assassination

[shut sand]

Does m0 drop hero or myth crests?

[strange onyx]

No

[shut sand]

Is hero crests from heroic dungs?

[rugged basalt]

Last week I’d say delve was ok since 1 hero gear

[strange onyx]

No

[shut sand]

Damn

So no crests from dungs?

[strange onyx]

No

[rugged basalt]

M+ :p

[warped moon]

delves give ok crests

[rugged basalt]

The crests are aligned mostly well with raids

[grim jay]

I meant any week as in while season

Last week was important for vault

[warped moon]

i think i was getting them in tier 11

[rugged basalt]

Yes

[shut sand]

How tf we get myth crests then in s1?

[strange onyx]

No

[wraith knot]

No

[shut sand]

We dont?

Damn

[wraith knot]

Yes

[warped moon]

good job on the double negative there

[strange onyx]

You gotta do mythic raids, and tbh at this point we ain’t bringing you

[warped moon]

very tricky early in the morning like this

[wraith knot]

I'm tryna be positive

[rugged basalt]

Mythic plus.,.,.,.,.
nullaeus ?? (Once)
Mythic raid
Gilded cache upon having delver bounty 4 and doing delve11

[shut sand]

Bro it says u can get myth crests from delve

[strange onyx]

Yes

[shut sand]

NULLAEUS?!!!

[rugged basalt]

Open adventurers guide, delves section

[strange onyx]

If you clear under 10 minutes

[rugged basalt]

Reputation level 4

[shut sand]

Fckkkkk, is that hard?

[strange onyx]

Don’t make him farm rep

[shut sand]

Its ok

I have no life

[rugged basalt]

It’s either that or mythic raiding for him

[shut sand]

Let me do m0 first tho I need the fking bis

[rugged basalt]

M+ is right there

[shut sand]

Mythic raiding is out yet?

[rugged basalt]

[strange onyx]

Ians he is trolling you

[shut sand]

No im not

[strange onyx]

Be mean to him

[shut sand]

Dont be

[strange onyx]

That’s what Whispyr would have wanted

[rugged basalt]

Is this misinformation.

Are you misinforming me right now

Bait doesn’t work on me

[balmy condor]

Don’t drag me into this

[rugged basalt]

Whimper help is skoop serious

[balmy condor]

I’m trying my best to ignore everything atm

[strange onyx]

Whispyr goes bowling after raids imagining it is your head he is chucking at the bodies of his fellow raiders

[shut sand]

If he says no technically he aint lying he is just being true to himself being the loa of misinformation

So he could say no and it being false but him still being honest

[rugged basalt]

Do you think he runs out of energy after one turn because he had to hit all the pins

[night iris]

What I mean is that crimson tempest is kinda expensive so it feels better with tea charges, without it feels like you sit there waiting on energy

[shut sand]

He has to hit em one by one, no skill

He doesnt have aoe oneshot

[warped moon]

when my fellow raiders call for battle res i do the right thing and i use my cremating torch on them 🙂

[strange onyx]

Dps loss, go next

[shut sand]

Vibe

Bro if they died that easily their skill aikt enough for their dps to be any important

[grim jay]

If my fellow raiders call for battle res I do the right thing and bar swap to bar2 that has all the skills macored together with sit while standing on them

[warped moon]

cremating torch raidwide buff

rest in parse

[shut sand]

Btw druid tanks op

Nerf

[sharp viper]

Druid tank nerfs are getting more attention than our entire class

[near valley]

how's that going?

[latent kernel]

@balmy condor I know the rule is to envenom on 5cp, but does 5cp envenom last long enough for this entire window (envenom->puzzlebox->deathmark->kingsbane) and to have the buff up during kingsbane?

bc it's 5sec, and then wouldnt it fall off by the time you go to envenom again after kingsbane

unless im counting wrong

[balmy condor]

Yes

Worst case scenario your haste isn’t good enough and you drop envenom for like 0.3 seconds

Not a problem

[latent kernel]

Copy, it felt like a tight window when I was raiding which is why I was wondering

[stuck lodge]

it is tight but doable

[rugged basalt]

Hey

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-she-said-what-she-said-dirty-joke-joke-laugh-gif-15661968

[wraith knot]

[severe meadow]

Don’t you have some monsters to hunt..?

[normal mist]

I've done everything

Literally

Dlc waiting room now

HR 600

[severe meadow]

Fair, I still need to get back on

I downloaded it again and never played

[weary stump]

Let's not get hasty here.. I'm sorry

[stark sparrow]

Heyy guys I hope someone can help me, I've been testing my single target damage for raids, and I've noticed there is a huge disparity of what I do and the sims, I was hoping someone would bring some light to what I'm doing wrong..?
I've posted the simulation on the left and my actual damage on the right, I'm doing 10k less damage and I'm.. doing a lot less with envenom, but more with basic attacks I don't understand what's going on.. also the sims say Hand of Fate is the second dps but mine is like, wayy lower, I've got to be missing something here

these are my talents btw

[wraith knot]

When you say 10k damage less do you mean 10k dps less?

[stark sparrow]

yes I'm getting to 33k in dummies and the sims get 45k in the same ammount of time

[normal mist]

With raid buffs?

[agile fossil]

in sims you have all buffs might be it

[stark sparrow]

nopess

with buffs it gets up to 65k

it's the exact conditions I'm practicing in the dummy

I think so at least..

what I'm worried is the disparity in % damage in the skills

like why am I doing so much less relative damage than the sims

[wraith knot]

I'm at 43.7k/46k dps 5 min raid dummy/5min sim, some big things I learned was put rupture and garrote on cooldown manager and they will glow red when you need to refresh. It's important to minimise the casts of garrote and rupture, as well as only rupturing at 5+ and envenom at 5+, don't force 7 combopoints for finishers.

[stark sparrow]

yeah I'm always spending just enough to get to 5 combo points, waiting for the last second to apply rupture and garrote too

[wraith knot]

Hmm

[stark sparrow]

only times where I might cast envenom with less is to get the implacable energy regen

[wraith knot]

Are you managing implacable properly?

[stark sparrow]

where I might cast one envenom with 1 point

[wraith knot]

Don't do that

I learned that this was bad myself yesterday

[stark sparrow]

what should I do then?

just wait and overcap combo points until it runs out?

