assassination

[grim jay]

Call me daddy, but its kinda the same as before ngl

Other specs/classes have it worse

[subtle tundra]

hi...dad

[wet vessel]

wait did you play assa in tww x)

he was so much fun

not u have 3 button

that's sad

[wet vessel]

yea that's true

[grim jay]

I did play sin for a decade ye

[wet vessel]

but he clearly take a shot

[grim jay]

I didnt really play sin on prepatch much, but they kinda removed one button?

While adding an actual resource loop in midnight

"losing" ct as a finisher isnt really noticeable enough to talk about
The only really noticeable aspect sin lost is actually dotting in aoe yourself, which only happened if you couldnt restealth or didnt have vanish to use IC

Many would argue the new way is a net win tho

[wet vessel]

yea i understand what do you want to say but I think the new gameplay is so bland the main advantage of the class was tracking down all the dots, it was super fun (especially in terms of difficulty which has been absent for a long time)

[errant heath]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Guides:

• WoWhead - by Whispyr
• Method - by Whispyr
• Icy Veins - by Seliathan

[misty holly]

guys what is going to be the best way to use this? like a really long rupture or a huge envenom?

[marsh fjord]

Only difference is SHIV. there is nothing different.

[wet vessel]

there are really nobody who think the change on the class is bad ??

shiv is sad but the dots spray with the crimson is unfun

[marsh fjord]

There are some people, but to say it's vastly different from TWW itteration. it's really not. the only button that you are not pressing is SHIV. you still spread bleeds. but now trough CT. which you had before but as a finisher. the spec is slower sure. but it's no fire mage pruning wise.

[wet vessel]

yeah i know but the spreads ask 0 iq just spam crimson

but ok I'm probably one of the only idiots who likes difficulty

xD

[orchid pewter]

Idk the changes for ass are mostly positive imo

Outlaw too

Sub is.. fine i guess

[lean plover]

what difficulty was there to spreading bleeds before in aoe? if you stealth, gar gar rup rup, if no stealth mouseover or tab target

if anything it was piss easy with stealth, annoying without it

[placid adder]

Until you run out of energy

[orchid pewter]

The difficulty was having a proper plater

[lean plover]

for sure

[static glacier]

The thing is they pruned everything (except fdk) not just over-bloated classes, I remember previous pruning (from mop onwards) and it was never this extreme relatively speaking

[lean plover]

im not a fan of the pruning but the crimson tempest change was good

[lapis lantern]

Improved garrote does still kinda force you into bein stealthed inbetween pulls in m+ - I thought that issue would haven been totally gone with this patch

[runic hinge]

Idk if improved garrotes damage is impactful enough to care

[lapis lantern]

It’s obviously not the same impact anymore, for sure 👍🏻

[spice surge]

More importantly its not impacting how the rotation feels anymore

[sacred oyster]

what does a controller bind setup look like for you for this? using triggers as modifiers for hotbar keys? ie no trigger = 1-4, L + 1-4 and R 1-4?

My keybinds are 1-6 so it wouldnt even map to controller that smoothly unless tried to tie in bumper buttons too. so i guess L bumper 5 and R 6?

[spice surge]

Which was the main issue before

[runic hinge]

And spreading normal garrote is easy now and not beholden to a cd

[sacred oyster]

I bind my interrupt to E so controller wouldnt really be any easier for me

yeah im trying to imagine playing this with controller and i just cant see it lol. having to move thumb off right stick to hit action would be so much loss of camera/movement control during attacks. i keep right click held down entire fight (i dont click cast anything)

[vestal tapir]

is there a way to make my nameplates show a certain color if missing rupture / garrote?

[sacred oyster]

that would prob require fancy logic like plater offers but with the addon changes may not be possible anymore

mainly question if addons can still see name/id of buffs, if they can, then it should be possible id imagine

i switched to platy and it works good enough in stock, it seems to only show rupture/garrote so if its missing icons, well they arent on.

[lethal turtle]

I think I saw Spriests still do this for their dots on prepatch.

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-spin-silly-cat-silly-cat-gif-15869807335045066863

@thorn thorn

[spice spire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1086436194059030568/1133102534815395900/attachment-2.gif

[haughty haven]

hey quick question, do you spam envenom now or do you still envenom only right before the envenom buff falls off outside kingsbane to maintain energy?

[static glacier]

Not just that this makes playing council without IC in the past so much less of a hassle of juggling garotte cd and a bunch of ruptures while playing around DN

[lime dune]

This is the only correct response to the patch

[midnight mist]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-memes-pregnant-gif-26528786

[spice spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1375108617786626138/1382808929045708982/attachment.gif

[spring briar]

what is wrong with u guys

[royal lantern]

?

thats just #assassination when nothing is going on

[wind nest]

i dare not venture in here again

[coral ibex]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdDQ1b3JmM2s5dGNhYWJraWw3Z21wbXdsbDNkNnN5M3lhZ3l3bml5ZiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/EYRC0Cg6lcTdn5Ubaf/giphy.gif

[pliant remnant]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/603866634490347530/960401358127792228/emit38.gif

[sacred oyster]

if one did not cast envenom, what you dumping the CP with? what else would you do lol

envenom also triggers fatebound coins

[humble verge]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G7xdQKQX0AApP24.gif

[royal lantern]

spam

no holding rn exists

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/toast-usagi-gif-298603599025900020

[royal lantern]

just slam those buttons when you can

[humble verge]

hææææææ

[urban fern]

I hope we get Valeera’s daggers as a transmog since she’s gonna be the delve companion 😩

[haughty flicker]

well

i have good news for you then

[wind nest]

didnt bran lose his hat and we had to recover it

maybe she loses her daggers

[haughty flicker]

because her daggers were in fact datamined for midnight

[wind nest]

we back

[urban fern]

LETS GOOOO

[wind nest]

what about her transmog

[urban fern]

I have a (old and kinda shitty) tattoo of one of her daggers lol

[haughty flicker]

nothing about stealing her clothes yet

[urban fern]

Her armor is so good, even if it was a recolor or Walmart version I’d take it

[urban fern]

I tried to have the flowers to match her armor. This is like ~7 years ago when it was fresh. I’m gonna take a nap, thanks @haughty flicker for the good news 🫡

[oblique bluff]

is it normal that crimson tempest is not included in blizzards rota assist?

