assassination

[thorn thorn]

Cuz those are the only 2 that would justify sitting someone in heroic

[coral ibex]

ITS HEROIC MAN

[echo falcon]

Hey man i dont know how this shit works I haven't raided in retail in 2 expansions

[exotic hazel]

I'll never understand why people stay in guilds like this... Like you have people actually preventing you from playing the game and you're okay with it?

[echo falcon]

I've been a classic andy for a bit

[slate birch]

100% gquit and flame the leadership while ur at it for sitting people in heroic the fuck

[echo falcon]

Nah I'm having fun

[severe meadow]

Hey is your guild perchance HOF or

[frosty cedar]

What is my goat saying

[severe meadow]

because if not flame them and leave

[coral ibex]

welcome to retail, heroic is piss easy

if you get sat in heroic literally slur them as you gquit

wtf

[strange onyx]

he said quietly sitting on the bench on heroic week

[severe meadow]

Wifes boyfriend type shit

[exotic hazel]

Sounds like you could have just as much fun watching a youtube video of the raid

[frosty cedar]

If I was sat on HC I would bite a barrel immediately

[earnest remnant]

mm ST was buffed no?

[echo falcon]

lol

[subtle tundra]

yeah crazy

[earnest remnant]

hydra bug was fixed already and they buffed aimed shot

[balmy condor]

sad

[strange onyx]

Skooperton would not stand for such bullying he hates bullies! so mcuh especially chad (not real name of my bully) but he is angry

[earnest remnant]

real question is if they fixed the lunar storm bug

or not

thats what making the go crazy on paladins

[barren yew]

Are we back?

[primal parrot]

its over

[echo falcon]

No one cares about boss damage when there's 1000 adds that die in 2 seconds and pad numbers on a fight I guess? I dunno. I really enjoy assassination tho.

[coral ibex]

the correct form of the question is

BOOM or DOOM????

[elder estuary]

Hello, i have just right now dropped algetar secret box 😄 should i press it before apply dot or after ?
Scd question there is a world we should go 2 use trinket ? feather and box ? feather for 1 min KB and box for both ? idk what do you think about that ?

[primal parrot]

is snapshotting a thing in nu wow even

[strange onyx]

Its all about the boss dmg buddy

[coral ibex]

only improved garrote

[subtle tundra]

bro has damage total

[severe meadow]

[subtle tundra]

buddy swap to fucking dps

[coral ibex]

very good point

[exotic hazel]

Brackets are complicated for some people I agree

[coral ibex]

we should continue to monitor fartfarmer closely

[hardy rapids]

Wait is it really that good???????

[coral ibex]

relax pubert thats boss dam

[severe meadow]

Pubert.. Relax

[coral ibex]

im cracking up bro

[hardy rapids]

Is this not what we were dooming about

[coral ibex]

pubert

lmao

[primal parrot]

xd

[severe meadow]

tbf I don't know what the fuck we're dooming about

We get an aura buff when we're already doing sicko mode boss damage

[hardy rapids]

I thought we were dooming about our dmg

[strange onyx]

Dont let him know

[hardy rapids]

And it seems it’s good

[warm vortex]

If their spedc isn't number one and beating everything with minimal effort people mega doom

It's just how it is

and if it gets nerfed they also start whining

[lavish hazel]

cool 4% ahhahahahahahahahahahhahaha

[warm vortex]

at least as far as class discords go

[severe meadow]

It is good, we just don't do crazy burst pad

[warm vortex]

I mean they buffed marksman so what do i knwo

[hardy rapids]

I see

[normal mist]

Actually not bad 4% aura + AA

[subtle tundra]

so you guys get 4% + ~6% from 4p
sub gets 3% + 11% from 4p

[lavish hazel]

while they giving food to devourer and hunter hm

[subtle tundra]

guys

[warm vortex]

Tbh i was being kinda ironic

[subtle tundra]

i think its joever for you

[warm vortex]

By buff i mean in like

pure st

and there is like 1 pure st fight in the raid

But hydra is still probably ran due to the interaction with setinels mark

sad survival didn't get anything, and i feel as thougha 5% pet buff for BM isn't enough, but what can you do yknow?
I mainly just wanted bug fixes for SV so we could play the hero tree that does more damage instead of the one that does less damage

[signal karma]

weird I thought dev and ele were both big pumpers, but they got thick buffs

[velvet ridge]

i miss bleed build so much, whats the point of sudden demise existing if we dont even take it in M+

[frosty cedar]

Funny world content

Remember most ppl ain't touching raid or m+

[severe meadow]

I mean you can take it

[velvet ridge]

oh shit ok thx

[empty hinge]

aren't these buffs kinda shit and irrelevant

[severe meadow]

It's just not great

[ruby bolt]

congrats on the extra 1% buff boys LFG!

[signal karma]

I would sim this with my char but I've been told the sims fucking suck several times now, do we know the % of single target dps we lose for taking caustic, pbomb and tempest?

[drifting cloud]

[stark halo]

What addon is everyone using to track Implacable stacks? Is there a way to make the blizz default tracker actually track the stacks

[severe meadow]

none

[marble escarp]

im sorry thats it???

[severe meadow]

@balmy condor close the Discord down until we get a 20% aura buff and we're blowing everyone out of the water on boss damage

[balmy condor]

~3%

but that's not why sims suck

you can sim that fine

[polar sail]

Assa stats crit haste or crit mas?

[balmy condor]

sims suck cause the raid has zero patchwerk

[storm forum]

Crit > haste > mast >>> vers

[solar wyvern]

@balmy condor check the pins but how much of a % gain is this buff :^)

[balmy condor]

[strange onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fmNWcnfjqiPVSkk6BYsdXJ
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pTMcWu82HUskpPvJHrh1Uv

The numbers dont lie if we remove all the adds and make the fight a 5 minute fight sub wins

[waxen oyster]

i like how they just wrote the same shit

for all 3 specs

[solar wyvern]

WRONG

[waxen oyster]

but had to specify not buffing sub in pvp

[solar wyvern]

Does not apply to pvp

Oh fucm gg

Nsjdjwjdnw

Its over

[dapper oracle]

be glad you got mentioned at all this time

[minor anchor]

damn maybe we should make a post crying on reddit then they'd give UH level buffs too

[worn monolith]

4% aura buff because thinking about rogue is too hard

[signal karma]

That's pretty slick to have full aoe available to us for pennies in raid at least

[real pike]

Sometimes my genius is almost frightening

[echo heath]

Maybe rogues shouldn't have run the rogue dev out of the discord several years ago, we might be in a better spot

[empty hinge]

ChatGPT told me next tuning assassination would have the energy problems solved

I believe that 100%

[frosty cedar]

there are no problems in assa sing se

[warm vortex]

Whispyr

[frosty cedar]

your talking about an energy feature

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-aang-airbending-goofy-funny-gif-13514465

[stuck lodge]

guys im not getting invited to heroic dreamrift pugs

is this discrimination

will 4% save us

[violet spear]

no that's rogue

[stuck lodge]

but our raid buff

[sick edge]

Nah all you need is frost mages. If it stays as is I can see it being a class/spec they stack for the race

[night delta]

Mob spawns, a gazillion rays of frost converge on its location instantly

Mob is frozen solid until next patch drops

[errant swallow]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[lusty mountain]

just 4?

