assassination

[buoyant herald]

yeah mine pushed me towards vers around 45% crit

[royal lantern]

tbf, is also because the neck is used before was vers/crit

so i lost a bunch of vers

but sim told me to make it mastery/crit

and i follow the smart robot 🫡

[real pike]

You press the next envenom before the coin in the animation reaches you

Or something or other

[buoyant herald]

ahhhh yeah ok that makes sense, i forgot that the coin technically has a travel time

[haughty flicker]

That's why delaying your global slightly makes it less likely to happen yeah

[coral ibex]

im close, i still need to do 8 12's for crests

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cxfRZ5EUsE5C7yFN8DYvF2

[haughty flicker]

But considering the alternative is just the normal way you play anyway I wouldn't call it a way to make it more likely

Its just the default

[pastel roost]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[ancient ingot]

guys how can i make in detalis board with pressed buttons? someone saying its from details

[coral ibex]

broadcaster tools > action tracker

[golden loom]

Pugged 6/8 and got my soul hunters kill on rogue today 🔥

Fully geared now

Got sniped by the team as 2nd intermission ended so it was a grey log but we take those

[vital pond]

There must be something that im doing wrong in my m+ rotation cant be real that im doing 1 mill or 2 mill less than allmost everybody else can someone please point out mistakes i and wow analyzer dont see ? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XVyBh3cAkpDRZg4Q?fight=3&type=damage-done&source=1

[coral ibex]

you are missing ct uptime

it should always be your top damage as bleed build

[vital pond]

But im allmost sure that i press CT allways when it runs out

[coral ibex]

probably low shiv use too

[vital pond]

Or should i “pandemic” ct ?

[balmy condor]

ct pandemics

[keen spruce]

It pandemics ye

[vital pond]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vRcA7xbG8dNtBmQZ?fight=4&type=damage-done

And in raid ?

[balmy condor]

wdym in raid

[vital pond]

I have similar casts to other rogues

But do less damage

[balmy condor]

I mean

yeh shivs look awful

[vital pond]

Im just a guy pressing buttons

[balmy condor]

are you hitting the plexus adds?

why are there 4 ruptures in a row

[vital pond]

Wtf

[balmy condor]

naja.....

I mean

"similar" casts

[vital pond]

Are the adds in this room right now ?

[balmy condor]

but these shivs are actually shit

and you're just afk on adds

pressing rupture

instead of hitting the boss

there's a big gap in your cold blood let me see what's up with that

[vital pond]

I mean

[balmy condor]

that's kinda ??

[vital pond]

Its not worth at all

To pad adds on plexus ?

[balmy condor]

no lmao

this isn't pad

this is 15 wasted cp

[vital pond]

So if i understand correctly in most cases in raid even on aoe its just better to use envenom instead of rupture on everything

[balmy condor]

100%

rupture is for energy, not damage

[vital pond]

So 1cp rupture to random add on fight like soulbinder is ok

[balmy condor]

homie what

[vital pond]

But using full cp ruptures on adds sucks

[balmy condor]

1cp?

[vital pond]

[balmy condor]

press 1cp rupture to instant get back 80% of the cost of the rupture, do zero damage

and also not flip a coin

big

[vital pond]

Xd

Fuck my life

Might use 1 cp rupture between my eyes

[balmy condor]

you're actually just inventing min-maxes that don't exist

[vital pond]

So you dont have to put trough with this shit

[balmy condor]

the spec is much easier

than you think it is

you just gotta not gigacook random shit

and then like

shiv during cds

instead of in the middle of nowhere

but yeh idk, the total damage you dealt on plexus adds

in both intermissions combined

is equal to around 3 envenoms

so you cast 4 ruptures, 2 garrotes, 2 mutilates, auto'd it a couple times, procced a netherprism hit, all your poisons

for grand total of 3 envenoms worth of damage

garroting adds is crazy too lowkey

you got uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[reef shuttle]

Are we starting a shame wall?

[balmy condor]

hold on

[keen spruce]

#assassination message

[balmy condor]

4 seconds of garrote uptime on the adds

[vital pond]

[balmy condor]

[keen spruce]

Wait I can’t copy the picture on mobile

[red schooner]

i got you

[balmy condor]

okay now the cold blood thing

what the hell happened there

ja..... no kingsbane for a minute and a half

that would make sense

[keen spruce]

Ty king

[vital pond]

I have it macroed to my kingsbane but dont know why one went off and second one didnt

[balmy condor]

your cold blood is going off fine

[nimble tartan]

6…7…

[balmy condor]

you just delayed cds for a looooooong time

yeh kb comes up and then 10 seconds later the pushback happens

so you held

and then you hit the adds instead of going to boss

so you held

and then like 30 seconds later you actually end up deciding to do damage again

and by the time that happens, the damage is done

and you just missed a full cast

[west crown]

I mean the fight is impossible to pad with any competent group until the end of the fight where you have 3 packs of adds and then the continuous spawns

[balmy condor]

there's continuous add spawns on plexus sentinel?

that's some crazy enrage

I thought you just ran out of space

but I'm never been that far in the fight to find out

[golden loom]

Are you talking about araz?

[balmy condor]

that doesn't make sense

[cyan igloo]

Hey new rogue here, im trying to play the spec and the dmg i do doesnt match my sim on ST?

