#assassination

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royal lantern
buoyant herald
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Sure he does, it’s literally on camera

clever sparrow
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soulhunters sub or assa?

royal lantern
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delete fatebound

clever sparrow
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WTF

lyric vale
buoyant herald
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Congrats

humble verge
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P2.2 Dimensius

balmy condor
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Bro whispyrs video sucks, if he just read the wowhead guide the spec would make sense

humble verge
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new video

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since when

vestal granite
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-a new day
-LOGIN DUDE
-progress Dimensius for 5 hours

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(heroic mode)

humble verge
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lol

main bridge
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wtf

balmy condor
balmy condor
# humble verge since when

Couple days ago I did a sub video for beta where the whole point was that I didn’t do any research and tried to see if the spec was more intuitive and approachable

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A lot of people liked it

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A lot of people also told me that it makes perfect sense had I done research and read the guide

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Which was in fact

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Not the point

vestal granite
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I m kinda torn with current Sub like all the goals the spec needs to do is reached and fun to learn

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but playing it is so shit

balmy condor
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Yeah it’s unlucky

vestal granite
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god forbid you have half a second lag somewhere

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and why can combo points refill at the end of Coup, I already pressed a generator 1 second ago

ancient ingot
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guys can i get stacks prism before raid/mythic on dummy ?

earnest remnant
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no

ancient ingot
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i see how a lot of ppls hit dummy before key, just for fun?

ornate dawn
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I really enjoyed the sub vids

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specifically losing your shit at the complete insanity of it

thorn thorn
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Im so proud of you blusherbucket

haughty flicker
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The video went hard

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People missing the point of a video seeing how intuitive a spec is without research in an expansion who's main selling point is making specs more intuitive

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Does not go hard

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Well actually housing is the main selling point

coral ibex
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it doesn't make any sense that you only get 1 sectech in cds in midnight, but i guess you aren't also stacking flag

haughty flicker
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Whispyr housing video when

pliant remnant
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Hiya

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Whispyr here

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this is my crib

runic hinge
analog field
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How does the raid vault work? The loot table is from the bosses I killed the current week? Or all bosses I have historically killed?

balmy condor
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I'm gonna make a documentary video "how I got world first max housing rep"

balmy condor
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so hypothetically, if you buy a carry for fractilus

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your vault can drop soulhunter, araz, soulbinder, loomithar, etc

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everything except nexus king and dimmy

analog field
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Ok I wasn't sure about next weeks. So this week I killed first 4 but previous week I killed frac so I am eligible for prism right?

balmy condor
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doesn't matter what you kill this week, any historical kill matters

haughty flicker
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yes

analog field
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ty

thorn thorn
balmy condor
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usually I'm not big on cosmetics aside from like just setting something basic up

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I'm a fullset user

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but we'll see

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maybe it's cool idk

thorn thorn
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Collect every decoration

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Dont tell xiani you are a fullset user

balmy condor
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@waxen oyster I'm a fullset user

haughty flicker
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whispyr video series where he collects every housing decoration

thorn thorn
balmy condor
haughty flicker
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im already crying and i havent even started yet

thorn thorn
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Im crying playing legion remix

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Cuz im playing a MW

runic hinge
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@normal mist I’m a fullset user

normal mist
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new set

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yes im playing a troll

haughty flicker
waxen oyster
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its just not an obtainable one anymore

normal mist
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another one

waxen oyster
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felshatter illusion somehow the best illusion

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they've made in years

runic hinge
waxen oyster
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those daggers look better

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with ulduar set

normal mist
runic hinge
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Yeah I love that one

thorn thorn
runic hinge
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My first season playing rogue and first 1800 playing rogue

turbid lion
# normal mist

what addons do you use to see those sets in the appearance tab?

real pike
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bruh how is there not a single sin rogue dimmy kill pov on Youtube

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someone upload one abeg

normal mist
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im not using addons

turbid lion
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ok ty

normal mist
turbid lion
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better wardrobe was the problem

waxen oyster
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and uploading is work

shy creek
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With the nerf to adds across the board, assa rogue has risen in popularity

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Just wait a lil, dw

knotty vapor
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wow the cooldown manager is just not even remotely suitable as a replacement for tracking your personal combat stuff with weakaruas

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like 75% of the shit I want to see just isn't there

normal mist
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atm or in alpha?

knotty vapor
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just on retail

normal mist
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because they are worlds apart

knotty vapor
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can I track the dots on my target with bars similar to the buffs?

normal mist
knotty vapor
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thank god

thorn thorn
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On the alpha tracking dots is present but still incomplete

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It even has an option for tracking pandemic

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Which was a bit surprising to see

knotty vapor
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lol

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surprised pandemic surviving the class simplification tbh

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thats the exact sort of obtuse mechanic I'd expect to be removed

thorn thorn
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Especially since its mentioned so little in-game

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If at all

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Its very simple in how it works though so it is also equally unsurprising it survived

knotty vapor
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it's simple but never explained anywhere yeah

thorn thorn
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They gotta leave some skill expression left

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Like look at demo on the alpha rn

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the skill expression is timing implosions for doomguards to not waste damage

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...and thats all that survived thats notable

knotty vapor
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lol honestly I was kinda expecting most rogue stuff to survive simplification, seeing as this class in general is for sweatlords

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but I guess they just wanna change that

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pandemic is a universal thing with all dots though right?

balmy condor
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yes

brittle cloud
thorn thorn
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Yes

hollow stream
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

true tide
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On mythic dimmy if I don't have a DK on my side is it fine to shadow step to a say evoker whose canceling with rescue/wings

knotty vapor
balmy condor
balmy path
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
slim copper
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is there any way to see individual rupture uptime on each of the three hunters in WCL?

