Outlaw to my understanding is the same for wanting 23% haste then dump to other stats
#assassination
rancid root
brave gyro
Peperige Farm remembers Multistrike
and raid buff
and cheat death working
on 3 min cd
rancid root
Didnt know if Sin cared about breakpoints or if just everything to Crit/haste
onyx veldt
but there is a decent belt on chim mythic
im still new so i dont raid lol
sacred oyster
something to consider, next week you will obtain up to 3 mythics, so you will have value holding onto crests to upgrade them instead.
strange onyx
im still new so i dont raid lol
if u got 4 piece and pants as off piece
make a pants
onyx veldt
ok bet
strange onyx
Glad to be of service!
sacred oyster
the bonus roll system will allow you to get an extra 2 mythics from 10 keys next week
brave gyro
something to consider, next week you will obtain up to 3 mythics, so you will ha...
I put my faith in you, not 4th crafting and believing i will replace my crucible trinket before next patch
onyx veldt
ive been trying to farm waist and pants from windrunner for the past 2 days and it wont drop lmao
strange onyx
@balmy condor @frosty cedar @spice surge we gonna need all men on deck for next week
All the bonus roll questions
sacred oyster
i got lucky and got the hero delve pants 🙂 which are super good
frosty cedar
oh god
balmy condor
All the bonus roll questions
handled by guides
haughty flicker
good thing i cant read
strange onyx
forgot they drop learning next week
sacred oyster
@onyx veldt belt you can shoot for pit of saron for, lot of good rogue things there
onyx veldt
<@1331788299999776795> belt you can shoot for pit of saron for, lot of good rogu...
oh okay good to know
sacred oyster
i got a socketed belt 😄
i still need that damn neck though, its my last champ piece
fallow canopy
good thing i cant read
Its a hard life for us reading impaired
sacred oyster
ill be dropping all my bonus rolls on POS lol
onyx veldt
also whats consider a higher key? 10+?
haughty flicker
Its a hard life for us reading impaired
sacred oyster
you need 10+ to get myth from bonus rolls
it effectively gives you a great vault tier item
onyx veldt
yeah no i meant like every1 keeps saying "assa is better in higher keys" but what exactly is a higher key LOL
sacred oyster
also, if you dont like your great vault, you can turn it into tokens and buy an uncapped bonus roll, and then go use it in your dungeon of choice
brave gyro
also, if you dont like your great vault, you can turn it into tokens and buy an ...
wish that was the case this week 😔
dire flume
yeah no i meant like every1 keeps saying "assa is better in higher keys" but wh...
in this case 14+
quiet star
Hey all, how assa in m+ st?
dire flume
but "high key" usually changes based on the player and what they consider, but assa doesnt really get to shine in 10-12
onyx veldt
in this case 14+
tysm
onyx veldt
but "high key" usually changes based on the player and what they consider, but a...
okok
sacred oyster
wish that was the case this week 😔
well, you could have grabbed the tokens this week then used them next week still
brave gyro
yeah, but I would've had to have thought of that
(i didnt know u could buy bonus rolls)
rugged basalt
They only made a blue post about that today, after the initial post
sacred oyster
but "high key" usually changes based on the player and what they consider, but a...
i have no issues being #1 in 10 keys unless another like geared person of a meta class is in group with me and they then go use CDs at same time as me and gimp my dmg
sacred oyster
They only made a blue post about that today, after the initial post
well it was in yesterdays patch notes reveal
dire flume
i wouldnt top on assa unless my friends were on 230 rats and i was playing sudden demise in a 10
strange onyx
i have no issues being #1 in 10 keys unless another like geared person of a meta...
u are meta lbud
blud
sacred oyster
but theyve also mentioned details on the system earlier, just didnt fully understand it before
not sure if the thalassian token thing was revealed earlier than yesterday though
rugged basalt
i didnt see the part about buying it until the next post
im doing my one key for the day now 
sacred oyster
one tip for the lower keys, stagger your puzzle box with DM on trash packs (DM+KB 1 pull then PB+KB next pull), then you are pretty much using a CD every pull so its less conflicting with overlapping others CDs. I can pretty much maintain near 200k until first boss on pit (which ST then brings the overall average down)
onyx veldt
one tip for the lower keys, stagger your puzzle box with DM on trash packs (DM+K...
noted ty
rugged basalt
how much do you do overall
sacred oyster
130k~
rugged basalt
nice
sacred oyster
ive mainly done 10-11, gonna try to complete all 12's this weekend. but been working my alt up recently too since my rogue is pretty much capped out minus just the pit neck to get now since i dont do myth raiding. though ima try to get a full hc clear in this weekend too.
elder agate
every single key is maisara....
i love that key lol
rugged basalt
im scared lol
viscid spear
im scared lol
Hi scared I'm dad
primal parrot
real pike
i love that key lol
Level?
elder agate
man i should start to swap to assa for higher keys
100%
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
shadow agate
Sin links in the doc. Honestly feels about right haha.
terse rapids
is there any good options for tracking implacable? i'm sure everyone here knows about the cool down manager bug
vast shuttle
i dont get the apex tree do u want to stop using envenom at 80 %? and when i do that i dont rlly see much of a gain and people say stop enevnom but idk what i do it for
shadow agate
is there any good options for tracking implacable? i'm sure everyone here knows ...
Unfortunately no not really, outside of watching your buff. in the upper right, even then still buggy I believe.
terse rapids
quality
balmy condor
Sin links in the doc. Honestly feels about right haha.
raidbots gets rid of sims after 30 days :P
shadow agate
Yeah, just too funny in the big scheme of all the chaos this spec lives through hahaha
balmy condor
i dont get the apex tree do u want to stop using envenom at 80 %? and when i do ...
when envenom times out, the apex procs and gives you increased energy regeneration
that's why you would want to drop it
shell crater
So, Draught of rampant abbadon is simming higher for me but I thought Light's potential was better?
runic hinge
draught silences you
rugged basalt
It got nerfed a little bit
oh trust me im bing chilling
coral ibex
yep
shell crater
bet
rugged basalt
oh trust me im bing chilling
15 deaths and somehow still timed the 13
fleet whale
Timing a key is timing a key
rugged basalt
My anxiety said otherwise but I’m relieved that we timed it 
rare isle
!haste
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Stats
You will always get more accurate results using Raidbots Top Gear, as stat values will flucuate depending on gear and situation.
