assassination

[gilded oasis]

no

[thorn thorn]

It would really just be a slightly crunchy drop of honey

[sacred oyster]

they have a channel so you just need to click em sep or use one button rotation which will prio them if missing

[thorn thorn]

Unless you have the gene that makes ants smell weird

Then your experience will likely be different

[storm forum]

Cool

[paper nacelle]

Would a cast sequence one not work?

[balmy condor]

you'd still have to cast them one by one

it would just be one by one 4x on a single button

[thorn thorn]

They should do the thing for poisons that they did for weapon ehnancements for shamans

[paper nacelle]

Ok yea thanks. That’s good enough for me.

[thorn thorn]

One button applies all of them

[storm forum]

Sry, but shamans have magic, and we don't so we must suffer

[thorn thorn]

Nah trust just mix all of the poisons together into one mega poison

Surely it works the same right

[spice surge]

I just pick a random poison out my mommas cauldron

[thorn thorn]

What if it wasnt poison

What if it was just a really thick stew

[gilded oasis]

i just dont put poisons on, too busy

[hardy rapids]

i know its tracked on cdm but I saw someone using a bar for tracking implacable strikes, anyone have anything similar?

[balmy condor]

I think the bar thing was using arcui and making a "fake" buff

[storm forum]

That's going right in maisara, the poison is left

[balmy condor]

like it's just a counter

and jank

[gilded oasis]

i tried it, didnt like

trust me, im a doctor

[storm forum]

It is jank, but I like it, and it's less broken every patch

[gilded oasis]

I just count to 2 twice and then one

[balmy condor]

let her cook

[frosty cedar]

1 day blinding stew

[thorn thorn]

I love stew

[spice spire]

Love the maisara steww

[strange onyx]

You can get the recipe if you go there in the open world

[hardy rapids]

ah ok ok

[gilded oasis]

yeah im about to cook dinner

[balmy condor]

I'm about to cook dinner too

[gilded oasis]

what you makin

[balmy condor]

white monster, 2 double kamikazes, a midori sour, and a basket of bowling alley mozzarella sticks

[gilded oasis]

moz sticks are pretty good and the ones at my bowling alley are always perfectly cooked

approved

[spice spire]

[strange onyx]

Stay healthy, bucko

[balmy condor]

I'm trying my best not to, but I still wake up every morning king

[strange onyx]

Yo wtf all mericanos go bowling?

[gilded oasis]

its fun

[balmy condor]

as a fun way to get drunk, yes

as a serious sport, no

[strange onyx]

Don’t worry if you don’t wake up. Know that I will take good care of this place

[gilded oasis]

i love eating chicken fingies then putting my greasy fingies into the ball holes

[strange onyx]

Ewww

Ew

[gilded oasis]

then putting my fingies back in my mouth

[strange onyx]

Ewww

[balmy condor]

thats why you eat with your left hand dumbass

[gilded oasis]

i bowl with both hands

BOZO

[crisp pine]

very small hands

[balmy condor]

you put both hands into the holes?

how does that work

[gilded oasis]

yes

one finger from each hand and one open hole if anyone wants to help me bowl

[thorn thorn]

Bro what

[wooden jasper]

@balmy condor Habibi,

Why use Vendetta Kingsbane THEN CT?
Why not start with CT then doing Vendetta Kingsbane?

[balmy condor]

[zinc frost]

Is this the secret sauce to getting smooched on your way out?

[strange onyx]

Someone please come in here and ask some rogue questions

[balmy condor]

too slow

[deft vault]

i feel like i might be dumb af but why isnt this macro working?
#showtooltip Deathmark
/use 13
/cast deathmark
/cast Blood Fury(racial)

trinket/dm work but the racial doesntè

[wooden jasper]

[balmy condor]

what trinket do you have

[strange onyx]

Puzzle box

[balmy condor]

also why do you have (racial) like that

[gilded oasis]

i meant i bowl with my right hand and when i get weak and tired I go left handed

[strange onyx]

Putting 5 dollar on puzzle box

[deft vault]

house of cards. havent played since last xpac

[balmy condor]

should work fine then idk

[spice spire]

Time to get swole queen

[balmy condor]

[gilded oasis]

u g h

ok actually cooking now

[spice spire]

Glhf

[deft vault]

mmm just realized house of card doesnt even get used idk

[polar bloom]

i haven't used ElvUI in a while. I used to have a profile to block other players' bleeds and also my poisons but since Blizz did all those changes i don't know how to anymore. Is there a new way? so that i only see garrote and rupture, for instance

[wooden jasper]

Whispyr, idk if im being SIM baited but,

Is 250 Plume better than Solar Flare 266 for SIN?

Also, I have Guidon 289, But is PuzzleBox 266 Better?

[balmy condor]

only seeing garrote and rupture is base UI, can't track poisons anymore

[strange onyx]

Trust your sim

[polar bloom]

ah might use base ui then (for nameplates) . ElvUI tracks poisons and it's too much info on the screen tbh

[balmy condor]

THEY HAVENT FIXED THAT YET?

jesus fuck

[strange onyx]

Base ui is bis

[polar bloom]

there's the filter option but it's different

byea elv is... so much

[strange onyx]

Elvui is so garbanzo I take personal offense

[polar bloom]

yea but i've been using it for like 9 years

i'm too conditioned

[strange onyx]

Come SkoopUI

We all chillin’ up here

[balmy condor]

why would I know these things

[spice surge]

Theres no filtering available. Either you use the blizzard inbuilt filter to remove unnecessary bloat OR you show literally everything

No inbetween available

[strange onyx]

You co-wrote declarations of Sims

[balmy condor]

bro thinks I'm like neo or some shit

plugged into the matrix

[strange onyx]

You are bozo

[wooden jasper]

? Thought u were a computer

[balmy condor]

@balmy condor calculate my next 120 myth crests to 4 decimal points

[strange onyx]

Go enjoy your bowling simulation

[wooden jasper]

Computer turn Whispyr into a Twink

[strange onyx]

Then it is back to the sim mines

[wooden jasper]

? Promp already effective,

[strange onyx]

Frox, he needs a break. I can help you instead

What you need?

