assassination

[warm parcel]

They expire

[fluid ibex]

yeah but why in between out of nowhere

but they dont here?

[zealous moth]

Oh its 5 bosses

Jesus

[gilded oasis]

sometimes I Ct cause im like "man I just have TOO much energy"

[zealous moth]

I thought we got a secret 100% dmg increase for a second

[fluid ibex]

its doing it right before applying new garrote, why?

isnt it supposed to be after that?

[zealous moth]

Depends

[warm parcel]

Rupture might have expired

[normal mist]

you should not look at the sim for a rotation

[zealous moth]

So lets say you have 10 adds and just 1 with bleeds

If you CT > garrote > ct you get 5

[fluid ibex]

its doing it here right before aplliyng rupture too

[coral ibex]

sim are not a rotation guide

bro

[zealous moth]

But youre gonna keep the cts rolling

[coral ibex]

can you read

the sign

that says

[zealous moth]

Also that

[coral ibex]

sims are not a rotation guide\

literally right above that

[zealous moth]

But cting before reapplying bleedss is not really harmfull

Unless youre cting a 1 second rupture

[fluid ibex]

it helps me figuring out a bit when to use what but I dont get the fan/ct situation at all xD

[normal mist]

it does not

[fluid ibex]

it seems very random

[coral ibex]

it doesn't tho

stop looking at the sim

[fluid ibex]

so just use it when I feel like it?

[coral ibex]

[zealous moth]

No, when you need to apply bleeds

[coral ibex]

sim are not a guide on your rotation

[fluid ibex]

so everytime I refreshed bleeds then

[coral ibex]

sims are for comparing talents and gear for a single character on a single spec

they can't do anything else

[fluid ibex]

so I dont worry about this spell at all only when I re apply dots

[gilded oasis]

sorry can't read

[spice spire]

Me nether

Neither even

[rugged basalt]

Wouldn't a log be more useful of a resource than a sim...and EVEN then it's not an objective thing

guys how much haste breakpoint? am i bugged

[gilded oasis]

did you just refresh or put on Rupture or Garrote? If yes, CT to spread until fully spread like mayo. If no, FOK around and find out

[zealous moth]

Biggest difference is energy efficiency + fok actually applies poisons

[rugged basalt]

Hell. I stare at vods

[zealous moth]

And can trigger seal fate

So its a better combo builder than ct

[gilded oasis]

74.94% haste

[fluid ibex]

is tehre a way to track if its spread or do I just watch the nameplates have the dot?

I track it on my target

[gilded oasis]

scent stacks or just look at nameplates

[fluid ibex]

but what about the rest

[zealous moth]

So basically ct if you ignore the bleed spread is just a worse fok

[zealous moth]

If you use CDM you can track scent of blood stacks

[fluid ibex]

so if I dont have 10 stacks I through in a random ct ?

[zealous moth]

On your buffs

Yeah pretty much

[fluid ibex]

ok now its starting to make more sense

[gilded oasis]

assuming there are enough mobs to get you to 20 stacks yes

[zealous moth]

But you're not just doing it for stacks

[fluid ibex]

so I watch stacks if they drop I CT and I CT when I applied fresh dots

is that it?

[rugged basalt]

I can only think of AA pull1

[gilded oasis]

otherwise just look at nameplates and see if there are a TON missing then CT if most have bleeds, fok

[zealous moth]

Bleeds are one of our highest damage sources on aoe

And garrote makes fok hit harder

[fluid ibex]

sure sure

[zealous moth]

Assuing you have set

[fluid ibex]

I have ye

[warm parcel]

If you want to look at what robot is doing, you can open the report and find the line in the sample.

In this case these casts are calling to apl line J:

"Generator List Crimson Tempest to spread bleeds to everything in aoe"

[fluid ibex]

I pretty much have all the items for this specc, just need to move stats around

[zealous moth]

Also it gives you energy regen, the more enemies have bleeds, the more you regen from venomous wounds and dashing scoundrel

[gilded oasis]

@spice spire hope you are having a good Wednesday and if you aren't you better make it good or ima get you

[fluid ibex]

thanks I might try it then

[zealous moth]

So you also want a high bleed count for energy

[spice spire]

I will not. See you soon ig

[fluid ibex]

does sin have a haste breakpoint?

[rugged basalt]

no

[fluid ibex]

so I just wanna stack crit and haste

[gilded oasis]

I think m+ is more crit mast?

I just sim myself idk

[fluid ibex]

ok so its just like sub then

then I might not even have to change anything

[gilded oasis]

well I THINK its that. haste is more for raid? But I could just be bad and wrong and channeling the loa of misinformation

just vibe it out

[spice spire]

Well no.
You don’t just stack two stats and call it a day - ignoring the other two. The sims, while not ideal on showing your rotation (unless you’re a sick fuck that wants to break down the apl) is great for gearing decisions.

Robot is far smarter than I because people far smarter than I teach the robot

[rugged basalt]

copy what he's got equipped

[gilded oasis]

whispyr aint that smart

[spice spire]

About rogue stuff? Very smart.
About many other things? He has his moments

[spice spire]

Rogue, d4, bowling, and maple story id never challenge that man

[gilded oasis]

I know but I gotta knock him down sometimes

[spice spire]

I’d never knock a homie down

Only pick them up

[rugged basalt]

Knock them

Oh

[lime edge]

My Sims have me here for dungeonslice

With a puzzle box

[gilded oasis]

thats the difference between you and I, I enjoy doing both. Knock em down, send em cookies, build them up

test their new game, get hacked

you know

[rugged basalt]

Is that powerpoint

What's that from

[ancient ingot]

guys should i follow sim if he sim berserker on my weapon?

[lime edge]

Murlok

[rugged basalt]

Is this 10 target all buffs on wtf

[lime edge]

https://murlok.io/character/us/stormrage/gáuss/pve

[ancient ingot]

i sim everything

same for st, same for dungeon slice

[rugged basalt]

Ya but why that

[gilded oasis]

mans likes to sim

[rugged basalt]

Simming for the love of the game

[ancient ingot]

tbh idk how we sim correctly

[rugged basalt]

I just do raid st, raid cleave and dslice

[lime edge]

Id be very surprised if berserk simmed best

For dslice

[spice spire]

Girl you couldn’t knock me down if you tried. You’re curling weight to me bozo

[lime edge]

It was the worst for me by quite a bit

[ancient ingot]

best for dslice

[gilded oasis]

I'm skinny? thanks king

[ancient ingot]

sooo i shouldnt take bers?

