assassination

[shrewd night]

"Do you think other grasseaters consent to where their body parts are going?"

[stuck knoll]

[sharp viper]

[stuck knoll]

Grasseater supreme

[shrewd night]

Such a valid word for you

[stuck knoll]

WHAT THE FUCK

[shrewd night]

[stuck knoll]

Ruby said it was a nice thing phrased in the most insulting way possible

[shrewd night]

"it"?

[indigo sphinx]

The Zine special, finds a way to be toxic no matter the situation, respect it

[stuck knoll]

Respect the grustle

[stuck knoll]

WDYM IT CALLING ME A GRASSEATER ISNT A PERSON

[shrewd night]

Bruv, grasseater can mean many things. Zine maybe meant cow lowkey calling you fat. But I interpreted it as gazelle because you are majestic, strong and fear no lion

Its when Ronkles is quiet I grow the most concerned

[cunning needle]

wtf what about the RFWL

[red schooner]

I'm just gonna watch

[cunning needle]

[red schooner]

Dunno, stopped having fun with the game so I quit for a bit. I'm in a play one year, take one year break cycle

[cunning needle]

understandable tbh

have a nice day

[red schooner]

No point making myself play a game I don't wanna play

[stuck knoll]

There was a bit of a stinker last night I will not lie

[shrewd night]

Lets just say homie

Im glad you are online today, unless this is ruby trying to cover for your menty b

[red schooner]

Also the thought of dimmy prog did not fill me with joy

[scarlet orbit]

We have 100 pulls on dimi and saw platform 1 just 4 times

[crude wigeon]

dw lad i spent 400 on saladbar

[red schooner]

We were 228 and that was already painful

[scarlet orbit]

funny enough that one was kinda fine for us we needed like 230 on that one

[crude wigeon]

needless to say i changed guilds .

For last

[red schooner]

Guild started dimmy last night, I was playing powerwash sim instead

Living my best life

[scarlet orbit]

Was also thinking about taking a break but we have the hardest boss in wow atm to progress. Our kader just shrunk to like 20 the last weeks so im a bit trapped 🙂

[shrewd night]

Honestly bro

Same

I was farming through the pw2 missions

[red schooner]

That game is so comfy, got the chapel to clean next

[normal mist]

did someone say PWS??

the game where you easily spend 2 hours cleaning a house and be like "wait its 3 am already??"

[shrewd night]

Chapel was cozy, managed to stay on the ground and clean the entire thing outside of the top of the chandelier

[red schooner]

Yeah gonna do it tonight, just finished the roller disco last night. Chill times.

[red schooner]

There's the sequel now

For more powerwash

[shrewd night]

The roller disco was nice, I dont remember what I did last night, all I remember is doing the chapel and some giant climbing wall structure, holy it was huge

[red schooner]

Climbing wall was fun, I like the little seat thing.

[shrewd night]

idk what to make of the surface cleaner

Its slower than just wide nozzle regular pw

[red schooner]

Also the hitbox on it feels janky. I got my trident cleaner now though

[shrewd night]

Im just stright up saving for the holy grail of power washer

I need that POWER

[red schooner]

I'm just selling and trading up as I go along. Couple more levels and I'll have the max power one

[shrewd night]

Oh shit, true I can just sell my shit and buy it

[crude wigeon]

lowk hella underrated game yall should check out dave the diver If you like pws

[shrewd night]

Didnt find dave to be that much fun honestly compared to lowbrainpower pws

[static glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/zaunvi-caitvitwt-gif-1251875630135871970

[stuck knoll]

Wdym Ronkles is perfectly fine nothing happened

[shrewd night]

Say the codeword

[crude wigeon]

Turn off Brain and catch fish perfect

[main bobcat]

Must've been the wind...

[weary stump]

It was a missed input

[desert vault]

Just looking at sims for what to buy with dinar today, already have prism and boots, Antenna sims highest of course but wasn't sure since all I'm really doing now is prog on Salad and eventually dimensius?

[golden loom]

if u wanna sim antenna for dimmy put it at like 40% missrate

pacemaker is a pretty good option if u dont have that aswell

but using antenna even with it being worse on those fights might still be decent

[desert vault]

I am looking with a script that someone pasted somewhere, supposed to do the adjustment for the miss rate

so will see what it says

[main bridge]

It’s in the UI. No script needed

[desert vault]

oh I see it now, ok let me retry cause the script I used made antenna sim even better than it did before the script

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/stDoih3jNCcYuUzrzif3fq

hmmm has pacemaker and crystal both up there a good bit

[shrewd night]

We love transmog dinars

[stuck knoll]

Dawnbreaker beams

[shrewd night]

Yeah ok this guy is our ronkboi

Remembers internal memes and says two words when you ask for one

[humble verge]

never thought id actually ever be here

[lament bolt]

I would be if I stopped buying so many mounts

[flat pier]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-i-love-gold-goldmember-gif-19735343

[weary stump]

The rogues of the world union accepts donations, we are run by 3 very kind goblins and a murloc

[humble verge]

when did we have a union?

and why am i not leading it?

[indigo sphinx]

Accurate

[weary stump]

Since like 11 minutes ago, and you could perhaps do so

We petition blizzard for a flying capybara mount, this is very important for the rogues

[humble verge]

ofcourse

[dapper parcel]

Really appreciate your constructive feedback Mo. Thank you!

[candid token]

Quick question, do we sim anything specific on Salhadaar or just patchwerk it?

[indigo totem]

Which dressing sims highest on salad bar? I like balsamic with bacon bits for extra dps but some folks swear by french

[fallow canopy]

I'm a healthy caesar or lemon vinaigrette kinda fellow

[hot pasture]

shadowstep to dks in dimensius yeh or nah

[scarlet orbit]

yeh just be carefull if they are still alive so that you dont get cought slacking

[fallow canopy]

choose the smartest melee player on your side and hand them your life

[hot pasture]

XD

[fallow canopy]

I chose a warrior since my dk wasn't really helping me dodge the rings on p3

[earnest remnant]

you can step anyone on your side doesent matter who

[sharp viper]

not at dimensius yet but probably gonna macro someone for shs

[desert vault]

what are they doing with 8 hours maintenance today? is beta for midnight going live or something?