Agility (Item level) > Crit > Haste > Mastery >>>> Vers
The ratio between secondaries ends up being roughly 40/33/26/1
native heron
In what situation do I just spam use envenom? Only during death mark?
balmy condor
or if you're high on energy
clear ingot
Do you recklessness pot before or after puzzle box? I guess before would give crit and after is mastery so which is better dps?
balmy condor
Do you recklessness pot before or after puzzle box? I guess before would give cr...
you hopefully never recklessness, but if you did for some odd reason you would want it to give crit
clear ingot
oh the primary pot is better?
balmy condor
significantly
clear ingot
well guess that also answers the question, appreciate it!
weak crescent
Mann i feel so dry on bosses in Mplussy
buoyant herald
tells tanks to pull trash onto bosses 😄
balmy condor
hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that doesn't do much these days
native heron
or if you're high on energy
Okay perfect! Thank you so much! By the way I miss your pool training weakaura
balmy condor
was a decent idea
in practice kind of just ended up being super janky and didn't really help
but I'm glad you liked it
buoyant herald
hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that doesn't do much these days
well it doesn't help the actual boss damage but it'll make details show a higher number for the encounter
which is the most important thing
buoyant herald
if i had a dollar...
balmy condor
I wonder if that guy from yesterday did end up playing sudden demise in his raid
might've been an elaborate troll
not sure
buoyant herald
what was the cook, adds die so fast it's the only way to get value?
balmy condor
he was in a guild with 3 other rogues or something and he's the only assa rogue
so he was trying to feelcraft how to pad
and we were like
???
just kill boss idk
and he said it doesn't matter if the boss dies, it only matters where he is on the meter when it dies
buoyant herald
theres a much better way to pad as assa rogue, the solution is on the character select screen
balmy condor
yeh idk
haughty flicker
and he said it doesn't matter if the boss dies, it only matters where he is on t...
holy fuck
my hero
balmy condor
could've just been a bit
haughty flicker
balmy condor
butr like
that's just class discord for you
it's russian roulette if it's someone that's good at the game trolling out of their mind, a complete noob, or someone so disconnected with reality that it doesn't matter what you tell them
buoyant herald
i'd argue it doesn't matter what you tell any of those people
balmy condor
well ideally it's a fuck/marry/kill situation
low hare
@balmy condor when we spoke a couple weeks ago about box, you (or someone in the convo) said to hit box after deathmark, should i be hitting b4 or after?
buoyant herald
i think i agree with your order
balmy condor
you help the noob, you kill the disconnected with reality, you mute the troll
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> when we spoke a couple weeks ago about box, you (or someon...
before
warped moon
how do im swotch deathstalker mark onto myself
warped moon
thank u
balmy condor
yeah idk why anyone would want to cast after deathmark
that doesn't make much sense to me
low hare
that doesn't make much sense to me
pretty sure someone suggested it, you said something like "yea if you want to pump" likely sarcastically, and i took it litterally
balmy condor
maybe idk
low hare
but yea it felt sooooo wrong
warped moon
pretty sure someone suggested it, you said something like "yea if you want to pu...
if u have a phone u have a lawyer
balmy condor
if you shoot fatebound into the sun then we'd have to play deathstalker though
warped moon
... oh no
ok just outlaw
ive been having such bad luck, i still have a champ dagger
i wonder if i should just craft another
balmy condor
probably fine to
low hare
but maybe
lol just for shits i wanted to know what google ai thought of the idea, its funny how it directly condradicts itself
warped moon
yeah maybe the fish hook?
balmy condor
definitely fucking not
warped moon
ill wait til tuesday i think then craft fish hook
balmy condor
you'd craft a regular dagger
balmy condor
lol just for shits i wanted to know what google ai thought of the idea, its funn...
the thing to note about all the AI models is they don't actually have an understanding of world of warcraft, so they often just hallucinate snapshotting and other game mechanics that simply aren't there
warped moon
i guess that would take away 4 myth upgrades
balmy condor
I did a stream during midnight beta where I asked chatGPT to help me re-write the sim APL
just as like a funny meme
and it was actually horrid
it was able to spit out correct syntax for the most part cause it was able to lift it from the github wiki, but the logic itself was absolute gibberish
it was saying I should envenom if envenom's cooldown is ready
rupture if envenom isn't on the target
it even hallucinated that rupture applied garrote at one point
kindred oriole
Yeah but ChatGPT is not a great AI in my opinion.
balmy condor
yeah surely the other ones would be better
kindred oriole
Yeah.
balmy condor
yeah of course
gleaming geyser
kindred oriole
He told me Claude Code.
balmy condor
it's not like all these fucking gurgling dipshit AI's are cannibalizing the same data
kindred oriole
I think AIs are just not good at these types of tasks that require creativity. For example they are terrible at chess.
For now**
balmy condor
idk, giving envenom a cooldown is pretty creative
thorn thorn
idk, giving envenom a cooldown is pretty creative
burnt
true lintel
does anyone actually like playing fatebound
balmy condor
yes
true lintel
deathmark is way more satisfying imo
zinc frost
Not having to worry about a shitty mark
true lintel
and not rng coin flippa
lost hedge
Any other Sin rogues have an issue where you sometimes use garrote to open on an enemy and it will make the sound/animation but it... like doesn't work? No I'm not lagging
zinc frost
deathmark is way more satisfying imo
Good news you can use deathmark AND fatebound
true lintel
Good news you can use deathmark AND fatebound
wdym
frigid void
Do I ever push thistle tea or should I always just let it proc automatically?
warped moon
Any other Sin rogues have an issue where you sometimes use garrote to open on an...
yes
it happens to me a lot
i thought it was desync but it isnt so idk
lost hedge
it drives me crazy and i was wondering if it was a me issue or a known bug
balmy condor
deathmark is way more satisfying imo
you think it's more satistfying to hit shiv on 6cp, force yourself to 7cp for darkest night, lose a debuff to random bugs, and have to keybind an extra button just to be able to target swap?
rain mortar
deathmark is way more satisfying imo
I can understand your point on death mark having the potential to be more satisfying but it’s just not with how stupid it is right now
verbal sable
Whispyr never happy
warped moon
can we find a middleground on the hero specs by deleting outlaw
verbal sable
Whispyr always happy
balmy condor
my main thing is just people always bitch about rogue is so convoluted and has so much friction for no reason and it's so janky
but then once or twice a day, people actively advocate for the janky, friction-filled, convoluted hero talent
and it's not like I'm anti-friction and anti-jank, I'm mr "assa should be slower and energy should be earned"
but deathstalker is so irredeemable to even me
warped moon
playing around the debuff is weird
i dont like it
but i do like the deathstalkers so hopefully it becomes playable
rain mortar
I think the fantasy behind deathstslker and concept is probably favorable to most people who want to play a rogue, but like the hero tree just sucks. It is what it is
rain mortar
Agreed
zinc frost
Played an entire expansion having to deal with deathstalker and all its jank - very happy to flip coins forever at this point
warped moon
i think the fantasy of it is just wrong tbh like how theyre doing it right now
rain mortar
People just want it to not play like shit. Try to convince themselves it doesn’t. They are wrong
warped moon
like nothing about it feels deathstalkery idk..
it just feels like i cant find the mob i debuffed haha
rain mortar
Just call fatebound deathstalker and instead of flipping coins call it some deathstslkery thing and call it a day. All problems solved.
weak crescent
I didnt play war within
warped moon
feel like deathstalker hero tree should get gloaming powder..
warped moon
lemme use smoke bomb in pve 
balmy condor
lemme use smoke bomb in pve <:HMM:1126310195199488040>
trickster
rain mortar
i wish so bad they gave us smoke bomb and it worked similar to an amz. would be so nice
warped moon
raven phoenix
i wish so bad they gave us smoke bomb and it worked similar to an amz. would be ...
