you guys are hitting things before the pull gets gathered?
#assassination
oak tangle
oak tangle
how you applying mark
oak tangle
i mean that to me would imply not gathering pull if the prio mob has been pulled
little tulip
if you play blackjack are you ahead of the tank sapping random stuff?
even if they immune it does it still apply blackjack for example
cause you could just..combine it with that pickpocket macro and sap a whole pack going into a pull i guess
spice surge
even if they immune it does it still apply blackjack for example
It does not
little tulip
yeah i guess opening with blind on a first pack in a key is kinda cool and then just sapping stuff
oak tangle
i aint sapping shit tbh
little tulip
it's definitely undercooked compared to perma tricks send damage
oak tangle
where you getting perma tricks from
little tulip
heh yeah forgot this was assassin channel
austere radish
I understand with rupture, you recommend me to set every dot on & then vanish into miniboss to give him DM & prio dmg him with mark down?
funny enough i already tought that my shiv is not on time with vanish
midnight atlas
you shiv after dm with deathstalker
vanish is just to refresh bleeds and when you lose mark for some bug or mistake reason
little tulip
yeah losing improved garrote's 50% increased bleed on a deathmark is p bad
real pike
blackjack + airborn irritant
Yeah this is class
I always wait for pulls to be fully gathered before opening up
I'm aware it's less damage, I just enjoy it more
midnight atlas
blackjack better with pugs, tricks better with team in my experience
but both good overall, it doesnt help that guy that posted the log do rotation better
lilac tulip
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rotund oak
surely 
royal lantern
blackjack better with pugs, tricks better with team in my experience
why shouuld tricks be better "with a team"
rotund oak
why shouuld tricks be better "with a team"
set up pulls
midnight atlas
u ever pulled with tricks when tank is wheelchair ?
royal lantern
like, rn its tricks anyway cus the stupid cloak exists and can decide to nuke 300000m aoe dmg on your first ability which instantly rips aggro 
midnight atlas
true
grim jay
to gather,not help the tank tank
thats supporting a bad tank
real pike
Tbf there are times I wish I had trinks to throw a rogue knife at some nearby pack when the tank is pulling small or solo bosses
midnight atlas
dps mindset, good tank or bad tank tricks will always help
grim jay
dps mindset, good tank or bad tank tricks will always help
jokes on you, I do tank aswell
rotund oak
thats supporting a bad tank
95% of the people otu there are learning or just dont know how to play the game,ignoring basic knowledge etc
grim jay
and if the tank is good it barely does anything but prevent cloak
rotund oak
not actually something new
royal lantern
dps mindset, good tank or bad tank tricks will always help
if you think tricks helps holding aggro, you dont know how aggro works lol
midnight atlas
you guys are mental. i wont even bother
rotund oak
tricks cant help hold agro anymore,thats impossible
royal lantern
the only bigger "helping value" is if you actually pull for the tank
aka "stealth ahead and attack them"
midnight atlas
can't see a single point you just looking for arguments
grim jay
can't see a single point you just looking for arguments
obviously cant see a point if there is none
rotund oak
rotund oak
tricks sets up pulls for the tank,coz most tanks cant run or arent versatile enough as the rogue
its not wrath or cata or whatever
retail u have stuff critting for 10mil
tanks need certain dmg thresholds to just hold agro,its much more simple now
grim jay
if tricks is so good and helps so much, what do groups without rogues do?
golden loom
if tricks is so good and helps so much, what do groups without rogues do?
I am actually so bad at playing dh/warrior after playing rogue tbh
I just press eye beam get aggro and die
grim jay
well funfact, even if it were the case, missdirect is actually good
because the hunter does something
golden loom
especially with the cape now tricks feels very nice
rotund oak
hunters can do some bigbrain pulls
set up the trap md and pull into the trap
next lvl tech
coral ibex
i fully crash out if i die to aggro in dungeons so i always run tricks
grim jay
first and foremost the hunter can deal enough damage to redirect aggro
coral ibex
i will not wait to hit a pack
golden loom
i will not wait to hit a pack
💯
royal lantern
they play a hunter
(and then the hunter is bm)
golden loom
like ofc tricks doesnt give the tank some insane threat lead
grim jay
i will not wait to hit a pack
which is also a tank issue if it happens
golden loom
but it stops me from getting meleed from the 1 lil shitter they havent aggrod that I somehow hit
rotund oak
(and then the hunter is bm)
(doesnt BM have MD? 
)
golden loom
or like first pull of floodgate, aint no way I am doing that pull without the famous tricks evasion combo
royal lantern
(doesnt BM have MD? <:susge:878763556529664041> )
yeha but 80% of their dmg is pet dmg
and MD is only the hunter dmg
you misdirect the HUGE multishot/cobrashot dmg
grim jay
and MD is only the hunter dmg
if its a dark ranger BM he would still redirect more aggro than sin using tricks on pull 
rotund oak
and MD is only the hunter dmg
thats a fair point lol
golden loom
and then you dont even run multishot
rotund oak
give warlocks a misdirect
giving them a proper burial is best i can do as a rogue 
coz F locks
royal lantern
remove misdirect effects, so people stop being dumb about them
royal lantern
if its a dark ranger BM he would still redirect more aggro than sin using tricks...
gonna be real
if that Dark Ranger BS stays for long
im shocked
ok not really cus blizz is doing so many dogshit balance desicions in TWW, but you know what i mean
ebon steppe
Fuck blz
grim jay
gonna be real
its definitely wild. we did a 15 ara the other day for a guildie and there was a random 702ilvl bm key holder
he casually did 10,4m overall
as bm dark ranger with that gs
rotund oak
pressing kill command rly hard
royal lantern
turns out, giga buffing a hero spec AND THEN ALSO GIVING A HUGE AURA BUFF TO A SPEC AT THE SAME TIME is maybe not a smart idea
🙂
golden loom
dark ranger feels sick to play
I played it when I leveled my bm hunter in season 1 not knowing it was god awful
and now its big fun aswell
royal lantern
irrelevant patch,no one plays
little tulip
hold angle and just lawnmower anything that peeks
cause...once u got position u just win
golden loom
honestly even with bugs and whatever this season is fucking sick
I might be a bit too addicted
royal lantern
I played it when I leveled my bm hunter in season 1 not knowing it was god awful...
you know that its not the same as it was in S1 right
rotund oak
<:ionwut:482536516006969364>
vast patio
Bm is one of those specs I just can't understand how someone would enjoy it.