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guess i could look at scent of blood buff

slim copper
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this might be my tism a bit but im having a bit of a rough time keeping track of all the rupture uptimes. Made icons a bit big for bleeds on plater. Anything else you guys might suggest other than the usual "get gud"

marsh ferry
drifting cloud
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if you mean for hunters you can just track it on the boss frames

iron swan
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I’m trying to learn how to play death stalker rogue for mythic plus. Can anybody refer me to a comprehensive guide that is very good?

drifting cloud
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think shindig has a step by step guide on his discord of how to set it up

slim copper
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gonna look into this that would def help

slim copper
slim copper
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oh well i guess completely different things

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nvmd

drifting cloud
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yeah on SUF people usually disable everything except the boss frames

slim copper
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cool thanks for pointing me to this. Could be huge

iron swan
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The only guide I found is methods or icy veins. Are there any guides that explain all the buffs and stuff?

slim copper
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Not sure but seems pretty intuitive. If you go to /suf and then Boss >> Auras >> Buffs/Debuffs

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this is exactly what I wanted Thank you @drifting cloud

buoyant mortar
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Vanish before or after DM?

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single target Fatebound

drifting cloud
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doesnt matter

buoyant mortar
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sick

drifting cloud
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!dj

prisma monolithBOT
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antennaglorp Vanishing On Fatebound antennaglorp

  • you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
  • this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
  • because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
  • edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
  • you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst
sleek spear
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!pandemic

prisma monolithBOT
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Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

sleek spear
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!rupture

prisma monolithBOT
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Corrupt the Blood/Rupture Bug
Corrupt the blood can jump to mobs that are out of combat when the rupture-afflicted target changes from harmful to non-harmful
This is repeatable with mind control, but is most common on the third boss of Grim Batol when skipping the two elites before the boss.

You can avoid it by being EXTREMELY careful to not target anything when your target shifts, but otherwise not much to be done. Just be careful and aware as it is a niche bug that should not happen frequently

dawn seal
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hey I read something about item level being a really big deal for assassination interms of parsing

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like a bit more important than other specs

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is that true kind of

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Noted may I please have a review for this

balmy condor
red schooner
balmy condor
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on some of your bursts, your second shiv is late

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your prism should be before you flip your deathmark/kb coins

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and here you pressed kb before dm

red schooner
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I'm on mobile so it isn't the deepest dive, but yeah, 3 minutes were a bit off

balmy condor
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you also cast fok

red schooner
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And the killtimer didn't work too well from the netherprism

balmy condor
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which

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uh

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don't

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not much to say though, just 715 ilvl and minor stuff

red schooner
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Yeah, its most of the way there, just some small tweaks

runic terrace
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!shiv

prisma monolithBOT
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With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

dawn seal
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kill timer is around 5:44 right its kinda so close to my next dm but so far from it

balmy condor
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it's not a good timer

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idk if it's a bad timer

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but it certainly ain't great

dawn seal
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do I care about caping on combo points when I go into my cds

balmy condor
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no

dawn seal
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I think sometimes I think twice before sending cuz I am like oh I am gonna cap on combo points

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hence a bit late shiv maybe

balmy condor
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but you're late on the second shiv

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not the first

dawn seal
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oh yeah

arctic dust
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is there any good way of handling the mark at soul hunters mythic? I'm progressing them atm and tend to jump around the arena like a maniac (partly due to lacking tank movement, but whatever). I start the mark on Adarus since he dashes away and we follow - first intermission also on him - after that i start on Adarus again und try to move the mark onto the according boss before the next intermission. Does that sound reasonable or am I missing something?

balmy condor
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yeh that's pretty much it

arctic dust
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gotcha thanks

balmy condor
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worst case scenario you just apply a new mark with your vanish after an intermission

dawn seal
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I attempted araz last night with pugs was puging first 5 kind of

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what happens if the first set of adds endup stacked with the first echo

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its bad to send cds on echo right

balmy condor
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yes

strange moss
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for araz if ur concerned about parses should u do a strictly ST build?

hollow dirge
strange moss
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gotcha

peak bobcat
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fatebound spatter kirby_jam

strange moss
strange moss
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i checked lorrgs and most top logs are running fatebound

peak bobcat
red schooner
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Which threw me

lyric vale
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Yo is evasion usefull on any bosses in raid like any physical damage to evade?

dusky vault
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Dumb question do we refresh rupture during DM/KB or na?

lyric vale
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Well i dont know whats best but what i do is before u go into them u should refresh them or if u happened to not do it if ur sitting on 50stack kb refresh it then

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If rapture fall u would feel to much energy drain

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It also stack kb too so if its in pandemic refresh it" "

dusky vault
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I think sim api just refreshes no matter what but I've been doing similar to the above as well.

cinder steppe
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Hi, been progressing Nexus King as subtlety, but our raid is missing some ST damage and platforms are being destroyed right now, so im thinking on switching to assa since the ST especially in execute is like 400k+ more than subtlety, would that be a good choice? ive seen some logs and some people hold the deathmark that comes in the platform to use it on the dragon with BL, is that correct?

real pike
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If you send everything as soon as it comes up with no gaps you get full CD set for the amp

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Only thing you hold is Vanish/prism for the amp

cinder steppe
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In the tries ive done yesterday we used BL on the dragon and my deathmark was coming in 15/18 secs, is that a missplay by me?