[spice spire]

Ofc you are queen. It’s not the fact that I am a mammoth

[ancient ingot]

any reason using 2 myth weapon instead craft? i sim and its 0.3% diff

[runic hinge]

I’m going to say some thing about your tusks

[rugged basalt]

@lime edge How do you update a char on there

My shit's a month old lmao

[ancient ingot]

how i should correct sim dslice ? which buffs

[lime edge]

Connect ur blizzard account to it

And hit sync

[rugged basalt]

just bl

[spice spire]

?

[lime edge]

It takes a bit to update tho

Like hours

[rugged basalt]

its probably an every 8 hour sync (for gear/stats)

[runic hinge]

Nice tusks

[spice spire]

Ty

[runic hinge]

[half igloo]

can I evasion immune the bird drop on mythic? 🤔

[strange onyx]

ye

[ocean rover]

does anyone have a picture for the cone on caustic splatter

[lime edge]

Cone?

[magic fossil]

best way to sin paladins? patchwerk 2 targets?

[ocean rover]

im learning rouge so im trying to figure out how i should be using it in mythic +

[shadow agate]

Tried outlaw and my old man brain can't handle the APM... bonus rolled this though... but it's still simming lower than my 263 puzzle box. I hatge puzzle box so much I may just try running it anyway.

[rugged basalt]

puzzle box is irreplacable 🤠 anything you sim will end up being for trinket2 slot

[shadow agate]

I just hate it sooooo much lol

[rugged basalt]

i feel you

[shadow agate]

that cast feels like an hour

[rugged basalt]

it feels awkward to use but im just glad its not like the trinket from tww

where u had to jump 3 times or chase an orb

[little tulip]

treat puzzle box like deathmark

put it on a keybind that's out of the way but not annoying to reach

[gilded oasis]

my DM is precious, its keybind its front and center

[rugged basalt]

i have it on mouse4

sorry, mouse5

[gilded oasis]

thats feint

[rugged basalt]

mouse4 is feint

[little tulip]

yeah it's not useless button

[gilded oasis]

thats cloak!

[little tulip]

its just a shitty button to press

so put it somewhere that makes it less shitty

marie condo style and all that

[gilded oasis]

DM is mouse1

[little tulip]

shadowstep + m1/m2

walk through the swirlie

hit hit hit

https://tenor.com/view/bouncy-fat-cat-round-jiggly-gif-14168398

[ancient ingot]

can someone explain? why i cant sim craft item

[ancient ingot]

oh ty its something new ?

[calm oar]

Seems like it

[quiet star]

so how bad is idea to take one ring from pos and craft another one? belt/cloak/neck/bracers already from pos with pretty nice stats

[pure field]

can we macro battle pot to DM, is there some interaction that might mess it up?

[golden loom]

fine to do ye

[pure field]

thanks

[cyan kestrel]

Does anyone know if blackjack works on the orb ads for the dragons fight?

[spare kayak]

sometimes it procs

[subtle tundra]

mwah

[uncut ermine]

when do you puzzle box

before DM?

[worn geyser]

after envenom , before dm

[runic hinge]

since when do you play the game

[gloomy spindle]

Hello guys, I just got this. would you recommend getting the ring if i can get the set ? i know it is not crit haste and that is why i am hesitating

[subtle tundra]

i started 2 weeks ago

if you dont have myth achiv youre slacking

[runic hinge]

That's true

[sweet shore]

Ah the true answer is and will forever be sim it

[real pike]

ffs me and our pally tank tried to head down on the sacrifice soak on chimmy

for giga pad

couldn't find the fear mob and died

[pallid cape]

does that damage breakdown look ok or am i a bit low on something ?

[ocean rover]

not too different from what i just did in a key

[pallid cape]

hmm not to bad

[iron thorn]

and i got a gaze

[pallid cape]

what ilvl are you?

[ocean rover]

269 with shit trinkets but i have 4 set

[pallid cape]

also 269

[humble verge]

playing L'ura

[sacred oyster]

if you dont have myth chest id take the chest

[royal lantern]

2 PoS runs

bonus roll neck into bonuss roll ring

[slim pebble]

Grats king

[royal lantern]

ofc the very first vault on thhis shity alt

has a mythic puzzle box

[rustic cosmos]

Do we really need crit+haste for m+? Instead of crit mastery?

In aoe we have energy, only for bosses haste helps imo

[iron carbon]

Haste isn't there for energy

[buoyant herald]

Nah haste is strong in aoe too outside of energy

But mastery is also “better” in aoe than ST

As a general rule

But you don’t gear to chase specific stat thresholds, you sim and equip the best piece you have available

Or you droptimizer and chase biggest gear upgrade

[rustic cosmos]

Chasing puzzle box, next id guaranteed bonus roll. Unlucky as Always

[buoyant herald]

What’s another week

[rustic cosmos]

May

[slim pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/justin-timberlake-ramen-hair-n-sync-ramen-hair-gif-11786471

[thorn thorn]

Is low quality also part of the experience

@haughty flicker I am going to try the sour dirt cake from the nearby italian place

I will report back with the results

[rustic cosmos]

Do they have pineapple pizza there?

[thorn thorn]

Im not trying to die

[haughty flicker]

[sacred oyster]

yeah ive burnt 4 on AA now no dice

[rustic cosmos]

I hav still champion box after like 50runs

[waxen oyster]

isn't the AA lootpool like 5 items

[frosty cedar]

theres only 5 items you can loot

LOL

[waxen oyster]

[frosty cedar]

I got it on my 4th

thank god

[rustic cosmos]

Ya but 2 extra u could got from blizz

[frosty cedar]

not me

[rustic cosmos]

When it was bugged

[waxen oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/frankly-thats-a-skill-issue-hazzikostas-ion-ion-hazzikostas-skill-issue-gif-21595688

[frosty cedar]

I was at work at my j*b when it was bugged

also EU time so it was later

[rustic cosmos]

I will get it as 5th roll so..

Fuck u vlizz

[frosty cedar]

blizz is simply out to get you personally

[rustic cosmos]

They alrdy got me

Unlucky with gear

Unlucky with midnight mounts from rares

Like 4k total tries, still 5/8mounts

[frosty cedar]

oh no not the mounts

[rustic cosmos]

Should i be nice on blizz or hating them to get more luck?

