assassination

[frosty cedar]

this is totally real. its happening all around us. you are being left behind.

[balmy condor]

Sword weaving is up there with “just use a 1cp envenom to proc the apex faster”

[golden loom]

it might be time to recraft the bracers and send all hero crests

[balmy condor]

I always wondered who those people were that floor their accelerator when the light turns green only to immediately hit the next red light

But then the whole “do I envenom on 1cp” thing happened

And I understood

[strange onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qEWqpbpZcKBa3y2nD2i6iH

yo raidbots hitting me with the april fools sim

[frosty cedar]

he is fistweaving

quickly hide the sim

[storm forum]

I thought apex only proc'd on 5+ cp

[strange onyx]

I put the SECRET in secret technique

[storm forum]

Or is it just the hero talents at 5+?

[balmy condor]

That’s actually the new raidbots report, it’s telling you that you’re GAINING 2115 dps

[balmy condor]

Just hero

[frosty cedar]

crafting bracer? real gamers craft cloak so they can steal all the bracers from raid, because everyone else crafted bracer

stay winning

[viscid spear]

KILL FOR ME, NOW!

[golden loom]

problem is that I do not even have hero bracers somehow

[storm forum]

So I'm not completely trolling when I accidentally double tap env

[golden loom]

so I cant get the hero of the dawn achievement..

[little tulip]

s'cute

[subtle tundra]

wait youre actually cocking, look at what others crafted/have on mythic already so you can steal more loots

[grim jay]

People with a 6k exhaust system on a 4 cyl golf

[golden loom]

bro bracers stink!!

[storm forum]

I crafted back cause my alt is a tailor and I don't have LW alt

[frosty cedar]

so, for a bit of fun, I actually tweaked the APL for a custom sim to do 1cp envenoms to go into the max apex talent, and hilariously, it only lost like 2k dps

[balmy condor]

I mean…. You definitely are

[frosty cedar]

if you remember that fellow who was not understanding in here that it was bad, I simmed it just for him

[balmy condor]

which one

[spring moat]

Missing should be a thing of the past. My garrote missed several times on heroic dragons

[frosty cedar]

lmfao

[storm forum]

Only 2k!? That's like all of skoopi's dps!

[balmy condor]

Garrote can’t miss….

[little tulip]

s'cute

[spring moat]

I had to hit it like three times 🤔

[strange onyx]

Yo, I give you tech and ytou give me flame?

[frosty cedar]

I tried to cook as hard as I could, and also did a sim where it only sent 1cp envenom to max apex during non-bloodlusted deathmark

[strange onyx]

Stop spreading misinformation!

[little tulip]

okay but it's nice that we can hit 10-13% sped and also run some avoidance

[balmy condor]

Nephew, as respectfully as possible, what?

[little tulip]

except for the part where the enchants are expensive

[strange onyx]

Only thing you cooked is your take

Go back in the kitchen nephew

[frosty cedar]

well the cook behind it was that during bloodlusted deathmark your basically overcapping so you just sent perma, so the only time I could possibly think that it might somewhat be kind of useful would be during nonbloodlusted deathmark, where you have more energy, could technically benefit still from apex without overcapping, but holding during a damage increase seems bad

[storm forum]

Can't be misinformed if you forget everything that's ever been said to you

[frosty cedar]

it was of course still bad

[warm vortex]

Dude

[balmy condor]

But deathmark gives energy and finish the job

[warm vortex]

You have like 100s in everytthing
Dissapointed

[balmy condor]

The place where it would be good would be during absolutely nothing

In the middle of nowhere

[strange onyx]

Whispyr is doing an april fools where he is mean to everyone

he is gonna say april fools! at the end of the day

[balmy condor]

What

How am I being mean

[strange onyx]

April fools!

[frosty cedar]

yes deathmark gives energy, but outside of bloodlust its not enough to full overcap you, so you could technically beneift from the energy gain from the apex, while because of finish the job, you don't really want to be sat there waiting for apex to proc

realise im not arguing it for you here. that was just the cook to still prove it was bad even if I could think of some kind of optimal circumstance

[balmy condor]

I guess yeah

[little tulip]

uhh

[frosty cedar]

also youd have to run poisoiners drive my beloved

instead of stinky inspiring

[balmy condor]

Piss on her dry

Bad talent

[viscid spear]

Prometheus, you sly devil

[grim jay]

Im slamming 1cp envenoms on deathstalker to have no downtime on the mark benefits, get on my level

[frosty cedar]

he might be him

[storm forum]

How much would ds lose taking env cp over 5% dam?

[balmy condor]

[grim jay]

[frosty cedar]

poisoners drive isnt actually as bad as its rep gets, yes its a dps loss but its like 700dps for me or something

[storm forum]

Cause ds feels so starved when I play it and it upsets me

[viscid spear]

[strange onyx]

one third of my dps that

[frosty cedar]

inspiring is strictly better but I love poisoners drive to play

[balmy condor]

Problem is that it only gets worse with more targets once you got the seal fate doing its thing :( I’d love to see it being like 2cp that way it’s clearly better in st and cleave but still shit in aoe idk

But id also want envenom uptime to not be a billion percent

And neither of those is ever happening

[viscid spear]

Gonna try 10s later today, hopefully they go well.

[strange onyx]

I have been struggling in 10s lately

[balmy condor]

You mean go good

[balmy condor]

If only you did 2116 damage

[strange onyx]

):

[strange onyx]

.

[balmy condor]

Fair

[little tulip]

i got a spare heroic hungering victory for the assassin enchant

[viscid spear]

Me do good, make red things more red with pointy end.

[balmy condor]

Taking notes ty

[little tulip]

but also 70 keys total in two weeks is a lot

[viscid spear]

Last time me hold sharp end, big ow

Wash hands with yellow fruit, bigger ow

[frosty cedar]

yeah like, the thing is with poisoners drive, is that the gap between it and inspiring is not as large as one might expect given inspiring gives 5% damage bonus.

ive seen in here people compare the bonus from PD to being equal to 1cp of envenom or a certain percentage of envenom, but its actually a pretty well thought out talent that has good benefits overall for energy economy

I think the main reason why its somewhat competitve and not dogwater tier is because, ultimately, having both Seal Fate AND Deal Fate has an interesting interaction where, at certain crit levels, mutilate is heavily weighted towards giving 4 CP compared to the other options, because mutilate gives 2cp if no crit, 4cp if one of the attacks crit, and 5cp if both crit. At, say, 40% crit chance, the chance of one of them critting is quite likely, so most of the time your getting 4cp, which, conveniently, lands you into 5cp with poisoners drive.

this coupled with the fact that assassination is ultimately a spec about spending available energy efficiently, and that finishers, at present, are extremely energy efficient compared to builders, you get more cycles of one single generator -> finisher compared to multiple -> finisher, so the overall energy efficiency is increased over a fight

in short please buff poisoners drive my beloved

thanks for coming to my poisoners drive talk

[strange onyx]

happy or sad that happend to you

too long cant read

[little tulip]

ye clap clap clap

[viscid spear]

Too early for wall of text

[frosty cedar]

its 13:35 in the real timezone

[viscid spear]

Mr. Whispyrgonavitch, tear down this wall

[balmy condor]

Bro is spitting facts

[frosty cedar]

[viscid spear]

I forgot you have to read everything posted here because you're a mod.