[balmy condor]

he needs to sim himself

[wooden jasper]

Oh I was just messing a bit with Whispr

Ill sim myself

[strange onyx]

Good on ya

Another happy customer

[wooden jasper]

Give me ur prenium account, dont got 3$ on me

for faster sim

[strange onyx]

Sure

[wooden jasper]

JKJK

DONT

[strange onyx]

Check DMs, we get it for free

[frosty cedar]

[wooden jasper]

@strange onyx ????

He sent me this on dms

[balmy condor]

did you thank him?

[wooden jasper]

Yes

[polar bloom]

thanks! now to reduce those big ass numbers somehow lmao
can't even see what the debuffs are

[balmy condor]

I mean frankly

does it matter

[wooden jasper]

Plater

[balmy condor]

you're just pressing CT anyway

[wooden jasper]

Is goated for that

[balmy condor]

fuck plater

[polar bloom]

nah at that point is just comfort tbh

[sharp viper]

Hi, im plater

[frosty briar]

[wooden jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/help-stuck-jar-vypustite-gif-27653134

[thorn thorn]

Release me at once woman

[wooden jasper]

CTRL V fixes it too

Should I put my Mutilate on my Button 1 or Button 2 Whyspr

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-spongebob-spongebob-meme-patrick-meme-dumb-patrick-gif-9974665538168463324

[thorn thorn]

wait you arent

[balmy condor]

sass me again and your head is my next bowling ball bud

[high dust]

guys i need help, what build is this

does it have sudden demise bug too?

[wooden jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/i-could've-sworn-there-was-a-gif-of-this-whatever-squid-game-squid-game-edit-squid-game-edit-meme-i'm-so-scared-gif-12360771953743496060

[wooden jasper]

You suck ass at Tetris wtf

[high dust]

...Tbf?

I cant lie...I DO suck at tetris.

[wooden jasper]

LMFAO

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/arcade-space-invaders-gif-6898553440729543646

[balmy condor]

Assassination
Asesinato ✅

[thorn thorn]

Too light for that to work

Aint nothing inside to make it heavy

[wooden jasper]

COMPETITIVO ?

[high dust]

Tbf, rogue's specs on spanish sound better.

Outlaw?
Forajido.

[balmy condor]

Between a human skull and a bowling pin, which do you think is heavier

[wooden jasper]

Guys im going Forajido

[viscid spear]

Subtlety?
Silencio.

[wooden jasper]

A bowling pin insides Rox skully head

[viscid spear]

(probably)

[high dust]

Sutileza, almost.

THO...sudden demise? thats nothing. FALLECIMIENTO SÚBITO.

[balmy condor]

Pero un outlaw tambien es delictivo o no?

[viscid spear]

I'm American, you can't expect me to know Es pan yowl

[high dust]

eh...kinda, yeah.

this bugged? can u guys check?

[wooden jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-yuorki-egyptian-speed-funny-gif-6210991462615795229

[strange onyx]

@balmy condor tell your doofs to get better

[viscid spear]

Bro changed the font to Wingdings

[thorn thorn]

If its mine, my money is in a bowling pin

[balmy condor]

Si no practico mi espanol aqui, mi latina novia me va a asesinar

[high dust]

novia latina*

[wooden jasper]

[balmy condor]

Por favor tienes que entender

[strange onyx]

Ty for the power spike, stay misinformed

[bitter solar]

can you not, my fucking furniture is floating

[thorn thorn]

Bro is flexing that he can speak other languages

[balmy condor]

Estoy muerto 💀

[high dust]

El amor por las latinas no entiende de idiomas.

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/gather-power-gather-power-get-power-goku-gif-16479222

[strange onyx]

Snakk norsk, dumme «torsk»

[wooden jasper]

I think the password is wrong? Did u change it

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[balmy condor]

Bro speaking Wingdings get your arrows out of here before I eagle eagle splayed hand chestnut man skiing (skin tone 3) your ass

[coral ibex]

skin tone 3???

[wooden jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/gaster-undertale-deltarune-the-man-that-speaks-in-hands-gangster-gif-274980784181920855

[coral ibex]

boy you better shape up before i mpreg react you

[thorn thorn]

Whatever this is has manifested a demon in my office

[wooden jasper]

WA

Praying thats a command

!mpreg

nope

[wooden jasper]

PURGE HIM

[thorn thorn]

with what

I have a pen and some papers

[balmy condor]

Nice opinion, too bad I’m

[wooden jasper]

WHISPYR am I bad at rogue cause my hair is half blue and not full blue likes urs

[balmy condor]

My power comes from my blue pubes, have you tried that

[thorn thorn]

Soon to be piss colored

Tune in during tlt

[spice surge]

Bro got blue balled so many times his pubes turned blue too

Unfortunato

[wooden jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-darren-watkins-speed-meme-speed-pray-gif-17944518743646793301

[balmy condor]

I didn’t know you also spoke Spanish

[spice surge]

Thats Portuguese

[elder agate]

whats the best way to sim as assa

[coral ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/137430749946052608/1482840477035270286/v200.00.03.062-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[elder agate]

i mean the presets before the sim, like crit pot, flask , etc

[balmy condor]

A whole port full of geese? 💀

[balmy condor]

Simc default

[thorn thorn]

no no its a port of grease

[elder agate]

he uses the crit flask etc?

[balmy condor]

Yes the defaults are the recommended consumables

It’s set up that way so you don’t have to

[shy creek]

Havent played assa all season, is shiv on 6 cp still an optimization or can i just remov this ability from bars

[balmy condor]

If you’re playing deathstalker in 1-3 target situations, yep

[fallow canopy]

Desafortunado my rey

[balmy condor]

But you need shiv to soothe anyway

So

[shy creek]

You think I do anything other than hit the boss kekw

[lime edge]

i love pugging

[thorn thorn]

[wooden jasper]

My Guild leader thinking im a good rogue cause I started interacting a lot in the Rogue Discord, not knowing im just doing anything but learning shit

[lime edge]

bm hunter overall dps

holyy

[balmy condor]

Dawg?

