#assassination

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weary stump
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But I don't have prism so don't mind me

zealous moth
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FB macro to vanish, DS macro to DM

weary stump
severe meadow
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I was so happy dude

weary stump
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Lucky lad

zealous moth
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i got H prism out of a weekly chest kekw

weary stump
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I'm running lily and sacbrood garf

zealous moth
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isn't sacbrood

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bad?

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or am i delulu

glossy dust
zealous moth
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don't remember much from s1

severe meadow
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Over pacemaker yeah

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If we’re talking passive trinkets from m+

weary stump
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It's mid, better than most of the other equip options

zealous moth
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if you want to go DS fo soulbinder and bind it to vanish sure why not knock yourself out

glossy dust
zealous moth
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but ideally you already know

glossy dust
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or

zealous moth
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and just swap ability for macro where needed

glossy dust
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the lazy version uknowkekdog

zealous moth
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oh so you want to be able to vanish with trinket and without trinket but not having 2 buttons?

glossy dust
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not necesarily like that i was just thinking what i could do

zealous moth
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i mean if you are not using shared actionbars for every spec you don't have that issue

glossy dust
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The DM macro isnt a problem since u can jsut vanish before DM

glossy dust
zealous moth
glossy dust
# zealous moth yeah

yeah makes sense actualy - ill just remove that option and swap one thing lmao what

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doing all this thinking for nothing

zealous moth
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if you want to setup a baseline with like utility/defensives/consumables etc

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you can setup the baseline bar, activate shared bars on it first

glossy dust
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ye thats what i mostly used it for

zealous moth
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then set all other specs to shared bars, that will make them copy the first one

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then remove shared from all of them and setup offensives separatelly

glossy dust
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thats exactly what im going to do - thank yo uver much - m+ to DM fatebound to vanish correct?

zealous moth
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correct

glossy dust
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ty sir

zealous moth
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for raid DS bind it to dm as well

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as vanish is not part of your rotation on raid

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unless you're on DHs but then you are just playing m+ build

zealous moth
glossy dust
zealous moth
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as far as i know, we go DS for soulbinder

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the rest is correct, FB for everything else except hunters

zealous moth
glossy dust
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oh i didnt even know that - ill recheck and make adjustments

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dope learned somenthing new

severe meadow
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and honestly with turbo it’s going to die so quick it might be a FB angle later

glossy dust
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oh see then it was correct

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i wonder how people came up with what to play on the two fights, seems so abstract

jovial hull
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not that abstract, adds FB bad, no adds FB good

weary stump
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If adds die too fast because other people, maybe fb good

glossy dust
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why not fatebound + caustic tho like on the other cleave fights

weary stump
glossy dust
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i tought that was like the whole point

jovial hull
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cuz too many adds

glossy dust
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of like having some aoe while being st focused

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but not enough for m+ build like soulhunters? or is it the same build

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ill go check actualy dafuq am i asking for

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oh u cant see it from the guide its just a link

jaunty sky
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On heroic im barely getting to touch the adds on soulbinder

oak tangle
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my guild doesn't break out adds

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after 30% on soulbinder Mythic

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:((((

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mega sad

glossy dust
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isnt that the gameplan

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we do that even on heroic reclear

oak tangle
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i wanna parse

glossy dust
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fair

oak tangle
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can tell you for sure rank 1's dont

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tho tbf they probs kill it during add phase

glossy dust
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ye they prob murk it hella fast

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there is a preview of the talents my bad

zealous moth
glossy dust
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i mean i guess not that id knew why and what makes the diffrence exactly to soulhunters but thanks for telling

zealous moth
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also 2 min cds line up better for the big break and you get DM KB with all adds up that gives you giga damage on the cs cleave

glossy dust
zealous moth
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but it may be better to go fb if adds are dying fast

zealous moth
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most i got was a pug 2 weeks ago where randoms couldn't even break adds out on the first wave

glossy dust
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classic

zealous moth
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yeah

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but if your group ilvl is high and people are doing things right, adds should be dying fastish at this point

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if not, you can just stick to ds so your lead doesn't bitch at you for not killing adds

glossy dust
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they did die rather fast but id prob get cds off

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but ye i see its basicaly st with caustig and soime extra dmg from DS

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is the plague dmg a bleed?

zealous moth
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for fatebound you´re also losing delivered doom when adds break out

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and big aoe is important on that part so

zealous moth
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and shadow but

glossy dust
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iirc envenom is also nature

zealous moth
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yeah

glossy dust
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its def fun to play

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tripple step is so cool

unborn rain
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the chat images arent fixed

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|cffffffffTinterface/PVPFrame/PVP-Banner-Emblem-1:275:275:0-1|cfffffffft still shows a wheelchair

zealous moth
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what is this ugly ass YT bar

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kill it with fire

zealous moth
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i saw some people on twitter with massive images on their screen

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did they just do a league and chat can break other people's games?

unborn rain
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idk bro

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im a lemming

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i just copy and paste it and it blinds ppl

tacit hedge
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What passive procs slice and dice for finishers?

zealous moth
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ctts

midnight scroll
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cut to the chase iirc

zealous moth
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class passive

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not on talent tree

tacit hedge
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I see, thank you

pliant remnant
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cut to the schase

broken lynx
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the 4pc tier set is a buggy mess after having been noted as “fixed” in a hotfix note. It has a chance to double proc, not proc at all, and sometimes even proc in the middle of the fight and desync all your cooldowns.