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sad-cry-gif-24016801

[thorn thorn]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[thorn thorn]

Sick

@severe meadow

[lusty mountain]

reading roug 4%

and just below sham is just like

WHATEVER SPELL ì̵̱̣͕n̵̖̪̘͗c̸͉̏͑̑r̷̺̭͋ͅë̸̯͑̕ā̷̠̒͝s̷ed dam͓̊̽̊a̷̦̍͋̇g̴̉̽e̜ ̶͔̥̾b̴̙͊̔y̷ 4ͅ0̷̬̹̂̏0̴͂000̼́̀͝0̸̖̍͆͠%̴̥͆͑
WHATEVER SPELL 2 ì̵̱̣͕n̵̖̪̘͗c̸͉̏͑̑r̷̺̭͋ͅë̸̯͑̕ā̷̠̒͝sed ̴̘̈́͘̚d̸̹͊a̴̖͋̌m̷̊ag̴̜̉̽́e̵͌͛ by ͓̎̿80̷̬̹̂̏0̴̥͂͂0̷̲̲͑͒0̸̙̥̫̂00%

[stray ivy]

What is the DPS loss of obr

[balmy condor]

the sham buffs are like 5-8%

[flint tusk]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[flint tusk]

Just thought i'd do this in case Whispyr needed the info again

[lusty mountain]

mr whispyr do you believe in the "we’re planning to make adjustments that address a few outliers"?

i mean i'll take the 4% happy

[thorn thorn]

Please refer to the image above

[lusty mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/quinn-dog-quinn-dog-gif-22355715

[night delta]

Always like the boss damage angle when talking to raid leaders, because that way I can justify ranting about padding and how pointless it is that they require everyone to switch adds when it dies in 4 seconds anyway

[balmy condor]

isn't that what they just did

[thorn thorn]

mfw a dot spec cant pad on adds that blow up a fury warrior havoc dh or mm hunter literally looks at them

[lusty mountain]

so we can expect no (more) changes

[stray ivy]

Is sin at least good in m+. I loved it in legion last time I played

[night delta]

In m0s a dh and DEvoker friendly asked me why I didn't do damage on the "lots of little shits" packs

Like uh, guys

You blow them up in 2 seconds

[stiff garden]

Is there a reason why the guide prefers Berserkers Rage? My sim prefers Acuity

[night delta]

IMMA DOT SPEC

[minor gate]

all i wanted was a tempest energy reduction

[night delta]

I think it warrants a dmg reduction along a small energy reduction

[lone pasture]

I heard rogue is fotm now

[night delta]

Like -50% dmg, -10 energy cost

[minor gate]

i would love that

i just dont want to bottom just to get bleeds on like 4 enemies

[royal lantern]

because it takes one of the 2000 different "bis" armor setups, and for that one berserkers rage simmed better

just sim the enchants and use your result

if it says double acuity, use double acuity

[night delta]

Currently it's exhausting whenever there's a big pull to sink all your tea charges immediately to spread your bleeds

[minor gate]

like what do you think i am, bri'ish

(i am bri'ish)

[royal lantern]

im sorry for you

[thorn thorn]

Bad spawn rng

[lone pasture]

have u had real food yet tho

[thorn thorn]

Unfortunate

[night delta]

Thistle tea renamed "a li-le bo-le of wa-er"

[thorn thorn]

I had a stroke reading that

[balmy condor]

you mean a cuppa

[lone pasture]

cuppa

[minor gate]

https://klipy.com/gifs/tf2-24

[past bobcat]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[past bobcat]

Haha

[crisp sluice]

Is there any like specific thing we should be doing rotation wise on fate? or do we literally just kingsbane>DM>slam 5CP+ envenoms and hope to the RNG gods for big crit envenoms

my damage is so on and off between pulls and it seems its just RNGods rn

[night delta]

DM before KB, no ?

[crisp sluice]

I thought we were supposed to KB for something about lucky coin etc but maybe wrong

[balmy condor]

[night delta]

Fatebound you mostly don't think about optimizing coins at all

It's casino anyway

[royal lantern]

what can you even optimze with them

(well, except stop being a loser and just flipping good)

[balmy condor]

you could in theory pool for the capstone

which is like 50+% uptime already

and it's unclear to me how you would do that

[crisp sluice]

yeah I mean, im just getting to 80 on implacable, letting envenom fall off, and spamming 5cP envenoms

[balmy condor]

yep, that sounds like the rotation

[wintry vapor]

Isn't it better to DM first because it has better interactions with Kingsbane's poison stack mechanic?

[balmy condor]

yes

[wintry vapor]

Also the damage buff obviously

Ah, hey, I understood something

Nice

[balmy condor]

mostly just not wasting time on kingsbane

and the fact that the deathmark gcd

[royal lantern]

could not be me

[balmy condor]

is pretty much pointless

[night delta]

And durations overlap better in this order

[balmy condor]

that part doesn't really matter

[night delta]

Man I wanted to sound smart for once

[balmy condor]

aside from maybe making your brain feel better seeing the dots end at the same time

but like, no shiv window and deathmark doesn't add lethal dose stacks anymore

[wintry vapor]

You are a Tauren from space, you do not have to prove your wisdom to mere mortals

[balmy condor]

so there's not actually a reason why they would need to overlap

[night delta]

If there was a machine gun plate armor spec i'd switch in a heartbeat

Tauren tinker -> new main

[balmy condor]

technically pressing dm and just hitting buttons for like half the duration of dm

and then hitting kingsbane

should be the same damage

[arctic hare]

I mean, 4% aura buff

buffs everything, including caustic spatter

[royal lantern]

4% buff is 4% buff

[arctic hare]

so our cleave is better than it was before

[spice surge]

Everything is 4% stronger yes

It does not double dip with caustic

[radiant basin]

did they fix the bug though for apex talent tracking

[arctic hare]

maybe not

but hey, i'll take more aoe and ST any day

[night delta]

Gotta love cleaving 4% more on things that die before our bleeds tick a third time on it

Good for m+ though

[stiff garden]

4% Aura is actually crazy good.
2-set now 34% garrote damage increase
4-set now 29% dmg increase
Finish the job now increases damage by 14%

All in all pretty sweet deal

[strange onyx]

I keep deathmarking the small adds on accident (scruffy mouseover macro) this tier and then they all die so fast. Wish there was a talent that would let us transfer our Deathmark when the add died

[radiant basin]

just lock in

[night delta]

[night delta]

It being a talent is goddamn offensive imho

[royal lantern]

mate, thats kinda not how it works

[night delta]

Like "here's a talent that's just here to help out when you fuck up"

[strange onyx]

What you mean? You mean my macro? Just an old habit

[fleet whale]

Tbh, assassination has never really been a spec that blows up small adds quickly. It’s just never been a strength

[night delta]

Nah i mean the future deathmark jump talent

[royal lantern]

sudden demise?