Mm at least feels nice at times
rotund oak
does massive amounts of dmg at all times and u dont even try to play it
has barely any rotation
quaint axle
does someone have a working plater skript or mod like this? this one wont work for me sadly.. maybe cause i dont have english client
https://wago.io/YgUum55L5
royal lantern
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royal lantern
whisps plater
golden loom
Bm is one of those specs I just can't understand how someone would enjoy it.
personally I am so melee brained that I cant stand still and cast so BM fits nicely
royal lantern
personally I am so melee brained that I cant stand still and cast so BM fits nic...
mf is acting as if casters in 2025 actually stand still for a longer time 
play mage and just jump around all the time aswell
golden loom
yeah but even 1 cast is too much for me 
rotund oak
mage needs to stand for couple of seconds for sure,frost the same
fire much less
casts a fireball every now and then thats all
basicly nvm,u can blink and still cast a 420 fireball
mage just too powerful
quaint spindle
Mm is super fun with DR imo. Too bad its not a rogue tho
red schooner
M+ tank trying to give me an aneurysm, tiny pulls AND doing the 'taking one low hp straggler into the next small pulls' thing
main bridge
M+ tank trying to give me an aneurysm, tiny pulls AND doing the 'taking one low ...
i did a key last night with a pug tank that never pressed thunderclap, only whirlwind. they also did this arena-like thing where they ran around corners to LoS casters, i guess? that was really fun on my shadow priest
it was frustrating and we were like 15m over the time limit
good story though
normal mist
I'll be honest, LoSing big pulls can be really good
Every goddamn mob will stack in the same place
main bridge
it can be but this guy was doing it over and over after the pack was gathered
which is....different
normal mist
That's... Dumb
The main objective is to gather the casters/rangers into melee range
And then blow them up
main bridge
yeah this person missed the memo about basically every tank objective
normal mist
I'm learning how to tank again as a monk, it's been fun and absolutely mind destroying
People don't kick, they don't cc, they don't press defensives
main bridge
yeah tanking is like being a babysitter basically, similar to healer
normal mist
As a tank it's been fun t to see people get blown up because they didn't do any of those things
vast patio
I'm learning how to tank again as a monk, it's been fun and absolutely mind dest...
I love monk tank so much r/n. Actually feels like a tank for the first time since bfa.
vast patio
The shado pan tier set is pretty peaj
normal mist
I freaking love it
vast patio
I just energy dump with sck and keg smash to blast aoe and reset with bob
vast patio
For isn't really the issue so much as just how slow ww is
Jesus christ autocorrect get one line right
But yeah I love ww, just tired of how neglected it feels. Brew seems to be in a much better place.
normal mist
That's what I keep reading as well
red schooner
i did a key last night with a pug tank that never pressed thunderclap, only whir...
This tank just... really liked packs of 3 mobs, no more allowed.
lilac lotus
Is there anyone that’s a simming god that can help me understand how to sim my char the correct way for dungeons? Or maybe an updated guide I can watch?
main bridge
Is there anyone that’s a simming god that can help me understand how to sim my c...
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/how-to-use-raidbots-and-run-character-simulations-6050
rogues use Dungeon Slice
hazy horizon
assa bug are fixed next wednesday right ??
normal mist
Absolutely
alpine glade
coldblood before or after kingsbane?
unreal tide
yes
prisma monolithBOT
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
alpine glade
thanks
real pike
FUCK deathstalker
lol wat
red sonnet
does anyone have a bloodhust custom music WA string?
blizz's bloodhust sfx is a bit boring..
red sonnet
ty
amber kelp
Hi! new to the discord! just curious anyone has any references or videos for reviewing logs? I'm struggling on my parses and trying to figure out wtf im doing wrong
main bridge
Hi! new to the discord! just curious anyone has any references or videos for rev...
for raid or m+?
alpine glade
any general tips for Plexus Sentinel on Mythic?
amber kelp
for raid or m+?
raid. I don't have logs for M+ yet 😄
golden loom
can just send a log here
spice spire
Hi! new to the discord! just curious anyone has any references or videos for rev...
Generally you want to look at cast sequencing, along with uptime on your bleeds + envenom, if that all looks okayish start looking at where you’re finishing, along with combopoints/energy usage (resources tab)
golden loom
this fella is gaslighting!
red schooner
I'll add, check when you're sending your cooldowns compared to some high ranking logs.
Lorrgs is a good resource for that, seen some logs here recently where people have been holding cds for a long while
spice spire
Generally I’d assume if people are asking about their damage numbers, they’re needing more than cd timings, but that is a good top
red schooner
Generally I’d assume if people are asking about their damage numbers, they’re ne...
I saw somebody hold deathmark for a full minute the other day
Which is kind of big
red schooner
Loomithar waiting for amp
red schooner
but they waited for a minute
spice spire
Dog 
red schooner
And fucked themselves out of an entire cd set
drifting cloud
Generally I’d assume if people are asking about their damage numbers, they’re ne...
tell me more about good top
red schooner
drifting cloud
red sonnet
https://wago.io/Pq8Xhp2_9
thank you!
im going to switch the bloodhust sfx to some good songs
oak tangle
https://wago.io/Pq8Xhp2_9
ty for this
spice spire
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1086436194059030568/1133102534815395900...