[wraith knot]

Build combo points to 5+ while you wait for 80% implacable to hit

Refresh rupture and garrote during that time if you can, it's like the perfect moment, but I don't think you should force it if you have a lot of time left on the bleeds

Basically you want to use that time to pool your energy

[stark sparrow]

what I normally do is make use of the talent that makes envenom always give you a combo point when it's already on a target

[wraith knot]

I was doing that, it's not optimal

[stark sparrow]

and when I get to 65 in implacable the next envenom I cast inmediately so it just takes a second

to proc the regen at 80

and I can keep doing 5+ combo point envenims

without having to loose globals

not sure if you're supposed to do it

[wraith knot]

This is Whispyr's guide talent points for ST Fatebound

As you can see it does not include the 1 free combo point thing

I was doing the same thing but it isn't what you're supposed to do

[stark sparrow]

it doesn't use the 50% increased damage in garrote?

[strange onyx]

I have been summoned. How can I help?

[wraith knot]

Wait shit

Wrong build

My bad

[stark sparrow]

Haii!!

I'm trying to see what I'm doing wroong..

[stark sparrow]

This is iit

[coral ibex]

if you are sending low cp envenom it is wrong

[stark sparrow]

yeah I have the exact same one!

[wraith knot]

I asked these same questions yesterday

[stark sparrow]

but then what do I doo

[coral ibex]

always finish 5+

[wraith knot]

You don't have the exact same one

[coral ibex]

always

[wraith knot]

Pool your energy.

[stark sparrow]

just wait for 5 seconds until it runs out?

[wraith knot]

Yes.

[stark sparrow]

really..?

[wraith knot]

Yes.

[coral ibex]

you just keep sending

[green pier]

use that time to refresh bleed, build to 5+

then wait

[coral ibex]

you only intentionally let the 80 stack expire

[strange onyx]

Envenom rules: Use on 5 cp
Implacable rules: if you are at 80 and won’t overcap on energy while mutilating let it run out

[stark sparrow]

so try to use the 80 stacks of implacable as the only time to refresh the bleeds

[coral ibex]

no

[wraith knot]

No that's not what we are saying

[stark sparrow]

[coral ibex]

refresh bleeds when appropriate

independent of implacable

[wraith knot]

It's ideal if you can use that time to refresh but don't force the refresh unless it's neccessary

[strange onyx]

Usually I refresh ruptue and garrote while we wait for implacable to run out

[wraith knot]

Even if it's not needed to do so?

[strange onyx]

No that’s bad ish

[wraith knot]

Interesting.

[strange onyx]

It varies on fight to fight

[wraith knot]

I will test this myself on target dummy in a bit

[strange onyx]

Remember I am street smart, not book smart like Whispyr

[stark sparrow]

I still dun get why it's worse to use a second envenom right after the 65 implacable, with the single combo point that the envenoms gives you to proc the 80 energy regen almost instantly so you can just continue pumping 5+ envenoms without having to wait

[strange onyx]

Nothing wrong with sending envenoms at 80 implacable if your energy bar is healthy

[brave gyro]

I am in crisis guys, ive had so many p3 Crown pulls with so many pugs, and every time the group stops, takes like an hour to get into a group 😭

[wraith knot]

It's worse, I tested it on target dummy last night. I thought this was a great idea but it is not.

[green pier]

good question... tbh for me, yes often - I get why it might not be necessary but surely pressing the buttons is better than actually AFKing, particularly if you are in a position where your energy pool is full waiting for implacable? surely that's just a waste of both energy cap and implacable energy regen

[stark sparrow]

Weird!

I'll give it a tryy

[normal mist]

GET GUD

[brave gyro]

stfu, i love you

[coral ibex]

because you are spending energy to do less damage

[wraith knot]

I think changing these habits brought me up by at least 2-4k dps.

[stark sparrow]

but isn't an attack with little damage followed by more than do more better than not attacking at all in the same timeframe..?

[jade abyss]

?? as rogue solo is hard o.o

[stark sparrow]

[wraith knot]

I learned it last night myself, I will have to test the rupture/garrote refresh on wait time, as well as not letting the 80% drop without energy being actually needed

[coral ibex]

no

[stark sparrow]

Weiird..

alright!!

I'll give it a try

and get back to you guyys

[coral ibex]

you still do a 5cp envenom after

you’re just doing a 1cp envenom

for no reason

[stark sparrow]

well

[coral ibex]

it doesn’t matter if implacable expires at 65

[wraith knot]

It's like an investment

You wait a bit but it pays off

[stark sparrow]

I dont have to wait 5 seconds or more to let the impebale run out

[coral ibex]

finish on 5+ cp

[green pier]

would be interested to know, like i guess you could send envenoms if energy is that healthy and just maintain the 80 stack until you need to regen but, be good to know if it flows better to just use that window to refresh if the rotation allows it

[coral ibex]

always

[stark sparrow]

I can just hit 1 envenom with 1 combo point to make the buff run out in 1 seconds instead of 5

so you get the regen almost instantly

[wraith knot]

Yeah I'm gonna test it like a bunch of times and then post here about it later, but I'm herbing right now

[coral ibex]

ok sure you can do that

feel free

nobody can stop you

it is wrong and worse damage tho

[stark sparrow]

and instead of waiting 5 seconds, you wait 1 and can fit 1 or even 2 envenoms at 5 combo points in those 5 seconds you're supposed to wait and nothing

[wraith knot]

I used to do it, it is worse, I can confirm, again, I tested this last night because they told me here and they told me the correct thing

[stark sparrow]

[wraith knot]

These guys are pro just listen to them lmao

[coral ibex]

if you don’t want to wait play a different spec

[stark sparrow]

Yeah I will!

[coral ibex]

you are griefing your damage

[stark sparrow]

I'm just trying to figure out the reason why it's worse..

[coral ibex]

because 1cp envenom is bad damage

that is why it is worse

[stark sparrow]

but does it remove the previous damage from previous ones..?

or I dun understand..

[coral ibex]

tell me why you wouldn’t just spam low cp envenoms

to get the buff asap

[wraith knot]

It's like, it would make sense if you needed energy so bad but if you're doing the correct rotation then your energy won't be so bad anymore

[coral ibex]

please

reason it out

[stark sparrow]

alright!

[green pier]

you're prioritizing getting the regen but you're not pooling because sending shit envenoms and instantly starting again - you might get better/more envenoms in one window but over a few minutes you'll be losing out with no pool

[wraith knot]

It's like short term thinking, it feels better, but it's not better

[coral ibex]

energy regen is only useful insofar as you can turn it into 5+cp finishers

[stark sparrow]

the reasoning is, if you just do that firstly you won't get it in time because the globals don't allow you to, but if you use 5+ combo point envenoms up to 80 implacable stacks, and then you have to wait 5 seconds without doing anything, it's 5 seconds in which you're not doing envenoms, mutilates, or anything if you don't need to refresh bleeds

you're just loosing damage because you're not casting

when you can cast a single evenom

[wraith knot]

We understand the reasoning but it's wrong

You can test it

[coral ibex]

so you just don’t understand the spec

[stark sparrow]

the bugg runs out instantly

[wraith knot]

I tested it

[coral ibex]

because you think empty globals are bad

[stark sparrow]

why are they nott..?

that I dun understand..

