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FB macro to vanish, DS macro to DM

I got prism out of our last reclear
I was so happy dude
Lucky lad
i got H prism out of a weekly chest 
I'm running lily and sacbrood 
i see - was about to macro each but then if i spread bleeds with vanish id use it
don't remember much from s1
It's mid, better than most of the other equip options
yup, for M+ 100% macro it to DM
if you want to go DS fo soulbinder and bind it to vanish sure why not knock yourself out
theres no way around it to have it macrod on 2 things
but ideally you already know
or
i mean you use different macros
and just swap ability for macro where needed
ofc i was just thinking if i can somehow go around not having 2 vanishes 1 with macro and one without
the lazy version uknow
oh so you want to be able to vanish with trinket and without trinket but not having 2 buttons?
not necesarily like that i was just thinking what i could do
i mean if you are not using shared actionbars for every spec you don't have that issue
The DM macro isnt a problem since u can jsut vanish before DM
u have seperate m+ and st bars?
yeah
yeah makes sense actualy - ill just remove that option and swap one thing lmao what
doing all this thinking for nothing
if you want to setup a baseline with like utility/defensives/consumables etc
you can setup the baseline bar, activate shared bars on it first
ye thats what i mostly used it for
then set all other specs to shared bars, that will make them copy the first one
then remove shared from all of them and setup offensives separatelly
thats exactly what im going to do - thank yo uver much - m+ to DM fatebound to vanish correct?
correct
ty sir
for raid DS bind it to dm as well
as vanish is not part of your rotation on raid
unless you're on DHs but then you are just playing m+ build
no problem!
well im using fatebound for raid - i think that was supposedly the right build (other than caustic on some fights instead of IC) and m+ on soulhunters
as far as i know, we go DS for soulbinder
the rest is correct, FB for everything else except hunters
i'm not raiding for the time being so that may have changed tho
oh i didnt even know that - ill recheck and make adjustments
dope learned somenthing new
Heroic prob doesn’t matter, mythic is DS
and honestly with turbo it’s going to die so quick it might be a FB angle later
oh see then it was correct
i wonder how people came up with what to play on the two fights, seems so abstract
not that abstract, adds FB bad, no adds FB good
If adds die too fast because other people, maybe fb good
why not fatebound + caustic tho like on the other cleave fights

i tought that was like the whole point
cuz too many adds
of like having some aoe while being st focused
but not enough for m+ build like soulhunters? or is it the same build
ill go check actualy dafuq am i asking for

