assassination

[nova kelp]

I'd play warlock though I think

maybe

[haughty flicker]

i think the only fight i mightve been benched on eventually wouldve been stix

but i played boomkin that fight because we were struggling so bad with the bombshells

still havent washed that off

but it got the kill

[nova kelp]

just when you thought it couldn't get worse than "hunter"

the man pulls out the chicken

[haughty flicker]

it had to be done

at the time we had 0 boomkins

[nova kelp]

yeah, you make it someone else 😛

[haughty flicker]

and like 11-12 melee or something silly

it was so giga cursed

[nova kelp]

yeah, we got that issue too

a lot of our super reliables are all in the melee crew

kinda annoying spot

having all your "gota bring him" being melee is definitely the shittier deal

[oak tangle]

one of my guilds problems, is we dont have anyone who wants to raid lead, so we rotate leader each tier

[haughty flicker]

that is very cursed yeah

[pliant remnant]

That's one of the most cursed things I've ever heard

[oak tangle]

it's not per team members, but our officer group, so i lead it some tiers

generally involves raiding till aotc then quit

[tawdry halo]

Pres evoker terrorism

[cunning needle]

delete evokers

[small viper]

I dont understand the sim outcomes for my vault this week. It's telling me a mythic Ring of the Panopoly is better than hero Logic Gate: Alpha, and that Ticking Sack of Terror is better than Empowering Crystal of Anub'ikkaj.

[golden loom]

Link da sim

[small viper]

oh I didnt know that was an option. Can I just paste the url?

[golden loom]

Ye

[small viper]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ukjVXGkMu3Q172p1hpndvV

[coral ibex]

are you intentionally in m+ spec

simming patchwerk with full raid buffs

[golden loom]

Ring makes sense cause you are bleed build in single target so the sim will love some haste

[small viper]

Ok, so it's me not understanding a few things. Makes sense.

Thank you both

[coral ibex]

if you want to sim for m+ use dungeonslice

[golden loom]

And ticking sack is a pure single target trinket aswell so

[coral ibex]

instead of patchwerk

[small viper]

Do people normally have different sets of items for M+ vs raid?

[coral ibex]

sometimes

its more likely that people have different sets of items for different specs

[golden loom]

My different set of items for m+ is swapping my neck to a crafted one and swapping pacemaker to ritual forge and swapping spec to sub

[pliant remnant]

Worse, I have a different spec for M+ vs raid

[tender kelp]

morning, anyone here playin assa in m+? I feel like I've hit a wall or smth and cannot get my ST up even though I sweat blood
I know it's not great with m+ talents but man do I suck when the boss is longer & no bl

[normal mist]

Nah no one in #assassination plays assa in keys
Your st in m+ will be low if the tanks don't pull trash into the boss

Its a "deal with it" angle

[waxen oyster]

I mean you either pull trash with boss or accept you're third

[normal mist]

Unless you're really fucking up your st rotation

[tender kelp]

I saw that many ppl switch from assa to sub in m+ so that's why I started like that

[waxen oyster]

sub is good at different things

[tender kelp]

okay, it's just so frustrating sometimes to look like a wheelchair on ST boss, however the overall is great

hopefully pug will start to deal with it more

[normal mist]

Then you're doing a great job dw

[waxen oyster]

its about overall anyway

st bosses are far and few

[tender kelp]

e.g. hoa is like one of those dungs yeah

[waxen oyster]

you can pull trash into boss

for those

[golden loom]

First 3 bosses you have funnel in HoA

Only last boss that is pure ST and even there u can start with trash

[tender kelp]

oh im just doing +12/+13 havent seen that yet

only with first one

[waxen oyster]

yeah pug tanks you just accept being 3.5m andy

on st boss

[golden loom]

2nd boss spawns adds so even better

[tender kelp]

yeah 2nd boss is nice with that

[waxen oyster]

sub definitely has its strong points this season though

and double coup tier means your 30s dance windows arent completely anemic

[tender kelp]

I was thinking of switching for higher keys as I progress, but I have everything crafter crit/mast

[golden loom]

I mean thats totally fine

[waxen oyster]

yeah

[buoyant herald]

That’s fine for sub

[tender kelp]

oh wow okay

[waxen oyster]

i have 2 crafted items

in my sin setup though

[tender kelp]

I had only like 10% versa when I switched to sub

[buoyant herald]

Sub only dislikes haste

[golden loom]

More than me when I play sub

[waxen oyster]

i have 30 xd

pre buffs

[tender kelp]

i have both daggers plus neck & wrist since I dont do mythic raid

oh well

then it's time to try that

[waxen oyster]

my sin gear

XD

[tender kelp]

[golden loom]

I have first boss ring + HoA ring + crit mast crafted neck for sub

[waxen oyster]

sub build is 729.25

streets neck aint it for sub

since haste

[golden loom]

Yeah thats what I change

Same boat

[waxen oyster]

dawg

my sub sim

[distant plinth]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[waxen oyster]

hates logic alpha

idk why

[haughty flicker]

im using a neck with haste on sub

[golden loom]

My 2 730 rings are alpha and hoa ring so

[haughty flicker]

also i still have a hero track chest

[golden loom]

Not much choice

[haughty flicker]

which goes insanely hard

[waxen oyster]

like vers mast crafted sims higher for my sub

other ring is priory

[golden loom]

Maybe I get something like big momma neck from vault today

[waxen oyster]

on war or

[golden loom]

Then I dont even have to recraft neck

[distant plinth]

Well ofc, sub is vers mast heavy specc

[golden loom]

Nah on rogue for sub keys

[waxen oyster]

nah alot of people logic alpha sims high

you still want some crit

[haughty flicker]

i am using logic alpha

[distant plinth]

Well yea cant just full blast vers/mast on all but if u get some crit from other stuff then the ring is useless

[waxen oyster]

like my sim likes crit vers neck for sub

not vers mast

seen alot with a crit vers neck and alpha though

[golden loom]

I have not simmed for sub at all though

[waxen oyster]

well it does sim higher on dslice but

fake content

[distant plinth]

Shameless

[waxen oyster]

i got haste mast helm on war

[golden loom]

If I played it in raid I would

[waxen oyster]

from vault

as my one option

[distant plinth]

You dont swap to sub on few bosses at all?