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this is still a thing right?

spice surge
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Yes the hotfix notes lied

latent kernel
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so is there basically a 0 chance of any of the existing bugs being fixed due to midnight launchj

zealous moth
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pretty much

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i mean, it´s launching soontm anyway so

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why would they bother taking time from midnight balancing if so much current shit is already fixed or going away on next expansion

outer kernel
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hey guys dont know if this channel is the right one but for assa in legion remix what artifact tree i am taking?

lament bolt
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I think fel is pretty universally recommended for DPS

zealous moth
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then one that vibes right with you

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the lion does not concern himself with remix optimization

haughty flicker
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i felt the same until i saw the dreadlord damage

zealous moth
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i haven't played remix yet

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will probly start next week

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i'm so excited to actually play legion and not just blitz through the story quests

outer kernel
lament bolt
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Uhh, you're going to end up blitzing regardless

zealous moth
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i mean

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probably

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but not having one aa oneshot everything is what im getting at

midnight scroll
royal lantern
vale fox
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🤣🤣🤣

rotund oak
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@balmy condor yo babe,about what time u streamin' tomorrow

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(sry for the tag im at work)

unborn rain
zealous moth
pulsar plank
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oh yeah sry

zealous moth
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no worries

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someone was gonna yell at you anyway

lyric grail
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Assa is disguting op in lemix

latent kernel
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how impactful is following envenom rules for bleed build i.e. envenoming on 5 vs 7 combo points

red schooner
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5+ normally, 7 for darkest night

latent kernel
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erm thats not what i asked

red schooner
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I mean, why would you deviate from normal rules, what would you be deviating to, or you could just... do it as normal.

latent kernel
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bro what are you even talking about lopl

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if anyone has an actual answer to the question lmk

red schooner
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Your original question about the impact of following envenom rules, which, doesn't make sense.

latent kernel
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dude youre so right lol, okay anyone have an answer

split cipher
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You dont consune stacks sub 4, you don't refresh the mark sub 6. The spender is entirely wasted if not following the rule

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That good?

latent kernel
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was looking for a %

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like for example if you full stack combo points

latent kernel
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every time

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vs just doing 5

latent kernel
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basically was just trying to figure out how much damage is lost/impact if i overcap

spice spire
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But 3 every time

split cipher
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There is not a Sim for this, you're turning off your hero talent

spice spire
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Yeah it’s not good

latent kernel
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no no, i dont mean im losing DS mark on target

spice spire
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So you just follow the rules

latent kernel
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i mean say i apply deathstalkers

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and i overcap combo points and do a 7 point envenom

spice spire
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Yes you’re losing finishers because you’re overcapping

latent kernel
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instead of a 5 or 6 because i press mutilate twice

spice spire
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Like

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You’re losing raw finishers

latent kernel
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i understand that

spice spire
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There’s no % as variance is ingrained into the spec

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It’s less than optimal

balmy condor
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Also no one knows the actual number

red schooner
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We don't know the % loss because... the sims are written assuming that the spec is played correctly. Nobody wrote a sim that plays wrong.

balmy condor
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We don’t run simulations and shit just for fun to determine how bad an obviously bad thing is

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So

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That number just doesn’t exist

latent kernel
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i understand that, i guess i was just looking for how much of a % decrease it is if i fuck up my rotation

balmy condor
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No one has done that

latent kernel
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for example in sub channel, they say macroing CB to ST is like a ~1% loss

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was looking for that sort of answer

balmy condor
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Yeah, we don’t have that

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The only reason they know that is cause someone tested macroing it while they optimized the usage for cb and remembered it from their testing

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No one’s ever just made the sim just finish on 7 just because

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I would assume educated guess it’s gonna be like between 2-4%

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But that would assume all finishers are at 7, not just sometimes

latent kernel
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yeah this is basically what i was asking, i just wanted to see if there was a sim done or if anyone knew the outcome of that

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thank you for giving an actual answer instead of "thing bad, dont do thing, why would you do thing"

balmy condor
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I mean in 99% of cases, that is the correct answer

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Most people just genuinely don’t know the rotation, and it’s not often people show up looking for a numerical answer to a niche and obviously incorrect thing

unborn rain
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lol get owned

haughty flicker
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kinda based though

latent kernel
rotund oasis
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Is the reason bleed build has stayed the most used in m+ because of bugs with hybrid/cleave?

balmy condor
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no

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bleed build has stayed the most used is cause it's just the most damage

rotund oasis
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Okay fair enough

zealous moth
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the number was pulled from the deepest part of my ass

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go do with it what you want

latent kernel
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its crazy because you still answered the question more accurately than most people who tried

zealous moth
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memeing keeps me winning

proven jasper
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did he though

latent kernel
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as far as im concerned, he gave a % and cited his sources lmfao

honest silo
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Your definition of accurate is kinda off

zealous moth
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also there are a bunch of things to take into account if you want to come up with something near a %

latent kernel
zealous moth
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are you on aoe? what is the target count?

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probly just not worth to think on it

clever sparrow
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which spec better on soulhunters?