[humble verge]

yes, low quality wipes

[onyx veldt]

NAH BUT

trade me

[iron thorn]

bonusroll matey

[autumn idol]

man

the p1 wipe factory

[quiet star]

thinking about avoidance vs leech in m+

[autumn idol]

avoidance

[quiet star]

I usually take avoidance

but a lot of top players take leech

maybe because we already have build in 40% on faint

[balmy condor]

it doesn't really matter, but feint is basically 40% avoidance at a keypress

so

can reduce even more

[autumn idol]

ye

[balmy condor]

or leech it off

it's whatever

[autumn idol]

but we also have 7.2% baseline leech

[quiet star]

and leech is 7 without keypress

[balmy condor]

yeh but that doesn't DR with leech as a stat

[quiet star]

op assasins

[balmy condor]

avoidance on top of feint is technically just less effective

[quiet star]

oh

so it's not just 40+5?

or what do you mean?

[balmy condor]

well that's not how math works

if you take 100 damage

and feint reduces 40

you're left with 60

so then your avoidance applies to the 60

so instead of 10% avoidance reducing 10 damage, you technically only reduced 6

[quiet star]

oh so it step by step calculation

[balmy condor]

yes, everything in wow is a multiplier generally

[quiet star]

it useless I guess

[balmy condor]

if you stack multiple defensives/pain suppression/etc

it's damage in x def1 x def2 x def3

[quiet star]

but who decide order?

[balmy condor]

doesn't matter

you can multiply in any order

[crude helm]

It’s the same result no matter the order

Pemdas type beat

[balmy condor]

yuh

[sonic zinc]

whispyr

[crude helm]

She pemdas on my leech til I feint

[balmy condor]

100 x 10 x 3 x 2.5 x 8 is the same in any order

[sonic zinc]

im slowly being tempted to play OSMS, help

[quiet star]

and how leech works in that case?

[balmy condor]

you should and then let me know how sluggish it is

[sonic zinc]

gdi

[crude helm]

Leech is just self healing which in a sense can be viewed as DR

[balmy condor]

well lets maybe do the example with crit right

if I give you canny strikes, and it gives 2% crit

and then you have 800 crit on your gear

the crit on your gear is a %, and you get +2% on top from canny

those are flat amounts

leeching poison is 7% leech, just flat

but it's not 7% from stats, so it doesn't DR like regular tertiary would

tertiary DR is insano strong

but because 7% is just 7%

the enchants you're adding don't change that

[quiet star]

thank you

[balmy condor]

[quiet star]

the critical question will be how crit amp works

[balmy condor]

crits do baseline +100%

crit damage increases are technically multiplicative I think

but there's so few of them that it doesn't really matter most of the time

[spice surge]

laughs in #subtlety

[balmy condor]

it's a bit of a weird one

cause like yeh

sub has one

trickster I think is additive right

like the +150% cloud cover

is 250%?

[quiet star]

mostly interested how two rings + haranir race ability works together

[spice surge]

The rings and haranir are just straight up 2%/1% on the final one

[balmy condor]

yeh

[spice surge]

So instead of your crits doing 100 damage, they now do 102

But all the talent ones, like the sub ones and lethality are not that

[quiet star]

isn't ring have been buffed?

to 2% each?

[spice surge]

Yes

[quiet star]

so in summary 2 rings 2+2 and haranir +1 in total 5?

[spice surge]

The trickster one is even weirder, because its technically crit damage taken by the mob, not crit damage increased by the rogue

[quiet star]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-delonge-blink182-wtf-meme-what-the-heck-first-date-gif-25383351

[spice surge]

No, theyre slightly more than 5%

As its x1.02 and x1.01 respectively

[quiet star]

got it

[spice surge]

But i mean sub has the trickster one, lethality, planned execution, finality and the deathstalker one

[balmy condor]

yeh

they've been adding more

but crit dam multipliers are... janky

they're sorta the new version of ele dam multipliers

[spice surge]

Most of my pieces are Crit/haste now, whereas in tww all of my pieces were mastery/vers

[balmy condor]

"increases nature damage" and it works on cosmic because cosmic is a quad-element

[royal lantern]

what is cosmic all again

shadow/arcane/nature/light?

[spice surge]

Not literally all, but 4 of them

[balmy condor]

cosmic is uhhhh

arcane, fire

frost nature

shadow

holy

and phys

[royal lantern]

what is even missing lol

[balmy condor]

I think it's all of them

cause the base of everyhthing is phys, arcane, fire, frost, holy, nature, shadow

and there's a bunch of multi elements

I guess you could argue for sonic damage

which is just phys that ignores armor

[royal lantern]

isnt sonic just phys that ignore armor

ye

[balmy condor]

which isn't a bleed

[royal lantern]

like bleed

[balmy condor]

which is also phys that ignores armor

[royal lantern]

[balmy condor]

but is a dot

the fun thing is the spell-lockouts from kicks

because if you kick like idk

frostbolt

they can still cast fireball right

cause it's different schools

but for multi elements, you have to kick all the elements to block it

but if you kick a multi-element, it blocks all those

so kicking like a chaos spell

just blocks everything

[balmy condor]

which now that I think about it back here, that's not cosmic, that's chaos

cause chaos is everything

so then cosmic is arcane holy nature shadow

but the fatebound coins flurry on outlaw

just don't think about anything

easier that way

[humble cradle]

For fatebound does stat priority change at all if you’re purely concerned with mythic+ as opposed to raid?