20% dmg reduction like priest barrier
latent kernel
Rogue shouldn’t gotten darkness in the form of smoke bomb
true lintel
you think it's more satistfying to hit shiv on 6cp, force yourself to 7cp for da...
Yea i liked the gameplay loop of deathstalker massive envenoms way more than flipping coins tbh. It does have flaws but i dont think the flaws are in the gameplay just the bugs
im a D1 outlaw hater cause of rolling dice to flipping coins is not my forte. I dislike how we take the hero talent and dont interact with it in any way really
balmy condor
Yea i liked the gameplay loop of deathstalker massive envenoms way more than fli...
the..... bugs?
radiant aspen
who doesnt like gambling
severe meadow
A 14m crit has nothing to do with how cringe mark is brother
radiant aspen
fatebound is best rogue trait
true lintel
big number make brain go brrr
radiant aspen
its just fact
true lintel
hurr durr flip coin dont interact turn off screen
radiant aspen
thorn thorn
hurr durr flip coin dont interact turn off screen
Oh oops your mark vanished cuz game thinks you applied it already
20% of your damage just vanished
very cool design
true lintel
yea but thats not design its a bug
thorn thorn
A bug that has existed since its existed
true lintel
the problem isnt the hero talent its a bug
balmy condor
yeah but forcing yourself to max cp and having to press shiv on 6cp, that's just how its designed
thorn thorn
It may as well be a feature
Its been around for so long
Not like its a new thing to deal with
The ability to move the mark doesnt actually solve this problem either
true lintel
trust me ive malded over losing mark a lot in TWW but i still prefer interacting with my hero talent than passive coin rng
theres just no satisfation with flippin coins passively
thorn thorn
There is also anti-satisfaction in playing death stalker currently because its janky
Does not feel smooth
Its very cringe
zinc frost
When deathstalker gets redesigned into something fun let me know
thorn thorn
You are stuck having to babysit this mark mechanic which has worked so well everytime they have decided to add a mechanic like this to a spec
I cant think of a single time it has not worked
Surely this is the time they got it right
balmy condor
interacting with hero talents is fine
if the base of the spec isn't interetsing
or complex
true lintel
yea and i dont think assass falls under a very complex spec
balmy condor
assa is probably one of the most complex specs in the game atm
true lintel
perhaps some bias in that
balmy condor
in what way
true lintel
you being a long time assa player
thorn thorn
Most of the game is
Consider the following
Assa likely has the most gameplay interaction of the 3 specs
drifting path
upvoted
balmy condor
I am not basing this off of my opinion
balmy condor
rogue and assa especially is often cited as janky and convoluted
having a hero talent that is also those things
doesn't make sense
if the base was less convoluted
then sure, build an interesting hero talent on top
worn geyser
i liked dsm
true lintel
i personally think assa is the easiest to learn of all the rogue specs
balmy condor
easier than sub?
true lintel
maybe not now since sub got dumbed down alot
static glacier
yea and i dont think assass falls under a very complex spec
Bro nothing is complex anymore then
Everything is some variation of 2 buttons on repeat
worn geyser
sub got like 3 buttons now
honest mantle
are we clicking puzzle box before or after deathmark
static glacier
Sin has timing to play around with apex
true lintel
but pre midnight sub was i think top 3 most complex specs
static glacier
Others have no actual decision making
cunning needle
sub wasn't even that hard pre midnight tbh
radiant aspen
bro have u ever used puzzle box
cunning needle
it looked hard
radiant aspen
that shit is rocket science
cunning needle
but everything kinda falls into place
true lintel
i havent played outlaw this xpac but if its like it used to be knowing when to reroll buffs was a large decision
static glacier
i havent played outlaw this xpac but if its like it used to be knowing when to r...
Try it
weak crescent
i havent played outlaw this xpac but if its like it used to be knowing when to r...
RTB WA moment
static glacier
It’s a fucking number, you get a 1,2,3 or 4 roll
honest mantle
i used to hate it before, but now its fun
green pivot
recommended haste on assa?
radiant aspen
ngl RTB WA was easyer then outlaw now 
static glacier
You keep 3 or 4 always. 2 is generally kept outside of a super fringe optimisation where if you have loaded die and kir ready and you would press kir, you first reroll for the chance to hit 3 or 4 - loaded die guarantees 2 at minimum then Kir
But like that’s the exception and it’s giga minor, everything else is braindead
true lintel
but the dance macarbe window on old sub and cooldown alignment was way more convoluted than assa has ever been imo
static glacier
but the dance macarbe window on old sub and cooldown alignment was way more conv...
I’m going to say this once
weak crescent
Current Outlaw is harder for me bcs no WAs 
radiant aspen
i think assa is hardest atm coz our bis is puzzle box
static glacier
Stop comparing midnight specs to non midnight
Whispyr said it’s one of the most complex specs atm
static glacier
Not of All time
honest mantle
https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerdge-gif-23738139
frfr
true lintel
im GoInG To SAy tHiS OncE ERMMM
static glacier
Ur a fucking idiot eh?
honest mantle
superiority complex going crazy
true lintel
Whispyr said it’s one of the most complex specs atm
my godking whispyr said it so now i repeat it like i know everything !!!
true lintel
You can’t understand what atm means?
who?
radiant aspen
true lintel
honest mantle
@static glacier are you playing assa because its hard?
drifting path
radiant aspen
i play assa coz its aura
worn geyser
natural aura dont need a buff
balmy condor
I leave for 5 minutes what kind of fucking brainrot happened
radiant aspen
i run in dot everyone go afk to solve puzzle
drifting path
we missed you
cunning needle
I leave for 5 minutes what kind of fucking brainrot happened
you now need to defend your hill of "assi is a hard spec"
thorn thorn
but the dance macarbe window on old sub and cooldown alignment was way more conv...