oh u cant see it from the guide its just a link
On heroic im barely getting to touch the adds on soulbinder
i wanna parse
fair
for early clears you got much more dps from ds than from fatebound
i mean i guess not that id knew why and what makes the diffrence exactly to soulhunters but thanks for telling
also 2 min cds line up better for the big break and you get DM KB with all adds up that gives you giga damage on the cs cleave
when does it change or how
but it may be better to go fb if adds are dying fast
don't know, as i said before i'm not raiding a lot atm
most i got was a pug 2 weeks ago where randoms couldn't even break adds out on the first wave
classic
yeah
but if your group ilvl is high and people are doing things right, adds should be dying fastish at this point
if not, you can just stick to ds so your lead doesn't bitch at you for not killing adds
they did die rather fast but id prob get cds off
but ye i see its basicaly st with caustig and soime extra dmg from DS
is the plague dmg a bleed?
for fatebound you´re also losing delivered doom when adds break out
and big aoe is important on that part so
but then it spreads thats prob the whole point
iirc envenom is also nature
yeah
the chat images arent fixed
|cffffffffTinterface/PVPFrame/PVP-Banner-Emblem-1:275:275:0-1|cfffffffft still shows a wheelchair
what is this
i saw some people on twitter with massive images on their screen
did they just do a league and chat can break other people's games?
What passive procs slice and dice for finishers?
ctts
cut to the chase iirc
I see, thank you
cut to the schase
the 4pc tier set is a buggy mess after having been noted as “fixed” in a hotfix note. It has a chance to double proc, not proc at all, and sometimes even proc in the middle of the fight and desync all your cooldowns.
this is still a thing right?
Yes the hotfix notes lied
so is there basically a 0 chance of any of the existing bugs being fixed due to midnight launchj
pretty much
i mean, it´s launching
anyway so
why would they bother taking time from midnight balancing if so much current shit is already fixed or going away on next expansion
hey guys dont know if this channel is the right one but for assa in legion remix what artifact tree i am taking?
I think fel is pretty universally recommended for DPS
then one that vibes right with you
the lion does not concern himself with remix optimization
i haven't played remix yet
will probly start next week
i'm so excited to actually play legion and not just blitz through the story quests
so fel tree?
Uhh, you're going to end up blitzing regardless
brother did you even read the patch notes
look at this nerd
"reading"
🤣🤣🤣
@balmy condor yo babe,about what time u streamin' tomorrow
(sry for the tag im at work)
oh yeah sry
Assa is disguting op in lemix
how impactful is following envenom rules for bleed build i.e. envenoming on 5 vs 7 combo points
Same rules as normal.
5+ normally, 7 for darkest night
erm thats not what i asked
I mean, why would you deviate from normal rules, what would you be deviating to, or you could just... do it as normal.
bro what are you even talking about lopl
if anyone has an actual answer to the question lmk
Your original question about the impact of following envenom rules, which, doesn't make sense.
dude youre so right lol, okay anyone have an answer
You dont consune stacks sub 4, you don't refresh the mark sub 6. The spender is entirely wasted if not following the rule
That good?
basically was just trying to figure out how much damage is lost/impact if i overcap
There’s not a static answer to this because of seal fate. If you’re losing 1 cp per whatever
But 3 every time
There is not a Sim for this, you're turning off your hero talent
Yeah it’s not good
no no, i dont mean im losing DS mark on target
So you just follow the rules
i mean say i apply deathstalkers
and i overcap combo points and do a 7 point envenom
Yes you’re losing finishers because you’re overcapping
instead of a 5 or 6 because i press mutilate twice
i understand that
Also no one knows the actual number
We don't know the % loss because... the sims are written assuming that the spec is played correctly. Nobody wrote a sim that plays wrong.
We don’t run simulations and shit just for fun to determine how bad an obviously bad thing is
So
That number just doesn’t exist
i understand that, i guess i was just looking for how much of a % decrease it is if i fuck up my rotation
No one has done that
for example in sub channel, they say macroing CB to ST is like a ~1% loss
was looking for that sort of answer
Yeah, we don’t have that
The only reason they know that is cause someone tested macroing it while they optimized the usage for cb and remembered it from their testing
No one’s ever just made the sim just finish on 7 just because
I would assume educated guess it’s gonna be like between 2-4%
But that would assume all finishers are at 7, not just sometimes
yeah this is basically what i was asking, i just wanted to see if there was a sim done or if anyone knew the outcome of that
thank you for giving an actual answer instead of "thing bad, dont do thing, why would you do thing"
I mean in 99% of cases, that is the correct answer
Most people just genuinely don’t know the rotation, and it’s not often people show up looking for a numerical answer to a niche and obviously incorrect thing
lol get owned
kinda based though
my question was literally worded so clearly lol
Is the reason bleed build has stayed the most used in m+ because of bugs with hybrid/cleave?
Okay fair enough
it is a 17% damage loss
the number was pulled from the deepest part of my ass
go do with it what you want

its crazy because you still answered the question more accurately than most people who tried
memeing keeps me winning
did he though
as far as im concerned, he gave a % and cited his sources lmfao
Your definition of accurate is kinda off
also there are a bunch of things to take into account if you want to come up with something near a %
no its not
agreed but lot of no life simmers out there, is it really crazy to ask if someone had simmed it before
there is no benefit to doing 7 cp over 5 cp unless you are reapplying dn
Yes
That’s an insane scenario to think of
When the same power can just be playing correctly
how is full capping combo points vs using envenom rotation an insane scenario lol
i wouldnt worry about it too much
first, for m+ most of your damage comes from bleeds, not from optimizing cp spending for envenom
also, it won't matter next season so
just always 5cp envenom
PSA i know its worse, i literally asked if there was a sim that showed a % decrease because i was curious lol
me af
if you have prism in raid do you use on every deathmark or do you use it every 3mins ?
Put it on vanish
So every 3m
Deathstalker: Bind to deathmark. Fatebound: Bind to vanish, use vanish before deathmark