[rugged basalt]

New wowhead post. Did I sandbag well….

[green pier]

^ this is why

[rugged basalt]

[coral ibex]

omfg

[green pier]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-doctor-who-the-interstellar-song-contest-the-interstellar-song-contest-ncuti-gatwa-15th-doctor-gif-18353590251090671795

[stark sparrow]

well that makes more sense

[wraith knot]

Is he trolling because at this point I don't know what to tell him anymore

[stark sparrow]

so it's better to just get some backup energy so you don't run out of it later

and can keep doing more envenoms

[coral ibex]

go read the wowhead man i’m not explaining the entirety of a spec in discord chat at 9am i already told you low cp finishers are bad because they do less damage

[rugged basalt]

I’m confused. Who said to do absolutely nothing until the 80 wears off…

[stark sparrow]

everyone!

it's what's confusing me

[wraith knot]

You don't need to do nothing, you can build combo points and apparently refresh bleeds

That's not doing nothing

[coral ibex]

it doesn’t matter if you’re pressing buttons the whole time you were doing less damage

[wraith knot]

Pressing the wrong buttons is not better with an energy system

[coral ibex]

plain and simple

[stark sparrow]

yeah but I don't just wanna learn what buttons to press in what order and when

I wanna know why stuff does less/more damage

not just the reason being "it just does more dps"

[coral ibex]

because finishers scale with combo points spent

that should be simple enough

[stark sparrow]

this is a good reason

[coral ibex]

if you finish on one combo point you were doing less damage

[stark sparrow]

I think you're not getting my point here..

[dreamy fable]

Some classes, empty globals are bad, always be casting is a thing, but Sin is limited more by energy than globals as I understand it. So you're spending the energy from a 1cp Envenom and getting minor energy back in return, that's at actually a loss over time, and you get none of the benefits of doing a 5+cp envenom from like flipping coins and things, which outweigh the last 15% energy regen increase

[coral ibex]

no, in fact, what is going on is you are not understanding the very simple point

[stark sparrow]

is doing an envenom with 1 combo point better or worse that not doing envenom at all

[wraith knot]

bruhhhh

[rugged basalt]

You can use that time to mut, garr, fok, rup with no issue though. Additionally,
ct, melee, dm, kb, vanish, feint, shadow step, sprint, crimson vial, trinket, evasion with no issue

[wraith knot]

How many more times

Ok I'm out this guy has to be trolling

[coral ibex]

yes, doing an in venom with one combo point is worse than doing an envenom with five

how is that not obvious?

[stark sparrow]

again

doing an envenom

with 1 pint

[wraith knot]

WE UNDERSTAND YOU AND YOU ARE WRONG.

[stark sparrow]

Is better or worse

than NOT DOING IT AT ALL

[coral ibex]

you have a limited amount of energy per combat. Why would you spend it on a one cp envenom

[stark sparrow]

who said 5 points!!

[frosty cedar]

envenom costs energy to cast. so therefore it is worse than not doing it at all

[rugged basalt]

Do you have access to a training dummy

[stark sparrow]

you're not using envenom in those 5 seconds!

[coral ibex]

I said five points because the only comparison is to a five point finisher

[stark sparrow]

the buff is running out

[rugged basalt]

Crunch the numbers for me

[wraith knot]

facepalm

[coral ibex]

for some reason, you think that one combo point finishers do the same amount of damage

I don’t understand what the issue is here

[stark sparrow]

[wraith knot]

My guy listen I told you before that I'm at 43.7/46k dps on target dummy vs sim

You are at 30k

Who is correct

[stark sparrow]

Still not getting it it seems..

[coral ibex]

your logic is what if I do less damage would that mean I do more damage obviously no

[stark sparrow]

guys for hemks sakee

[coral ibex]

no, my friend, you are not getting it fundamentally

[green pier]

you say that mate but you've been told about 84 times now

[stark sparrow]

no one is saying that envenom does more damage with less combo points

but if you can't do envenoms, because you'll extend the buff of implacable

[green pier]

and are still asking the same question

[stark sparrow]

and you have to wait and not use it

[coral ibex]

Actually, you are saying that one combo point finishers two more damage than five combo point finishers cause you’re saying won’t I do more damage if I do a one combo point finisher

[stark sparrow]

for 5 seconds at least

why can't I just add one more envenom

[coral ibex]

you are literally saying one combo point finishers will make me do more damage

[wraith knot]

You can

And you'll do less dps

[stark sparrow]

that's not gonna be used at all in those 5 seconds

[stark sparrow]

when exactly sorry?

can you pin that out?

[stark sparrow]

why

[coral ibex]

HERE

[stark sparrow]

is what I'm looking for

[frosty cedar]

linkle, you only have a certain amount of energy. envenom costs energy. if you are not overcapping energy, you are not losing damage if you don't cast anything (most of the time). therefore, because the energy to damage conversion rate of a 1cp envenom is inefficient, if your not going to overcap, you will do less damage

[green pier]

because if you're not capped on energy POOLING MAKES YOUR ROTATION FUNCTION BETTER LATER

[coral ibex]

you’ll do less damage because you’re spending energy on a thing that does less damage

I don’t know how it could be any clearer

[wraith knot]

And if you are doing your rotation correctly you don't need to FORCE the 80%, you won't need to.

[coral ibex]

instead, you could spend that energy on something that just more damage

therefore, you would do more damage

[stark sparrow]

I know!!

[coral ibex]

ipso facto

how is it not obvious?

[stark sparrow]

I already said thank you to you for explaining that

you're the only one that actually gives a reason

[coral ibex]

if you spend a limited resource on something that does less damage, you can’t spend that resource on something that does more damage

[spice surge]

So you spend 32 energy on a useless envenom to get 15 energy from implacable

[wraith knot]

We've all been giving you reasons

[stark sparrow]

these other guys are still on the previous step going in circls

[green pier]

i'm not though mate 😅

[rugged basalt]

Wouldn’t you rather pool your energy for an overall higher dps? Sure you would technically do more damage doing a one combo envenom compared to not doing one, but only in that small limited time slice. Enlarge your time frame a little and that one envenom could have had its energy spent elsewhere, or could have led to a faster 5 combo envenom immediately after.

[stark sparrow]

you use it

to get 80

[spice surge]

Yes

[stark sparrow]

wihtout waiting at all

because it makes it run out faster

[wraith knot]

my dear god

[coral ibex]

eleem don’t even bother. We’ve literally explained this already.