[balmy condor]

they removed p3 adds from ranking

[golden loom]

Plexus enrage is just more walls

🤷‍♂️

[west crown]

I am indeed stupid*

[vital pond]

Anyway thank you a ton

[balmy condor]

you got it

small mistakes

[vital pond]

Happy little accidents

Im just walking atrophic poison for my group anyways but would like to do at least somewhat decent damage in the process

[pastel vault]

anyone know if the tier is (still?) bugged in pvp? Some is telling me it procs 1x per game max

and it's reduced to 10/5 instead of 30/15 I guess this is why no one plays 4set

[main bridge]

#pvp

[humble verge]

bought a boost for my 4th rogue

[misty holly]

Is it worth using an amber gem to get all 5 color bonuses?

[royal lantern]

you mean for the blasphemite gem crit dmg bonus?

[misty holly]

yes

[royal lantern]

thats included in sims allready

answer is No most of the time tbh, didnt saw a single sim yet where it was a gain to mix up gems instead of just grabbing the ones where the stats benefit you the most

but yeha, just sim it

[balmy condor]

amber is really bad, ye

[thorn thorn]

4th

[thorn thorn]

Bro

Just play a different class at that point

[balmy condor]

one rogue for each spec

[honest needle]

besides saving my wtf and interface folder is there any other folders i need to save for elv ui and weakauras or are those the only folders i need. I got a new pc so i lost everything

i dont wanna resetup my whole ui so im trying to figure out what folders i need to copy to a flash drive

for my ui and weakauras and everything

[marsh fjord]

Quick google search

[humble verge]

i got 4p

gamer ready for 20 keys

[thorn thorn]

4th rogue spec confirmed

[humble verge]

time to level boost a 5th rogue

[waxen oyster]

bought it a boost?

[humble verge]

yes

bought a boost for me and my friend who started gaming again

we did some keys, but i think i could just give him a headstart since i got gold

[waxen oyster]

antenna but no prism

unlucky

[humble verge]

yea..

didnt drop

i got the neck by asking nicely

[royal lantern]

hey mate

just wanna say really quick, the guys in white coats are your friends

[silent drift]

uhhh with fatebound, how do i send shivs during kb only windows?

[humble verge]

at around 8 seconds

[silent drift]

just last 8 secs?

ahhh

kk

[humble verge]

is what i usually do

[humble verge]

man, i spent more time applying for guilds than i have for jobs

[static glacier]

What happened to your last one, chief?

[pliant remnant]

They don't deserve his magnificence

[proven cliff]

Dungeon Slice is the best way to sim Mut Rogue? Is that solely for keys or does this apply also to raid bosses?

[static glacier]

keys

[marsh fjord]

I never heard someone calling assa rogue a mut rogue

[main bridge]

i'm a hemo rogue

[marsh fjord]

You're a DK player

[main bridge]

true

feels good man

it's so much better

[marsh fjord]

Im also man 😄

I see you talking sometimes in the midnight channels there

[main bridge]

hope DK is good in midnight too

[humble verge]

league of legends happened

[royal lantern]

sooooo

anyone else has to select the server everytime they start the game

[main bridge]

no

your shit is cooked

[royal lantern]

f

[humble verge]

its been happening a lot lately

[pastel roost]

I also had to last 3 times I logged on. Not sure what's going on this time yet

[fallow canopy]

yea

[pliant remnant]

Yep

[proven cliff]

Old school term, Mut = Mutilate

[marsh fjord]

I know what mut means 😄

[proven cliff]

I hope so if you play Rogue!

[waxen oyster]

why would you sim dslice on a boss

[marsh fjord]

dslice these nuts

[humble verge]

im surprised you didnt even react to my comment

[waxen oyster]

tbf i only sim patchwerk because who tf cares about dslice

[marsh fjord]

I sim 10 bosses on single target

so i can be disssapointed when i actually go to the boss

[waxen oyster]

lmfao

[waxen oyster]

i saw someone trying to play sub in a pug

replaced a 730 soleah with a heroic forge

ahahaha

bro didnt even have prism

[marsh fjord]

rip

that guy def sims 10 bosses

[waxen oyster]

its wild how much people jerk off bis lists

without context

[marsh fjord]

bis list are like your mother in law. you dont want to go there but you have to otherwise your girlfriend/wife gets mad

[waxen oyster]

i mean you dont have to

[stuck marsh]

for assassination, in Mythic aoe, how many garrotes and ruptures are you guys puttin up? are you tab targeting? my aoe is alittle low

[marsh fjord]

Hard to say it really depends on the situation.

5 ruptures atleast.

[main bridge]

about tree fiddy

[balmy condor]

5 ruptures, stealth garrotes on everything, regular garrote only on your main target

[stuck marsh]

Ah, thank you.