[golden loom]

Hell no

[distant plinth]

This guy really hates damage

[waxen oyster]

bro is in warrior jail

[distant plinth]

Reroll healer my guy

[golden loom]

Sin is just better in raid also

[waxen oyster]

also sub isnt even better now

post turbo

[balmy condor]

hey don't upset the sub rogues, they can still pad out of their minds if the rest of the raid is afk

they just need 6 carries

then they'll do damage

promise

[waxen oyster]

XDD

[balmy condor]

[waxen oyster]

i made the mistake playing sub on last araz reclear

i got 0 pad value

[golden loom]

I play sub in keys cause its kinda fun not cause I think its better

[balmy condor]

yeh gg

that's actual Zdps

araz as sub in turbo boost

[tawdry halo]

I only play sub on soul hunters because I don’t want to track all the dots

[balmy condor]

sounds like actual hard trolling

[waxen oyster]

now even worse

[tawdry halo]

[waxen oyster]

with another aura

[golden loom]

Fatebound

[waxen oyster]

im only playing it on dimmy because

[tawdry halo]

Ooh

[waxen oyster]

i can play with my dick in hand

half the pull

[tawdry halo]

That’s actually good tech wtf

Why didn’t I think of fatebound

[balmy condor]

cause no one thinks of fatebound

[tawdry halo]

[balmy condor]

fatebound is too passive to think about

[waxen oyster]

ima be real

[haughty flicker]

i thought of fatebound like a month ago but people were not impressed

[waxen oyster]

sub on sh rn is cursed

[haughty flicker]

[waxen oyster]

since often you will kill 1-2 of them

before pot cds set

[tawdry halo]

I don’t want to parse I just want it to be over

[haughty flicker]

my guild has decided to just never reclear dh

so i dont have to worry about that

[golden loom]

Thats why I had to pug it

[tawdry halo]

[waxen oyster]

we had 2 mythic leather boots drop

when all our mains had

gg

[golden loom]

Based no comms,4 heal, ffa dispells and both tanks were dead as boss died

Pugs are goated

[waxen oyster]

ima be real part of me only plays sub on sh

because i got healer trust issues

and its tankier

[tawdry halo]

Real

[haughty flicker]

i liked playing sub during prog

90s basically always lines up with times they are all together

you just chill

[waxen oyster]

yeah i liked complaining

one heal

[golden loom]

I died at end of p2 intermission with cds up as all bosses were 10% cause 2 different people moved last second

[waxen oyster]

when my ass was being eaten by frailty

[haughty flicker]

but i also progged for like 7 pulls

of my guilds 3 and a half weeks

so

[waxen oyster]

3.5 weeks on sh

what the helly

[tawdry halo]

[haughty flicker]

mightve only been 2.5 idr

i wasnt there

internet blew up

[tawdry halo]

Who’s the bucket of cement weighing you down

[haughty flicker]

we all suck

myself included

[golden loom]

Wait maybe the pug was just carried by this goat wtf

[tawdry halo]

That pally

[waxen oyster]

bruh

meanwhile some pugs i see

[tawdry halo]

Real and based

[waxen oyster]

cant kill loom

[golden loom]

The guy also played ret on every boss except SH

Goat shit

[tawdry halo]

What a chad

[waxen oyster]

ngl

most healer mains are asscheeks at dps

[golden loom]

This guy might be him

[haughty flicker]

actual gamers

also now that my internet is un blown up my aio blew up

so im progging nexus king on a laptop with 20 fps

[tawdry halo]

Better work out who cursed you solve it quick

[knotty vapor]

finally got something over 90 in mythic

feelsgood

[pliant remnant]

[knotty vapor]

the late night gaming struggle

[oak tangle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7pw8HGvHTAxGrgDQgwidDP

we climbing

[real pike]

anyone noticed soulgorged augment rune issues? I killed DH yesterday and didn't get any runes in loot

ah shit wrong channel soz

[knotty vapor]

wlel

since u posted it

yes

i havent had any in like 2 weeks

i just killed them tonight even, nothin

[golden loom]

Isnt it just a chance to get them

Like the first time you got them from the quest

[real pike]

is that a one time thing

cause it reads like you just get 3 every time you kill them

[golden loom]

Head-hunting was the quest atleast

[serene mason]

@radiant raven

[radiant raven]

Hell yeah

I thought I recognised the name haha

[stable sinew]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[oak tangle]

ay yo wtf

get rinsed diminishius

[brittle garnet]

Average rogue day

[halcyon flame]

You cant blame them ,rogue has nothing to provide in a party ,something blizzard should think in the future ,I quit pushing on my rogue and went to have fun on hunter and dk in m+

[nova aspen]

rogue would provide funnel if they fixed the spec

[oak tangle]

but it does tho

[thick sequoia]

Hey! Is deathstalker still the play in keys or is it situational? been out the loop for a while

[oak tangle]

bleed build is bis yes

[thick sequoia]

Thanks dude!

[weary stump]

Raid group has too much melee in soul Hunter mythic prog so they're having me be a wet noodle to just do all the mechanics in Narnia this is a solution of all time

[oak tangle]

is the reasoning "you have dots"

[weary stump]

No the reasoning is just the rest of the melee have short buses

[oak tangle]

busses?

[weary stump]

I'm on my phone I'm sorry

[oak tangle]

buses?