[thorn thorn]

I have been summoned

[normal mist]

did you test it in the AoE dummies?=

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-kiss-shark-boop-shark-boop-get-kissed-gif-16106366737825073582

[oblique bluff]

dungeons and aoe dummies. if I look in my spellbook that crimson tempest is not marked "yellow" as recommendation

[normal mist]

weird

[oblique bluff]

sorry german client

[oblique sorrel]

Sin feels weak in aoe im probably doing it wrong but you just apply 2 bleeds and spam 2 cts into fok and envenom spams

Arcane pooped on me

😔

[normal mist]

Numbers on pre patch

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-muppets-meme-smh-shaking-my-head-gif-16984538577250620315

[oblique sorrel]

I know I know

[copper hazel]

im screaming SCHATTENSCHRITT next time i step my raid leader in raid

[oblique sorrel]

Anyone tried sub yet?

[tranquil birch]

Huh, I thought chaining was supposed to be the whole shtick of the rework. Is this because we are taking poisoners dive instead of the other one in that spot?

[coral ibex]

its because you're not level 90

[urban fern]

To add on to what Velox said, so we don’t worry about pooling anymore? Or are we just pooling right before our CDs are up

[coral ibex]

you dont have the apex talents

[urban fern]

I forgot we don’t have all the talents yet

[coral ibex]

thats why the spec sucks

its balanced around talents we dont have atm

if you could even call it "balance"

[royal lantern]

i mean, even with the talent it seems to be "just spamm lol"

you just get some energy back when your envenom naturaly ends cus you run out/you re-apply rupture

[runic hinge]

You don’t but I do, I’m built different

[calm grail]

I have a question about the new crimson tempest. It says that it spreads the longest garrote and rupture onto two other targets. Does this only work if you hit it while targeting the mob with bleeds on it? Or even if I'm targeting a mob that does not have bleeds but another one does, it will spread those bleeds to two targets without bleeds?

Like if I open up on a Target and then move to the next adds that are a bit further away and hit crimson tempest, will that apply those bleeds from the guy that's chasing me to the guys I'm running to? Assuming they're within a reasonable range?

[merry raven]

seems like people have said energy is still kinda booty even with gear and talents on beta

i just want to know if i should be playing slow and steady or full send then wait to recharge.
like should my apm/energy consumption be a flat line or up and down

[shy creek]

you juts spend it

the spec is one of the slowest in the game because we just dont have energy to press globals every second

[analog field]

doesn't really matter how you play, only in cd's where you just spam

[merry raven]

yeah its just taking me a long time to adjust to. very different feeling coming from a button-every-gcd class

[crystal vault]

where can i find all bugs on beta?

[mint urchin]

Silithus

[vale leaf]

Is the rupture change released today just a text update or did they actually nerf Rupture?

[balmy condor]

I don’t actually play with controller

[mint urchin]

I want a YouTube sub goal of raid with steering wheel

[royal lantern]

only if we get a DK Bongo Controller Stream after that

[balmy condor]

It will copy the longest bleed it can find in range

Regardless of what is targeted or not

[vale leaf]

Whispyr, any insight into the change today? Didn't want to ping you lol

[balmy condor]

What changes

There was nothing today except that big roadmap thing

[vale leaf]

That's from today

On wowhead

[balmy condor]

What

[vale leaf]

Yeah lol

[balmy condor]

I mean those are just tooltip fixes

But what

For what version of the game

[vale leaf]

Ok. That's what I was wondering. If it was a tooltip fix or actually a change.

Beta

[balmy condor]

[haughty flicker]

There was one of those wowhead datamine posts yesterday

[severe meadow]

OLD

[balmy condor]

Yeah those were the ones that were announced in like November

[vale leaf]

Ok from last night then

[vale leaf]

Ok cool. Just checking.

[balmy condor]

Yuh

[short sparrow]

Perfidious Projector is on the trinket tier list twice, whereas Soulbreaker's Sigil is not on there at all. Should one of the Projectors be the Sigil?

[balmy condor]

Yeah

They’re both bad

[calm grail]

Thank you! That's what I was wondering. How are you going about tracking improved garrote in this pre-patch phase? I haven't messed with the name plates very much since I murdered my UI. Are you just kind of keeping track of who you broke stuff with and then going based off that?

[short sparrow]

I can't figure out what to take from my vault. I know it doesn't matter end of season and all that, but I'd still like to get better at figuring it out

[balmy condor]

I’m not tracking it

[coral ibex]

sim

[calm grail]

So just make sure everyone is bleeding. Easy.

Thank you Whispyr.

[mint urchin]

You put imp garrote on your main target and you just tunnel that target

[short sparrow]

I would need help with figuring that out also

[mint urchin]

And you spread bleeds to everyone else with CT

[calm grail]

Yeah, I was just worried I would whiff a normal garrote and accidentally spread that overriding the improved one

[mint urchin]

But how? You just stay on the one target

Like if you accidentally apply a normal garrote on your target, yeah

[calm grail]

Maybe if you're trying to spread bleeds and things aren't quite grouped up super well

[short sparrow]

You can track it if you wish quite easily with Blizzard's cooldown manager. I just use Imp Garrote one more time before the buff expires, then don't press it again until the debuff is pandemic

[mint urchin]

But you aren't manually spreading garrotes

[calm grail]

True, I'm just coming back after a break since the first raid and overthinking things.

[mint urchin]

We just dot our primary and everything else is spread via CT

[coral ibex]

install simc addon, type /simc in game, copy output, paste into raidbots.com/topgear

[royal lantern]

assassination was basically always a spec where stuff sounds complicated and that you should watch out for many things

when in reality thats all just...not really the case

dont overthink stuff, trust me

[balmy condor]

I’m trying to think of a situation where you could fuck it up

And it’s really hard

[short sparrow]

wasting energy is really easy, so if you press the wrong button i guess that counts

[balmy condor]

Like if you’re manually spreading garrotes you could fuck it up, but you’d only ever do that for iron wire

Which is a dogass talent that you don’t take

[royal lantern]

not really

like, how can you waste energy really outside of pressing a finisher before 5cp or a generator at max cp

[balmy condor]

So that’s like multiple failure points where you both have to take a shit talent on purpose, get a pack where you need to spread that much, you don’t double garrote your main target, and you try to garrote something for iron wire after the 6 second window

Which idk, that can’t be it

[short sparrow]

If he spread his garrote again unnecessarily as an eg

[balmy condor]

And if you’re not manually spreading, you’re spreading with ct

Which literally cannot fuck up imp gar

[short sparrow]

when i said wasting energy is easy i just meant we run out quickly i guess

[balmy condor]

So we’ve eliminating fucking it up when you apply the garrote, when you spread the garrote

Only thing left is when you refresh the garrote

Which…. Okay? You refresh an imp gar with a regular gar a couple seconds early and lose out on like 3 improved ticks

Which are 50% stronger

So you’re losing 1.5 regular garrote ticks

The absolute fucking horror I guess, world ending catastrophe

[mint urchin]

Pressing garrote 7 times in a row and removing CT from your bar

[balmy condor]

True I guess

[runic hinge]

i remember when ic was 12 seconds and i could cast imp garrote 12 times in a row and no one could stop me

[haughty flicker]

i remember when we had this cool build we could play that didnt use kingsbane

[runic hinge]

I remember when IC was a 45 second cd and you had to manually apply dots outside of that

[mint urchin]

It was cool til you got to the boss and the tank was like "you doing anything bud?"

