don't even have epic raidbots sub :'(

[icy crater]

so you can play classic and retail at the same time

[limber lion]

I'm a pleb rare subscriber

[spice spire]

Sorry I don’t speak peasant

[main mauve]

I held the rank one parse for hungering on normal. Who wants to touch me...

[balmy condor]

Peen

[spice spire]

@limber lion

[limber lion]

Be careful, you might summon him

[split veldt]

make blzzard give me a 226 phial and ill give you my twitch prime for eternity

[spice spire]

The boi Deï is also number two in normal

[split veldt]

[balmy condor]

@wild lantern

[spice spire]

One star andy

[split veldt]

[spice spire]

This is a pretty easy week though, jokes aside.

[balmy condor]

[spice spire]

King

[balmy condor]

also what the fuck is this

[manic harness]

:(

[north basin]

guys any short written renown farm guide? all i could find is some abominable voiced utubers talking how to farm it for 20 min. i want some quick written guide

[worn path]

That’s sin rogue in m+ lol

[manic harness]

I'm literally about to overtake you Whispyr, I'm sorry

[balmy condor]

spam dungeons

[stoic needle]

halls is so free just do it

[spice spire]

Spam heroics.
M0s, lfr and all versions of raid also drop

Also callings and PvP

[balmy condor]

they're gatekeeping me because they want to get KSM with me

[limber lion]

Yeah, you're Venth so should get an insta invite

[pulsar sluice]

go do lfr-heroic raids, then do campaign, then do some m0. It's all random, but i got 30 renown in 2 days

[split veldt]

halls is BiS for getting 10 done a week

[balmy condor]

like actually ran down 2 HoA keys just to block my KSM

[stoic needle]

[spice spire]

Pug it despite them

[limber lion]

Cunts

:')

[spice spire]

Sorry to spite them*

[split veldt]

yeah i pugged my last KSM key because i was too impatient lmao

[north basin]

mythic key level play a role here? or i can do just low key m+

[balmy condor]

they're like "we either all get it, or we're never running a key together"

[balmy condor]

it does later on, but the first 20ish should be almost instant

[north basin]

kk

[spice spire]

Toxic

[wild lantern]

I regret nothing and you're not allowed to get it yet :)

[balmy condor]

soooooooon.......

[stoic needle]

what class is that

[balmy condor]

that's jez on her gdruid

[stoic needle]

lmao

[balmy condor]

rerolled like 1.5 weeks ago

[wild lantern]

Yepbad

[balmy condor]

literally all of those keys were this week, except the plague

[celest rover]

Good thing is, the last 3 they need are cake at 15

[wild lantern]

You haven't seen how our group can be eden

[balmy condor]

bad thing is, we reroll halls keys until we get them

[wild lantern]

It's a solid group but we go full monke

[north basin]

btw pvp skirmish eligible renown drop?

[celest rover]

Naw

[spice spire]

I feel that in my soul

Sometimes you just gotta go monke

[lean leaf]

Guys new to assasination a general question: what am i suppose to aim for stats in m?

[spice spire]

It’s in the pins, but haste > crit = vers > mastery is general rule

[wild lantern]

You should ask @balmy condor about the pull i did that we shouldn't have lived through

[spice spire]

But it differs through out

[lean leaf]

Ty makeitquake

[vocal sierra]

Its crit vers i believe in m+

[lilac sparrow]

Anyone tried new Venthyr sin for dummy?

[lean leaf]

Ill check the pins ofc

[spice spire]

Hey whispyr, tell me about the time your bear went full monke

[balmy condor]

she pulled pink and light blue together on a 14, and we missed the stun on the enrage

[spice spire]

Haste is still high prio in m+

[balmy condor]

and face tanked the whole thing

[strange python]

Hello guys any hard cap on Mastery or we aim to the minimum (i.e. 0)

[spice spire]

Huh

[celest rover]

I'm partial to necro over venth since I'm using doomblade /shrug

[balmy condor]

just sim

[spice spire]

That’s definitely.
A pull

[balmy condor]

yeh

no wipe tho

[stoic needle]

100%

get as much mastery as you can

[balmy condor]

had like 9 stacks of the bleed

was super monkaS

[wild lantern]

Kyrian vial go brrrrrrr

[spice spire]

Double hunter

[balmy condor]

well

double hunter

and 4 dogs

actually worse than than the pack after second boss

[spice spire]

Good luck when he casts loyal beasts

[balmy condor]

and there's duelists and stuff

[sour gorge]

how do you get this back ? insane man

[wild lantern]

Loyal beasts may have gone off, yes

[spice spire]

Oh yeah. Just hunters and dogs is bad enough, now you have two randos too

[strange python]

But stats priority has it on the bottom

[lilac sparrow]

what is shrug?

[limber lion]

So you're saying that Jez is just inting your keys on purpose

[stoic needle]

i'm sorry, I was just joking. Ignore that.