[strange onyx]

Whispyr gets payed hourly for being in here

thats why he never sleeps

he is gonna retire by the time he is 37

[viscid spear]

No wonder he turns slow mode on a lot

[balmy condor]

I genuinely like reading well thought out discourse about assa and hearing people’s opinions

[little tulip]

i mean last season was 400 timed keys sooo

[balmy condor]

The problem is 99% of the time the discourse and opinions are “I’m out of energy fuck blizzard this is the biggest shit ever why aren’t they buffing this dogass spec lmao rogue dev got fired xddd they’re never fixing bugs”

[viscid spear]

I'm doing real well this season so far, and then I see everyone complain it's too easy

[balmy condor]

The 1% though is people like backshot actually taking time to provide a substantive and well thought out post

[viscid spear]

[balmy condor]

And I love that

[onyx crane]

I get hc alnseer trink in vault then sims tell me to pick myth shoulders :C

is simc playing april fools jokes on me ?

[strange onyx]

Which part of the % am I Mr.Whisp?

[balmy condor]

You’re not on the same plane of existence as a measly percentage

[strange onyx]

Now, this. This is great!

[viscid spear]

[balmy condor]

He informs

[strange onyx]

Ask and I shall inform

[balmy condor]

Shoe size?

[viscid spear]

He informs at ion.

[strange onyx]

40 - 42 in european shoe

[dire ether]

can i ask, with blizzard addon changes, is it possible to glow nameplates when not effected with certain auras (garrote / rupture)

[frosty cedar]

I dont like seeing dooming in here as well, as I actually high key think we are kind of good atm and just slept on and underplayed

[balmy condor]

:( I’m a 44, guess we aren’t foot buddies

[strange onyx]

I got small feet

[little tulip]

ye on the other hand had someone be surprised when all 3 dps and the tank pulled up in the 10-12 bracket

[strange onyx]

what can I do

[frosty cedar]

bro how do I convert UK to other foot sizes

[balmy condor]

Not that i know of

[viscid spear]

What's a US 11 over there?

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-devil-diabolique-evil-gif-9725651736562738158

[grim jay]

In the shadows of Azeroth, the greatest assassins don’t rush the kill—they become it.
Where others trust the blade, a true master trusts the slow certainty of poison. With Poisoner’s Drive, every toxin is no longer just damage—it’s destiny unfolding. The target weakens before the strike ever lands, their fate sealed long before they realize they’re dying.
Because assassination isn’t about a single moment.
It’s about making the end… inevitable.

[balmy condor]

I know

[strange onyx]

We are good in a lot of content, but raid is kinda bad for us. Consider yourself informed

[little tulip]

really excited to see how speedrun-esque this season is gonna be

[strange onyx]

How do I know that? I have european shoes

[frosty cedar]

im 13.5 UK so I think thats like 50 EU. I might be bigfoot

[little tulip]

toe cap matters more than the size of the feets

imho

[strange onyx]

yo pin this

[grim jay]

Thats like slightly bigger than average

[frosty cedar]

well thats the thing, I may be in a scrub guild, but this is just not the results im getting in raid, at least the first 4 atm

[strange onyx]

Some goober gonna come in here to check the new pin b4 his raid only to convert his shoe

[viscid spear]

I'm a 273 in Korea

[balmy condor]

Don’t ping me unless yo feet >25cm lil gupper

[onyx crane]

so should I pick alnseer to get rid of the renown trinket finally?

[frosty cedar]

for example, on nexus king last night, I had a 4% wipe pull where I was higher than the highest sub rogue, just didn't kill it. I ended up getting pretty close on our kill pull

[balmy condor]

What’s the alternative

[grim jay]

Who the fuck has smaller feet than that

[frosty cedar]

on our kill I was equal to a 96 log on a spriest, so id say thats pretty alright

[onyx crane]

mythic shoulders, on ST the trink sims higher on DC shoulders are tad ahead

[grim jay]

Dungeonclice

[onyx crane]

yes

ít's new

[strange onyx]

on the mythic?

[frosty cedar]

yes

[grim jay]

Its the evil twin, basically dungeon routes

[onyx crane]

Dungeoncutlet

[frosty cedar]

the highest sub rogue is 127k, ah, on our almost kill, I was 125k

so close

[grim jay]

Dingus cauldron

[frosty cedar]

but I ended up with 113k

[onyx crane]

I am still running champ puzzplebox and crucible

[balmy condor]

I think Alnseer is probably the take but you could clear heroic chim and see if you get it maybe

[onyx crane]

that probably won't be till friday but the vault don't spoil I guess

[strange onyx]

I like my mythic Alnseer

[onyx crane]

well aren't you a cutting edgy boy

[subtle tundra]

can someone explain to me what the fuck is peoples problem with puzzle box

oh no a cast

fucking what?

whats the fuckijg problem

[little tulip]

oh actually

i have a video about this

[grim jay]

Try puzzling DN

[onyx crane]

it cna be annoying to used it during some mechanics

[frosty cedar]

we love puzzle box

[subtle tundra]

are people just that shit at the game

[viscid spear]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1487881361506173028/puzzlebox.gif

[subtle tundra]

i doubt

[strange onyx]

Thats Hall of Famer, for you nephew

[frosty cedar]

famed slayer of the undreamt OMEGALUL

[onyx crane]

nephew... I'm unc !

[viscid spear]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/1347570769441329202/watermark.gif?width=373&height=210

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/hellraiser-gif-13208814

I love my puzzlebox

[balmy condor]

Excuse you I’m also a fabled slayer of nipple less or whatever his name was

[subtle tundra]

i actually like the trinket way more than macroing some other in my cd

[onyx crane]

chimmy

[frosty cedar]

the ?? boss? don't you mean hall of work from home?

[little tulip]

https://youtu.be/VHf6xNYP688

[frosty cedar]

hall of called in sick to work?

[little tulip]

if you get motion sick that's good news

[onyx crane]

well you asked what issue people have, the fact that you don't have that issue does not invalidates the issues other experience

[little tulip]

i do for like..a second

[grim jay]

Hall of unemployed

[frosty cedar]

[balmy condor]

Hall of John wowhead wins again

Stay small wagie!

[strange onyx]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/854871502

[onyx crane]

hmmm

[strange onyx]

Here you go

Here is some real drifting

doing tricks on it

[frosty cedar]

the day I take time off work to get hall of fame on a delve boss is the day I truly realise I am cooked

[grim jay]

Im pretty sure most in there didnt take a day off

[subtle tundra]

💋

[frosty cedar]

at least on EU it was joever before end of work day

[onyx crane]

but seriously is that renown trinket that 'good' ?