[spice surge]

The gain is 15 energy

[frosty cedar]

but waiting isnt bad

[spice surge]

And it costs 32 energy to do it

[dreamy fable]

That's the part that's not worth it, you're gaining 15% regen but it's not worth the cost at 1cp

[rugged basalt]

The immediate very next even would need 1-2 more muts than needed already

[stark sparrow]

does the 80% increase only give you 15 energy..?

Jesus that's so little

I thought it gave you more thna that

[green pier]

ok, it's a troll xD

[stark sparrow]

then it makes sense

[spice surge]

Well the difference between 60% and 80% is that yes

[green pier]

cya boys i'm out

[rugged basalt]

I don’t think they were trolling but rather not fully understanding the mech

[frosty cedar]

its 15% energy regen for 5 seconds. I think its actually less than 15 flat energy you get for one step from 65 - 80

[stark sparrow]

but it's not 15!

guys for real

[spice surge]

Well it depends on your haste, its probably more like 13-14

[stark sparrow]

where am I explaning it wrong here

[spice surge]

I just said 15 because its a round number

[stark sparrow]

I'm not using an envenom with 1 point to get 15% energy regen

[coral ibex]

you are

[stark sparrow]

when you get to 65 stacks on implacable

[coral ibex]

80-65=15

simple

[stark sparrow]

if you cast en envenom with 1 combo point

you get to 80 stacks

[frosty cedar]

yes

[wraith knot]

WE GET IT

[frosty cedar]

and if you didnt

[wraith knot]

AND ITS WRONG

[stark sparrow]

and it only last 1 second

[wraith knot]

omg

[frosty cedar]

you would get 65

[coral ibex]

80-65

[frosty cedar]

so what is the difference between 65 and 80

[stark sparrow]

so it runs out instnatly and you immediately get the 80% regen buff

[coral ibex]

can we time out the troll

please

[stark sparrow]

no you dont!

[rugged basalt]

How did he go full circle

[frosty cedar]

why not exactly?

you said that you were on 65 stacks correct?

[stark sparrow]

you're still using envenom and getting another stack of implacable

you're at 65

[subtle tundra]

idk you have infinite energy on st

[stark sparrow]

you use enveniom

[subtle tundra]

i hate it

[stark sparrow]

you get to 80!

[frosty cedar]

yes correct

[stark sparrow]

Jesus

[frosty cedar]

so what exactly is it you are not understanding

[subtle tundra]

you have more energy in st than aoe

which is dumb

[green pier]

i do miss bleed regen in cleave 🙁

[rugged basalt]

You quit because the energy regen was too good. Not reminiscent of our spec identity

[frosty cedar]

the difference between 65 and 80 stacks is 15

[stark sparrow]

I'm trying to ask what to do in those 5 seconds I'm supposed to let the buff run out

[coral ibex]

80-65=15. 1 < 5. simple math. learn it and you will go far

[coral ibex]

NOTHING

WELCOME TO ASSA

[subtle tundra]

🤤

[coral ibex]

ITS SLOW

[stark sparrow]

I have absolutely no idea what you're on about right now

[frosty cedar]

build up to 5+ CP and wait if your bleeds are fine, reapply them if they are not

[rugged basalt]

Big picture hard to follow for small rogue brain I see enemy I want it to bleed

[wraith knot]

@spice socket Bro I think Linkle is trolling can we please time him out, he's triggering everybody here

[stark sparrow]

yeah! but I'm saying is that sometimes I just cast an envenom right after the one that gets you to 65 implacable

[coral ibex]

well you can't do basic math it seems, you dont know that 1 is less than 5 or that 15 is the difference between 80 and 65

thats all

[frosty cedar]

linkle, assa does not need to press an ability on every global. the energy system means that, so long as you are not overcapping on energy, you can theoretically just sit and not cast anything without losing too much damage

[subtle tundra]

really isnt 5 sex, a lot of the time you can refresh rupture and you still have to mutilate to build cp

[stark sparrow]

because it makes the 80 stack run out instantly and you get the 80% regen buff in a second instead of having to wait 5

[subtle tundra]

5 sex 🥴

[dreamy fable]

What's sin base regen? 20? Then the two 30% talents? that's like 26 per sec. Then x.15, is 3.9? x5 sec is 20 energy total. So you get 20 energy from each stage after the first of implacable

[frosty cedar]

linkle okay I get your point here. but can you explain why waiting 5 is bad?

your premise assumes that waiting 5 seconds is bad

why is that?

[stark sparrow]

I'm not saying it is!

[rugged basalt]

Okay, I understand the point he’s making

[stark sparrow]

I'm asking why its not!

[frosty cedar]

but you are doing something to not wait for 5 seconds

[stark sparrow]

[frosty cedar]

so why are you doing that

if it is not bad

[green pier]

and we've already told you why...

[stark sparrow]

I didn't get that last part..

[frosty cedar]

do you see what I mean

[rugged basalt]

This is a measurable training dummy exercise

[shell plaza]

you can jerk off for 5 seconds no ?

[rugged basalt]

I can’t

How do you get to 5?

[frosty cedar]

the only reason why you would not wait for 5 seconds is if waiting for 5 seconds is bad

but it is not bad

therefore you wait

[wraith knot]

Those feet pics too good

[stark sparrow]

yeah I said like 15 mins ago I was gonna try it because they say it's better

but they just keep wanting me to explain why a thing I didn't even say its better

[subtle tundra]

how about you implement it in sims

and tell us

[frosty cedar]

I have run custom sims sending 1cp envenoms for buffs and it is worse

[stark sparrow]

can you do thatt?

[frosty cedar]

I already did it 😄

[stark sparrow]

[rugged basalt]

Those 5 seconds are where you do the mechs of the fight

[subtle tundra]

ofc you can

[stark sparrow]

how! I didn't know you could!

[frosty cedar]

you would have to amend the APL but I think this is another topic we are getting onto here

I dont think simming it would help you understand the theory

is there something you are still not getting on this? I am happy to attempt to explain

[stark sparrow]

do you mind if we do it in dms..?

people here are on their own world

[frosty cedar]

if you wish

[stark sparrow]

thank youu

[coral ibex]

they don't understand the spec or how it is not gcd locked

[frosty cedar]

I will do my best

[coral ibex]

they think they must be pressing buttons for every global

despite being told that isn't how the spec works

[rugged basalt]

Some prefer to be shown why than just be told things are the way they are

[shell plaza]

they do that in the gen Z law spec

[rugged basalt]

I don’t know how long this went on for though, I think I only read the end

[wraith knot]

I think we went in a logical circle at least 6 times

https://giphy.com/gifs/drunk-raccoon-L6JsnQOgrKMTK

[golden loom]

why are we writing 1000 messages about a solved spec

@subtle tundra tomorrow the myth crests from delves time of the season starts!!

