#assassination

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haughty flicker
balmy condor
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wait true

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I could just become

weak isle
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Secret tech

balmy condor
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insert streamer

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the one who shall not be named

normal mist
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There are so many that fit that category

weak isle
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Man legit just goes live

balmy condor
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the timing was too good tbh

weak isle
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Hahaha

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Man posts insert streamer

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And twitch popup notification drops

haughty flicker
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my streamer

weak isle
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Whispyrttv

normal mist
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OUR streamer

weak isle
waxen oyster
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he'd get more views streaming an actual game

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like league tbh

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wow stream views are a joke

haughty flicker
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hes streaming a very big gamers game right now

royal lantern
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you are our r1 allready dracthyr_love

royal lantern
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what the fuck

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are threats not a bann worthy thing here??

haughty flicker
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bann teagan?

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from dragon age origins?

royal lantern
haughty flicker
lethal arrow
thorn thorn
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Its jover for you

wicked zodiac
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you guys know how to use luxthos cooldwon manager profiles?

mighty rapids
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Is default ui enough for envenom duration tracking in prepatch with wa gone

balmy condor
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yes

sick sail
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I might have that but yeap, the classic one is wayyyyyyy better

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also is it hard to get the legendary dagger from cata for rogues? I didn’t know it existed etf

fallow canopy
fallow canopy
spice sentinel
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fatebound goes from 90s to 120s tomorrow right?

spice surge
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The tier set is getting changed to flat damage instead of cdr yes

spice sentinel
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i feel like at one point they mentioned a change to our tier set that accomplished the 45/90s without the bugs

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am i crazy? or did that just get scrapped

spice surge
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They did, it just didnt work

spice sentinel
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ok

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ty based eleem

jaunty sky
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I mean it literally couldve just been:
2 set small coin dmg buff or whatever
4 set KB has 45s cd now and DM has 1.5min CD now

spice sentinel
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it could have, im like not panicing but just worried we will be shoe-horned into sub as its the only 90s spec now

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was hoping they'd do something with hero talents

balmy condor
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it's far too strong to be hero talented

spice sentinel
balmy condor
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it's like a 19% tier set

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across 3 talents

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but then also like, it's only 2 abilities

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so you make one of the talents 45s kb

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and the other 1:30 dm

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and then what

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like it's just not possible

spice sentinel
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i just wish they like didnt make some fights/trinkets favor 90s >>> 120. like even 90 >> 120 is playable

stark halo
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Any stat changes for us tomorrow?

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Keep it the same, just simpler rotations

spice sentinel
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not for ass

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haste is on the rise for sub/outlaw

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crit strikes thriving

stark halo
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@balmy condor when are the new pins and wowhead segments releasing? Or nothing for pre-patch?

balmy condor
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wowhead is already updated

stark halo
knotty vapor
runic hinge
waxen oyster
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i feel fights have favored 2min cds more often

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than 90s

haughty flicker
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its very strong to have access to both

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it will be missed

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but probably for the best

waxen oyster
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yeah thats what different specs exist for

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though

haughty flicker
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well yeah

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thats why i say its for the best

waxen oyster
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having 2 90s specs was kind of stupid

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and then outlaw

haughty flicker
waxen oyster
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someone's baby mama that didnt get child support paid

waxen oyster
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i cant see it being better if they were both 90 specs

sudden brook
runic hinge
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so real

waxen oyster
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when was the last time rogue was so shit

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that it justified not even bringing atro

balmy condor
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I think it's always been taken since atro

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the last like actual horrendous rogue fight was anduin lowkey

waxen oyster
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and m+ers have issues

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if you dont have friends be prepared to reroll

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because thats what happens with small content

balmy condor
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basically every rogue was perma benched on anduin cause it was so ass to be melee and then also be a rogue

coral ibex
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emplussers man

balmy condor
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you just hardstacked dks

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for the bursht

coral ibex
waxen oyster
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also isnt zac literally in title range

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as outlaw

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when its bin rn

balmy condor
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yes but you have to remember that it's zac and so that's not true because it's literally phys comp it's not meta and so its still bad and actually they could do so much more if it wasn't phys comp

waxen oyster
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idk last i check that channnel

coral ibex
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yea ok bro

waxen oyster
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his tank is linking him losing on boss

coral ibex
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whatever you say

waxen oyster
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seems fine

waxen oyster
sick scarab
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!ui

prisma monolithBOT
slate crown
balmy condor
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You strike myself as a wan aches tachyon fan

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Are you an aches taxhyion ffan

slate crown
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I don’t know what any of those words mean

slate crown
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Oh

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But that is definitely me

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Brain damaged

balmy condor
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SAAAME

radiant quarry
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@balmy condor do you have some UI stuff we can copy or we need to wait until tomorrow?

slate crown
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Oh I know tachyon that’s a class of fundamental particle isn’t it?

balmy condor
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But I will be fixin g my own ui

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With lrepatch

balmy condor
radiant quarry
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i use your WA edit, and i was watching your no addon video yesterady, so im looking for those lol I appreciate you!

balmy condor
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I apppprecatite you too

marsh fjord
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Atleast he responds to you cyklone

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when i todl him i appreciated him

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he ignored me

slate crown
balmy condor
marsh fjord
balmy condor
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Erm