[balmy condor]

if there's a bunch of crud in the pack that'll die or whatever, maybe an extra rupture or two

[static glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-i'm-dead-lol-laughing-lmao-gif-7585881974681125832

my comment just like your mental after league

[thorn thorn]

Thats his mental during boosts too

[coral ibex]

i love the first pulls of gambit

spread 2 rupture casts

CT, envenom 2x

wow i only have 1 target with rupture

ive started tab targeting onto non-shitters for the 2nd rupture

[oak tangle]

🦗

[thorn thorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/373624398231371788/1082007204653174784/cats.gif

[static glacier]

I leave for 6 hours and come back to this…

[golden loom]

I love doing it on a 12 or something and by the time I press deathmark on the sea giant dude he just goes kaboom

[knotty vapor]

so what's the strat for using forge trinket with fatebound

do we just macro to deathmark and get it every other press?

or is there some strat

[buoyant herald]

macro to vanish

use vanish as a 3m cd with every second DM

oh forge not prism

duh

[knotty vapor]

lol

[buoyant herald]

surely you have a better option than forge?

although

[knotty vapor]

I don't even have forge lol, I'm just curious

[buoyant herald]

but why you'd never do that

but if you did

you'd probably do what i said anyway

[knotty vapor]

well, that's essentially the same as just macroing to deathmark anyways

[buoyant herald]

true

[knotty vapor]

honestly I don't want it, I like prism, but if it falls in my lap and sims higher...

[shell kraken]

With Prism in m+, we use it as a 2min CD with DM?

[buoyant herald]

i can't even imagine a world where mythic forge would sim better for FB then even like a champ prism

[knotty vapor]

cuz mine's heroic

[buoyant herald]

you're diluting so much of it's power

[knotty vapor]

I feel it might beat a 717 prism at 730 but iunno

[buoyant herald]

i mean you can sim for that now

i know where i'd put my money though

[knotty vapor]

let's see

unsurprising, but a relief nontheless

[buoyant herald]

you don't have access to a mythic lily?

thats possibly better than 717 prism

probably even

[knotty vapor]

it's in my bags actually

wait

[static glacier]

So why are you considering forge

[knotty vapor]

no it's heroic nvm

[static glacier]

Anyways you’d just use it every 2nd dm with vanish

[knotty vapor]

yes that was established 10 mins ago

[static glacier]

Alright

Can’t you use dinars to get a myth prism or lily?

[knotty vapor]

we only had an hour after downing forge on wed

didnt manage to kill frac

but I could get a lily

[static glacier]

Just wait

[knotty vapor]

would rather save for prism tho

yeah

[static glacier]

Frac should fall over if you guys have weak auras

[knotty vapor]

yeah we had multiple sub 1% wipes

very sadge

[buoyant herald]

oof

just wait another week and get your prism for sure

[knotty vapor]

SURELY

[buoyant herald]

or

if you're really skilled

get it to drop and win it natty

drop your dinar on antenna instead

[knotty vapor]

I'll just beg in my loot council note when it drops (100% win rate)

hit em with the pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease

[static glacier]

You guys start raiding late in the tier?

[knotty vapor]

I think they did yeah

I switched guilds cuz mine fell apart like 4 weeks in

had to find someone else to prog with lol

[static glacier]

RIP

[knotty vapor]

they still on heroic saladbar

only 10 people showing up to raid and they pug the rest

had to bail on that ship

[buoyant herald]

😬

[knotty vapor]

they quit over 1button existing lol

[buoyant herald]

sounds insufferable

[knotty vapor]

they were super fucking fun to play with tbh

then randomly went full moron over this one feature existing

so w/e fuck em

[buoyant herald]

ive been in guilds like that to be fair

had a GM who used to quit the game over the changes every season then slink back in

every time

[knotty vapor]

sadly ours stuck to his guns

never came back

now he just plays apex and league with the other half of the team he took with him

lol

[buoyant herald]

idk i just can't stand those types who perenially complain about the game, such a downbuzz

[old thistle]

if you rage over the 1button rotation you have other problems

[buoyant herald]

yeah, like being on the brink of being caught out as being worse than a 1 button user

[knotty vapor]

tbh I think they were just burnt out and were looking for an excuse to quit. GM genuinely quit over that, but the rest of them used him quitting as their excuse to bail too

one of those guilds that's had aotc or ce every season since like wrath

[royal lantern]

"still on heroic"->quits over 1 button existing

like sure, i dont wanna shittalk people that cap on heroic

but man, you should look at yourself for a second in a situation like that

[grim jay]

probably mostly people that think they are the goats for getting curve

and are insanely skilled at their class

feeling threatened by the 1 button rotation, because people that use it do the same as they do, because they actually arent remotely skilled on their class

[oak tangle]

nah, i think at all skill levels having an issue with the one button macro is borderline psychotic

we play games to have fun, if one button is fun for someone, let them use it, but on average it won't be fun, it would be mind numbing for most of the population

who's out here getting mad at buildings for having wheelchair ramps. everyone can take them instead of stairs, not everyone needs them, some do

but if you're in a hurry the stairs gonna be faster

[real pike]

Not if you have wheels for feet

[wheat yacht]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1PAD2hwXQjrLMyv8?fight=10&type=damage-done&source=75 can someone help me with these logs please, I'm just not getting it - uptime good, dps terrible please send a grown up

[fallen wasp]

i need a tiny bit of help with understanding sanguine blades. am i supposed to pool energy to benefit the most from this? because i notice when im just going through rotations that i am rarely above 50% of max energy and rarely really benefit from it. (bleed build)

[real pike]

No just forget it exists and let it do its thing

Although with bleed build you should be above 50% energy except on solo bosses

[fallen wasp]

hmm i feel like i have to spend good amounts of energy when needing to reapply ruptures and garrotes

[primal oasis]

I don't get why blizz added the one button rotation (completely fine) and then also proceeds to make almost every spec in the game braindead in midnight