[dusty widget]

quick question: how do i properly sim for sin rogue? is it just dungeon slice or specific settings?

[strange onyx]

What?!?

[balmy condor]

patchwerk 1t 5min for raid, dungeonslice for m+

[dusty widget]

thanks

[night delta]

Let demise proc from 100% hp and now we're talking

CT, mob instantly blows up

[royal lantern]

thats called glacial spike

[fleet whale]

Demise helped greatly in lower keys, but it didn’t necessarily help assassin’s target swapping abilities

[night delta]

12.0.5 patch talent, makes deathmark jump around on death

Absolutely gadget and an affront to make it a talent imo

Basically only use is if you fuck up completely (and the random target jump is a coin toss)

[strange onyx]

That’s actually crazy. My prayers have been heard

[strange onyx]

Wish we could decide what target our deathmark goes on

[night delta]

Or when things die very quick and that means it's pointless anyway because your group outdpses completely

The damage buff should be a buff amp on us, straight up baseline

[minor gate]

is there any other class/spec thats major cooldown is put on the target rather than a buff or big attack

[night delta]

Dunno but my guess would be either no or very few

[strange onyx]

Secret Technique

[fleet whale]

I could see this talent being placed right behind a mandatory talent, thus making it “baseline”

[minor gate]

isnt secret technique shadow clones

[night delta]

That would be a straight up insult if they made it so we had to path through

Taking a talent point away from things we actually use and want rn

[minor gate]

like yes any spec can waste a cooldown but deathmark is valued based on how long the target stays alive

same with kingsbane

[thorn thorn]

Aug, Assa, Deathbringer dk technically counts

Every other cd is either a buff, a pet or some mixture of both

[minor gate]

aug evoker?

[thorn thorn]

yes

breath of eons is a debuff applied to enemies

[minor gate]

ah

[night delta]

I mean in any meaningful content we'd just not DM/KB something that dies too quick

It's just that rn we're plowing through m0s and shit

[thorn thorn]

Dieing too soon isnt a problem specific to assa

Its a major issue of why breath of eons is shit in low content because 90% of the time the pack will die before it even pops

I dont think its the same for deathbringer on that front but deathbringer is both short duration and quick to stack

Its also just kind of a whatever issue

assa isnt the only spec that gets to roleplay being useless in low content

Shadow as well gets that treatment

[night delta]

That's why I dislike the DM talent coming our way

[thorn thorn]

Its just kinda weird

[night delta]

I just feel like devs will pretend its a buff

[minor gate]

thats a crazy line

[polar sail]

Assa i think will be good in high keys adds dont die fast just bleed them and posion them

[minor gate]

"roleplay being useless"

[night delta]

Posibly shoving that down our throats

[stray ivy]

So what now I really wanted to play sin, but I heard it's dog shit

[thorn thorn]

assa not actually useless in low content

But your cds def wont get full value

[sharp bramble]

hey guys. how much is a gem slot worth in gs? got an gem slot on my fully upgraded veteran waist and dunno if i should equip the champion waist

[thorn thorn]

Not with dev evokers and frost mages deleting every pack instantly

[polar sail]

Thats what i am saying in m+ high key we eating good

[minor gate]

not that, just a hilarious thing to say on anything

[stray ivy]

Mm too right

[thorn thorn]

ye

[thorn thorn]

pretty much anything that isnt another dot or ramp spec

[stray ivy]

But at least mm is being nerfed

Hydra bullshit

[normal mist]

www.raidbots.com

[warm vortex]

No, not really

[night delta]

That's why I like demise conceptually

[warm vortex]

It’s still going to be insane and super played
The double sentinels mark application was the main draw, and that’s still a thing

[night delta]

We can cuck other dpses out of up to 30% of their dmg

(More like 10% in practice but still)

[warm vortex]

If aimed shot didn’t get buffed I’d agree, but for some fucking reason they buffed aimed shot aswell

So it’s still probably like top 5 specs in the game

[sullen bramble]

does it matter which hand an enchant is on? e..g wowhead says put x on mainhand. does it make any difference if it's on offhand?

[night delta]

Enchants are usually on a ppm basis I think ?

[balmy condor]

no difference

[night delta]

So yeah, this

[warped moon]

im get stronger 🙂 4%

[sharp bramble]

ok just sim it. but another question. is there an eta on bloodmallet adding the assa page?

[warm vortex]

Haven’t people ranked MM at like Uber shit tier in pre season for the last like 3 tiers when it becomes nutty during it

[balmy condor]

if I'm feeling like it, tomorrow

if I'm not feeling like it, later than that

[sharp bramble]

❤️

[night delta]

Very in-depth, detailed and precise statement by whispyr yet again

[thorn thorn]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[storm forum]

Never, got it

[hazy sundial]

If im super low on haste should i use haste proc enchant on weap or primary stat

Im just gonna sim it nvm

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/pet-dog-gif-1353073961338598642

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-clap-applause-standing-ovation-gif-15648815

[loud niche]

Yo 4% aura buff!

[robust pulsar]

Yay, aura buffs

[solar wyvern]

Breaking news: Rogue thinks for themselves!!! First time in history

[warm vortex]

Can you do this to me

No reason

[night delta]

I'd argue semantics, simming yourself is not entirely thinking for themselves

Going by feelscraft is the only truly independent course of action

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/mouse-cute-rat-rub-tiny-gif-23671665

[versed mica]

Whispyr posting Psychostick is

[pliant remnant]

silence, theorycrafter

a feelycrafter is talking

[warm vortex]

:D!