[wanton remnant]

I currently have myth netherprism and antenna. Only thing i can dinar is maybe a myth ritual forge or myth lily are those 2 worth? Would it be better to have ritual forge over antenna or lily?

[desert vault]

Boots if you don't have those

[wanton remnant]

I dont have a myth soul hunters kill. I have hero track boots

[desert vault]

Mythic boots are pretty good cause 40% to 50%

[wanton remnant]

My raid leader didnt wanna bring a rogue for myth soul hunters so i didnt get to go

[desert vault]

You are lucky, fight is awful

[wanton remnant]

I would do it for the boots

[haughty flicker]

just do what i did

[wanton remnant]

Maybe sigil for outlaw offspec

[haughty flicker]

miss 3 weeks of prog then show up and kill it in 7 pulls

[wanton remnant]

Yeah we are on myth nexus king now with no plans on reclearing

[desert vault]

I mean I would spend dinar on boots probably, you have best two trinkets until last two bosses ... antenna isn't great on last two, but still good

[wanton remnant]

So everyone else got myth boots and im at a disadvantage slightly now lol

[haughty flicker]

yeah thats cursed

gotta pray for vault

wait no vault bc reclear

yeah get fucked

[wanton remnant]

Lol what vault? We are locked to nexus king so im fked

[haughty flicker]

yeah

make them reclear the week we get the last rep buff

and prayge

[waxen oyster]

locking on nexus king is diabolical

lmao

[wanton remnant]

So now i can go either myth lily or ritual forge

[waxen oyster]

i cant see a reason to take myth lily

[haughty flicker]

well if you're playing fatebound you go lily no question

[waxen oyster]

if you have prism

[haughty flicker]

wait yeah

just buy prism

[wanton remnant]

I have a prism and im playing fatebound

[waxen oyster]

?

[wanton remnant]

I have a myth prism

[waxen oyster]

so whats the question

play antenna prism

[haughty flicker]

you dont double on use as assa

so prism antenna

you can but whispyr will find you and kill you

[coral ibex]

you can just run heroic for the boots

[wanton remnant]

Yeah so now im just holding dinaars lol

[coral ibex]

the difference is tiny

[waxen oyster]

im holding dinars because i have nothing to buy

[haughty flicker]

the difference was pretty big for me

[wanton remnant]

I have the boots on hero track

[haughty flicker]

but nothing you can do if not reclearing

[wanton remnant]

Im at 728 ilvl now

[haughty flicker]

this week i can finally buy myth prism

so im sure this is the week its finally in my vault

[wanton remnant]

Wonder if i can buy the chest piece from hoa on myth track

[haughty flicker]

cant buy chest

just weapons trinkets and dh boots

[wanton remnant]

Sigh pray for vault it is

[desert vault]

I am buying pacemaker i guess, simmed highest for me with 40% miss rate since we are stuck on last two bosses as well

[wanton remnant]

Im using 2 crafted rings

[haughty flicker]

my gear is insanely cursed

but like i said i missed a few weeks so i cant complain all that much

[waxen oyster]

i actually dont know why im not allowed to sit soulhunters

[haughty flicker]

hero track chest and like 5 crafted items though

[waxen oyster]

you dont need atro chat

[wanton remnant]

Yeah theyve been going more rdps

[waxen oyster]

dooomed

meanwhile i've been done with gear since the first thursday of uncap

[haughty flicker]

on assa i have hero neck too but ive been playing sub

[waxen oyster]

😭

[wanton remnant]

And they said theres not really a reason to bring a rogue to raid even though they wanted me to play rogue this season

[desert vault]

Our entire guild has yet to see a single mythic antenna drop in raid, think we were killing it since week 2 and nothing been crazy

[waxen oyster]

yeah im playing sub on dimmy since our add damage isnt amazing so i get to look good on details

[haughty flicker]

both our frost dks are on the other platform on nk

so i just pad

[wanton remnant]

I cant stand sub

[haughty flicker]

[waxen oyster]

its a chill time

i get to take my hands off the keyboard

for 30s

actually i lied its there to hit feint and move

[wanton remnant]

Maybe i should just force myself to learn it and play it

[haughty flicker]

i forced myself to learn it on rik

[wanton remnant]

Weve gotten nexus king to 40% so far

[haughty flicker]

because our barrel damage was genuinely criminal

[waxen oyster]

assa prob better on nk now

[haughty flicker]

and sub is pretty fun

[waxen oyster]

unless your platform dam is bad bad

[haughty flicker]

glad i did learn it

[wanton remnant]

Im usually playing enhance shaman but enhance is dead in raids

And im liking rogue. Atleast assasin and outlaw

[humble verge]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[main bobcat]

Goodnight

[spice spire]

Gn king

[coral ibex]

reclear vaults go hard

i cba doing any more keys this season i think

[inner glade]

Do you use the Unyielding Netherprism Trinket on CD or save it for the 2min? Because the On Use only has a 20 CD, so I was curious.

[balmy condor]

you never want to rip an agi buff without cds

[inner glade]

I see. Appresh!

[analog field]

Whispyr, in keys if let's say I have a pack with not a very big prio mob can I send prism without DM for bleeds and spatter or is it a total waste?

Let's say Ara Kara after first boss there are some pulls without the big ones

[balmy condor]

I guess you could

[real pike]

Or

Hear me out here

[balmy condor]

but you have to remember that if you're just sending it into some nonsense

[real pike]

Run Araz in keys

[balmy condor]

you're not going to ever have good stacks

[real pike]

And bind to DM

[balmy condor]

araz is notably worse

[real pike]

For keys?!!!??!!?!???!!??!?!