[coral ibex]

holy moly

[fallow canopy]

What the helly

[coral ibex]

[wooden jasper]

WAIT

WAIT

[elder agate]

thats funny lol

[wooden jasper]

WAIT

WAIT

HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHA

[balmy condor]

I don’t think I can

[elder agate]

who saves, saves

[wooden jasper]

sent in DMS

I BEG

I DIDNT SAVE

[elder agate]

ok np

[coral ibex]

lmao

[fallow canopy]

[thorn thorn]

Look at this 11 that was bricked

[lime edge]

dude

[thorn thorn]

I tried so hard to carry but unfortunately I am terrible

[fallow canopy]

You know what else was bricked

[lime edge]

my bm hunter dps was afk

[coral ibex]

me

[lime edge]

and my tank did some weird route

for pit

[fallow canopy]

That fucking gif jesus

[lime edge]

the pulls were horrible

[wooden jasper]

[lime edge]

[thorn thorn]

wtf did I miss

I was gone for 5 seconds

[balmy condor]

I’ll dm you

[fallow canopy]

Bud sent a windwill

[thorn thorn]

Ok so

Whoever made that

I hope you have a very bad day

[high dust]

week starting good, first dungeon its windrunner pants. leggo.

[balmy condor]

Which windrunner’s pants

[high dust]

crit haste

[balmy condor]

Sorry

[high dust]

OH

oh.

[balmy condor]

Whose* Windrunner pants

[high dust]

sylvan

coughcough

[lime edge]

yo btw, what do we do against this affix

is it just perma aids for healer or what

[thorn thorn]

Nothing

[lime edge]

[wooden jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/space-astronaut-toes-flag-emoji-gif-20781814

[thorn thorn]

Not as a rogue

[high dust]

sylvanas/alleria >>>>>>>>>> the other one, the one that's married to a dead mage.

[balmy condor]

You run a 12

[fallow canopy]

Do the same we do for all other affixes

[lime edge]

real

[fallow canopy]

[thorn thorn]

You can drink crimson vial I guess but as a rogue you run 12s or higher

[high dust]

this affix is healer affix, right?

[lime edge]

well some classes can cleanse it

[thorn thorn]

healer affix/anyone with a dispell affix

[fallow canopy]

A lot of classes can self clean it

[thorn thorn]

But its really an affix for people who arent doing 12s perma

[lime edge]

it has an ms debuff so slow cleanse should work

[high dust]

why 12s, im lost

[balmy condor]

It does

That’s new

[balmy condor]

12’s don’t have affixes

[fallow canopy]

12s = no feet lady funny business

[thorn thorn]

Does it

[high dust]

oh, true

forgot about that :B

[coral ibex]

yes

[thorn thorn]

It shouldnt have any slow effects

[coral ibex]

it does

[shy creek]

are we guarenteed lucky coin in opener

[lime edge]

it has 10% ms slow i think

[shy creek]

this season

[thorn thorn]

[lime edge]

or 20%

[high dust]

10%

[balmy condor]

They added the slow effect so slow cleanses can get rid of it

[lime edge]

didnt sprint used to have slow cleanse

what happened to that

[thorn thorn]

Midnight pruning prolly

[shy creek]

Nvm I just learned lucky coin got reworked

[balmy condor]

Wait until you read the rest of the talents

It’s quite good

[lime edge]

wish deathstalker was better

[thorn thorn]

[balmy condor]

No you do not

[lime edge]

i dont like afk hero trees

smh

[thorn thorn]

[high dust]

i liked the fantasy of deathstalker more

but fuck that shit

[thorn thorn]

Chat

Who is gonna tell him

[balmy condor]

You don’t like afk hero trees so you would prefer to press shiv rotationally and smash your cock with a meat tenderizer if you ever need to change targets?

I mean no kink shaming

But god damn you a fucking freak

[high dust]

Yes kink shaming

[lime edge]

if it was good hell yea

[thorn thorn]

Bro wants cbt

Thats crazy

One hell of a self report but honestly more power to you

[lime edge]

🪑

[high dust]

playing deathstalker be like

https://tenor.com/view/kill-the-rot-goofy-goober-silly-schizophrenia-gif-12414327510351470727

[wooden jasper]

whats the main difference?

[balmy condor]

#assassination message

[wooden jasper]

If my stats are

Mastery - Crit - Haste (12%) - Vers

Is DeathStalker better for me?

[wooden jasper]

I HAVE TO READ AGAIN??

[lime edge]

arent the stats the same for both

[high dust]

reading is hard.

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[thorn thorn]

statmaxing in 2026

[balmy condor]

Well

In the wise words of someone earlier today

“Dual gear set”

[thorn thorn]

[wooden jasper]

Its just im built for SUB

[high dust]

[wooden jasper]

but Sub in Dragons and Vanguards in mythic is questionable

[high dust]

(its just pants and belt what changes dont worry.)

[balmy condor]

Wdym sub in dragons is questionable

You do a gorillion dps to the void orbs

And pretend like you’re useful

[wooden jasper]

I WAS

GONNA SAY THAT

FAKE DAMAGE

[balmy condor]

But you have a bigger bar

[wooden jasper]

Damagae to boss

[balmy condor]

Bigger bar better person

[earnest remnant]

Ayo das me

Tbf those orbs are more dangerous than the dragons

[wooden jasper]

Almost posted the Discord Gif from the guy waving

[wooden jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[earnest remnant]

Im the most knowing knower there is

[wooden jasper]

The all knowing machine

Which boss is rogue unplayable on I forgot

[earnest remnant]

None

[wooden jasper]

Oh really, i thought there was one we should be sit

for raid

nvm

[earnest remnant]

Arguably vanguard

[severe meadow]

Paladins I think feels like ass water, but other than that

[wooden jasper]

Oh yeah true

cause classes with aoe

[balmy condor]

@thorn thorn pick one

[high dust]

blue.