[rugged basalt]

[stuck lodge]

Do we need to hit rank 4 delve journey for that?

[shell plaza]

ye

[rugged basalt]

Si

[stuck lodge]

Because I'm only at like rank 2 despite having two characters that full cleared bounties

[rugged basalt]

You get more from doing your first +2

[shell plaza]

daily bounty tier 11 gives a lot, ye

[rugged basalt]

Each empowered mob gives some, the higher tier you are the more you get as well

Having multiple chars helps

[rugged basalt]

Cracked keystone quest alone gives like what 30 straight up

[coral ibex]

is that true and real and fact checked by real american patriots?

[rugged basalt]

Will cost you one combo point and 32 energy to find out

[coral ibex]

i need 80 for my recraft asap...

[rugged basalt]

Same, I wanna recraft both my pieces

[golden loom]

already at 40 so just gonna send the delve stuff and do my first m+ with big dagger

[coral ibex]

how tf are you at 40

[stuck lodge]

Wait m+ gives delve XP?

[coral ibex]

[rugged basalt]

Aren’t you at 30 from null ??

[golden loom]

?? boss + hc alleria

[coral ibex]

oh

heck you

[rugged basalt]

She drops myth?

[coral ibex]

gz on kill

[rugged basalt]

Nice

[coral ibex]

yea end bosses drop +1 track crests

[golden loom]

ye she give hero + myth crest

[golden loom]

ty was cinema as we all exploded at the same time

[rugged basalt]

I wasn’t sure if she did but I had reason to assume due to tww

[coral ibex]

nice

[rugged basalt]

I didn’t reply to this sooner, no it does not, I was discussing myth crest drops and mentioned m+

[subtle tundra]

yayayayayayayy6yyyyyy yaaaayayayayayya

[golden loom]

gotta get rid of the ugly sub icons on reclear tho!

[rugged basalt]

Your assa icon looks weird

[golden loom]

just got a warbound leather token in lfr on my dk

tier for my dh

[rugged basalt]

no hecking way

[normal mist]

Beautiful

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

[golden loom]

actually so hyped to wake up and do 20 hours of m+ tomorrow

its like waking up on christmas

[coral ibex]

https://klipy.com/gifs/oh-boy-patrick-4

[golden loom]

its crazy that when I planned my 1 week vacation back in January I somehow ended up on this week

[rigid tartan]

did you not get the 20 from delve +11 gilded chest this week from rank 4 yet?

i guess its only feasible for the guys with lots of alts that farmed it

[golden loom]

can you actually hit rank 4 this week

[stuck lodge]

Do I need to save my coffer keys for delve 11 and rank 4 to get mythic crests?

[rigid tartan]

yeah with like 3-5 max levels and hitting those delves a lot

[sudden violet]

Yeah. I got rank 4 but won't go past

[golden loom]

I've been delving on main + 2 alts

[rigid tartan]

im at rank 4 but i have not done heroic alleria and the nulleaus yet

[golden loom]

wait so did you get myth crests? 😮

[sudden violet]

Yeah

[rigid tartan]

yeah its 5 per gilded chest

[golden loom]

wtf

[sudden violet]

But I have 10 level 90s

[golden loom]

well I guess its kinda whatever

[rigid tartan]

i saved up doing 11s until i got rank 4 and then went and did 11s for the chests

y

[golden loom]

cause they arent outside of cap anyways

[sudden violet]

Yeah they count towards the cap

[rugged basalt]

10… wow

[cloud dune]

Y'all talking about playing the game, meanwhile midnight dropped at the beginning of my busiest season and I've been working 12 hour days, 7 days a week 😭

[brave gyro]

i wasnt even trying, just ran some on my alts

[golden loom]

will see how close I get after doing a world tour now on my dk

[brave gyro]

i just ran some bountifuls on 4-5 characters

[golden loom]

yeah I've done 8 on main, 6 on dh I think? 4 on warrior

[rigid tartan]

keep in mind most players even in higher end raiding guilds do not play more than 2 or 3 characters so having rank 4 right now because you run delves on 4-5 characters is not the standard

[rugged basalt]

That, and those alts are for splits or tokens

[static glacier]

Bro the comments about rogue on wowhead post about how well did your spec to are wild

[willow grotto]

hello, does anyone have an addon for implacable tracking ?

because the blizzard one disappears

[wraith knot]

Maybe we should pin that post that Truth made about it

@willow grotto

It's not perfect

But it kinda works.

[warm vortex]

Maybe bliz will add impeccable

It totally won’t be added in season 3 or something

[willow grotto]

Thx !

[vivid mulch]

So im a bit confused atm, should i craft a dagger? or just wait for tmr to make it

Im assa btw just went sub since its piss easy in most world stuff

[primal parrot]

cant go wrong with dagger its our bis

long term anyways

[vivid mulch]

So just craft what veteran dagger?

and upgrade it as i go

[primal parrot]

base spark ilvl is 259 at R5

so even at base ilvl its good

[strange onyx]

You can craft 259 dagger. DO NOT CRAFT DAGGER WITH HERO CRESTS. If you are a broke boi, wait until you have 80 mythic crest and then make it

[weary stump]

Just like, don't be broke

[echo prairie]

u can do it on 1 character

i got it on sunday

[dapper halo]

so, did assa dps shoot up now that we got the buff and supposedly bugs were(?) fixed

[lethal turtle]

News to me

[warm verge]

we just got a 4% buff?

[real pike]

No broke boiiis no new fwiends

God I'm so excited to get no drops in m+ spam tomorrow

[onyx crane]

don't worry you will get your mastery vers ring

[real pike]

I probably need it with all the crit haste stacking I've been doing

[royal lantern]

wdym

you will get 2 cloaks, a wrist and a bad trinket that is a downgrade

stop complaining

[fallow canopy]

the hero delve trinket that fears you for 5 sec

[shut sand]

But if u craft a dagger

U cant continue upgrading right? U have to recraft with myth crests right?

Or hero crests

[real pike]

Recraft with myth crests

It's staying with you for the whole rude

Ride

[night delta]

Guys, will I look stupid if I told you I thought there was only 1 dagger option for Forge and ooga booga'd my dagger without looking what main stat it had ?