Jealousy is a disease get well soon
red sonnet
i put this song in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEmM3xYmjoI
only the intro 40 secs
rotund oak
I’m great at eating ass king pull up
drifting cloud
Jealousy is a disease get well soon
ty king
severe meadow
I’m great at eating ass king pull up
spice spire
fierce sigil
short question... does the Sim of Ritual Forge work? Sim says that my Lilys at same ilvl is better in single target. is that really true?
severe meadow
Are you simming for FB
severe meadow
Yeah Lily in general is really good
Forge better for DS imo, cooldown alignments and what not
fierce sigil
hmmm ok crazy ^^
severe meadow
You’d prob replace Lily with prism
pliant remnant
What is essentially a 3-minute trinket is worse than a 1 minute 30 second trinket?
coral ibex
fatebound is a 90s spec so a 2 minute trinket like forge is basically useless
pliant remnant
CRAZY
balmy condor
@haughty flicker 
oblique flare
severe meadow
balmy condor
Forge prism
severe meadow
The answer to all of our problems, forge prism
river acorn
in fb build what do we macro CB into? or do we not macro it?
grim jay
Wish I could forge a prism
red schooner
in fb build what do we macro CB into? or do we not macro it?
Macro it to kingsbane
vast patio
I may need a new nameplate setup.
severe meadow
in fb build what do we macro CB into? or do we not macro it?
KB, just make sure you’re slamming envenom after
river acorn
Aight
drifting maple
I may need a new nameplate setup.
Shrink the icons enlarge the numbers
So you hit harder
severe meadow
If you rupture after hitting CB Whispyr might have a stroke
balmy condor
I may need a new nameplate setup.
the floating numbers are sending me
as if there wasn't enough shit on your screen
267k RUPTURE
severe meadow
thorn thorn
I’m great at eating ass king pull up
thorn thorn
I may need a new nameplate setup.
Lad what on earth is this
outer lodge
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severe meadow
1-2 hours matching pfp prices are insane
hollow smelt
golden loom
Tracking fatal intent is very funny
balmy condor
severe meadow
balmy condor
its one of those things where the longer you look the worse it gets
hollow smelt
I love it
golden loom
are the gargons enraged?
thorn thorn
Nah
golden loom
cause I know who deffo wasnt able to kick a houndmaster cast in that case
marsh fjord
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1159545771998331022/1182291627151200296...
Why are you leaking my rates
spice surge
Thats why you need to use nameplate addons with a good profile
thorn thorn
I genuinely cant tell
I want to say its a WA that just puts it at the top of your screen
feral drift
thats a scary image
glossy light
i need this
severe meadow
Has to be a shit post bro
There’s no way he can genuinely play m+ like that, right
glossy light
right?
thorn thorn
Surely thats just deadly poison but the addon chose that icon for the instant damage part of it right
hearty seal
even the good plater profiles look like a chaotic mess
and this is basically unplayable
balmy condor
Surely thats just deadly poison but the addon chose that icon for the instant da...
yah, the way deadly poison is coded is that it's actually just the instant poison code + a dot
so like in logs
thorn thorn
Ok good
marsh fjord
When i started playing rogue i was wondering why my spatter didnt work
marsh fjord
was using the wrong poison
severe meadow
Stop looking at it xd
marsh fjord
He can fix that without a new plater
red schooner
Sometimes you just need more information on your screen.
feral drift
it could be much worse
coral ibex
mine isnt much better tbh
thorn thorn
there is anything worse
normal mist
Whispyr's one is goated
marsh fjord
midnight mist
I may need a new nameplate setup.
Hi, just wanted to say, this is one of the most dogshit plater profile i have seen since i started the game
thorn thorn
The homie zac even commented on it
marsh fjord
surely its because he is a outlaw main right? thats why his profile is like that
hearty reef
Huge ass corrupt the blood icon
vast patio
I had it on auto tracking every buff lul
vast patio
Surely thats just deadly poison but the addon chose that icon for the instant da...
IDK tbh but you can see deadly in the mass of horror
Dusting off assassination really uh, highlighted some issues though lmao
humble verge
frozen glacier
ancient ingot
guys someone know why cant skip Reshii?
vast patio
i think they moved the skip requirement to dimensius or something
ancient ingot
i think they moved the skip requirement to dimensius or something
wdym
vast patio
Did you only do the quest up to the dome part then stop
waxen oyster
What is skip reshii
vast patio
I think he means the cloak skip
So you don't have to watch alleria be cringe for 20 minutes on each alt
waxen oyster
yeah dont you just pick the
royal lantern
the
vast patio
You talk to the big spider boy yeah. But they moved the required quest so if he didn't complete it by now, could be that.
waxen oyster
oh that idk
ancient ingot
i dont have skip on him
normal mist
the skip quest to the cloak
you just go to the npc on the floating island
and ask him for a cloak
ancient ingot
they change it ?
normal mist
its been like this for a while
ancient ingot
i saw on video u can take reshi cloak on alt if skip quest on omen (big spider)
normal mist
just go to this place, talk to the npc where you upgrade the cloak
SHOULD give you the option for a cloak
ancient ingot
just go to this place, talk to the npc where you upgrade the cloak
im on him and i cant take anything
normal mist
^
ancient ingot
maybe you didnt pick the skip option
but this option on spider guy should be
ancient ingot
i dont have skip on him
on him
waxen oyster
I mean normally when you first enter the zone
the guy offers you to skip the intro
or do it
if you already started the intro i dont think you can skip
partway
ancient ingot
im just do normally and enter portal
after complete quest and on him i dont have skip
waxen oyster
i mean if you did any of the intro quests you cant skip
ancient ingot
on the video u mean?
waxen oyster
Idk what you’re saying
normal mist
after complete quest and on him i dont have skip
did you complete the campaign atleast once on your 1st character?
ancient ingot
did you complete the campaign atleast once on your 1st character?
4/5
oh i found, u should have this for skip
normal mist
oh, nice
waxen oyster
without phase diving unlocked
waxen oyster
yeah that was a given
ancient ingot
but i get phase dive without all questline complete or i cant understand what u mean
vast patio
Does cassualaddict have his plater posted anywhere?
I've been browsing, just havent found anything I liked yet. Lot of them are too bulky
lost nexus
Man... I wish Blizzard would to an older patch featuring Nozgrad's Deluge of Toxins
vast patio
Have you tried whispyr's?
