assassination

[worldly bridge]

or cd after soak

[golden loom]

I mean sending on pull allows you to not miss a kingsbane cast

Cause you get a kingsbane cast before intermission that would otherwise come up as you are hitting a pillar

But if you wanna padd on adds or whatever you can hold but just sending on pull and on cd lines up very well

[worldly bridge]

yeah i've tried a couple times delaying but it feels weird

[red schooner]

Requested the soul hunters bench, and I'm in on soul hunters. Fuck.

[static glacier]

does cheat not work on saladbar

p1

or what

it never saves me from getting 2x claw hit

[thorn thorn]

You died

[minor dagger]

!wa

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[worldly bridge]

i dont get it, sometimes it lines up perfectly during intermission and sometimes i either hold cds for 1min or send in intermission and dont have it for first amp

[humble verge]

love pressing BS/SS @maiden sierra

[thorn thorn]

What is this

Showing how many keys are used a lot?

[humble verge]

just tracking keypresses

[static glacier]

or like laser ticks or pretty much everything

i swapped off it

fight is too painful

[pure moth]

Are you guys stacking them or something? If I see someone running with me I cloak it.

[static glacier]

its v rare

bju

but it just doesnt do shit

for anything

except platform cast if it goes off

[frozen glacier]

@humble verge feels like you are forced to play sub in 16+'s is that your experience too? Getting like no invites as ass lol

[maiden sierra]

we have the same keybind

mmmm, monkey

[sly spoke]

absolutely no invites here as well

[vestal wren]

think subtlety does shadow dance the best

[maiden sierra]

does sub do anything well?

spec is ass

press 2 buttons over and over

[waxen oyster]

avoid being parried

[maiden sierra]

out of all the types of blade flurry

sin does it the best

god i hate sub and outlaw blade flurry

[vestal wren]

its the most fun spec of rogue

but i am sure you want to bait

assassiantion got a more thought through bf implementation for sure

[humble verge]

no youre not

[vestal wren]

i wish subtelty had a better one that did not feel like a bandaid

[humble verge]

just git

[vestal wren]

but dev time is limited and i assume this was the best they could do with the limited time they had

[waxen oyster]

i love coup cp delay

definitely doesnt make me want to flame a dev

[vestal wren]

i mean you could consider it a bug too

^^

[waxen oyster]

what causes it

[vestal wren]

i don't know blizz internal but i would say some sheduling problems

the refund should be instant

[waxen oyster]

i love when i press storm between coups

and i just get refunded late

:)))

[vestal wren]

i am personally also not sure the 1.2 sec cooldown is intentional, but thats harder to lable as a bug

given that it could very well be seen as a implementaiton detail

[waxen oyster]

cringe if it is

with how tight on gcds sub is

imo

[vestal wren]

its just the combination

[golden loom]

1.2 sec gcd feels especially weird on outlaw aswell I assume

[vestal wren]

having 1.2 sec gcd 2 times and then delays on every refund is very tight and often means you lose a gcd

[golden loom]

Considering everything else being 0.8

[fickle herald]

Is there any way of mitigating the chance of not getting cdr on assa abilities

Just missed a full deathmark and kb on fractilus

not getting the cdr

[golden loom]

Just dont bug lol

[waxen oyster]

play a class devs give a shit about

[vestal wren]

rogue might get a lot of updates in the next xpac

but who knows

[waxen oyster]

caustic renamed poison flurry

[vestal wren]

besides that, bugs are baseline for all classes in the game

sublety had their worse bugs for years

and still has a massive list

don't know for outlaw, would need to ask solo, zac or someone who keeps track

[waxen oyster]

sub has never not had bugs

[vestal wren]

its the burden of knowlage

many of the bugs you would not notice if you didn't know

especially damage bugs

this is why i think the gameplay impacting ones are those which needs fixing

e.g. the fatebound tier cdr bug

or the shadowcraft refund one

[waxen oyster]

the rogue dev went to work on player housing

[vestal wren]

haha

he needs to bring a lot of houses for all the rogue rerollers

after presenting the insane changes we get in the next xpac

[waxen oyster]

when was the last time rogue actually had alot of rerollers

i feel it was bfa

[vestal wren]

think assassiantion had a lot of tiers now people actively rerolled to it

[waxen oyster]

I meant to the class

[vestal wren]

especially closer to patch releases because of how high the aoe of the spec was tuned

[waxen oyster]

assa is just baseline the easiest and most effective rogue spec

imo

[static glacier]

it's the most accessible rogue spec gameplay wise

[vestal wren]

its not only that

like assa just whiped the floor with everyone else on ptr in m+

and thats the main content creators do before a patch release

[waxen oyster]

”my boss damage”

why everyone hyper fixateson st is beyond me

[vestal wren]

this tier subtlety looked great, but also in part because of many factors you rarely have

like a op trinket (netherprism)

[waxen oyster]

i think double on use will fall off

with more aura buffs

and turboboost

[vestal wren]

and i think we already see sublety fall off a bit, because adds die quicker when gear goes up

on top of obviouse boss nerfs

[clever sparrow]