[haughty flicker]

i just turned off details during boss fights

and lived my best life

[mint urchin]

Huge

I should have

[balmy condor]

I think the funniest part about this wass people taking kingsbane instead and losing single target damage

[haughty flicker]

[mint urchin]

Surely KB will save us

Without any of the talents that support it

[balmy condor]

I mean it is significantly stronger

and bleeds are doing damage in single target

idk, when I simmed bleed build after the caustic nerf it wasn't even that bad

like it was behind in st

and like 3% behind in overall

but it was fine

kb and bleed damage is pretty decent even without dtb

[haughty flicker]

its not the same

but jokes aside i like how assa is looking in midnight for the most part

gonna just be playing it as an alt this time but looks like its in better shape than most specs

[mint urchin]

I really liked s1 hybrid so I'm pumped for midnight

It's basically that but with less obnoxious aspects

[charred marten]

Pressing CT instead of fan when bleeds are already spread

[balmy condor]

true

the horror

out of curiosity, how much do we think that's a problem

like you're in big aoe, you have 10 targets or whatever

there's a bunch of nameplates on your screen, you can't keep track of all of them at a glance

your fan of knives key breaks

and you're just full spamming CT instead of fan

for the entire pull

any guessers

[mint urchin]

Doesn't CT hit harder anyways? Idr the diff

[balmy condor]

yeah

on deathstalker it's about 15%ish more damage

on fatebound it's more

like closer to 40-50%

but it's also 60 energy vs 35

[mint urchin]

Unbinding my FoK key

[balmy condor]

I mean it is a loss to full spam CT in those situations

but like, give me a feelcraft

and I'll give you a higher/lower

[mint urchin]

Live in a no FoK only fatebound world

[haughty flicker]

your pc blows up

[mint urchin]

I'll give you a 2%

[balmy condor]

lower

[mint urchin]

I don't even know how many casts of FoK you even get esp in high target count

I assume it's minimal

[haughty flicker]

.74%

[mint urchin]

Assuming we aren't just hitting max scent and then FoK spam

[balmy condor]

in 10 targets it's about 2/3rds fok, 1/3rd CT

[balmy condor]

meet me in the middle 1.2%

to just

unbind fok in big aoe

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

I think you'll be aight hitting one or two extra CTs

maybe I can model like

a bad player

that just randomly hits CT sometimes

hold on

I have an idea

[haughty flicker]

hes cooking up a sim to replicate me

[balmy condor]

I hate it here

[mint urchin]

Lmao

[balmy condor]

I don’t have the time rn to unravel why exactly it’s better

[mint urchin]

Rip FoK

Bel goat player

He knew all along

[balmy condor]

My guess would be at some target count you actually get more energy back from the sheer venomous wounds and dashing

That you outpace fok?

I mean I know that was a possibility

But I didn’t think 10 target was enough

[haughty flicker]

[mint urchin]

@haughty flicker please lead us to greatness

[runic hinge]

Dashing kinda crazy in big aoe

Doing a floodgate and having my energy go big up after I press fok is wild

[buoyant herald]

That’s always going to be somewhat variable depending on adds living long enough though right

Unless the value really is just the energy but that seems whack

[mint urchin]

I mean the energy makes sense right

At a certain point you generate extra energy to the point the lower cost of FoK doesn't mean much

And CT hits harder

[short sparrow]

CT is basically double FoK dmg, but for less than double the energy, so doesn't it make sense that it would outpace it eventually?

[balmy condor]

Well it’s not really double fok damage, cause there’s a lot of shit like thrown precision and clear the witnesses that only works with fok

But yes

[balmy condor]

^

[mint urchin]

Fatebound gaming

I'm ready for a season without mark

[spice surge]

Speaking of, why does thrown not work with CT too

Wouldnt that make sense, seeing as its literally locked behind CT

[royal lantern]

why does DN not work with secret tech

🤷‍♂️

[short sparrow]

It's exactly the opposite I guess - it keeps FoK viable

But seeing as you have to spend a point to force it to be viable...

[balmy condor]

You’re asking too much questions Elmo

Go back to wasting combo points

[lime onyx]

I’ve been spamming ct in big aoe almost nonstop and it seems to pump

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah

The downside of CT is the cost

Otherwise it’s just better

[lime onyx]

Yeah I meant I can almost perma maintain it

[spice surge]

Guild fell apart so not entirely sure how many combo points ill be wasting unfortunately

[lime onyx]

And then once I can’t hit it anymore I swap between ct and fok

[balmy condor]

I assume if you’re like giga pulling like priory first pull or some shit

That’ll be enough

[balmy condor]

Dawg

[royal lantern]

bigger reason, or was it allready comming?

[mint urchin]

It's Eleems time to be the m+ goat

[lime onyx]

Well if you want a spot on a barely CE guild, hit me up 🙌🏻😎

[spice surge]

I mean i have several titles already

[sacred oyster]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps#rotation-assist

What are these numbers under "Assisted Hilight"? I understand the GCD penalty of One Button, but why is this saying Hilight also loses DPS?

[worldly sail]

[short sparrow]

I'm surprised there's not somewhere else to put the Thrown point into

[spice surge]

Because it doesnt always highlight the optimal things

[mint urchin]

You just gonna let Zac have #1?

[spice surge]

Ye bro is a demon

[balmy condor]

Not surprising considering thrown precision is insanely good and the other alternatives are insanely shit

[sacred oyster]

im guessing its mainly saying if you follow it exactly and dont do things like vanish for improved, or double garrote?

[balmy condor]

Well then you’d be playing on your own

[royal lantern]

cute is one of them

[thorn thorn]

Time to get a few more

[balmy condor]

elmo gonna show the zoomers that old unc still got motion

[idle radish]

whispyr is is true you have been looking for a solid, homemade, ethical combo point/energy bar?

[balmy condor]

not really, I'm quite happy with sensei's

aesthetically it's a little camp

but that's okay

[idle radish]

even with its slower update speed?

and ugly UI??