[frosty cedar]

yes

[balmy condor]

Yes

[frosty cedar]

its cracked

[sharp viper]

Stupidly good for ilvl

[onyx crane]

wild, blizz did something well for a change

[grim jay]

Ye but thats assuming they have something to take a day off from. Noone in their right mind takes a day off on a week where nothing is happening

[grim jay]

How so

[plain thistle]

better than this bad boy?

[sharp viper]

Would be better than alnseer if myth track probably

[grim jay]

Personally think it aint a good thing

[frosty cedar]

perish immediately

[sharp viper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1487567692931010621/puzzlebox.gif

[plain thistle]

we puzzling boys

[frosty cedar]

this bad boy has served me faithfully in raid so far

[balmy condor]

Delve hall of fame is basically just blood dk circle jerk pov anyway

[little tulip]

maybe thursday if we get crown i can try to pug a keel or two on mythic

[severe meadow]

My friend sat and grinded it for about 6-7 hours on guardian Druid

[warm vortex]

Socket angle?

[frosty cedar]

[little tulip]

pleas

[frosty cedar]

get back to survival rodent

[balmy condor]

How does one grind a 15 minute boss for 6-7 hours

[severe meadow]

Kept dying

[balmy condor]

But how

He can’t hold aggro on guardian

[onyx crane]

well I got krik's dagger last night

[severe meadow]

Hey man, I’m just the messenger

[balmy condor]

No? You’re jay

[warm vortex]

Posting this again

This’ll be u

[frosty cedar]

[subtle tundra]

how are people so bad at the game they try the boss for 6 hours to get it

the boss does nothing

[balmy condor]

I mean on dps I can see it just because the melees are rough

But on tank?

No clue

[balmy condor]

Where’d you get this pic of me and my gf

[sacred oyster]

i think they meant lots of wipes

[warm vortex]

I don't reveal my methods

yet im still trying to figure out who's who in the picture

[mental bramble]

What other than the implacable buff are we looking at for in ST raid? Also are we just making sure Caustic Splatter doesn’t fall off in AOE? Any more important buffs to track? Both using FB build.

[frosty cedar]

if your talking about the CDM, I have garrote, rupture, and implacable

in AOE its pretty hard for spatter to drop off as its applied by KB and envenom

I wouldn't really bother tracking it

[mental bramble]

Okie no other buffs to manage? Like for example, Coupe De Gra stacks on sub?

[frosty cedar]

implacable is still bugged on CDM and only shows like half the time, so watch out for that

oh, I do have envenom buff tracked as well

[tame charm]

cdm is different for different specs no?

[frosty cedar]

I think that does make sense

[frosty cedar]

I presume so. I think hes asking what to track for assa specifically

[frosty cedar]

I would just suggest tracking garrote, rupture, envenom and implacable, that's all

this is with the caveat mind you that you are playing fatebound

[mental bramble]

Oh yeah just giving an example w the Coup de Gra on sub as an important buff to watch out for, looking for the most important buffs on assa, I appreciate it this helps a lot thanks! And yes playing FB 👍

[frosty cedar]

not a problem frien

[spice spire]

Yeah buddy sass him again and this’ll be you but it won’t be a foot shadow 😈

[cinder mountain]

not rogue specific, but does anyone have info how to get 6th spark for crafting this week on ALT?

[frosty cedar]

um I think you just do the weekly quest right?

[cinder mountain]

I've done weekly but it gave me 5th one

if I remember 1st week we got one extra

I can't remember from which quest

[frosty cedar]

if you havent done the extra one quest, go to the dragon at the entrance on the left of the inn

skip the story

and go to lorthemar for midnight world tour

[sacred oyster]

there are some pvp quest too

[spice spire]

From doing all of the events (abundances, defending the crystal, etc)

[frosty cedar]

i think this is the one that gives you the skip to get midnight world tour

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/drool-gif-2610555184024771987

[spice spire]

You need god king

[analog field]

why track CDG though? It doesn't even work well as a buff. All subs have the eviscerate one for tracking

[cinder mountain]

you are MVP thanks man!

[frosty cedar]

another successful backshot

[split birch]

i know its bad but i love sudden demise

[mental bramble]

I track my stacks for CDG on sub, once I hit 4 stacks u get CDG I try to use or save the CDG if my shadow dance is almost up and if it lines up then I’ll use CDG while in SD for a dmg boost on the ability.

[latent kernel]

meta flip to assassination when???

[frosty cedar]

soon brother

im working as hard as I can to defeat sub rogues on rankings who will join me

[warm vortex]

No

i need you

[spice spire]

[dire smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-hit-the-jackpot-gameboyjones-hakari-green-screen-black-guy-gif-7781853818237960786

[royal lantern]

eh

its allright

grabbing the shoulder and call it a day i gues

[frosty cedar]

could be worse

[royal lantern]

head would be a bit troll when the first boss in the raid drops a head piece tbh

[plain thistle]

no puzzle box, sad

[royal lantern]

oh no

i sadly can only use the worst trinket in the world on heroic level

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-sad-cat-meow-miau-gif-6328767290373659285

[shut sand]

I found out if u have some tier pieces, ideally 4

u CAN, im not recommending this to anyone, but if ur running lots of m+ u might find it "more realxing" to do this... u can take out Regicide's reward and get Shrouded Suffocation(improved garrote) and IT WILL NOT tank ur ST that much

this is with blindside build btw not the standard m+ build

[runic hinge]

Worse than branch?

[plain thistle]

god damn, which addon is doing a april 1 joke, character doing a squicky sound when I jump

[fallow canopy]

That's just old age unc

[royal lantern]

i banished branch from my small brain

you just brought it back

thank you

[subtle tundra]

i love box

i love box

i love branch

[coral ibex]

nobody puts respect on fiber of living agony

[subtle tundra]

i love branch

[coral ibex]

smh

big crit

[runic hinge]

One time I parsed a 97 on gnarlroot and I made quake log review me and he told me I woulda got 100 but I collect my last ball a tick too early

[fallow canopy]

Ball grabbing skills were lacking smh

[woeful wigeon]

sometimes delv's is nice to us noth myth buts stats wise

[coral ibex]

stats dont really matter unless you mean the leech

[warm willow]

damn i actually killed the delve dude as assa, didn't think i had it in me

[somber sparrow]

one has an 11k enchant and one doesn't so ^^

[woeful wigeon]

btw shud i craft craft extra 285 dagger ? with myth crest or neck /ring ? still on champ track being unlucky in m+

[coral ibex]

no

offhand barely matters at all

i would even say that spending hero crests to 6/6 your offhand was a waste unless you are already 6/6 in every other slot too

[woeful wigeon]

still holding hero crest cause still got champ neck and rings being unlucky got the hero track from 4weeks quest havent selected what to take both are trash

[latent kernel]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Stats
You will always get more accurate results using Raidbots Top Gear, as stat values will flucuate depending on gear and situation.