[balmy condor]

yea

[real pike]

Buh buh it lines up so nicely

[analog field]

There is a pull after first guard where I have some stacks but no DM and I wanna send stacks and send DM on next big guard and have DM with stacks on boss. I just don't know if it is griefing

[balmy condor]

prism lines up nicely too

[real pike]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-panda-panda-mad-commercial-gif-5416416

[balmy condor]

literally if you just macro prism into dm the same way you do araz

you just get more agi

direct one to one upgrade

[real pike]

Yeah but what you're missing is that I had to take mythic araz from vault earlier in the season and I can't cope with it being useless

So can you just tell me it's better in niche circumstances or something

[balmy condor]

depends on the timing, but it's not technically griefing, you're just spreading out the effect of your trinket right

like just as a hypothetical, lets say your trinket button gives you 10% extra damage for every stack, 10 stacks over the course of 2 minutes. You can press it once every two minutes, and get your 100%, or you can press it 5 times in that same 2 min, and you get 5 instances of 20%

you're still getting the same amount of total agi

[analog field]

I don't know how good it is with buffing bleeds. I mean I am not sure how agi interacts with dots etc. I understand it buffs muti

[balmy condor]

so your decision making should be "is there something that requires a damage buff in the next 3 min", and work backwards from there

agi is just a flat damage increase

it's main stat

[analog field]

For every thing right?

[balmy condor]

yes

[analog field]

okok

clear thanks

[haughty flicker]

just make sure to die a lot so prism never stacks

then araz is better

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[balmy condor]

araz is better on the giga first pull that every pug tank feels the need to do with lust

[real pike]

Holy shit I'm doing that already

[balmy condor]

and then that pull goes successfully and your tank doesn't call your groups slurs and leaves

that seems like a win

[real pike]

Didn't even need telling

Pure instinct

Are you telling me you don't enjoy the giga first pull

Especially in eco

[balmy condor]

the lion does not concern himself with the minigame

[analog field]

in eco where you can't hit coz of shit on the ground

ok gambit is worse but still eco is shit

[real pike]

Whispyrahimovic

Gambit is fucking horrendous

I'm convinced the game smart targets the lowest health mobs for bleed spreads

[analog field]

vanish after all small shits die

[balmy condor]

I'm resisting the urge to "um acktuallie"

it's taking a lot out of me

[real pike]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/explodemind-star-trek-mind-blown-gif-5464625

I DONT NEED IT

I CAN HOLD IT

[real pike]

Not even sure which bit was about to get ackshuallied

It all looked pretty logical to me

[left pine]

how should I use Prism on last 2 bosses? once every other time with deathmark?

[real pike]

Depends on your timings, but always with Deathmark, ideally with Vanish, but always with the damage amps

[left pine]

why sometimes my KB desync after first opener from Deathmark?

[balmy condor]

tier set bug

[tawdry halo]

known bug with the fatebound tierset

[left pine]

and no work around to "fix" like unequip?

[balmy condor]

you just hold for your cold blood

[fallow canopy]

big xmog vault

[humble verge]

@thorn thorn it finally happened

im on my main

[thorn thorn]

[vestal geyser]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[humble verge]

im 100% this was you bro

[thorn thorn]

It probably was

I decline rogues

[vestal geyser]

anyone have a vanish macro for prism

[thorn thorn]

Thats a lie

But I would 100% decline someone I know just for the lols

[coral ibex]

/use 13
/cast Vanish

[vestal geyser]

ty

[static glacier]

@humble verge are you online rn

[humble verge]

no im not

[static glacier]

or am I just harassing a random

[humble verge]

ure not talking to me

[static glacier]

JESUS

[humble verge]

you know

i speak with too many here

idk

[static glacier]

ain't you sergeito?

or am I schizzomaxxing again

[humble verge]

no

totally not

[haughty flicker]

[static glacier]

you ain't beating the allegations

[humble verge]

bros not reading ingame

[static glacier]

jesus man

[oak tangle]

i need help, cause i've never crafted them

what ilvl are base spark crafts, and with hero enchanted?

[haughty flicker]

uh

should be 704

with just a runed crest

like 707 or some shit if you use a runed turbo boost item on top of that

[oak tangle]

i dont think you can turbo boost them can you?

omg you can

[haughty flicker]

there are runed and gilded things you buy

[oak tangle]

🤮

[haughty flicker]

yeah

30 of whichever crest

[oak tangle]

only 15 for runed

[haughty flicker]

oh huge

[oak tangle]

XD

[humble verge]

well

pretty sure

only spark is like

691

[oak tangle]

ok enchanting vendor ftw

runed is 691-704, gilded 707-720

so spark will be 687 by that?

[humble verge]

12 became a 14 by accident, since heal forgot to downgrade his fucken key

[oak tangle]

those are the best

[humble verge]

9 deaths

[oak tangle]

we did that in a floodgate

[humble verge]

i had 3

2nd pack

[oak tangle]

spent the whole key going, "ok this is where we wipe"

zero deaths timed it

[humble verge]

ye but like

when ure overgeared

doesnt matter to me

i just want the db crit ring

@static glacier sorry for being confused

i thought u were someone recruiting me

feels like anyone who talks to me anywhere is doing htat

last thing you see before maintenance

[oak tangle]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[knotty vapor]

what does full bis gear sim at? I suck at using topgear

[balmy condor]

6.12 or something

[humble verge]

well its a bit less, i recoded the items to 730/727 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jvV3gssoPeAJ1rChVmJJZJ

from Fuu's sim

[oak tangle]

recoded?

[balmy condor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/s8HB1yqeyF4dmeazdHdj3b

[humble verge]

i used my magic hands and changed this

[humble verge]

jaha

[oak tangle]

that wont work

[humble verge]

ohok

[oak tangle]

cause the pieces could change bis with the new ilvl

[humble verge]

sorry for being banana

[balmy condor]

yeah but he doesn't know that

he just has magic hands

[humble verge]

oijADoijawdioawdjoidoiwajiadwad

[balmy condor]

[humble verge]

i am poopy hands

wait

we are legs offpiece now?

[oak tangle]

mans just learning why bis lists have always been a bait

[humble verge]

nvm

no

just

[fallow canopy]

I used forge instead of my 18 stacks prism on the dimmy damage amp

[humble verge]

i had to check wowhead quickly

but i guess were not even gonna use offpiece but

[humble verge]

alr

what do the lads think about wolfcut

thinking about it

[fallow canopy]

some people can definitely rock it

[humble verge]

[steep gust]

for myth dimmy, do i just shadowstep the knock back in p1?

[desert vault]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[fallow canopy]

ye

you can focus someone else on your side and do a shadowstep focus macro

[keen spruce]

focus your resident DK

[oak tangle]

can step anyone on your side tbh, your movement gets 👮

[old terrace]

uh, anybody know how I'm supposed to get there in lemix?

its part of the rogue campaign

[oak tangle]

is there a portal page button thing in your quests?