[wooden jasper]

Why does bro have 5 bowling ball in his house

[thorn thorn]

bottom right most

[earnest remnant]

But the boss is not a dps boss its a live boss

[thorn thorn]

I like green

[severe meadow]

He doesn't know Whispyr lore..

[thorn thorn]

The real question is why dont you have 5

[wooden jasper]

True

[wooden jasper]

Oh yeah let me just, idk do bowling in my house?!?!??!?!

[balmy condor]

Lovely that’s the “Whispyr picks” ball because that one is my dads

[wooden jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-gif-4268195663049291933

[thorn thorn]

yippeeeee

[severe meadow]

Gang..

We're pogging

[wooden jasper]

Sending 5 hitman to ur house

[thorn thorn]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO

Massive

[spice surge]

Massive poggulations

[severe meadow]

I can take 6 guys on

[high dust]

in a fight, right?

[thorn thorn]

I bet you can

[severe meadow]

Yeah.. a fight

[thorn thorn]

[balmy condor]

….sev…

[high dust]

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-ifitworks-forthebetter-right-anakin-gif-24444626

[wooden jasper]

Jay said he loves 5guys at 2am

[severe meadow]

A fight with our tongues maybe

[severe meadow]

[wooden jasper]

I dont see 2am?

[high dust]

https://tenor.com/view/67-67-school-6-7-8-9-6-7-meme-gif-9283842523222664778

[wooden jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-my-mom-is-kinda-homeless-please-speed-i-need-this-tired-blow-gif-15401023925154467112

[high dust]

https://tenor.com/view/turles-goku-dragon-ball-dbz-tullece-gif-9485394904484613513

must been the wind.

[wooden jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-i-see-you-gif-10329276024413632937

[balmy condor]

@thorn thorn I pick this one, thoughts

[wooden jasper]

BRO WHY IS THERE 2 HOLES IN UR BALL>?

OH HELLLL NAH

[balmy condor]

For my 2 fingers

[high dust]

...why are they pink

[wooden jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-gif-4268195663049291933

[balmy condor]

Because I’m queer

Any more questions

[wooden jasper]

and a twink

[high dust]

and you like fingering blue balls?

[thorn thorn]

Blue is good too

[wooden jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/goonicide-reverse-goonicide-reverse-reverse-goonicide-goon-gif-1553856178782364507

[thorn thorn]

Is that rubber padding on the holes

[high dust]

u can be queer but that pink with that shade is ugly. i said it.

[balmy condor]

They’re rubber inserts yes

[thorn thorn]

genius

[thorn thorn]

You wouldnt understand

[balmy condor]

Idk bout genius

It’s pretty standard

[thorn thorn]

The incident I told you about when I went bowling was because the ball didnt have rubber inserts

Well maybe not exclusively because

There were other factors

[balmy condor]

Yeah I mean house balls don’t have inserts obviously

[thorn thorn]

But im choosing to blame the inserts

And not that my fingers are huge

[olive forge]

anyone have a macro to use Health Stone, Silvermoon health pot in priority?

So 1 button health macro

[high dust]

I didnt even know inserts were a thing, tbh. Too much time without going bowling.

[balmy condor]

Yeh when you get a ball fit to your hand

It’s drilled with the inserts in mind

[elder agate]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qJKLjnCD8MpnqYs3fv92Jm

i think its okiokiii

[thorn thorn]

I just like watching the insanely cursed animations they play

[balmy condor]

Those are turned off in league

[high dust]

https://tenor.com/view/bowling-bowler-gif-25363911

[crystal vault]

is implacable tracking bugged? like when it drops it doesnt show again? (specced first time sin in midnight )

[fallow canopy]

its bugged on the cdm yes

[balmy condor]

!implac

Fuck

What did I call it

[fallow canopy]

when the energy regen instance is going the stacking buff does not show

[balmy condor]

!implacable

I called it something

Idk

[fallow canopy]

!moggedbymoroes

[balmy condor]

!bug

?

Is moroes dead

!update

Oh

[crystal vault]

is tracking envenom a thing or yolo

[balmy condor]

Moroes died

[fallow canopy]

you can count to 5

[balmy condor]

Should track envenom for the apex alone

So you know when it drops

But otherwise no

[fallow canopy]

there's an arcui workaround technically but other than that

[noble ridge]

Thats my favorite color of blue

[crystal vault]

i cant count to 5 dodging 500 hammer and shields

[thorn thorn]

!buffs

moroes nooooo

[fallow canopy]

real

[noble ridge]

!rik

[high dust]

!Sudden Demise

Damn that clanker IS ded

[wooden jasper]

Is wow planning and removing sin completely since no one plays it othet than blue haired or spanish people?

[high dust]

or spanish people.

Atleast Im mentioned I guess...

[noble ridge]

but I don't have blue hair and I failed high school spanish

[high dust]

I can be both

[wooden jasper]

[thorn thorn]

or spanish people

[gilded oasis]

lame

[sacred forge]

where should we check talents and stuff since discord faq seems outdated

[gilded oasis]

wowhead

[pearl steppe]

does anyone know why my combo points under my energy on the left hand side disappeared?

[fleet pagoda]

my combo point bar has been getting abducted whenever i get grabbed or in a uh... "vehicle" kinda. like the bubbles in voidspire trash and gargoyles in PoS

that's all i got for ya idk

[obsidian oracle]

/reload

[balmy condor]

NICE

[wooden jasper]

FUUUUUU

WERE AT DRAGONS

I HAVE TO PLAY SIN

Aldoe i got 99 on sub

for saladaar mythic

[balmy condor]

W orb pad

[wooden jasper]

TRUUE

I got 45 on boss damage doe

NOT TOO BAD

[balmy condor]

Play sub on dragons and orb pad again

[wooden jasper]

actually

TRUUUUUUUUUUE

[magic thorn]

Hey @balmy condor , can you explain to me why in the trinket section of the wowhead guide you dont mention the "Crucible of Erratic Energies" ? This trinket sims better for me in Dungeon Slice then other Hero Dungeon Trinkets? Or is it just sim bait ?