Like bad players can just use the one button rotation why further dumb down specs for them

[real pike]

If you have 5 ruptures up you should never be running out of energy

Don't bother with gar reapplication except on main target

Wait

[analog field]

this is soulbinder

xd

[real pike]

Ye

[analog field]

araz is just shit coz you are compared with people padding last phase

[real pike]

No one saw those

[oak tangle]

you don't cast netherprism until 4:48, you have wonky shiv usages, and a couple times you just got almost 10s without doing anything.

you waste quite a few cp on overcapping.

there is also potential to wait for add timings for your bursts

[real pike]

You can game a little bit on Araz by pooling into add sets and slamming envenoms with caustic

[wheat yacht]

Thanks ❤️

[analog field]

but for guilds not having it on reclear

[wheat yacht]

ty ❤️

[real pike]

Make sure to throw ruptures out when adds are near you in intermission

[analog field]

where you focs echo

you lose dmg by default

[oak tangle]

and your execute is in shambles

[wheat yacht]

ouch, yeah ok that's a disaster

[real pike]

I feel like you get some dmg back on echo from the execute but I've always wondered exactly what the overall loss is

[oak tangle]

it's because current sin is impossible to implement in the one button

[analog field]

but you have to leave echo on execute

to cast KB on boss

if you cast CD's at start

we were killing echo around 50 sec in so i had to go to boss when echo was around 15%

[real pike]

You should wait until ~20 secs in to the fight to do your opening CD sequence

[analog field]

yeah it is not clear

Whisp was sending in opener

and also like 1/3 of lorrgs approx

because if you send on adds and then swap to echo what is the point ?

[real pike]

What

[analog field]

i was hard swapping on echo

we had to

[real pike]

You can send on adds and not swap to echo

[analog field]

yeah but we did

that was the strat

and cba trying to persuade people to not swap

especially in progress

imagine i would even KB pylons

on first tries i even DM'ed

[real pike]

I forget what time the echo comes up but I think I remember comfortably finishing CDs on boss then switching to echo

[analog field]

echo is like 5 sec after adds no ?

[real pike]

And ye you should send CDs on pylon they come back up for the amp

[analog field]

maybe 10 ?

[analog field]

depends on how fast you kill pylons there were times i didn't even have kb

[real pike]

Ye and you should be in the second half of your CDs for the adds

[real pike]

On prog?

[analog field]

depends, if all 45/1:30 send on pylons then yeah

also when i used DM pylon died so quickly that it was like 20% earlier than the other 2

[real pike]

Maybe this was after some nerfs or raidbuff or something but I don't remember it being anything like that

[analog field]

Maybe someone else used cd also not saying DM did 10000% dmg

[real pike]

Yeah DM wasn't up naturally for the pylon from what I remember

[analog field]

but it was an issue of coordinating CD's etc

also if you speed up opening you get a KB just before intermission so some extra dmg on boss

[real pike]

Yeah but then you either waste or hold during pylon?

[analog field]

yeah but like 8-10 sec of KB with a shiv is not that wasted

but now with last phase adds not counting for parses the numbers will be lower especially for progging guilds

[real pike]

Surely a change like this would be a new phase of parses?

Or is it just that the boss dies too quick

[analog field]

it is but yeah you lose execute dmg as this phase doesn't last as long

[real pike]

I would have thought the less time in execute phase the less time you spend in non execute too

But honestly we've been extending a while my memory is hazy

So I'm no expert on the boss

[analog field]

maybe it is correct now to go for CD's on adds

although they die ultra fast

not sure either

[humble verge]

poomping my friends

dont think ive ever seen myself doing 7m in a street

actually learning my friends who never has used any sort of addons to actually get plater and use Norsken m+ WA

[sharp viper]

he'll be happy to learn that stuff just to see it be gone in half a year

[humble verge]

"IM NEVER GONNA PLAY RANGED AGAIN" getting hit by first boss frontal

also

he cant seem to be able to see the line ability from the mobs

[real pike]

Regular bleed build?

[humble verge]

yes

but i am 729, so keep that in mind

[real pike]

That is quite high

Also nice when your teammates do no damage

What key level

[humble verge]

a 10

[real pike]

Ic

What affix is this week

[humble verge]

mob

[latent kernel]

are most top sin rogues running night elf in mythic + for the shadowmeld restealth or is that not that impactful

[humble verge]

its impactful

if you can get it to work

sometimes it wont let you restealth

[latent kernel]

is it better or worse than maghar bc i saw most top dps sims run with maghar race

[humble verge]

yes

maghar is the best dps

dwarf has an extra "cloak"

nelf is a "free" vanish

[latent kernel]

so its really just a preference thing?

[humble verge]

well, id say so

i have one of each, well not dwarf

[latent kernel]

what do you play for m+

[storm forum]

I'm a NElf cause I have a gambling addiction

[humble verge]

i still use my trusty old orc

but i have a human and nelf as well

[jolly stirrup]

I'm a panda. Because pandas are awesome

[wary abyss]

I'm a Lightforged because of gold/black aesthetic. 💅

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/notes-note-take-notes-daffy-notes-daffy-note-gif-7089549869873009522

[latent kernel]

this is hard i cant lie

[wary abyss]

❤️ Thank you!