[weary stump]

If I don't zero parse if we even kill with this comp though, I am concerned about society

[weary stump]

Well yeah each one has their own singular person bus

[oak tangle]

i have no clue what you mean

bus to me is a vehicle

[weary stump]

Oh, I'm saying they have brain damage in an American way

[oak tangle]

i see

unintelligent

they are all ret pallies

XD

[weary stump]

Told my raid lead I might be the singular rogue getting forced to do the first ire debuff and the first hunt soak in combination

Funny times truly

[nova aspen]

i was in the first hunt soak group

but an ire debuff soaker is cooked

💀

[weary stump]

Imagine doing both

I cloak ire's healing debuff right before the hunt comes out so I don't get completely nuked

[humble verge]

i already bought prism last week on this alt

[tawdry halo]

What on earth is this for a strat

[weary stump]

The "the rogue must suffer after vibing on fract" strat honestly

[humble verge]

finally

🥲

i got it

it only took me 12 weeks of vaults

[weary stump]

Huge

[tawdry halo]

Who’s not vibing on frac?

What is this bizarro world

[weary stump]

They just hate me in particular and I'm making a joke with how boring the st fatebound rotation is

[tawdry halo]

[minor dagger]

near bis gear, with antenna, versa > mastery > crit? having a tough time simming

[humble verge]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[weary stump]

Also sim early, sim often

[tawdry halo]

Honestly just aim droptimiser at full upgrade at this point

[weary stump]

[tawdry halo]

*sim

[humble verge]

watafakk

didnt even see the avoidance

[weary stump]

Huge

[humble verge]

(i will never be using it)

[weary stump]

You're out there forging your weave

[crude wigeon]

(Flex on the brokies)

[tawdry halo]

Wdym its clearly time for sub rogue

[humble verge]

dub rogue?

oh you mean -antenna +forge for assa?

[tawdry halo]

Wait do you have prism?

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-guys-not-have-a-phone-blizzard-diablo-gif-5097388828827651695

*prism

[tawdry halo]

If you have forge it’s Double on use sub rogue reroll time

[humble verge]

ive had prism since like

our 2nd? frac kill

[humble verge]

im not gonna play the worse spec wdym

[tawdry halo]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-congrats-kid-congratulations-nice-gif-11565253382391449339

[humble verge]

like why would i go for a worse 99 percentile

[tawdry halo]

Double on use is fun?

[humble verge]

nah

im good using 1

[tawdry halo]

Idk trying to get you use out of your forge

[humble verge]

im gonna have it sit in my bags

[minor dagger]

thats no evenly close to accurate near bis gera, sims are going for versa >=mast > crit > haste

[humble verge]

like i did with every other trinket last and season before

[normal mist]

I do believe what you said isn't true

[tawdry halo]

Maybe for sub

[normal mist]

Sims depend on YOUR gear

[tawdry halo]

Those stats are right

Assa doesn’t have bad stats

[weary stump]

It'll be a thing you can use in midnight for 5 seconds if you choose to roll sub for the very beginning

[normal mist]

Yeah, this is Assa

[tawdry halo]

Gonna be a mean 150g when midnight launches

Don’t spend it all at once

[weary stump]

That's gonna get you a repair on your dagger once

[humble verge]

nah

i imagine since they are removing abilities

they could just REMOVE SOME FUCKING REPAIR BILLS TOO

[weary stump]

Never

[red schooner]

Thematic

[weary stump]

Don't you guys have gold

[red schooner]

Like parries

[tawdry halo]

Parries in 2025

[weary stump]

When dimensius parries the rogues knife

[golden loom]

atleast they are removing transmog costs

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-silly-funny-funny-seal-stick-tongue-out-gif-5394690607051197505

[weary stump]

I will continue to enjoy annoying my raid by not transmogging anything

[real pike]

Someone offered me 100k for the cosmic hearthstone in lfr yesterday

[weary stump]

You basically got the ethereal augment rune for the cosmic hearthstone then

[real pike]

Would have increased my account by 33%

I did not take it

[sharp viper]

it's a good hearthstone animation

[real pike]

It's really quite pretty

[main bridge]

So is your FACE

[hollow smelt]

Wholesome

[fallow canopy]

no u

[royal lantern]

my brother in christ

you raided like 9 days a week and didnt even get HoF

i expect everything from you at this point

[humble verge]

i raided 3 days wdym

🤨

maybe i shouldnt be talking as much as i do here anymore

[severe meadow]

I love Uber…

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-confused-psyduck-gif-5762799

[severe meadow]

Post the little dude

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-love-hi-bye-cat-gif-5848836

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/say-the-line-bart-school-millhouse-classroom-gif-26683141

[royal lantern]

man, i just remember your salahdar arc

where we had like daily prog updates

[pure moth]

I noticed a bit of fatebound recently on soul hunters. I cant imagine that be THE best though? Also seems like they do well based on logs. Whats the simplest way to play the fight?

[royal lantern]

probs people just to lazy for swapping

[humble verge]

you just have to time your DN

its not that hard

[pure moth]

Same concept though. Target one, make sure all have bleeds. Rinse repeat

[royal lantern]

play bleed build

keep bleeds running

swap mark to the guy that stays in the intermission like ~20sec before it starts to be save

thats it

[humble verge]

youll always have DM up

for all the intermissions

[pure moth]

Gotcha

[humble verge]

so even if you have mark on another target

you can just dm vanish shiv and ambush

and you have it again

[royal lantern]

big vault

[fallow canopy]

Its basically always hit the tank dh i dont remember the name and then basically its 1:40 time to mark adarus oh its 3:44 its time to mark velaryn and depending on damage you may or not see the last intermission

[humble verge]

rich

[royal lantern]

my networth increased by 4000%

[fallow canopy]

The rich get richer

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/poor-gif-23166194

[severe meadow]