[balmy condor]

I haven't noticed any problems with update speed

I press mutilate, I get combo points and my energy goes down

idk seems fine

[mint urchin]

Timid salesman over here

[idle radish]

what if i told you this is 3 combo points addons, bcm on top, sensei in the middle, and unknown goated addon onthe bottom?
this is after pressing a finisher at 7 combo points, look at the update differences!!!

[balmy condor]

I probably wouldn't care

[mint urchin]

Abort

[subtle kiln]

Looks fine for assa apm

[balmy condor]

it looks identically ugly but in this still image the new shiny one updated a frame earlier

holy pog I guess

[subtle kiln]

@idle radish stay on target.

[idle radish]

what if i told you you could edit each combo point individually? or even set the combo points the change color based on amount? all within a very well maintained and easy to use UI?

[mint urchin]

Huge!

[idle radish]

ethical right??

[balmy condor]

the coloring is neat

here's a question to you though

[mint urchin]

I heard it's a local up and coming addon maker

[balmy condor]

can I change the colors based on loadout/spec

so assa highlights on 5, sub on 6

[idle radish]

that could be added!

if only we knew the dev...

[balmy condor]

okay well you vibe code that in and I'm sold

[idle radish]

fine!

[balmy condor]

excited to see it though

[mint urchin]

An addon for the people

[haughty flicker]

WANGBAR

[idle radish]

WANGBAR

[balmy condor]

WANGBAR

[lime onyx]

I love the sales pitch

BILLY MAYS HERE

[buoyant herald]

FOR THE PEOPLE

[grave trail]

what about outlaw?

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean same thing

fatebound outlaw 5, trickster 6

[grave trail]

ic

[pliant remnant]

WANGBAAAAAAAAR

[lime onyx]

Ooh make it so when we pop deathmark our energy bar has the Mario power star animation and music

And an addon that says “yeet!” When I press feint

[idle radish]

hmm i wonder if i can do loadout conditions, i have per spec almost functioning

[balmy condor]

the loadout condition is just a nice to have I mean if outlaw is just 6 then that's fine obv

that sort of granularity would be peak

but like w/e

[idle radish]

wangbar is for the people

[short sparrow]

can you attach my combo points to the nameplate? then you have an interested buyer

[coral ibex]

#wangbar

[mint urchin]

Just move the combo bar to the middle of your screen winning

[short sparrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ohh-oh-damn-2

[balmy condor]

platynator can do that

[lime onyx]

make an option for combo point meter to glow above a certain CP threshold

[thorn thorn]

Thanks im calling eleem elemo now

[idle radish]

@balmy condor

im unsure i can do the hero talent stuff

[balmy condor]

banger

[urban fern]

This is awesome! Is this gonna be available for everyone soon? 👀

[idle radish]

yessir

[urban fern]

I’m going back to Rogue after a few years and this would be so sick since there’s so many nuances for when to spend

Thank you for your work

[lime onyx]

do any auto tricks of the trade addons still work?

[balmy condor]

I don't think so

[short sparrow]

I just use a focus cast macro

[balmy condor]

auto-targetting things is kinda doomed now

so yeh, gotta be focus

or like @name of dude

or whatever

[gray raven]

can make a click cast on mouseover easy enough

[lime onyx]

yeah it's not that deep, just miss being able to just tap the button and not think about it

[gray raven]

if you ask nicely I'm guessing whisp will explain why tricks is useless

[balmy condor]

[lime onyx]

useless as in barely does anything or useless as in not even worht talenting into

[balmy condor]

useless as in the situations where tricks actually does something is pretty slim

unless you're like actually pulling for your tank to group stuff

you're never really transferring a meaningful amount of aggro

[lime onyx]

eh i use it for tanks doing driveby's to group up adds so i can at least start bleeding em while they're running

[balmy condor]

and it doesn't even work as like a "I'm a dumbass and run into mobs"

because tricks doesn't work until you dealt damage

so you get snap-auto'd regardless

[urban fern]

Hey Whispyr, whenever wangbar is ready can it be pinned or mentioned somewhere?

[balmy condor]

yep

[urban fern]

Where should I look later? I’m really interested in it but I don’t want to stare at discord 24/7 lol

[lime onyx]

did anyone do raid testing on sin in the recent ptr cycle? how's it feeling compared to sub/outlaw

[balmy condor]

it'll be in !ui and if @idle radish lets me, I'll probably add it to the ui page on wowhead too

basically anywhere you'd look

[idle radish]

yes

[lime onyx]

Consent has been given! all hail the WANGbar

[idle radish]

WBWB

[balmy condor]

we're all wangers here

love wang

[lime onyx]

inb4 it uses up 80% of my ram

[balmy condor]

if it eats your framerate to shit you can ping awang and call him bad words

not that I recommend that

but you have free will

[subtle kiln]

Get more ram. Seesh

[lime onyx]

i just downloaded some more but barely feel the difference 🙁

[subtle kiln]

delete elvui

[lime onyx]

fun fact: elvui isn't eating up much ram. Raider.io is the biggest culprit for me:

[balmy condor]

200mb of addons is insane

[haughty flicker]

wangbar is on track to be the most successful crypto miner of 2026

[lime onyx]

eh i got 64gb of ram so i big chillin

[subtle kiln]

When 62 of that is download, it’s kind of sus

[lime onyx]

just paid for the 128 gb ram download pack, crazy steal B)

[subtle kiln]

Better Bags 26mb

[lime onyx]

so worth it to make my shit look nice

[gray raven]

oh wangbar broke through the combo point color issue?

[thorn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vlc_2024-10-06_08-22-07.gif

[mint urchin]

Yes there is

[severe meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vlc_2024-10-06_08-22-07.gif

[lime onyx]

uh whihc

[mint urchin]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/asmisdirection

[digital venture]

guys, is there any addon that makes your cooldown manager essencial skills always centered regardless of the number of skills you have?

whenever I swap from assa to sub it gets ruined xD

[subtle kiln]

@digital venture https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/cooldown-manager-control/

[mint urchin]

This is more assa specific then sub and outlaw, right? Because we are dot heavy? Or is it all up

[balmy condor]

no, it's literally just shit

[mint urchin]

Rip

Well you ruined it, I thought I was helping, thanks

♥️

[balmy condor]

tank threat multiplier

just means they breathe on a mob

and you'd have to do like 8 globals just to pull even

[subtle kiln]

your tanks actually attack the mob?

[balmy condor]

like even just a random throw glaive

generates an obscene amount of threat

[mint urchin]

Remember when they changed that because everyone complained it was too easy and so everyone pulled agro immediately and kept dying?