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Or is that how it’s supposed to be

coral ibex
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if you send on cd you get dm on the platform and the amp is 90s later

spice surge
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Dm is 16 seconds and the amp is 30 seconds long

cinder steppe
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Okay will try tonight and send everything as soon as it comes and hopefully it dies today, yesterday we were almost everytry going into p3 but people dying made it impossible to manage

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Did it happened to any of you that you started as subtlety on nexus king and then changed to assa? Or is it just me that i see pointless the platform burst of subtlety with the gear that we have now?

real pike
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I'm ass one trick, I played it the whole way

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I also noticed that when we stopped lusting and potting the platform the amp came a little later

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Raid buff and extra ilvl might be pushing it earlier

glacial stump
cinder steppe
kind dome
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what do we do if we get an unexpected lucky coin? then kb and cb and dm and our trinket and vanish are desynced

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do i just sit on kb and dm? I know it comes down to whether we'll get an extra use of these cooldowns by sending them but what if we don't know?

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for fb single target

analog field
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The safest is to treat them as 45/1:30 and ignore the bug. But you can wait for 1min and send again DM KB but without trinket , ori if you have prism it is not that bad.

west crown
strange moss
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on a fight like araz when should you be using fok over mutilate?

humble verge
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when theres 4+ adds

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which is the usual on mythic but

strange moss
normal mist
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Maybe more mutilate crits

spice spire
strange moss
spice spire
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Your bleed uptime was lower + I’m assuming you’re not dotting everything

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I’m not doing a super deep dive into it

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He also had 18 more ruptures than you

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So I’m definitely assuming he’s dotting everything

strange moss
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i thought you're not meant to rupture unless a target is going to last the entire rupture

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i guess i could be putting up more ruptures during pylon phase on the ascendant

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maybe even on the ghost of araz

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i guess the 2nd text makes it have more value but when do you know to rupture a target?

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should i be rupturing the adds that come out?

glacial stump
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Look at the end of the fight, he puts out a lots of rupture during the add spawns

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You also send your CD's on pull, which lines up a little funny on a 6m+ fight. He waits for adds to spawn then sends his CD's. See at the end you dont end up with another big burst during the add phase

strange moss
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yep, i think ill try that next week sending cds at 20 seconds

glacial stump
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Honestly I Just make an mrt note to help with timings otherwise I'd be fucked

fresh blaze
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Whats the highest record?

strange moss
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im pretty confused now - i've been going through top logs with around the same kill time and im now wondering is there like a hard and fast rule for when to put up ruptures on other targets besides main boss.. specifically for araz where damage on adds dont count but rupture still gives energy?

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also, how is this possible:

glacial stump
glacial stump
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With a fight full of adds

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Sorry you cast 4

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Look at the end too, youre capping on energy

strange moss
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nah thats the other guy i am the red line

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no energy atowards the end

glacial stump
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Ahh sorry yeah

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Like i said earlier tho, your timings are a little off and youre not utilizing the fact that youre sorrounded by adds to use FoK on for CP's

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Other rogue in your raid did well to look at too

strange moss
unborn rain
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u use fok at 3+ im p sure

strange moss
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oh true sorry i forgot its 4

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yeah that makes sense..sorry

glacial stump
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and at the end of the fight theres like 20 adds around you

zealous moth
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on 2 adds i think it´s still FoK if you have clear the witnesses

strange moss
glacial stump
humble verge
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so

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i JUST

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learned

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you cant step thru to someone else

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on 1st boss beams

spice spire
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There’s no way

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You didn’t know that

humble verge
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i never tried it

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s1

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or s2

spice spire
humble verge
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atleast i finally hit 7m overall in a db

glacial stump
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1st/3rd boss are ass

analog field
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first is ok though coz you have 2 maybe 3 cd's for it

jaunty sky
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Wtf was that feral doing

humble verge
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almost 20 ilvls under me

spice spire
haughty pewter
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Hybrid actually feels kiinda nice

haughty pewter
runic hinge
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playing hybrid you're sending shiv with KB

waxen oyster
runic hinge
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you should have 2 charges

zealous moth
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only reason tu use outside of it is if you really need to burst something and can use the help from the buff to bleeds

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or if you're dry shiving

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in which case you would send it during the last 10 seconds of kb

humble verge
balmy condor
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Really no reason to press shiv in aoe other than big prio damage

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Does nothing otherwise

golden loom
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3rd char with gilded achievement suskaygeagreegebusiness gonna be able to get some cheap upgrades on the last week it matters!!!

haughty pewter
waxen oyster
fresh kelp
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what else are they for

golden loom
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exactly

waxen oyster
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based and real

zealous moth
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well then yeah, no point in shiving outside of kb

haughty pewter
zealous moth
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peeps be pumping

analog field
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isn't hybrid worse than bleed and cleave ?

zealous moth
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yeah

haughty pewter
analog field
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hubrid is kinda dead after season 1

zealous moth
balmy condor
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Hybrid is shit these days yeh

haughty pewter
balmy condor
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Cleave is like, kinda fine

zealous moth
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also do that with bleed

haughty pewter
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maybe 5

zealous moth
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huh?