[pliant remnant]

https://giphy.com/gifs/danganronpa-chiikawa-sikabhu-w8HSLGPNjOvMpkeq7z

[warm vortex]

Nooo

Wait

I know who can save him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZYm3sLuvwY

[solar wyvern]

#assassination message

Youre right

[hazy sundial]

Aura buffs are so lazy

[warm vortex]

How about this

[hazy sundial]

They can’t be bothered to look deeper into spec so they just slam 4% on top of it

[warm vortex]

Aura needs

[hazy sundial]

But still better than nothing i guess

[warm vortex]

Because Assa boss damage is too high so they need a nerf

Totally

[night delta]

Into a class*

[hazy sundial]

True

[night delta]

3 specs, each the exact same buff

[warm vortex]

Uhm

Acktually

[night delta]

That's just the pvp team butting in after the fact

[warm vortex]

I know I’m just being an asshole

[night delta]

[warm vortex]

Cause sub was buffed 1% less

So technically it wasn’t the same

I’m just coping with no sv buffs

[night delta]

I just wish they made deathstalker mark movable man

I wanted to play that and the execution not sucking balls

If they wanna push the ST focus angle just make chaining on the same target a debuff on it that dmg amps or something, just stop bullying us

[split lily]

hey gang how do I maximize valeera damage output

[royal lantern]

level her

[civic trellis]

level her to 1 billion

[royal lantern]

but as a dps she should be healer anyway

[split lily]

what about her superpowers

[civic trellis]

crit blade thing and edict

[split lily]

Ive seen valeera do disgusting dmg

[civic trellis]

if you mean curios

[split lily]

ye them

[civic trellis]

holy sheet for delve min max(not mine just stole)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hv8huds5AihQEuKsINplol7QNpDy1g6n/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=112438409338625854436&rtpof=true&sd=true

mandate was its name
but is bugged so blade tip and void spire

[fair wharf]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[stuck lodge]

this is going to be meaningless because I don't think I can pull up any logs (because we didn't kill it and I dropped so they had a chance) but my dps on H dreamrift was terrible

like 33k

and idk what I was doing wrong and its frustrating and that is all

but pretty sure way no way to like see it right?

[versed saddle]

Goodnews tho. Tuesday Assassin gets a 4% dmg increase to all abilities and melee dmg.

[stuck lodge]

I don't think its necessarily an ass problem in this case

[versed saddle]

Can always take the Single Button Rotation and put it off to the side and hit the abilities it shows to avoid the CD increase. See if that helps your DPS.

Smack a training dummy and see what happens compared to what you normally do go rotation.

[severe meadow]

Wipes are still logged

Just need to know who was logging lol

[stuck lodge]

Right, but it was a pug so probably no one

[severe meadow]

you never know

[stuck lodge]

can I log my own for the future?

[severe meadow]

for sure

[stuck lodge]

how do I do that

[sand elm]

is it me or does having to use envenom before puzzle trinket feel really tight on timing in the opener

[warped moon]

theres times where i should eat a stack of deathstalkers mark but it does not eat and i get so confused 🙁

it goes on the mobs, i get my 5 little guys, i do my finisher, and it is still at 3

[radiant aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-drop-it-like-its-hot-4number-four-fingers-calvin-broadus-jr-gif-26215289

4 gang where u at

https://giphy.com/gifs/rukaateto-rukaateto00-kid-patrick-1VAhClIh0Tkz1XvLtF

[severe meadow]

That's why me and the homies play FB

[severe meadow]

whats your opener

[warped moon]

maybe i will

i want deathstalker to be cool though 🙁

[severe meadow]

Yeah unfortunately Blizzard likes making the mark cringe

[lyric parcel]

Question... I have never played rogue before Midnight and chose rogue as my main after Lemix. Currently ilvl with 250 and 2p. Should I just switch to Sub for raid? Everything I have been reading says sub is outperforming and my guild wants AotC by next week

[sand elm]

im using the one on the wowhead guide
its just when u use envenom, then cast puzzle, u have like 1-sub 1 second to get that 2nd envenom in

[severe meadow]

You can DM and then PB

[sand elm]

thatd still have the same problem

[severe meadow]

Prob feel janky either way, but

Can do a funky cast sequence thing or just not use it xd

As in replace it

[sand elm]

oh i am. im doing it. it just feels really tight timing

if only they removed that fucking annoying cast time off puzzle box

[severe meadow]

I would just like to be able to move during the cast tbh

[sand elm]

would be nice

[limber creek]

even if it's so strong they feel the need to have 2 seconds of delay they could just make it instant and ramp up or add the stats 2s after you press it it's just so annoying to have a cast timer as melee lol

[low hare]

idk if its just a blizzard nameplate buff issue, but im noticing when i tempest, it often removes the improved garrote, and replaces it with regular garrote?

is that reflected in the numbers or is just debuff icon fuckery? @balmy condor

i should specify, it removes on the main target as well, even on openers when i havent put out a 2nd garrote

[sand elm]

nameplates are fucky with CT bleeds ive noticed

just in general

[low hare]

yea i just wonder, if its reflected in the actual numbers

[sand elm]

considering how busted most stuff still is, would guess no

but dont actually know

[low hare]

yea i wish i had time to look into it more, i just notice, our damage output is low, and that looks odd to me

[stuck lodge]

I can't find it with a quick search, whats the puzzle box usage?

[prisma kestrel]

2 sec channel for a bunch of Mastery

which Mastery increases Poison and Bleed DMG

[drifting cloud]

dm, puzzle, kb

[stuck lodge]

I meant the order, perfect thanks

[balmy condor]

that's just the debuff icon because you're not in the imp gar window anymore

[gray raven]

whisp you feel like 4% is enough? was expecting a lot more tbh

[balmy condor]

yuh

[gray raven]

guess i'll wait for 4 piece to see but it feels really far behind sub

[split veldt]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[split veldt]

[gray raven]

lol fair enough

[signal karma]

bunch of 99 and 97-98 parses for normie raid as sin, hell yeah

check fight, only 9 people parsed assass at my ilvl

nvm all the big boys are just in heroic

[polar bridge]

Can someone explain to me how did devourer who is several % ahead of assa get a 3% aura buff with two large targeted buffs and assa got only a 4% buff??

[prime anchor]

they need to add more before reset to assa

[balmy condor]

Sure, so devourer was middle of the back overall and in aoe, but their single target was really bad, so they got a single target buff, assassination is behind in aoe partly because it’s heroic, but we’re really good in boss damage, so we just got an overall buff

[timid stratus]

whispyr valiantly holding the door against the hordes of rogue doomers

[zinc frost]

Dooming over nothing - the standard

[timid stratus]

def the standard for wow plagers

[balmy condor]

I mean it’s not like blizzard is just making random changes, they look at data and make corrections all the same, usually just have to think about it and actually understand context

Which uh

Yeah

How could that be true when other people bigger number us smaller number

[mortal drum]

Am I reading in to this like an idiot or is the 4% to everything add up to more than 4% total increase?