Good times

[balmy condor]

aggro is a shit mechanic tbh

like there's issues with it where you get legion m+

[subtle kiln]

5 sunders

[balmy condor]

and people just drag the entire dungeon back to the start

but there's gotta be some other solution

[mint urchin]

You mean kite entire dungeon and never lose agro?

[balmy condor]

ye

[mint urchin]

Ye

That was a time

[balmy condor]

but tanks having to manage aggro is worse

so

that's where we're at

[subtle kiln]

Do your tank tc friends care about aggro mgmt?

[balmy condor]

care in what way

[subtle kiln]

Actually want to work for it vs just ignore it

[balmy condor]

oh god no

working for aggro is pain

[subtle kiln]

Most tanks I’ve known just seem to want to blast

[idle radish]

wangbar updated.

[balmy condor]

correct

[subtle kiln]

or get off on how big of a pull they can wreck

[balmy condor]

tanks want to feel powerful

[subtle kiln]

on our dimmy prog kill our blood dk had a 99 dmg parse.

he was so happy.

[fallow canopy]

[balmy condor]

we must cook

[haughty flicker]

i dont like that green

[balmy condor]

I don't like you

[idle radish]

i added a healthbar to wangbar whispyr

[haughty flicker]

yeah but that doesnt make me wrong

[idle radish]

i think it works decent

[balmy condor]

Ill be the judge of that

(it's probably fine)

okay follow up

how do I edit this thing

[idle radish]

either in edit mode, there is an edit option ext to it

or in the menu

[balmy condor]

yeah I found that

button doesn't do anything

oh there's a thing in the middle of my map

I see

[idle radish]

hmm what it works on my end

[balmy condor]

okay that works

nvm that doesn't do anything either

[idle radish]

what the hell

[balmy condor]

yeh idk

let me turn on bugsack maybe it's throwing error

yeh bugsack is picking up nothing

it's just.... not doing anything

[idle radish]

hm

[balmy condor]

the actual bars are doing their thing

I just can't open any option panel

[idle radish]

we need a stage stage envirnonment for addons

working on my end shouldnt count as final testing

so, youre just clicking edit and nothing is popping up?

[balmy condor]

correct

and I only have wang and bugsack on

and platynator I guess

but it's not throwing any errors

[idle radish]

and using this UI is doing nothing?

[balmy condor]

I can't even open that

[idle radish]

hmm open it up this way?

[balmy condor]

wish I could

[digital venture]

thanks so much!
Also anyone getting the 2nd or 3rd blizzard damage meter with a black background and not working?

[idle radish]

this may be a roll thsoe changes back angle

and figure out whats going on later

[balmy condor]

If you roll it back and update I’ll try and see if it works like that

[idle radish]

addon dev is so foreign to me, what could possibly be causing these errors on your end but not mine

[short sparrow]

Do you have an Options .toc? There's normally a separate "addon" for the options

[idle radish]

only toc i have is wangbar.toc

i have an options.lua

[lime onyx]

i mean it's working for me

even adjusting the settings

[idle radish]

it should be rolled back by now

[lime onyx]

only thing that doesn't work is individual combo point colors and threshold colors

[idle radish]

whispyr can you let me know if the version out now works for you, atleast the basic options functionality? i have to dip for a bit

thank u king

last nights version is back on curse forge

[balmy condor]

sorry was making dinner

didn't think you'd be that quick

[midnight mist]

bro no way you got got by wang whisp

you know his addon mines bitcoin on your computer right ?

bro got owned gg

[balmy condor]

my life for wangcoin

@idle radish yeah idk now it works

[midnight mist]

wtf is this shit ui wangus

[haughty flicker]

wangbar online

[midnight mist]

fix your addon

[gleaming geyser]

numerical > bar

[midnight mist]

if you use a number instead of a bar for cps

idk

not human

imo

[gleaming geyser]

ya not human

am beast

[midnight mist]

[gleaming geyser]

confirmed

[haughty flicker]

what the helly

[coral ibex]

thats some classic shit fr

[balmy condor]

delete this big guy

what the fuck is that

[gleaming geyser]

peak

[balmy condor]

fucking sesame street counting on his character

unreal

[gleaming geyser]

lmfao

[digital venture]

So I managed to make the Cooldown manager centered despite the number of skills I have shown there, now how do I anchor both the player frame and the target to it, so that they don't stay in africa when the spec has less things to track?

[balmy condor]

the red bar

will lock the frame to that block

[digital venture]

I think it's not working for me cuz i'm using Cooldown Manager Control

[coral ibex]

you have to enable snapping

iirc

[balmy condor]

yeah have to have snapping on

[digital venture]

ok will try

[balmy condor]

this

in the hud

it is a bit finnicky

best way I've found to test it is to just swap between outlaw and sub

cause my outlaw CDM is like 15 miles wide

and sub is not

[digital venture]

OK WORKS!

it's so clunky holy

[balmy condor]

welcome to midnight

[digital venture]

now the target of target won't snap

fml 🙁

[balmy condor]

why the hell would you need that

[digital venture]

cuz I like the simetry of it xD

focus snaped to player frame

and target of target to target frame

[balmy condor]

fair enough

my blessings onto you, my OCD king

[spice surge]

Ye its really annoying

That theres such a difference in how many buffs/cds you need to track

[subtle kiln]

for what it's worth I've had good look swapping between the three specs with Cooldown Manager Control

using wills cdm to change the aura buff color whle active

[split grail]

So I know this is the sin channel but is Outlaw easier now? Less rng and apm?

[subtle kiln]

easier than s3? very much so.

[split grail]

Maybe I'll play sub. Sin aint it as of right now. THough granted nobody cares about prepatch numbers

[subtle kiln]

sub has the burst which is good for the raid kill times

[bronze marsh]

its pretty fickle with charge/count text

but I'm a big fan for pretty much everything else with it

[uneven plume]

Sins even worse on beta

[subtle kiln]

How so?