[old terrace]

no 🙁

and Lilian Voss didn't open a portal when I accepted the quest either

[oak tangle]

is there a portal to the exodar in the centre of dalaran? idr

[old terrace]

no, in Lemix there is only one to Dal Crater and one to Karazhan

[oak tangle]

rip, im outta ideas, hopefully someone else knows

[old terrace]

I hope so, otherwise this will make 2 broken quests for rogues 😭

[humble verge]

yes

if u have a dk

use the @player macro

[haughty flicker]

it doesnt have to be a dk

it always cancels your momentum even if the person you step to is moving

dk is just safe bc they arent moving at all

[latent kernel]

would it ever be worth it to use a trinket like signet or forge over netherprism in dungeons like floodgate so you can get the benefit for the first pull

[balmy condor]

probably not

[hallow glade]

my tier set decided not to proc on dimmy

really cool

[haughty flicker]

yeah thats always fun

fortunately happens way less often than it proccing twice

[hallow glade]

its a first for me

[haughty flicker]

think ive only had it twice

[steep gust]

For myth dimmy, do I target the adds on pull?

[balmy condor]

no

you never target adds

[coral ibex]

most i do is a rupture and stand on them for spatter

but i target dim the whole time

[steep gust]

Ok thanks. My side slow to kill them so was curious. Thanks

[coral ibex]

whats ur side comp

[balmy condor]

that's a skill issue from other specs on your side or bad balancing from your raid lead

[coral ibex]

yea they have such little health and your raid should be 729

[balmy condor]

with just the sheer amount of raid ilvl and rep damage %

you're more likely to have to have people fully afk in p1

[balmy condor]

we had 2 dps full afk the entire phase to stop dps

[coral ibex]

unethical ranged prob

[balmy condor]

yeh

[steep gust]

Ok appreciate the feedback

[balmy condor]

this was our living mass damage

frost + ele + destro + ww

is insane add damage on your side

they're just not doing their job

[steep gust]

Does that also apply to the 2nd set of adds as well?

They have me hitting front add then grabbing orb

[balmy condor]

that's the full p1 adds

yeh I pick up an orb too

but you just ignore hitting them

caustic does a lil

[steep gust]

Got it

[balmy condor]

swapping to them would just be horrid

[steep gust]

Yea feels horrid

[balmy condor]

if the call is swap, you're swappin to sub, not the adds

[steep gust]

LOL

[balmy condor]

but sub does kinda poop boss damage

that's the tradeoff

you pad out of your mind on the adds

and then afk on the boss

[steep gust]

Rather swap to bench tbh

[balmy condor]

assa afks on the adds

and skullfucks the boss

[past bobcat]

assa you gotta hold 2nd Dm in p1

we legit pushing boss at 2:00

[balmy condor]

yeh it's pretty cringe

our guild opted to hold dps

but that just meant me and a hunter

were full afk

[past bobcat]

it isnt HORRIBLE it lets you full send the first platform

and then able to send the damage amp p3

[balmy condor]

I legit hit my dm on pull, dm on 1:30, and then ran around in circles the rest of the time

yeh I was also assigned cds on platform 2 to make sure we pushed at the correct time

so I was 2 dm in p1, dm on both platforms, and then yolo send p3

[hollow talon]

got a great parse on fract today but guild has unlisted logs so no one will ever know

except you guys

[golden loom]

Private logs

[knotty vapor]

upload your own silly

takes like 10 seconds

man

im just not gonna use antenna

only 0.8% if I play perfectly

and i dont play perfectly

pacemaker 4 lyfe

[hollow talon]

i always forget to start logging

its ok at least you guys know i blasted fractilus today

[knotty vapor]

if your dbm/bigwigs has the setting enabled it'll log your shit to a text file

and you can upload that any time

doesnt have to be live logs

[hollow talon]

Interesting might check that out

[tawny geyser]

Servers still down?

[jade abyss]

I got finaly my first prism better say when servers go online

[white tide]

are servers still off?

did legion remix brick server again? 😄

[golden loom]

Its maintenance

https://eu.support.blizzard.com/en/article/000358479?flowTrackingId

[lavish wing]

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-spit-vomit-gross-laugh-gif-12129945

11AM??? ffs

[wheat hill]

netherprism over forge in myth raids?

[balmy condor]

100%

forge doesn't even line up with your cds

[marble wadi]

how about BOUF OF THEM

[balmy condor]

that's also awful

[wheat hill]

what about myth forge over heroic antenna?

[balmy condor]

hell no

[wheat hill]

and use prism every deathmark right?

sorry for the sped questions can't remeber how to sin after playing sub

[marble wadi]

you can macro it or use it on max stacks

[balmy condor]

macro to vanish

every 3 min

[wheat hill]

rodgy

[static glacier]

🥲 idk what other Mo's youve seen in ravenholdt, ngl I thought it was an elaborate ragebait

bro mentioned a bunch of regulars from sin as if I've not got more messages than say nooj

[sharp viper]

antenna is not thaaaaat great on saladbar, sometimes the orbs won't reach you due to baiting/dodging/movement shabang

[balmy condor]

and it's still the best

[sharp viper]

I can see a point being made for prism + forge if damage on intermission would be low (it shouldn't be though with the current level of gear + 12% dmg buff)

[analog field]

There is no way the platform needs a trinket usage otherwise you wipe

[sharp viper]

that's why I phrased it as a very niche scenario

[marble wadi]

LET ME IN

ITS DONE LET ME IN

[sharp viper]

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/8-hour-mentenance-really/594709/47 it ain't done yet

[marble wadi]

cant have shit in wow

can have a good vault cant have a good roll

only lag and amd driver faliures

[sharp viper]

i played hearthstone and now some megabonk while waiting

I'd play alpha if I had access

[midnight atlas]

they must be upgrading the ram sticks in the servers and got like 200 servers left to go

[thorny dagger]

servs are up

[midnight atlas]

GOGOGO whoever opens vault first is stoopid

[marble wadi]

worth the wait

[jaunty notch]

socket for me

at least I can socket item I don't use and wait another week for my myth hand

[real pike]

I think pacemaker beats out prism on the big D tho

[shell kraken]

Quest about prism - why do we use it as 3min instead of 1,5 min CD with DM?
Does the stacks get better over time?
Why is it better to consume 20 stacks one time on 3 min vs 2x10 stacks every 1,5 min?