New enhance is also a fraction of the difficulty of old enhance
static glacier
you now need to defend your hill of "assi is a hard spec"
I’m pretty sure just posting apl conditionals compared to most other specs shows it no?
balmy condor
you now need to defend your hill of "assi is a hard spec"
I don't really have any horse in this race
I said my thing
radiant aspen
ngl i would never play spec thats named : SUB
drifting path
Kinda sad we live in such a pruned state of the game
just do what blizz wants and pla with a xbox controller
balmy condor
they disagreed
radiant aspen
SUB 3
cunning needle
!sub
prisma monolithBOT
"why are people playing assassination now???"
- Assassination prio damage is really high
- Subtlety does a lot of aoe burst, which made it great in lower keys at the start of the tier compared to assassination
- Subtlety has gotten nerfs to black powder, while assassination has received buffs over the last month
thorn thorn
they disagreed
fallow canopy
!why
prisma monolithBOT
"why are people playing assassination now???"
- Assassination prio damage is really high
- Subtlety does a lot of aoe burst, which made it great in lower keys at the start of the tier compared to assassination
- Subtlety has gotten nerfs to black powder, while assassination has received buffs over the last month
elder agate
!why
prisma monolithBOT
"why are people playing assassination now???"
- Assassination prio damage is really high
- Subtlety does a lot of aoe burst, which made it great in lower keys at the start of the tier compared to assassination
- Subtlety has gotten nerfs to black powder, while assassination has received buffs over the last month
thorn thorn
whos bright idea was it to give why a command
fallow canopy
whos bright idea was it to give why a command
thorn thorn
cunning needle
weak crescent
coral ibex
radiant aspen
sonic zinc
!meta
prisma monolithBOT
"why are people playing assassination now???"
- Assassination prio damage is really high
- Subtlety does a lot of aoe burst, which made it great in lower keys at the start of the tier compared to assassination
- Subtlety has gotten nerfs to black powder, while assassination has received buffs over the last month
keen spruce
thorn thorn
!buffs
prisma monolithBOT
narrow berry
Guys is it okay to only use 3 poison in m+ ?
I feel like the one who slow mob is just messing too much things
If i start to put garrot / rapture on the first adds of maisara i cant really spread fast with ct
They dont reach the range of the big pack
brisk fiber
Is deathstalker potentially the choice in m+ now, if moreso with the patch?
narrow berry
That fast
severe meadow
It moving it still giga ass tbh
elder agate
Guys is it okay to only use 3 poison in m+ ?
yes
narrow berry
@elder agate 1% loss no ?
elder agate
u use the double for damage, and the dmg reduc / slow on cast
elder agate
<@755863153123917834> 1% loss no ?
wtf no
radiant otter
it's not a loss
people were talking about this yesterday and like 2 weeks ago but i can pretty conclusively say lethal dose is definitely only lethal poisons. it would be 4% (2% for crip and 2% for atrophy) but 10 minutes autoattacking dummy with and without and deadly poison damage is exactly the same
single target raid build minus doomblade, deathstalker instead of fatebound, removed my procs like wrists and weapon enchants and gaze, autoattacking with deadly + amp compared to deadly + amp + crip + atrophy, multilate 3 times just to refresh snd for more hits
elder agate
<@755863153123917834> 1% loss no ?
use the deadly and the amply. also atrophic
just dont use crippling
balmy condor
people were talking about this yesterday and like 2 weeks ago but i can pretty c...
can you link the logs
narrow berry
Ok i will only apply 3 then thank you
cunning needle
mages....
coral ibex
who needs em bro
coral ibex
nah the cc is op
marble wadi
It hard carried my aa 16 but i still hate aug ngl
ripe marsh
Anyone else seeing Caustic Splatter pull random things through floors in Magisters Terrace, or any other dungeons?
marble wadi
Nah but i saw it cleaving thru the wall on the first boss
crisp sluice
in M+, do we wanna prioritize getting caustic off, or legit spam crimson tempest 8 times to spread to all 16 targets
like wheres the break point when finishing with envenom is better than spreading to EVERY available target
ripe marsh
Nah but i saw it cleaving thru the wall on the first boss
That was it for the first boss, it also pulled the last boss from the floor below and the Pack in the middle below the floor leading up to the top floor.
cunning needle
like wheres the break point when finishing with envenom is better than spreading...
gonna go out on a limb here and say always
bright turret
Envenom does a lot more than get caustic going, spend those points
lime edge
bitter brook
is it worth garrote rupture garrote in aoe in m+ or should i just go straight into crimson tempest after rupture
worldly condor
is there an addon that tracks implacable since the blizzard CDM is bugged?
severe meadow
p sure you can through arcui but annoying to do
severe meadow
is it worth garrote rupture garrote in aoe in m+ or should i just go straight in...
no you want garrote in the CT
bitter brook
ya i mean just the additional garrote to make it 31 sec
severe meadow
yeah, might as well anyway while tank is gathering
bitter brook
true true
severe meadow
if you think they'll explode in less than that time then maybe not
bitter brook
sometimes those pink guys be blasting
quiet star
how assa rogues works in ST scenario in m+? I'm currently playing feral and every boss fight is like you can go afk because of dogshit damage
marble wadi
go in with your cds vanish when deathmark and kigsbane are up for improved garotte
slam envenom
marble wadi
how assa rogues works in ST scenario in m+? I'm currently playing feral and ever...
drop implacable when refreshing bleeds if you feel dry
vivid elm
does anyone implacable just drop off of CDM sometimes?
spice surge
does anyone implacable just drop off of CDM sometimes?
!implac
prisma monolithBOT
Implacable is bugged in Blizzard's Cooldown Manager, there is no way to "fix" it.
Until blizzard fixes it, you just have to either count your envenoms or glance at your buff bar if you're trying to be optimal. Ignoring it when it bugs is <1% loss.
indigo mulch
Its a bit annoying that implac is bugged, its not the end of the world but its a sour reminder that we used to WA's 😄
gilded oasis
someone linked a working addon for it earlier. there is no customizing how it looks or anything but it tracks it properly it seems
indigo mulch
Really? 😮
clear ingot
Envenom Ignoring buff duration is totally fine outside of the apex If you hit 80 stacks on the apex, AND WILL NOT OVERCAP BY DROPPING ENVENOM OR SHORTLY THEREAFTER, you would drop envenom
Can someone please explain this in a bit more detail?
Does this mean that if you hit 80 stacks, it's better to keep envenoming at 5cp anyways or should you let envenoms buff drop once at 80 to start the energy regen?