Share with the poor…

[pure moth]

Ok thanks

[weary stump]

Do what my raid lead told me to start doing yesterday in prog and you don't even think about doing DPS anyways

[sleek spear]

yes bro it is showing me that Lily + Netherprism is BIS and on par with Lily + Antenna

assuming all are 730. which is super confusing lol

[grim jay]

try simming nightly

maybe something broke

on latest

also in that case araz would sim even better

[weary stump]

True

[nova kelp]

my point was lily + nether, even if it APPEARS equal isn't because double on use is poo

stick with antenna, forget it

[sleek spear]

yeah makes sense. i see all top rogues going with Netherprism + Antenna

i can trust that

[nova kelp]

it was all a figment of your imagination

[sleek spear]

since they have the results on warcraft logs to back it up

[sharp viper]

now what did your RL tell you to do

[sleek spear]

i have to decide between Mythic chest piece VS Antenna

guess its 100% Antenna then

[nova kelp]

purchase antenna from dinar
pick chest

[sharp viper]

or craft chest, pick antenna, buy boots with dinar if you have teh SH kill

[nova kelp]

that too

[weary stump]

I'm doing the first ire debuff into the first hunt soak

[fallow canopy]

You are assigned to clear puddles?

[weary stump]

Yeah it's a funny time

[fallow canopy]

Oh that's cursed

[weary stump]

I clear puddles, cloak when I get 8 of the ire healing debuff, take hunt soak, and then swap the ire to the next lad

Basically I'm hitting boss for the first like ten seconds and then I'm in Narnia for 50 seconds

[sleek spear]

i wanna save dinar for boots / araz trinket.
already used +3 on netherprism

[sleek spear]

how do we craft chest and convert it to tier is it possible?

[haughty flicker]

my rl nearly made me do that shit when i came back for prog

[fallow canopy]

Does your RL not trust ranged? Or do you not have enough ranged? That just sounds like a nightmare

[haughty flicker]

actually cursed stuff

[weary stump]

Not enough ranged

Also 4 healing

I'm doing like mythic plus boss DPS for the first minute due to this

[fallow canopy]

That sounds very not fun

My condolences

[weary stump]

We're only killing it once so I just kinda accepted it so long as everything else gets done

[sharp viper]

Not possible but you can use chest as non tier piece option

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-usagi-this-person-is-km-near-your-house-gif-9054064921426071465

[sharp viper]

I hate your raid leader

[weary stump]

Yeah

[sharp viper]

That is war crime Levels of assignments

Tell your ranged DPS to git gud

[severe meadow]

Do you have no ranged or what's up with that

[weary stump]

We have 6 ranged DPS and four healers

That is our existence

[severe meadow]

We have a giga cursed comp, let me see how much ranged we have

(2 Surv hunters)

[weary stump]

2 survival hunters is funny ngl

[severe meadow]

We also have 6 ranged

[golden loom]

just tell those fuckers to go BM for the fight wtf

[severe meadow]

They are for Dimmy

[golden loom]

or MM

[fallow canopy]

Thats enough no?

[severe meadow]

it is

[fallow canopy]

You need 6 ranged and 3 healers iirc

[weary stump]

Yeah it is, but you see

[fallow canopy]

Understandable

[weary stump]

I just accept that I am a 4-5mil DPS on a 3 target council here

Because I'm at the boss once a game year

[severe meadow]

We did a reclear last night

FB was chill on Hunters

[weary stump]

I'll let y'all know if I am ever freed from these mechanical shackles

But I imagine not

[hidden crystal]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FXMKVv9xjtApR86Q?fight=2&type=casts&source=121&view=timeline what am i looking at here

[severe meadow]

Yes

[hidden crystal]

Lol

so THATS what im doing wrong.

[weary stump]

If that was real man got the action speed of a stimmed up zergling

[fallow canopy]

Good luck

[severe meadow]

Looks like it just didn't log properly

Squished it for some reason

[hidden crystal]

yeah i think you are right. none of the others are like that.

it was just funny to look at

i was like 'hmm what can i do better. oh. that'

[haughty flicker]

seems legit

[severe meadow]

Yeah simply slam 10 envenoms and CDs within 3 seconds

[weary stump]

Nozdormu... The time ways

[hidden crystal]

im really gonna be at a disadvantage until i get a mythic prism to replace myth lily arent i

[severe meadow]

Prism do be pretty strong, but Lily isn't that bad either

[sleek spear]

ah makes sense. then i can use crit/haste tier shoulders then

[oak tangle]

that's not a log properly thing, that's likely some dawg went into the logfile and compressed the times

[humble verge]

aint no way

i finally might be able to do mount sales

[winged widget]

Sup y'all. My guild is progging mythic Dim and a doubt came to them. If I use Cloak during the big circle soak in P1, does it mess with it somehow? Like it will treat as if I'm not standing on it or something?
never felt like this was an issue with any other soak mechanic ever, but they asked me to ask here for confirmation

[humble verge]

usually

[royal lantern]

it should work

[humble verge]

what my GM/RL put up

was secquencing cloak into the first big devour

where you gate

[royal lantern]

cus cloak is coded as "you take dmg, but the dmg is reduced to 0" basically

[humble verge]

you WANT to cloak

because you probably have a shaman linking

and cloaking helps a lot there

also you basically take no damage

since the devour damage is magic

[winged widget]

thanks a lot

[humble verge]

because if you dont pop anything there

ure basically dead anyways almost

or you proc cheat

which is bad

[winged widget]

yeah, i was definitely getting nuked into oblivion there

first set was fine, but the 2nd one trucks

[humble verge]

first set is never supposed to hurt really

[royal lantern]

i never used anything for that one

not even feint

https://tenor.com/view/vae-gif-15357506855217945854

[humble verge]

actually trolling

making your healers gigaheal u

smh

[royal lantern]

spirit link is placed

wdym

like, i dont even go into the red area on that one lol

[humble verge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646043012924964896/1366193457395142686/LEGION_LEADER.gif

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/gomylegion-roman-cats-roman-cat-legion-cat-legion-gif-6566687838415624047

[humble verge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462658384295100427/1408530850265694278/chobotchu_-_1958653731836162201.gif

[coral jasper]

Do we want vers as assa in raid?