[bronze marsh]

it doesn't allow it to move beyond the bounds of the icon itself

[idle radish]

This is fine and functional, I wonder what was happening

[idle radish]

Help

[bronze marsh]

and once you hit a certain font size threshold the positioning basically devolves entirely

[split grail]

Too bad, I loved how simple sin became

[bronze marsh]

font size 18, top right position vs font size 18 top position

[idle radish]

Addon dev is hard guys back off

Like why was whispers UI not working

[uneven plume]

Whispers is prob using the unpaid version of chatgpt

He needs to upgrade to get better code

[subtle kiln]

It’s just using the standard blizz options

[bronze marsh]

ye, just a bit annoying that its bound within the icon

and I don't like the look of giant icons as a workaround

[subtle kiln]

bootm right 17

[bronze marsh]

whats your icon size though

bc mine are 36x27

[subtle kiln]

44x36

[bronze marsh]

figured

[subtle kiln]

UI scaled down so likely close to the 36

[bronze marsh]

I like to keep mine ~36 or 34

ah I don't fw UI scaling

[subtle kiln]

get wrecked

[bronze marsh]

but ye besides the text thing cmc is nice

[subtle kiln]

[bronze marsh]

can't change font tho

L

[subtle kiln]

change the default font perhaps

[bronze marsh]

I probably will tbh

[subtle kiln]

but it would be nice to be able to adjust font/color

this one has pissed me off the least

[bronze marsh]

also did they change how they configure the default fonts, I thought there were like 4 .ttf files they used

[subtle kiln]

your other hack would be doing a masque setup to move font/icon size

[bronze marsh]

vs mine being full of .slug files

[subtle kiln]

theyve been slugs for a bit now I think

[bronze marsh]

L plus ratio

[balmy condor]

idk either but looks good, new thing I'm going to ask though sensei's has this option that's actually uber banger where you can sync the width of everything to your CDM width, and it works across specs and shit it's super neat

[subtle kiln]

36x36 16 BR

[midnight mist]

this is ugly as shit noob

bet you dont even use the wang bar

bro not wanging it

loser

[bronze marsh]

thats literally wangbar

[midnight mist]

ah nice

cool bar bro

[bronze marsh]

wangbar is for the people bro

[keen spruce]

i'll bar your wang

[midnight mist]

wtf

[balmy condor]

okay I'm convinced

wangbar believer

it's a little rough round the edges

but I'm invested

[haughty flicker]

wangbar stonks on the rise

official shadow endorsement

[balmy condor]

it's easy

and crisp

shit ain't halfbad

[midnight mist]

bro no way you rocking default frames

[balmy condor]

I am

[midnight mist]

default frames in the big 2026

i cannot

[subtle kiln]

you can tell who is not subbed to the YouTube

[balmy condor]

why do I care about unit frames

as a rogue

[midnight mist]

i burnt out of wow for now

waiting for badnight

[bronze marsh]

wangbar keeps resetting my cp/supercharged cp colors hmge

on login

[gray raven]

For that super slick tricks of the trade macro?

[midnight mist]

what a noob

[subtle kiln]

There’s a faulty version

[balmy condor]

real shiit

[subtle kiln]

Supposedly replaced with yesterday’s version.

[bronze marsh]

that's not very cash money

[balmy condor]

well

I have that version and it's also resetting the charged colors

[subtle kiln]

Yeah. I’m waiting for tomorrows release candidate

[subtle kiln]

rip

[balmy condor]

it resets on reload

[midnight mist]

guys dont be too hard on my boy wang

its his first time

he is wanging it

[gray raven]

I didn’t have install wangbar in my 2026 list but here we are

[balmy condor]

hard wang

[bronze marsh]

nah its a banger addon been praising since it dropped

just mini scuffle

[bronze marsh]

ye I've got the latest version

out of the two listed

[subtle kiln]

what's quite funny is, Sensei only has slightly delayed CPs for outlaw

assa and sub the cps are fine

[bronze marsh]

nah fuck sensei wangbar is better

[subtle kiln]

not when the colors and health dont work

will revisit tomorrow

[bronze marsh]

no health only cp and energy

[subtle kiln]

the energy regen also smoother on sensei but

[subtle kiln]

get wrecked

[bronze marsh]

why would I want to see my hp twice

I play sub I'm alive or I'm dead

[subtle kiln]

it's both addons

[midnight mist]

one is better than the other

i cant tell which one

but i know one is better

its either of these 2 in the picture for sure

[haughty flicker]

i agree

[bronze marsh]

I have a player frame with hp on it why would I want to also see a bar with my energy and cp

I know its two addons lol

[subtle kiln]

why would you have a player frame?

[bronze marsh]

to see my hp

not central tho

[subtle kiln]

mine tkes up 6px, yours looks like a scab on the screen

[bronze marsh]

its peripheral I don't need it to look fancy

its green or empty

[haughty flicker]

mine looks nice

[buoyant herald]

Ah another uuf enjoyer

[balmy condor]

yeah okay so @idle radish just a list of things/feature stuff in one place not wanting to be rude or anything, I genuinely like what's there right now and the combo point coloring on threshold is banger

1. supercharger cp option is resetting on reload
2. no import/export (probably a killer for me atm as a mr content man cause I need to give UI imports on wowhead for example)
3. ideally the width thing I pinged you with earlier for spec swapping without giga headache as my CDM goes from 6 icons on outlaw to 3 on sub and so the bar is literally 2x the length
4. I think you mentioned it at one point but I can't find a health bar maybe I'm skill issued and I don't use a player unit frame, but also healer issue
5. text options for energy bar because old uncspyr is a bit blind
6. this one's super nit-picky honestly but if you can get the bars to be moveable/snappable in edit mode holy nut
7. I think honestly just the threshold on spec is fine if the loadout thing doesn't work and already a HUGE improvement to sensei alongside the regular threshold coloring and combo point control

I think because I'm playing demon hunter atm I have to stick with sensei's just as an all around, but I am so down to wang it for rogue

this is already really good

[digital venture]

I did it

One day ill change the unit frames from blizz, but not today xD

[subtle kiln]

outside of the layout, what did you do? looks nice

[digital venture]

I slapped a masque skin and used the cooldown manager addon you recommended

[subtle kiln]

nice

[balmy condor]

does masque work out of box on the base ui stuff

[midnight mist]

bro had to add backstab icon for sub

3 icon spec

xdd

[digital venture]

yeah, it does

[balmy condor]

neat

[digital venture]

Bro... I did that cuz 4 icons is too small of a hud xD

[midnight mist]

idk how im gonna track it

i dont even track vanish on my main bar

so i have to raw it

3 icons

[balmy condor]

yeah sub is a little funny

[digital venture]

I honestly like to track evis for the HT proc

[midnight mist]

my cps are gonna be 3 pixel wide

[balmy condor]

[midnight mist]

[digital venture]

EXACLY!