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sub or sin?

latent kernel
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agreed but lot of no life simmers out there, is it really crazy to ask if someone had simmed it before

zealous moth
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there is no benefit to doing 7 cp over 5 cp unless you are reapplying dn

spice spire
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That’s an insane scenario to think of

latent kernel
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its literally not

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lol

spice spire
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When the same power can just be playing correctly

latent kernel
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how is full capping combo points vs using envenom rotation an insane scenario lol

zealous moth
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i wouldnt worry about it too much

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first, for m+ most of your damage comes from bleeds, not from optimizing cp spending for envenom

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also, it won't matter next season so

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just always 5cp envenom

latent kernel
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PSA i know its worse, i literally asked if there was a sim that showed a % decrease because i was curious lol

zealous moth
proper nest
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if you have prism in raid do you use on every deathmark or do you use it every 3mins ?

red schooner
haughty flicker
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Envenom

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Wtf

red schooner
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Shit

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Deathmark

haughty flicker
red schooner
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I know what I meant

red schooner
latent kernel
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wheres all the know it alls when this guy said to bind netherprism to envenom 🔎

proven jasper
spice spire
zealous moth
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Giga brain bind prism to envenom

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Perma 3k agility

red schooner
ancient ingot
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guys how can i make this like zero how many targets have i with bleeds ?

drifting cloud
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its a weakaura

fervent willow
spice spire
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
humble verge
balmy condor
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and you decided that this would be the channel instead of offtopic

humble verge
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this is my blog

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you know

balmy condor
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make better decisions or I will make decisions instead

humble verge
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solly

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i put it in offtopic

severe meadow
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He’ll get flustered

glacial stump
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Anyone... no...just me?

jaunty sky
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In p3

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Cause that fight takes forever

humble verge
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we love boosting

midnight scroll
humble verge
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when he said

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"cut is juicy"

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kek

hollow dirge
dim nymph
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no more midnight alpha channel?

main bridge
dim nymph
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hm I wonder why it disappeared on me

main bridge
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the channel is nocturnal

coral ibex
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discord is weird

haughty flicker
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It pressed vanish

somber sparrow
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guys should we be simming with latest or weekly...

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just kidding

thorn thorn
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@balmy condor wtb new friends

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One of the new players told me that feral is one of the highest apm specs in the game

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And they actually believe this

humble verge
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man

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this boost shouldv ebeen done long ago

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we started at 1800

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lmao

haughty flicker
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Yeah and its already 2025

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That's wild

humble verge
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no ok

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im gonna

coral ibex
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i think they just updated the cooldown manager on live?

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or am i smoked

maiden sierra
thorn thorn
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Shadow ping

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What happened

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Who

jolly stirrup
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New Loomi PB happybear

red schooner
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Huuuuge!

viral prawn
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Might not be the place for this question, but uh… For remix, the builds all seem weird from what I’ve looked through ded
Has anyone found a standard one yet 🤣

viral prawn
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Thanks

haughty flicker
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no problem

coral ibex
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im stuck in extendo land until dimmy dies so im farming heroic parses to feel something

red schooner
coral ibex
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and some mfer has already beaten my r1 loom

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this is literally 1984

runic hinge
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It has the most downtime of any spec in the game

haughty flicker
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dev lower

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beam go brrr

lusty kraken
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funny how one rogue bug gets fixed and now assa does decent damage in raid LOLW

spice spire
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gulps

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Downtime?

haughty flicker
runic hinge
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Also what are you gulping?

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Also I switched to feral cause my wrists are old

jaunty sky
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His drink cause he can take his hands off the keyboard

spice spire
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“My wrists” unnecessary there king

runic hinge
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True

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I was born in the late 1900’s

haughty flicker
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real

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so glad i can say that and it technically be true

coral ibex
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simpol

balmy condor
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no head?

thorn thorn
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The other new player told me frost mage is an rng spec

haughty flicker
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all specs are rng specs

thorn thorn
haughty flicker
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if i dont parse well its because of rng

thorn thorn
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Big true

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Why Whispyr dont include how to be more lucky on his guides

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He is trolling us

buoyant herald
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Cats tongues are so rough bro wtf

runic hinge
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Maybe he’s into that

buoyant herald
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Not for long

fallow canopy
keen spruce
balmy condor
flint escarp
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Assa disc I love you guys you have been great to me during war withing season 2 and 3 everyone is so helpful and nice here! I've cancelled my sub for now I will be back for midnight even though I'm not thrilled about the direction the game is going I'm trying to stay positive. Thanks for all the help see you in about 5 months

red schooner
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See you around!

glossy dust
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yall gettin invites as rogue or

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people in a +14 asking for specific classes

balmy condor
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yeh, such is the m+ brainrot

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pugging m+ is horrid

glossy dust
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it truly is

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but then finding people to run m+ with is also not that easy

lunar pond
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I get declined from +10-12 for crest/vault keys. Pug garbage fishing for their perfect comps lol

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I think, in general for score/push keys, pugs will choose a hunter/DH almost 100% over this class regardless of spec. Sub probably has it a little better

nova kelp
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I'm 722 and I got declined earlier too for a 10

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now it might be that they were looking for a healer