Duno whats best stat balance for raid. Im runing sims and sims and im still not sure lol

[runic hinge]

I just do what the sims say

[haughty flicker]

i just do what his sims say too

[spice spire]

[royal lantern]

[weary stump]

We don't have a nexus princess glorpeza edit yet which is truly tragic

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/open-close-open-twitter-twitter-gif-14219882

[keen ridge]

outlaw rogue swapping to a playable spec for dimmensius prog, Should I macro prism to deathmark, vanish or hold it for the damage amp? How long does it take to max the stacks?

[ripe bobcat]

+- 2-3min

[keen ridge]

so if we phase p3 at 6 mins, macro'd to vanish and then vanishing every other deathmark should work good?

[runic hinge]

That’s what most people do I think

[humble verge]

sad sight to see

[main bridge]

Is it because those people aren’t in the guild anymore?

[haughty flicker]

o7

[humble verge]

yes

[hollow smelt]

o7

[humble verge]

well damn

midnight prepatch already dropping in jan

[cloud basin]

dont have access to myth items on my rogue this season, so which heroic ones are good to get with the chips? I assume trinkets

[coral ibex]

you can get myth gear by doing a +12

[cloud basin]

oh i know, i didnt play rogue this tier though so my rogue is 680 lol

[latent gazelle]

Would say sim it

But prolly buy trinkets craft MH dagger

[autumn idol]

ive been off for 2 weeks and suddenly assassination is top 5 in mythic logs. is the bugfix the only thing that happened to the spec?

[latent gazelle]

Kill times got shorter, bosses got nerffed, ilvl increase with turbo boost. All things to take into account

[autumn idol]

all of that is true but wasnt ass the very bottom 4-5 weeks ago

[buoyant herald]

Assa has no burst aoe, now adds don’t live long enough for anyone to do burst aoe

Meanwhile boss damage has steadily risen while other specs are still chasing that aoe dragon

[haughty flicker]

it also was never very bottom anyway

like bottom third for a bit but never all the way down

[cloud basin]

atleast you arent devastation evoker🤡

[buoyant herald]

But also yeah FB bug fixed, perhaps some nicer kill timers

[haughty flicker]

also i started playing again

so i brought the average back up

[buoyant herald]

I always forget that one

I did a few clears as outlaw which brought the assa average up too

And outlaw down 🤔

[haughty flicker]

[coral ibex]

also some fights literally removed add damage from logs entirely

or enough to make it not worth it

[royal lantern]

no, its Bel

[coral ibex]

and assa has always been a top boss dam spec

ipso facto

big dam

[balmy condor]

Bel pulled the average up, I saw it

[royal lantern]

Reverse Warlock Main

[cloud basin]

guess that means i can pull it up more LOL, bit tired of dev evoker atm honestly

[buoyant herald]

Assa is very chill, and a few of the fights really suit it

[cloud basin]

didnt even make it an entire season before picking assa back up lol

[buoyant herald]

Literally me in undermine

Went dev for two weeks before making some other poor melee go ranged instead

[cloud basin]

undermine turned me off of it a bit honestly, partially cuz of my guild. But i had been assa from DF til s3 of tww

Dev is good, but like eh? Im def not playing it next season, not unless they change things

[weary stump]

We flip coins, we try to not fall asleep

It's a simple life as assassination

[buoyant herald]

I know it’s not for everyone but I like the slower pace

[waxen panther]

on soul hunters what would be the correct way to manage rupture for fatebound

[agile geode]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[coral ibex]

respec to m+ bleed build

[rigid tartan]

Looking at rankings there does not seem to be an advantage doing that over the standard fb+caustic build numerically

[analog field]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[waxen panther]

taht didnt answer my question

[haughty flicker]

im not sure what answer there would be to your question other than just keep rupture up

there isnt some secret to it

[oblique flume]

Hey, ppl that are using prism, we want to use it whenever it reashes 9 stacks or always align it with deathmark ?

[haughty flicker]

if you're playing fb use it every 3m

so basically every time you use vanish+deathmark

as deathstalker you can basically just macro it to deathmark

as fb can macro it to vanish, just be sure to vanish before pressing dm+kb

[oblique flume]

Ty

[strange python]

CS or IB for mythic Loom?

[red schooner]

IB

[shy axle]

when do you use prism on king? just at the %amp phase or before?

[analog field]

0 1:30 4:30

[shy axle]

thank you

[analog field]

you can check the site lorrgs

it shows these things

[agile geode]

guys i have a dumb doubt i am 729 itemlvl and i have 15.8M hp is it normal or i should have more?

[analog field]

normal

[haughty flicker]

Idk that sounds fine

We don't get any extra stamina from talents so you'll be a bit below some other classes

[agile geode]

okok thanks

[hearty coral]

Does it matter if a spec stacks versatility sub instead crit like us? I mean, it doesnt make sub more tanky than us?

[jovial solar]

Can somone explain in simple terms why and when we use vanish ?