Agility (Item level) > Crit > Haste > Mastery >>>> Vers
The ratio between secondaries ends up being roughly 40/33/26/1

[latent kernel]

so really the gear difference between having good stats for sub and having good stats for sin is like a ring or necklace lol

[real pike]

I love big brother

[royal lantern]

almost as if people here tell you for like 3 weeks now "secondarys dont really matter"

[real pike]

Guys I stacked crit and my dps got lower ?? Are the stat weights wrong????

[plain thistle]

weak bait

[real pike]

[strange onyx]

Bro you ain’t even April’s fool. You are the entire fucking calender’s fool

[real pike]

Why stop at just one day

[hazy sundial]

I like to drink the lemon juice straight from the thing

[violet otter]

I have a question for my vault options please:
the myth track items are these 3 (the trinkets are close dps wise - both in combination with puzzle box - banner is 0,8% ahead)

I entered this week with one T-piece and could immediatly go for the 4 piece now. However....the T piece I got is the chest and in the vault I got myth track gloves which I could katalyze. I will have an item which I will never swap out again. so the question is: banner for DPS gain winner or gloves for a ''locked'' choice?

[subtle tundra]

this might seem as a hard choice for you

but its very simple

banner is a bad trinket

get za gloves

[violet otter]

bad aka sim-trap? I was suspicious of ''spawns something that does dmg'' since these things tend to have pathing issues and what not.

but yeah...gloves feel ''more correct''

[subtle tundra]

well what are you replacing with the banner

[violet otter]

263 solarflare prism...which is also a very convienent and nice trinket

[subtle tundra]

which is also a pretty bad trinket,right?

[violet otter]

😥

[subtle tundra]

so thats why it seems that banner is good

try to compare the banner with renown trinket from void storm

[latent kernel]

banner is dogshit take da gloves

[violet otter]

will do that

[violet otter]

will probably end up doing that too

thank you guys for your help an insight 🙂

[violet otter]

oh wtf...the 272 Banner is one the same level damage wise as the maxed out renown trinket on 263

[stuck lodge]

do you start getting hero crests once you've capped on myth?

[woeful wigeon]

y

[stuck lodge]

nice, ty

[golden loom]

You are so smart for someone who hasnt played since WoD!

[subtle tundra]

i have been holding this poop in me the whole day

[golden loom]

That does not sound healthy!

[subtle tundra]

poop anxiety at work

[coral ibex]

damn bro

let it go

[golden loom]

Thats the best time to poop tho

Paid shits 🔥

[coral ibex]

boss makes a dollar i make a dime

that's why i poop on company time

[subtle tundra]

i can forgive them for my poop anxiety

[coral ibex]

ive probably been paid for literally thousands of hours worth of pooping

[subtle tundra]

considering how much i sleep while i work from home

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chaterale-mdrr-3d-gif-17442785

[coral ibex]

hm actually probably only like 625 hours in my lifetime

[analog hedge]

does anyone know at what tier does delves drop heroic crest(?)

[coral ibex]

8's

[viscid spear]

When you're capped on Crests it just gives you the next lowest.

[humble verge]

one of our DKs

why is everyone but me getting vault

[somber sparrow]

just right click the vault in the bank area, you can get vault too

[fallow canopy]

Have you tried getting a better vault?

[rotund oak]

coz u are toxic

also dw

next week

[cinder steppe]

should i just upgrade the myth pieces fully i got if i have the two crafted already?

or is there any other optimized way to upgrade items?

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/ちいかわ-chiikawa-gif-1755452765368619003

[warm verge]

this is from a pit of sauron 10+ i still feel like my damage is low w/' 4 set anything look off?

[little condor]

Ist assa better in raid that sub already or do I have to want for more tuning?

[little condor]

Whats Ur ilvl and how much did you do Overall?

[warm verge]

overall at 265

trinkets: puzzle box and crucible (both champ)

[coral ibex]

you did 60k overall in a pit of saron 10?

that cannot be right

[warm verge]

fully flasked 942 crit / 627 haste / 370 mast

[coral ibex]

are you sure that's not the final boss

it says 2:28

for fight time

[warm verge]

mb king this meter is buggy

damage profile

[coral ibex]

75k is still insanely low, i dont get it

[warm verge]

agreed!

[coral ibex]

like actually half of what i was doing at 271 in a 10

[warm verge]

like i get purple parses in heroic so i know im not a COMPLETE chud lol

but im doing somthing wrong in M+ for sure

[coral ibex]

are you spreading bleeds?

[warm verge]

yep, i count the targets devide by 2 and press it that many times

[stuck lodge]

Man thats what I was saying yesterday

[warm verge]

(using combo points ofc)

[stuck lodge]

my dmg seems hella low in m+ this week for some reason

[warm verge]

like i got 4 piece

and it didnt really move

[stuck lodge]

I mean dungeon slice says I should be like 114k fully raid buffed and stuff, so idk if its just mental perception

[nova aspen]

tank prob pulled 1 pack at a time

= low overall for every1

[coral ibex]

i did 93k overall last week at 263

ive been doing keys as sub recently tho stuff dies too fast to play assa in 10's

[warm verge]

yeahhh

i appreciate yalls time just feels bad mann

[stuck lodge]

I guess you'll also get higher overall dmg if you have shitter dps with you

so bring losers to parse

[warm verge]

[coral ibex]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HL4FjxrKZ8dN6qkA?fight=1&type=damage-done&source=1

[warm verge]

your caustic is WAY higher than mine

[stuck lodge]

Here's my 94 parse from last week

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HATbBMgyZpnVDWf3?fight=8&type=damage-done&source=244

my caustic is also lower

guess its down to like, tanks moving more?

[coral ibex]

well this was also a 12

so stuff will have more hp

i dont have a logged 10 as assa

[analog field]

I mean I do like 70 in 10's unless pumping with guildies

your tank needs to pull more for you to have a good time

[stuck lodge]

yeah my dungeon slice says unbuffed I should be hitting like 80k dps overall

which is typically just below where I fall without pots or flasks or anything

[analog field]

also shaman is too much extra dmg

[stuck lodge]

usually its about 85kish

[warm verge]

it looiks like im loosing in garrote and caustic damage

my envenom is way higher

[analog field]

yeah in my 267 I do around like 80 or something

[stuck lodge]

but like, im 270 with two mythic daggers enchanted

[analog field]

keep in mind that logs with damage meters may be different

[warm verge]

true i should start logging this stuff

ig my only question atm is the caustic spatter cleave, is that cleaving off me or my target

[coral ibex]

both

[warm verge]

reallly

[coral ibex]

primarily off your target but with a secondary range check around you

[warm verge]

[coral ibex]

we used to have a pin for it

[analog field]

yeah but that is for big bosses mostly

in m+ it's your target

[coral ibex]

read this #assassination message

[royal lantern]

i dont read

explain in funny cat gifs

[coral ibex]

i sim 97k in dslice with just lust, so must just be a gear diff i think

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/694mMvvgED7hLUvSG6v1Pw

[subtle tundra]

that number means nothing

[analog field]

this is whispyrs good logged run

[cinder steppe]

should i just upgrade the myth pieces fully i got if i have the two crafted already?