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5 shotss and a miidori sour

marsh fjord
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need more

balmy condor
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We celebrating todayyy

slate crown
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The pack should come with the blue Hawaiian instead of the peach so it can be a trans case that’d be dope

balmy condor
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Real shifft

knotty vapor
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reading that title threw me for a loop lmao

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based compeition

buoyant mauve
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!whispyr

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is there only fuu sheet now?

balmy condor
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Unc ass shit

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I haven’t had a sheet since shadowlands

rotund oak
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whats the details

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unless ofc u are whispyrwife,then i fold

main bobcat
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Wait this one is a repost

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FUCK

midnight atlas
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i never drank moster energy drinks, but i had a dream last night where i was drinking them and became addicted

feels like advertising is working on my subconscious im cooked

jolly stirrup
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@balmy condor Do you have any information on if the Merchant that sells the Raid/Dungeon Mythic pieces for the Jetons will dissapear with the patch tomorrow or will he stay around until end of season/start of Midnight?

tall jay
spice surge
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Addon apocalypse clueless

weak isle
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Addon salvation

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u mean

spice surge
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Now instead of importing a WA

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I go into curseforge or wowup and download a separate addon to get the same functionality

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2008 type shit

scarlet orbit
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back to the past

severe meadow
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(He ran into a star that pull)

crisp coral
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high I am trying assassination on a dummy and I am energy starved very quickly.. do I do something wrong? or it is normal? I believe I do the rotation right (from wowhead)

pliant silo
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Do u have poisons on

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Because yes assa starves quickly

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But no poisons u instantly starve

pliant silo
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Or bad bleed uptime

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Or zero blindside procs (but dummy is at perma 1% execute so usually your energy is inflated on dummy)

crisp coral
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will try again

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thanks!

normal mist
pliant silo
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so it came to mind immediately

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gl

crisp coral
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still with poisons I get energy starved 🙂

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but is definitely better

pliant silo
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lol yep

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it's expected

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but not as extreme

crisp coral
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on 3 dummies:

  1. Apply Garrote
  2. Apply Rupture at 5+ cmbos
  3. Crimson Tempest to spread
  4. Fan of Knives
  5. Envenom if rupture not in refresh time
    if nearby dummies dont have either rupture or garrote I stop using fan of knives to save energy to use Crimson Tempest then repeat
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using Deathmark/Kingsbane/ Vanish+Garrote on CD

severe meadow
crisp coral
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maybe I should skip some envenom and save energy until rupture need refresh?

severe meadow
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Possibly anyway, pre patch and all

severe meadow
wary light
severe meadow
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I assumed midnight questions would be in the midnight channel xd

pliant remnant
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Do NOT press Crimson Tempest to spread before pre-patch

coral ibex
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i need a 57 minute pookie video to explain how midnight assa works now

spice surge
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If you have 5 or more combo points press envenom, otherwise press mutilate/fok

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And keep bleeds up

coral ibex
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theres no pooling around the apex talents?

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i havent kept up with changes

spice surge
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Not really no, it was a minor gain to just not envenom when you had max stacks of apex up

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But thats waiting like 1 second at most because the duration is not long

coral ibex
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i see

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well thats good to hear

spice surge
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Just hit buttons

coral ibex
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me slam

bitter solar
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I'm gonna miss SBS cryge

coral ibex
haughty flicker
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Passive sbs was a vibe

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The active version i didn't like but this passive form was a banger

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But also it just kinda wouldn't do much in midnight

bitter solar
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Yeah not anymore with CT being removed garf_sit

spice surge
haughty flicker
weary stump
flat pier
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Time to wait on the NA team to start pinning the new Loadouts

weak isle
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Isn't all of that already on wowhead

thin meadow
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!macro

prisma monolithBOT
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With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

wary light
# humble verge

Is this the bnet interface? Did blizz pay you? That's a lot of wow tokens

humble verge
wary light
humble verge
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i mean the one week i tried i had 3m

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the only reason i got 1,7 is cause 2 boosts missed 1 person so i got his spot xd

wary light
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She then said "isn't that gold?"

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She doesn't even play

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I'm cooked

rotund oak
coral ibex
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hey how about you share some with me

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i need some gold

humble verge
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nooj

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your romanian ass

rotund oak
humble verge
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can go steal some copper

coral ibex
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ROMANIAN

humble verge
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wait

rotund oak
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close enough

humble verge
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what are you hungarian

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i forgot

coral ibex
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HUNGARIAN

humble verge
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sorry

coral ibex
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this mf thinks i'm european

humble verge
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croatian

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wait

rotund oak
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Greek with some Brit in me

coral ibex
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holy moly

humble verge
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who the fuck is romanian again

rotund oak
gleaming geyser
rotund oak
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bro got paid and went str8 to smokin'

humble verge
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whar

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i dont smoke

subtle tundra
subtle tundra
rotund oak
humble verge
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wait its not vueko

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i dont even remember

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whos romanian

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im just checking my old mentions

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wait maybe it was varas

gleaming geyser
humble verge
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REAL

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wait

humble verge
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nooj

woeful galleon
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Is there midnight sims yet

humble verge
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no theres no midnight sims

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u can play sims 4 tho

coral ibex
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sim dn

subtle tundra
humble verge
manic quartz
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Any good UI addons for rogue in midnight?