[safe patrol]

Using soleah mythic and prism mythic rn. plan was to buy antenna today but wanna try double on use sub in m+ killing dimensius tonight most likely and soleah pretty okey there so idk

[golden loom]

It stacks to 18, but on fatebound you line it up with vanish, which ends up being a 3 min cadance

[brave stump]

yo @balmy condor, you're

[humble verge]

hmmm my shitty alts choice

best choice feels like chest+cata

[static glacier]

you're not bis'd out yet whaaaa?

[humble verge]

no the 4th alt isent

i started it last week

[static glacier]

jesus

am I the only one who hates the idea of a second rogue?

one is enough, I enjoy my alts more than my main even

[humble verge]

wdym

[golden loom]

That could be Warrior/DH/DK

[golden loom]

Illidan

Should be able to max out dk/dh this week (- soul hunter boots unless my 1 vault slot is lucky)

[humble verge]

not even maxed out parsehunter and samiramain

smh

[golden loom]

Samiramain is jailed to black temple runs

[humble verge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dkCAZDnNmYMSuWMRUiMATA HOLY AIRBALL, WE ARE HITTING 6M TODAY

[golden loom]

6m like 4 weeks late gz

[humble verge]

stfu lil bro

i aint spending 50k for gem changs

: (

[static glacier]

well this settles it, im done with this char now

antenna vault > get boots from dinar

[humble verge]

yeah sorry for not getting good gear early dawg

[golden loom]

My rogue hasnt been in mainraid for a month

[humble verge]

mainraid whats that

i only boost

[golden loom]

Well guildraid

Its out and about in the wild west of pugs

[analog field]

but dont you want to boost with 6 different rogues?

[static glacier]

nah, best boost class is dk

you dont have mechanics

and more dmg than rogue

[humble verge]

nah but dk requires actually to do good with mark and breath

and thats effort

[static glacier]

you havent tried unholy xd

[humble verge]

who plays unholy in boost

[analog field]

i mean who cares?

i played ret pala for a boost and i parsed 30

[static glacier]

its v close in dmg to frost, beating it in pure st an dlosing in cleave

[analog field]

with prot pala gear

[static glacier]

overall dam

boss dam

ok sin is dimmy skew i swear

its bosses that you dont boost (assuming myth)

[golden loom]

Frost DK my goat, unholy cringe!!

[static glacier]

unless you're a gamer

either way in my experience they're pretty interchangable

and I pref unholy cus ranged spec xd

and bigger burst

goes hard for boosting

turn brain offf

frost is pretty easy too imo but if breath is annoying jsut go uh

[golden loom]

Frost is beyond easy

[humble verge]

my reaction

[golden loom]

Pressing glowing buttons feels good tho

[static glacier]

fdk is litterally 2x km > rime > 1x km > 🙂

thats the whole spec

[static glacier]

I just realised I can just use lily for the rest of farm

and macro everything zzz

[tawny geyser]

Thing is, I also hear stuff like this for Assa “click Envenom, you’re done”
Meanwhile, theres so much more to min max the spec.
So I’d also say theres more to Frost than just 2 buttons, or maybe not. Cant say for sure, never played it.

[static glacier]

thats the core priority for rune spenders

besides that you weave in runic power spenders, you press cds on cd (pillar and reapers mark are macro'd together)

besides that you press empowered runic weapon for an extra stack of killing machine when you'd oblit with 0 or 1 km / if you want resources

its genuinely easy

and yes sin is easy too

[golden loom]

@static glacier THE DK IS BLESSED

[static glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/glen-powell-cowboy-hat-twisters-glen-powell-cowboy-hat-twisters-hat-tip-gif-5118912828705353208

[west crown]

Hardest thing about sin is getting your tank to position correctly

[marble wadi]

question if i dont have myth prism can i macro myth forge to vanish over heroic prism

[scarlet orbit]

We dont really play 2x on use on assa.

[marble wadi]

i meant forge+antena

over hc prism+antena

[golden loom]

well u wouldnt run forge on fatebound

u would run hc prism / lily

[marble wadi]

ye i know but some ppl macro prism into vanish so i just tought why not use myth forge for the opener and on second vanish

[golden loom]

yea cause prism doesnt lose value by sitting on it

meanwhile forge is a 2min cd trinket

[onyx crane]

I love antenna/lily combo

am I crazy

lily has great sync with fatebound and does well in M+ too

[analog field]

In m it is pretty bad as it has 3/4 of its value

[ancient ingot]

guys we playing bleeds on soulhunters?

[west crown]

Pretty much bleed build except for atrophic and cheat death

[ancient ingot]

araz/soulbinder also?

[main bridge]

pro tip you can look at logs here and see what the top logs are playing on any fight https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/rogue-assassination/plexus-sentinel

[desert vault]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[onyx crane]

I don't get it

what loses it's value?

[royal lantern]

yeha idk what the guy means there

[fallow canopy]

fb in m+

[fallow canopy]

I think what he meant is that lily is 90s and on m+ you play DS so dm is 2 min, but idk

[analog field]

You have a trinket with 1:30 cd on a 2 min DM

[royal lantern]

i mean

prism stacks above 90sec

[onyx crane]

that's fair

[royal lantern]

lol

[analog field]

we are talking about lilly

[royal lantern]

oh

ye

lilly not great in m+

[onyx crane]

but it always sims higher in M+ for me

than prism

[royal lantern]

then use it 🤷‍♂️

[analog field]

This sounds very weird but if the SIM says so and it is correct then yeah use that

[golden loom]

can u link da sim

[analog field]

For me Netherprism champion was a bit better than myth lilly

[onyx crane]

maybe my sim was wrong

[weary stump]

Does the netherprism have ghasts in it to increase DPS

[onyx crane]

like I said before I am pretty bad at the game overall

and I have the lousy logs to prove it

[fallow canopy]

it does sound kinda sus that the sim prefers it in dungeon slice

[onyx crane]

well I spend my first dinar on a dagger cuz I will never kill saladbar on mythic

so I can still get the mythic prism from the vendor

[analog field]

Loom has also a dagger though

But still whatever SIM says

[weary stump]

And m+ mythic vault dagger also exists

[onyx crane]

never had a dagger in my vault on rogue

[weary stump]

Damn

[onyx crane]

but if you use prism in raid

[analog field]

I had last week

[onyx crane]

you just pop it with eh

[analog field]

And I have been clearing mythic raid first bosses from week 2 and never seen loom dagger

[onyx crane]

mark was it?