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but I call bs

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it's just sin bias

glossy dust
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idk these people are crazy

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like u cant make this up

wise whale
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Anyone know if you can feint the Fractilus spread circles?

balmy condor
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you can

wise whale
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okay, ty king o7

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@raw gale sheet when btw

raw gale
balmy condor
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aint no way

haughty flicker
thorn thorn
wise whale
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kek

thorn thorn
balmy condor
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game 3 and totals

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game 2 was close, game 1 we weren't close

thorn thorn
balmy condor
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goat

storm stratus
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guys what is ur opener , i ambush 2x garrote 2x rupture mutilate and crimson temp , continue shiv deathmark trinket pot spam envenom but I can see at most 20 m then my damage drops rapidly

balmy condor
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I'm guessing this is aoe

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but that sounds about right

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ambush 2x garrote is weird though, that's giga overcap

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should be ambush gar, 2x rupture, gar, mut, crimson tempest, cds

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and you keep spreading garrote till everything has it

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but 20mil and then damage dropping sounds normal

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that's kinda just how burst works

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wouldn't be burst if you sustained it

storm stratus
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target change ? or only main

balmy condor
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nah, just slam your main target

storm stratus
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rupture 5 garrote 5 and i changed target

balmy condor
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what

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why would you change targets

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you have deathstalkers mark

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hit that guy

storm stratus
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When there are too many mobs I change it to rupture and garrote

balmy condor
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you change what to rupture and garrote

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I thought you just said you're changing targets

fallen charm
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I guess the envemon spam

balmy condor
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changing the envenom spam to rupture or changing the targets to envenom spam

fallen charm
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but still not worth it after the 5 rup

balmy condor
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like idk what we're doing

latent kernel
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Pro tip use mouse over to spread bleeds better

balmy condor
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not necessary

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but sure

lucid silo
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can we just roll face on keyboard spam

fallen charm
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we can delete all the mouse over in midnight

storm stratus
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5 rupture - Should I spread more than 5 garrotes?

balmy condor
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mouseover rupture is literally worse btw KEKW

balmy condor
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sure, you don't spread more than 5 ruptures, cause you're only doing it for scent of blood

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if you mouseover, you don't iterate on deathstalkers mark

glossy dust
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do u spread more than 5 targets?

latent kernel
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Tf that even mean

balmy condor
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for garrote, yes

thorn thorn
glossy dust
balmy condor
# latent kernel Tf that even mean

well you need to hit your target to break down the deathstalker's mark, yes? If you mouseover, you aren't hitting your target, so you're not breaking down the deathstalker's mark

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and you don't care about the 6th rupture

fallen charm
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1 evenon+LOTS of caustic targets >>> 3 lousy ruptures

balmy condor
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you only care about the first 5

storm stratus
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stats is true ?
i have araz trinket

glossy dust
balmy condor
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scent of blood

latent kernel
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You can melee your target but mouse over spread rupture

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Like you’re not switching targets

glossy dust
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i see so its strictly for scent of blood

thorn thorn
balmy condor
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yes, but if you mouseover, you do not use rupture on your main target

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you need to use a finisher to remove a stack of deathstalker's mark

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you are not doing that with a mouseover

glossy dust
storm stratus
fallen charm
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remove 1 point from scent of blood and rupture 10 targets Macky

balmy condor
glossy dust
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i see and then after 2 ruptures u just use other finishers while spreading ruptures

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cool good to know

balmy condor
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you maintain CT and spam the hell out of envenom, yes

glossy dust
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o7

thorn thorn
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Whispyr I have a meme(real) question for you from a new player

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fok crits can generate combo points per hit because of the talent i forgot the name of

balmy condor
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I have a meme answer for you

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seal fate, yes

thorn thorn
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He wants to know if its better to intentionally hit less targets so he doesnt overcap

balmy condor
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brother what

storm stratus
balmy condor
thorn thorn
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That was my answer too actually

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He didnt clarify

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He just asked if it was better to hit less targets so he over caps less combo points

balmy condor
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it is not

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but I appreciate the creativity of his mind

latent kernel
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So mouseover rupture bad what about garrote

storm stratus
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then antenna-prism or araz-prism ? or antenna-lily

balmy condor
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mouseover garrote is fine

latent kernel
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What about mouseover CT

storm stratus
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sim badd :()

haughty flicker
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real

balmy condor
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could've just said that from the get go

latent kernel
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Well that one was a joke

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The first two were serious lol

balmy condor
thorn thorn
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Whispyr is always getting baited

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Truly a masterbaiter

latent kernel
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Wanna see a top tier bait

haughty flicker
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masterbaitee

latent kernel
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Bro my tank wouldn’t stop chain pulling so bad

balmy condor
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you should become a comedian

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literally crying rn

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hilarious

storm stratus
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I can't make the dps shown there 🙂

balmy condor
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that doesn't make the sim bad

latent kernel
balmy condor
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how bout you learn how to do it yourself

thorn thorn
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Only if you are playing ret

balmy condor
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that way you can check all the stupid shit you could ever want

thorn thorn
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But whispyr

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Can I trust sims when it says ritual forge is better than prism in my 10 minute 8 target sim

balmy condor
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10 min? might be too short

latent kernel
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You heard him sim it yourself

thorn thorn
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True let me try 30m