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im lost

balmy condor
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Hybrid requires more cp though?

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Like if you’re gonna swap

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You need to prep kingsbane

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That requires more work than not prepping kingsbane

haughty pewter
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Like if mark has 3 stacks

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and i wanna switch, im locked for a bit

balmy condor
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But that’s always a problem

zealous moth
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but that is true for both versions

midnight scroll
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do you play fatebound in hybrid or?

balmy condor
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God no

midnight scroll
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well it looks like he does xd

balmy condor
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I’d hope not

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But maybe I guess

zealous moth
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👍

nocturne quail
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Bleed build is so bad, imagine electing to do less ST than season 2 dont @me

zealous moth
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true

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based

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and STpilled

balmy condor
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Imagine walking into a dungeon wanting to do single target damage like a cuck when you could blast instead

nocturne quail
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Zeross’ cook build was giga BiS but they assassinated

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No pun intended

zealous moth
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i dont do mechanics, i dont cleave, i dont target swap.
I full ST the boss.
And if my dps is shit? i KILL MYSELF

nocturne quail
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Bro just swap to sub rogue 5head

midnight scroll
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i'm playing sub tonight on araz again can't wait to be useless anyway

nocturne quail
zealous moth
balmy condor
zealous moth
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no reason to be the only one using aoe

midnight scroll
balmy condor
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Insane

haughty pewter
zealous moth
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hurts everyone

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even healers

haughty pewter
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Oh, I agree. I alt tank

midnight scroll
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i'd really like to play sin though, i played sub for a couple of days non stop and doing a single fight as sin was a beautiful moment

zealous moth
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also you don´t need stealth for IC, just 5 ruptures up, you can easily do those by hand and save vanish for giga pulls / refreshing bleeds easily

haughty pewter
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Need staleth for 0 cd garrote

zealous moth
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why tho

vestal granite
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-apply for 30 guilds
declined
-apply for 5000 m+ keys
declined
-queue for shuffle for 50 minutes
leaver
I dont see why this game is dead makes no sense to me this is great

haughty pewter
haughty pewter
vestal granite
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I have very good logs mate :d

zealous moth
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just end it atp

ebon notch
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good players will get good parses

haughty pewter
ebon notch
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that is just how it works

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sure you can get better parses with better kill times

midnight scroll
ebon notch
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but that wont stop you getting into a guild

zealous moth
ebon notch
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@silk bane hold me back im gonna crash out

zealous moth
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rupture gives you energy from venomous wounds already, and you care about scent of blood giving 20% agi

fresh kelp
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muh kill time

zealous moth
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for the rest, crimson tempest is your biggest damage dealing bleed overall

silk bane
zealous moth
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so what you should be focusing on is keeping CS, CT and 5xRupture up

ebon notch
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but theyre talking mad garbanzo bro

midnight scroll
# ebon notch ?

i had a conversation with my guildies about that, i was kinda bummed i'll prolly never get a 99 in mythic, they literally told me YOU CAN'T WITH THIS GUILD

fresh kelp
ebon notch
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wtf are you saying

midnight scroll
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so at least for me, even though i feel like i'm alright at the game, this is the case

midnight scroll
zealous moth
ebon notch
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no you made a blanket statement that good players dont always get good parses

ebon notch
zealous moth
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you can easily get purple parses even with the assest of the ass groups

ebon notch
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any guild that recruits based off your average parse is a dogshit guild

zealous moth
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if you´re gray/green parsing it is not because of kill timer

midnight scroll
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nah i am purple parsing, just not content with that, hence why i said what i said, but again, just my experience

zealous moth
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but when i was lfg a while back, i got a response from one saying they wanted at least 90+ overall parses for new recruits

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couldn't tell you the name, i applied to like 30 different guilds

ebon notch
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just such a red flag

zealous moth
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yeah

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100% agree

ebon notch
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its like the laziest of bars to put up because it requires zero effort on their part to actually check on your skill as a player

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these are my rogue logs rn

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lets see if i can improve on them tonight

zealous moth
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yeah i mean, it does give a fair measure of class AND encounter knowledge

zealous moth
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but also, if you are not doing any mechanics at all

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you can parse higher

ebon notch
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you can cheese the shit out of any boss almost

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you can pump a guy full of externals

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rescue them through every mechanic

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give them spellwarding

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parses are an ego metric only

zealous moth
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double pi the parse monkey so it gets invalidated :^)

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bro speaking of

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(completely unrelated but)

analog field
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Parses are an ok measure for most players and most guilds

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If you parse 85 or 99 is a bit random

solar eagle
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sorry if this is stated somewhere but im lookng at cooldown manager and trying to put envenom as a tracked bar but its showing envenom as unlearned

zealous moth
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a couple weeks back i got this spriest giving me pi

analog field
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but 20 parsemeans something

zealous moth
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when i already had my healer giving me pi

earnest remnant
zealous moth
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i asked them to stop and the mf literally said "i'm only doing it to kill your parse because you're first in dps"

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so mean

solar eagle
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yea

zealous moth
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i wouldn't bother with it for a while

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it's probly bugged af

solar eagle
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im doing it on remix to try things out but yea envenom icon shows but isnt highlighted and wont show the buff even tho i have it

ebon notch
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just for that

zealous moth
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i'm guessing you have to track it using the icon/bar?