Like 4% to all abilities and melee attacks is more than just "rogue does 4% increased damage"

[balmy condor]

It’s less than 4% actually

Cause like embellishments and trinkets technically

Currently at least our bis trinkets are stats so that’s not necessarily true

[mortal drum]

Ok but otherwise it is just a face value 4% right

[balmy condor]

But if you had a trinket that did flat damage, like the insignia thing

Yeh, outside of damage effects it would be 4%

[devout cove]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-drooling-patrick-star-spongebob-movie-drooling-slime-gif-525340425450564005

Knife stab poison bleed

[mortal drum]

Me being stunlocked by a single digit number

[devout cove]

I’m losing my mind

Why is shadow step so fucked

I shadow stepped through the floor

[balmy condor]

There’s a lot of quirks with tuning notes to be fair

[sand elm]

i shadowstepped on the first platform of skyreach and it put me at the bottom of the cliff

[balmy condor]

So makes sense

Game is confusing

[devout cove]

Also I’m so pissed that implacable doesn’t get tracked properly

I’m going to get a job a blizzard and nerf assassination rogue

[timid stratus]

its good to have goals

[cunning needle]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[errant swallow]

We still behind sub huh

[storm forum]

I'm in "only boss damage really matters" cope mode

[errant swallow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/culture--think-hmm-d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY

[hollow mesa]

top gear is the two trinkets swapped..... iv simmed 3 times, the 3 sims claim 1.2 1.2 and 1.3% increase.

is there some differance in slot 1 and 2 for trinkets now? lol

[flint marsh]

aren’t they both on use trinkets

so its using them in a different order?

[waxen oyster]

Yeah why tf would you play double on use

[hollow mesa]

I guess that must be what its doing

[hollow mesa]

unlucky lol

[waxen oyster]

renown trinket from voidstorm

[hollow mesa]

while that trinket with Puzzlebox, is 1.4% better. i wasent sure just equiping it gave full value, idk if i need to mess with that void consol in void storm.

I just dont understand/havent looked into that trinket

[waxen oyster]

You need the console buffs yes

[hollow mesa]

Yeah i havent done anything with that

[arctic tusk]

is that not open world only

voidstorm

[waxen oyster]

its 20s if you have all the console buffs

[arctic tusk]

only in open world or in the raid?

[waxen oyster]

anywhere

the open world buff is a seperate one

[balmy condor]

Slot 1 (the left) is used first

[signal karma]

sims are so fucking certain the renown trinket kicks ass that i can't find anything to replace it outside of the S tier stuff that hasn't dropped lmao, is crucible of erratic energies actually good

[balmy condor]

It’s okay yeah

[signal karma]

works for me, just strange to not swap trinkets since like day 2

[halcyon crypt]

one more buuf and e we are ready to be respected

[signal karma]

apologies if i missed this on the wowhead guide i checked for it but do we ignore our implacable stacks during deathmark/kingsbane windows, even if we're not energy flooded from lust/huge aoe? not dumping envenoms just to pool there for 3-4 seconds intuitively feels like a giga mistake

[sand elm]

ive kept going until at least deathmark runs off
the timing tends to line up with when ur reapplying rupture u can just let the buff run out to trigger the energy regen

[waxen oyster]

its like an 80% uptime trinket

so yeah its quite decent

[balmy condor]

There’s a section at the bottom regarding implacable as an advanced note, in general, yes

If you’re going to overcap energy by dropping implacable

Then you’re wasting it anyway

So just slam

[warped heath]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[sand elm]

is it better to use vanish to extend improved garrote in the opener then have it not align with subsequent deathmark or not use it in the opener so it always lines up with deathmark?

[signal karma]

i'm referring to not overcapping but like

[balmy condor]

The former

[signal karma]

lets say deathmark has 6 seconds on it and you have the energy to pool if you felt like it, or you could keep spamming to 0 energy through 80 implacable to get value out of the deathmark amp

[balmy condor]

Generally improved garrote is a small enough of an impact to where timing it with fight specific add spawns or damage amps will be worth more

It’s like a 1.8% talent atm

[balmy condor]

No

[sand elm]

so unless theres specific adds that would be more beneficial, just burn it on cd after the opener?

[balmy condor]

If you can drop for implacable you would

[balmy condor]

Correct

[sand elm]

gotcha ty!

[signal karma]

No to which one

No don't pool or no don't spam

[balmy condor]

^

[signal karma]

ah apologies missed that, feels strange to just pause shit during the burst window

[balmy condor]

You’re either at a high enough energy intake to where you can’t drop it without wasting resources

Or you’re dropping it

[balmy condor]

Yeah the thing is your burst isn’t actually reliant on you having energy

[signal karma]

yeah for like poison app and bleed damage I get that, i just assumed the 10% amp for 'while deathmark is active' would have more weight than a few implacable stacks wasted

[balmy condor]

10% ain’t really shit at the end of the day

And it’s still buffing kingsbane/bleeds/poisons

Without you doing anything

But like, this is also context dependent right

If you’re deathmarking like idk, the big chimaerus add

Probably not a great idea to sit there waiting for implacable to drop

[signal karma]

yeah the fight specific sensibility are generally pretty chill, just was wondering about purely the math in a vacuum

[sand elm]

it curious how there seems to be a split between inspiring strike and poisoners drive

[balmy condor]

Poisoners drive was better until sim updates like 1.5 weeks ago

Probably just people using old talents

Same way people aren’t envenoming before deathmark

[sand elm]

ive been using drive just for ease of use
feels bad when u have to muti 3 times

[balmy condor]

Yeah I mean it feels better

Talent kinda sucks though

[sand elm]

how big is the gap between them?
if u know off the top of ur head

[balmy condor]

Like 1.5?

[sand elm]

so not a huuuge amount then

[balmy condor]

1.5% is roughly also just untalenting improved garrote and taking nothing with that point

[rotund oak]

20k hours on maple is wild,get a life lmao

[balmy condor]

Or 1.5% is also roughly what you lose by completely ignoring the apex energy buff

[balmy condor]

It’s legit like 80% afk

[rotund oak]

yup,i had the chance to mock you though

ill take that

[wise plover]

whats the diff% just slamming energy on CD and not playing around apex?