( bad remembering names)

[west crown]

No. Any semi decent group is blowing up adds at this point. Fatebound on every other boss

[weary stump]

I got looms dagger on our first kill of it, we have yet to see the dagger again

[gentle flower]

why is assasination so bad now

QQ

[weary stump]

It isnt

[onyx crane]

it is but it isn't

[west crown]

Kinda is lower on the totem poll. We are mid

[scarlet orbit]

if you use prism in raid you use prism every 3 min with cds and vanish

[onyx crane]

every 3?

[weary stump]

Don't we end basically every tier as decidedly mid though

[analog field]

We are top boss dmg in the last 2 fights so I would say we are really good

[scarlet orbit]

Yes you skip 1 cd set with no trinket. There are some fights where its a bit different but in pure singletarget patchwork that how its is

[onyx crane]

so you open without prism

[scarlet orbit]

you can just macro it to vanish and dont think about it. But then you want to vanish before flipping deathmarks coins

[onyx crane]

I am really no good with this type of gameplay lol

[west crown]

Ain’t nobody looking at boss damage is the problem. Our perception is low which makes us mid

[onyx crane]

thing is that rogues only do dmg

and since blizz was so adement on fighting stealth skips

and refuses to give us something meaningful

I mean give rogues a smoke bomb that acts as a darkness or something

[west crown]

Rogue is truly in need of a utility rework. Fuck the stealth mechanic. Groups wouldn’t care about restealth if I had utility

[onyx crane]

i think stealth needs to be a stance that auto applies once combat ends or something atleast for rogues

[scarlet orbit]

For start i would like that this stupid certain enemy typs are immune to x cc to be gone. Its so annoying to not be able to aoe cc like the spinning robots in floodgate for no good reason

[onyx crane]

also stop making dungeon affixes that rogues cannot effectivly deal with

I am not using cloak to dispell an affix ffs

[oak tangle]

remove all cc from all classes, and add it to a new talent line, where we can pick our own utility

[west crown]

Hell no. That’s such a bad idea blizzard should hire you

[onyx crane]

I think my smokebomb idea is a good one

also not related to rogue, but why is stonegrasp totem of shaman not using those stone hands they have since WoD?

[scarlet orbit]

Smokebomb WAS darkness. Dhs just kinda stole that back then

[onyx crane]

DHs always stealing ppls ability

[weary stump]

What blizzard should do is give outlaw a talent that turns grappling hook into a grip

[onyx crane]

nah

rogues are not strong enough, sound like a warrior thing

rogues just need an allround utility that fits with the class and makes them useful

[weary stump]

Maybe also give assassination a buff that lets everyone in the raid benefit from execute phase more

[oak tangle]

why is it bad though

or we just gonna sling insults for no reason

cause like, i play my class for it's theme and how it does damage, not for the shape of it's stuns

[royal lantern]

what blizzard should do is uninstall the game from your PC when you spec into Outlaw for more then 5min

[weary stump]

You're so right

They should just have someone come to your home and surgically give you carpal tunnel

[halcyon flame]

what about us who fight in the first 6?

[waxen oyster]

first 6 you can do with 10 survival hunters

[coral ibex]

3 on plexus
2 on loom
mid on soulbinder
mid on araz
mid on soul hunters
3 on fract
5 on NK
1 on dim

this is basically ideal imo

good enough to top meters in your guild if you are good, mid enough to not get nerfed or complained about

[pliant remnant]

erm, assa not #1 on all fights?

What the helly Blizzard

[weary stump]

Forgeweaving their demise

[halcyon flame]

@coral ibex Whats your St atm ? ,mine is around 5.9m ,can it be more ? I have like everything except soulhunters mithic boots

[coral ibex]

i sim 6.1m 5m patchwerk

[halcyon flame]

damn

[coral ibex]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mhZCSbyHz3wvaw9sgjQ9Mf

[halcyon flame]

what are your stats?

[coral ibex]

idk a lot of crit and mastery

less of vers and haste

[halcyon flame]

gotta recraft something ,cuz I went sub for a while and now I go back full to assa ,so ascension is better right ?

[coral ibex]

yea, pretty marginally tho

[halcyon flame]

I have the gem thingy embellish

We have almost same thing ,only boots is the diff

and embellish

[coral ibex]

ur damage is more dependent on good flips than stat opti tbh, fatebound has like 7% swing up or down

[halcyon flame]

Indeed

[coral ibex]

r1 loomithar in 11.2 just flipped tails for 3 minutes straight

can't compete with that lol

[weary stump]

Just flip your coins and vibe twin

We flip tails, we happy, we flip heads, we slightly less happy

[coral ibex]

happier now that it actually adds the correct % damage

and not a flat 10

[weary stump]

True

But we are bound by fate to the coins we flip

[halcyon flame]

For now I increase my crit and haste , crit from 29% to 43% and haste from 3% to 13% and feels a lot smoother ,I can spam more and both daggers crit more often ,cant wait to try at tomorrow raid

[coral ibex]

shoutout to getting a 4% buff by insterting a % where its supposed to go

[waxen oyster]

if you dont have boots its a big deal

[coral ibex]

i mean

[weary stump]

The tragedy of seeing a bootless individual

[coral ibex]

less than 1% from hero to myth for me

i got more out of a regem

than myth boots

[waxen oyster]

Yeah i pmuch sim the same

[weary stump]

True, but there are still people without the heroic ones even

Which is tragic

[waxen oyster]

like idk

if bro isnt maghar either

prob bigger loss

than flipping secondaries a bit

[halcyon flame]

If changing races wouldnt be so expensive...

[fallow canopy]

rather look pretty

[muted ridge]

what weap buffs we using? Oil + whetstone or 2x mana oil

dunno how to sim it

[west crown]

Let’s take away class fantasy and throw it in a spec tree. Now classes are purely taken for how they are tuned dps-wise because everyone contributes the same cc. What a brain dead take

[nimble tartan]

guys i have no upgrades left in raid or mythic +

[coral ibex]

time to log out

[nimble tartan]

i need to climb the logs now

[stark matrix]

And that’s different to how it is normally how?