[lone crescent]

[balmy condor]

we didn't die tho

[stoic needle]

it's our 'worst' stat but it's still a dps increase

[spice spire]

this is a shrug

They’re trying to int the keys tho

[lilac sparrow]

cute

[spice spire]

I respect it

[balmy condor]

oh we also pulled all of pink and yellow as well

[wild lantern]

Listen, I had CDs, he just got worried

[lilac sparrow]

wow herodamage updated 🙂

supercool

[hollow stratus]

@sour gorge Through renown with anima + offerings or killing the rare in Revendreth "Forgemaster Madalav" drops the cosmetic.

[spice spire]

You’re tank is actually trying to hard int these runs

Looks like another reroll is inc

[wild lantern]

We were fiiiiiiine

[pliant sorrel]

How is it bros

We nerfed yet

[sour gorge]

ok i see

[balmy condor]

bored and trying MDI strats

[stoic needle]

servers aren't up yet

[pliant sorrel]

Oh

[spice spire]

First week on toon, pulling balls to the wall

[pliant sorrel]

I won’t be home until 5pm

[balmy condor]

190 legendary, 208 equipped btw

or is it 210 legendary?

[spice spire]

Servers won’t be up until like 1 PM PST. Per notice

[wild lantern]

210 leggo

[spice spire]

208 tank

[wild lantern]

But TO BE FAIR I used to main bear so I'm not completely new, it's just been years since I've done it seriously lol

[stoic needle]

they usually come up before their estimates

[heavy skiff]

they always take less time then they say

[balmy condor]

oh and she didn't have kyrian vial bound before today

[spice spire]

I respect the gumption though. You can tone down enthusiasm, you can’t fix a tank being timid

No bind on phial is actually a throw

[wild lantern]

Why you gotta call me out

[spice spire]

Holy moly how do you run with this group

[wild lantern]

I told you, M O N K E

[balmy condor]

something something friends something something

[ashen anchor]

Parses green
"I just can't be friends with you anymore" - literally me

[balmy condor]

our healer is actually the one gatekeeping

[spice spire]

Wait that’s even WORSE.

[balmy condor]

for the latter half of the night, jez was like "yo we pull everything"

and the healer's like how bout we fucking don't

[wild lantern]

See what he's not telling you is that he's the one that wanted these pulls in the first place

And I just ended up having to talk the healer into it

[balmy condor]

well yes, MDI pulls are sick

and a scared tank is not

[spice spire]

MDI strats when you have an assassination rogue

[limber lion]

So after all this time, Whispyr was actually the villain in this anime

[balmy condor]

so now that you're on the band wagon

[spice spire]

Always has been

[balmy condor]

we convince the healer

ez

[wild lantern]

I can virtually guarantee that is always the case

[balmy condor]

our group is gdruid, rsham, fire, mm, sin

like

cmon

we gotta

[spice spire]

You think anime protagonists have to sim this much?

Oh

Like it’s super meta outside of you

[dire spoke]

guys

I'm back

[spice spire]

When are you rerolling to windwalker?

[balmy condor]

never

[limber lion]

Hello back

[balmy condor]

I also beat both the mm and the fire mage in literally every key

[spice spire]

That’s a tilter

[wild lantern]

He's right, he does

[balmy condor]

@sage coyote

[limber lion]

Well duh assa is op

[echo hound]

So is sin looking to be strong in 9.0.5? Seems to sim much better atleast

[balmy condor]

yes

[limber lion]

Imagine playing non-meta specs like mm and fire

[spice spire]

I can’t beat one of the death knights and our frost mage also Our tank is also an absolute pumper when he’s ret but. Yeah other than that I’m pretty fine

[split veldt]

blizzard bated me with a notification sayings the game was playable

[echo hound]

@balmy condor Thanks. What covenant currently? Cant find anything in icy-veins etc. still says night fae, which i assume is nonsense

[daring pecan]

how do you not fucking mass-pull with a gdruid?

those fuckers are immortal

[wild lantern]

INCARN GO BRRRRRRRR

[balmy condor]

everything is fine except kyrian. Fae is still the recommended overall

[frozen jasper]

aight boys im making the switch now, bye NF

[stoic needle]

[split veldt]

[daring pecan]

some of the fastest runs I've had were with gdruids just pulling 3 packs and not dropping below 50%

[stoic needle]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[echo hound]

@balmy condor Goes for both Outlaw and sin? Assuming Outlaw will still be best for big aoe

[balmy condor]

yes

[echo hound]

Thanks man

[limber lion]

Np

[split veldt]

[frozen jasper]

could you go a little further why ? sims in the pins all have venthyr higher than nf now im questioning the switch

[dense bramble]

what leggo pair better with serrated bone spike?

[limber lion]

15 more hours until reset :'(