stray ivy
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I thought they took out add-ons

merry raven
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they removed most of the combat related stuff that addons could access, but they didn't just blanket remove addons

upbeat gale
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
coral ibex
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yea im a fan of the new DN addon

severe meadow
balmy condor
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I love delicious nectarines

spice surge
coral ibex
royal lantern
coral ibex
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W take

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clementines own

royal lantern
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Boomer fruit

spice surge
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My favourite citrus is yozu, but that shit aint available here ever

spice surge
slim hamlet
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Weren't the new talents supposed to come out with this prepatch?

haughty flicker
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yes?

slim hamlet
haughty flicker
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is na back up already

slim hamlet
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EU

haughty flicker
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well

fresh kelp
slim hamlet
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oh so the wowhead timer is just a lie then

royal lantern
slim hamlet
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idk man I haven't played this game in 2 years

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I just assumed the wowhead literal countdown might be correct dead

fresh kelp
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it's correct for us NA chuds

haughty flicker
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bro trusted wowhead

slim hamlet
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it even has EU checked but I guess that doesnt change the countdown part then

runic hinge
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get rekt noob

charred obsidian
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um so... is assa still bugged with its energy "in the prepatch"

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oh wow i checked the pins and saw a list of bugs. damn

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it just works

royal lantern
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whats bugged with energy

haughty flicker
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probably thinking about the apex talent

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which wont matter in prepatch bc we dont have it

charred obsidian
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ah thats a apex thing. oops my bad

spice surge
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But also its not bugged

haughty flicker
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yeah i figured it was fixed by now

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but the command still works in the midnight channel so

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or did yesterday anyway

charred obsidian
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There is or was something that made you get 1 energy instead if 3? something like that. Is this the apex talent then?

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or maybe ive been just trolled lmao

haughty flicker
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oh i think that was something weird about venomous wounds

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but also it is incredibly minor if its even still a thing

charred obsidian
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ah i see

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thanks for clarifying

gilded oasis
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I miss SBS already

charred obsidian
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I miss nothing as long as the spec runs smooth

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Well. with the exeption of being way too simple perhaps

royal hazel
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We got him boys! (The blueberry!)

crude helm
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Back from vacation!

balmy condor
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time to purge the channel here as well and repopulate with info

royal hazel
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The purge is upon us

runic hinge
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Goodbye @haughty flicker

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Wait

haughty flicker
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Am i dying

severe meadow
haughty flicker
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It was only a matter of time until whispyr killed me tbh

lean plover
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this is the end for the best channels in this discord

uneven plume
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i thought FB is unplayable in prepatch

balmy condor
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????

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according to what

grand trail
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to me

uneven plume
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arent there 1000 bugs rn with FB?

balmy condor
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there's 1000 bugs rn with everything

uneven plume
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well in beta*

balmy condor
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but most of them are midnight

uneven plume
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i see

fallow canopy
balmy condor
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it's not like this patch matters for shit

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who cares

fallow canopy
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Gotta get the rank 1 something or the other for prepatch

uneven plume
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i already got those

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i just wanted some fun

balmy condor
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yeh I'm waiting for servers to come up so I can say rank 1 rogue prepatch in my stream title

uneven plume
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thought it was bugged but yah that is midnight

unique lark
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Have devs explained anywhere why they seem to struggle so much with making assassination work?

balmy condor
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what

fallow canopy
severe meadow
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Outside of bugs, which every class in the game has, what's wrong with it exactly

unique lark
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I just don't understand why the spec's so bug-prone. Consider the bugs in WWI from start to finish. Then they punt again. I just want to understand.

subtle kiln
balmy condor
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its.... not that bad

spice surge
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Its not an assassination problem

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Its a world of warcraft problem

severe meadow
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Blizzard spaghetti code

balmy condor
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like realistically

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there's maybe 2-3 bugs

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that actually matter

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from war within

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the rest is just random number slop that gets tuned anyways

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so who gives a shit

severe meadow
balmy condor
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oh no my talent is doing 10% less damage and so I take something else and then blizzard buffs my spec by 3% overall to compensate because it's weak

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big whoop

unique lark
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yeah, shiv fixed one of the dumber ones after basically, but damn. so janky

balmy condor
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this is legit every class in the game mate

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storm earth and fire has not worked properly once in over a decade

subtle kiln
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Blood DKs have more bugs than all 3 rogue specs combined. omegalul

balmy condor
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ye

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tanks in general are super rough

unique lark
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of my toons, assassination rogue is jankiest, but was genuinely asking b/c I still lack perspective

severe meadow
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What's jank about it

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Like what bugs is making you think this

lean plover
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all specs are bugged, theres only few that affect gameplay or limit your choices

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few bugs i mean

runic hinge
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Tier set bug is gone. We’re saved

unique lark
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100% deathstalker bug(s). It was just dumb. Easy enough to work around, but so dumb that it still has issues, hence my initial question about what makes it challenging to make function.

severe meadow
spice surge
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Theres similar bugs across all specs

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You probably just dont know about them

cedar elm
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sin deadge gg

normal mist
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gg

unique lark
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Correct and they will have their own explanations, but I'd be interested to read about assassination/deathstalker's specifically is all.

cedar elm
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are we finally free of the bugstalkers mark

unique lark
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seems like with trickster's strength

haughty flicker
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It still lives on

balmy condor
spice surge
balmy condor
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not bug wise