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i saw they added that recently

solar eagle
haughty pewter
#

Bruh, 7:20 kill times on plexus were hurting my soul before ii left my old guild

zealous moth
#

haven't played in like week and a half so idk if the manager now highlights buffs or how it works

zealous moth
#

it's probly broken then

solar eagle
#

rip

silk bane
#

hes busy

zealous moth
solar eagle
ebon notch
zealous moth
silk bane
zealous moth
#

why would you need to track 1 envenom duration?? it's not like we are getting an apex talent that requires juggling the buff and losing ttk or anything :^)

silk bane
#

next time we get scana too and go 4 homies

zealous moth
#

nah it was ironic

solar eagle
#

oh gotcha

ebon notch
#

holy

solar eagle
#

missed the sarcasm XD

zealous moth
#

for sure should be able to track the buff

#

it's probly just broken atm

solar eagle
#

oh well ty anyways

earnest remnant
ebon notch
earnest remnant
#

true, i need to not be killed on Soulhunter for once by my guild, not troll on fractillus and dimmy idfk we ball i guess

ebon notch
#

smh

#

calls himself shit

#

links goated logs

#

even got a 69 on dimmy

#

get me out

earnest remnant
#

havent killed more than once

#

its not good

silk bane
#

why do i see sin in there

#

RAT

#

BETRAYAL

ebon notch
#

im playing sin today

earnest remnant
#

time to blow armins mind

ebon notch
#

sub stinky

#

does no damage unless the boss makes you do damage

earnest remnant
fallen charm
#

Hey guys which is easier, soul hunters or fractilus?

earnest remnant
#

fract

ebon notch
fallen charm
#

Easy like not even a real prog??

earnest remnant
#

i remember

haughty pewter
#

Depends on if the DH in the ciircle assignment next to you has a room temperature iq or not

earnest remnant
#

rat

ebon notch
#

LMAOO

silk bane
#

BETREYAL M

#

AN

ebon notch
#

legit no way to compete without PI in that tier no hate

earnest remnant
#

gapped

ebon notch
#

i stopped playing the spec for 6 months wtf

#

i was rank 1 wlogs

#

eat my ass

earnest remnant
#

being rank 1 when there was 4 months left is like saying you played D1 in highschool LMFAO

ebon notch
#

i wouldve been rank 1 for the tier but my stinky RL wouldnt let me hit adds on broodkeeper

#

😠

ebon notch
earnest remnant
#

i know

#

that was the point

ebon notch
#

savage

haughty pewter
ebon notch
#

bigger number better person

runic hinge
midnight mist
#

actual noob washed up

#

not a single r1 on board

#

old

ebon notch
midnight mist
#

washed up old man

ebon notch
#

I HAD PRIVATE LOGS AND PUBLIC LOGS

#

you literally werent born in that tier

#

little babby

midnight mist
#

that doesnt matter cuh the points shows the highest

#

no need to shout also ..

#

just because you are old ..

ebon notch
#

ur so washed

midnight mist
ebon notch
#

they were rank 1 when i got em

#

they were not rank 1 when i took the screenshot

#

is how it is

midnight mist
#

ye thats what i said

ebon notch
#

why u said it tho

midnight mist
#

idk bored rn

#

you ?

ebon notch
#

boutta raid

#

tune in and laugh at me

midnight mist
#

ok..

#

but you playing outlaw or what

ebon notch
#

not yet

#

dont have gear

#

assa for now cause sub boring

next dust
ebon notch
runic hinge
#

dont worry i call him noob !

spice spire
clever sparrow
spice spire
#

24 (in French years)

runic hinge
#

255

midnight mist
spice spire
#

Old

clever sparrow
#

ffs

ebon notch
spice spire
#

Yeah but I’m a hater

ebon notch
ebon notch
#

not a bad spread

river shoal
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
fresh kelp
#

crazy

#

whole lotta noobs in here

ebon notch
#

i just came back from a 10 month break

#

noob

fresh kelp
#

wait i meant to reply to stealthi

#

that guy is the noob

ebon notch
#

so true bestie

flat pier
#

Posting Sub in ass come on maaan

proven jasper
#

dave is always watching

agile geode
#

is still a lot better playing sub on saladhaar?