Those webs will summon nerubians

[waxen oyster]

i got my brannmorpher

[vestal wren]

will be interesting to see how it develops

[waxen oyster]

now i can be brann in raid perma

[vestal wren]

real talk

rogues should get together

and organize a "infinite holiday trip" for bran

[waxen oyster]

the toy is great

you periodically say his lines

while morphed

[vestal wren]

lovely

i rly wish you could just dissable him

[static glacier]

tbh isn't sub one of the fastest specs regarding outputting dps

at minimum we get sectec and 1-3 coup and eviscs

or is the issue adds dying before even getting to melee

[vestal wren]

you ideally would want to have adds survive long enough to be up for more than a few sec

so you can actaully ramp your damage

[waxen oyster]

Yeah

or line up so spawn is when you launch

the second secret

[steep bobcat]

i run out of energy in st how can i fix that

[static glacier]

It’s a shame for sure

[main bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[static glacier]

If you don’t get 2nd dance off

On adds

[merry sparrow]

afk

[static glacier]

But the flip side is despite our dps being backloaded it’s still bursty enough that I doubt you lose out to a ton of specs for add pad

Ele for sure wins

But like all mages lose if it’s not like arcane soul arcane

Locks is just ruination, if they have it gg

[novel star]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[novel star]

you cant

[static glacier]

Spec outlaw

Sin and sub are doomed

[waxen oyster]

the low apm is great

lets you flame the rest of group

[lavish wing]

u get to kite antenna orb for the next mutilate 😄

[thorn thorn]

Arent you supposed to be gato player

[static glacier]

Nah, last time I came close to being a feral main was end of legion, guild wouldn’t take me as resto and asked for me to play balance, said ok but I only have feral Legos and I’d swap to boomie lootspec - never swapped to boomie lootspec and just played cat in antorus kekw

Was still resto main though, managed to get in as resto for hasabel and absolutely rinsed their entire healing team

[thorn thorn]

[thorn thorn]

Why is your pfp gato if you dont play gato

[real pike]

what the fuck is this sub chat

[ancient ingot]

guys what can happened if i kill boss and dont have him on warcraftlogs?

[waxen oyster]

sin dead pack it up

[ancient ingot]

i kill another one after him and i see, but this one befor - no

[normal mist]

people probably didnt log it

in case you didnt

[waxen oyster]

or it isnt livelogged

[ancient ingot]

and now it won't show up anymore?

[waxen oyster]

Well someone had to log it

else it doesnt show on wcl

[ancient ingot]

sad

[waxen oyster]

or just run your own logs

i just dont care enough about heroic to log it

or normal

[ancient ingot]

i first time kill king) im interested

[static glacier]

Cute gato is me irl

[vocal cradle]

can you cloak the wall on plexus?

[main bridge]

try it and see

[nova gust]

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[pure moth]

Yes

[humble verge]

you can also just step the boss if you want

if hes not close to the wall

[solid hemlock]

💀

[humble verge]

what

well

its just life impact

[pure moth]

Wait what? Through wall?

[humble verge]

yes you can just step him

[vocal cradle]

thanks for the info

on another note, when playing FB if your cds desync is it worth sending them without CB up or wait to get them back on trakc?

[humble verge]

just send kb

[pure moth]

Thats 100x easier. If it doesn't do damage to

[humble verge]

and then wait

[eager bough]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177769187926626334/1361814601922248945/index.gif

[thorn thorn]

Who deep fried this gif

[buoyant herald]

Then left it in the oil

[latent kernel]

is nether prism or ritual forge better

and do you macro both to deathmark

[tawdry halo]

Is this for raid or M+?
netherprism typically better, but depends on ilvl of each trinket, so also sim yourself

for raid you play fatebound so netherprism is definitely better assuming you have 4pc

[latent kernel]

m+ sorry

[latent kernel]

do you macro both to deathmark

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[tawdry halo]

yeah just macro to deathmark

and if its m+ then sim it using dungeon slice and see what comes up

[latent kernel]

gotcha gotcha looks like nether prism boss man thanks

[tawdry halo]

[vocal cradle]

can someone tell me why im ass ? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PT6L4ybJGBqcCDh2?fight=92&type=damage-done

[astral current]

too lil mastery mate

[main bridge]

I don’t think it’s going to be a stats problem

[vocal cradle]

yeah lol

im ass

i saved big cds for the wave of ads

so i honestly dont know what im doing wrong

[buoyant herald]

Are adds dying before you can do much? That’s usually the answer on add fights

[main bridge]

It’s hard to parse on that boss because the adds get insta nuked

[buoyant herald]

Yeah if everyone is also holding CDs for adds then you’re kinda out of luck

Almost every spec is burstier than you

[glass fulcrum]

when they nerfing the belts?