[spice surge]

The trinket is not simbait, its good

[magic thorn]

Nvm im dumb. It is in the Guide under Delves and in green

I just need to look better. Sorry for asking

[ember relic]

We've all done it

[buoyant herald]

Also important to remember that trinkets locked to a lower track eg champ are often left out because they’re (usually) beaten by most mythic trinket by virtue of ilvl alone

Crucible is a bit of an anomaly there though

[elder agate]

!fuu

!spread

[thorn thorn]

Is moroes still dead

!buffs

[balmy condor]

Yeah :(

[thorn thorn]

moroes is kill : (

[elder agate]

!fuu

[pine flare]

all this pad damage on crown is making me feel bad

ST build is still correct?

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[spring moat]

2500 m+ and i still get auto declined.. kek

[balmy condor]

To be fair, dps at 3000-3150 is not a rarity

[spring moat]

im sure theres a bajillion applying in 0.3 sec

[balmy condor]

We listed a couple keys as a guild on Tuesday and it was pretty common

[ember relic]

It's cause theres a billion applying lol

[fallow canopy]

where were u wen moros was kil

[balmy condor]

Where was Moroes when I kill you

[haughty pewter]

Seems to be some congestion at 3100-3200, thhe 13/14 area is kinda crowded and difficult to naviagate through

[coral ibex]

i mean im 278ilvl and 3160 io and im getting declined to keys ive timed 1-2 levels higher

its cooked

[woven frost]

Dumb rogue question. Do I need to keep my embellished dagger in main hand if I have a higher myth level one?

[thorn thorn]

Just people making the keys being dumbo is really it

[coral ibex]

no

[woven frost]

NOICE

[severe meadow]

@solar wyvern GRATS HOMIE (idk if you were in on kill)

[solar wyvern]

nope haha

rogue bench !

[severe meadow]

rough man

[solar wyvern]

thats oki

boss sucks as melee anyway

and we needed grips and devo

so melee slot too congested

bird time tho!

lockin

[severe meadow]

lockin

[balmy condor]

3 phase bird

Sounds like hell

[spice surge]

Are people doing 3 phases

[balmy condor]

They’re doing 2, and then evoker got nerfed

With the ebon might shit

So now I don’t see how 2 is possible

It’s either 3 or your roster is like 15 ele shamans and a mage

[thorn thorn]

The ebon might shit that was reported for the entirety of the alpha and beta testing phase and never once addressed

[solar wyvern]

the comp of a lifetime

[balmy condor]

Oh you’re fucked gg

[severe meadow]

double rogue holy

[thorn thorn]

HOLY

[brazen falcon]

2 rogues....gg...

[thorn thorn]

that is so based

[gilded oasis]

need more rogues

[sudden brook]

So like

No because it's kinda impossible

But 2 phase is also impossible

So they said they fixed the evoker thing

Didn't

And then hotfixed the original change back

So the boss I'm pretty sure is unkillable atm

[thorn thorn]

They "fixed" it originally by making the 100yd range

And there was extensive feedback on the alpha and beta about it not being enough and it all went ignored

[sudden brook]

More specifically is the boss is unkillable atm 90% sure

[thorn thorn]

Seems likely

Does it just auto kill at 3 phases?

[hallow glade]

they nerfed the wrong thing

[sudden brook]

Well no they just forgot to also nerf the boss

[nova flax]

guy u said it would be an outlaw tier

what happeend

[thorn thorn]

Sounds like some shit zac would say

[balmy condor]

It is an outlaw tier, but the spec is so difficult no one can play it effectively

No pilot on earth for this plane

[wooden jasper]

WE MADE IT

ME VS CHINA

[wicked scaffold]

seems like China number 1 still

[wooden jasper]

@balmy condor I cant play assa i think i have cancer

im unsure what to do

i need to see u like, do a full 5m rotation on someone

[balmy condor]

Nephew what the fuck is this

[wooden jasper]

DPS Compare, trying to compare my dps with people that have a pull that looks like mine

10ilvl difference 20sec pull difference

[balmy condor]

In terms of kill times similar and similar ilvl of kills that happened recently on a single spec

And you’re still second

[wooden jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explode-cat-explode-mike-interpol-gif-13503338605162614186

[balmy condor]

Just keep cutting the numbers

[wooden jasper]

I mean would it be wrong to compare myself with smoeone that kills the boss 30s earlier?

Cause of a OP guild?

Or someone that kills the boss at the last intermission, where the boss has the bonus damage taken debuff?

So he can farm?

[severe meadow]

you take the L and have a lower parse

[wooden jasper]

[balmy condor]

Slow kill time this tier probably means you get to pad harder too

It’s balances

[severe meadow]

ye

[wooden jasper]

Is the only option to end my life

How does one get a good parse

[balmy condor]

Doing more damage

[wooden jasper]

Thats the full rank parse

These 3 people had the boss, bonus damage thingy

And for the Chinese guy on top was PI and hard padding

[balmy condor]

What boss bonus damage thingy

[wooden jasper]

Saladar

Saladbar

[balmy condor]

Oh that shit don’t matter

[wooden jasper]

Really?

[severe meadow]

shit amp

[balmy condor]

It’s like 25%

[severe meadow]

25%

[balmy condor]

Who cares

You get infinity more damage just hitting orbs

[wooden jasper]

Tru

Ok next time amma pad more

got it

THANK U

Amma play worse to parse more

[balmy condor]

Welcome to subtlety

[sudden brook]

Outlaw is honestly good on a lot of the fights (for a rogue spec)

Its just, rogue is unplayable

Like the first 4 bosses are legit outlaw fights

Trust

[balmy condor]

[fluid oak]

there is a number we want for avoidance and leech?