[wary abyss]

I popped this into the transmog channel, but I figured you'd like to see this one, too! c:

[humble verge]

damn

im surprised im actually seeing guilds without any rogues

but bruh

this guild's app is basically like a job application

😭

having to add my email

[wary abyss]

I hate that. LOL.

[humble verge]

thats why i made a 2nd mail just for this stuff lol

[pliant remnant]

Damn Uberscot applying to guilds?

[dawn seal]

I know the answer is probably sim but

do I use loom ithar trinket if I have really alot crit

[humble verge]

it doesnt matter

[dawn seal]

[humble verge]

just use it

[humble verge]

6th guild applied to

[runic hinge]

He doesn’t want to do 20 hours of unpaid ot in one day on not even the last boss

[sharp viper]

tell him to check if projected textures is on, maybe he has it turned off and cant see ground markers - that's playing the game on hard mode

[runic hinge]

get that bag

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-more-time-gif-4816107

[fallen charm]

The only case you lose dps is if you have 100% crit(very unlikely) but on-use stats of trinkets and procs don't get affected by the soft caps of secondary stats

[split veldt]

can someone tell me why these trinkets are simming so much higher? O.o

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hihFD9bZeUibkjSuM4b2en

[analog field]

dslice lily not good

[dawn seal]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dem5jL1Fy8fpBHSPzRa3uX this is ma sim

I have a 2nd myth dagger should I sim if its better to equip intsead of crafted one

[marsh fjord]

i can tell you already it isnt better

[dawn seal]

this is a drop tomizer

oh I am stupid

but it doesnt account the fact that I get another embelishment

[marsh fjord]

If you getg a second myth dagger you need to get other embelishment somewhere else

and that is bad

[dawn seal]

[marsh fjord]

because off-hand is the least impacted slot

together with wrist

[dawn seal]

ohh

oke

why I sim so low

[marsh fjord]

off-hand does basically nothing. your main hand only counts

[static glacier]

You can simply focusing lense

[marsh fjord]

because your 720

[static glacier]

Sim*

[dawn seal]

ohh

is it the second best option

I thought I should get the vers one

[static glacier]

Daenthread should be better

But the issue is the slots it can be on

[dawn seal]

but I have so much crit

[static glacier]

Dawn or dusk

[dawn seal]

I have heroic belt ._.

[static glacier]

Sim both

Either way embellishes don’t fucking matter

Just run 2

[dawn seal]

oke

[static glacier]

Barely matters

[dawn seal]

I go do sim thing

[static glacier]

Which specific ones you do

[dawn seal]

is it troll to play coinflipper in the soul hunters

[golden loom]

nah its fine

I played it yesterday

(died as p2 intermission ended with all my cds up ready to blast tho)

[dawn seal]

do I just perma

send in there

do I try to dot other stuff or just s t

if I be coin flippa

[golden loom]

keep rupture up on the other 2 for sure for energy

[dawn seal]

do I care keepin garrote on all 3

[golden loom]

nah

[dawn seal]

u dont go crimson tempest

right

[golden loom]

just garrote on whatever target you are on

[dawn seal]

for coin flippa

[golden loom]

not on fatebound no

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/q5229HJC384SbbAQG37MJY fully geared now

[pliant remnant]

I have like 120 or something crests to go

[severe meadow]

I’m still 722 and no crests

[coral ibex]

i have 65k to gain by recrafting my offhand and wrist https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oDaePgDvKgmMm7wVEjfpDF

[limpid quest]

anyuone know why I can not fly at the gilding landing I just started campaigh and I do have dragon flying and changed to it from mount gui

[humble verge]

where is gilding landingg

[limpid quest]

says something about war within pathfinder needed

[humble verge]

can u send a pic where u at

[limpid quest]

Tazevesh

[humble verge]

🤨

which one

hm idk

out of luck ig

[limpid quest]

keep trouble shooting tx though

need to finish exploring ilse of dorn and questline

[golden loom]

done with warrior and rogue now, time to grind out dh/dk by weeks end and never touch m+ again

[brisk forge]

why is DM desync 2 min trinkets now? :S my araz is desync with like 12 sec :S Bleed build m+

[golden loom]

doing below 12s?

if so, probably the affix dude

[brisk forge]

yeah 10s for glided

[golden loom]

that you kill and he gives CDR

[brisk forge]

oh right.. didnt think about that

[humble verge]

wattafakk

im #2 for ilvl

[brisk forge]

i dont no low keys normally 😛

[humble verge]

maybe cause i updated it lol

[golden loom]

or maybe cause of the (lfg), wowprog trying to help a homie out!

[humble verge]

nej

now i also made u #2 @golden loom

[golden loom]

wat da helly

[humble verge]

well

youre in contention for #2 with like 20+

and me

eksde

[golden loom]

whats going on here

[humble verge]

lemix

its scuffed

[golden loom]

[humble verge]

idk why they would track them

but meh

i guess wowprog just tracks anything active on armory

what the helly is this

[golden loom]

pugged soul hunters yesterday

got assassinated at the end of p2 intermission and died with all cds up

[humble verge]

lucky bitch with that r1 in 11.2

[golden loom]

cause I took elusivness instead of cheat death

[humble verge]

lmao

i have a pre-made soulhunter tree

its just bleed, but ive changed to cheat and athropic

[golden loom]

played fatebound

[humble verge]

im surprised me going almost 9m not even being a 95

[golden loom]

very based tho, 3 shot the boss in a pug

[humble verge]

lol

[golden loom]

4 heal, no voicecomms, ffa dispells

[humble verge]

yeah, i literally boosted like 4 clients on soulhunters yesterday on my alt xd

[humble verge]

bruh lol

[golden loom]

took like 4ish hours for 6/8

90 min to form the group

[heavy moss]

hey guys for a returing rogue whats the best trinkets to get now for mythic plus with the carterl chips

[humble verge]

took us 1h40 to boost

😭

[golden loom]

what content have you done? any mythic bosses?