[coral ibex]

there might be better uses of the myth crests but yea thats usually good

you should recraft your weapon asap

[warm verge]

i seeee so i want to try to keep adds infront me?

[quaint nimbus]

@balmy condor is the void faction rep trinket currently simming correctly for assassination

[cinder steppe]

i have two crafts myth

[stuck lodge]

you want them in the green

[cinder steppe]

waiting on cata charges from m+ for all the hero pieces i got + myth chest from vault

[analog field]

You can craft or send crests. You can try simming but probably not much different

chest upgrade goes hard I would say

[humble verge]

[plain thistle]

😋

[warm vortex]

😳

[brave gyro]

how is it possible there are only 2 rogue logs on Midnight Falls HC?

[humble verge]

because there only are

wdym

???

[subtle tundra]

cause 2 rogues that killed it have logged it

[humble verge]

cant be more obvious 😔

[brave gyro]

doi

but like

[humble verge]

rogue is just benched 😔

[heady aspen]

Yellow class need buffs

[gilded oasis]

can confirm, am benched

[brave gyro]

im about to get rank 3 lock in

[plain thistle]

my heroic ilvl logs still show 0 parses, we are currently really underplayed

oh it updated, there is more logs now

[gilded oasis]

its only Wednesday. A lot of guilds recleared other things last night and may not have gone in

[brave gyro]

well NA is on day 2, that's why i was confused

i recleared the other HCs this morning b4 work stuff

just assumed they'll be lots of people clearing it already

[storm forum]

i cant believe the assa sword swap tech isnt the pin

[stuck lodge]

Are you guys switching to bugs on big beam dude fight?

[analog field]

if you can not switch it is better

I switched on some occasions but dmg check is close

[humble verge]

we cumge

[sullen bramble]

fellow rogs

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/rubbing-belly-big-fat-belly-clean-my-belly-gif-10774914595537299162

[sullen bramble]

what is the boss situation in march on quel etc etc

cleave?

single?

[echo heath]

Someone bully the rogue dev, call him fat or something

[hollow jackal]

is Assassination really dependent on raid team for parsing?

[grim jay]

Cant call a non-existing person slurs

There are no dedicated class devs

[viscid spear]

I tried to walk into Voidspire yesterday, it told me I needed to be in a raid group.

[hollow jackal]

fair

I believe u can solo Mythic crown

[viscid spear]

But on a more serious note, I usually ignore mechanics that involve adds unless the boss(es) are literally unable to be hit (Chimaerus intermission, Dragons intermission, etc)

The trick is to hide within the boss' model

[hollow jackal]

Yeah I just checked my sims to my log and my ability uses match percentage wise but my damage just isnt that high for my item level

[grim jay]

As much as every other spec

Also sims arent accurate for any fight thats not straight up just hitting whatever many targets you hit

For the duration you simmed for

[hollow jackal]

Guess long as the boss dies huh

[coral ibex]

ilvl parses aren't real, they dont matter

[hollow jackal]

Even my regular parse seems low its only green for 266 item level

[stuck lodge]

Tell this to my raid lead who sees my purple parses become green/Grey when they press that button

[coral ibex]

they're wrong

idk

wcl brokege

dam

[normal mist]

Remove a ring, play well, now you have a purple parse

[stuck lodge]

Genius

[viscid spear]

Remove all your gear, melee the boss, then stand in a far off corner.
Voila, 100 parse

[latent kernel]

is this a normal breakdown for a +10 m+ dungeon, left is overall dmg

[static glacier]

Spatter a bit low

Also demise

I think I can safely say that’s not normal

[stuck lodge]

That third dps is letting yall work lol

[static glacier]

Some cookery was happening in that dungeon

[latent kernel]

i mean 122k overall tho?

is that bad

[static glacier]

Deadly poison putting in work

[stuck lodge]

Oh is this bleed build?

[static glacier]

Not at all bro

The build you’re playing is nonstandard

That’s why I say the breakdown is off

[stuck lodge]

Whispyr rolling in his grave

Pad dmg

[static glacier]

Overall dps looks fine

I just question the boss dps with envenom being that low

[latent kernel]

want to see boss segments?

[stuck lodge]

I mean they are basically 2dpsing it

So numbers are slightly inflated

[cyan kestrel]

Is 3rd dps aug?

[static glacier]

Sure, I’m not here to mock you or anything - I massively advocate testing and playing alternative builds

[stuck lodge]

Oh, unless that yeah maybe

[rotund schooner]

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how much haste should we be aiming for roughly?

[static glacier]

Whatever raidbots has you equip

[cyan kestrel]

Sim

[latent kernel]

Raktul

[vestal granite]

yo self

that 40k 3rd dps makes me terrified of reinstalling the game

[cyan kestrel]

So yes 3rd dps was Aug

[static glacier]

Yes they are

[latent kernel]

murojin

[cyan kestrel]

Do u have a log for that run?

[latent kernel]

yeah 3rd dps was aug

[stuck lodge]

Ah that's okay then, but it does mean the numbers are ducked

[static glacier]

It’s very interesting that bleeds carried this hard in st

[latent kernel]

thats what i was interested about

[stuck lodge]

I wonder what they would have looked like as a standard build with aug

[latent kernel]

i held puzzle box until 35% execute and sent it

[latent kernel]

no log

[stuck lodge]

I'd be interested to see the overall of this build on another run without an aug

[static glacier]

I’m almost certain it’s weaker than regular for actually timing keys

Unless your team has ungodly st

[latent kernel]

its a dumb ahhhhh build, no kingsbane or max apex lol

its definitely worse

more just a troll build for fun

[static glacier]

Bro share your best bleed builds with me

I’ve tried it before but felt unimpressed

Maybe you find a better setup than I did

[stuck lodge]

Yeah, I just mean that trying to gauge numbers with an Aug is kinda not apples to apples

I have also been unimpressed with the bleed build

[static glacier]

I’d say the loss of finisher ct hurt bleed too much

[royal lantern]

didnt they also nerf sudden demise for some reason

[latent kernel]

im about to run a pit with no aug on a 10

ill report back in 30 minutes

[static glacier]

It no longer has the edge in aoe I’m guessing, wapples could you dslice / st and 3/5/8t sims for the two builds? Bleed vs standard m+

[cyan kestrel]

3/4 apex is fine but if u didn’t have that..