I know what I meant

wheres all the know it alls when this guy said to bind netherprism to envenom 🔎



guys how can i make this like zero how many targets have i with bleeds ?
its a weakaura
you can import his weakauras, I think its in his discord channel
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
and you decided that this would be the channel instead of offtopic
yes
this is my blog
you know

make better decisions or I will make decisions instead
Don’t let Whispyr bully you, just kiss him
He’ll get flustered
Anyone... no...just me?
I did that on dimensius
In p3
Cause that fight takes forever
we love boosting
holy shit at this point they don't even need to get boosted they learned the fight
everyone decided to lock in
when he said
"cut is juicy"
kek
Atrophic just you😂
no more midnight alpha channel?
hm I wonder why it disappeared on me
the channel is nocturnal
discord is weird
@balmy condor wtb new friends
One of the new players told me that feral is one of the highest apm specs in the game
And they actually believe this
me when weakauras are gone and i no longer have the poison reminder weakaura 
Huuuuge!
Might not be the place for this question, but uh… For remix, the builds all seem weird from what I’ve looked through 
Has anyone found a standard one yet 🤣
There's a legion remix thread in general that may have answers! https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1425380978343284778
Thanks
no problem
im stuck in extendo land until dimmy dies so im farming heroic parses to feel something

Feral might actually be the lowest
It has the most downtime of any spec in the game
funny how one rogue bug gets fixed and now assa does decent damage in raid 
Did you say
gulps
Downtime?

I don’t even know what you mean by this
Also what are you gulping?
Also I switched to feral cause my wrists are old
His drink cause he can take his hands off the keyboard
“My wrists” unnecessary there king
just get lucky and roll lots of heads
simpol
no head?
Ignorance is bliss
The other new player told me frost mage is an rng spec

if i dont parse well its because of rng
Big true
Why Whispyr dont include how to be more lucky on his guides
He is trolling us
Cats tongues are so rough bro wtf
Maybe he’s into that
Not for long
just wear this lmao 🦐 issue

there's a thread in #wow-general for remix, would try that
Assa disc I love you guys you have been great to me during war withing season 2 and 3 everyone is so helpful and nice here! I've cancelled my sub for now I will be back for midnight even though I'm not thrilled about the direction the game is going I'm trying to stay positive. Thanks for all the help see you in about 5 months
See you around!
I get declined from +10-12 for crest/vault keys. Pug garbage fishing for their perfect comps lol
I think, in general for score/push keys, pugs will choose a hunter/DH almost 100% over this class regardless of spec. Sub probably has it a little better
I'm 722 and I got declined earlier too for a 10
now it might be that they were looking for a healer
but I call bs
it's just sin bias
Anyone know if you can feint the Fractilus spread circles?
you can



kek
Did you win bowling last night
Here then, special for you king
goat
guys what is ur opener , i ambush 2x garrote 2x rupture mutilate and crimson temp , continue shiv deathmark trinket pot spam envenom but I can see at most 20 m then my damage drops rapidly
I'm guessing this is aoe
but that sounds about right
ambush 2x garrote is weird though, that's giga overcap
should be ambush gar, 2x rupture, gar, mut, crimson tempest, cds
and you keep spreading garrote till everything has it
but 20mil and then damage dropping sounds normal
that's kinda just how burst works
wouldn't be burst if you sustained it
target change ? or only main
nah, just slam your main target
rupture 5 garrote 5 and i changed target
When there are too many mobs I change it to rupture and garrote