[balmy condor]

1.5%

[wise plover]

ty, and even tho it breaks my ui. once i gain the apex buff i can send my next env right? i dont have to wait for the apex to finish

[balmy condor]

Correct

[wise plover]

ty ty

[balmy condor]

Np

[dapper halo]

finally, buffs

but, i also switched to sub, oh its also getting buffs

neato!

sub is so simple now

as heresy as it sounds, sub.. kinda flows better, its more "instant gratification"

[rotund oak]

yes sub feels amazing

[floral iron]

Feels good in group, kinda gross in open world

[dapper halo]

it has its wet noodle moments

[normal mist]

Just swap in open world to outlaw or assa and problem fixed!

[dapper halo]

also: no dot babysitting

[waxen oyster]

you literally kill most open world thing in a dance

[normal mist]

What if I've 2 left feet?

I can't dance

[dapper halo]

its ok, wow takes care of your special needs

andreplaces one ofthe feet with afunctional one

and then even you can dance

https://tenor.com/view/abba-dancing-queen-see-that-girl-watch-that-scene-diggin-the-dancing-queen-gif-17906227

[jolly stirrup]

Wait so all ability damage got a 4% buff, so CT hits even more like a truck now?

[analog hedge]

am i dreaming

WE ARE BUFFED?

🔥

[willow garden]

You ll deal 41.5k instead of 40k while some ranged classes or dh casually hit 80k

[balmy condor]

if you're dealing 40k you got bigger issues than a 4% buff to be fair

[willow garden]

Right my bad, i should be dealing 100k dmg at 235ilvl My bad

[balmy condor]

2....35?

I mean okay, then maybe you're dealing 40k

[waxen oyster]

dh is a ranged class

[marble wadi]

he strikes again

@balmy condor call the ban hammer

[balmy condor]

!ban @crystal mesaspam

[marble wadi]

just played sin in a m0 with some gearing alts ngl assa pumps in m+ when fight lasts more than a minute

[warm vortex]

Easy
Get a standing desk with a treadmill while you play wow

Now your going places both irl and on wow

[haughty flicker]

banger thumbnail

[dapper halo]

yeah that seems to be the key, longer fights, assa ramps up so long that it looks really bad currently

"why arent you pumping as hard as that arcane mage" bruh

[sick marsh]

hi basic question cuz i didnt play assa since the launch of midnight. Do we use vanish+garrote during our first deathmark or we wait our second cycle ?

[balmy condor]

on cd generally or synced with a fight mechanic like an add wave

[sick marsh]

ok ty

[balmy condor]

my pleasure

[sick marsh]

so its not synced with DM

unless specific meca

[balmy condor]

correct

[sick marsh]

ty !

[jolly stirrup]

As a former Jhin Main, I approve of this buff and thumbnail

[jolly stirrup]

Also you cant make me touch grass, fresh air can be done

[balmy condor]

immer schön lüften

[trim night]

hey @balmy condor Just watched ur vid. good one btw! Um u focused on Boss damage and what this buff means in that case as well as how quick adds die in raids.

But as a M+ main does this buff does enough for Rogue there? in a sense of pushing to like 2.8 - 3k? whats ur thoughts on that?

[balmy condor]

in m+ rogue specs were already good at least from beta, but there's also just way too much tuning that happened between beta and now

so, we'll just have to see I guess

3k should be a breeze regardless

[trim night]

i see, thanks mate

[balmy condor]

np

[sinful verge]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[distant plinth]

4% of 0 is still 0

[mortal thunder]

can i find somewhere the right Talentbuild for each boss? When I look at the logs, everyone in the top 100 is playing something different.My logs with the normal talent build were really bad, now I'm wondering if it was really only due to the build.

(the best simmed Talentbuild)

[balmy condor]

the top 100 are playing a bunch of different stuff because assassination just has a bunch of talents that are very similar in value or not impactful

taking talent A that's +2% verus talent B that's +1.8% versus talent C that's +2.1%

just isn't impactful

[mortal thunder]

hm, okay

[strange onyx]

Just grab the raid cleave build from wowhead

[mortal thunder]

i played with it on sec, hc boss^^

2nd*

[strange onyx]

Then you don’t have to «worry» about improved garrote and vanish

On 2nd boss I ran the ST build tbh, maybe a mistake in hindsight

[balmy condor]

bro hitting the fucking wingdings

wtf is <<this shit>>

how do you even do that

[strange onyx]

The world is big americaboi

«Wouldn’t you like to know»

[balmy condor]

you just hate me cause I'm a bad person

[mortal thunder]

maybe i just played bad

[strange onyx]

I guard a treasure you will never get «a good community perception of assassination rogue»

[strange onyx]

Send log

[mortal thunder]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xyCr97PNpRqg621v?fight=last&type=damage-done

but i played in Raid cleave from wow head.

[strange onyx]

No shaman buff is kinda yikes

[strange onyx]

Am I stupid or can you not find Implacable in logs?

[mortal thunder]

idk

[balmy condor]

those are not mutually exclusive

(it's all the way at the bottom under uncategorized)

[strange onyx]

You have truth in your words

[strange onyx]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Cg31RBQVdpFnG8t2?fight=43&type=damage-done&source=62
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xyCr97PNpRqg621v?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=30

Melee more

[mortal thunder]

ok, so thats easy to handle 🙂

thanks

[strange onyx]

I don't see any other glaring issues (before my morning coffee)

[mortal thunder]

maybe envonom uptime?

[strange onyx]

Try to DM before KB aswell

[mortal thunder]

thanks a lot for your time.

[strange onyx]

Nw, didnt help much but yeah

Get a shaman

[mortal thunder]

thanks:= have a great day

[static glacier]

Stuck in work on a Saturday

[jolly stirrup]

You and me both

Tomorrow also

But then vacation

[spiral mist]

is it possible to just track the stack from apex in cdm?

[stiff garden]

Has anyone compared caustic spatter and improved garrote in m+ (m0s)?

[inner shard]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[balmy condor]

why is that a comparison?

you take both

[stiff garden]

Thanks, I misread the build

[balmy condor]

no worries

[marble wadi]

how much does sin hate vers it feels really soft comapred to other rouge specs

[balmy condor]

vers sucks pretty bad

[haughty flicker]

it just like me fr

[marble wadi]

is there any way to sneak deadened nerves for higher key what could we drop for it

[strange onyx]

Then why did you pop vantus rune? HMM

drop Featherfoot

[balmy condor]

or toxic stiletto

works too

[strange onyx]

or toxic stilletto if u play fb

damn

[marble wadi]

thank you kindly

how much is ds behind in aoe compared to fb

[balmy condor]

ds is ahead by a couple percent

[strange onyx]

but you gonna fumble your mark and be behind by a couple percent

[marble wadi]

ye but i can pop evasion for 20%dr and 15% mdr

more alive more deeps

[balmy condor]

cope

[marble wadi]

[strange onyx]