[stuck lodge]

Pits a good one to test on, lots of easy dense packs

[static glacier]

I swear there’s going to be some cooked setups for a spec out there where dropping apex allows for some degenerate synergy that was previously gated

[royal lantern]

wdym

im always edging in aoe

[static glacier]

[cyan kestrel]

Guys… I miss sanguine blades

[royal lantern]

go to the corner and think about your mistakes

[cyan kestrel]

Every time I do big aoe and my energy bar is perma capped I think of what could have been

[static glacier]

Bro we ain’t got energy to afford sanguine blades anymore

[weary stump]

I miss tricks giving a DPS buff so I could have an excuse to use it on warlocks pre pull and murder

[vestal granite]

I cant even see my energy bar now that weakauras is dead

[cyan kestrel]

We got enough just pool better

[weary stump]

Count to 5, vibe, rupture/garrote refresh, count to 5 again

Mostly repeat ad infinitum

[static glacier]

Bro, you’re forgetting how much energy old venemous wounds gave, we simply have nowhere the energy generation that we used to

Not in aoe

The spec feels clearly slower

[bitter horizon]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1488547832062415010/drop_fixed.png

[weary stump]

Just don't overspend with ct, you have vibing time

[static glacier]

I agree we can be gcd capped with enough targets

[cyan kestrel]

The only time my energy dips in aoe is when I’m spreading with CT

[static glacier]

But it’s just not like tww where we had infinite energy with sang blades eating a lot of it

[royal lantern]

what the fuck are you smoking

[vestal granite]

but what did we really have to spend it on? 200k damage envenoms lol

[static glacier]

Envenom going brazy

[cyan kestrel]

Skill issue idk what to tell you

[static glacier]

Moving like chaos bolt

[royal lantern]

yes mate

skill issue

100%

[cyan kestrel]

Envenom is slapping rn

[vestal granite]

yea I meant pre crunch numbers obviously

[static glacier]

Bro if you don’t think old sin was faster in aoe idk what to say, post logs from both - the difference is clear

[weary stump]

If you don't have a frost mage in party to compete with

Everything looks fine at that point

[stuck lodge]

Or ww monk

[static glacier]

We can hit 200k envenoms post crunch

[weary stump]

Or like 7 other classes

[royal lantern]

"assa has infinite energy idk man skill issue" when assa literally runs out of energy in aoe except when its 100000000 target pulls

[static glacier]

Envenom out here slamming like chaos bolt sometimes

[cyan kestrel]

Get a bolder tank

[stuck lodge]

I swear I'm like that one meme where whatshisface is sweating and crying and then the other shot is him dancing

[golden loom]

idk the spec does not feel energy starved in any way at all imo

[stuck lodge]

That's me v. Monks and frost mage

[static glacier]

We’re not saying energy starved

Just not as energy overloaded as it was in tww

In aoe

[royal lantern]

play stuff beyond +11 keys

[cyan kestrel]

In aoe at least for me I completely ignore envenom buff and letting implacable drop because I will over cap if I wait that long

[cyan kestrel]

Done. Now what

[stuck lodge]

Yeah if the aoe is big enough you can just keep hitting fok into envenoms for awhile

[static glacier]

Yes you don’t have to play around implacable in aoe

[royal lantern]

WHAT THE FCK ARE YOU DOING

you dont even know how assa works and try to tell people about talents

[static glacier]

But that’s not the same as how it felt in tww, esp vs 4-5 targets

[royal lantern]

[golden loom]

idk like the 3rd boss in magisters

[cyan kestrel]

Am I getting rage baited

[golden loom]

your gcd capped on that pretty much

[stuck lodge]

I mean... what they said is right though

[royal lantern]

no???

[stuck lodge]

Yes, in big enough aoe you ignore apex

[royal lantern]

why would you stop using abilitys to get energy back when you have enough energy from aoe stuff

[static glacier]

Maybe my choice of target number was off but I swear the spec reaches gcd cap at higher targets

[stuck lodge]

You have enough energy to not worry about dropping at 80 stacks

What? They said they don't do that.

[cyan kestrel]

I am choosing to believe this is engagement bait

[coral ibex]

that’s called payphoning

because the song being sung is called payphone

[stuck lodge]

I love that bit

Makes sense

[quaint dragon]

guys can we get 4set this week without raiding?

[cyan kestrel]

No you need 1 piece from raid/lfr or vault*

[stuck lodge]

Did you get tier in your vault?

[quaint dragon]

nope

[stuck lodge]

Then no

[quaint dragon]

alright thx

[coral ibex]

https://klipy.com/gifs/aaaa-hola

[cyan kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-speedrunner-epic-gamer-sweatyspeedrunner-gif-22461398

[latent kernel]

@static glacier

this is with no aug

@stuck lodge @cyan kestrel

pit of saron +10

[worn nimbus]

can anyone explain this to my smooth brain, how did the best parse for my ilvl get so much rupture damage on the mobs?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/gaXm17xvkLtM3CjF/P48HyXLWc1Mbw72x?fight=1%2C36&type=damage-done&comparesearchmetric=dps&source=33%2CMiroshi

did his raid just not kill the adds and he padded on them?

[royal lantern]

very likely

[worn nimbus]

bro destroyed my rupture

[royal lantern]

checking the "best" parses almos always translates into "the guy got externals, was allowed to pad like hell and had a perfect killtimer"

[worn nimbus]

we were same time kill so thats what threw me off

[waxen oyster]

ilvl parse

[royal lantern]

wait, ilvl parse?

bruh

[cyan kestrel]

Can I see the boss damage on this one too or did it reset already

[coral ibex]

nobody tracks ilvl parses seriously

[worn nimbus]

i mean i can compare it to the highest parse but they have way more ilvl than me

so i was just comparing it to people near me

[latent kernel]

one sec, i ran KB on this one though, i just dropped a point in secondary poisoning to run KB, but still same build

[coral ibex]

yea but ilvl is just one of many factors that can affect your damage and damage breakdown

[latent kernel]

@cyan kestrel garfrost

[worn nimbus]

I am just tryong to understand comparing parses more

[latent kernel]

@cyan kestrel ick and krick

[worn nimbus]

and saw his rupture destoryed mine

[latent kernel]

@cyan kestrel last boss

[golden loom]

you dont really get to cleave as assa on chimeras

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1MdDHxFWkBpaARcr?fight=32&type=damage-done&source=1049 I just got rank 2 and my spatter did 2%

[worn nimbus]

im just going to assume he was allowed to pad on the adds in the phases

my raid kills them as soon as they come up lol

[worn nimbus]

within like 7 secs they are all dead

[coral ibex]

look at the damage breakdown for rupture

[cyan kestrel]

I was a doubter of that doing good ST but I mean it’s workin so I can’t deny it :3

[coral ibex]

he's getting literally 2x the ticks you are

so either he's spreading way before you or the adds live longer for him

[worn nimbus]

didnt even look at that, thank you

[royal lantern]

ilvl parses are still a way worse statistic

[golden loom]

you can spread asap when you go down by cting chimeras and hitting the adds

[coral ibex]

i would advise not using crippling poison then because the shitters will take forever to stack on the big guy in the back

[cyan kestrel]

Can you/did you send the talent build

[coral ibex]

this was a problem for my group

[golden loom]

aint no way I am dropping lethal dose dam!