[heavy moss]

nothing i just got this week back

[heavy moss]

i want to focus on mythic plus mostly, no time for mythic raid

[humble verge]

you said 4h for 6/8

[golden loom]

yeah was a bit less I guess

[humble verge]

lol

[golden loom]

that + 90min

[humble verge]

"bit" less

[golden loom]

I took the group forming into account

[humble verge]

you basically spet the same time

[pliant remnant]

Probs like Signet + Pacemaker

[humble verge]

that we used to boost lol

[analog field]

take heroic netherprism

[golden loom]

wanna know something even better? I was clocked into work during the whole thing

[humble verge]

nvm, ig we spent 1h20

[pliant remnant]

But what if he literally doesn't want to step into raid

[humble verge]

my goat

wait

bruh

but why did u do it tho

is your guild not gonna kill NK or

[golden loom]

we killed NK

but im playing warrior

[humble verge]

ohok

[heavy moss]

ty all for info

[humble verge]

oh.

[golden loom]

was away on prog kill for soul hunters aswell

so getting it done in a pug was big

[humble verge]

juge

[golden loom]

but yeah im playing warrior for nk/dimmy

[humble verge]

you dont exist to me anymore

[golden loom]

would you want to play rogue without battleshout?

[humble verge]

no, we had 2 warriors*

i meant

sorry

[golden loom]

could also have been on DK duty

and had prot warrior

[humble verge]

did you guys lose a warrior or smth

[coral ibex]

only 2 warriors?

smh

we had 3

[humble verge]

didnt ask u

im kidding nooj

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[golden loom]

our main main warrior got banned and then we had a step in to cover but I also happened to have a fully geared warrior and I enjoy playing it so 🤷‍♂️

[humble verge]

perma or 2w

[coral ibex]

imagine not just immediately gearing the banned guy on an alt

smh

[humble verge]

smh

[golden loom]

hardware banned

or something

[coral ibex]

OH THAT GUY

[humble verge]

bruh

[coral ibex]

LMAOOOOOOOOOO

[humble verge]

for what

gold?

racism?

[golden loom]

blizzard wont say

[coral ibex]

[humble verge]

well

does he live in the EU

because he is ENTITLED to it

if he is

only the noob NA cant demand it

[golden loom]

wait thats smart

but yeah idk

couldve been on DK duty also and have the BDK play prot warrior instead

but my warrior is just better geared and I like it more so

dont really wanna swap

[humble verge]

[golden loom]

again

[humble verge]

tell him tho

to find some obscure

GDPR article

or paragraph

so that he can know what hes actually banned for

[coral ibex]

permed on all future accounts is crazy work

did he fuck ion's wife or something

[humble verge]

idk

u can escape hardware ban tho

[pliant remnant]

god damnit james

[ionic hill]

what is our worst stat? vers or haste

[humble verge]

just change your MAC

or get a new mobo

[golden loom]

#freebigdickjim

[coral ibex]

there's no worst stat

it will depend on the gear you have

[pliant remnant]

[humble verge]

im pretty sure you can also just reset your whole pc

[coral ibex]

all stats are good in combination for assa

[humble verge]

and still play the game after

[coral ibex]

we equip whatever the sim says is best

[ionic hill]

kinda curious if haste would help me with boss fights in M+

[coral ibex]

no

[humble verge]

https://github.com/How-to-bypass-HWID-Hardware-ban

[coral ibex]

haste will not affect energy in ST

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[coral ibex]

you'd need more haste than you could possibly ever have

for it to matter

[severe meadow]

No amount of haste would make it feel better

[pliant remnant]

No, but swapping to Sub will.

[ionic hill]

[severe meadow]

If you mean the energy regen

[pliant remnant]

[coral ibex]

like you'd need perma 100+% haste

if not more

[golden loom]

I did all my keys on sub this week

[ionic hill]

I have massive skill issues with Sub

[golden loom]

that spec is just way more fun in keys I swear

[pliant remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/milj-milk-skill-issue-spill-issue-spill-gif-25572474

[coral ibex]

there are hardly any bosses that are forced pure ST in m+

[severe meadow]

Have tank pulls stuff into boss

[coral ibex]

just pull mobs onto the boss

[severe meadow]

Is the only answer

[humble verge]

skissue

[golden loom]

perma tricks makes me an idiot when I play other specs tho

[coral ibex]

you will literally go infinite with some funnel

[pliant remnant]

Perma tricks is so nice

[coral ibex]

have you ever had hooktail at 30% on a 12 after lust

[pliant remnant]

Tank dies, no CR up, no problem; mobs'll just fuckin' book it to spawn

[coral ibex]

because you pulled the last pack onto him

[golden loom]

yeah then I play DH and send eye beam as my tank is gathering and I get 1 shot

cause I forgor

[ionic hill]

is it normal to be 3rd dps with frost dk and bm hunter in overall damage or am I just garbonzo

[humble verge]

i have ctrl3 on my mind

[pliant remnant]

If they're good, 'course

[royal lantern]

2 of the broken specs of the patch

sooooooooooooooooooo...................