Atleast you tried to make a point

[marble wadi]

i tried my best it was my strongest argument

[vivid fog]

Hello, Noob assassination question

With dragon-tempered blades

[balmy condor]

doesn't matter

[vivid fog]

which is the better main poison

[balmy condor]

it's a global reduction

[vivid fog]

ah

[strange onyx]

Time

Thats the fastest you have ever responded Whispyr

[balmy condor]

I got the spidey tingle

felt my balls vibrating

knew it was coming

[strange onyx]

Anytime Whispyr answers a common reoccuring question in here a hair on his head gets bluer

[vivid fog]

the wording on the talent is super weird, I would have assumed it meant the second application

[warm vortex]

What if instead of dragon tempered blades it was dragon tempered balls and instead of coating your weapons it coated your balls

[balmy condor]

yeah could you imagine

the absolute fucking jank

of having to pick which poison you're saccing

shit, lost damage cause I reapplied my poisons halfway through raid in the wrong order

[vivid fog]

just sacc both instead? :>

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah but that's because how the talent is balanced, not because you're refreshing the buff

[warm vortex]

Genuinely wouldn’t surprise me with assassination

Shoutout to exsanguinate code

[strange onyx]

I think the bleed build goobers would love it if Dragon Tempered Blades had an addtional note that made it so your poisons are now bleeds and you apply bleeds to your weapons (they do the exact same, but they are red and called bleeds now)

[golden loom]

everyones favorite talent.. dark brew

[warm vortex]

Caustic spatter but it effects bleeds

[vivid fog]

BTW, why is Wowhead not available in Turkey? it's so annoying since moving here :(

[balmy condor]

a mixture of government regulations and low viewership

not worth doing business in turkey

[warm vortex]

Whispyr

[vivid fog]

Fair i guess

just a massive pain

[static glacier]

Out here finding ancient artifacts and exploring catacombs zzz

[real pike]

Try being in the UK

Rather have no wowhead access than no hardcore pornography

[balmy condor]

No thanks

[real pike]

Assuming you don't live in America

To be saying that

[balmy condor]

[crisp pine]

I was in London once for like 2 hours and I cried

[balmy condor]

My experience with the UK has been Heathrow international airport and it’s the biggest piece of shit airport I’ve ever stepped foot in

[vivid fog]

No porn in turkey either

[balmy condor]

I’ve been informed the rest of the country is basically the same

[crisp pine]

holy fuck yes

[vivid fog]

but you can easily pop a VPN on when you want a spank sesh

[jolly stirrup]

Nice try

Nevermind, same result

Good job then

[jolly stirrup]

You work in a museum?

[royal lantern]

my experience with the UK has been doing measurements in London for Work related stuff, and the bluecollar guys there where heckling my coworker for having a heavy accent

[strange onyx]

The America of the EU

[nocturne mantle]

So as spec stands right now , is assa viable for the coming m+ week or keep playing sub until march 30 🙏 for another 4% 🤣

[sharp viper]

IRL delve enjoyer

[frosty cedar]

nah london is cooked bro its aite outside of it

[runic hinge]

depends on what you mean by viable but tbh assa has felt better to me in dungeons than sub, but maybe i dont love 2 button spam

[strange onyx]

Assa is good, go next

[frosty cedar]

instead its 3 button spam omegalul

[strange onyx]

Sub is front loaded, Assa is back loaded. Big bunda Assa

[crisp pine]

assa has a huge ass indeed

[nocturne mantle]

Ya, burst padding while dance is bis then u fall like a rock 🤣

[nocturne mantle]

Better be.. coz sublety while is made for low attention span def felt more rewarding in m0 , hopefully mobs taking longer to die will help assa in aoe.

[royal lantern]

huge bottoms

[strange onyx]

Like do you guys not spread improved garrote on everything? I absolutely smoke packs in m0

I am starting to believe most people just suck at assa

[crisp pine]

I am not smoking packs but it feels alright

[sinful verge]

Sudden demise build nukes m0

[rotund oak]

its details cheesing

its whatever

no one cares

time the key

[strange onyx]

I dont run Sudden demise

[rotund oak]

technically i dont either,but im not playing ym rogue atm

[static glacier]

Even better, a massive law firm, tons of gaudy shit everywhere - we have two underground floors and four above ground

[royal lantern]

wait, did they fix the apex talent not working with the CDM

like, the bug where it turned off

[humble verge]

outlaw time lads

[royal lantern]

nvmd, still broken

[warm vortex]

What u play

[haughty flicker]

probably something ugly

mage enjoyer or something like that

i can feel it

[subtle tundra]

so assa does no aoe and doesnt try to aoe and everyone else tries to aoe -> assa does st and others do less

woah assa so good at st

yeah cope city

[crisp pine]

what

[fluid oak]

I’ve just woken up, I have to say I was expecting something more than just a +4 aura buff (other rogue specs got treated in the same way). we happy?

[crisp pine]

smth smth aura farming

[distant plinth]

Yea meta now

[ornate raptor]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[ornate raptor]

Love this

[severe meadow]

I swear it half ass works sometimes

[stray fox]

you have to let the energy gain buff fall off before building again or it breaks

[runic hinge]

You have to let it fall off before envenoming again

And I do that if I won’t overcap cause I can’t count to 5

[haughty flicker]

i can only count to four

i can only count to four

[warped moon]

kindly, mr raid boss, pls do not Mechanics while i wait for buff to expire ty

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/green-goblin-green-goblin-mask-mask-scene-reject-urge-gif-2558149218007024011

[warped moon]

when i puzzle box

https://tenor.com/view/lain-pizza-gif-3589859867611294431

[distant plinth]

Half? You give em too much credit

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[strange onyx]

That’s when you want mechanics

[severe meadow]

Can you unpack this with a 200 word essay

[royal lantern]

i dont wanna be again

allready suffered with it in DF

[high dust]

got it myself right now too

do u sync it with deathmark i suppose?

[royal lantern]

use it before DM

envenom->cringe box->dm->kingsbane

[high dust]

cringe box

100% correct description

[crisp pine]

actually its
envenom - box - https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/the-chess-game make your move - dm - kingsbane

[high dust]

envenom always before? thought with the actual kingsbane u didnt really need to

KHAJSDASD

[brittle quail]

Tried using it as sub, but was too cringe for me

[high dust]

sub is cringe in general. and edgelord. i said it.