[balmy condor]

can drop some haste to get more mast

but in general no not really

[lime edge]

how much less dmg is it in m+ to go deathstalker

[balmy condor]

5-8%

[lime edge]

cooked

[balmy condor]

we love more effort for less damage

[humble cradle]

Ok. Is there an ideal split between haste/mastery? I know it’s always listen to robot just want to know for my own knowledge really

[balmy condor]

no

[humble cradle]

Ok. Thank you

[little current]

thats hero talents for ya

[sonic zinc]

nvm about os ms whispyr

mplus waiting room time

[balmy condor]

[restive bay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1062846465648623636/puzzlebox.gif

[little current]

you quit pee to play shit

💔

[digital folio]

i'm really struggling with some good parses, looking for nothing too fancy, but i did full grey today, can someone look at them and say where i messed up ? I feel it's the apex management but i see nothing else

[near valley]

it's 99% not apex management

[sonic zinc]

im bored af

being sat this week for trials rn

[near valley]

if it's full greys that's a lack of critical information somewhere

[digital folio]

Can you maybe look over this fight ? i did put it in wowanalyser but only info i got was working on the envenom uptime
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HDT3Bjqmg6ZA7dtV?fight=13&type=damage-done

[near valley]

oh u meant ilvl grey parsing

that's a lot less dire then

[spice spire]

Man I can’t see your talents or gear

[quiet star]

Trying to plan gearing a bit, how actually dumb is to craft loa ring?

[spice spire]

But also no puzzy b

Also no warrior or shaman??

Like you’re missing some buffs in general dog

[worn geyser]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/elune/Schatz his talents are fine, but ring enchants need to be eagle, and ye no puzzyb or gaze sucks unfortunately

[coral ibex]

if you dont have all raid buffs then you can't really expect good logs

[digital folio]

I understand these buffs are missing, i thought without you could still get some blues without them, i wasn't expecting grey on ilvl that's all

[coral ibex]

ilvl parses aren't real

[buoyant herald]

I mean you can sim it but why would you want to craft that embellishment over hunt plus arcanoweave or 2 x arcanoweave?

[worn geyser]

ilvl parses are kinda fake

[coral ibex]

nobody who knows how logs work cares about ilvl parses

you got a 60 with missing raid buffs, thats fine

[quiet star]

I will have myth bracers/cloak/belt from pos, so it make no sense to replace them now

[buoyant herald]

Youd be better of crafting a normal ring (stat flexibility on recraft) and use other embellishments elsewhere

[quiet star]

and one ring slot is empty

[near valley]

ilvl parses are what I use to smokebomb any of my opps

[buoyant herald]

Hmmm

[quiet star]

so I can use it for second embelishment

[buoyant herald]

Craft head or legs with arcanoweave instead?

As your off tier piece

You should sim though, you might find bracers with arcano is better than 289 version and a normal ring craft with preferred stats is better

[quiet star]

boots already myth as well with crit mastery
head is set(set pants have bad stats)

[digital folio]

Thanks for the info, i'll keep that in mind for the future ! i feel a bit better

[buoyant herald]

I’d just be hesitant to throw 80 crests at a ring you’re locked into

Reality is the overall difference will be minimal anyway so fill your boots though, only sim can tell you how big a difference

I crafted that ring on my ele sham for similar reasons to you, but they like crit/mast so decision was a bit easier

[quiet star]

ye, maybe I just should wait for another week and see

I guess if somehow I will get gaze ring for crit/mastery wouldn't be that useful

[random quarry]

okay guys i played sin a bunch before midnight but ive been sub all of midnight. for some reason my guild is bringing me into m paladins prog tonight. Does anyone have any good last second tips?

[thorn thorn]

@haughty flicker It wasnt too bad

[red zealot]

Any idea why my quick sim would be so much lower than Sub/otl

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/a4rhYQuBkRwhKkAjUbbVzt

Otl and sub are 106k and 104k

[zinc frost]

Your simming cleave it appears

[red zealot]

Patchwork

[zinc frost]

No cleave talents

[acoustic roost]

Also 7min

[red zealot]

Mmm let me check

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/esW4Bt4gfRase8FU3kRNvy pull talents from Wowhead was going with a build from WCL for Chim still seems low

[random quarry]

are we using fan of knives on 2 targets?

[storm forum]

Without blindside yes

[severe meadow]

Can you bonus roll the tier token thing?

In raid

The Nullcore

[coral ibex]

yes

[severe meadow]

thanks pookie

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-trumpet-gif-4622525

[normal mist]

You dont use sims to compare dps between specs / classes

Sims are used to determine your best upgrades

Btw im part of the big boys now

[red zealot]

IS there a reason why you wouldnt amongst the specs your class can play?

[viscid spear]

The 280 club?

[normal mist]

Sim between specs? For starters, outlaw Sims for st would be false from the get go

[viscid spear]

Nice, I'm hovering at 278
Damn belt is holding me back

"eh we don't wanna kill Saladbar just for a belt, just do keys"

For clarification we killed every other boss last night except him

[normal mist]

Besides that, if there are adds in the raid fights, you can't compare a patchwerk Sim to the raid boss

[normal mist]

Just get pit belt like I'm trying to do

(I really need a hero belt to catalyst, lastbpiecw remaining)

[viscid spear]

Pit gave me pants
How can I hold them up without a belt?

[viscid spear]

Dumb Champ belt

[sacred oyster]

POS belt is better than saladbars anyways so least some comfort there.

[zinc frost]

Avoidance god roll

[viscid spear]

We killed Imperator, Vorasius, and Dragons for trinkets. Then we killed Paladins so we can kill Crown for stuff.
Then we went to March to kill bird for trinket.
But no, we couldn't take a few minutes to kill Solidcar

If I weren't watching hockey right now I'd be in the pit

[dawn seal]

guys

the other day

i killed chimarius on my rogue

apperantly i was the only 260 assa rogue that killed in that item level parse range

i got a %100 i lvl parse

[onyx veldt]

i

will

go

crazy

[dawn seal]

[cunning needle]

not to beat the dead horse up

but why not list your own key

[onyx veldt]

trying to pug mythic chim

[cunning needle]

oh

gl then

[onyx veldt]

ty will need it

[cunning needle]

put in note "9 second stun for fear add"

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-fire-invitation-burn-limitations-of-water-gif-21453128

[radiant quarry]

Havent played sin whole xpac. Do i want to let envenom drop at the 80 implac stacks for the regen and then start envenom again to get the next one rolling?

[buoyant herald]

Yep, as long as you won’t cap energy to do so

[radiant quarry]

ok, thanks!

[jaunty bluff]

to follow that up, for aoe you dont really worry about implac?

[balmy condor]

You do

But you have more energy with bigger aoe

So you worry about it progressively less and less

However if you’re in need of energy and your regen can’t keep up, you would proc implac

It is just bonus energy

[jaunty bluff]

gotcha, feel like im overthinking it lol

[radiant quarry]

got it. I did a paladins run as sin and havent played all xpac, so 11 parse, as you do

i wasnt warmed up at all lmao

[balmy condor]

Most likely, yes

That is the #1 mistake honestly

[viscid spear]

How to play Sin: Turn your brain off.