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Actually

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Another question

latent kernel
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Do 90 minute to account for typical keystone time

thorn thorn
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How many deaths in a 7 do you consider to be "too many"

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Not a trick question

quaint dragon
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3

main bridge
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1

haughty flicker
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its gotta be over 30

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bc can still time with 30

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dont ask

thorn thorn
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Ok

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Well

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Is 80 too many

sudden mauve
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we have an upper bound, that's progress

latent kernel
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3-9 keystone range is nightmare fuel

maiden sierra
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2-14 is nightmare fuel

latent kernel
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Well 9-12 they start having some idea of a route but it just becomes an interrupt check

maiden sierra
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very often in fact

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so often i dont do keys with pugs anymore kekdog

thorn thorn
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I have a log of 80 deaths in a 7

latent kernel
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Pug keys are fun sometimes bc shi just hits the fan so quick

thorn thorn
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With the context being that 3 of the 5 people are brand new to the game

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And it was

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Painful.

maiden sierra
#

granted i have a new issue with doing keys with guildies

latent kernel
#

I had a Druid tank that routinely shifted out of bear form -> ursols-> regrowth lmfao

#

Was diabolical

maiden sierra
#

they blast so hard that trash dies in 3 sec in +12. literally cant even apply my bleeds in time cuz ele shaman just pops everything

#

and they dont want to do anything higher than 12s...

latent kernel
#

Sudden demise goes crazy in 12s for that reason lol

#

Even though it’s worse

maiden sierra
#

first pull of gambit makes me wish i was dead

#

those murlocks have no hp

haughty flicker
#

at least its over fast

thorn thorn
#

Packs literally vaporized

maiden sierra
#

yeah we hit the bonkers gear territory where anything under a 14 might as well not exist

maiden sierra
#

im a fat liar it was 17 mins

thorn thorn
#

My gambit 13 was bricked initially cuz we had a mw that was playing caster build

maiden sierra
#

i dont know what i would do without the wheel of making my life decisions

thorn thorn
maiden sierra
#

guess which

haughty flicker
#

nobody plays tft anymore

maiden sierra
#

damn

#

real

#

tbf i like this set more than the last one

#

although the ballance does feel weird

haughty flicker
#

ngl i first played a couple sets ago

#

got to masters

#

was hardstuck and realized i actually suck at the game

#

and havent been back since

thorn thorn
#

Bro is admitting to playing a game by riot

#

The CIA couldnt get me to admit that

maiden sierra
#

brother i play 4 riot games

#

5 when the mmo comes out

#

im a lost cause

haughty flicker
#

bro still thinks the mmo is ever coming out

maiden sierra
#

nah man they are hiring devs for the mmo

#

suuuurely comes out in the next 20 years

runic hinge
#

Armin will cope with you it comes out before 2030

#

(It got scrapped for the second time last year)

thorn thorn
#

Give me some of that copium

haughty flicker
#

"we want to restart development because we decided people dont want a wow clone with a league of legends skin"

#

mf thats exactly what i want

maiden sierra
#

i belive in the 2030 release date

thorn thorn
#

This is literally exactly what i want

#

what

errant heath
#

how do you macro shadowstep to an enemy unit?

#

im trying this in my raid right now it isnt working

#

#showtooltip
/cast [@Duskblaze] Shadowstep

maiden sierra
thorn thorn
#

Or you can set enemy to focus and cast @focus which works too

latent kernel
#

That works ^ or setting focus

#

Read my mind

thorn thorn
#

The last part is optional

#

If you are fully target swapping to the thing you are stepping to then remove the /targetlasttarget

maiden sierra
#

i wonder if necrit can hit 20 league mmo videos before the game comes out

thorn thorn
#

smh

thorn thorn
latent kernel
#

Read my girlfriends when I ask her what she wants for dinner plz thanks

thorn thorn
#

Im not third wheeling bro

radiant aspen
#

tell me how can i improve

thorn thorn
#

But just know

radiant aspen
#

bit tips would be nice

thorn thorn
#

When she says she doesnt know

#

She has an answer

radiant aspen
thorn thorn
#

she just wants to see if you can figure it out

haughty flicker
maiden sierra
#

the correct answer is to feed her all day with thoughts of a specific food without her realising you are so that when its dinner time you will have mind controlled her into eating what you want

haughty flicker
#

vanish should be used at some point between pressing shiv and using your last cold blood buffed envenom

radiant aspen
thorn thorn
radiant aspen
#

should i send my shiv on cd

#

or pull it to do it with kb

#

idk

thorn thorn
#

Rob what do you mean by that bro

haughty flicker
#

in deathmark, use two charges of shiv to cover the whole thing

#

on your kingsbane outside of deathmark, just one one shiv during the last 8 seconds

#

that way you'll have 2 charges again for your next deathmark

#

and just repeat that

radiant aspen
#

ok and about vanish i only use vanish to apply improved garrot

#

am i doing something wrong

#

? 😄

maiden sierra
haughty flicker
#

!dj

prisma monolithBOT
#

antennaglorp Vanishing On Fatebound antennaglorp

  • you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
  • this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
  • because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
  • edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
  • you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst
haughty flicker
#

that explains vanish better than i can

radiant aspen
#

thanks glorp

#

ur goated

haughty flicker
thorn thorn
#

Thats psychology

thorn thorn
radiant aspen
#

coz i aint tracking myself gang

balmy condor
radiant aspen
haughty flicker
radiant aspen
#

yeah im preatty bad at rouge i know i decided to main it and theres so many depth to this class