Rhetorical question

[royal lantern]

a bit, yeha

and i will laugh

[night delta]

Well 1 good thing coming out of that I guess

Oh, and earning the transmog

[royal lantern]

you just finish the true endgame faster

dont see any problems

[night delta]

I realized that happened when I simmed myself

[normal mist]

But now you're smarter

Which is acceptable

[night delta]

I was like "huh, thought the dagger craft would be more of an upgrade"

Better check out if something's wrong

Turns out something was wrong indeed

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-a-wizard-hagrid-afirmation-magic-magical-gif-16533730

[night delta]

Blizz subtly messaging to dust off my warlock alt

Jolly good thing i'm playing casual for now

Otherwise my guild or raid group would've been all over my ass laughing at me

[frosty cedar]

he did the forbidden craft

[strange onyx]

Its always someone every tier

[torpid venture]

Anybody mind telling me why we garotte a second time shortly after unstealth as part of our openers?

[golden loom]

well since we are kind of getting showered with sparks this tier its not awful

[golden loom]

with improved garrote you want to extend it

[frosty cedar]

if you are using empowered garrote, it extends the garrote which is worthwhile as it does 50% more dmg

[golden loom]

if you arent running improved garrote ignore the step

[torpid venture]

worddddddd, thanks!

[night delta]

Yeah, I guess it'll be for m+ week 2

[wraith knot]

ur a wizard hairy

[shut sand]

I wanna go home

Play wow

[wraith knot]

I think you should keep company profits in mind instead

[shut sand]

Lmao nah

I’d raze this shit down to the ground

I got caught leaving early from work 🥲

So now I have to stay

Gotta change jobs

[frosty cedar]

just take time off bro

always 2 weeks for new patch

[royal lantern]

based and CEO pilled

now fire 20% of your staff

[shut sand]

I wish I’d get fired

So I can get free pay for a couple months

[warm vortex]

Guys remember how good shiv felt in TWW S3

Fuckin mega cooldown

[weary stump]

Shiv was our rotations humble bay leaf

[warm vortex]

It was like thanos with the infinity gauntlet

Just constantly adding affixes to it

[weary stump]

True

[cloud dune]

It felt bad. Any time you have to use utility as a dps cooldown, its a feelsbad. Part of the reason I swapped off sin is because blizzard said vanish would no longer be a dps cooldown, yet it still is

[warm vortex]

Extra charge
Aoe + bleed damage
Tierset make consume

[warm vortex]

What

Shiv is like

A soothe when many more exist

[weary stump]

Remember doing mythic loom and chaining your 2 minute burst every 30 seconds in the god pull of your tier set perfectly fucking with you

[warm vortex]

I don’t remember

Because I was Survival

[weary stump]

Death mark just going nyoom

[warm vortex]

And sweating my ass off trying to live haha

[cloud dune]

True. Many other classes can interrupt too so I should just not worry about having that utility /s

[warm vortex]

Calling for externals because I was mega toilet paper

[warm vortex]

Exactly my man

[cloud dune]

You're the worst

[weary stump]

I love using kidney shot instead of aoe blind

[frosty cedar]

that is crazy work

[warm vortex]

soz couldn’t help it

[warm vortex]

What the fuck is your name

Haha

[frosty cedar]

im a mechagnome rogue

for this tier, so I swapped to my IGN LOL

[warm vortex]

I’m playing survival hunter and shadow priest

[weary stump]

I'm forever blood elf rogue

[warm vortex]

Both feel surprisingly good this tier

Gonna see if I can get curve on the survival tonight

[frosty cedar]

I was stunlocked yday. My survival hunter picked bis for the agi daggers in the raid. I had NO fucking idea surv hunters can now use agi daggers

fourth rogue spec ??

[warm vortex]

They for sure can

[weary stump]

Love that they use daggers more than outlaw ever will

[warm vortex]

Already rocking my heroic dagger

[weary stump]

Hate hunters

[frosty cedar]

same same. 3 dropped for us LOL

[cloud dune]

You know what? Fair.

[warm vortex]

I just like it and I’m running on fumes

Sorry for being rude haha

As in

I like shiv

[weary stump]

Also not playing bm hunter in the first patch where you can rock dual capybara pets is crazy

[warm vortex]

I just say a lotta things before thinking

[warm vortex]

I’d never switch to them anyway

My loyalty is pledged to a different rodent

[weary stump]

But capy

You could name the capys capyussy and get stares

[warm vortex]

But rat

[weary stump]

Why isn't your rat named ratussy

[warm vortex]

Cause their name is sugar

[weary stump]

True

But are they going down

[warm vortex]

Nuh uh

Either way with current tuning they probably out dps Assa rogue

[weary stump]

No fallout boy rat today then

[lime onyx]

Did the sim fixes change our overall dps? Fuu’s sim sheet doesn’t seem to be updated

[frosty cedar]

assa rogue is secret op, bro

[frosty cedar]

i be slamming in my silly hc raid

[warm vortex]

Logs

Or parses rather
I wanna see the bomba

[weary stump]

I'm sticking to sin rogue until my raid lead tells me to go subtlety

[warm vortex]

Mine for reference

[warm vortex]

Gamer
Wait

[mortal drum]

damn

[warm vortex]

Ilevel?

[frosty cedar]

my guild trolled me on dragons and spammed me with PI so my log got invalidated

so it doesnt even show

[warm vortex]

Did you craft a heroic crest dagger

[frosty cedar]

im 258 atm

[warm vortex]

That explains it

Haha

Still very well played

[frosty cedar]

no I only crafted a regular dagger

[mortal drum]

this guy made me feel real insecure for a second there

at my humble 253

[frosty cedar]

we are doing alleria tonight

so im aiming for r1

[warm vortex]

DONT turn your back
He will make you feel a lot more than uncomfortable

[warm vortex]

Same here

[frosty cedar]

backshots only

[warm vortex]

I will say with 2nd boss I died like a frame before I clicked takedown

[lime onyx]

Ok just ran a quick sim based on the last fuu sim, went from 100k to 103k so a +3% dps just from sim fixes

[warm vortex]

So it would be much higher ranked

[warm vortex]

Pog

[frosty cedar]

yes it felt about 3% for me, then 4% on reset as well. Mine jumped around 7% on latest

[warm vortex]

Btw is there any Assa bugs rn

As SV I can’t run the better ST hero tree cause of bugs

[lime onyx]

I mean this wasn’t any in game damage changes, just the sims

[warm vortex]

Nono ik
It just reminded me

[frosty cedar]

yeah I didnt do the maths but it was about 7% for me was what I mean to say, when I simmed on latest build 🙂

[warm vortex]

Btw what does your tierset situation look like backshot

Idk how good it is for Assa

For sv it’s like
1.6% gain going from 0set to 4set

It’s probably more in practice but still

[frosty cedar]

its not crazy for assa. I think 2.3%

[faint crescent]

Hows assa dmg outside cooldowns

[weary stump]

Noodle

[midnight mist]

nice dog bro

[subtle tundra]

literally how i hold my rat too

[subtle tundra]

how are you baby

[bleak sedge]

Are the Poisners drive top logs cheese or is it actually good?
I know the sims say Inspiring is better but there are a lot of poisoners drive top log

[midnight mist]

im good cuh

how are you

seems like a good sin tier

are you happy

[subtle tundra]

❌

never happy

hope outlaw gets to ve meta

[royal lantern]

slightly less noodle then some of the absolute extreme cases (like sub)

but still noodle

its a midnight dps spec

[frosty cedar]

poisoners drive sims more for me

[midnight mist]

bro ..