[coral ibex]

i just hit the boss until the shitters were grouped on the big guy

PERSONALLY

[cyan kestrel]

Read lethal dose

[latent kernel]

CMQAByFP3pExAEG41/8+e6b8fPzMzMLGMAAAAAwsMYbGAAAAAQWmZmZmZGjZmZmthZmZMzMzMzMDDjBYbmlxCjZMLNmlthJbDDLGMzgZmx4DA

[golden loom]

yes?

[cyan kestrel]

What does it say

[golden loom]

WAIT

[cyan kestrel]

lol

[golden loom]

that shit got changed

[royal lantern]

its a raid fight, SOMEBODY will slow stuff by default lol

[soft marsh]

Y'all, if you had the choice: myth track Radiant Slicer, or myth track Emberwing Feather? I think both are great, but feel like the weapon would have better value right now

[coral ibex]

i would link my log but i got feared into the wall and left on the ground for a minute

got myself a fat 0

[cyan kestrel]

Why didn’t u get a brez rogue is so strong rn

[golden loom]

assa king of bossdam

most important job

[coral ibex]

because i was in left group and got feared across the entire arena

as i went to do a dispel

[latent kernel]

does internal bleeding apply to lethal dose?

[coral ibex]

so nobody on my team could get close enough without griefing the other side

[keen raven]

do we think theyre gonna make any changes to asa or just keep in the bin

[coral ibex]

assa isn't in the bin bucko

[cosmic robin]

i think i fumbled with my vault.
Took Puzzlebox cuz sim said ggs, but this trinket is on GCD and does that weird 2sec channel lmao.
Can't even macro it..

[golden loom]

its gigabis for sin

[plain thistle]

welcome to the club

[soft marsh]

It's good, but comes at the cost of being annoying

[cyan kestrel]

I’m genuinely impressed you didn’t know about puzzle box’s cast time

[coral ibex]

wait

thats not the gif sec

[soft marsh]

Was looking for it too

[cosmic robin]

i knew the casttime, didnt knew the GCD...
why is the haste on-use not on GCD and can be macro'ed with DM but this box, even with cast, not?

[coral ibex]

guess who got rezzed first

(not me)

[frosty cedar]

I have 4.3% on mine, its still worth to take imo

[coral ibex]

you kinda have to take spatter for intermission

its kinda troll not to

[frosty cedar]

agree

[coral ibex]

like maybe

MAYBE

you could take CT but not spatter

that sounds super cursed tho

[frosty cedar]

yeah

atp you might as well take both

[golden loom]

yeah I mean its worth to take cause the talents you give up are also bad

[cosmic robin]

other Q, how to effectivly play dragons? we sticking on one boss? Do we get to cleave with spatter or do we run for CT Spreads?

[frosty cedar]

I think going cleave is about a 3% loss in ST, so I presumed thats where you were going with it by saying spatter was only doing 2% 😄

[coral ibex]

on heroic you just hit vaelgor and cleave in execute

there's no other option

mythic you get full cleave the whole time

[golden loom]

ahh, nah I just meant that to parse on the boss you dont need to pad

[frosty cedar]

True, I think if you remove all my spatter damage completely, its still rank 1

so I can agree with u there

[frosty cedar]

definitely looking forward to mythic dragons

[cosmic robin]

Special talents or the same as on first boss?

[bold drum]

tell hunter to put lex out

[frosty cedar]

[coral ibex]

me too

[bold drum]

gonna steal all your pad

[coral ibex]

we're pulling on thursday

i got mental boomed by 90 minutes of chim reclear last night and played like dogshit for saladar

[frosty cedar]

ill just assign him to all the mechanics

[coral ibex]

i could have gotten r1 off you

alas

maybe next week

[bold drum]

[frosty cedar]

I still havent pulled this week so ill be increasing my r1s

[frosty cedar]

see u next week

[stuck lodge]

Seems good, send build I wanna mess with it

[cyan kestrel]

.

[stuck lodge]

Ty

Oh fuck deathstalker

Nvm

[frosty cedar]

deathstalker 💀

[static glacier]

Do you have logs?

[balmy condor]

Can’t wait to raid today

[humble verge]

Elegiggle

[nova inlet]

any uhhh - any suggestions for nullaeus ? or ??

he's kickin me arse - over and over.

[plain thistle]

dont die

[frosty cedar]

whats your ilvl?

[nova inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-funny-good-one-gif-10820434279148874810

251

[frosty cedar]

you should be fine. take healer valeera, take talent that makes feint give dmg reduction

take cleave build

kick his cast as late as possible, feint during the time he melees you

[viscid spear]

Make sure your health is above 0% while also trying to get his to that point.

[plain thistle]

save evasion for the waves with a lot of adds

[frosty cedar]

the main think you will wipe to is not killing the adds fast enough

the most dangerous add set is the lil mini guys, the second one, use evasion there and blow them up asap

you can cloak the stacking poison they put on you

[nova inlet]

the one-shots have been spicy.
thanks for the advice!

[frosty cedar]

👍

u got this

[nova inlet]

i'd like to solo it if i can. tryin my best!

[high dust]

I think I just wasted all my luck from the expansion... champion gaze of aln and hero dagger mastery/crit from the chests from firelands TW...

[coral ibex]

would prob rather have gotten hero gaze, hero daggers are kinda worthless other than as offhands unless you can't do +10 keys to farm myth crests

[real pike]

chaps why is it recommended not to use plater

[high dust]

but I dont think it can drop from that chest?

isnt the fireland chests just firelands stuff?

[coral ibex]

i thought the quest gives a hero piece from anything in the current season pool

[high dust]

and hero dagger are better than champion dagger, so its ok

[coral ibex]

i could be wrong

[high dust]

from what I remember its just fireland stuff, could be wrong too

atleast the skin seems firelandy

[royal lantern]

not optimized for midnight API changes

[random fossil]

which blue food u guys using for dungeons and shit

[royal lantern]

royal roast ofc

what else

its mainstat food lol

[random fossil]

idk man i just started levelling

[royal lantern]

yeha, dont worry about food then

its cheap to craft

[real pike]

thx I will try platynator

[stiff garden]

Im having trouble deciding my vault. 0 Set, 3 conversions ready.
Would you take myth chest, myth solarflare prism, or raidfinder Tier pants to get 4 Set?

[royal lantern]

probably prism?