#

so if i vanish on cd

radiant aspen
#

thatl do it ?

haughty flicker
#

since you have prism i'd macro prism to vanish, and just press vanish every time as the global right before deathmark

#

no dont vanish on cd

#

use vanish every 3m

#

so on opener, 3m, 6m, etc

#

with your deathmarks

radiant aspen
#

ok so

#

i do opener i sned deathmark then i vanish

#

then next deathmark i dont coz i wont have it

#

and deathmark afther it 3rd one i send vanish

#

and i should prism with vanish only ?

haughty flicker
#

yeah treat prism as a 3m cd just like vanish

radiant aspen
#

ok

#

to make it more simple for me

#

death mark vanish then just deathmark then deathmark with vanish and prism

#

so every 2nd deathmark i do it with vanish prism

haughty flicker
#

pretty much yeah

#

do that and remember the shiv rules

radiant aspen
#

🫡 glorpingspree ❤️

haughty flicker
#

and should improve a lot

radiant aspen
#

ohh

#

ok

#

and shiv so durning deathmark i try to send both of them to cover

#

deathmark window

#

and on kb

#

i try to use it at end of kb

haughty flicker
#

yup

radiant aspen
#

thanks

#

alot bro

haughty flicker
radiant aspen
#

what a spiritual evening learning rogue from glorp

#

w class community

maiden sierra
#

in between the shitposting and ragebaiting, this class discord is one of the better ones for class info

#

but god is it also a great place for memes

thorn thorn
#

There is no god here just remember that

#

Only Whispyr

#

Which is all we need

maiden sierra
#

this made me chuckle

maiden sierra
#

i love my class discord god that gets bullied and ragebaited every day until he gets yet another mental breakdown and smites us all

latent kernel
#

The guide is very useful though

halcyon umbra
#

anyone have a weakaura/addon that estimates time till a mob dies/amps?

maiden sierra
#

honestly my favorite part of this discord is when new expansions/seasons come out and new people ask dumb questions and the old people ask even dumber questions to ragebait already angry whispyr

thorn thorn
halcyon umbra
#

would like to have something that helps me keep track of when i should be holding cd's

radiant aspen
#

my expirence here been amazing as new member and new to class

thorn thorn
#

Everybody knows he is smart, but they never make the connection its actually him

radiant aspen
#

people are passionate to teach u

#

it makes mre more passionate to play rogue

haughty flicker
thorn thorn
#

I cant teach shit

#

Unless you trying to play evoker

#

I can help you there

haughty flicker
#

ive just memorized like 5 things i look for in every log

thorn thorn
#

But otherwise im just a shitposter

haughty flicker
#

and if i dont see those problems in the log i say nothing

radiant aspen
thorn thorn
#

He just like me fr

radiant aspen
#

im not into furrys gang sorry

#

jk

thorn thorn
#

Hope you like feet then

#

Whispyr likes the feeties

radiant aspen
#

i do acctualy

#

alot

#

but im picky about them

maiden sierra
#

i used to help people too in the past, but decided that using my brain is wrong and i should only follow directions instead of making ones myself

thorn thorn
#

Whispyr can be summoned by talk of feet

radiant aspen
#

i mean i at least get what im doing on assa for now

#

but sub

#

ohh

#

thats spec needs bit more simplification

thorn thorn
#

Yea but consider the following:

#

Sub is cringe

radiant aspen
#

its unplayble for new players

thorn thorn
#

Have you considered this

haughty flicker
#

yeah i cant help there

#

i can play sub well enough but im lost trying to read logs to help people

radiant aspen
#

outlaw is my fav

#

im just waiting for midnight to play it

#

and assa is goated too

thorn thorn
radiant aspen
#

😄

maiden sierra
#

sub is honestly quite simple

maiden sierra
#

actually wait

#

addons are getting bricked

#

not sure if kaze will work next expansion

thorn thorn
thorn thorn
maiden sierra
#

almost as legendary as the whispyr vs zerros crashout

thorn thorn
#

Which time

maiden sierra
thorn thorn
#

Idk I like zeross BUT

#

he lost a lot of credibility in my eyes after he lost an argument to himself

radiant aspen
#

BTW why my sigil sims higher then araz trinket

thorn thorn
radiant aspen
#

sigil is 710 araz is 717

#

still sims higher

#

xD

thorn thorn
haughty flicker
#

does it count as account sharing if your multiple personalities use the same character

balmy condor
# thorn thorn

"zeross is me"
top 10 tuffest bars I ever read in my life

maiden sierra
thorn thorn
thorn thorn
#

My favorite quote of all time is still a Whispyr quote

maiden sierra
#

my favorite quote of all time is from gigguk: "sometimes it takes a real man to be best girl"

haughty flicker
#

still goes hard

thorn thorn
#

That line goes insanely hard

maiden sierra
thorn thorn
#

This one will be my favorite always

maiden sierra
#

the duality of man

split grail
#

Dumb question: I just do what the guides say and don't really look into the why most of the time. Why exactly do we Vanish with the fatebound st rotation, out of curiosity

maiden sierra
#

!fb

prisma monolithBOT
#

Only changes for fatebound are macroing cold blood to kingsbane and vanishing during the cold blood buff during deathmark in order to double flip coins. Otherwise regular rotation, finishers on 5+