[coral ibex]

i cba to do keys for my last upgrade

i could gain 10k dps by getting the crit/haste tazavesh neck

[stark matrix]

Like you’re not seeing poor dps performing classes in m+ meta lmao

[west crown]

Melee comp surely is a thing not based on the unique buff that helps every party member!

[stark matrix]

You mean the comp that takes the best performing melee classes?

[coral ibex]

emplussers

sheesh

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/drool-patrick-star-drool-bubble-bubble-duhhh-gif-27447904

[onyx crane]

I am confused on how to use prism properly

[stark matrix]

“Utility” is always a secondary consideration

[spice surge]

Macro it to vanish

[stark matrix]

The only reason a “melee comp” exists this season is because the general tuning allows for it

[onyx crane]

so you use it late in the fight once and that's it?

[severe meadow]

You let it stack up, rip it with CDs

[spice surge]

If the fight is short yes

[severe meadow]

If the fight is ending, you can rip excess stacks just because

But generally you just macro it to vanish and don’t think about it

[balmy condor]

Deathless run in November let’s fucking go

[royal lantern]

if you play fatebond, macro witb vanish

if you play deathstalker, macor with DM

hats it

[coral ibex]

i'd rather crush my dick in a vice

[nimble tartan]

omg macro prism to vanish

im so used to pressin it i shall leave it be

[fallow canopy]

think of the 0.01% upgrade

[coral ibex]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gDDbBiD3bP9yrD8bHGrsQf
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9kHhKftrafbUjb9bRPaS41

[fallow canopy]

humongous gains

[weary stump]

Huge power up tbh

[raven vapor]

is this just sim margin of error? (sushi/beledars)

[coral ibex]

blue is margin of error

all of these sim within margin of error of each other tho

so

[raven vapor]

nice cheers

[coral ibex]

there's really no difference in using any of them

[nimble tartan]

how u sim100k more than me but i have no uppies

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/stronger-smarter-better-im-stronger-im-stronger-im-better-im-stronger-im-smarter-im-better-gif-17830288595670792941

idk

[drowsy mauve]

hello fellow yellow classers, did any1 ever have it happen, that you get your second death mark back at 45 sec? it just happened to me on myth dimensius

[analog field]

45 no, but 1 min possible

[balmy condor]

Tier set bug yep

45s is indeed impossible though

[analog field]

triple ?

really?

[drowsy mauve]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nbxmLd8NajWM1J7C?fight=14&type=damage-done&source=4&targetbuffs=360194

maybe i read it wrong

but looks to me

[analog field]

if whispyr says so

never seen it

[fallow canopy]

You'd need a 3rd type of coin to also reach 7 and proc a third reduction no?

[iron carbon]

Seems a yes

wtf

[fallow canopy]

I'm too dumb to figure that one out but damn that's crazy

[sharp viper]

finally killed saladbar, any sim recommendations for dimensius

[fallow canopy]

Depending on timers befriend your local holy paladin for some autumnal goodness

[sharp viper]

we dont have one

[fallow canopy]

although these days I'm not sure it even matters much since some groups just push at w/e timers

[balmy condor]

yeh idk how this is possible

that breaks all understanding of how the bug functions

this log is a fucking mess though holy

my eyes

but yeh idk how to get it that low

just looking through buff events and stuff it doesn't even seem like anything happened

it just.... did it

[golden loom]

I mean dimmy has travel time (big)

so MAYBE

[balmy condor]

no

[fallow canopy]

some insane spaguetti was involved there

[balmy condor]

there is no way to get 3 lucky coins

[golden loom]

[balmy condor]

they're 3 seconds apart regardless

[prisma carbon]

link 3 lucky coin build pls

[fallow canopy]

Unlock the mythical and elusive 3rd coin type, the chocolate coin

[haughty flicker]

huh

i genuinely dont get why i just got automodded

[drowsy mauve]

well im happy i could share this special moment with you

back to the shadows i go

[haughty flicker]

apparently ravenholdt is really against counterfeiting coinage

[fallow canopy]

Money crimes discussions only on the outlaw channel

[hollow river]

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[hollow river]

Well

Now we know

[eternal sandal]

just got my prism, do we always just send it on kb?

[gentle flower]

https://i.imgur.com/kofBc4o.jpeg 12 dawn first time assassination

am i doing it right?

[haughty flicker]

oh it might be automodded because of scammers

now that i think about it

very funny

[haughty flicker]

as fatebound macro it to vanish

and vanish before you use dm/kb so prism is buffing the coins

[eternal sandal]

hm, ok

[hollow river]

True

[jaunty notch]

I'm curious of what are the best stat possible on assa rogue (raid only)

my current gear : 24k crit / 20k mastery / 7300 haste / 3500 versa

I guess I can work on some better gems

[prisma carbon]

You sim yourself and whatever the robot tells you to do is best

[gentle flower]

i dont have the trinkets but

[jaunty notch]

classic answer

not looking to sim 567356 variations of my gems

[gentle flower]

im currently 34% crit 21% haste 26% mastery lol 30% vers

[analog field]

probably the gain will be something like 0.2

[jaunty notch]

just want someone who know what he is talking about to guide somehow and share what stat he have

[tacit hedge]

Hey guys im wondering how exactly kingsbane works. I read the talent and you have to build it up over 14s up to 1000%.

My question does it affect envemon damage or is it a dot that increases damage overtime?
What abilities affect the increase the damage of kingsbane?

[gentle flower]

im outlaw main but mut rogues are kinda low key fun

[analog field]

there is no such thing especially for assa rogue

crit is good

mast is good

vers is good

haste is the worst for raid but you still will want some

[old halo]

the damage over time from kingsbane increases over 14s

[prisma carbon]

not sure what kind of answer you want then
theres no magic breakpoints in stats

[analog field]

mine are similar, but i have more vers less haste

[tacit hedge]

From my understanding haste is good for bleed build

[jaunty notch]

didn't you just said to sim and do what robot say ? if so there is a magic breakpoint

[analog field]

yeah for m+ all stats are good but crit loses value for sure

[jovial solar]

!vanish

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[tacit hedge]

So it doesnt affect envenom?