#

i guess rn assa is pretty good aswell

#

am i wrong?

analog field
#

Maybe even better

split cipher
#

Execute value is nice for p3, sin just worse on platform. If your group is fine there it's not throwing to play sin

slow kindle
#

How gear dependent is Assassination rogue?? I feel like I’m always last on the meters, I’m usually always the one with the lowest ILvl tho.

waxen oyster
#

you just gave 0 context

#

on content or anything

#

everyone is gear dependent to an extent

balmy condor
#

(that's a nice way of saying it's not a gear issue)

waxen oyster
slow kindle
waxen oyster
#

Well that's pretty low depending on the content

coral ibex
#

you will be at the bottom at 684 unless everyone else is also around there

#

that is last tier gear level so you’d be competing with people who haven’t played this season at all

#

and since we’re 2+ months in that is very unlikely

slow kindle
waxen oyster
#

Yeah idk part of it is player

#

shouldnt be overgeared chars in 3s

slow kindle
normal mist
#

you're doing content where who's first or last doesnt matter

#

you're not a burst spec

#

if you pair with burst specs, your damage is 0

slow kindle
#

Thank you. I mean I know I don’t play the rotations “perfectly” but I feel I’ve gotten much better.

normal mist
#

how do you proc caustic

copper hazel
#

he aint liking your pop quiz

normal mist
#

one question to rule them all

waxen oyster
#

tbh i hate the term rotation

#

because people go into things expecting to press buttons

#

in a hyper specific order

coral ibex
#

you do press buttons in a hyper specific order tho

#

every cd sequence on fb is shiv-dm-kb

#

you always shiv immediately after the first expires regardless of cp status

haughty flicker
#

i prefer to freestyle my cds a bit more

#

you know

#

dont wanna be too stiff

runic hinge
vestal granite
#

I m watching my Tank Paladin soloing So Leah for the last 20 minutes, maybe there is still hope for humanity

vestal granite
#

yep we got it

#

🎉

humble verge
maiden sierra
#

@humble verge my guild just imploded

haughty flicker
humble verge
maiden sierra
haughty flicker
#

lmao rip

humble verge
#

well

#

almost looks like were not getting CE

#

atleast not on wednesday

#

we've hit P3 but

maiden sierra
#

we had our first dimmy prog today

#

hit p2

#

suddenly midnight and @ everyone that the guild is dead OMEGAKEKW

haughty flicker
#

kinda based

#

fuck dimi

maiden sierra
#

welp... might be a good time to quit wow myself

#

since i dont vibe with midnight so far

humble verge
#

idk

maiden sierra
#

just kinda sad to quit a game after playing it for 8 years

humble verge
#

i preordered epic midnight xd

maiden sierra
#

same 💀

#

i need a refund garf

humble verge
#

but wiht gold

#

so idm

#

its the same price as a good

#

boe ring id say

nova kelp
#

8 years? you're still so young

ebon notch
#

Bro @balmy condor I’m pleasantly surprised how nice Assa felt to play

#

I played it for the first time in mythic reclear today

#

Being a 1:30 spec also just fits really nicely with the fights

humble verge
#

how much is ninja creami in cali @balmy condor

#

or in the US generally

nova kelp
tidal hatch
#

i get so bored even playing one season start to finish

#

atp the idea of doing any of the 8 dungeons in rotation even for vaults sounds as appealing as a root canal

#

i might just be a seasonal andy

runic hinge
#

wow has a lot more content than just m+ dungeons

#

crazy to think about I know

drifting cloud
haughty flicker
#

cant wait for the ffxiv club scene to migrate to wow

#

goldshire will be tame in comparison

coral ibex
#

its true

storm forum
runic hinge
haughty flicker
#

meow

storm forum
#

meow

unborn rain
#

meow

severe meadow
#

meow

unborn rain
#

progging king now like all the cool rogues

balmy condor
#

I'm not cool

latent gazelle
#

i wanna be a rogue on king instead of DH.

#

shits beans

storm forum
#

me healing the first 3/4 of every raid: damn it feels good to be a healer and not bored out of my mind on mdps.
me on the last 2 bosses of every raid: damn i wish i was vibing on mdps instead of sweating my balls off on healer

hot pasture
#

!spreadsheet

prisma monolithBOT
unborn rain
#

nk is probably gonna get really old fast

coral ibex
#

oh you will get really tired of casters not soaking ghosts

#

really quickly

unborn rain
#

dawg

#

hunting down mcs

#

top tier

dense cedar
dense cedar
#

exactly

tidal hatch
runic hinge
#

wow has more content than raids and dungeons !

tidal hatch
#

im not exactly the pet battle and roleplaying guy

balmy condor
#

not much of a mount/transmog/achievement collector either I take it

balmy condor
#

I guess

#

I'm much the same way

tidal hatch
#

the honest answer is that is i get my characters 1 mog i really like and 1 mount to match that mog and thats job done

real pike
#

I have question on the fucky FB talent that makes you do less damage the more mobs are near you. Is it ever more overall damage to avoid additional enemies even if you'll be spattering onto them?