Min-maxes currently only include using shiv before deathmark with the Fatebound 2 piece equipped in order to buff the coins. The 4 piece is worth using, and you will want an 1:30 trinket (lily or prism) to buff your deathmark windows accordingly.

balmy condor
#

HAH

#

WRONG COMMAND

#

LAUGH AT THIS USER

prisma monolithBOT
#

antennaglorp Vanishing On Fatebound antennaglorp

  • you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
  • this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
  • because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
  • edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
  • you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst
split grail
#

AH, thanks

haughty flicker
balmy condor
#

I can't wait

maiden sierra
balmy condor
#

to delete like

balmy condor
#

95 commands

#

going into midnight

#

like legit just sprint cleaning

balmy condor
#

delete every command

radiant aspen
#

welcome to club buddy

#

scroll up chat bit

#

i got enlighted

#

on that topic

maiden sierra
#

i miss it

haughty flicker
#

!whispyr

thorn thorn
prisma monolithBOT
#

FOTM Info

  • Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

  • Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

  • PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

thorn thorn
haughty flicker
maiden sierra
radiant aspen
#

fatebound is such cool hero talant sad it bad in aoe

thorn thorn
#

Maybe if it didnt nerf itself

haughty flicker
#

while i disagree with it being cool

#

i do have good news for you

#

because they're changing that in midnight so it doesnt nerf itself for free

radiant aspen
#

yeah people haveing mix feelings about midnight i suppouse

#

but for me casual

#

clases becomeing more simple so i can finnaly play outlaw

#

i hate addons use minimaly

#

its big w

thorn thorn
#

I just been enjoying all the WA cope I see on twitter on the daily

severe meadow
hot jay
#

the alpha changes make fatebound not hurt itself in aoe right

#

that's good at least

#

unless I read those changes after hitting the pipe

maiden sierra
#

i wish i read those changes after hitting the pipe

#

every spec is getting lobotomized

#

wish they posted those alpha news 3 days before my 1 year sub got charged

#

now im stuck for 1 more year

glossy dust
#

mybe the reverse it and make it unbelieveable hard to play

#

u nerer know

main bridge
#

It’s alpha bro that means everything is set in stone. GG go next

glossy dust
#

is it really that bad? are they like making it that easyto play?

#

ret level of play?

normal mist
#

Everything will be simpler yes

#

And I bet 100eur there will be people still fucking up the opener / rotation

glossy dust
#

ye but hw much

#

if u hear the people here and in other discords ud imagine every class has 2 spells left

normal mist
#

And it looks to be pretty much the same as it is now

glossy dust
#

so what are we crying about

normal mist
#

With core differences being like CT being a builder with IC

#

And bleed build being dead

#

And now we do pooling

glossy dust
#

i even heard pooling will make the spec somewhat more intresting

normal mist
#

We had pooling before

glossy dust
#

i remember it

normal mist
#

And people didn't like it either

glossy dust
#

but if iirc it was waiting with envenom

#

that was like the whole thing

normal mist
#

Now is waiting for multiple envenoms

glossy dust
#

will see when it comes out

thorn thorn
#

🥀

thorn thorn
normal mist
#

Yes

#

I just don't type

thorn thorn
oak tangle
#

I swear to god, when faced with a link to the correct channel, how do people persevere through and keep it rolling oblivious to the hints

maiden sierra
#

my favorite version of assassination in m+ is the current bleed build and in raid was the s3 dragonflight pre nerf where it was all about juicy kingsbane ramp, but even then i wished we had 1 more button in the rotation but it was fine.
since then they have been taking away buttons from assassination multiple times and now the current version of assassination is one closest to making me want to reroll main spec, seeing changes in alpha just kinda made me die on the inside as both parts of what i liked in the spec for both raid and m+ no longer exist.
you may call me a doomer, but honestly, i just think my version of fun simply did not allign with the direction the devs want to take assassination catgasp
i do pray im wrong, but devourer dh might just be good enough replacement bla

sudden mauve
maiden sierra
#

i like rampy specs

#

void meta sounds fun

balmy condor
maiden sierra
#

god bless the 2 button spec

#

if i was a fire mage i might have shot myself reading the changes garf_sit

#

no wait... the other rogue got perma benched... im stuck on rogue...

sick sail
#

assa will be fun, just use shiv then for that extra button LOL

maiden sierra
#

new talent idea:
double edged game of chicken: kingsbane ramps infinitely and last until the target dies, but you share the same dot damage from your targets kingsbane

#

surrender to madness garf_sit

#

(id like to mention for mentally challenged that this is a joke)

thorn thorn
#

Juicy kingsbane dammies

thorn thorn
#

i liked caustic spatter a lot more when kingsbane was better too

#

coincidence?

maiden sierra
#

bro a juicy kingsbane in aoe?