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just gameplay wise

haughty flicker
lean plover
haughty flicker
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it counts

lean plover
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how did they manage to make dsm worse gameplay wise

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wtf

spice surge
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The "sometimes disappear and wont come back" bug garf_sit

unique lark
balmy condor
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huge

fallow canopy
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see you tomorrow

balmy condor
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no one saw this coming

lean plover
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thanks na for betatesting day 1 of patch

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again

balmy condor
fallow canopy
nova aspen
pliant falcon
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Can someone please drop me a plater link from Whispyr? Like the old ones , i cannot find them anymore

unique lark
# lean plover What?

by accident or intention, Deathstalker's issues encourage players to try Trickster, which has been generally bad outside of raids so far.

lean plover
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this is assa, theres no trickster

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you meant for sub?

unique lark
lean plover
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but fatebound is good now

unique lark
lean plover
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i dont mind not playing ds

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until they fix the mark

balmy condor
lean plover
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2 years with it is enough

balmy condor
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I mean

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we didn't really play deathstalker outside of m+ this season

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god bless

lean plover
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yeah

fallow canopy
lean plover
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which is good

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but now its also good with more targets

fallow canopy
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and they played kinda different too

severe meadow
haughty flicker
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imagine not just playing sub on sh

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actually, imagine showing up for sh prog at all

severe meadow
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I did a little sub for NK but hated it

haughty flicker
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just show up last day and kill next time

fallow canopy
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I always went ds but my last kill was on october dracthyr_kek

severe meadow
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Fair, I don't even know when we killed hunters

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We've been doing only Dimmy for like two months it feels like

haughty flicker
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we killed it once and officers decided we were never doing it again

fallow canopy
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based

severe meadow
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I think we did it twice in total

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We had really bad boot rng

balmy condor
severe meadow
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I think between heroic / mythic we only saw leather boots twice

haughty flicker
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i was the last leather person to get heroic boots except for our monk tank

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then i bought mythic with dinar

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we saw

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so much fucking cloth

severe meadow
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it was plate for us

haughty flicker
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we were rolling them off for transmog and our plate hadnt even seen a single drop

severe meadow
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I think we actually saw cloth less than leather

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it was always mail and plate

fallow canopy
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our platies struggled with the boots everyone else kinda chilled

severe meadow
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I had normal boots until dinars

haughty flicker
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yeah that was our dks lmao

subtle kiln
tropic jewel
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!bugs

lofty nymph
tropic jewel
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no bugs for assa i guess :>

humble verge
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only 1 rwl guild killed dimmy this evening it seems

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@balmy condor did u see like a bunch of people were removed from m+ leaderboards - atleast EU, rating shot up by like 8 score pepeLaff

manic quartz
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
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Assassination UI Imports:
Currently not available. Sharing UI's is not as standarized as it was with Weakauras.

For now, browse the following Blizzard HUD and Blizzard CDM imports on Wago:

balmy condor
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Prepatch Info

Everything has been consolidated for 12.0 release, including chat commands and the #assassination-faq being updated.

Please check Wowhead/Icyveins, or the FAQ for info first

humble verge
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not being made to restealth every fight smh

balmy condor
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also I'm getting sick so pls be nice to me or I will cum

tawdry halo
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are you sick or is it a hangover

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?

spice surge
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Damn he really did go and update the FAQ

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That means i should probably do that as well smh my head

balmy condor
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the headache is def hangover

tawdry halo
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worst kind of sick

balmy condor
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the throat/nose is not alcohol induced I'm afraid

subtle kiln
balmy condor
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I have photoshop open still

spice surge
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Sure make it purple-ish

flint tusk
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I'm curious on peoples opinions of duel speccing in midnight.
Last few tiers i've been assass/sub due to similar stats.
seems assass/outlaw in midnight. minus the obvious weapon issue x.x

subtle kiln
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Maybe worry about it in 2 months

balmy condor
lean plover
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i mean you use whatever stats on assa

flint tusk
subtle kiln
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Frost DK then

haughty flicker
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wtf theres an faq

flint tusk
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eww

wanton remnant
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so what we thinking? assasination going to be top rogue spec for midnight pre patch and midnight season1?

normal mist
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INB4 "does haste fix it and should i be stacking haste?"

normal mist
wanton remnant
balmy condor
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fuck if I know mate

wanton remnant
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lol

subtle kiln
balmy condor
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none of the theorycrafters are working on prepatch cause it's a clown patch

wanton remnant
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true

balmy condor
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midnight is buggy and untuned and 3 months out

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nobody knows shit

subtle kiln
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def sounds like assa is BiS

haughty flicker
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i know whats bis but out of respect to the rogue theorycrafters i wont be spreading that information before they're ready

wanton remnant
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ive only played ass and outlaw

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oh shyt brother @haughty flicker has the deets? 0.o

wanton remnant
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lol im just happy with less buttons

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i just want to set my ui and then wait till next week for the event and questline to start

gritty laurel
acoustic roost
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I have 18.5% haste should I get more? garf_sit

balmy condor
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I have 12% haste, 34% crit, 65% mastery, 6% vers

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Guys

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Should I get a life

pure tide
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is the auto attack still bugged

haughty flicker
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damn

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they didnt squish enough to get us back down to 260