[balmy condor]

Basically yeah

If no dot then dot

Press cds

Press envenom

Repeat till brain turn to mush

[jaunty bluff]

going back and forth between sin and outlaw is night and day lol

having a lot of fun on both specs

[buoyant herald]

I feel like they’re quite complimentary if you want to change it up. Both scratch different itch for me

[jaunty bluff]

Yeah different enough to be refreshing to swap

[buoyant herald]

Nice that they both love crit and haste too, super easy gearing

[jaunty bluff]

yup! thankful for that

[severe meadow]

pobbers

[fallow canopy]

bird down

[golden loom]

Gz

We killed paladins yesterday, had a great 0.2% wipe and then I played a bit scuffed on kill

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[gray hazel]

Are we still conisdered a funnel spec in M+?

[zinc frost]

Deathstalker has funnel

[snow hamlet]

we HAVE very high prio damage, even if no funnel

[severe meadow]

fight is making me wanna do unthinkable things

I feel like I had more fun on SHs

[analog shoal]

guys new assa here, are we not supposed to refresh rupture in pandemic, and also have to look out not to overwrite stronger dots? my logs are really bad and I've tried to figure out what I'm doing wrong, and wowanalyzer says this, is this still true?

[zealous moth]

I'm pretty sure our bleeds don't snapshot buffs

press [x] to doubt

[worn geyser]

we did not get the birb

[zealous moth]

also that is not an absolute guide, there may be some instances where you grossly overlap a rupture

for example you're on chimaerus with 15s left on rupture and you reapply it before swapping to adds to gain uptime

so take those with a grain of salt

[analog shoal]

tyty!

[zealous moth]

also that X > don't need to pandemic rupture on the envenom is only really relevant if your rupture expires

[storm forum]

Did someone take over wowanalyzer for us? Cause it wasn't updated for a while

[zealous moth]

you should always aim to reapply bleeds when they have <6 seconds left, but that can change based on necesity

will you lose a bit of pandemic extra time? yes, but it doesn't represent a dps loss as long as you keep as much uptime as possible

not a relevant one at least

something something one extra gcd

[analog shoal]

could you maybe take a quick look at my log (the left one here)?
it's a comparison with someone w/ similar ilvl and fight time, but damages of almost all skills seem to be really low for me (like envenom is 11000 vs 19000), I must be doing EXTREMELY wrong, just can't figure out what

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/btHcw1NaCT3APKhf/RTkNagwtJZdxD82W?fight=10%2C37&type=damage-done&source=20%2CHuder

[zealous moth]

well for one thing, this person is running imp poisons while you are not

that means less overall amp poison procs for you

which can translate to lower envenom damage

i'm not sure of how relevant that 5% is in practice, but that may be a factor

[analog shoal]

tyty very kind of you

[zealous moth]

i'm pretty sure we are just running full ST for m vora and just tunneling

your caustic spatter did 404k total damage

so it didn't really do much

also, imp poisons will def help you ramp your kingsbane faster

which translates to more damage

kingsbane is this other dude's second highest damage

and it did like 1.6m more than yours with same amount of casts

[analog shoal]

damn so glad i asked

[zealous moth]

oh you also don't have box

that chunk of mastery gives a big damage boost to kingsbane during deathmark

[analog shoal]

ah kk

tyty i wish you a lifetime of happiness and health

[zealous moth]

also 1 minor optimization, if you are running imp garrote, when you get into your second deathmark make sure to vanish > garrote for the damage amp

[golden loom]

I kinda enjoyed it

The 2nd pot execute cds makes it worth it

[zealous moth]

no worries! happy to help 😊

[severe meadow]

I missed last weeks prog because I had the flu so I'm just now getting some pulls on it

it'll prob get better

[golden loom]

I hated SH with a burning passion tho

So any council fight is better in my mind

[severe meadow]

I feel like we killed SHs pretty quick so I didn't feel like I suffered quite as bad

[golden loom]

Mainly cause I had a bricked cpu during it so it was a laggy mess

[sharp stump]

When you say this, are we holding our vanish from our opening all the way until we hit 2 mins again? Or are we using vanish after first improved gar ends to reapply then pushing our DM back to sync it up w/ vanish. I guess it depends on fight length and how many 2 mins we can squeeze out no?

[buoyant herald]

i think its better to save since you'll get imp garrotte for the entirety of your CDs on pull anyway

[proud prism]

What can i do to optomize my gear to do more DPS

[onyx veldt]

give me plume

maybe

[proud prism]

i also got this bad boy

[golden loom]

Well you are in aoe talents for one

[proud prism]

i was doing vaelgor

[golden loom]

Ah, well I would farm a puzzlebox if I were you

Feather is pretty stinky

[weary crypt]

For the implacable buff, am I trying to maintain 80 stacks so I can drop envenom buff when I have low energy? or do I forget about that buff?

[waxen oyster]

still have yet to see one

well im out of npx jail now

[proud prism]

i have puzzle box but in heroi

[golden loom]

Still better than feather for sure no?

[proud prism]

over mythic feather ? or guidon ?

[golden loom]

Either 😂

[proud prism]

danggg

[golden loom]

Sim it ofc but like 99.9% sure its wayy better

[proud prism]

right now my sub build is 97k and my sin build is 87 k )':

[sacred oyster]

PB is just BIS, same way even hero gaze still beats mythic trinkets too 🙁

i had hero gaze in vault but i couldnt do it to choose a hero item in vault to replace a fully upgraded myth trinket.