The drop wording is just confusing me a bit sorry
gilded oasis
if waiting for envenom to drop and the increase in energy after doesn't cause you to over cap - then let it drop. if you will over cap, then keep rotating until you can drop it and not have wasted energy
indigo mulch
Addon works pretty well tbh.
gilded oasis
yeah id just like to resize lol
indigo mulch
I play with as little addon as possible though D; I just have the most essential stuff tbh.
golden rune
Is there a specific way to write a macro for Puzzle Box and DeathMark?
indigo mulch
I even use cdm no weakauras here D:
Not really no
I just have it on another button 😄
golden rune
😢
indigo mulch
I know there used to be a line that prevents you from reseting. Not sure if its still in.
I just keep puzzlebox on another key though ;s
clear ingot
if waiting for envenom to drop and the increase in energy after doesn't cause yo...
thanks heaps that's great
gilded oasis
its good for your brain to have a different keybind for trinkets. keeps it working
otherwise you might fall asleep
indigo mulch
I mean assassination is rocket science compared to what sub has become 🙁
gilded oasis
I have TWO trinket keybinds
indigo mulch
keen spruce
When will blizzard implement haptic damage scaling on variable keyboards so the harder I press my button the more damage I do?
indigo mulch
Im' sure razor, logitech and all those keyboard makers would love that feature.
gilded oasis
I would r1 all the time
keen spruce
Gimmy the carnival hammer bell thing on every key
Wasd with ring, middle, index would become wasd with fist
blazing kayak
what do we think best spec for high keys is gonna be after tuesday
radiant aspen
what do we think best spec for high keys is gonna be after tuesday
same as now
keen spruce
Assas always does pretty good in high keys
But to answer your question I have no idea
indigo mulch
Academy first pull with bl as assa feels really fun 🙁
Big numbers makes monkey brain go "oohh"
keen spruce
🙊
autumn sierra
Heyaaaa!
Im debating about switching from Sub, but im not yet playing high keys, dipping my toes into 15s now.. Are we performing well in low keys too? 😮
coral ibex
not really, nothing lives long enough below a 12
glass fulcrum
!ui
prisma monolithBOT
Resources:
ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
(Jundies Profile)
(Whispyr's Profile)
Misc:
Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement
autumn sierra
not really, nothing lives long enough below a 12
but im talking about 15 and above 😮
coral ibex
you said low keys
strange onyx
Go assa
autumn sierra
you said low keys
15s are low keys, no?
cunning needle
not really, nothing lives long enough below a 12
15s are also low keys 
autumn sierra
15s are also low keys <:pepeGrin:1131142369618710578>
exactly, hence the question
midnight mist
(Idk what sub does anymore #bringbackBPspam)
Spams bp
keen spruce
Spams bp
It was the only season I played subs spam bp, press that AoE finisher thingy, tweak out during cds
Very cozy
rotund oak
15s are low keys, no?
average/mid
rotund oak
<:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
😂
static glacier
average/mid
Average in what sense? Would expected average to be 10 as the most common, not that 14-15 feels much different
balmy condor
Wasn't there a command to see bugs?
we don't have that command here
rotund oak
Average in what sense? Would expected average to be 10 as the most common, not t...
purely inside the variation.. not in terms of difficulty
u know the graph thingy
static glacier
purely inside the variation.. not in terms of difficulty
Really? It’s more bell curved than I expected then
coral pivot
we don't have that command here
Oh, so it is in the sub channel? Is there a list somewhere with assa bugs?
static glacier
I was expecting weekly keys to peak frequency then drop off from 13 and up
rotund oak
Really? It’s more bell curved than I expected then
maybe yeah,its even more curved,still about that ''range''
but not 100% sure
maybe will have to check the actual data to correct myself
static glacier
The curve will shift up over time, atm I still reckon alts / turbo boost or w/e it’s called still affects things since people aren’t in push mode yet
rotund oak
yeah true
balmy condor
Oh, so it is in the sub channel? Is there a list somewhere with assa bugs?
nop, I put the impactful ones in the pins to talk about, but we don't really have anything "impactful" aside from CT being jank, but that's all accounted for in theorycrafting already
coral pivot
nop, I put the impactful ones in the pins to talk about, but we don't really hav...
Fair fair. Was also just for curiousity really
vestal ravine
hey does anyone know how to make my garrote show the duration on cdm rather than just the 6 second window:? ;[
driving me nuts
low ruin
Sounds like you are tracking imp rather than normal garrote
coral pivot
hey does anyone know how to make my garrote show the duration on cdm rather than...
If you are using AyijeCDM then go into Layout - Pick Garrote - Check the "Show Aura Overlay"
vestal ravine
ahhhhhh yes! thanks man appreciate it
driving me mad trying to track it on nameplates
coral pivot
ahhhhhh yes! thanks man appreciate it
Only thing to note is that it won't go "grey" when you don't have garrote on the target
It is because of how Ayije has written the addon though. Only happens with his
vestal ravine
ye thats cool makes life alot easier 😄
floral birch
Does anyone know a way to see the rupture and the garrote in big pulls? I had a mod in Plater but it's not working anymore.
keen spruce
turns out i didnt
Apply harder king
jolly stirrup
Classic
honest comet
Been there.... wondering why my damage seemed abyssmal up to the first boss in caverns... turns out my poisons dropped after the first pull
proper rain
oh, we dont need to bind thistle tea? (im just lv 89, leveling up)
honest comet
It triggers automaticly if you drop low
trim cairn
I have been playing some with SD even on higher keys, and it just seems to perform better than the regular build? Anyone else played around with it some?
analog field
whisp did you check the guy saying crippling doesn't work with lethal dose? It has been the trend of the week people coming here saying to drop crippling and not believing lethal is affected by it. Also what is the dmg loss by not applying crippling, do you have a rough estimate?
proper rain
maybe a really stupid question, which poisons do i apply for m+? I am currently not playing super high keys
oak eagle
i assume deadly, crip, atro and amp
proper rain
and do we always use 2x daggers? also might be a stupid question but just wanna make sure
proper rain
ahhh
proper rain
i assume deadly, crip, atro and amp
all these can not be applied at the same time?
oak eagle
is the default wowhead build not running dragon tempered blades
oak eagle
okay i thought so
analog field
2 lethal and 2 non lethal
proper rain
and what about wound, never?
oak eagle
wound only ever if theres a mob in keys that desperetly needs ms
and the only mob i can think of is the devourer blueberry in MGT
and theres a few in there
proper rain
alright and what about weapon speed, do we care about it at all? or just equip highest ilvl dagger in mh and whatever in off hand?
oak eagle
always equip highest ilvl in mh
proper rain
regardless of speed?
balmy condor
all daggers are the same speed
balmy condor
whisp did you check the guy saying crippling doesn't work with lethal dose? It h...