[ionic hill]

fair

[royal lantern]

take a gues

[ionic hill]

ty Tryan for restoring my faith

[runic hinge]

broken or just tuned well

[coral ibex]

broken

you can't tell me black arrow BM is "tuned well"

[golden loom]

every time I do priory I wish I was on dk

so I could grip in sharpshooters

also every halls for houndmasters

[severe meadow]

Just simply do more damage than the DK

[ionic hill]

pog

time to stalk ur build in raider io

[golden loom]

or have the FDK be 645 ilvl

[humble verge]

youre not me

[severe meadow]

Don’t do that (also not my actual name in game)

[humble verge]

[severe meadow]

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-thank-you-sweet-dreams-happy-birthday-woman-lachen-gif-11074463367286076865

[golden loom]

if you are reading this bigboy, you are my goat

[severe meadow]

Lower than the healer is crazy work tho

[golden loom]

he was dead on every pull every boss cause he got 1 shot by air

[severe meadow]

That’s fair

[coral ibex]

POV: you are me rebuilding on an alt after a ban

[severe meadow]

Stam checked

[golden loom]

was a 12 floodgate

[ionic hill]

sounds like torture lmao

[golden loom]

nah +2'd it

and he got a pacemaker ofc

[dawn seal]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jLa4nV8F1phrd6D9?fight=26&type=damage-done&source=661

what am I doing wrong

I am so bad

😭 help

[golden loom]

never rupture with coldblood still up

always envenom

twice

[dawn seal]

what if its running out

[coral ibex]

let it run out

[dawn seal]

ohh

oke oke

[severe meadow]

Envenom

[coral ibex]

do not press rupture with cold blood

ever

[golden loom]

also should not really ever happen

like most of the time its in pandemic before cds so you refresh

-> cds

[royal lantern]

CB only gets consumed by envenom

soooooo

whats the big deal, why are you so dramatic abot that lol

ye ofc, still a mistake, but its not a gigantic problem tbh

[dawn seal]

[coral ibex]

because rupture can break your coin chain

[dawn seal]

we lusted at pull

so I send cds on pull

[royal lantern]

lmao just flip better

[dawn seal]

does that affect anythin

[coral ibex]

no

you dont care about lust

[dawn seal]

[golden loom]

cause the coldblooded flips are edge case so u keep it goin

[royal lantern]

just saw its also DM

thought it was a kb only CB

[dawn seal]

[royal lantern]

phone makes the pic a bit too small

[golden loom]

you also seem to have missed a KB cast, should be able to get one before you go into first intermission

[dawn seal]

oh

interesting

for some reaosn my kbs

never get to 50

stacks

it runs out when it reaches there

[royal lantern]

do you have envenom up

[dawn seal]

I think so

[royal lantern]

thats literally all there is too kingsbane really

have envenom running for its full duration

[dawn seal]

I dont think I have double up

double envneom up all the time

for it

[royal lantern]

double doesnt matter, just 1

[dawn seal]

[royal lantern]

but you want 100% envenom uptime

[coral ibex]

you also build 2 envenoms before your opener which is not really necessary

[coral ibex]

just a bit of a delay

[dawn seal]

wait what

[golden loom]

wait nevermind, you got the KB off that I was talking about, ignore my comment @dawn seal

[dawn seal]

oh

yeah

I saw someone use it then when they lusted on pull I am stupid so u never care when u lust

should I have hold cds for first adds

[golden loom]

no

send on cd

[dawn seal]

oh okey

[golden loom]

cause thats how you get that final KB

but also adds should explode so u cant really pad 1 way or another

[royal lantern]

i played ST focused on araz 2months ago

[dawn seal]

oh shit

its a 72

on boss damage

pog

[royal lantern]

at this point, the adds shold evaporate before they spawn

[dawn seal]

I need more ilvl and not a champion trinket I think

._.

[golden loom]

yeah I mean ur 719 ilvl so stuffs fine

[ionic hill]

I still have champ track interlopers

[severe meadow]

Are those the boots

[royal lantern]

because you ARE a champ in our hearts

[ionic hill]

omg I love u

[ionic hill]

yeah

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/grMUZ3JmP6ZNftRTLYoy2T

[severe meadow]

Normal to mythic for those was only a .5% for me

[dawn seal]

[severe meadow]

I just got mythic with dinars since they never drop

[ionic hill]

somehow sims higher than a 720 boots so I'm keeping them

[severe meadow]

Well yeah, the effect on them

For your wraps

[royal lantern]

its like always the same

ofc they are a upgrade, but some people really overestimate how much of a upgrade they actually are

[ionic hill]

are you guys rocking antenna + prism or antenna + forge

[severe meadow]

I think just getting the effect on general is really good

The small upgrade after is whatever

[golden loom]

its more that its impossible to replace hero track SH boots with myth track boots pretty much

[coral ibex]

prism

forge is useless on fb

[ionic hill]

for m+

[coral ibex]

prism

[royal lantern]

using antenna prism the entire tier

[severe meadow]