So on dimmy when the 3 adds pop up on pull should I be standing in the middle of all 3, just standing on one of them or avoiding them all and just hitting boss somewhere else? Assuming my goal is just biggest overall damage

balmy condor
#

you should be standing on as many as possible for caustic

#

caustic trumps that talent multiple times over

#

think about it like this

#

your tails coins can do whatever damage

#

on single target, whatever that number is, is 1.3x

#

now you add a target, that's now 1.24x, but it spatters onto the second target for 1.4x

#

so you're now at 1.736x the original coin damage

#

at the "worst", you lose the 30% entirely when a 6th target is introduced, so it does 1.0x, but spatters an additional 40%x5 = 2.0x

#

which is a total of 3x

#

if that's confusing, you can also think of it as gaining 40% damage at the cost of 6% damage

#

and obviously all of this is only the coin damage, spatter works with envenom/poisons/kingsbane/poison bomb on top of the tails coin, so you would gain all of that as well

oak tangle
#

it could matter maybe only slightly ever for funnel damage, but if you're wanting funnel you'd go deathstalker

#

but also that fight probs doesnt exist

lusty kraken
#

these devs still don't bother fixing DS bugs

zenith elm
#

No they wont lol

lusty kraken
#

my mistake for playing rogue

buoyant herald
#

Have we not all come to terms with that by now

lusty kraken
#

I gave them the benefit of the doubt

#

but they proved me again what I already thought about them

quiet oar
midnight scroll
zenith elm
#

the spec is perfect, chef's kiss

real pike
ebon notch
#

What’s the command for caustic conditions?

red schooner
#

!caustic

#

Shit

#

I tried

#

!causticbug

prisma monolithBOT
#

Caustic is not bugged. The Green Puddle on the ground is Poison Bomb, not Caustic Spatter. You are either:

  1. Not using Deadly/Amplifying poison (or its not applied to your target)
  2. Not using Rupture on your target
  3. Not using Mutilate/Ambush if the above two are applied
quiet oar
#

Wait

#

no way people thought Caustic is Poison bomb

ebon notch
#

Whispyr mentioned there were alternate conditions for caustic applying

#

Like standing on the target

#

I thought there was a pin for that

quiet oar
#

Copied the message

#

not the link

#

second garf_sit

#

Do you mean this?

ebon notch
#

Thank you

#

Wait why does it say you’re a new member

quiet oar
#

Probably because Koffing deletes my existence from time to time garf_sit

#

Because i say things like "Ferals are Temu Version of Assa"

red schooner
midnight scroll
#

i might be missing something but is there any talent specifying that kingsbane flips an edge case coin? i know it does, but i can't find anything mentioning that in the talent tree

visual sun
#

its the 2pc set bonus

midnight scroll
#

ooooooooooooooh

#

sorry

#

apparently not sleeping the whole night isn't good for thinking

royal lantern
#

why do you have to be smart about math stuff

#

makes me feel even more stupid tbh

weary stump
#

The moment you get spectral sight from lack of sleep is when you peak

orchid moth
oak tangle
#

wot

#

u ok bro

#

on what metric are we currently shit

pliant remnant
#

assa not top 1

#

ergo, shit

oak tangle
#

if i scuffedly pick 50th percentile we are

#

XD

pliant remnant
#

yeah but 60th percentile we're #2

#

so like

#

dead spec

fallow canopy
#

you aren't number 1 you are deadge as the kids are saying

oak tangle
#

why so many peeps wanna doom and just spout utter bullshit

orchid moth
#

I get it you like asssianation

#

Dead tho

oak tangle
#

i hope to god you just troll rage baiting

#

otherwise you need jesus

analog field
#

i mean some people are just insane it is ok

rotund oak
orchid moth
#

Let's not get mad and start the name calling

#

It is what it is

analog field
#

no name calling here only facts

oak tangle
#

i just wanna know the agenda

#

like what purpose does saying what you say serve

rotund oak
#

thats deep

analog field
#

i understand that if the statement were true it could somehow help( maybe not) but it is totally incorrect too

earnest remnant
earnest remnant
#

i never gaslight, im just delusional

oak tangle
#

crazy world we live in where rage baiting is entertainment lol

oak tangle
#

sits behind PC on a Tuesday
Rubs hands together
You know what I'm gonna do today?
Goes into rogue discord
"Assassination is shit"
HAHAHA GOTEM

red schooner
analog field
#

the weird thing for me is they believe it

unborn rain
#

lying is goated

rotund oak
earnest remnant
#

very low but never 0

orchid moth
red schooner
#

Imagine doing keys kekdog

orchid moth
#

Well that is one part of the metric they are shit at

rotund oak
#

not the absolute one though

orchid moth
#

Highest raid boss?

rotund oak
#

wdym by highest

earnest remnant
#

all 8 waddup

orchid moth
analog field
#

dude assa now in raid is op

#

in last 2 bosses

#

wtf are you smoking

orchid moth
#

Go on then go kill it

analog field
#

i will

#

what is your problem

red schooner
earnest remnant
#

id say assa is doing just fine in mythic

rotund oak
#

because it is

#

bro is gaslighting

orchid moth
#

Sheesh

rotund oak
#

or just here to measure his key length

#

lul

earnest remnant
#

Nexus king

quiet oar
earnest remnant
rotund oak
red schooner
#

Me waiting on the response

past bobcat
#

Anyone know if you have to kill nexus king/dim for your vault to be 717? Like I killed them a couple weeks ago and last week we recleared only 6/8