[haughty flicker]

[midnight mist]

i cannot bro

xdd

[digital venture]

3 fuckin things to track is to daring for me xD

[midnight mist]

you know we prolly end up playing builds with ks and prep on st

thats 2 more bud

[balmy condor]

yes I am aware

I am going to deal with that horror later

[midnight mist]

[balmy condor]

cause I don't wanna have to deal with that rn

[balmy condor]

also prep isn't in the CDM

for god knows what reason

[midnight mist]

bro scath why are all your screenshot

like

exploded

[haughty flicker]

[digital venture]

Layouting looks nice

[balmy condor]

this looks like what grok thinks a UI is

[subtle kiln]

how to fill the sub bar

[balmy condor]

why is it so saturated

and the icons so uncanny

[midnight mist]

he is standing in front of a light bro

[balmy condor]

it's like skinwalker UI

[subtle kiln]

the active is an color overlaw so I dont have the awful yellow or buffs seperate

[nova kelp]

Check for a zipper

[subtle kiln]

correct

[balmy condor]

shadow blades but when it smiles the corners of its mouth go all the way to its ears

bro the icons are actually making my skin crawl

how is that possible

[subtle kiln]

your ui makes me want to vommit in my mouth, but here we are

[digital venture]

thanks for the help guys, can finally go to sleep and hope blizz dmg metter is fixed soon

[midnight mist]

np

[balmy condor]

be like that

[idle radish]

Noted

This addon stuff is weird

I do dev on big website and app and this addon is much more Willy nilly

[subtle kiln]

it's good willy

[midnight mist]

small willy wang

[balmy condor]

willybar

[subtle kiln]

slickwillywangbar

[balmy condor]

can't wait for wang's willy

[mint urchin]

Wang made a meme bar and now it's a full studio dev bar

Hope you are excited to maintain it forever more

You got us hooked

[haughty flicker]

the crypto miner he put in it will make it worthwhile

[fallow canopy]

watching willy's wang development expectantly

[balmy condor]

it also uses like 1/5th the resources that sensei's does

not that either is really a heavy addon

but the lighter the better

[idle radish]

senseis does werid shit man

but okay i need to do smaller updates and figure out how to properly release an addon lol

like i was having no issues on my end and it didnt even load on your end

[balmy condor]

I believe

wangbar stays installed

[mint urchin]

I use Wang bar on all my characters

Just for support

[balmy condor]

that's dedication

I keep it turned on when I log onto the dh

just to make sure awang gets his cryptocoin

I'm doing my part

[mint urchin]

He gotta farm them coins

That auto logout feature really hurting his coin farm

Damn Blizzard

[idle radish]

ty keep logged in all night

it needs time to dig

[balmy condor]

he coded in a jitter that just taps wasd every couple minutes to keep you logged in don't worry

[mint urchin]

Brilliant

[idle radish]

but i can do small udpate tn or tomorrow adding small stuff, maybe its own update for the spec coor stuff

[mint urchin]

Love it

[idle loom]

whats the name?

[subtle kiln]

The name of what?

[steel plover]

is there a good way to track if you have posions applied or not through CDM or another addon?

[subtle kiln]

Missing Class Buff

[steel plover]

Thank you

[haughty flicker]

np

[thorn thorn]

[gray raven]

wang suggestion - spec specific threshold option since we finish at dif values

[balmy condor]

he was working on that earlier

cause he's huge like that

[idle radish]

i had this out earlier, but i released some changes that bricked it for some people

so im on old version

[lime onyx]

another suggestion would be a nice glow or blink effect around the bar when you've exceeded threshold.

[gray raven]

I'm a wang believer!

[lime onyx]

Samesies

[gray raven]

i feel like the wangbar neck tattoo is going to raise some eyebrows at work but i'm all in

[idle radish]

gonna release easy cosmetic stuff maybe late tn if i stay up, like ability to hide energy bar, energy bar text customizing, health bar, a few bug fixes.

profiles will be in the future, but shouldnt be bad to implement

[lime onyx]

yeah the benefit of having the glow as the threshold indicator is that you could set per color combo point variations, even a gradient between two colors if you got that set up. totally visual customizability

i love it as is tho, good job wang

[idle radish]

tyyty

[manic quartz]

Need to give this a try, my old ass needs the ability to have different coloured cp, aka change colour when at 5 or more

[buoyant herald]

its really nice

super simple

sometimes things just need to do one thing really well

once the colour change threshhold by loadout is happening i'll be rolling around like a pig in clover

[rich cliff]

Hi ALL, how is thé feeling if assa in terme off GamePlay and dynamisme please ? Thx a lot

[normal mist]

GamePlay is more simple than it was and dynamisme is okay, thank a lot Baby

[rich cliff]

Thx, will test

[grim jay]

[vestal wren]

the empty space between combo points makes me uncomfortable

[idle roost]

ok guys, how the addon situation?

can we track timers without em or i need ome stuff?

[buoyant herald]

Assa tracking is kinda fine with default, addons just for cosmetic reasons really

[jolly stirrup]

Guys i am sad :( that was Soulhunters Myth. I really hope we can get some tuning soon

[thin widget]

That name is diabolical 💀

[balmy condor]

March

[idle roost]

im guessign the new talents will help with that

[jolly stirrup]

Soon ™

[tall jay]

I need to get on this mythical train lol

[solar wyvern]

"We'd actually prefer you dont play demonology"

Shoutout mop

[drifting cloud]

excuse me that was in wod

[solar wyvern]

Myb i was a child during those times

[drifting cloud]

all time quote for sure tho

[humble verge]

we gamin

[sick scarab]

mm guys now the combat text is always on ? cant hide it .. wtf

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Assassination UI Imports:
Currently not available. Sharing UI's is not as standarized as it was with Weakauras.

For now, browse the following Blizzard HUD and Blizzard CDM imports on Wago:

• Blizzard HUD
• Blizzard CDM

[runic hinge]

Old

[royal lantern]

Stu is probably older then most people here tbh

[runic hinge]

Stu is ready for retirement

[rotund oak]

how old is the man

[idle radish]

Good thing whoever made that addon allows that to be customized!

[coral ibex]

#wangbar

[gray raven]

why yes i will!

[mint urchin]

@idle radish I petition "for the people" be added to the official title

[grave rivet]

is it possible to 'show when target is selected'?

[idle radish]

Like, hide the whole bar when no target?

[grave rivet]

Yes plz!

[sacred oyster]

wang bar is quite a name

anyone know if its possible to have macro cast envenom on current target if target is reachable, but if not, cancel target and switch to first one in front of you? Ive got like
/cast [@target,exists] Envenom
/stopmacro [@target,exists]
/canceltarget
/targetenemy [noharm]
/cast Envenom

but those modifiers dont seem to handle reachability checks. Not at gaming pc at so that above is off memory maybe slightly inaccurate
thinking im prob just gonna have to make it always cancel target and dump on nearest

[idle radish]

Ty

[orchid pewter]

Macros cant do that

[sacred oyster]

k guess ill have to go with always switch target them, which is ultimately what i do in pack clears manually pressing escape

[orchid pewter]

Thats wild i never heard of someone doing that xd

[sacred oyster]

youve never had your envenom fail to cast due to the mob you were targetting moved?