I haven't taken a look at logs yet
oak eagle
my goat whispyrs awake
balmy condor
not often
oak eagle
rip
balmy condor
sometimes I go to sleep at like 5 and wake up at 9
and then I roll over and sleep till 1
oak eagle
bros drinkin too many "waters"
rugged basalt
Sleeping for more than 3-4 hours is a luxury
terse rapids
it even hallucinated that rupture applied garrote at one point
Wait but actually that would be so based. Blizzard write this down.
brave gyro
I've rolled under a 7/100 on every item this week 
trim cairn
whisp did you check the guy saying crippling doesn't work with lethal dose? It h...
Why would crippling work with lethal dose unless it was bugged? The talents says your weapon poisons and bleeds deals increased damage for each of your lethal poisons/dots, not non-lethal poisons like crippling?
frigid lagoon
what buff do you guys pick at algethar
cunning needle
vers
analog field
Why would crippling work with lethal dose unless it was bugged? The talents says...
Because tooltips for rogue and for wow in general are random. And they have been working for the past 2 years for sure
So if it is not working, it is bugged 😛
brave gyro
i started picking up matery after i naturally get over 40% crit, but not sure if its the play
golden loom
well the wording on lethal dose changed didnt it?
trim cairn
i started picking up matery after i naturally get over 40% crit, but not sure if...
You can sim your stat scales to see which buff would be the best
analog field
well the wording on lethal dose changed didnt it?
I think it was always like this. Also whisp thinks it is working so we just wait and see
analog field
i started picking up matery after i naturally get over 40% crit, but not sure if...
mast is not a percentage so it is kinda weak compared to the others
brave gyro
If that's the case, maybe haste or vers will be the play for higher keys
trim cairn
Also I am at 40% crit and crit still sims higher than other secondaries for me by like 10%
brave gyro
i thought we don't trust stat wights
trim cairn
I'm not talking about a static priority list here, but sims
strange onyx
sudden demise op or?
trim cairn
sudden demise op or?
Yes king
strange onyx
slamming it in these 10s
cunning needle
i thought we don't trust stat wights
the stat bonus is also not all equal between them (at least last i checked)
trim cairn
Sudden demise build best for blasting imo
golden loom
I'm not talking about a static priority list here, but sims
yeah I think he just meant that you should not use the stat weight thing in raidbots (idk if you are)
strange onyx
gonna go Sudden demise in raid tonight
trim cairn
yeah I think he just meant that you should not use the stat weight thing in raid...
I use the most current simulationcraft builds and just sim stat scaling locally, am I doing it wrong?
golden loom
you just sim in topgear
if you are using the stat weights tool then you should not do that
golden loom
ah no idea what that is
brave gyro
where/how can I check this?
golden loom
not really sure why that info is useful tho
golden loom
hell no
trim cairn
I guess you are right
It's like heroine
Once you try it you can never really go back
The dopamine hit of constantly slamming mobs for 250-830k damage is too much for my fried reward circuitry
jolly heath
Anyone know how big ret pally funnel is, is it better than assa?
I got a ret pally divine storm my funnel into boss
cunning scaffold
Is there an addon that tracks implacable better than the blizzard cdm that breaks constantly
trim cairn
this is not good !
In a functional build with no shenanigans
Biggest hit I have seen is 2.1m when I was running REDSUCK60SBANG build
quaint locust
sudden demise op or?
can u show this build?
trim cairn
can u show this build?
Its in the FAQ unless he is running a bootlegged version like me
balmy condor
Is there an addon that tracks implacable better than the blizzard cdm that break...
There’s a workaround on arcui by making a counter or something but it’s janky, doesn’t actually track implacable, and it’s a headache to set up
Anything that actually tracks implacable would be bugged
Since you can’t track it
You’re just reskinning the blizzard cdm
balmy condor
Bro there is no shot you have simcraft downloaded locally to run fucking raidbots stats weights
trim cairn
Bro there is no shot you have simcraft downloaded locally to run fucking raidbot...
There is a shot 😛
strange onyx
can u show this build?
its just a meme was doing weekly 10s with guildies, boosting 1 hunter and we do entire first area to boss and entire last area and they both died
balmy condor
25x the effort for the same shit result 
trim cairn
You mean the crit buff in algethar is shit?
cunning scaffold
Thanks for answering. I wonder how long implacable tracking is gonna be scuffed
trim cairn
That's the only purpose I was using it for lol
balmy condor
No, the crit buff is good because it’s crit
But simming stat weights is super bait because it’s a terrible indicator, even if it was remotely worth simming, stat weights isn’t going to tell you the algethar buff regardless lmao
static glacier
Thanks for answering. I wonder how long implacable tracking is gonna be scuffed
it's a gamble, could be two three weeks in a hotfix, could be an entire patch
balmy condor
Cause you’re simming rating and the algethar buff is a flat % increase 
cunning scaffold
They could even fix it one patch and break it again in the next lol
balmy condor
If you did that on sub you’d get haste best stat and then take the legit 0 dps algethar buff
static glacier
That's the only purpose I was using it for lol
flame him for not telling you how to sim %buffs like algethar
balmy condor
But it’s pointless anyway, taking 3% crit is the very obvious choice here
cunning needle
wym? can't you just update the pawn string with the AA buffs
trim cairn
I have been though apparently for the wrong reason lmao
balmy condor
wym? can't you just update the pawn string with the AA buffs
I actually hate tou
static glacier
wym? can't you just update the pawn string with the AA buffs
idk they're a bit fucky, the tooltip is cooked ingame too
subtle tundra
But it’s pointless anyway, taking 3% crit is the very obvious choice here
ill have you scream my name in obviousness
cunning needle
I actually hate tou
balmy condor
I have been though apparently for the wrong reason lmao
Yeh something something broken clock twice a day
trim cairn
It happens no biggie
balmy condor
Stat weights are legitimately pointless though cannot suggest it for anything
They’re at best a rough approximation of gem sockets
strange onyx
i need an eastern european
balmy condor
And at worst they’re just flat out wrong
static glacier
Stat weights are legitimately pointless though cannot suggest it for anything
you forgot that they're quicker than actual droptimiser sims
idk maybe that coach whistle shit? but idk why it's worth simming
balmy condor
you forgot that they're quicker than actual droptimiser sims <:HOLY:125089344018...
Bro he’s running the sim locally on the client
He’s not in it for the sim speed
static glacier
oh shit
cunning needle
i acutally still use stat weights, but only to make it quicker to run droptimiser sims with gem replacements
static glacier
bro is back in 2012
cunning needle
to then realise that everything is 0.2% difference and i cba recrafting for that
balmy condor
He’s stuck reliving the day the towers fell
trim cairn
HAHA
trim cairn
I always found the options and everything better
polar sail
Dialing his family on his rotary phone
Bro where the class tunning
polar sail
What class tuning
New class tunning i mean we need for dps!
static glacier
New class tunning i mean we need for dps!
let's just see how stuff like the mm rework lands then wait for tuning
trim cairn
Whispyr got up on the wrong foot today
balmy condor
“This random in the rogue discord has no concept of time, what do I tell him”
balmy condor
why do they take day offs?