[balmy condor]

God I wish

Imagine being like “aw man I would take this leech helm, but I would just have too much leech!”

[fluid oak]

so as much as possible?

or not

[balmy condor]

I mean they’re tertiaries, they’re nice to have, and you take what you get or don’t get

[severe meadow]

Sure

[balmy condor]

You don’t really get to pick

[severe meadow]

Leech isn’t going to make or break you, it’s just random fun stats

[fluid oak]

because i see most ppl run with 150 and 50ish leech

150 avo*

[balmy condor]

Probably enchants

[fluid oak]

leech works on bleeds?

[balmy condor]

Leech works on all damage, yes

[fluid oak]

ok ty

[cunning needle]

not emotional damage

[brave gyro]

All of a sudden, this week outlaw Sims 4-6k higher on dungeon slice than both sub or Assa for me (with champ track main hand)

Is this for everyone?

[grim jay]

How can you take what you dont get

By force?

[brave gyro]

And I have myth Guidon and myth puzzlebox

[grim jay]

Outlaw usually always sims higher in dslice

If its better or not

Dslice numbers are by no means representative of any performance

Even less so than St sims

[brave gyro]

I see I see

Just funny how literally 180 my whole character

Sub was on top

[primal parrot]

assa is just the best spec for rogue
this is by no means based on fact or any sort of data

[zinc frost]

Just vibes, I respect that

[dire flume]

silence data driven player, a feelycraft player is talking

[kindred breach]

It's that time of the year boys

we switch to sin finally

[modern viper]

!log

[verbal sable]

is that time of year again?

damn

[wild birch]

What addon fixes Implacable tracking?

[brave gyro]

I am a class player, not a spec player, so I am okay as long as we have at least one spec performing really well

(i am not doing okay this tier)

[grim jay]

None

[dire flume]

subs good atm tho wdym

[kindred breach]

yeah but sin is a goated spec

[grim jay]

Playing in an average guild or with pugs, you can certainly top as rogue still

[kindred breach]

my prefed spec personally

[wild birch]

Zerocool has it working

[grim jay]

And in m+ sin can absolutely top

[jolly stirrup]

What are you looking for?

[dire flume]

yeah but topping as a sub is very weird, no?

leave that to the doms

[grim jay]

Gotta be flexible

Sub by heart, top due to circumstances

[dire flume]

my role isnt updating 😡

[brave gyro]

only in 15 or higher tho

stuff dies too fast otherwise

[modern viper]

Wanted to post log so someone would tell me how to improve

[kindred breach]

Sudden demise will carry though in lower keys or am i mistaken?

[brave gyro]

I wouldn't know, haven't played with it this tier

[grim jay]

Works fine earlier arguably around 11s or 12s, as long as not everyone is overgeared of something. Just gotta invite bad dps

[dire flume]

sudden demise is doing like 10% of my overall in 10-12s but feels kinda fake, no?

[kindred breach]

yeah it wont do that in 15-16s for sure

[dire flume]

even in the 10-12s

prio targets and bosses feel like they take so long

[kindred breach]

stuff too weak in 10-12 so execute is maximized

[primal parrot]

sudden demise is fake damage

the mob is about to die anyways

[grim jay]

Idk how damage can be fake

[dire flume]

ye

funny on the meters though

[grim jay]

If it has 200hp and it deals 200 dmg, it has a real value

[kindred breach]

yeah its not noticeable but you actually kill stuff quicker

which is great

[grim jay]

Its as fake or as real as every single instance that wouldve killed it

[dire flume]

i think if you've just refreshed your bleeds it can proc for like 300k sometimes

but refreshing all your bleeds as the mob is about to die is kinda counter productive

[primal parrot]

[dire flume]

efficient global ig though

[grim jay]

Well thats inherently bad gameplay

Not the talents fault

[dire flume]

1 rupture and 1 garrote = 300k damage :yep:

they should give us valeeras 1 shot ability and make us truly assassinate someone

thoughts?

call it VERY sudden demise or something

[analog hedge]

cough cough shadow technique

[jolly stirrup]

You can post it and ask for help, some of the lovely people here are always happy to help

[modern viper]

If anyone could point out what is wrong i will be really thankful.
From what i heard on ST i should never go 0 energy but it happens to me often dunno why …
Log :

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1r8hHMKkVnYDdJyg?fight=21&type=damage-done&source=6

much love 🫡

[jolly stirrup]

For the energy

!design

Fak

Who took that command from us

Maybe

!energy

[dire flume]

:catpointingandlaughing:

[balmy condor]

hm

!stats

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Stats
You will always get more accurate results using Raidbots Top Gear, as stat values will flucuate depending on gear and situation.

Agility (Item level) > Crit > Haste > Mastery >>>> Vers
The ratio between secondaries ends up being roughly 40/33/26/1

[balmy condor]

yeh

I got rid of those

[dire flume]

whispyr why is my role not updating

[balmy condor]

which role

[dire flume]

i removed my outlaw emote and added an assassination one

and im stuck as an outlaw

[analog field]

where is loa when you need him

!sudden

[dire flume]

does it update every x amount of time or smth

[balmy condor]

what would you need him for

no I just fixed it manually

[dire flume]

ty, could you remove my killing spree as well please

[analog field]

to type ! energy and get something 😂

[grim jay]

@balmy condor im deeply shocked and disappointed

[dire flume]

ty ty

[analog field]

or ! design

we can train him to answer all these commands

[jolly stirrup]

I am at phone so checking logs is a pain in the ass, but one thing I see is in your opener you are missing a 5cp envenom before the CDs

[dire flume]

should probably get this updated

[balmy condor]

why

yeah the FAQ is roughly 15 sim updates old

[dire flume]

[modern viper]

U mean i go for 6-7cp envenoms?

[dire flume]

is wowhead up to date

[balmy condor]

yes

[grim jay]

Including the ratio is a step in the direction of the dark statweight cult!