[waxen oyster]

hero gaze doesnt beat myth plume

i think

but gl getting myth plume

[golden loom]

If you have myth plume you prob have myth gaze

[sacred oyster]

yeah id ont myth raid so myth solarflare was my best 2nd option which I got, and hero gaze beats it

[waxen oyster]

i need a myth plume whenever i play pirate

clearly

[golden loom]

Hero gaze is 0.8% or smthin better than a 289 solarflare prism tho

[sacred oyster]

@proud prism you can convert your boots to the set boots instead, those are our best for feet slot

[onyx veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486284970806083584/1486152563371016261/00-4x.gif

[vernal adder]

[sacred oyster]

yeah i got that last night too, is nice for my alt now

[onyx veldt]

what does it do i dont even know

XD

[sacred oyster]

alts get half crest cost upgrades all the way to hero tier

[onyx veldt]

ohhh thats nice

[vernal adder]

And you can buy myth with hero

[sacred oyster]

that too

[onyx veldt]

WERE LOCKED IN

[sacred oyster]

its good to focus 1 main before going hard on alts so you can gear them faster

[onyx veldt]

yhh thats perfect

i wanted to level another rogue

[sacred oyster]

wat lol

[onyx veldt]

:3

[sacred oyster]

i thought i had masochist tendencies

why wouldnt you just gather w/e other gear you need on current lol

[onyx veldt]

more chance

to get

gaze

[sacred oyster]

that you then cant use on the other rogue

[sweet current]

how does it help gear the alts faster? do they get discounts on upgrades or something?

[onyx veldt]

yup

[sacred oyster]

yes, its 10 crest per gear upgrade instead of 20, so less crest to grind out.

[sweet current]

how do you activate the discount? does ur main need to be a certain ilvl ?

[sacred oyster]

once your warband gets the achieve like he screenshotted above

when you no longer have anything left to upgrade on your char for that crest type

[sweet current]

oh i see

[sacred oyster]

for hero tier, when everything is hero 6/6 or myth 2+

[fresh kelp]

for myth its just 285 ilvl

but ye others it has to be full

[sacred oyster]

(having 1/6 upgrade tier is a common gotcha of why you havent unlocked the achievement yet)

[sweet current]

so if my main has that achievment and doesnt need to use hero crests anymore, then my alts Heroic track pieces are discounted, thats how it works right?

[sacred oyster]

yes

[onyx veldt]

are u leveling alts @sacred oyster ?

[sweet current]

nice

[sacred oyster]

yeah i apparently chose the 2nd least popular class to go with rogue being unpopular of holy priest lol....

[onyx veldt]

LOL

[waxen oyster]

play disc

[onyx veldt]

i wanted to play shadow at first..

[sacred oyster]

nah im a classical style enjoyer. i like for cast heal > health returns

[vernal adder]

I got devil alt, ret pala

[onyx veldt]

i have a fury

[sacred oyster]

i played white mage in FF11/14

[onyx veldt]

lowkey fury and sin are similar

without

the bleeds

and poison

and aoe

but other than that its the same!

[waxen oyster]

fury is more like outlaw

[golden loom]

One is perma apm

One isnt

[onyx veldt]

idk i dont like outlaw

might level a ret too

[waxen oyster]

devourer alt

[onyx veldt]

me no like devourer

[golden loom]

Arms, havoc, frost dk

Uhdk cringe, frost based!

[onyx veldt]

enh is fun too

[sacred oyster]

i char boosted a devour to 80 and haven ever played it beyond taking it into a TBC raid to try to farm mount and having no idea how to aoe with it

[golden loom]

Havoc is the alt I wanna play the most but rolled myth gaze on the other 2

[onyx veldt]

idk feels like the spec needs another builder

[waxen oyster]

oh yeah havoc still good

[onyx veldt]

youre just spamming consume

[golden loom]

Feel like it might be one of the most underrated specs atm

Cause of devourer

[waxen oyster]

it only is because

its other spec is op ranged

[golden loom]

My 2 first vaults on it was myth puzzlebox and a myth axe

[sacred oyster]

wait, its havoc thats the mid range right,i think thats what I had it on

[golden loom]

[sacred oyster]

ive just had no interest to try it though

[waxen oyster]

no

[golden loom]

No havoc is melee

[waxen oyster]

they also still have real funnel

[sacred oyster]

barely get 2 classes fully done with each weekly tasks, dont have time for others. can evaluate when rogues fully done i guess

[golden loom]

I wanna know how it feels to play on paladins, cause I swear it might be the tankiest dps spec in the game

[waxen oyster]

more than dk?

[onyx veldt]

lowkey ret is fun

[golden loom]

Legit think it might be

Or on the same level

[waxen oyster]

havent checked midnight

you get an insta demonsurge on meta now

iirc

[golden loom]

The leech is insane, the 15% hp shield on every blade dance (and you double blade dance after every eye beam)

[golden loom]

Yeah and you can actually abyssal gaze in meta now

[waxen oyster]

oh that got fixed?

[golden loom]

Also you have 2 charges of 35% dr blur + budget will of the necropolis

[golden loom]

Yeah

Felscarred is legit just season 3 felscarred without the cringe

Its great

No tier set soul minigame either

[waxen oyster]

love holding my 2nd beam cuz it won surge

[deft vault]

holy i got lucky this week. had a shit vault so i took an extra bonus roll. i bonus rolled the pit dagger andpuzzle box yyesterday and i just bonus rolled the crit haste ring from nexus point lmao

[onyx veldt]

grats

[golden loom]

Yeah now your first global of the fight is eye beam

Eyebeam -> hunt

To then save the hunts eye beam damage buff for abyssal gaze

16 step opener

[waxen oyster]

pretty standard

did you play the np opener

[golden loom]

Nah I only leveled a bunch of alts at the end of s1

[waxen oyster]

sigil of flame for mastery

[golden loom]

So didnt really play dh until s2/s3

[waxen oyster]

backflip for crit+eb

[onyx veldt]

dh lore is so cool

but idk

i just cant play that class at all

[waxen oyster]

kinda like old sunb

[golden loom]

"opener finished" bro the pack isnt alive anymore..m

[waxen oyster]

ass tight 5s burst windows

per 40

yeah havoc openers always like this

[golden loom]

Kinda glad EB isnt played atm

[golden loom]

Yeah only problem is that the apex buff you get from the hunt only lasts 12 seconds, so its really tight to get it on your next eye beam outside of lust

Otherwise its fun af

[waxen oyster]

what you didnt like vr through bosses side then hit eb

and proceed to whiff

[golden loom]

[waxen oyster]

havoc only spec where your direction of backflips

mattered

[golden loom]

Looking at insane havoc players is satisfying due to that yeah

[waxen oyster]

yeah on nymue it was

lmao

[main flame]

Does having crippling on affect damage at all in keys or st? Or does have 3/4 poisons not matter

[analog shoal]

guys quick question, should we wait for 80% implacable to drop off even during CDs? it feels awkward not pressing envenom during deathmark / kingsbane 🙁

[onyx veldt]

no

[analog shoal]

tyty!