[royal lantern]

he is even more insane then zeross lmao

[autumn idol]

!bug

nvm

!bugs

KILL ME

[golden loom]

rogue is a bugfree spec!

[autumn idol]

truth

[weary stump]

Yeah we have no issues ever

[summer bramble]

Sorry if this has been answered do i need to hit puzzle box before death mark and junk

[balmy condor]

Envenom->box->dm->kb

[weary stump]

Spin your fidget spinner of choice irl while casting puzzle box to immerse yourself

[autumn idol]

fidget spinners were a thing

[slim pebble]

Will you envenom my Bo… wrong channel

[balmy condor]

[stuck lodge]

Do I need to save my coffer keys for 11 delves to get mythic crests?

[autumn idol]

excuse me

no roleplay in my advice-only channel

[vocal basalt]

You need rank 4 for mythic crests to appear

[wraith knot]

Apologises profusely

[stuck lodge]

Wait did this change? I swear I was seeing most top logs do DM>box>KB

[weary stump]

Extreme raid prog only

[balmy condor]

No advice in my homoerotic channel

[stuck lodge]

Yes, but my question was do they only come from coffer chests

[balmy condor]

Yes

[frosty cedar]

how long until reset for the american nerds?

[autumn idol]

where is this homoerotic channel 👀

asking for a friend

[balmy condor]

Servers up any minute

[balmy condor]

Literally here

[vocal basalt]

I believe they have to be bountiful but you get them from a seperate "gilded" chest

[reef frigate]

Don’t need the keys for mythic crest

[autumn idol]

damn i thought it was a mod only homoerotic rp hidden channel

[sacred oyster]

does it need to be bountiful or can you just run a simple one 4x?

[royal lantern]

its a wonder if #assassination can go 20min without horny posting

[frosty cedar]

it has to be bountiful but you dont have to use the key

[stuck lodge]

Ty

[severe meadow]

Quake always watching.. always horny..

[sacred oyster]

though if you are doing an 11 bountiful with keys why wouldnt you use the key lol

[balmy condor]

You don’t know me

[lament oracle]

is there an alternative to wow analyzer??

doesnt seem to work with assa atm

[balmy condor]

In terms of reading your log for you? No

[autumn idol]

im noticing a dangerous pattern, most of the profile pictures here are anime pictures and homoerotic profiles

[shut sand]

If u dont know this song u iz a bih

[autumn idol]

is assassination as a spec a magnet for femboys

[dapper oracle]

Assa is gooner chat, law is doomer, and sub?

[shut sand]

I play woooow

[autumn idol]

i wonder

[royal lantern]

anime pictures?

[balmy condor]

Perhaps

[lament oracle]

ooh well guess i will have to wait then, ty 🙂

trying to figure out why i do so little dmg, im pretty sure im missing something basic and that page is usually good at giving hints 🙂

[severe meadow]

No they are the femboys

[shut sand]

Cant nobody mess with me now

[autumn idol]

dangerously based

[autumn idol]

thats what i meant

and you will interpret it that way

[shut sand]

I wanna stop but i dont know how

[balmy condor]

You’ll probably be waiting a long time I’m afraid, I don’t know anyone willing to maintain wowanalyzer

[frosty cedar]

sub is for femboys. I think thats clear

[shut sand]

Its my crowd

[severe meadow]

@thorn thorn is the main femboy of assa

[dapper oracle]

its in the name

[frosty cedar]

correct

[autumn idol]

i think WE (yes WE) can all agree rogue is femboy class

[severe meadow]

Nah

Chuds play outlaw

[shut sand]

School's out, work's over take your ass to coffee bean
I gotta get to Azeroth, you fuckers ain't stopping me
My shit's legit, look me up in the Armory
We're in war, motherfucker, there's no peace or harmony

[autumn idol]

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-thinking-twitter-gif-12745318719229189212

[stuck lodge]

Best ways to get mythic crests to craft my dagger? Group for ?? Null and farm m11s (once you reach journey 4)?

[thorn thorn]

[shut sand]

No-one seems to get it, but that's all right
My girl keeps bitchin', complaining and starting fights
She wants to cuddle, watch movies in the candle light
But wednesdays through fridays are strictly raid nights

[balmy condor]

Rogue playerbase is so small cause all the femboys emigrated to evoker

[autumn idol]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-spy-magnifying-glass-ifunny-black-dude-astonishing-gif-14375730328686511707

[frosty cedar]

what is my goat saying right now

[balmy condor]

M+

[severe meadow]

That makes a lot of sense….

[broken jay]

Keep the twinks outta my rogue class, thanks.

[severe meadow]

Reminds me of someone…

[polar glade]

Do we know how many crests we get per m+ yet?

[balmy condor]

My bad

[balmy condor]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1484624630764273745/drops.png

[autumn idol]

you might have a point

[thorn thorn]

@frosty briar and @safe frigate are actively pushing the forcefemme evoker propaganda

[shut sand]

U never watched jason hall?

[royal lantern]

wait, why tf do i still play rogue

[shut sand]

Only ogs will know

[autumn idol]

spec so good we talking about femboys and force feminization

[broken jay]

Didn’t he work at Blizzard?

[stuck lodge]

M+ at that level is probably out of my reach for a bit

[autumn idol]

wait really thats crazy

[thorn thorn]

Cuz then you gotta get the programmer socks

[shut sand]

He did? I thought he just worked for some other company

[balmy condor]

Then yeh, stuck delving I guess

[autumn idol]

we all do

on our souls

[thorn thorn]

Not me

[royal lantern]

bro, you dont think i allready have those??