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we couldve been back

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wait no they did actually

nova kelp
# balmy condor I have 12% haste, 34% crit, 65% mastery, 6% vers

you need to recraft your crafted pieces for "git gud" and "don't be shit", make sure you regem to SPECIFICALLY 3 "touch grass", 2 "relax ffs", and it's up to you if you want to use the meta gem. Any spare slots are naturally "idgaf"

also bring back reforging

severe meadow
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Is liking reforging a hot take

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I liked reforging

pure tide
balmy condor
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Fatebound yes

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Maybe

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Probably

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Idk

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Servers ain’t up

nova kelp
#

probably

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if it doesn't seem to be, get suspicious

balmy condor
#

Brother we STAY suspicious

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I’m always on my sus

haughty flicker
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for now

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assa haste tax in the last titan

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im calling it now

polar rampart
#

what's the texture of assa?

balmy condor
#

in my head it's like mossy kinda

polar rampart
#

noted

nimble tartan
#

i need a break from us sorry sin ❤️

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ill see yall in prog

tall jay
#

Can’t wait to play these new talents!!!! Let’s go…who has the start button to these servers

exotic hearth
#

@balmy condor do you think (mainly in prepatch, but maybe S1 as well) that well need to take iron wire to help with int more now that healers are losing theirs?

balmy condor
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hell no

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iron wire is giga troll now

spice surge
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Its also bad

balmy condor
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yeh

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shit talent with a big dps loss

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actually unusable

spice surge
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Or atleast ENORMOUSLY worse than it was in TWW

granite thistle
#

Is Sub/Sin about to be insano mode

spice surge
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Because you dont cleave it

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And casting multiple garrotes on different targets would be griefing your damage

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And thats without factoring in the talent points like whispyr said

exotic hearth
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Gotcha. Already forgot that well spread shit through CT now instead of the ability itself lmao

lime onyx
#

if they made it spread with CT, i think it would be fantastic for keys

spice surge
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That would make it way better yes

balmy condor
#

if it spread with CT, it would be just bad

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rather than utter dogshit

lime onyx
#

yeah like dps loss for me but less opportunity for team to grief a key

balmy condor
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I mean it's just too slow with CT

haughty flicker
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me praying ct spreads garrote to the casters

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instead of the 20 shitters around them

balmy condor
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like if it worked with CT you'd be in a spot where it's just straight up worse than it is right now

haughty flicker
balmy condor
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and right now it's pretty bad

lime onyx
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i feel like kicks are a big problem rn unless you have a prot pally

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at least on my beta keys

spice surge
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For some reason blizzard decided that the 100% speedshroud sub has should be put in the same boat as iron wire

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Instead of being in the utility rows its now in the dps rows

haughty flicker
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rip speed shroud

spice surge
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So you never take it

haughty flicker
#

possibly worst change in midnight

worn badger
#

ignoring potential max damage. which of the 3 rogue specs has the best rotation that matches class fantasy now ?

haughty flicker
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all of them are builder>spender with recolors

lime onyx
#

apparently outlaw feels amazing so screw whispyr for saying that, have to try it out now

haughty flicker
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so pick your favorite color

severe meadow
#

Yeah I

haughty flicker
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im partial to purple

severe meadow
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would screw Whispyr

haughty flicker
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but green and red arent bad

severe meadow
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or whatever that guy said

worn badger
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ok. if sin is a mossy texture what texture are sub/outlaw ?

lime onyx
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sub is matte black

haughty flicker
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the only word needed to describe sub is purple

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outlaw i'd rather not say

lime onyx
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outlaw is grainy wood

worn badger
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i did shrooms and watched underworld once. that movie can only described as purple

lime onyx
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your trip hasn't stopped. Wake up, it's been years Jace.

worn badger
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i wouldnt be suprised

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they were really good shrooms my hippie aunt from new york grew

spice surge
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Is the north alpha (NA) server up yet? Hmm

haughty flicker
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delayed another hour

severe meadow
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Negative

haughty flicker
spice surge
worn badger
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servers have been up for 2 hours.. your just delayed

haughty flicker
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servers not up until midnight

polar rampart
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thematic

severe meadow
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not the dreaded dracmpreg

spice surge
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Its also patch 12.0

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Which is thematic as well

worn badger
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almost anything can happen day!

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also ,i dont know what texture outlaw is, but i do know people who main it still carry pogs and slammers around and play competitively

split veldt
#

whats the recommended M+ spec in the faq? fate or death?

severe meadow
polar rampart
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imagine how old you have to be to even know what a pog and slammer is

severe meadow
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All my homies hate mark management

worn badger
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its gonna be a month and a half of nothing matters, followed by 2 weeks of emergency tuning. so just play the one you like the rotation of ?

severe meadow
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We live

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go go go

polar rampart
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i mean i played with them in elementary school and im pretty old :p

worn badger
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me too =/

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ive spent almost half my life playing this dam game... wtf

runic hinge
#

whipsyr im logged in can you give me your ui

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pls

flint tusk
#

He may or may not be uiing as we speak

drifting cloud
split veldt
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wait, we can tmog all 1hers on daggers now?

runic hinge
nova flax
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
lethal arrow
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anyone got one of them cooldown managers