[onyx veldt]

no worries bro!

[rugged basalt]

Never hold during dm kb windows

[balmy condor]

no

only your lethal poisons

[main flame]

Tyvm

[onyx veldt]

hi @rugged basalt

[rugged basalt]

maybe I push the io up. maybe I just do 10s. maybe i end it all just to know what it feels like

Oh hi

[onyx veldt]

LMAO

[dire flume]

maybe you move back to eu

[rugged basalt]

propaganda

and im still here!!

[polar jasper]

Do we pool energy b4 our kb only window?

[balmy condor]

it's not a dps gain to do so, no

[polar jasper]

Ok tyvm grand master

[balmy condor]

depending on the situation you might do it just cause it feels better though

it's not inherently a loss either

[main bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/193278651020738561/1405612265117454408/caption.gif

@static glacier

[fluid ibex]

when do u guys usually re-apply your bleeds? sub 3s ?

[balmy condor]

!pd

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[balmy condor]

in this window

[rugged basalt]

When the nameplate icon changes colour I reapply bleed

[runic hinge]

Idk if this is stupid or not but like the bleeds tick down around a square so when I see it hit the last quarter of the square I reapply

[humble verge]

fuck man

they fixed the hearty food buff

[static glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/zoner-mitch-ray-cat-gangster-gangster-cat-gif-16912949345515615768

[rugged basalt]

NOOOOOO

[vernal adder]

They what?!

[rugged basalt]

food prices will skyrocket again

[vernal adder]

[golden loom]

?

[rugged basalt]

It was working as of last night

(10 hours ago)

did u rebuff correctly

[humble verge]

you could hearty the stam+mainstat and then use whatever food to refresh it as long as you didnt log out with the hearty to begin with

[golden loom]

Ah ye

Never did that

[warm parcel]

Tea would make it so you dont refresh hearty, so make sure it wasnt tea.

Sad day, if fixed tho

[crystal heath]

hello guys there is anyway to up kingsbane stacks quickly?

i'm lost 😢

[golden loom]

Have envenom buff up and autoattack

(also dont track kingsbane stacks)

[crystal heath]

I'am parsing very bard cause of that

i dont understand why i'm not doing alot of dmg with kingszbane 🙁

what i'm doing bad ther eplease : https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3fzpanKLAh7yvJGD?fight=17&type=damage-done

[subtle tundra]

how do you know its caused by that

[crystal heath]

i'm not sure but i compared to top1 its outperforming

[subtle tundra]

i think its cause you dont know how to use your buttons

[crystal heath]

what do you mean ?

[real pike]

Need to press DM before KB

[golden loom]

Well the puzzlebox should be before deathmark/kb

[real pike]

And get to 5cp before each finisher

Go and read the wowhead guide

Especially the rotation part

[subtle tundra]

and then you do it again

[real pike]

Whispyr has youtube videos too if that's more your bag

[crystal heath]

k will try

[subtle tundra]

and again

[real pike]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Guides:

• WoWhead - by Whispyr
• Method - by Whispyr
• Icy Veins - by Seliathan

[subtle tundra]

not a single correct use of your cds

[crystal heath]

ok i'll try to do well on cd

[subtle tundra]

you used kb on boss then started hitting adds

why is kb not stacking i wonder

🥱

you use a lot of ruptures on adds

[crystal heath]

yeah because i'm on mono

[subtle tundra]

ok and

[real pike]

What's mono

[crystal heath]

dont have crimson

[subtle tundra]

ok and

[crystal heath]

i shouldnt rupture mob?

[quiet star]

I have a question about big pulls, why we actually press burst before spreading bleeding? isn't that will be a wasting of burst?

[subtle tundra]

if an add dies in 10 seconds and you used a 6cp rupture on it, you lose a lot of damage

[oak tangle]

to an extent, our cds's just work, what are you gaining by hitting the target you dm'ed

[real pike]

Most people are doing keys low enough you just want the full duration of KB to be doing something

[quiet star]

the more I play it sounds more logicsl to garotte-fan-rupture-garrote-and spam CT at least few times even with 5 cp

[real pike]

Especially with the bloody puzzle box

[quiet star]

and then press Box/Deathmark

[real pike]

If you're pushing like 17/18+ then maybe it makes sense but also

[quiet star]

but deatmark makes bleeding damage 100% heavier, and if it's not spreaded you wasting time of this buff, no?

and spreading alone can take 5-10 secs in bigger pull

[real pike]

If you're spending 6-10 seconds to spread bleeds while dm/kb are not on cooldown, you're losing casts over the court of the dungeon

Course*

More casts better

[real pike]

DM only applies to your main target

[oak tangle]

^

[quiet star]

on 15/16 mobs already stay alive for whole dot

[quiet star]

oh

my bad

[oak tangle]

and realistically all you are doing is swapping mut / ct / fok

you're still envenomin the main target

[subtle tundra]

wait you really thought it was AOE

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/961448855700914176/1433956400186265713/togif.gif

[quiet star]

not really, at night I have reading something and just go to sleep with this idea

maybe some brainlag

because at night I was like "wait what"

[wide halo]

lets say I'm a moron with low ilvl in a group of pumpers and I desperately want Iron Wire, and I'm willing to lose a lot of damage to get the heal on vanish and the 3s after stealth talent as well as iron wire on the other branch. what would be the best nodes to sacrifice? (for m+ obviously)

im thinking internal bleeding from assa tree and from rogue tree either cold blooded killer, the tea, or deeper stratagem which they all sound very relevant but if im 240 and party is 270

[crystal heath]

Assa is too funny but hard 😢

[dire flume]

https://klipy.com/gifs/goodfellas-funny-how-1--k01KQESZHE6G4DN6PPV56TP5GJ6

[subtle tundra]

you dont

its a very bad talent

[rugged basalt]

Very confused on premise

[subtle tundra]

iron wire silences 1 mob

and doesnt spread with ct as some still think

its just better to use a kidney shot than to take iron wire

[rugged basalt]

Practice the correct rotation on a training dummy

[sand token]

Is a champ Gaze with myth puzzle really better than crucible/flare + Box? or are my Sims fked

[subtle tundra]

idk why you're doubting the sim

[winged sun]

@midnight mist

[subtle tundra]

2 bis trinkets are better than one

[winged sun]

oh wrong channel

[sand token]

Cause its just champ track gaze

[subtle tundra]

ok and?

crucible is champ too

and flare sucks

[dire flume]

i fixed his rotation dw

[subtle tundra]

goat

[sand token]

Ok sorry for asking

[subtle tundra]

ok sorry for answering

i gave you the critical thinking answer instead of yes/no

so next time when looking at a sim you can think

[sand token]

Ok and? Just sounds like an ass

[subtle tundra]

i am an ass

get over it!

ass rogue

tits rogue...

mmm...rogue....