you change what to rupture and garrote
I thought you just said you're changing targets
Prove it
I guess the envemon spam
changing the envenom spam to rupture or changing the targets to envenom spam
but still not worth it after the 5 rup
like idk what we're doing
Pro tip use mouse over to spread bleeds better
can we just roll face on keyboard spam
we can delete all the mouse over in midnight
5 rupture - Should I spread more than 5 garrotes?
mouseover rupture is literally worse btw 
yes
Prove it
sure, you don't spread more than 5 ruptures, cause you're only doing it for scent of blood
if you mouseover, you don't iterate on deathstalkers mark
do u spread more than 5 targets?
Tf that even mean
for garrote, yes
I have a friend that plays with mousover disabled because they actually play worse somehow
why only garotte if u get free spreads from stealth anyway
well you need to hit your target to break down the deathstalker's mark, yes? If you mouseover, you aren't hitting your target, so you're not breaking down the deathstalker's mark
and you don't care about the 6th rupture
1 evenon+LOTS of caustic targets >>> 3 lousy ruptures
you only care about the first 5
stats is true ?
i have araz trinket
intresting - why is that tho ? iirc the dmg on both were pretty much the same only rupture could tick longer
scent of blood
You can melee your target but mouse over spread rupture
Like you’re not switching targets
i see so its strictly for scent of blood
Why does your screenshot have a crack on it
yes, but if you mouseover, you do not use rupture on your main target
you need to use a finisher to remove a stack of deathstalker's mark
you are not doing that with a mouseover
it might be lazy but cant u just spam main target anyway and it will spread itself
mouse addon 😄
remove 1 point from scent of blood and rupture 10 targets 
correct, that is the recommendation
i see and then after 2 ruptures u just use other finishers while spreading ruptures
cool good to know
you maintain CT and spam the hell out of envenom, yes
o7
Whispyr I have a meme(real) question for you from a new player
fok crits can generate combo points per hit because of the talent i forgot the name of
He wants to know if its better to intentionally hit less targets so he doesnt overcap

brother what
can u answer guys my stats true ? and i have araz trinket Should I use it?
yes the stats are fine you're just low ilvl, sim yourself
That was my answer too actually
He didnt clarify
He just asked if it was better to hit less targets so he over caps less combo points
So mouseover rupture bad what about garrote
then antenna-prism or araz-prism ? or antenna-lily
mouseover garrote is fine
What about mouseover CT
sim badd :()
real
I see, so you're just wasting my time trolling
could've just said that from the get go
why is it bad
Wanna see a top tier bait
masterbaitee
Bro my tank wouldn’t stop chain pulling so bad
I can't make the dps shown there 🙂
that doesn't make the sim bad
Sim crying please to see if optimal
how bout you learn how to do it yourself
Only if you are playing ret
that way you can check all the stupid shit you could ever want
But whispyr
Can I trust sims when it says ritual forge is better than prism in my 10 minute 8 target sim
10 min? might be too short
You heard him sim it yourself
Do 90 minute to account for typical keystone time
3
1
we have an upper bound, that's progress
3-9 keystone range is nightmare fuel
2-14 is nightmare fuel
Well 9-12 they start having some idea of a route but it just becomes an interrupt check
oh no ive had dps do tank dps in those
very often in fact
so often i dont do keys with pugs anymore 
I have a log of 80 deaths in a 7
Pug keys are fun sometimes bc shi just hits the fan so quick
With the context being that 3 of the 5 people are brand new to the game
And it was
Painful.
granted i have a new issue with doing keys with guildies
I had a Druid tank that routinely shifted out of bear form -> ursols-> regrowth lmfao
Was diabolical
they blast so hard that trash dies in 3 sec in +12. literally cant even apply my bleeds in time cuz ele shaman just pops everything
and they dont want to do anything higher than 12s...
it does not if you cant even apply your bleeds in time 
first pull of gambit makes me wish i was dead
those murlocks have no hp
My first 12 i healed was with a fdk otp and fury otp with an aug we picked up
Packs literally vaporized
yeah we hit the bonkers gear territory where anything under a 14 might as well not exist
i think the last gambit i did was actually sub 10 min run
im a fat liar it was 17 mins

i dont know what i would do without the wheel of making my life decisions
Mine would just be 6 slices that say legion remix
tbf one of those choices isint real
guess which

damn
real
tbf i like this set more than the last one
although the ballance does feel weird
ngl i first played a couple sets ago
got to masters
was hardstuck and realized i actually suck at the game
and havent been back since
Armin will cope with you it comes out before 2030
(It got scrapped for the second time last year)
"we want to restart development because we decided people dont want a wow clone with a league of legends skin"
mf thats exactly what i want
i belive in the 2030 release date
???
This is literally exactly what i want
what
how do you macro shadowstep to an enemy unit?
im trying this in my raid right now it isnt working
#showtooltip
/cast [@Duskblaze] Shadowstep
have you tried targetting a mob and pressing shadowstep?