[normal mist]

!dj

[prisma monolith]

Vanishing On Fatebound

• you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
• this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
• because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
• edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
• you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst

[normal mist]

^

Tldr If you're not playing prism: vanish right after pressing KB

[buoyant herald]

A little bit, yes, but sub also has some nice healing talents

[haughty flicker]

Vers does make you tankier, though sub is tankier than us because of talents more so than vers

[hearty coral]

So the talents plus all the vers

I always played assa since legion but im reading every where that sub is way better for m+ and raid right now

[haughty flicker]

Well assa is very good in raid atm

M+ I don't think any rogue spec is really considered meta

[vital haven]

no rogue spec is part of the meta comps

but sub rogue is prob the strongest out of all the rogue specs

[analog field]

yeah but the difference shouldn't be that much though

[hearty coral]

Ye i mean i dont care while i enjoy my spec.. I love envenom sound and poison bomb proc

[analog field]

and sub needs very good pulling around

[royal lantern]

thats only because Bel is not pushing rn

[haughty flicker]

True

[vital haven]

ofc ofc

[haughty flicker]

Although I'd be pushing on hunter

[vital haven]

traitor

[haughty flicker]

[normal mist]

You can't even see the poison bomb procs:')

Due to all the shit on the floor

[hearty coral]

Sometimes XD

[haughty flicker]

You see it enough that people mistake it for caustic

[buoyant herald]

Where are you reading everywhere sub is better for everything

[hearty coral]

Can you guys suggest me any good to have weak auras? I have one for kings bane which i love

[buoyant herald]

It’s probably better in keys if played around, probably worse in raid in general

[vital haven]

for a while it was better in 1. the last 2 boss fights and 2. high m+

for a lot of ppl here thats everything

[buoyant herald]

That’s probably a bit outdated now but yeah it was for a time

[haughty flicker]

Tbh I think its probably the opposite atm

[main bridge]

people saw it in the RWF and now it's the best forever

[buoyant herald]

Really

[haughty flicker]

If tank isn't pulling adds onto boss then sub prob just better

And in raid assa probably just better

Unless you can pad still

Like I can

[buoyant herald]

I cab nod

Big aoe blasters in my guild

[haughty flicker]

I cab nod type

[buoyant herald]

Have you got a cold

[haughty flicker]

No just dumb

[buoyant herald]

To be fair I haven’t played sub in keys since getting decent trinkets but without netherprism I felt a bit meh

[haughty flicker]

I think I've done like 4 keys in the last month

But before that I prob played sub more than assa

Felt very good with 4p

Plus my guild hates me

[buoyant herald]

I didn’t mind the playstyle and blaming poor performance on a missing trinket is cringe but

[haughty flicker]

So no funnel

[buoyant herald]

Couldn’t shake the feeling that I was trolling when I could barely hit like 2/3 of the peak I’ve seen others do

[royal lantern]

world first raid 12 years ago

sub was top dps on dimi there, so its the best right? (lets just ignore the WHY and that its 3months away at this point)

[haughty flicker]

My secret is i always do 2/3 what others do regardless of spec

Equally mediocre

My superpower

[royal lantern]

real and based

[buoyant herald]

Solid strat, keep them underestimating you and never reveal your true power level

[fallow canopy]

That's why I always keep my int dagger on my OH

[digital venture]

I know it's hc and also a boost run but can anyone check my logs and see if I'm doing something wrong? I can't seem to get past purple and I can't cope and blame it on group cuz we were blasting...

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Ax9Q1YBvX8bjNmh3?type=damage-done&boss=-2&wipes=2&targetclass=Boss&start=93615&end=4576960

(pls ignore araz, I messed up real bad there xD)

[buoyant herald]

I’d argue that if you’re getting purples across the board you’re doing fine

But on heroic things like kill times have a big effect, adds get melted so you can’t pad like you could weeks ago

Eg a 2.46 loomithar means you just missed your 3rd DM, and wouldn’t have had time to fully stack netherprism if you’re using that

Plex at 2.30 and frac at 3.08 are both a bit tough as well

[analog field]

xd

[buoyant herald]

🤔

[severe meadow]

Tell them they need 16m hp

[analog field]

i really have not seen that

[haughty flicker]

That goes insanely hard

[analog field]

the guy invited me to his 18

and then checked my hp

and thought is not enough

[haughty flicker]

Time to start using stamina gems

[analog field]

funny thing is i die exactly last

[buoyant herald]

I mean that’s clearly a low information individual, I’d say you dodged a bullet

[analog field]

Yeah , it was just ultra funny

[thorn thorn]

Pugs and try not to make shit up challenge

[analog field]

said hi and kicked

[thorn thorn]

Difficulty impossible

[vital haven]

what was the key level?

[analog field]

18

[vital haven]

bro.... lol

i dont even know how much health i have

[analog field]

i saw my hp today

and saw 15.5

[vital haven]

like that is not something that i have looked at since forever

[analog field]

and i was like i have so much hp ?

turbo boost strong

[vital haven]

this aint fucking classic anymore

stam is normalized

[cyan surge]

Singular focus and sudden demise cuts through ilgynoth's 99% dmg reduction.

[royal lantern]

dont vibe with you bnet pfp, sorry gonna kick you

[high orchid]

do I need to think about thistle or can I just let it happen when I'm low

[nimble tartan]

guys i respecced all sin stuff for reclear this week and did well

[high orchid]

huge

[thorn thorn]

Macro to shiv and forget it exists

[high orchid]

oh ok

didn't think of that

ty

[royal lantern]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[royal lantern]

the macro

and when you have it, you forget tea exists

[humble verge]

the rich get richer

[stark matrix]

double on use on dimmy or nah?

[coral ibex]

do boosts pay big on eu or are you just boosting on 8 chars

[balmy condor]

no

never double on use for assassination

[high orchid]

hi whispyr

[balmy condor]

hello

[high orchid]

[stark matrix]

just the norm, treat prism as a 3m then?