[dire flume]

armpit rogue...

[subtle tundra]

real

[hollow river]

[crystal heath]

hahahahaa

thanks goat

[rugged basalt]

Where

[rugged basalt]

For a period of time, lfr gaze was simming +300 dps over crucible for me

[sand token]

Aight will just Stick with my Gaze and Box gonna try to get a hero one later this week

[rugged basalt]

I ran the whole season without a single gaze (trinket) until like this Tuesday where I used my bonus looting

[subtle tundra]

try to get a myth one

its even more dps

woah varas u da goat

[rugged basalt]

Vestige is wis

Follow for less information

[static glacier]

How’re you gonna say the whole season when we’re in the middle 😭

Say this when it’s over

[normal mist]

Maybe it's over for him

[humble verge]

we are week 6 so kinda

sure its still gonna be like 16 more weeks until next raid tier but

[rugged basalt]

Have u seen my messages or media

Everything I say is sensationalised and doomposting

[dire flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463291144699121868/1468987673162027018/icantfuckingread.gif

[viscid spear]

I think about you

[vernal adder]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/646043012924964896/1499283598832963624/image.png?ex=69f43c29&is=69f2eaa9&hm=9ac64e1e2c9888e768512ed8709ed55748a7aca0f8aa0f593aafffbdd9ea9db8&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=733&height=754&

[severe meadow]

[cinder mountain]

is our 4pc shit af?

[subtle tundra]

yes

[viscid spear]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021517178081660990/1380065222873583667/caption-1.gif

[vernal adder]

quite hungry actually

[subtle tundra]

#metoo

[onyx veldt]

u got gaze on BR?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486284970806083584/1486152563371016261/00-4x.gif

[balmy condor]

It’s about as good as 2 piece

Just can’t compare to sub

Cause sub tier is actually like 4x stronger than every other set in the game for no reason

[zinc frost]

Got any thoughts on what you would want s2 tier set to focus on?

[balmy condor]

No

[viscid spear]

Whispyr just reads patch notes, weeps, then opens this channel and puts it on slow mode

[dire flume]

i think it should focus on shiv and the blade throw

[spice surge]

Bleeds in some way for me, i prefer when assa isnt just green eviscerate man

But i know some people like the poison vibes so

[night cipher]

I remember Blizz saying something along these lines for tier sets : S1 is getting used to the changes from the past expansion. S2 is going in a direction with a twist. S3 is crazy-ish experimental

[spice surge]

Yep thats typically the way they go about it

[night cipher]

I really wish we could stop being ferals. Just go all poison already

[spice surge]

Case in point

[rugged basalt]

Every desired DR gear actually

[onyx veldt]

happy for you!

https://tenor.com/view/man-trying-to-kil-himself-joke-fake-suicide-laughing-suicide-fake-jumping-gif-150330258641611340

[cinder mountain]

really? i didnt analyse really deep deep but it seems all spells that are buffed are low dmg

and 10 energy meh

will revisit it

[balmy condor]

30% garrote damage ain’t really all that great either :P

2 piece gains value in aoe

But like, neither one is that great

3%/3% in st

[dire flume]

whats the ideal power from a tier set though

[balmy condor]

For s1 it seems like their goal is 3/3

[dire flume]

especially given regular class balancing on top of it

[balmy condor]

Well classes are balanced with tier in mind

So that’s not really a factor

[rugged basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-cute-hamster-2d-capcut-gif-9886956225429890134

[spice surge]

Probably something like 3/3 first tier, 5/5 second tier and 7/7 last tier

Seems to be their goal

With some variance across specs ofc

[balmy condor]

Yeh something along those lines

Could be 3-6-10 as well

But in that range generally

[spice surge]

Having tier sets be too warping can be fun, if the effects are fun

But if theyre not particularly enjoyable to play, having it be like 20% can be a bit oof as it warps the entire spec around it

[dire flume]

imo a tier set should always change the spec in some interesting way between each season but half the time its just the same as the base sepec gets a little better

should get the diablo tier set designers on it

[spice surge]

I thought S3 tww was really solid with the hero talent tier

Deathstalker was a bit of a letdown, but trickster and fatebound were both interesting and fun

[balmy condor]

Yeh I mean the only way they’re gameplay impacting is their power has to be insano high or they have to legit just add entirely new mechanics

Like they can’t just buff things

[dire flume]

id be fine with both as long as it was interesting 🤷‍♀️

[balmy condor]

Yeah you would be, but there’s obviously problems with doing either one

[quiet star]

tried meld in m+ for restealthing yesterday, not that bad, but sometimes doesn't work

[balmy condor]

Ye

[subtle tundra]

avg sub tier set

i will fucking meow at you

[sharp viper]

fun past tier sets should become talents or hero talents imo

[spice surge]

They do

Or at least a good chunk of them

Rapid injection and dashing scoundrel are two that come to mind immediately

[frosty cedar]

Grudge match my beloved

[spice surge]

Most of assas tree is based on previous tiers/legendaries/azerite powers tbh.
Zoldyck, scent, doomblade, shrouded and thrown precision

Which is neat

[subtle tundra]

why did god give humans 2 feet but only 1 mouth

🐴

[dire flume]

you got other holes dont you

[frosty cedar]

mouth is just a sphincter. You have two

[spice surge]

So you wouldnt dig too deep and too greedily

[subtle tundra]

i guess its to limit human greed

[subtle tundra]

"would you still love me if i was a worm" nah worms have no feet

[rugged basalt]

no feet no love

[subtle tundra]

no armpits either

genuinely downgrade

human to worm

[rugged basalt]

hugging feet emoji

We need that emote here

[viscid spear]

[rugged basalt]

We need this

[severe meadow]

Y’all freaky in the morning