Had to ban a guy 2 years ago because he actually crashed out that bugs weren’t getting fixed over Christmas
polar sail
“This random in the rogue discord has no concept of time, what do I tell him”
Bro the patch 90% for healers we need for dps
strange onyx
Bro the patch 90% for healers we need for dps
what
polar sail
I am joking
strange onyx
are u saying
static glacier
Bro the patch 90% for healers we need for dps
alright, what changes do you want
list em go on]
normal mist
Had to ban a guy 2 years ago because he actually crashed out that bugs weren’t g...
i remember this like it was yesterday
polar sail
😂😂😂
balmy condor
That’s somehow worse
trim cairn
alright, what changes do you want
sudden demise now instantly kills mobs at 35% regardless of damage on dots
strange onyx
Is this what happens when EU wakes up
be kind to my people
strange onyx
sudden demise now instantly kills mobs at 35% regardless of damage on dots
Careful
static glacier
sudden demise now instantly kills mobs at 35% regardless of damage on dots
can this work on bosses?
trim cairn
Whispyr is gonna Sudden Demise me soon I feel it
static glacier
balmy condor
also NA like 8 hrs ago was cancer
You’d think the aliens all rerolled to better classes
polar sail
alright, what changes do you want
20% more buffs
wary reef
sudden demise now instantly kills mobs at 35% regardless of damage on dots
Bleeds have been removed
static glacier
You’d think the aliens all rerolled to better classes
I don't even think they play rogue, I think they just come in here as a group, meme and then sit on disc or in dms like haha you got em bro haha
also I got the feeling they were 16 or younger
the whole aura shit
litteral children
balmy condor
Every day I wake up to a group of howler monkeys in the class discord throwing their poop around and eating lice out of each others fur
And I question what the point of it all is
static glacier
atleast this isn't outlaw
strange onyx
It is all about that sweet community
trim cairn
Same as any kind of leisure activity, entertainment
static glacier
no randos there but it's like they permanently have really depressing prog metal on 24/7
or maybe decalius
balmy condor
atleast this isn't outlaw
Outlaw on non-patch days is actually kind of chill sometimes
I’ve opened outlaw a couple times lately to escape the horrors of assassination
It’s been a vibe
strange onyx
Without the assassination discord we would have never met!
balmy condor
What a dream
trim cairn
Outlaw on non-patch days is actually kind of chill sometimes
They are too busy constantly mashing their keyboards in game
main bobcat
https://tenor.com/view/cray-lost-it-gone-mad-going-mad-stressed-gif-5502030
come key
trim cairn
Assa rogues have time during pooling to alt tab and brainrot in the discord
balmy condor
Outlaw actually the most chatted channel in the discord btw
dire flume
That’s somehow worse
hey man i woke up got ready, went to see a friend for their bday and did my weekly shopping
now its shit post time
static glacier
come key
ive been sitting in this chim mythic pug for like 20 mins
i can't betray them now
crisp pine
Outlaw actually the most chatted channel in the discord btw
makes sense
they probably type faster
static glacier
- i wanna take my chance on trink before picking vault (hc plume)
dire flume
Outlaw actually the most chatted channel in the discord btw
is this because zac sends his messages in bouts of 8 messages
like a zoomer
strange onyx
What a dream
balmy condor
now its shit post time
You are unironically not even on my radar to be concerned about
The bar has been set in hell
main bobcat
i can't betray them now
hope you take a sip of your fav drink and it goes on the wrong canal in your throat and you cough and do that shit when it comes out your nose, splash your keyboard not enough to ruin it but just enough for it to be real sticky and super annoying to clean
dm me when you want keys
dire flume
The bar has been set in hell
ok ill start posting fart fetish stuff i gotta get on top of the list
crisp pine
wtf
static glacier
hope you take a sip of your fav drink and it goes on the wrong canal in your thr...
jokes on you, ain't had my favourite drink in months
balmy condor
ok ill start posting fart fetish stuff i gotta get on top of the list
Okay I’m slightly concerned
trim cairn
I got a better laugh out of your 9/11 crashout on me than I did wiping keys for hours yesterday because tanks die like flies to auto attacks
static glacier
ok ill start posting fart fetish stuff i gotta get on top of the list
you tryna compete with quake or smth
strange onyx
Yoooo, can we get a concern tier list?
static glacier
i wouldn't enter that lane
balmy condor
I got a better laugh out of your 9/11 crashout on me than I did wiping keys for ...
I live for comedic relief
primal parrot
balmy condor
But also I’d hope any joke would be funnier than running keys for hours
strange onyx
how could u ever be mad in keys?
primal parrot
you people get to play keys?
static glacier
how could u ever be mad in keys?
you have not met thecow
main bobcat
my bad gang
main bobcat
you have not met thecow
NO
strange onyx
I did some tours of the rift last expansion
static glacier
shoutout the shaman doing 0.3dps overall
main bobcat
bro mo I had another one didn't take screnshot but a druid did 7 dps
trim cairn
It's like a dot that buffs my Sudden Demise build
strange onyx
I am now immune to being mad in WoW
static glacier
7 😮
gray briar
Does anyone got a ADD ON or Plater MOD that show if **Caustig Splatter **is missing or is about to go off?
trim cairn
Except I am the one that will suddenly die at 35% health irl
crisp pine
Does anyone got a **ADD ON** or Plater MOD that show if **Caustig Splatter **is ...
what
balmy condor
Does anyone got a **ADD ON** or Plater MOD that show if **Caustig Splatter **is ...