Prism is just good, yeah

[royal lantern]

prism is just big with how free you are in its usage

[ionic hill]

prism gang it is then

[severe meadow]

In big packs I shoot up to 30m+ with prism ripping

[ionic hill]

friendship with forge over

[golden loom]

for me 704 SH boots -> 730 catalyzed boots was 0.4% dam on rogue
on my warrior 717 heroic sh boots -> 730 myth boots are -0.4%

[severe meadow]

Idk what to rip dinars on now

Maybe king neck

[ionic hill]

omg your gear is insane uwucute

just saw ur post above

[golden loom]

just get lucky

[ionic hill]

I had to give a mage on his 54th alt 200k gold to trade prism

[golden loom]

but yeah comparing the champ track boots to normal myth boots / SH boots is kinda big

[pliant remnant]

I had people asking 500k for HC Prism on my alt last week

[royal lantern]

i have literally nothing for them the entire time

[pliant remnant]

like cute bro I'll wait a couple days and just buy Myth

[royal lantern]

not even tmog is avaible

pure dispair

[ionic hill]

cant relate imagine trinkets actually rolling higher than 15

[royal lantern]

suffering from sucess

[severe meadow]

I used mine on mythic SH boots

Already had prism

[golden loom]

join the pacemaker gang for dimmy

[royal lantern]

i did a sim

[ionic hill]

is zac 4k yet

[royal lantern]

even with 40% miss rate, pacemaker is equal to antenna lol

so im just stay antenna

[golden loom]

wat da helly

[pliant remnant]

He is not 4k yet

Extremely washed up, unfortunately

[royal lantern]

i thought he was french tbh

[golden loom]

well if u ever play sub in m+ then double on use is big poggers

[pliant remnant]

[golden loom]

also lowkey just forge for DS

feels good

[ionic hill]

sub in m+ has me having seizures with those windows

mad respect to anyone who can play it

[golden loom]

u dont need to play it that much to get a hang of it tbh

[royal lantern]

sub is VERY static

like, extremely static

you learn the windows once

and thats kinda it

outside of the burst windows, sub has no gameplay anyway lol

[ionic hill]

idk even with bis gear I did horrible overall

back to my comfort zone

[pliant remnant]

Are you going apeshit with CDs while tank is still gathering 'cause of perma tricks privilege or summin

[ionic hill]

pretty sure I just do horrible sectec mistakes

also I swear assa aoe is better but might just be skill issue

[royal lantern]

assa has consistent good aoe in m+

[ionic hill]

yeah

[royal lantern]

sub is burst aoe in m+

[ionic hill]

I love it

[dawn seal]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[humble verge]

HUGE

I GOT A RESPONSE FROM MY APPLYING

and it was that guild with that obscure jobapplication form

[coral ibex]

im still a gearlet and im maxed

not even 729.63

what's the point

[fallow canopy]

Fake title smh not high rolling loot

[coral ibex]

[tawny geyser]

Too much crafted😁

[coral ibex]

ye but this is my only other myth neck and its worse at 730 than my crafted

[humble verge]

not even 8m

[severe meadow]

Washed up...

[tawny geyser]

For some reason, my current gear favours Verse a lot. Simmed many things, but Verse gear always sims highest and ofc Verse gems

[pliant remnant]

extreme skissue

[royal lantern]

probably becase you have 0 vers in your gear....?

[vestal wren]

what is your animated eel doing today?

[thorn thorn]

Keybrickerr

[humble verge]

i also noted that to my friend

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

[thorn thorn]

Did you also note the warlock

[humble verge]

hes my friend

if u havent realized

[royal lantern]

fake

[humble verge]

rogues dont have friends?

forgor

[thorn thorn]

Friends arent real dude you cant gaslight me

You just got pulled into a free boost

Unlucky

[humble verge]

yea

twice in a row

with the same warlock

[thorn thorn]

Bro had to carry 3 keys

Unreal

[odd creek]

When do we use prism in ST? Always only with deathmark or once with deathmark, then on no deathmark kingsbane, then on deathmark again and so on?

[royal lantern]

on deathstalker, macro with deathmark

on fatebound, macro with vanish

[waxen oyster]

you dont have bis though

[humble verge]

what am i looking at

[thorn thorn]

Shield block uptime

[humble verge]

nice

[waxen oyster]

why is it below 98%

[thorn thorn]

This was from a key I did with a pug prot warrior

[waxen oyster]

when

[thorn thorn]

Male night elf, because I know its relevant for you

It was a mists so..... S1 I think?

[waxen oyster]

special

especially since s1 prot was super ezmode

playing thane

[thorn thorn]

He died a lot

Not shown is the 20 times he pressed ignore pain

[waxen oyster]

I had a prot warrior in df s3 do that

he was like 20% uptime

[sharp viper]

Ngl that is pretty impressive

[waxen oyster]

wondered why he had zero threat

and flopping

[sharp viper]

Probably didn't have it kexbound and only used shield charge

[waxen oyster]

You have so much excess rage

as non colo pwar

its insane

[thorn thorn]

He used it once of his own free will

And it was on mistcaller when he failed the kick and tried to shield block the cast

[waxen oyster]

magic block?

[sharp viper]

Ahaha

[waxen oyster]

or reg

[thorn thorn]

Regular ass shield block

[waxen oyster]

oh didnt even pop spell block