#

Will my vault be 717 or 714

haughty flicker
#

The ilvl is based on the highest boss you killed that week

#

But also it won't matter anyway in a week when crests uncap

midnight mist
#

nerf sub

humble verge
#

why do i keep joining boost runs somehow

main bridge
#

Didn’t their gear or IO give you a clue?

humble verge
#

no i just dont check but

#

meh

main bridge
#

Well there’s your problem

humble verge
#

maybe i should start checking

haughty flicker
humble verge
#

well run was like

#

just over 20 minutes anyways

#

fine to me

normal mist
humble verge
#

why do they redo the text

#

after ive signed up

normal mist
#

Tldr: fuck you guys that only want the transmog

rotund oak
main bridge
#

too busy pvping irl

lyric grail
lucid nexus
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
humble verge
#

could you do any better tho

waxen oyster
#

lmao did the ragebaiter leave

haughty flicker
#

no im right here

humble verge
#

man

#

peak laziness

#

fuckers in the next key

#

didnt bother to move the damn tangle

#

🛌

waxen oyster
#

twitter is the better ragebait platform anyway

#

just write something politically charged on a burner

weary stump
#

I enjoy ragebaiting in raid zone chat during week 1 of any given raid tier

#

Distract the bads so they wipe their group

oak tangle
#

bads dont need any help with that

weary stump
#

That's true, but still funny%

oak tangle
#

had a guildie ask a notoriously bad guildie, if theyve tried using the one button macor

#

"i haven't and wont for the classes i know"

#

mans dead 10-20s into any fight

hearty seal
#

ngl
I've seen people play with obr and without
and still die to the same things at the same times

#

like it doesn't help them

#

they die because they're stupid, not because they're greeding damage or confused by their class

oak tangle
#

for context this guy is arcane mage and his rot is wild af

hearty seal
#

oof

oak tangle
#

this is the only spells pressed on heroic fractilus

#

frost nova is hmmmm, but disntinct lack of totm

#

:/

#

like i dont mind people being bad, but to say they know the class is wild

humble verge
#

ffs

#

why does the Giants have to play on raidnight

static glacier
#

only very confident sin players would dare play it vs the masses playing sub

#

avg sin player with a log on last two will be a ton better than the equivalent sub

earnest remnant
#

its the 95th percentile

#

so top 5 of both

static glacier
#

yes but 95th percentile of like

earnest remnant
#

5%*

static glacier
#

40 logs or w/e sin logs there are

#

is not the same as top 5% of like 500 sub logs

#

right

earnest remnant
#

its 96 vs 349

#

if anything it shoulder favor sub

static glacier
#

hm

#

I mean im fairly sure sub is better on last 2

earnest remnant
#

since the better rogue players would gravitate to the "better" rogue spec

static glacier
#

on dimmy atleast it's not really a contest

#

sin just pads p1

#

execute cds

#

and does shit platform dmg

oak tangle
#

it gets better the lower percentiels

static glacier
#

relative to sub

haughty flicker
#

if platforms arent an issue on nexus king assa definitely seems better

#

based on boss damage logs

static glacier
#

sin is solid on platforms

#

your titan dmg isnt weak, a bit less than sub but solid nontheless

haughty flicker
#

assa also turbo stomps sub on boss damage

static glacier
#

solidly upper half

haughty flicker
#

but some of that might be unethical sub players

earnest remnant
oak tangle
#

how does sub look for boss damage with accursed DS funnel

earnest remnant
#

the name my guild gave the left side on nexus king after i padded my way t orank 1

static glacier
#

might try and switch to sin for the kill on dimmy ngl

#

theyre saying w edont send 90s on 1st platform

#

and hold for 2nd

earnest remnant
static glacier
#

idk

#

sub seems giga wack

oak tangle
#

discusging

earnest remnant
#

why would you lmfao they are up for platform 2 anyway

static glacier
#

idk, tbh with you i can probably do w/e i like and no one will say much

oak tangle
#

my guild gave tf up on mythic for lemix

#

🙁

unborn rain
#

what lol

#

that sucks

haughty flicker
#

based guild

oak tangle
#

we only progging loom, so like we casual af

#

but i was hoping to use the sin buffs in raid

latent gazelle
oak tangle
#

they're a social member, not main raid, but also different guild

humble verge
#

did u guys make a tank for Lemix

main bridge
#

i made a DK but i'm kinda bored with it because you're basically following around that guy that no-lifed and is ilvl 740 while he obliterates everything

humble verge
#

huge

#

i just want to get stuff anyways

oak tangle
#

remade a healer

golden loom
haughty flicker
humble verge
#

you can already get the scythe no?

#

or do you have to wait for the specific raids

#

to get that currency

golden loom
#

specific raid

humble verge
#

k

golden loom
#

u need the currency from argus

#

also the green one is from killing mythic argus garf

humble verge
#

alr

humble verge
oak tangle
#

ye

#

then i learnt that you get ilvl by quest boxes at 80

#

🙁

tranquil cobalt
#

btw

#

spatter is bugged on live

zinc wing
#

How?

tranquil cobalt
#

doesnt trigge

copper hazel
#

!spatter

zinc wing
#

Do you have a Log without any spatter Trigger?^^

tranquil cobalt
#

almost doen

normal mist
tranquil cobalt
#

what do you mean?