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or someting

lime onyx
#

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import to cdm should work

lethal arrow
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ty

split veldt
#

Sin with t-fury

lethal arrow
#

why are my textures still so fked

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what are these things

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ok i fgured out the health bar

thorn fjord
#

Hi friends

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Welcome to the thunderdome

runic hinge
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thanks for having me

lime dune
#

can someone please help me with the changes im on a verge of a breakdown

severe meadow
#

Hmm

lime dune
#

help...

upper spear
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am i reading this right? Fatebound for M+ now?

lime dune
#

i enterd a raid with guild and did sub 7k

severe meadow
upper spear
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noice

gusty lichen
#

doing horrible raid damage, fun stuff 🙂

lime dune
#

ye

gusty lichen
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like 30k dps or somethin, warriors doin 10k more

knotty vapor
#

yeah uh

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we're cooked

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it's over

white orchid
#

game's gone

lime dune
# knotty vapor

want to learn together, im going through and trying to find some stuff that still works

knotty vapor
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im just in a random heroic run

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then im probs gonna close the game cuz i dont wanna think about how bad this is

lime dune
#

ye

restive falcon
split veldt
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let me mog any 1her onto a dagger

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maces, axes etc

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not sure why it says kingslayers still

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weird

runic hinge
#

@drifting cloud what do i put on my shiv keybind

drifting cloud
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distract

severe meadow
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Slammed a quick 10, felt good on FB

drifting cloud
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or poison knife

magic goblet
#

So is it known that Crimson Tempest generates a combo point out of combat without hitting something, unlike Fan? Is it optimal to build combo points out of combat?

radiant quarry
#

I am unable to import edit mode stuff. I cannot type in the new layout name to approve it. anyone else have that issue?

sour sand
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wtf is up with trnasmog prices

radiant quarry
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its only a once per item cost

gusty lichen
#

does anyone else's personal reserouce bar not work?> only under player frame works

sour sand
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wait no its 1500 every time i try

waxen oyster
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you mog the slot

past forum
waxen oyster
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so even if you change helms its the same look

sour sand
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ok

runic hinge
waxen oyster
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everyone getting ready to mog their 1 pixel thunderfuries

severe meadow
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Yeah TF is so fucking ugly xd

sour sand
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Im a fan of sin mage tower skin

waxen oyster
#

magetower only works with some mogs imo

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mfw they make 2 of them blue

waxen oyster
severe meadow
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Would've been cool if the bigger weapons had a different animation or something

waxen oyster
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Yeah....

severe meadow
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I'm using some of the legion swords and it does look goofy as fuck

upper spear
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this look about normal? (overall)

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just testing in a random 6 flood

severe meadow
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this was my 10

sour sand
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oh wow u can transmog daggers to anything

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gotta go get more fist wep mogs

upper spear
digital venture
#

!ui

prisma monolithBOT
#

Assassination UI Imports:
Currently not available. Sharing UI's is not as standarized as it was with Weakauras.

For now, browse the following Blizzard HUD and Blizzard CDM imports on Wago:

waxen oyster
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how would one "mutilate" with a fist

severe meadow
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I was hitting CT maybe 2-3 times

sour sand
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what they said using one button rotatio nis only 5% loss for sin lol

waxen oyster
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Well i guess ones with a sharp end you can jab the sharp end into someone

sour sand
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guess im going sleep mode

waxen oyster
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Idk playing a rogue class without daggers just feels thematically wrong.

sour sand
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dw axe mog for my orc sin rogue, lit

waxen oyster
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yes outlaw players included in that statement

severe meadow
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I'm just going for scent stacks

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I haven't looked at anything optimal so maybe not playing it correctly, but

sour sand
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there are maces with flail gfx, those are funny to dw

waxen oyster
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well prot has a full on flail

sour sand
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😄

waxen oyster
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but its a "sword"

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allegedly

severe meadow
waxen oyster
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now i feel bad turning down that trinket

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2 weeks ago

severe meadow
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Wait did they kill him in 4 minutes

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how nerfed is the fight

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xd

waxen oyster
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4:33

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lmfao

knotty vapor
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i haven't felt this useless in a raid since ToS

severe meadow
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pre patch is a bit of a meme

knotty vapor
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yeah just feels like shit being 10th on the meters in a pug lmao

earnest kettle
#

is anyone getting a lua error when mouseovering trinkets?

knotty vapor
#

bosses are dying so fast only specs with massive opening burst get to be on top

split grail
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Dumb question: Is pandemic still a thing, cause that's jsut one more thing to manually track

knotty vapor
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it is

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and the built in bars track it

split grail
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Do they?

knotty vapor
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yeah they'll light up in pandemic range

split grail
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Neat. Thanks

knotty vapor
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np

upper spear
#

ok this daggers Tmog change is currently melting my brain and i wish i had known about this sooner

split grail
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I still wish you could hide weps though

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Like monks can

terse ruin
#

anyone got a nice import for CD manager?

upper spear
waxen oyster
#

male nelf

gray hazel
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Losing combo points on targets kinda sucks

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and they massacured the personal recource dispay? it missing most of the functionality now 🙁

upper spear
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what is this

balmy condor
#

boss timer

upper spear
sick sail
#

wowup still a thing?

pure bridge
#

Did I miss something or does Fan of Knives now guarantee a combo point per target hit?

balmy condor
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it does not do that

nimble tartan
#

i got mogged so hard as sin

pure moth
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default blizzard never came up with a disable stealth bar did they, eh?