[shut sand]

He interviewed a lot of people at big game companies

[autumn idol]

thats crazy you must not be a rogue player then

[shut sand]

He talked to Stan Lee

[stuck lodge]

Well actually it's only +7 to get mythic crests huh? That's maybe doable

[fallow canopy]

[thorn thorn]

Up to you to decide if this is photoshop or not

[fallow canopy]

I know its not

[autumn idol]

im unsure

[shut sand]

Oh no not jason hall that guy is a furry cuck

I mena Jace Hall

The OG hall

[balmy condor]

Delete this

[severe meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1446529922574188544/watermark.gif

[thorn thorn]

Y

[autumn idol]

aren't you the mod bro

do the work yourself

[balmy condor]

Lazy

[autumn idol]

ah gotcha

[thorn thorn]

Couldnt you delete it

[autumn idol]

@thorn thorn delete that

mod is tired

[thorn thorn]

Fine since you asked nicely whispyr ill delete it

[severe meadow]

Mod needs to get back in the sims mine

We need more damage

[shut sand]

This guy

[autumn idol]

we need more bugs

[frosty cedar]

get back to work ⛏️

[shut sand]

He famous video game producer

[balmy condor]

Mod is hungover getting out of bed after 4 hours of sleep to drag myself into like a fucking 12 hour stream for m+

[shut sand]

Did voice lines in some old games

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/self-control-discord-woof-gif-5847490406161346667

[severe meadow]

Real and true

[balmy condor]

You know, reasonable Tuesday activities

[fallow canopy]

hop on we have some algethars to grind

[autumn idol]

i slept 14 hours

are you jealous

[severe meadow]

Did y’all kill alleria?

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/prison-jail-bugs-bunny-prison-bugs-bunny-criminal-gif-4786919

[fallow canopy]

ye

[frosty briar]

[severe meadow]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZ211MnMzdHk0aWJ5NzN3eWYwYXBpdWx3b296cjJydjRvYTMyeTFkbiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zCHnEV6OQXQoZKEabT/giphy.gif

[viscid spear]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1484624630764273745/drops.png

[severe meadow]

We got a hit under 30%

[thorn thorn]

Start chugging the white monsters

[severe meadow]

Bit*

[fallow canopy]

[safe frigate]

I’M NOT FORCING ANYTHING

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/femboy-monster-monster-energy-programmer-programmer-socks-gif-6904147536657851464

[autumn idol]

Ayo

dont leak my photos

[stuck lodge]

Maybe the puzzle box change will help (casting it before dm) because it was feeling real bad to do Dm > puzzle, felt like it was sluggish to start

[severe meadow]

5k PoE hours..

Makes sense

[balmy condor]

OH BOY SERVER TIME

[frosty cedar]

not me in EU waiting until 4am tommorow

[golden loom]

gl with vault

[royal lantern]

eh, that doesnt really make a bigger difference

like, in numbers

dm->puzzlebox just feels really bad

[thorn thorn]

Mhmm mhmm mhmm

[severe meadow]

I’ve been doing PB into DM

Doesn’t feel quite as bad but probably coping

[royal lantern]

pb->dm or dm->pb is no difference in numbers really

[safe frigate]

M+ tonight after raid king?

[stuck lodge]

Yeah I just meant in terms of feel, although I guess it's also better now too

[fallow canopy]

ccan't wait to log in and see my vault is bugged yippie

[royal lantern]

thanks for beta testing once again NA homies

[balmy condor]

Sure

[safe frigate]

[fallow canopy]

vault was empty for like 10 secs until it loaded

[frosty cedar]

to have the balls to be on NA and open your vault within 5minutes of server starting

that is truly psychotic

[severe meadow]

Did you win

[fallow canopy]

not sure

have to sim

[sullen bramble]

anyone got any tips for ?? nemesis, i get absolutely slapped by his melee

255 ilvl

[severe meadow]

Just group for it

Go next

[plain thistle]

trinket and a 259 1/6 hero tier

[frosty cedar]

its not bad at all, just take the feint dmg reduction talent and go the raid cleave build

killed it in 3 pulls. you only need to have dps to kill the adds fast

oh and I guess the numbing poison

the second add set is the worst cause of the posion they do, try to kidney or blind adds casting poison, you can also cloak it

use feint when he is meleeing you with healer valeera and its fine

[fallow canopy]

well my WW also had a shit vault ggs

[plucky ember]

nope, this is a original blue monster family, you cant temp us with the strawberries

[broken jay]

Green monster ultra goes hard.

[red schooner]

Green monster my beloved. Although its never in stock near me

So I have to settle for white monster.

[broken jay]

White monster is the nectar of the gods, not a “settle”.

I’m new here, but how dare you!

[red schooner]

Its my second favourite, monster ultra paradise though? Glorious.

I like the sour. Give me the sour.

[autumn idol]

is it 5.5 or 5.6

i had to quit this season for wow

i had two more mirrors in me

[hazy sundial]

I present you, the worst possible vault of all time

[rugged basalt]

hold on let me cook

nvm.

[viscid spear]

Tier pants?

[stuck lodge]

Yeah tier pants I guess? They have crit haste iirc

[wraith knot]

Tier pants.. Hmm... checks Whispyr's guide for BiS gear .. I think he will want revenge.

(Jk it's prolly still better to get the tier legs for the 2p)

(or 4p)

[hazy sundial]

those are not tier pants

what do you mean

[hazy sundial]

wdym

[stuck lodge]

Oh, rip

[hazy sundial]

those are vers mastery pants from seat

[stuck lodge]

DE fodder vault

[rugged basalt]

theres a non zero chance to get tier piece from dungeon row tbf

[stuck lodge]

I'm hoping to get some tier from it, full clear normal and lfr for nothing last week

[plush oasis]

Yeah I just got actual tier pants in the dungeon row.

[wraith knot]

Wait dungeon row

What's dungeon row

Murderers row?

OH

Vault dungeon row

Gotcha

[stuck lodge]

Yeah I don't think the vault pulls from the pool of the content of the row does it? Otherwise delve would be trash

[errant briar]

are the loadouts in faq up to date with new sims?

[strange wolf]

it doesnt it just cares if you did the lvl.

[strange onyx]

@balmy condor

[plush oasis]

Now that you mention it, yeah I see a tier helm in my delve row too. Both have goddamn vers ugh.

[wraith knot]

Bruh now I'm scared af to look at mine after maintenance

Lmao

[empty cloud]

trincket chime champ bis or tier set for 2p?+

[wraith knot]

Emeranhado de Vinhas Vibrantes

Don't pick that I just think Spanish is hilarious

[empty cloud]

its portuguese xD

[wraith knot]

Lo siento

(I don't know how to say sorry in Portuguese so that's all you get)

[empty cloud]

DESCULPA

[wraith knot]

Bro don't scalp me wtf

[empty cloud]

i guess ill take the trincket, hard to take

[empty cloud]

im not, desculpas = sorry

❤️

[wraith knot]

Isn't tier piece super important for us

[warm vortex]

Portly geese?!?!?!

[wraith knot]

Port of Geese

https://giphy.com/gifs/LicorBeirao-lb-bandeira-lusa-Y4EjlthyBSY5Is89WW

[empty cloud]

i have this trincket, so idk

[bleak sedge]

Is Crucible trinket sim trap? It sims 1% better than Oozing vestige