#showtooltip Shadowstep
/target (name)
/Cast Shadowstep
/Targetlasttarget
Or you can set enemy to focus and cast @focus which works too
The last part is optional
If you are fully target swapping to the thing you are stepping to then remove the /targetlasttarget
This mf is the reason my copium order is late
smh
I have a habit of reading minds
Read my girlfriends when I ask her what she wants for dinner plz thanks
Im not third wheeling bro
tell me how can i improve
But just know
bit tips would be nice

she just wants to see if you can figure it out
your vanish and second shiv are both far too late in your opener
the correct answer is to feed her all day with thoughts of a specific food without her realising you are so that when its dinner time you will have mind controlled her into eating what you want
vanish should be used at some point between pressing shiv and using your last cold blood buffed envenom
u see good point coz i dont understand still

Rob what do you mean by that bro
in deathmark, use two charges of shiv to cover the whole thing
on your kingsbane outside of deathmark, just one one shiv during the last 8 seconds
that way you'll have 2 charges again for your next deathmark
and just repeat that
ok and about vanish i only use vanish to apply improved garrot
am i doing something wrong
? 😄
you send her indirect hints of a specific food all day, so that she has it on her mind and basicly mind = controlled
!dj
Vanishing On Fatebound 
- you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
- this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
- because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
- edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
- you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst
that explains vanish better than i can
Man
Thats not mind control

Thats psychology
Bel onlyfans leak 
yo is there addon or wa to track that edgeing this
coz i aint tracking myself gang
you don't have improved garrote btw

dont really need to track it, just make sure to press vanish every 3m at some point
yeah im preatty bad at rouge i know i decided to main it and theres so many depth to this class
so if i vanish on cd
thatl do it ?
since you have prism i'd macro prism to vanish, and just press vanish every time as the global right before deathmark
no dont vanish on cd
use vanish every 3m
so on opener, 3m, 6m, etc
with your deathmarks
ok so
i do opener i sned deathmark then i vanish
then next deathmark i dont coz i wont have it
and deathmark afther it 3rd one i send vanish
and i should prism with vanish only ?
yeah treat prism as a 3m cd just like vanish
ok
to make it more simple for me
death mark vanish then just deathmark then deathmark with vanish and prism
so every 2nd deathmark i do it with vanish prism
🫡
❤️
and should improve a lot
ohh
ok
and shiv so durning deathmark i try to send both of them to cover
deathmark window
and on kb
i try to use it at end of kb
yup

in between the shitposting and ragebaiting, this class discord is one of the better ones for class info
but god is it also a great place for memes
i love my class discord god that gets bullied and ragebaited every day until he gets yet another mental breakdown and smites us all
The guide is very useful though
anyone have a weakaura/addon that estimates time till a mob dies/amps?
honestly my favorite part of this discord is when new expansions/seasons come out and new people ask dumb questions and the old people ask even dumber questions to ragebait already angry whispyr
Whispyr is the tony hawk of class experts
would like to have something that helps me keep track of when i should be holding cd's
my expirence here been amazing as new member and new to class
Everybody knows he is smart, but they never make the connection its actually him

ive just memorized like 5 things i look for in every log
But otherwise im just a shitposter

He just like me fr
i used to help people too in the past, but decided that using my brain is wrong and i should only follow directions instead of making ones myself
Whispyr can be summoned by talk of feet

i mean i at least get what im doing on assa for now
but sub
ohh
thats spec needs bit more simplification
its unplayble for new players
Have you considered this
yeah i cant help there
i can play sub well enough but im lost trying to read logs to help people

😄
sub is honestly quite simple
actually wait
addons are getting bricked
not sure if kaze will work next expansion
Real ones remember when Whispyr had a cataclysmic level crashout at trolls in here and disappeared for a few days
i remember 
almost as legendary as the whispyr vs zerros crashout

Idk I like zeross BUT
he lost a lot of credibility in my eyes after he lost an argument to himself