Dare I ask why you would need that
I’m afraid
dire flume
and why did you put it in bold letters
strange onyx
Concerned even?
dire flume
very concerning
primal parrot
just seven
crisp pine
Caustic is applied by envenom now friend
strange onyx
Put it on the concern tier list
static glacier
Does anyone got a **ADD ON** or Plater MOD that show if **Caustig Splatter **is ...
everything that cares about it applies it anyway, forget it exists bro
balmy condor
I’m not concerned, I just have a lot of questions
gray briar
Dare I ask why you would need that
well in a big pull i like to know if it is more then 3 sek not active
main bobcat
actually scrap that mo come aram
balmy condor
well in a big pull i like to know if it is more then 3 sek not active
Why wouldn’t it be
crisp pine
well in a big pull i like to know if it is more then 3 sek not active
why would it ever
main bobcat
leave raid it's against the chari3a bro
crisp pine
what are you pressing
static glacier
well in a big pull i like to know if it is more then 3 sek not active
how're you having it not active, did you just stop pressing envenom for ages?
mint ravine
well in a big pull i like to know if it is more then 3 sek not active
if you dont use envenom as main spender that caustic drop off i cant help you bro
gray briar
hmmm well y, ur right.
analog field
I mean just add it to your buffs if you want
gray briar
ok forget it 😄
strange onyx
I have been using the one button rotation lately and sometimes my caustic falls off aswell in weekly 10s
analog field
I have added it, but it is just clutter
balmy condor
If we ain’t pressing envenom we have much bigger issues than a plater mod
gray briar
I mean just add it to your buffs if you want
nah u cant get it to the nameplates anymore
analog field
you get it to cdm though
primal parrot
If we ain’t pressing envenom we have much bigger issues than a plater mod
the combo points disappear into their ass or smth idk
analog field
which is something that you are looking at
balmy condor
the combo points disappear into their ass or smth idk
Bring back target based combo points
gray briar
you get it to cdm though
y but cdm only shows it if u have the add in ur target.
primal parrot
Bring back target based combo points
balmy condor
5 crimson tempests, envenom tab envenom tab envenom tab envenom tab envenom
crisp pine
but you have your target targeted
hidden tech?
having your target actually in target?
main bobcat
Bring back target based combo points
was this liked in classic
crisp pine
was this liked in classic
no lmao
analog field
was this liked in classic
you would misclick tab and lose all CP
static glacier
was this liked in classic
bro this shit was around as recently as wod iirc
main bobcat
some of the shit I see in classic wow when friends stream is INSANE
analog field
i was playing feral
balmy condor
but you have your target targeted
That’s what you think buddy, I have my tank targeted so I can press tricks, am I mouseover my entire rotation
analog field
and it was so funny
strange onyx
That’s what you think buddy, I have my tank targeted so I can press tricks, am I...
This is good misinformation
main bobcat
playing feral or losing your combo points
crisp pine
That’s what you think buddy, I have my tank targeted so I can press tricks, am I...
that's what no trickster does to a man
main bobcat
sorry
analog field
swapping to an add and losing like 6 cp
cause you forgot to press finisher before swapping
static glacier
swapping to an add and losing like 6 cp
you didn't get the memo that feral is sin 2.0? we ain't allowed to switch
analog field
it was in SoD
static glacier
!rik
balmy condor
that's what no trickster does to a man
We all playing trickster next week
static glacier
!ricardoreverb
crisp pine
what's happening next week
static glacier
!barrelgaming
crisp pine
we going outlaw?
balmy condor
12.0.5
balmy condor
Cloud cover gaming
mint ravine
cloud gaming inc
balmy condor
Yippie
static glacier
bro LEAVE raid log in aram
we found the unicorn blood dk now dude, its a full group
primal parrot
Cloud cover gaming
this thread needs a hero!
balmy condor
Casual 15% outlaw buff btw
primal parrot
gonna be farting up a storm starting next week
balmy condor
Idk how much it is for sub
crisp pine
Casual 15% outlaw buff btw
still not enough cause our brains outscale theirs
static glacier
Casual 15% outlaw buff btw
to be fair this cloud cover shit will do wonders for sin chat quality
balmy condor
I’m playing deathstalker on alleria hopefully I can swap
static glacier
since i HIGHLY doubt we will be competitive
crisp pine
God you're making me read patch notes
I hate that shit
balmy condor
Although maybe deathstalker cheeseball p1 amp abuse
primal parrot
as long as people dont come in here talking about sudden demise i will be happy
balmy condor
The dream
static glacier
God you're making me read patch notes
I hate that shit
you can just check pins
primal parrot
i dont want sudden demise to exist anymore
balmy condor
as long as people dont come in here talking about sudden demise i will be happy
@trim cairn oh great one heed my call, you must do more mental damage
trim cairn
i dont want sudden demise to exist anymore
Why? Scared it'll get you hooked and ruin your life?
trim cairn
balmy condor
And the prophet appears in the flesh
main bobcat
is that what happens when you get afflicted by lethal poison
primal parrot
ive got a special gif saved for the occasion when whispyr actually mental bangs me
main bobcat
you become the right one
crisp pine
they gotta bring back exsanguinate man
balmy condor
ive got a special gif saved for the occasion when whispyr actually mental bangs ...
I’m just floored, we spent all of last expansion hating bleed build when it was good and now that it sucks we’re wanting it back
Actually cannot make this shit up
trim cairn
I’m just floored, we spent all of last expansion hating bleed build when it was ...
I wasnt here last expansion so that explains it
crisp pine
I’m just floored, we spent all of last expansion hating bleed build when it was ...
classic goomba fallacy
strange onyx
I am team poison build for life
primal parrot
Actually cannot make this shit up
something something blue hair something something sandbag
sweet sphinx
just tried the Sudden demise build in a +12, felt pretty nice actually
balmy condor
something something blue hair something something sandbag
Community when I make a build
primal parrot
https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HAUeFtVbwAAsTbB.gif
me when whispyr
trim cairn
just tried the Sudden demise build in a +12, felt pretty nice actually
It's goated
runic hinge
hey just wondered how i can do as much as i can with the poison without losing as i do the envom into when i the rupture and kingsbane?
crisp pine
hey just wondered how i can do as much as i can with the poison without losing a...
yea
balmy condor
Idk who this fucking queer is that keeps updating the wowhead guide but all I know is I’m gonna do whatever the opposite is
trim cairn
It's the only way a rogue can get a hit of that so-called praise that other classes get in keys
primal parrot
Idk who this fucking queer is that keeps updating the wowhead guide but all I kn...
please censor that
i dont appreciate w*whead being mentioned without censorship
crisp pine
I only read maxroll guides tbh
static glacier
I only read maxroll guides tbh
REAL
balmy condor
please censor that
i dont appreciate w*whead being mentioned without censorship
Bro that’s my job 
static glacier
noxxic
main bobcat
bleed build was sick man
primal parrot
Bro that’s my job <:SAD:718207731185745922>
shut up shut the fukc uyp fcask
strange onyx
Idk who this fucking queer is that keeps updating the wowhead guide but all I kn...
I am too European for your slurs. Live your life king and make mine easier tyvm
main bobcat
mind control your tank to get a pack on bosses
balmy condor
shut up shut the fukc uyp fcask
okay
crisp pine
balmy condor
I’ll go manage the 40 spec guides quietly in my corner
Silencing bisexuals
What else is new
strange onyx
There is an error in one of the guides btw
main bobcat
yo what website is this
rugged basalt
🗣️🔇
crisp pine
yo what website is this
maxroll bro
it's fire
balmy condor
There is an error in one of the guides btw
I’m sure
crisp pine
no misinformation