[old halo]

nope

[prisma carbon]

something could sim higher for me because i have different gear from you
its not just about getting to 43.65% crit

[tacit hedge]

Does all damage source increase its damage also? Like mutilate and envenom?

[jaunty notch]

that's exactly why I was looking for what stat people have bro

[eternal sandal]

asking for a friend, how exactly is that suppossed to work when you also have Lily?

[old halo]

yup and paired with shiv for an additional 30% damage

[jaunty notch]

if most people play with 40% crit and 60% mastery, you basicly don't want 10% mastery and 10% crit

[analog field]

envenom affects KB so you have to cast envenom before

[analog field]

it is a bit random

as people get the gear they get

[jaunty notch]

?

[analog field]

if you dont farm mythic raid every week you get the gear the game gives you

some gems can change

but stats are not on demand

[jaunty notch]

16 slot, at least 4 are shared for set, 2 more for double bis trincket, one for for cape, another one for weapon

half of your gear should not vary from people to people, at least end tier player

didn't count boot also

[analog field]

yes that's exactly my point

what do stats matter

if 12 of my items are fixed

[tacit hedge]

Does the damage for envenom only increase within that KB window? Lets say Im over the timer of KB by 0.5 seconds, then my envenom is no longer empowered?

[analog field]

you want envenom to empower KB

[humble verge]

ive found that sub opener burst with forge is pretty fun :)

[analog field]

and give KB stacks

[jaunty notch]

that's also my point, I didn't asked you guys to backseat my whole gear, I'm looking to know what people are playing in term of stat in raid, so I can compare what I do

[analog field]

there is a wowhead guide that says crit >mast>soemthing something

or you can check murlok

[jaunty notch]

yeah

[analog field]

but the point is that people usually dont have the choice

[jaunty notch]

my bad I asked my class discord for any guidance

won't happen guys

[analog field]

it doesnt work like this

[jaunty notch]

you always have choice bro

you can farm alternative of every raid item in m+

[prisma carbon]

everyone else just sims themselves and does what the robot says

[eternal sandal]

prism + lily is trolling or what guys?

[jaunty notch]

• have 3 free item with turbo bosst

[analog field]

no i cannot i am 730 ilvl , i dont use hero items

also turbo boost will be 3 important items like 2 trinkets and a dagger

0 stat

i run sims with 10million combinations and all are exactly the same with -0.2 to 0.2 diff

[haughty flicker]

your friend should probably not use lily and prism at the same time

[analog field]

it really doesnt matter

[jaunty notch]

you still have a general guidance as I said earlier

someone playing raid only

730 ilvl while having 40% haste and 30% versa is trolling

that why

[eternal sandal]

thx ill let them know they wasted cartel chips (i didnt need them anyway).

[jaunty notch]

I asked

[analog field]

the guidance is crit and mastery are better than the other 2

[analog field]

it is not trolling though

[jaunty notch]

xd

[analog field]

your dps will be 1% lower or sth

[jaunty notch]

[analog field]

raid should be doable with 20 ilvl lower

probably swapping to maghar is a bigger difference than gems at this point

[jaunty notch]

hey bro

[analog field]

you can try simming what i am saying and you will get a result from a better source

[jaunty notch]

being able to kill boss with 20 ilvl less is once again not my point

but yeah, agree to disagree ig

[analog field]

but the truth is if you want to minmax raidbots is the way

if you dont care about minmaxing your question is irrelevant

[prisma carbon]

you want to prio crit mastery and then some haste and verse is not bad
but to find out how much of each stat you want, you'll have to sim your own character
and yeah if you have sort of end game gear, the gain will be like .2% so it doesnt matter much

[fallow canopy]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[jaunty notch]

is it too hard to say what the median player is doing ?

asking this the friendly way

I doubt top 100 player have all different stat

should all be around the same % 5~ difference at max

[analog field]

whispyr has all mast crit gems i have blasphemite, another guy will have vers for m+

[jaunty notch]

like, what YOU guys have for raid for example

[prisma carbon]

aight bro just copy my stats

[analog field]

i don't understand why you think that 500 vers will change something

[jaunty notch]

THANKS

THAT ALL I ASKED

[analog field]

xd

[jaunty notch]

so

YEAH

OUR STAT

LOOK THE SAME

GG

[balmy condor]

please don't tell me to sim and optimize

I want to optimize by just copying the average

please please please don't make my optimize myself

I beg

[fallow canopy]

oh no whisp took the bait

[balmy condor]

just give me some generalized slop

[nimble tartan]

copy my stats if u want to be top 50

dwarf

[sharp viper]

okay I will allow you to not do it this once

[royal lantern]

not really

[sharp viper]

because you've been a good boy

[royal lantern]

like, the difference will not be gigantic lmao

[analog field]

you are not fair, i answered firstly and siad i have same crit mast but more vers less haste

[balmy condor]

it's just fascinating to see want to be optimized but then fail to do the ONE THING that they could to optimize

[jaunty notch]

[balmy condor]

would rather go against the grain and ask some stupid shit about "the median" or some nonsense

as if that would help

[nimble tartan]

oh ya when do i pot i saw someone was like pot and prism before something so ur coins do dam

[fallow canopy]

the dichotomy of man frfr

[prisma carbon]

simming takes like 5mins and i dont have the patience to wait that long

[nimble tartan]

i dont follow that rule yet cause i didnt think about it i could find some dam there…

[balmy condor]

like what compels people to want to be optimal, but then refuse to do the thing that would give them the answer

[royal lantern]

well, its simply

people have the "bis list" mindset

[balmy condor]

there's probably some psychology paper about it idk

[cinder seal]

Hey guys, can someone tell me why I have a 20-second cooldown at 2:20 in the video in the middle of the fight with Salhadaar?? Yea I have the coin buff. It's breake my brain. Or its an old bugy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWeEWeOqMuQ

I have 3 times of 15 pulls.

[royal lantern]

not realising that "bis lists" where just a thing that was used because we didnt know better back in the days

lol

[pliant remnant]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[balmy condor]

without looking, tier set bug

yep lmao

[sharp viper]

#assassination message