[balmy condor]

look at all these fun things

this was like

the last 6 weeks

[jolly stirrup]

No 5 or more

[balmy condor]

[dire flume]

"deathmark just not giving bonus damage"

mmhm

[balmy condor]

yeah

it's been fun

[dire flume]

caustic spatter not proccing from envenom is devious

that is like most of the aoe

[balmy condor]

it's not

but it is a large portion yes

[dire flume]

should garrote always be my highest damage or am i playing very wrong

[balmy condor]

in keys?

[dire flume]

ya

[balmy condor]

yeah that's fine

in some giga aoe shit like algethar I suppose caustic could win

[jolly stirrup]

You say this like I have power

[dire flume]

i havnt done an aa on assa yet

[balmy condor]

but like garrote/envenom/caustic are up there

then rupture

[dire flume]

my keys just roll the same 3 dungeons perma

skyreach > magisters terrace > pit > skyreach

[humble verge]

just pug lil buh

[dire flume]

solo dps pugging

[balmy condor]

this is pretty reasonable

[dire flume]

i play with a group ive just not been playing assa very long

[balmy condor]

for something like skyreach

[dire flume]

ty

i have a 12 skyreach in bags so i will report back after work o7

[balmy condor]

obviously if stuff is off by a couple % then whatever

but something along those lines

[grim jay]

Thats 4 fam

[dire flume]

rogue players really cant count huh

thats 3 dungeons with 1 repeat

[grim jay]

Huehue

Im just trolling

Wow already changed me again

[dire flume]

Too much time in spec discords so I can no longer tell when someones joking or just genuinely stupid

[wild mesa]

Hi , when i sim how many boss and how much time for m+

[humble verge]

yea, ive done that on all my 4 rogues bud

[grim jay]

We all went through that

Whispyr had some breakdowns over exactly that

[dire flume]

Was it remotely enjoyable though

[grim jay]

Dungeonslice

No changes

[dire flume]

My rogue is behind the curve so I'd rather not spend an hour in lfg to deplete at first pack like I did back in dragonflight when I was pushing alone

[dire flume]

I hope to see one soon

[grim jay]

Nah, give our man a break

(without a down)

[jolly stirrup]

Honestly? Assa feels really nice to play, even in Pug

[dire flume]

yeah gameplay is nice but

[jolly stirrup]

Since you dont necessarily need stealth

[dire flume]

last key i pugged i had an unholy 270 ilvl competing with the 260 veng dh

so

id rather just wait and play with friends with whatever keys we have

that key also had a ranged hpal who did 900dps the entire key which i will never understand because why play paladin if you dont want to hit things

[grim jay]

I mean

Healer dps is really whatever

And its great that it is that way

They are healers

[dire flume]

it is, i dont care about the damage or the healing profile, i just cannot understand picking hpal to stand at range and not bonk something with your hammer

surely just play priest at that point?

[high dust]

Whats paladin if not a priest with armor tbh

[balmy condor]

FAQ is updated, sims are updated, wowhead is updated, updates are updated

hiya, me again with more headaches

There's been many more sim fixes over the last bit, including CT now applying internal bleeding in sims, some energy changes, and the reversal of the improved garrote snapshotting bug!

If you see something wrong please let me know

[dire flume]

aawww ty whispyr

i didnt mean to put you to work

[balmy condor]

Well I had to double check some internal bleeding stuff

[sharp viper]

sounds like it gave you an aneurysm very on point for internal bleeding

[crisp pine]

Does CT also spread Strength of Halazzi btw?

just out of curiosity

[grim jay]

Spotted something wrong:
|| I dont see you next to me if I look to my right. ||

[dire flume]

😳

[grim jay]

Whats that even

Probably doesnt tho

[crisp pine]

Fuck ass weapon enchant that applies a bleed sometimes

[grim jay]

Ah alright

Iirc those skills usually work with a whitelist

So it shouldnt

[crisp pine]

yea probably, would be really funny if it did tho

[balmy condor]

No, garrote and rupture only

[balmy condor]

All the sim shit this expac has been giga cringe

[dire flume]

does anyone else do assa sim stuff or is it just you

[crisp pine]

Rogue keeps losing...

[thin night]

Does anyone know if assa with the buff is basically mandatory to play in raids atm ?

cause ive seen some crazy dmg from assa rogues

[high dust]

That's wishing hard

[balmy condor]

It’s not mandatory

You play sub if you wanna blast adds, you play assa for boss damage

(This has been true since the start of the expac but people are only now waking up to that reality for some fucking reason)

[balmy condor]

Just me

Well

Depends what “sim stuff” means

[high dust]

Playing Sims 4

[balmy condor]

I don’t implement spells or interactions

[dire flume]

woof

[balmy condor]

Like someone else codes in what a rupture is

[timber meadow]

Can anyone Tell me when to recast rupture and Garrote? Is it at ~12 secs (if Target does not die) Sorry if already answered

[thin night]

Yea basically all the fights have been adds not really any st fights

[balmy condor]

I tell the sim how to use rupture

[balmy condor]

!pd

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[balmy condor]

Any time in this window

[dire flume]

thats kinda like hunter, zingus does the coding afaik and then like doolb/thyminde do the apl and such, but usually specs have 2-3 people doing it

poor whispyr and poor assa

[balmy condor]

Yeah but a lot of the add damage is also entirely unnecessary

[timber meadow]

Thanks

[balmy condor]

Sub has eleem and some side help sometimes, I do assa and sometimes rope eleem into it if it’s giga fucky, outlaw has solo mostly but Zac does stuff I think

But for the rogue specs it’s like 1-1.5 man jobs

[dire flume]

damn

can never take a holiday

[balmy condor]

Well usually I can once a season comes out

But midnight has been endless bugs and issues with sim implementations and nonsense from blizzard

[scarlet orbit]

What is nonsense from blizzard in this context?