[fathom flax]

how do you rate the conq pvp trinket, 1min cd 200+ agi on use with base crit

bind that to kingsbane idk

[frosty cedar]

just sim it i guess

[charred oyster]

did anything change that made fatebound better in m+? i remember in preaseason deathstalker was better by like 2-3%

[crisp pine]

still is I think

[charred oyster]

wowhead guide says fatebound is slightly better

[royal lantern]

they are more or less equal

but fatebound doesnt need to manage the cringe mark

[subtle tundra]

real

tryan

[charred oyster]

got it thx

[frosty cedar]

I think fatebound does more overall and deathstalker more prio right?

[fluid oak]

!buff

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[charred oyster]

Yeah seems like it Zhanshou

[plucky ember]

so im in a spot

gonna try to raid with my....less then good guild tonight

but im not sure what spec to do on the first 3 bosses

[normal mist]

Spin the wheel

[plucky ember]

https://tenor.com/view/spin-wheel-drink-a-beer-beer-gif-17731322

[tall jay]

Delve question: what’s the fastest delve to run to get to 11

[plucky ember]

im a fan of the one in silvermoon

short

easy to do with the diffrent "buffs" you find that can basicly oneshot the boss

[tall jay]

Cool thank you

[plucky ember]

the books you can find sends a fireball on the target that does like 1+mil damage

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-cat-baby-cat-wrap-tug-gif-9679222050133946743

[keen reef]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[keen reef]

Is assa poppin? Why rwf is Playing assa ?

[strange onyx]

yes it is poppin

good ST while just doing cleave for free

strong cds

[edgy trellis]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

#showtooltip Deathmark
/cast Deathmark
/use 13

[strange onyx]

fat execute

[royal lantern]

what rwf

[strange onyx]

splits

[royal lantern]

mfs will look at normal and heroic splits

and go

"wtf spec is strong/weak"

i cant with you clowns

[humble verge]

unironically

just spamming m0

and keeping shit u dont need to disenchant

is free gold

[sharp viper]

so many balls of hay tumbling across your screen

[humble verge]

i just used it to get free crest upgrade anyways

this is one of my splits alts

[sharp viper]

splits

[humble verge]

[bleak star]

did they buff improved garrote time that you can use?

[jolly stirrup]

Do you have a job also?

[humble verge]

yes

i do

[golden loom]

wat addon

[jolly stirrup]

Honestly insane, I am already burnt out playing 2 chars

[humble verge]

alterego

its a bit bad tbh

since it doesnt display gear for alts

i wish it did

[subtle tundra]

hey thats how my characters look like too

[golden loom]

180

[humble verge]

wait wtf

how

[subtle tundra]

what

[humble verge]

???

[subtle tundra]

spill the beans

[humble verge]

what in the tech are you using

[golden loom]

? boss gave 30 over cap, ?? gave another 30 and idk where the remaining 20 is from

[strange onyx]

imagine not having 35 Myth

stay weak bozo

[humble verge]

its from uh

[woeful plume]

housing weekly?

[neat smelt]

Nightmare prey quest or something

[humble verge]

oh fuck

i forgot where its from

[golden loom]

havent done housing weekly

[jolly stirrup]

That was more or less a joke ^^ dont take it Personal please

[humble verge]

nah its not from there

[humble verge]

no i do have a job tho

wdym

[jolly stirrup]

Ye

[humble verge]

🤨

[jolly stirrup]

But it was more like: Damn you have a lot of time

[humble verge]

going to work

i mean

its not about time

its about efficiency

and armor stacking

[jolly stirrup]

Do you play any other games as well?

[humble verge]

nah ive only played wow

or solitaire

[jolly stirrup]

Ahhh

Thats it

I get burnt out very easily

[humble verge]

i mean

[jolly stirrup]

And play a lot of different games to keep me sane

[humble verge]

i have a bunch of off-games i play

[golden loom]

same, like wow classic or wow classic tbc

[humble verge]

fo4, naruto storm 4, cyberpunk, rocket league

maybe nier

damn

[jolly stirrup]

What rank in RL?

[humble verge]

pisslow

[royal lantern]

did you insult my mom?

[jolly stirrup]

[humble verge]

i was like champ years ago

im really bad tho

for a champ/high diamond

[jolly stirrup]

I wanted to deliver a whispyr like answer, but I cant do it

[humble verge]

more so focused on saving goals than actually doing cool shots

aerial is like okish

[jolly stirrup]

Just like me frfr

[strange onyx]

chat

[jolly stirrup]

No

[strange onyx]

should i do a game of league

or slay the spire

[jolly stirrup]

Still no

[jolly stirrup]

Yes

[royal lantern]

not horny enough?

[jolly stirrup]

[royal lantern]

no

[royal lantern]

yes

[humble verge]

m0 tour

[strange onyx]

ty for the help, feels good finallying getting some help from this discord

[echo prairie]

Sporasaur special gulf of memory and collegiate calamity invasive glow

[jolly stirrup]

Anytime

[tall jay]

ok cool ty

[echo prairie]

[rotund oak]

mage

[warm vortex]

Hahahaha

@haughty flicker

You called it

[static glacier]

Slay the spire, no need to raise cortisol levels

[rotund oak]

he prolly knows my mage

maybe not

[static glacier]

Bro made the correct decision smh

[strange onyx]

I think I am geared enough

Did trium for gloves today, but no luck

and traded away puzzle box

[runic hinge]

mog is bad

[strange onyx]

Sure, buddy

[humble verge]

hoooooooooly unmogmaxxing

this is a real tmog

[rotund oak]

bruh

[static glacier]

Why’s your higher ilvl dagger in offhand

[humble verge]

@golden loom are u sure it was

? and ??

[subtle tundra]

which one is the mainhand

cause im about to fucking

[strange onyx]

263

[static glacier]

Bro whoever made that view

[golden loom]

ye did those yesterday so

[static glacier]

Needs help

[golden loom]

was at 120 before

[static glacier]

How is main hand the lower dagger

Positionally

[humble verge]

ok so

its nemesis

? and ??

apparently

[golden loom]

because the 30 myth are also outside of cap @humble verge

[strange onyx]

Actually had crafted in mh after taking off my weapons for trial of style

Good catch chat

[humble verge]

you mean hero

?

[golden loom]

no

[humble verge]

wait

wtf

myth crests

[golden loom]

from the ?? version

you get myth crests

[humble verge]

ohhh

[golden loom]

that are outside of cap

so the hero from ? and ?? are also

[strange onyx]

Heres my "Hero of the whimsical forest" - mog enjoy

[humble verge]

yeah

i understood it now

nemesis + ? and ??

are 80

• 30 myth crest from ?? as well

[rotund oak]

welcome to s1

[humble verge]

my brain wasnt braining

[royal lantern]

whimsy maxxing

[cold marten]

Ofc you ask this like its a question

[strange onyx]

cant get any good lighting after the sunwell imploded

[cold marten]

Get back in the mines