pure bridge
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Guess Im getting lucky then.

main blaze
pure bridge
gray raven
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FB M+ prepatch energy seems like a non issues or am I not dooming hard enough yet

oak tangle
#

so is it not even worth logging in yet without apex talents?

woeful galleon
#

is there midnight beta sim rankings?

timber pawn
#

just cleared Mythic MFO in like 90 minutes but my damage was uuuuuubbbeeerrrr shit need to figure out why I went from top 3 to turbo poop

gray raven
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it all seems to be working fine, i just want a personal resource display that does not look like total ass

golden loom
oak tangle
#

are we not also just missing the entire resource sustain of the spec right now?

ocean rune
#

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I am having trouble finding improved garrote in the cooldown manager
can someone tell me where it is?

main blaze
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Improved Garrote is a talent. Do you mean vanish?

ocean rune
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I wanted to track the buff itself
is that not possible?

golden loom
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isnt there a bar tracking the duration of improved garrote? atleast there was one on beta

ocean rune
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I cant seem to find it
I saw it in the whispyr video

main blaze
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There is a bar in buffs

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I find it annoying though cause its just the buff from stealth and not the actual garrote

ocean rune
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for some reason its only showing me regular garrote

subtle crown
#

!bugs

pulsar coral
#

are ghost auras still a thing? so i can have a big grey "Rupture" over a mob that isn't ruptured?

subtle crown
#

Wasn't Serrated Bone Spike removed? I still have it as a buff saying I have 3 prepared

elfin flame
#

NEW UI JUST DROPPED

wise plume
#

i miss carnage

golden loom
jovial quiver
#

anyone figure out how to make prism stacks show in the cooldown manager?

sand relic
#

The AOE swaps for the builds in the sin-faq post dont quite work, you cant get to poison bomb without dropping a point further down the tree

elfin flame
#

can anyone confirm if fatebound still bugged

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with the heads coin flip thing

sand relic
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I'm assuming for something like Dimmy you would not take CT so keep doomblade and poison bomb just isnt available?

static glacier
elfin flame
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or maybe it had something to do with lucky coin idr

sand relic
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watching a stream earlier the adds are getting literally global'd with the new tuning

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so no need for CT

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I want bomb for a bit of extra cleave but I dont see a point that could move for it

pulsar coral
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dumb question, but why is CT giving me so many combo points

lime onyx
#

Just killed Dimensius! Sin rogue is not doing too hot in dmg rn

pulsar coral
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it says awards 1 combo point

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but i get more than one

lime onyx
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With crits

pulsar coral
#

ic

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in any case, not really a fan of having to hit CT like 10 times... why does it only hit 2 additional mobs...

terse ruin
#

might aswell remove CT and make FOK put the bleeds with a talent

static glacier
pulsar coral
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it turns CT into the most common builder which feels bizarre

polar rampart
#

im trying to upgrade a dagger, it says i dont have the currency, but i do indeed have the currency

somber sparrow
golden loom
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alright anyone know why filtering out debuffs in plater is not working monkahmm

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is it cooked

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cause the default frames already filter out all that shit but even adding it to the blacklist in plater doesnt do anything

digital elk
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Pretty sure that's how addons see debuffs

It's a bucket, not spell1, spell2, spell3

You can't blacklist a debuff because the addon doesn't know whether it's there or not

golden loom
digital elk
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You have "show only player buffs" and "show important buffs", I think that's all you get

maybe limiting it to the first 4, but you won't be able* to only show rupture and garrote

golden loom
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guess its default plates time then

eternal hawk
#

Is there an addon that displays missing poisons? Used to have an interactable WA for it and now im just forgetting to reapply

marsh fjord
#

hows pre-patch boys

uneven magnet
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we’ll wake you up when its time

golden loom
#

not bad not bad

sick bridge
#

I don't understand the FAQ. Why do we ignore Envenom duration and not pool before Kingsbane?

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Don't we want 100% Envenom uptime during Kingsbane?

uneven magnet
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*i dont have a phd in rogue if im wrong im sorry

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like if your timings are right during a fight it might be better but if you were gimped by movement or planets being aligned wrong, just send it dont pool

civic trellis
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apex talent makes it you always have max cp after kingsbane no matter what right? guess that one sec of no envenom isnt worth delaying cds

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my assumption

sick bridge
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I don't think you would delay Deathmark, you would just make sure you have fairly high energy going into Envenom

uneven magnet
sick bridge
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vs. the FAQ suggesting you just cast Envenom on cooldown

civic trellis
#

right now chaining doesnt matter as much

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in midnight it does

uneven magnet
sick bridge
#

That also doesn't make any sense, does it? Envenom = more poisons = more damage during Kingsbane

uneven magnet
golden loom
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well in midnight you will be able to go DM -> kingsbane -> envenom right away cause of apex

sick bridge
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I don't understand why Deathmark has anything to do with it

uneven magnet
sick bridge
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Right, but there are two options: you cast Envenom on cooldown and go into Deathmark + Kingsbane with low energy and can't chain, or you pool 200 energy before Deathmark + Kingsbane and go into it chaining for the full duration

uneven magnet
#

during deathmark, poison applications are applied twice

sick bridge
#

100% Envenom uptime = more doubled poisons, no?