BTW why my sigil sims higher then araz trinket
does it count as account sharing if your multiple personalities use the same character
"zeross is me"
top 10 tuffest bars I ever read in my life
if youre married to your alter ego then its not

One of my favorite quotes of all time tbh
My favorite quote of all time is still a Whispyr quote
my favorite quote of all time is from gigguk: "sometimes it takes a real man to be best girl"
yoink
Dumb question: I just do what the guides say and don't really look into the why most of the time. Why exactly do we Vanish with the fatebound st rotation, out of curiosity
!fb
Only changes for fatebound are macroing cold blood to kingsbane and vanishing during the cold blood buff during deathmark in order to double flip coins. Otherwise regular rotation, finishers on 5+
Min-maxes currently only include using shiv before deathmark with the Fatebound 2 piece equipped in order to buff the coins. The 4 piece is worth using, and you will want an 1:30 trinket (lily or prism) to buff your deathmark windows accordingly.
!dj
Vanishing On Fatebound 
- you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
- this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
- because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
- edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
- you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst
AH, thanks

I can't wait
to delete like

delete every command
!fotm
FOTM Info
-
Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.
-
Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group
-
PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.



Maybe if it didnt nerf itself
while i disagree with it being cool
i do have good news for you
because they're changing that in midnight so it doesnt nerf itself for free
yeah people haveing mix feelings about midnight i suppouse
but for me casual
clases becomeing more simple so i can finnaly play outlaw
i hate addons use minimaly
its big w
I just been enjoying all the WA cope I see on twitter on the daily
I need my 37 WAs to play
the alpha changes make fatebound not hurt itself in aoe right
that's good at least
unless I read those changes after hitting the pipe
i wish i read those changes after hitting the pipe
every spec is getting lobotomized
wish they posted those alpha news 3 days before my 1 year sub got charged
now im stuck for 1 more year
It’s alpha bro that means everything is set in stone. GG go next
Everything will be simpler yes
And I bet 100eur there will be people still fucking up the opener / rotation
ye but hw much
if u hear the people here and in other discords ud imagine every class has 2 spells left
I usually hang out in #midnight-assassination
And it looks to be pretty much the same as it is now
With core differences being like CT being a builder with IC
And bleed build being dead
And now we do pooling
i even heard pooling will make the spec somewhat more intresting
We had pooling before
i remember it
And people didn't like it either
Now is waiting for multiple envenoms
will see when it comes out
Rshams are the only people in shambles rn
🥀
Do you
@fallow canopy #midnight-assassination message
I swear to god, when faced with a link to the correct channel, how do people persevere through and keep it rolling oblivious to the hints

Being stubborn mostly
my favorite version of assassination in m+ is the current bleed build and in raid was the s3 dragonflight pre nerf where it was all about juicy kingsbane ramp, but even then i wished we had 1 more button in the rotation but it was fine.
since then they have been taking away buttons from assassination multiple times and now the current version of assassination is one closest to making me want to reroll main spec, seeing changes in alpha just kinda made me die on the inside as both parts of what i liked in the spec for both raid and m+ no longer exist.
you may call me a doomer, but honestly, i just think my version of fun simply did not allign with the direction the devs want to take assassination 
i do pray im wrong, but devourer dh might just be good enough replacement 
bro if you're looking for buttons, devourer isn't it
its not, indeed, but still 2x more than assassination 
i like rampy specs
void meta sounds fun
ain't readin all that, but maybe try fire mage