I think I did in s1 but forget why I didn't like it, so might go again
I really like the bars on mine but the buff tracking is obnoxious for a spec like assa
lunar pond
Personally like Shindig's, which is just a slightly modded jundies profile. I added some additional mods for names and things to it. Not a fan of the animated ones (or w/e), like I think Whispyr's has the rotating/blinking health bars for certain bleeds/debuffs, unless i am confusing it for some other one
I like color coding for priority targets, etc. rather than for caustic or the like. It's all preference though
outer lodge
Anyone have a weakaura for garrote and rupture that shows the number of bleeds currently on targets and the number of targets? like 2/3 3/4 etc?
normal mist
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maiden sierra
I hate your damage numbers
normal mist
I hate you
vast patio
I use naowh's ui but I actually really hate his plater lol
normal mist
You'd think i look there anyway
vast patio
Like the plater equivalent of comic sans
normal mist
(i was trying to check what was changing my dmg numbers but can't find anything)
lost nexus
lethal lynx
How much damage do you guys do in ST boss fights in M+?
balmy condor
3.2ish
lethal lynx
I guess I'm doing something wrong then
I did 2.45m on 3rd boss in ecodome, about 3.2m on the first two
vast patio
I thought mine was low but 3.2 sounds about right
balmy condor
I guess I'm doing something wrong then
are you going into the boss fight with deathmark available
are you vanishing on your deathmarks for improved garrote/master assassination
are you double shivving your deathmarks
lethal lynx
oh ig that's true I should save my deathmark on the pack before bosses
I think so for the other two
just not having two deathmarks is awful ig
normal mist
Just saved another rogue from crafting an intellect weapon
Amen for being a BS on my alt
balmy condor
just not having two deathmarks is awful ig
deathmark is your entire damage window ye
lethal lynx
also I'm a little confused, when I have Darkest Night does spending it asap with envenoms take priority over EVERYTHING?
balmy condor
yes
lethal lynx
because I'm guilty of sometimes reapplying a 5 stack CT for example
balmy condor
well, in aoe you want to at minimum get rupture up for caustic
cause like, if you don't have caustic up
the darkest night envenom won't splash
and that's shit obviously
but aside from that, yes
lethal lynx
feels weird to let dots drop off for it but ig it makes sense
balmy condor
yeh I mean the envenom itself hits harder than the entirety of the dot
and you get the mark up
which is giga
humble verge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYfe9caNqfA man this makes me wanna go back in time and play D2 again
thorn thorn
Just saved another rogue from crafting an intellect weapon
Sorry but I gotta post this one everytime I see someone crafting an int dagger as a rogue
normal mist
Sorry but I gotta post this one everytime I see someone crafting an int dagger a...
As you should
runic hinge
Not me crafting an int dagger for a special visit
earnest remnant
Just saved another rogue from crafting an intellect weapon
id let them craft it
learn from your fuck ups
normal mist
This one learned from a good experience :3
thorn thorn
runic hinge
quaint nimbus
main bridge
jaunty sky
quaint nimbus
coral ibex
so its likely my guild is gonna do mythic dimmy with only 1 lock for reasons, how feasible is it to just shadowstep the boss for that? that puts you directly in front, no?
if i end up on the no lock side
thorn thorn
marsh fjord
hope i dont just get yoinked immediately
You can cloak the winds and it won’t push you back if you didn’t knew
thorn thorn
pearl mauve
when do I send Shiv as Fatebound ST ? First one before Deathmark, then one at the end of Kingsbane and right after deathmark ?
desert crest
Right after first shiv ends
Dm makes kb do more dmg so we want to have 100% uptime on shiv in dm
compact glacier
!wa
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pearl mauve
Dm makes kb do more dmg so we want to have 100% uptime on shiv in dm
ok so not having shiv during last ticks of KB is not worth during DM. and the KB without DM we send at the last 8s ?
balmy condor
with vanish on fatebound, with dm on deathstalker
versed mica
with vanish on fatebound, with dm on deathstalker
So we delay it in opener like with vanish??
versed mica
oh shit u right
im high idfk
Is there a macro section on the wowhead guide? Or is there another place I can find a list of em?
balmy condor
!macro
prisma monolithBOT
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
versed mica
I !prism'd when I should have !macro'd 
balmy condor
I mean there's no prism macro
versed mica
Oh, should I not macro it with vanish?
balmy condor
you can if you want I guess
versed mica
Well maybe I shouldn't, might want to use prism if the boss dying before other things come off cd
pearl mauve
you vanish before dm
do we gain anything but ambush with vanish ?
balmy condor
!dj
prisma monolithBOT
Vanishing On Fatebound
- you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
- this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
- because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
- edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
- you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst
versed mica
Wait, so we vanish BEFORE kingsbane, right?
balmy condor
versed mica
Then why does wowhead guide for sin have you using KB before vanish?
balmy condor
the next flip after kb is an edge-case flip
versed mica
in opener
pearl mauve
Then why does wowhead guide for sin have you using KB before vanish?
bc next 2 envenom with cold blood will edgecase
versed mica
ohh
okay word
this is all so convoluted for an essentially passive hero talent tree lmfao
balmy condor
it really isn't
versed mica
well to my 3 hours of sleep ass it is 
balmy condor
the hero talent does nothing outside of deathmark/kingsbane
when you deathmark/kingsbane you flip fancy coins
vanish flips extra coin, so you want to flip fancy coin instead of regular coin
coral ibex
balmy condor
when you have cold blood, you're flipping fancy coins with envenom, so you don't want to rupture
and that is
literally the entire hero talent
coral ibex
man i just wanna envenom
versed mica
I'm just glad I don't have to deal with being dumb and losing deathstalker's mark due to weird mechanics
with the exception of bosses where I have to use stalker, anyway
ember mural
fancy coins mama mia
thorn thorn
https://tenor.com/view/salty-raining-salt-salt-bae-nusret-g%C3%B6k%C3%A7e-gif-15...