[orchid pewter]

Not really, but if i am not in range i move a step

Or step

[sacred oyster]

thats dps loss when theres 10-15 mobs in front of you and you dont know which one you were targetting is where lol. easier to just dump it on something else in front of you since its aoe anyways

[orchid pewter]

You always have a prio target in packs

[coral ibex]

idk how you're positioning such that you're both losing your target AND you're out of range

that seems like incorrect play that if you correct, this issue disappears

[orchid pewter]

Yea idk that sounds like insane dps loss

If that happens during cds

Gg

[sacred oyster]

well you cant say you never have mobs move on you lol, shit happens, tank moves to get out of a circle, mobs move, now they are more on your left right as you were trying to hit envenom but now you gotta move first to dump it

[coral ibex]

yea, but im never just sitting still long enough that the pack moves away

thats the problem

you should be constantly moving

[runic hinge]

20 lol

[rotund oak]

yeah he's gonna bury us all

[runic hinge]

For sure

[sacred oyster]

i get that, and prio target is ultimately why I was trying to keep first target and only switch if it was going to fail, since not gonna setup a focus target every ad pack. i guess ill prob avoid that macro idea for now, but ive def had plenty of times im still looking at the pack of mobs in front of me but for whatever reason, the one i targetted moved, and me moving is unnecessary, so i just hit escape and let it target something else

[coral ibex]

me moving is unnecessary

strange way to think about it

but good luck

[scarlet orbit]

We are maybe looking to play deathstalker again in midnight in keys. And swapping target with that hero talent is a huge loss because of that stupid mark. So its good to learn to keep in melee range all the time

[sacred oyster]

if there is a pack of 10 mobs in front of me that envenom is all going to hit, and the single target I had ran out of the pack, why would i move to that single vs the large pack in front of me?

if the pack itself moved, yes i would move

[midnight atlas]

wang

[scarlet orbit]

That should only work if the tank loses aggro. Otherwise a pack is pretty much always close enough togheter.
And even if that happens its mostly still good to stay on the big target because most of the time the other mobs are still dying before it. Depense on the specs in play ofc

[sacred oyster]

yeah it doesnt happen all the time, i was just trying to see if can optimize for when it does. theres plenty of adpack clears where theres little movement and can put extra focus in maximizing GCD on rotation. but yeah losing aggro is what i feel like causes it the most when a ranged person draw it out

[solar wyvern]

Im almost 100% sure theres an option to highlight target selected circle to make it brighter and more clear

[humble verge]

pull out the wang

[sacred oyster]

im not seeing much this wangbar does diff over elvui, except maybe charged point color?

[solar wyvern]

Also even if pack moves because tank is dodging a swirly youre more than likely to be moving as well tbh. Also put an indicator over the tanks head (most use square) and track that as an indicator of where a pack is going to move. Its more of a dps loss for you to swap and envenom a non marked target than it is to miss .2-.5 of a gcd correcting misposition

[humble verge]

is elvui even working rn tho

[mint urchin]

Its local sourced, for the people, no big corpo involved.

[sacred oyster]

yeah its been fine for a while

[mint urchin]

the original midnight release was like a week after prepatch but its up and going. They've already done their second version release

[sacred oyster]

was dev builds before official release, had some bugs but mostly was fine, but now its lot more stable. Shadow and Light works fine if you get it off github too.

not like everything else wasnt bombing errors too forcing you to push the error frame to the side and ignore it, so elvs early errors wasnt a huge deal lol.

but thankfully things are getting mostly stable now, if astral keys would finally fix their issue

[humble verge]

my frames arent cooking but whatever

[sacred oyster]

the HP text tag got changed, gotta go update that, its mentioned lot in elvui discord if you are in there

[latent kernel]

anyone who has beta access, how much of a difference does implacable feel like it makes on energy

is it noticeable

[sacred oyster]

|cFF29CC00[health:current:shortvalue]|r | |cFF29CC00[perhp<%]|r

Copy & paste into
X Unitframe - Health "Text Format" box

[solar wyvern]

Yes very, incredibly even

Basically cuts your pooling time in half

[sacred oyster]

is the tldr on pooling hold on using abilities when nearing a CD coming back up? is there a guide on this?

[balmy condor]

When you hit max implacable you don’t press envenom

[stiff fern]

Is implacable in the CDM tracker, I forget

[balmy condor]

No

Well yes but not the important part

[stiff fern]

lol

Classic

[runic hinge]

Do I have to count to 4 or 5

[balmy condor]

5

[stiff fern]

I do like how that worked out design wise

[runic hinge]

I’m going to do it outloud in discord during raid so my guildies know I’m tracking something important

[stiff fern]

Intuitive way to encourage pooling

[runic hinge]

Maybe I’ll get a voice changer for the owl from tootsie pop commercials

https://tenor.com/view/tootsie-roll-owl-gif-20208794

[proven jasper]

how many licks does it take though

did anyone ever find out

[coral ibex]

3

[balmy condor]

Idk how to count

[marsh fjord]

No it's retail

Not classic

[runic hinge]

5 clearly

[royal lantern]

what does it track?

[balmy condor]

The buff you get when it procs

[royal lantern]

wow

[marsh fjord]

Have you guys seen that you can track the buff youcan also now

[vocal basalt]

Are you a fan of Psychostick perchance?

[balmy condor]

Since when

I couldn’t on Monday

[marsh fjord]

I'm to scared to answer because if i troll you i get banned

[balmy condor]

I see

[marsh fjord]

But other people i can troll

[runic hinge]

Never heard of it

[arctic venture]

Wow, it's going to be hard to do without Weakauras and some addons!

Jes.

This is the first time I've logged in this month, and I'm lost.

[royal lantern]

hi lost

[arctic venture]

soo lost.

hero rotation will survive this patch?

🙁

[balmy condor]

No

[humble verge]

my goat?

[humble verge]

oh i mthere but like

i was gonna go default ui until midnight

[sacred oyster]

elvs stable enough now, just sadly not as powerful as it use to be for auras but nothing we can do about that

[humble verge]

why gren

[sacred oyster]

you can adjust the colors there after the |c

FF29CC change to like FF0000 for red

or FFFFFF for whit

[humble verge]

i went just with white

hmmmmmmmge

whats the colour code for black