uneven magnet
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mathematically sending deathmark asap is better than delaying envenom for uptime

plain jewel
#

anyone know if it's possible to put combo points on nameplate with blizz nameplates?

uneven magnet
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esp with no apex

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will prob change with apex and higher stats

civic trellis
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my understanding is
you want a lot of poisons so you hit the 50 stacks of kingsbane buff fast
after that point poison applications dont matter as much
is that wrong?

night cipher
civic trellis
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so then pooling isnt as big since you dont care about envenom long into kingsbane, just need it at the start

uneven magnet
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its basically been how its been for the last however many years kingsbane has been in game

golden loom
uneven magnet
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except that one tier where we didnt talent it

civic trellis
polar rampart
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im using sensie and the arc thing, seems to work well enough

split grail
#

Wait is cut to the chase no longer a thing? We have to manually snd again?

golden loom
# uneven magnet mathematically sending deathmark asap is better than delaying envenom for uptime

well during warwithin you always wanted to envenom before going into cds so you had both bleeds and envenom buff going into cds
now during season 3 sometimes you skip the envenom just because the timers are so tight with stuff like nexus king platforms or dimmy platforms, but ideally you would want to get an envenom in before cds, just so that the global kingsbane goes out you are already autoattacking (main source of poison procs) with envenom buff going

golden loom
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so pretty sure that in prepatch its still best to envenom -> dm -> KB
with apex talents you will have a guaranteed envenom right after KB anyways so that is probably the reason for that changing (+ the apex talent slashes already proc poisons 100% of the time right?)

pure tide
#

!bugs

ripe canyon
#

Anyone knows why my Stealth Bar is gone as soon as i activated Cooldown Manager? 😮

civic trellis
hidden crown
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so sad shiv is no longer useful

jolly stirrup
#

Nerdge I would like to report an error in the FAQ Nerdge

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Shouldn't it be: "need to be maintained" garf_sit

jaunty notch
#

!bug

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!bugs

wind totem
weak isle
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Its luxthos iirc

golden loom
#

nah

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its senseiclassresourcebars

weak isle
#

Yea he uses that

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So that's why I said that

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But that's the addon

wind totem
#

Thanks both of you

golden loom
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ah, haven't looked into what hes cooked up

hidden crown
#

I like how people made addons for weakauras because people cant get used to something different

junior yoke
#

uffffff.............

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mages shatter man

hidden crown
#

got I hate this dmg meter

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what class is that mage

junior yoke
#

frost

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I mean he was soloing pulls

spring briar
#

Details works or not ?

junior yoke
#

devourer and I could not even hit

balmy condor
#

no extra functionality

spring briar
#

Ok

hidden crown
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I DID IT

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And nothing of value was lost..

junior yoke
#

I'm blind XD

hidden crown
#

oh man doing this on alts is gonna be a pain in the ass...

junior yoke
#

i can't make weakauras work

hidden crown
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it doesnt work

junior yoke
#

fok

hidden crown
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it got discontined

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(blizzard totally paid them to stop working)

junior yoke
#

llittlewigs/bigwigs neither?

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damn 😄

hidden crown
#

dbm still works

flint tusk
#

Bros been living under a rock

flint tusk
junior yoke
#

hold on, outlaw not bad lol

jaunty notch
#

guys what do you use as a replacement for whyspir wa ? I cba doing it from scratch

pure field
#

Can we only track dots on the unit hp?

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There's no other tracker like a bar or some sort.

agile wedge
#

team, does anybody know an addon to customize my personal resource display? i mainly play std ui but i cant take this one from blizz

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the combopoints are not centred to my health and energy bars

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this hurts in my eyes

velvet cairn
agile wedge
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but this is a full ui package no?

velvet cairn
#

should have customizable personal resource bar changes

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or rather customability

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eg typical yellow bar or w/e with counter if u want that or bars that go up

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zorthas has a short video about which auras replace what, he also shows basics of how the new one works

agile wedge
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thanks, will have a look

ornate dawn
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@agile wedge you can use Sensei Class Resource Bar

agile wedge
#

let me check

balmy condor
#

yeh sensei class resource bar

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can confirm

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works gud

ornate dawn
#

tis BIS

agile wedge
#

on another note, does bugsack still work? 😄

balmy condor
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bugsack works I assume yeah

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or alternatively, just don't bloat your UI

agile wedge
#

i am one of the most std ui guys in the world

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i swear!

ornate dawn
#

@agile wedge

these are some of the options to dabble with, on sensei

agile wedge
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will directly try, thanks again guys

balmy condor
#

width mode sync with cooldown manager

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is a great setting

velvet cairn
#

Also quick question. Does plater track pandemic window still, in a case im not targeting a sub target but still want to refresh dots when pandemic hits?

balmy condor
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in what situation would be that ever happen

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but I think I've heard that platynator (and I assume plater) can do that

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seems like an insane niche to want an addon for though

final star
#

since it's off main target it would be falling off on main target

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so you'd just CT no?

golden loom
final star
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unless you've got the longest living 2nd target without CT talented

balmy condor
#

yeah CT copies the timer and everything

velvet cairn
balmy condor
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so the only way this would ever happen

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is you're in a multi-target situation

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without CT

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but you're multi-dotting by hand for some reason

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and not swapping

final star
balmy condor
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but the second target is also living long enough