I dont do animations but I got this
versed mica
I dont do animations but I got this
Hell yeah
maiden sierra
High rolling coins is the best feeling ever
But once you get that high any normal rolls makes you numb
And your fun is now completely depending on rng
I think i have an gambling addiction
Which would explain the millions of gold i lost in deathrolls
Its fine, every lost deathroll is just rng saved for coin flips
humble verge
maiden sierra
I always wondered what tayaki tastes like
humble verge
I always wondered what tayaki tastes like
amber brook
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
maiden sierra
I dont use any of them because it takes ages going through them all
I dont get how you do it uber
humble verge
slim copper
quick question. Some people got LoS from healer on loomi... how?!
balmy condor
you can outrange healers if you're soaking on the other side of the arena
maiden sierra
You can also out range a healer if youre 25 yards away if your healer is a scaly
harsh anchor
call out you're soaking and pretend to soak, kill boss, profit
vast patio
Quick question since it's been a bit, on a particularly big pull, how much do I really want to commit to bleed spreading before I start really hammering the caustic envenoms?
and crimson ofc
I think I might be overdoing it and wanna double check
severe meadow
Important part is having ruptures up
Sometimes you can get a lil unlucky and slam a few on lil shit mobs that die really quick
maiden sierra
Is giving your useless coworkers a "get better soon" card inapropriate?
vast patio
It's funny as fuck so probably
vast patio
Important part is having ruptures up
Do don't stress improved garrote too much after the max ruptures are out?
severe meadow
I use it as a combo gen sometimes, just kinda depends I guess
vast patio
Mostly how I do it, but I probably focus too much on spreading it over getting into the caustic slamming
runic hinge
imp garrote on everything 5 ruptures that will last into envenom
sleek spear
Guys I'm trying to impress my raid leader tonight for mythic raid trials.
We are doing Loomithar, Soul Hunters and Fractillus heroic.
Should I stick with sub for all 3 fights, or switch to assas to look better on the DPS meters?
main bridge
if you want to impress your RL you should focus on mechanics and playing the best profile for each individual fight
vast patio
Be a chad and beat the bm hunters as outlaw
buoyant herald
Not sure the game is designed for this to be possible
vast patio
Anything is possible with a firearm, dice and booze
sleek spear
if you want to impress your RL you should focus on mechanics and playing the bes...
So I was wondering for the 3 fights Loomithar and Fractillus. Assas is better overall right ?
I know for Soul Hunter, sub probably better
main bridge
i think that depends on your skill level with each spec and the duration of the fight for your raid
buoyant herald
If I have to pick one spec for all 3 I’d probably take assass
But yeah that depends how good you are with each
main bridge
the simple answer really is playing whatever you're best at
buoyant herald
Yep; play for comfort and do mechanics right
amber brook
Sub is better on hunters?
last falcon
unborn rain
yeah just bench me for soul hunters lmfao
glad ruin
I'm having a hard time finding a good hero weapon as my second weapon. Should I craft a second weapon? And what should it be?
unborn rain
I'm having a hard time finding a good hero weapon as my second weapon. Should I ...
dont craft a second weapon
youre gonna set 60 crests on fire
glad ruin
okay, thanks
balmy condor
I envy people who think they can feel things proccing
what's it like to be wide eyed and full of imagination
earnest remnant
I envy people who think they can feel things proccing
you telling me you feel nothing when you proc and extra nuggie at mcd?
balmy condor
I don't count
burnt star
Feeling more crit without checking detail is another lvl indeed
astral current
severe meadow
!forgeprism
balmy condor
!kms
severe meadow
little tulip
ye just did a quick 13 db with a tank doing chains on adds with 5% rather than strong opening
ended up wanting to !kms
waxen oyster
im slowly preferring sub in db
vast patio
ye just did a quick 13 db with a tank doing chains on adds with 5% rather than s...
Pain
hidden beacon
Sub damage profile feels perfect in DB
Can assa expect any bug fixes at this point or is this it for the rest of expansion?
vestal granite
Been playing Fury warrior lately
and the bug that has been around for over a year where your bladestorm macro straight up doesnt work is still in the game
very similiar to the cold blood bug
dragon bars resetting been in the game since dragonflight launch
still unfixed
and the list goes on forever
runic hinge
These bugs aren’t the most impactful things in the world and they don’t make the spec unplayable so with most dev time probably spent on the .5 patch and midnight id say it’s a bit wait and see
vestal granite
these should be fixed immediately based on how trivial they are, and they are very impactful I have to relog everyday or add clunk to my button bloated aaction bars and remember everytime that there is a chance my macro wont work
it straight up got me killed in dimensius too coz it did the wrong thing into the comet
marble hemlock
you telling me you feel nothing when you proc and extra nuggie at mcd?
What about ordering fries but you proc an accidental curly fry
earnest remnant
That is bis
sleek spear
for assas, why do we cast Vanish as Single Target build with no master assasin?
sleek spear
!jp
marsh fjord
Bot down
sleek spear
!JP
marsh fjord
But it’s for jeopardy
Read in your hero talent
It basically makes it so they both coins get rolled
sleek spear
OH RIGHT got it
runic hinge
OH RIGHT got it
!dj
prisma monolithBOT
Vanishing On Fatebound
- you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
- this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
- because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
- edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
- you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst
runic hinge
sleek spear
<:antennaglorp:1410496077362364549> **__Vanishing On Fatebound__** <:antennaglor...
if DM is on cooldown, and we have kingsbane up, do we x2 Shiv?
vestal granite
on Fatebound with 4set we use one shiv during second half of kingsbane
sleek spear
heroic lily is ahead of my champion netherprism for pure patchwerk.
should i trust the sim?
vestal granite
you need the other shiv during next deathmark
zenith elm
I envy people who think they can feel things proccing
i have a WA who tells me when i'm empowered
so i know 😄
runic hinge
heroic lily is ahead of my champion netherprism for pure patchwerk.
should i tr...