[balmy condor]

depends on your platform timing and your other cd timing cause dimmy is a dogshit spreadsheet boss

but yeah sure

good enough

[stark matrix]

[coral ibex]

probably hold 18 stacks for the amp

[stark matrix]

gracias

[coral ibex]

unless you need platform dam

i revealed that i was sending 18 stacks on artosh and had 12 for the amp and my RL was not happy

[balmy condor]

I am assigned platform 2 but if we're pushing correctly the amp comes in with 20ish seconds left on dm

[coral ibex]

but thats how we progged so

not my problem

[balmy condor]

but our p3 timing is so fast that I can't send anything on the amp at all

cause if I send a raw kb on the amp

the delay means I lose a dm

so I have to hold everything while the amp is going

DM basically right as the amp ends

that way I get a second

I LOVE DIMMY

[coral ibex]

my solution to platform 2 is to not envenom first

just rupture from my saved cp and then into shiv dm kb

[balmy condor]

yeah see that works, if my dm would be up

[coral ibex]

wat

[balmy condor]

but it's not up from the first platform

[coral ibex]

are you just not pushing artoshion at the right time

[balmy condor]

[coral ibex]

they are NOT killing after the meteor

now i understand your cursed timings

[balmy condor]

atro is at around 10% after the first push

[coral ibex]

same but we get yelled at if we push early

[balmy condor]

yeh

we have decided to just send it

because it's just me + warlocks on plat 2

everyone else holds everything

[balmy condor]

yah

same

and then it's my dm + warlocks for voidwarden

and we push typically before the second push on plat 2

and my cds are just full sacked for consistency

[coral ibex]

thats cursed

[balmy condor]

we also have an aug

who was very upset to hear about my cd timing

[coral ibex]

im not surprised

dim logs are fucked

make that make sense

[past bobcat]

Hm I send on first plat and only send KB on 2nd plat

[coral ibex]

this makes more sense

[past bobcat]

I have DM and KB up for damage amp

[coral ibex]

i send everything always with as little drift as possible and there's no delay in starting cds on the amp

reclear will be another story

shits gonna be fucked

(we're not gonna hold anything)

[balmy condor]

yeh I tried that and we missed the push timer

my cd timings look like

almost okay

[past bobcat]

Like yesterday we pushed P1 at 2:18

GIGA cursed for the first platform

[balmy condor]

yeah

luckily we hold that one a little

because if we push too early my cds don't line up for plat 2

and then everything gets fucked

[past bobcat]

Yeah 2nd platform is just a hold angle unfort

[balmy condor]

we just giga pushed one time and then all the timings fell apart

and I'm like

well

no deathmark

and they're like okay we're perma holding for whispyr

and so it was

[past bobcat]

On dim thats a sort by BOSS DAMAGE kind of fight

[knotty vapor]

thats the only way i can take pride in my forge kills

hey guys look #1 on boss damage at least

[fallow canopy]

me landing on pargoth yesterday

[thorn thorn]

is it @safe frigate

[fallow canopy]

[knotty vapor]

my worst fight is soul hunters and i pugged a 99 in a heroic yesterday

entire group was cracked asf

shoulda formed a guild and killed them on mythic with them

[spice sentinel]

yeah its wild the disparity in pug groups lol, you either get all 6-8/8 M mains or alts or you get 2 intermissions on plexus

[knotty vapor]

its hilarious, the whole group was all like min 4/8m and still fell apart at dimmy

cuz nobody wanted to try

[balmy condor]

you mean, method guide writer for augmentation and devastation evoker, D. A. Ylea? Yeah, that's the one

[thorn thorn]

They make fun of me for my aug rng

[red schooner]

NK down, I got myself benched on dimmy. I think I'm free.

I can rest.

Finally

[balmy condor]

sorry, Icyveins Housing Guide Writer Daylea? yeah that's my aug evoker actually

[knotty vapor]

HOUSING GUIDE WRITER

[balmy condor]

sorry, you mean, the woman in a STEM field? That daylea?

yeah

that's my aug evoker

[thorn thorn]

All of that

And she has a wowhead guide writer as one of her dps

[knotty vapor]

im gonna write a housing guide that just covers the principles of environment design and teach people how to be game devs

[thorn thorn]

Unlucky

[balmy condor]

idk what's more demoralizing

being known as "the wowhead assa guy"

or "the wowhead news guy"

[thorn thorn]

You truly as the tonyhawk of wowhead writers

I hate to say it

But its true

[knotty vapor]

wait are you actually the news guy

the one posting the cursed headlines on twitter

[balmy condor]

I am one of the news guys

[knotty vapor]

the fucking ragebait tweets

[balmy condor]

no that one isn't me

[knotty vapor]

thank god lmao

[thorn thorn]

Squeshei

[knotty vapor]

that mf is evil

[thorn thorn]

Or however its spelled

[balmy condor]

I just do all of d4 news

"wowhead does d4 guides?"
yes

that's the natural follow up

I am aware

[thorn thorn]

I was actually gonna ask why they have a wow writer doing d4 stuff

[knotty vapor]

surprised there's enough people playing d4 to warrant a news tab

[thorn thorn]

[balmy condor]

without going into too much detail

d4 news is uh

doing well

[knotty vapor]

hm yes i see

[spice spire]

You have to remember that d4 is on all consoles as well

[balmy condor]

d4 as a division is also not targetting the average wowhead user

[spice spire]

And a lot of casual mfs love the game and look up guides and news all the time it makes sense to a degree that d4 news is good

[balmy condor]

like the news articles that you see from me from d4

are specifically written differently

than the news you see from wow

by design

[spice spire]

Too bad I see a lot of them because I support the homies

Get woke bozo

[thorn thorn]

Whipsyr is an advanced journalist lads

He is moving up in the world

We are so proud

[knotty vapor]

THE d4 news guy

[thorn thorn]

Look on the plus side

[knotty vapor]

okay cmon logs site, let me fucking click the number to see the leaderboard

[thorn thorn]

At least you dont have a reputation like Preheat

[balmy condor]

we have an entire different target demographic, and we also target them through different means (as in like, we can't just rely on every wow discord on earth having a bot channel that gets infinity clicks from people)

[thorn thorn]

Top secret

[balmy condor]

so we have to get a little creative

and do things a lil differently

but I'm also one of the few multi-division people

so I've ghostwritten stuff for retail, and classic

I kinda float around as required

[merry solar]

Does anyone know how tf this is possible? looking at mythic salhadaar logs and people seem to have different coldblood and kingsbane timers. The earliest i can send my CB is always 1:36 while people are doing pre 1:30.