[balmy condor]

Like for example they changed the “apply debuff” flag of deathmark to “apply party debuff”

Which didn’t change anything in game

And wasn’t datamined as a change unless you like

Went out of your way to look at deathmark itself

Which like why would you, it wasn’t mentioned in a hotfix or anything

But that flag change made deathmark break entirely in sims

And it was just a zero dps cooldown for about 2 weeks until we realized it

[crisp pine]

Did that change something with that aug evoker abiltiy maybe?
Sense Power it's called I think

[balmy condor]

Or them “fixing” shrouded suffocation and then inadvertently making improved garrote snapshot for no fucking reason

But only some stats

And not all of them

And then I had to update vanish usages and stuff cause it made puzzle box undersim like a mfer

And then a couple days later they fixed it

And I had to rip all of it back out

That was fun

[dire flume]

how did vanish make puzzle box undersim

[balmy condor]

Nope, changed literally nothing

[crisp pine]

that's awesome

love that for u

[scarlet orbit]

Sounds lika a arbeitsbeschaffungsmaßnahme for you delivered by blizzard

[balmy condor]

Improved garrote snapshot, you garrote, you puzzle box, no damage increase

You garrote, you puzzle box, you vanish garrote, yes damage increase

Now improved garrote no snapshot so you don’t have to waste vanish anymore

[balmy condor]

It’s brilliant stuff really

[golden loom]

vibe vanishing

[dire flume]

bring back snapshotting tbh

[balmy condor]

And then people go “BUT WHISPYR! Assa hasn’t changed at all! How could things be wrong!”

[scarlet orbit]

Maybe some cheeky haste snapshotting like sub heared they love that shit ^^

[balmy condor]

And then I explain it and they get mad and block me

So that’s neat

[crisp pine]

Block u?!

[dire flume]

apl management is witchcraft as far as im concerned

[shell plaza]

new talent builds are updated in wowhead i see

[balmy condor]

Also I just committed death vomit mouth bath toaster bomb because of reading this thanks, I have multiple cancers now

[dire flume]

np

[balmy condor]

Those didn’t actually change

[golden loom]

only cool snapshotting was CT target count stuff

I loved doing 10s on the orb week and snapshotting a 5 target CT onto a ST boss

[scarlet orbit]

i did like that aswell i also just loved old ct was a fun button to press

[versed mica]

Is there any reason why we are talented into shiv and toxic stiletto when we aren't deathstalker?

I like my increased movement speed in stealth :))

[dire flume]

oooOoOOOo Scarrrrry

[crisp pine]

soothe 👍

[golden loom]

I don't even have shiv on my bars

[crisp pine]

There are a lot of mobs that enrage this season idk

[balmy condor]

They asked a bunch of questions about why X was now better than Y and “it was bugged in sims” followed by “that other thing was bugged in game” followed by “it’s not a large difference don’t worry, these points don’t matter” came across as “fuck you you’re stupid and dumb and I’m so much better than you” and bro said I was talking down to him and then instead of talking about that he just straight up blocked me and now just shows up and asks questions in ravenholdt and I respond and he doesn’t read it and can’t read the pins cause I’m blocked and like idk what his problem is

But anyways

[dire flume]

namedrop them 👀

[crisp pine]

that's dapper

[balmy condor]

They’re good buttons and you need to soothe

[balmy condor]

Nah, that would actually be a cock move

[crisp pine]

Whispyr needs to maintain his public image as a softboy uwu

[wary light]

Played assa in some keys yesterday and there was definitely damage happening but it feels so much less satisfying than TWW assa for me 😭

[versed mica]

but movement speed smgh

[balmy condor]

My public image in general seems to be either “he’s a bottom and a twink I’m gonna squish him” or “what a jackass prick”

And nothing in between

It’s very strange

[crisp pine]

maybe both are true at the same time

[dire flume]

did anyone review this guy

[balmy condor]

True

[dire flume]

i learn a lot through osmosis so if someone could review them and what mistakes theyre making that would be great

[balmy condor]

I didn’t review him, and unless I review logs in here they generally don’t get reviewed

Which is why I turned off !log

But ya know

[grim jay]

The hole quake left behind

[dire flume]

i will learn and i will become the reviewer 🙏

[crisp pine]

I'm only active here like a couple of weeks each year because eventually I can't handle the same questions over and over again anymore but I think you're pretty neat Whispyr

[balmy condor]

That guy was doing like 7 log reviews a day for a month straight

[golden loom]

I like reading logs

[versed mica]

so puzzlebox before or after vanish?

[balmy condor]

Fucking insane

Doesn’t matter

[grim jay]

The big dawg in every way

[strange onyx]

I am gonna beat that

[balmy condor]

Sure you are

[grim jay]

Loa reviews

[balmy condor]

That’s misinfo if I’ve ever seen it

[scarlet orbit]

I remember that you did a how to read assa logs 1 o 1 in df at some point. Maybe you could do one again and make the ! log command just link that so everybody who wants to learn how to read his own logs can do it?

[rugged basalt]

gm

[balmy condor]

Yeah it would be like a 45 second video but doable

[rugged basalt]

A secret third, mildly interesting option

[balmy condor]

ain’t shit to think about anymore on this spec

[shell plaza]

we need more whispyr videos, they are comfy

[scarlet orbit]

Perfect for our current attention span 👍

[shell plaza]

[crisp pine]

Can u include subway surfer gameplay on the side pls

[dire flume]

people say that about their specs now but i think yall vastly underestimate how dumb some of us are

[scarlet orbit]

I still find it funny that i personally perform alot worse on both new sub and new assa then last season xD

[golden loom]

Opening move on logs -> resources -> tables -> combo points -> if it looks fine then stuff is probably fine

[civic trellis]

define fine

[balmy condor]

I think it’s genuinely just everyone is performing better

[dire flume]

like yeah the best players of the spec are going to not like that things have been made simpler in comparison to previous expacs

[rugged basalt]

I listen to whispyr and shindigg when I’m falling asleep at work so I subconsciously get better at the game

[golden loom]

sometimes you see an insane amount of combo points wasted and you realize they arent finishing on 5