The thing is the sim will hold prism for max stacks on the 3 min vanish/dm and lily will get another use at 4:30 so it can look better on a 5 minute sim. If you sim for how long your boss kills are generally you might see a difference
sleek spear
got it tyvm guys, ill trust the sim. most heroic boss kills are under 5mins i think
runic hinge
Which means prism might hold up if you’re killing the boss near the end of your 3 minute cds
Can try a few different fight lengths to see
sleek spear
Which means prism might hold up if you’re killing the boss near the end of your ...
my last guild loomithar kill was 3mins 35 seconds
does it make sense to use prism then?
runic hinge
does it make sense to use prism then?
It would because your 3 min cds with vanish and fully stacked prism in execute would blast
sleek spear
It would because your 3 min cds with vanish and fully stacked prism in execute w...
oh right got it.
the difference between a champion netherprism vs a heroic netherprism is only 0.6%
let me save prism for big execute phase on loomithar then
runic hinge
You can sim a short fight length too to see if it beats a lily in the shorter fights
sleek spear
let me sim a 4min fight and see the results
do we use ironclaw whetstone or algari manaoil? or its very minor
sleek spear
You can sim a short fight length too to see if it beats a lily in the shorter fi...
lily is still ahead for me
4min sim
oak tangle
@runic hinge i just wanna let you know that since installing that pedro lust my keys have been far more enjoyable
potent lintel
I have soleah technique, signet of priory, pacemaker, crystal of anub and antenna at 710ilvl. Signet and soleah sim the highest despite being lower in trinket rankings?
normal mist
That's why we don't give a shit (for the most part) about tier lists
dawn seal
what was the command for chian pulling
normal mist
!chainpull
prisma monolithBOT
Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:
- For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
- Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
- Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
- Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
- Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
- You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
normal mist
I have soleah technique, signet of priory, pacemaker, crystal of anub and an...
Can you link the sim?
potent lintel
Can you link the sim?
cyan summit
!shiv
prisma monolithBOT
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
cyan summit
So I shiv before or after death mark ?
normal mist
Tricky question, but after I guess. M+ is the wild west
cyan summit
When would u do it before ?
normal mist
That's not really a sim, that's a photo
normal mist
When would u do it before ?
Between CDs but since you're specifically asking during CDs, I'd say after dm
potent lintel
That's not really a sim, that's a photo
You want the sim code?
normal mist
I want the sim link
cyan summit
So when ur DM is on CD you can use it twice or should I save 1 stack of shiv
normal mist
You can use it twice yes
cyan summit
Ok ty @normal mist
normal mist
That's a... 20 seconds sim
astral sandal
potent lintel
Whats default?
brave stump
5 min
potent lintel
Ok
marsh ferry
i see you're in m+ build. you can also sim dungeonslice
potent lintel
I only do m+
normal mist
Dungeonslice is then your default sim
marsh ferry
btw you might want to swap Momentum of Despair to Follow the Blood, because momentum is bugged
normal mist
That's what my wife says about me
potent lintel
Lol even in a 3min fight which is average for mist mythic plus bosses signet and antenna top rankings followed closely by signet and techniwue
normal mist
😂
normal mist
Lol even in a 3min fight which is average for mist mythic plus bosses signet and...
Just do a dungeonslice sim
sleek spear
does this mean that if i already have 3 tails, and i vanish.
the next envenom with 5cp will give me 2 tails = total of 5 tails?
balmy condor
depends if you're matching the last flip or not
potent lintel
signet and antenna makes sense
Not sure why signet has b ranking
balmy condor
!dj
prisma monolithBOT
Vanishing On Fatebound
- you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
- this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
- because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
- edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
- you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst
balmy condor
Not sure why signet has b ranking
cause there's multiple trinkets that are better
balmy condor
but it's a tier list who gives a shit what it says
it's literally there for noob bait
potent lintel
cause there's multiple trinkets that are better
Does better necessarily mean sim better?
balmy condor
yes
normal mist
- whispyr, the guy forced to do said list.
cyan summit
!meld
brave stump
Whispyr the noobbaiter
potent lintel
Thats my point the 2 trinkets on "A "list sin less than signet on B lisg
brave stump
master of his class
normal mist
No meld command
normal mist
Thats my point the 2 trinkets on "A "list sin less than signet on B lisg
The two passive ones?
balmy condor
Thats my point the 2 trinkets on "A "list sin less than signet on B lisg
what are you talking about 
you didn't sim any trinket that competes with signet
cyan summit
Anyone has a macro for night elf stealth ?
brave stump
i mean in his 20seconds sim he doesnt
normal mist
(I didn't open the link yet)
oak tangle
Anyone has a macro for night elf stealth ?
what does this macro do?
normal mist
Meld stealth
oak tangle
cause you cannot meld stealth on a boss
cyan summit
what does this macro do?
I think meld into stealth , works when ur in combat sometimes
Yes not on boss , on m+ adds
oak tangle
i don't even know if a macro actually works in that case
brave stump
sometime it does
cyan summit
It does I’ve seen ppl use it
brave stump
sometime it dont
oak tangle
i know you can restealth, but i dont remember the macro ever working
balmy condor
wahoo
look at that
you sim a trinket that actually competes with priory
and it wins
cause priory isn't the best trinket in the slot
brave stump
Where did you pull that
oak tangle
if so it would be
#showtooltip
/cast shadowmeld
/cast stealth```who would've thought
normal mist
You can either get lucky and stealth, and not get lucky and just meld and look like a nerd
cyan summit
Even if it’s myth priory? @balmy condor
cyan summit
if so it would be
```
#showtooltip
/cast shadowmeld
/cast stealth```
Thanks
sleek spear
<:antennaglorp:1410496077362364549> **__Vanishing On Fatebound__** <:antennaglor...
my lily seems to seem better than my netherprism is that right?
cyan summit
You can either get lucky and stealth, and not get lucky and just meld and look l...