god bless the 2 button spec
if i was a fire mage i might have shot myself reading the changes 
no wait... the other rogue got perma benched... im stuck on rogue...
assa will be fun, just use shiv then for that extra button LOL
new talent idea:
double edged game of chicken: kingsbane ramps infinitely and last until the target dies, but you share the same dot damage from your targets kingsbane
surrender to madness 
(id like to mention for mentally challenged that this is a joke)
Amirdrassil sin was my favorite version of the spec
Juicy kingsbane dammies
🤝
bro a juicy kingsbane in aoe?
I like when bleeds go brrr
cums
me too buddy
i like when dots go brr
me too
but i liked when my 1m cd dot went BRRRRRRRRRRR
The council will hear of this.
kingsbane > bleeds > ret pala > evenom pooling
i think energy is an outdated resource
like mana for casters
literally 0 good explenation why paladins do the same rotation as us but dont need to wait for energy
resource system like dk is a good one
oh fuck its 3:30am
gn
Its really that simple
unhinged post to follow this
I speak facts
!wa
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There's no log review channel here, is there?
you're looking at it
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/KbkBXrMDw1Fdyzqm/GV4AfjF3K6aZ7Tbr?fight=24%2C24&source=14%2CRiften&type=damage-done&view=events Thoughts on why I'm only parsing a 48. I thought I was doing okay
for your kingsbane outside of deathmark, only use one shiv
during the last 8 seconds of it
Oh, interesting. Thanks
otherwise you seem to have the basics down its just that shiv usage was really trolling you
because it ended up swapping so you only had one shiv in deathmark and two outside
Is this becasue of the new kb cd witht the set bonus?
its because of fatebound 4p yes
you dont have enough cd to use two shivs on both dm and kb, so you just use two to cover the whole deathmark
then one on kingsbanes outside of deathmark
Well that makes me feel better. That its only the one thing and I'm not a total fool
oh another thing you did a couple of times
if possible try not to refresh rupture before spending both of your cold blood envenoms
you lose a bit of value by breaking the coin chain that way
very minor but also pretty easy to fix
like right here you'd ideally not have refreshed rupture before getting off that second envenom
pretty major actually
I had to add cold blood blockers to all the rupture/CT lines
and it was like 2% across the board
its better to let rupture fully drop and envenom the cold blood stacks
than it is to rupture during cb
I'm jsut happy people here are helpful. Some class discords are such shitheads
Ironically the poison spec is the least toxic
oh another thing i missed
as fatebound you want to use prism as a 3m cd
I think it's cause we have Bliz shitting on us with all the bugs, so we hav eto stay strong and stick together
so just use it every deathmark you use vanish
So macro it into vanish
ye can do that
if you do you'll want to press vanish before deathmark/kb
so prism buffs the coinflips
but otherwise plays the same
Surely with the simplifying classes there will be less complexity in design so bugs will be found/fixed faster... right? Right?
!tea
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
Hey so for pooling for either DM+KB or especially solo KB windows how much energy should I try to reach before I send. I tihnk this is my biggest issue for parsing on like plexus cuz sometimes even if I pool a bit I def dont get many envenoms to ramp KB
150
thanks so roughly half energy, Im also guessing thats with combo points prepped
only matters really for non dm kb
yea thats my main issue, the DM+KB juices my energy anyway
guys for bleed buiild any folks playing more haste for bleed ticking more?
I don’t look at my stats
On plexus apparently you can use shadowstep to just not get knocked back
So that also helps with kb issues
I just don't know the timings for it exactly
You use EAB, step once and step the last second of cast
I usually shadowstep to shiv during the pushback I think its more the KBs after I get greedy with upkeeping twist the knife and run low for KB
I tried it on reclear and got myself killed 
Also make sure your group gets it into 35% before shield
How’d you die?
Think I mistimed the last shadowstep, got pushed back half distance and ended up in a scuffed position
Hmm, I’ve messed it up and ended up inside the orbs, still haven’t died
It was a mixture of weird positioning and then panic leading to bad decisions on my part
It didn't go to plan and then the panic took over 
what's your kill timers? it could be a case of double kbing to hold a dm for execute
5:32 was our second kill so prob not fast compared to better farm teams
o w Ill take a look
me when I dont have prism 
still worth to hold i'd say
Ya honestly Im comparing the 2 kills and the DMs were pretty much the same timing
its not like im parsing bad per se but Im trying to get up to like 90s
idk if thats even possible tho without like better ilvl and kill times
ngl idk how to even check that on logs
link us yours
still learning the ropes been playing for like 2 months lol
i'll have a look
ohhhh
i know why
it's all to do with the turbo boost
extra ilvl, added raid damage buff
my 92 is now nowhere near a 92
yea I was thinking that could be a part of it lol
cuz some of my other parses were way better and were like the same rank
my crests are already capped since I joined 2 weeks late into the season so ig just rip the optimal parses for 2 week until uncapped crests