spice surge
#

I like when bleeds go brrr

maiden sierra
#

cums

maiden sierra
thorn thorn
#

i like when dots go brr

maiden sierra
#

me too

thorn thorn
#

but i liked when my 1m cd dot went BRRRRRRRRRRR

spice surge
#

But kingsbane is not it

#

Red > green for me

thorn thorn
maiden sierra
#

kingsbane > bleeds > ret pala > evenom pooling

#

i think energy is an outdated resource

#

like mana for casters

#

literally 0 good explenation why paladins do the same rotation as us but dont need to wait for energy

#

resource system like dk is a good one

#

oh fuck its 3:30am

#

gn

thorn thorn
oak tangle
thorn thorn
#

I speak facts

slim acorn
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
split grail
#

There's no log review channel here, is there?

main bridge
#

you're looking at it

haughty flicker
#

for your kingsbane outside of deathmark, only use one shiv

#

during the last 8 seconds of it

split grail
#

Oh, interesting. Thanks

haughty flicker
#

otherwise you seem to have the basics down its just that shiv usage was really trolling you

#

because it ended up swapping so you only had one shiv in deathmark and two outside

split grail
#

Is this becasue of the new kb cd witht the set bonus?

haughty flicker
#

its because of fatebound 4p yes

#

you dont have enough cd to use two shivs on both dm and kb, so you just use two to cover the whole deathmark

#

then one on kingsbanes outside of deathmark

split grail
#

Well that makes me feel better. That its only the one thing and I'm not a total fool

haughty flicker
#

oh another thing you did a couple of times

#

if possible try not to refresh rupture before spending both of your cold blood envenoms

#

you lose a bit of value by breaking the coin chain that way

#

very minor but also pretty easy to fix

#

like right here you'd ideally not have refreshed rupture before getting off that second envenom

balmy condor
#

I had to add cold blood blockers to all the rupture/CT lines

#

and it was like 2% across the board

haughty flicker
#

oh garf

#

ok yeah definitely dont do that then

balmy condor
#

its better to let rupture fully drop and envenom the cold blood stacks

#

than it is to rupture during cb

haughty flicker
#

at least i had the right general idea

split grail
#

I'm jsut happy people here are helpful. Some class discords are such shitheads

#

Ironically the poison spec is the least toxic

haughty flicker
#

as fatebound you want to use prism as a 3m cd

brisk ridge
haughty flicker
#

so just use it every deathmark you use vanish

split grail
#

So macro it into vanish

haughty flicker
#

ye can do that

#

if you do you'll want to press vanish before deathmark/kb

#

so prism buffs the coinflips

#

but otherwise plays the same

austere rose
burnt juniper
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

simple pumice
#

Hey so for pooling for either DM+KB or especially solo KB windows how much energy should I try to reach before I send. I tihnk this is my biggest issue for parsing on like plexus cuz sometimes even if I pool a bit I def dont get many envenoms to ramp KB

glad ferry
#

150

simple pumice
#

thanks so roughly half energy, Im also guessing thats with combo points prepped

oak tangle
#

only matters really for non dm kb

simple pumice
#

yea thats my main issue, the DM+KB juices my energy anyway

smoky sequoia
#

guys for bleed buiild any folks playing more haste for bleed ticking more?

oak tangle
#

I don’t look at my stats

red schooner
#

So that also helps with kb issues

#

I just don't know the timings for it exactly

oak tangle
#

You use EAB, step once and step the last second of cast

simple pumice
#

I usually shadowstep to shiv during the pushback I think its more the KBs after I get greedy with upkeeping twist the knife and run low for KB

red schooner
oak tangle
#

Also make sure your group gets it into 35% before shield

red schooner
oak tangle
#

Hmm, I’ve messed it up and ended up inside the orbs, still haven’t died

red schooner
#

It didn't go to plan and then the panic took over kekdog

oak tangle
simple pumice
#

5:32 was our second kill so prob not fast compared to better farm teams

simple pumice
#

o w Ill take a look

oak tangle
#

i think you should hold a dm

#

having that first prism dm be under 35% is big

simple pumice
#

me when I dont have prism garf

oak tangle
#

still worth to hold i'd say

simple pumice
#

Ya honestly Im comparing the 2 kills and the DMs were pretty much the same timing

#

its not like im parsing bad per se but Im trying to get up to like 90s

#

idk if thats even possible tho without like better ilvl and kill times

oak tangle
#

what % is the shield at 4 min dm?

#

could be an angle of it being 36% or something

simple pumice
#

ngl idk how to even check that on logs

oak tangle
#

link us yours

simple pumice
#

still learning the ropes been playing for like 2 months lol

oak tangle
#

i'll have a look

oak tangle
#

ohhhh

#

i know why

#

it's all to do with the turbo boost

#

extra ilvl, added raid damage buff

#

my 92 is now nowhere near a 92

simple pumice
#

yea I was thinking that could be a part of it lol

#

cuz some of my other parses were way better and were like the same rank

oak tangle
#

i haven't played my guy this week

#

all remix

simple pumice
#

my crests are already capped since I joined 2 weeks late into the season so ig just rip the optimal parses for 2 week until uncapped crests

oak tangle
#

you could also save pot for the 4 min dm, you may not get full value from the execute one, prism also woulda helped alot

#

also why no 730 dagger?