Ye was hoping I could find a macro that makes it work better
balmy condor
Even if it’s myth priory? <@167090536602140682>
the cool thing about this question is you can sim this for your own character rather than pinging me and hoping I can read the tea leaves of fate and destiny to answer your question
oak tangle
what about the tea leaves of fatebounf
potent lintel
you sim a trinket that actually competes with priory
I dont have astral. Im referring to the trinkets that I currently have
oak tangle
and tell me how many tails flips i'll get tonight
brave stump
balmy condor
I dont have astral. Im referring to the trinkets that I currently have
okay, what part of "competes with priory" is confusing
brave stump
whispyr is getting ragebaited
balmy condor
walk me through
brave stump
balmy condor
where are you getting lost
potent lintel
where are you getting lost
I have 5 trinkets. 4 "A trinkets and 1 B trinket The priory ( b trinket) sims higher when paired with any A trinket vs any 2x A trinkets paired together
balmy condor
yes
that is how on-use trinkets work
when you're a burst spec
having a trinket that buffs your burst
is kind of important
antenna, so'leah, sacbrood, crystal, wahtever fucking passive shit you have
does not compete for priory's spot
that is just how that works
they are different slots
brave stump
on demand steroid > 2 passive drip feeder
potent lintel
that is how on-use trinkets work
Ahh ok makes sense
sleek spear
can someone help explain this to me like i'm 5 years old.
i read the talent multiple times,
and still have a hard time understanding what it means to flip 2 coins guarantee to match the same outcome.
so if i have
1 heads
1 tails
i will get
2 heads
2 tails after breaking stealth?
balmy condor
no
well, depends what your next flip is
but lets say you're in the middle of nowhere in your rotation
no cds
and you're like
3h0t
then you vanish
you will either go to 5h0t or 0h2t
sleek spear
you will either go to 5h0t or 0h2t
OHHH
i get it
but with edge case how does that change?
balmy condor
well if you're guaranteeing the next flip to be an edge case
you instead flip an extra coin
so 2 edge case
indigo crystal
Let's say I'm stuck at 6 CP, do I do another mutilate to get full CP and then send Envenom or do I send Envenom at 6 CP?
sleek spear
when i press deathmark
i get 2h2t right?
then i press kingsbane = 4h4t
then i press vanish and do a 5CP Envenom and now i can either get
6h 4t OR 4h 6 t? did i understand correctly now
balmy condor
when i press deathmark
i get 2h2t right?
then i press kingsbane = 4h4t
then ...
no
in that situation you would have cold blood, so your next flip would be 6h6t
if you didn't have cold blood, you wouldn't match the previous flip
so you would go to either 6h0t or 0h6t
indigo crystal
all finishers at 5cp
Tyty
balmy condor
double jeopardy does not match anything other than itself
sleek spear
so this talent basically matches my 4H 4T and buffs it to 5H 5T and then 6H 6T (on the 2nd cold blood envenom) ?
balmy condor
so unless you're guaranteeing your next flip to be an edge case
it's basically just 2 regular flips
balmy condor
so this talent basically matches my 4H 4T and buffs it to 5H 5T and then 6H 6T (...
yes
like lets say you vanish before you press your deathmark
so you vanish -> deathmark
sleek spear
yes
ohhhhh! im getting it now.
just trying to understand why we are vanishing since we already have cold blood
balmy condor
your first flip after breaking stealth flips two coins
so you vanish -> deathmark
deathmark flips 2 coins
they're both edge case
the first one instead flips 2
so you go to 3h3t
whatever the outcome of the next flip is, double it
so if it's some random fuckass flip from a rupture in the middle of your rotation
it's either heads/tails
then double that
sleek spear
im assuming this rotation now in pure ST.
Deathmark = 2h 2t
Kingsbane + Cold Blood = 4h 4t
Vanish = ?
Here's where i got confused. What happens to 4h 4t after pressing vanish?
sleek spear
okay so my next flip is a Cold Blood Envenom 1)
sleek spear
what's the outcome of that envenom
Cold Blood Envenom 1 = 5h 5t right?
balmy condor
now double it
sleek spear
and then we stack the vanish buff on top of that
Cold Blood Envenom with Vanish buff = 6h 6t?
balmy condor
yep
sleek spear
then Cold Blood Envenom 2 = 7h 7t, thus proccing our lucky coin and trigger 4 set?
balmy condor
well
yes, but you're not at 7h7t
you'd be at either 8h7t or 7h8t or 10h7t or 7h10t
but yes
that's the jist of it
sleek spear
you'd be at either 8h7t or 7h8t or 10h7t or 7h10t
OHHHH I GET IT NOW!! thank you so much.
so if im at 7h 10t for example, do I want to let the buff automatically fall off?
because if i do a random 5 point rupture it might flip me back to 1h 0t for example
balmy condor
no
sleek spear
since now i have no edge case, no cold blood, no deathmark, no kingsbane
balmy condor
if you rupture you would go to either 8h0t or 0h11t
you have 7 heads, 10 tails
you can only flip heads or tails
so one of the chains will be maintained
but to answer the question, no
there is no gameplay around the coins
sleek spear
so i went from this tails, after my kingsbane + cold blood combo ended
balmy condor
yeah
sleek spear
7h 10t to 8h
balmy condor
np
sleek spear
i finally understand
light bulb moment ❤️
the whole coin thing flipping was so confusing at first
balmy condor
aside from knowing when to vanish and making sure you edge case flip with cold blood
there is 0 things to think about it with it
and since cold blood is macro'd
you basically just envenom twice after every kingsbane (which you probably would've done anyway 90% of the time)
and uh
that's the hero talent
I'd argue the most interesting thing about fatebound is that it's 1:30 with the tier set
if it weren't for that, it would just be entirely passive
sleek spear
aside from knowing when to vanish and making sure you edge case flip with cold b...
got it!
so vanish on the 1st deathmark / kingsbane, and then the next vanish is at the 3min mark right?
balmy condor
ye
sleek spear
and my sims for 5min patchwerk shows heroic lily ahead of my champion netherprism by 0.7%.
in this case usually just follow sim recommendations right?
balmy condor
correct
sleek spear
you basically just envenom twice after every kingsbane (which you probably would...