[thorn thorn]

Do we get to know who is gonna do the devourer dh writing

[knotty vapor]

so like... you get paid for this?

this your job?

[thorn thorn]

[balmy condor]

yes, I quit my day job to do this

[knotty vapor]

damn nice

I kinda just figured all the guide writers did it for fun in spare time

[balmy condor]

no

[thorn thorn]

They get paid in monies

[balmy condor]

every guide position is paid

even the ones you don't click on, like method

[thorn thorn]

I forget method exists tbh

I exclusively use wowhead

[knotty vapor]

aiite i see u wowhead, i see u movin

[thorn thorn]

Oh yea IV is a thing too

[knotty vapor]

i remember back in the day refusing to use IV because it didn't agree with the wowhead guides

like... way back

[balmy condor]

I got an offer from some pvp website that’s trying to branch into m+

That was also paid

[thorn thorn]

I dont use IV because my eyes are bad and everything on that website is too damn bright

Wowhead has natty darkmode

[knotty vapor]

IV is high contrast

and very noisy

unpleasant to the eye

[thorn thorn]

Idgaf what it is but its too bright for my terrible eyes

Whispyr you should become the guide writer for the new dh spec

[balmy condor]

Yeah, you hear that, Mr icyveins world of warcraft division head @marble hemlock? your page is too bright and colorful

Where’s that deadpan grayscale that Germany is known for

[thorn thorn]

L + ratio

[knotty vapor]

i speak only the truth

[humble verge]

idk, like 6/8 is ~500k for 1,5h max

[thorn thorn]

Honestly no cappy

Depending on who the wowhead writer is I go to IV

[knotty vapor]

only time i used IV was for fury warr

[thorn thorn]

Or ask around

[knotty vapor]

cuz whoever was doing the wowhead guide for that just decided they weren't gonna update it for like2 full patches

[thorn thorn]

I think fury is archi

Yea it is

[knotty vapor]

this was a few years ago and I since returned

[hearty coral]

What IV stands for?

[thorn thorn]

Icy Veins

[knotty vapor]

icy veins

[hearty coral]

Ohh right

[thorn thorn]

Like the spell that is about to not exist

[knotty vapor]

The Other Guys™

[hearty coral]

I find icy veins more deep and well made than wowhead, what you think?

[knotty vapor]

they gonna have to rename themselves to frostbolt, since it's the only spell left

[coral ibex]

oh ur boostin mythic

makes sense

[hearty coral]

I usually read icy, wowhead and method guides so i have more to read and compare

[coral ibex]

i should sign up for those

[humble verge]

well, that gold was just legacy content and glorys

[knotty vapor]

my guild wants to boost first 3 just for trinket drop and vault slots

[humble verge]

i got paid like 1m doing omega glory

[knotty vapor]

idk how much that goes for

[humble verge]

and its like half an hour for 180k for ansurek/gallywix

[balmy condor]

This depends entirely on the class/spec

[humble verge]

icy veins prolly pays more for some specs or class

[thorn thorn]

I wont throw out any names

[humble verge]

who knows

[thorn thorn]

But lets just say

[balmy condor]

Like Seli writes the icyveins assa guide and the wowhead assa guide

[thorn thorn]

Some of the wowhead ones are extremely fried

[balmy condor]

But he will be the first to tell you that my guide on wowhead is way more in depth

[thorn thorn]

Like that Whispyr guy

[marble hemlock]

real and true

[thorn thorn]

Absolute piece of work lemme tell ya

[humble verge]

seliathan is just a shell of his former self

[marble hemlock]

real and true

[humble verge]

seliathan r1 legion

[thorn thorn]

Dont worry Sel

[knotty vapor]

numb to the reality

[marble hemlock]

takes a washed up has been to know one

[thorn thorn]

You are my favorite IV guide writer

[humble verge]

yea i was about to say

no wonder ure in <WashedUp>

[marble hemlock]

well teh guild is dead

but yes

[humble verge]

thats even worse

😭

[thorn thorn]

Are you retired from wow or something

[marble hemlock]

ye, ronkles killed it

[humble verge]

ronkles

[thorn thorn]

ronkles?

[knotty vapor]

speaking of guilds @balmy condor are u still with intent? I was looking at logs earlier and i swear it said somethign else

[humble verge]

thats close to

ronke

= masturbate

[marble hemlock]

@stuck knoll these people aint putting respect on your name

[main bridge]

aww i like that person's dog icon/banner

[humble verge]

mans name is masturbating wdym

[marble hemlock]

not really, but been taking a break this tier, and idk if ill return to raiding in midnight either. will see

once every decade i gotta take a raiding break ig, last one was in WoD

[humble verge]

wod being a decade ago

[stark matrix]

I thought antenna was bait on dimmy

so why tf is everyone running it

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-aware-twitch-forsen-emote-gif-25354609

[hearty coral]

For those of you Who played legion how was our dps profile back then?

[humble verge]

time flies so fast

[knotty vapor]

the worst in the game

by a lot

[humble verge]

its been so long i dont even remember

[knotty vapor]

at least during tos

idk if it got better

started out fine in emerald nightmare

[humble verge]

i think i used to play outlaw whole of Legion

because it wasnt as ASS as it is now

[hearty coral]

Why? I renember see assa on top 3 dps on raid and m+

[knotty vapor]

sorry my memories are all from tos