[stuck lodge]

do you need to buy max rank missives?

also is there like a limit on embellishments?

or should I put one on my 3 crafted item

[keen spruce]

Normally always trinket. Main pieces easy to farm from multiple sources

[analog field]

But trinket kinda bad

heroic trinkets will sim better I guess

I would do a sim with some good trinkets and probably get myth chest

too many stats to pass on

[gilded oasis]

it makes it easier for the crafter. Stats are the same but it just changes the recipe difficulty (r1 is +15 difficulty, r2 is +5) so higher rank makes it easier to r5 the gear

[balmy condor]

Max of 2

[royal lantern]

what

its one of the better trinkets avaible rn

[hexed pumice]

chat hero gaze or myth hands vault, simming the same

[wraith kettle]

I killed last saturday. I started with DM, always stacking 4 hearts buff and trying to stay into the green circle. With adds phases i was using tricks on valeera and vanish, so i wasnt taking damage from, and using KB. In final phase, i tricked again to valeera and used deathmark + drums + vanish and finally evassion. It died fast, 57k damage on it.

[severe meadow]

Exile in

we're so back

[humble verge]

crest save LULW

[frosty cedar]

[viscid spear]

The ooze keeps flowing

into my mouth

[ocean garden]

is offhand worth using hero crests for (hungering vicotry 2/6) or should i keep them for eventual heroic trinket drop this week

[humble verge]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HDuYGGwXUAEvDLe.gif

[buoyant herald]

nah offhand is the least important slot of all generally

[ocean garden]

aight, thank you 🙂

[buoyant herald]

best thing you can do with offhand is have your embellishment on it (if you're not using arcanoweave elsewhere)

[ocean garden]

got arcano on wrist

[severe meadow]

bro I swear

my rolls

[buoyant herald]

just tell them you're golf rolling

[ocean garden]

[thorn thorn]

1s and 100s auto win

1 is insanely (un)lucky ro roll

[viscid spear]

Heroic Chim trinket dropped last night
I rolled a 3

[cloud fern]

Hello guys, I don't know what to do I had this ring in the vault but i don't if it's good or not anyone could help me please ?

I also can convert one hero shoulder to the set that i already have

[golden loom]

@humble verge the ilvl is boomin

[hearty junco]

booooooring

[cloud fern]

do you know how i could sim this ? i'm using raidbot but i don't know how to choose random pieces :/

[humble verge]

i havent sent stuff yet tho

[golden loom]

I have sent it all

[humble verge]

im probably crafting

going full in on trinket

and i have ring in vault

[severe meadow]

hm..

[humble verge]

i need to get 266 shoulders

peepo

also need to get alleria hc neck

[sand elm]

[thorn thorn]

@humble verge

Are you 3k on all your rogues yet

[humble verge]

nah

i farmed like 60 10 keys

[sand elm]

am i in the club now

[humble verge]

last week

i cba going for 3k

[thorn thorn]

bruh

[sand elm]

[thorn thorn]

🥀

[humble verge]

bro

i need to famr gear

[distant plinth]

Hes got a job now, cant do 8 rogues anymore

[humble verge]

and like

[haughty flicker]

no shot my goat is washed

[humble verge]

hesRight

[distant plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/black-man-laughing-get-into-car-got-you-lol-gif-4887692972673590281

[humble verge]

can only do 4

[rugged basalt]

holyyy 3k

[golden loom]

I did 8 keys today and it got me done for the week on rogue so now I get to do dh/dk/warrior keys

[thorn thorn]

You got a job now????

where at

[humble verge]

your moms house

april fools

[thorn thorn]

what kinda food do they serve

[humble verge]

i make my own lunch

[livid ruin]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Stats
You will always get more accurate results using Raidbots Top Gear, as stat values will flucuate depending on gear and situation.

Agility (Item level) > Crit > Haste > Mastery >>>> Vers
The ratio between secondaries ends up being roughly 40/33/26/1

[inner atlas]

Hey, does scent of blood snapshots for Garrote ?

[thorn thorn]

sammiches?

[spice surge]

Garrotes cast during the Improved Garrote window are snapshotting tick damage from Agility/Mastery/Vers.

Per the pin

[inner atlas]

So I guess it does. So does it mean we want to spread 2 IC before vanish garrote in a big M+ pull ?

Actually four/five times

[thorn thorn]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

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[hard grail]

Hey - does atrophic poison stack? Random argument im having

[analog field]

They changed it a year ago not stacking now

[balmy condor]

It used to stack yeh

Not anymore

[echo heath]

lura in a pug has been a hilarious experience

[sand elm]

[humble verge]

Rogue do low damage (盗贼伤害垃圾). same parse as arms war (评分红色，和武器战一样). Bring shame to guild (公会之耻). M+ instant decline (大秘秒拒). I stand in city like NPC.

[rugged basalt]

[thorn thorn]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

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[dapper oracle]

bring shame to guild is my fav part

[rugged basalt]

Instant decline by all leader (秒拒). Go play Hello Kitty Island Adventure (去玩凯蒂猫).

[vernal gate]

Hey guys, if my guild isnt raiding myth, is it worth to craft another 285 item this week? like ring or neck maybe?

[rugged basalt]

I was running 2 crafted pieces last week

I crafted wrist though...

[balmy condor]

Yep! If you’re not mythic raiding, crafting myth track is one of your main sources of upgrades outside of the vault

[storm forum]

Just loot a myth m+ dagger from vault 🙃

[vernal gate]

Alright thanks, ring or neck is a good way to go?

[balmy condor]

Yea usually good crafts

[vernal gate]

Ok appreciate your help, thanks

[balmy condor]

Np

[humble verge]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-fanta-promotion-rewards-limited-amounts-of-mounts-and-decor-381072 wtf is this promo

it has 0 items compared to the other games

???

[spice rose]

boys, how much haste are we aiming to get ?

[hazy sundial]

Answer to this is boring. As much as sims tells you to

[spice rose]

ya well i thought maybe there is a number we aimt to get for m+ content, i dont really like dungeons slice sims for m+

[coral ibex]

not really

just equip whatever sims highest

its usually just equipping higher ilvl until you are near full myth

generally crit/haste items will be best but crit/mast and haste/mast will also be good

[balmy condor]

What’s wrong with dungeonslice :(

[strange onyx]

I want a dungeonpiece, not a dungeonslice

[thorn thorn]

what if i want a pieslice

[analog swan]

fellas, we on top of the graphs

i did tell my guildies i was feeling strong

the 4%

was it multiplicative since stuff that work together adds up

@balmy condor thoughts?

brother left maplestory running and went to sleep 🥀

[balmy condor]

Thoughts on what sorry

[balmy condor]

It’s always open 💯

[severe meadow]

Yeah if you multiply everything surely it's actually a 90% increase

[humble verge]

it really depends, sometimes i buy some gud stuff

[analog swan]

if we take out damage to bosses and just go for damage we flop but thats natural, our bleed spread doesnt last long enough on raids

i honestly get so awkward when i do Vaelgor or Ezorak cuz i dont know if its best to walk abit to keep bleed uptime on both or stick to one and clap that ass with envenom nonstop

[analog swan]

the uprising of assa rogue, i havent been here much, was it expected? saw fellas laugh alot about the 4%

[thorn thorn]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

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