whew, so the spec isn't as difficult as i imagined. kept thinking i had to play around the coins
balmy condor
prism is simming a little weirdly and should get fixed in the coming days
but 0.7% is big enough to where that change won't really affect you
sleek spear
but 0.7% is big enough to where that change won't really affect you
got it, ill stick to lily and macro it to deathmark then.
as for envenom, i should be pooling energy all the time to maintain 2 stacks right?
and try not to auto proc thistle tea
balmy condor
no
auto-proc thistle tea all you want
and you don't need to track envenom's buff really
the only time it matters is that you should envenom before kingsbane
but that's kinda just automatic
sleek spear
the only time it matters is that you should envenom before kingsbane
oh got it. so the spec basically plays by itself in single target? :"D
get the ST rotation right, then just maintain buffs.
ignore thistle tea auto proc, ignore envenom buff uptime
edgy spindle
im assuming this rotation now in pure ST.
Deathmark = 2h 2t
Kingsbane + Cold B...
where am i able to see a skill sequence like this one?
sleek spear
incredibly braindead spec
Time to impress my raid leader tonight on single target.
My aim is to beat at least 1 frost dk and 1 fury warrior on plexus lol
I was struggling as sub on ST
balmy condor
where am i able to see a skill sequence like this one?
he took that screenshot from the wowhead guide
balmy condor
Time to impress my raid leader tonight on single target.
My aim is to beat at ...
good luck
warped marlin
Hey there, i dont know what to craft. my lowest gear is the off hand dagger. Can i wear two of crafted dagger at same time?
normal mist
You can yes
but you can also sim your character and see if crafting an OFFhand is worth it over another slot
offhand is the lowest priority
radiant yoke
why am i getting desynced from my trinket sometimes with fatebound?
like im getting too much cdr on my deathmark/kingsbane
lily 90 sec cd
normal mist
bug
tidal spoke
why am i getting desynced from my trinket sometimes with fatebound?
The better bug is when kingsbane and deathmark are desynced 🥳
red schooner
FB desyncs, just use cold blood as your timing reference
radiant yoke
is it from the delay in the coin animations
red schooner
is it from the delay in the coin animations
Yup
radiant yoke
so, should i slow down my opener to guarantee it works properly
or just pretend it's still following my trinket/coldblood
sleek spear
can shadowmeld be used on the 2nd deathmark at 1min30s to act as a "vanish" after kingsbane has been used a 2nd time?
jolly stirrup
Ok i thought reading through the 200 messages would take longer, but skipping Whispyrs Yapping helped
(I read all of them, pls no ban)
normal mist
can shadowmeld be used on the 2nd deathmark at 1min30s to act as a "vanish" afte...
no
royal lantern
can shadowmeld be used on the 2nd deathmark at 1min30s to act as a "vanish" afte...
no
shadowmeld is no stealth
shadowmeld is shadowmeld, which is a different effect
normal mist
because its not stealth
it seems ferals have it better
i've heard it counts as "stealth" for them
lost nexus
Golly, it would be totally grand if Blizzard added Loko's Smart Knife back into the game.
royal lantern
it seems ferals have it better
ferals also have 0 real stealth interactions
1 dot is stronger when used from stealth and also stuns, and thats it?
the spec has no way to stealth mid-combat afterall
normal mist
@shrewd night just to be sure, does being a nelf for shadowmeld has any interactions with feral or i got baited?
shrewd night
It has an interaction that your rake will deal more dam, but its not something to play around
normal mist
got it, thanks
covert bronze
would love to see a use system on IC for M+, some time the amount of Chain pulls in a dungeon Vanish (even with the 2 charge talent) isnt always enough to get the full effect from IC in every fight, doesnt have to apply the IG as you wont be coming from stealth but not having to worry that the tank wont allow you to re enter stealth when you are out of Vanish charges would be nice
normal mist
would love to see a use system on IC for M+, some time the amount of Chain pulls...
It is only a problem when the tanks don't know how to chain pull
you don't NEED to stealth every pack
royal lantern
and evne then its not a real problem
lusty kraken
would it be that broken if IC didn't require you to stealth?
covert bronze
would it be that broken if IC didn't require you to stealth? <:garf:132017303274...
wasnt broken when it was an on use ability not requiring Stealth
covert bronze
yeah, currently has a 45 second CD
storm forum
Iirc, we paired it with shadow dance, it was lit
red schooner
It is only a problem when the tanks don't know how to chain pull
Eco-dome tank yesterday only pulled 3 mob groups AND did the 'imma walk one low hp mob into the next pack' thing
It wasn't a fun dungeon.
covert bronze
currently there is no cooldown
does have a built in CD looking at the tool tip
onyx coyote
Eco-dome tank yesterday only pulled 3 mob groups AND did the 'imma walk one low ...
every pug i've been in does this
normal mist
does have a built in CD looking at the tool tip
yeah no
it activates every time you stealth
lusty kraken
giving bladeflurry to every spec is already a mistake
normal mist
BRING IT BACK
desert crest
We kinda just need 1 more way to activate stealth
ebon steppe
they need to stop this mixing of rogue specs
I don't care about it that much here and now
Just fucking do something
desert crest
Doesn't really matter how
Like simply having meld kinda fixes all issues
given that it works
covert bronze
yeah no
when I get back to my PC (currently on tablet while cooking) I'll check using Vanish inbetween 2 bleed casts on the 5 target dummies, if all end up with bleed then tool tip is wrong
spice surge
Well yeah murlok is wrong
copper hazel
no need to check
covert bronze
well I'll check it out, I use Murlok, Warcraftlogs, Wowanalyzer and wipefest to go through my logs and reference what others are doing to improve
red schooner
You... don't need to check it out. It has no cooldown. Please.
covert bronze
you're ragebaiting
so I shouldnt be using these tools to help improve my game play?
copper hazel
if its giving you misinformation, no
desert crest
U should git gut
normal mist
I'll bite the ragebait
covert bronze
then please ref tools I should be using