[main bridge]

11.2.5 or something

It’s on wowhead

[waxen oyster]

At that point its whatever

since should have a myth belt by then

+extra ilvl

[tawdry halo]

Without looking at the adds, your opener is a bit scuffed (should be envenom > DM (and trinket) > Shiv > KB and then shiv when the first one fades

You also don't dry shiv

[vocal cradle]

it feels like they are up a decent bit

[tawdry halo]

your cast order at ~2min CDs is also a bit off

You're doing decent caustic spatter damage though and you're holding CDs for 4min 30 so that part is good

[vocal cradle]

will adjusting my order of operations so to speak make up the difference?

[main bridge]

It certainly helps

[tawdry halo]

yes it should

also a bit rough that theres like 1-2 mobs in each add phase that are off in narnia for some reason

so thats less caustic damage for you

[gilded star]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[vocal cradle]

with the antenna do you guys just let it hit your do you move to it like the transmitter?

[balmy condor]

#subtlety

[strange moss]

oh soz

[night summit]

is there a way to use unyielding netherprism properly or just on CD? I have two on use for raid sadly

[coral ibex]

bind to vanish for fb, dm for deathstalker

[balmy condor]

Two on use

[night summit]

do i use with a certain amount of stacks +

[lost nexus]

Does anyone know why Blizzard remove Nozgrad's Bottle of Liquid Knives? I found it was an important ability for maintaining ranged uptime

[cunning needle]

[thorn thorn]

What

[main bridge]

that person just RPs in here periodically

that's their bit

[coral ibex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1172832306793287730/1416983233442222142/all_baddy.png?ex=68c8d3f9&is=68c78279&hm=33093adad3108d148898f677915dbeeb47d872ea6749fb73db9183e193fcef48&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=845&height=594

guy in my guild's alt heroic run tn

7.5k on dimmy goes hard

[main bridge]

they died right?

[thorn thorn]

Its so bad its almost intentional

Also

How is 7.5k on dimmy a 2

[knotty vapor]

is there a consensus on bleed build vs regular deathstalker cleave for soul hunters

[main bridge]

you can check what the top parses are doin https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/rogue-assassination/the-soul-hunters

[knotty vapor]

i sure can

alrighty then

bleed build it is

[cunning needle]

[thorn thorn]

I have been informed this is called a purchase

[waxen oyster]

did guy get a free carry

[round cypress]

Hi all, how do you play around the 4P CDR issue ?
Do you sit on KB waiting for CB or do you just send it and sit on DM for the next KB ?

[tawdry halo]

align KB to CB always

[static glacier]

I just hold kb for cb

Unless you want a headache

[tawdry halo]

and align DM to KB/CB

[waxen oyster]

you just pretend it didnt happen

and cuss blizz

[static glacier]

It actually throws me off sometimes

[waxen oyster]

yeah it fucks with my flow

[static glacier]

When I realise I sent a cbless kb

Lily cd is also useful for orienting dm

[waxen oyster]

i only find it good

when it desyncs in the end

to give me another dm

[static glacier]

Ye

Kekw

[waxen oyster]

that i shouldnt have gottten

[round cypress]

Yeah ok, I was just sending it thinking more usage, even if less optimize, was ok

[static glacier]

It can be, hard to say

[tawdry halo]

CB is super important for getting lucky coin

[waxen oyster]

i hate this timeline

[static glacier]

But it just kills any consistency you’d have for what and when you’re doing damage

[waxen oyster]

we're trying to optimize

around a bug

[tawdry halo]

so you risk not getting it when you need it

if you flip bad

[unborn rain]

green parsed on mythic soulbinder 😼

[cunning needle]

should have padded harder

[true tide]

Playing assa on Nexus king and god I just feel so squishy

[earnest remnant]

Only thing that should really hurt you is banishment

Unless u are just rawdoggin the soak and claws

[true tide]

It's really just a few times I'd miss my feint on soaks and get actually one shot where other people don't need to press anything to live fine

[jolly stirrup]

Only times I died on that boss was when we were there the first times and didn't do enough damage in Intermission, and one time before Damage Amp because my fat Panda ass was standing in front of the dragon and got beheaded

[true tide]

Sounds like I just gotta get gud and hit my buttons then

[earnest remnant]

Soak also should not 1 tap you

[jolly stirrup]

I don't press anything on soaks and I am gucci

What's your general Ilvl

[earnest remnant]

So unless you Got beamed or had the dot at the same time

U should live it natty

[true tide]

Soak + 19 removals was doing 13.4 total and I have like 13.6m hp we don't have pally and I haven't sent this week of crests if that matters

With no feint when I panic'd and didn't press

[jolly stirrup]

@balmy condor Prost

[jolly stirrup]

I don't know what went wrong, just from my experiences the Soaks do little to no damage to me

Or just not noticeable

[true tide]

Welp il have to see next week tonight was our first pulls on M saladbar

[jolly stirrup]

Oh idk about mythic sorry

At least in HC it didn't do shit

Sorry

We clear HC again tonight and move into first Mythic pulls, I am very hyped, gonna be my first time raiding mythic

Time to get removed from Mythic roster because my performance sucks

[zenith elm]

Oh good luck mate !

[jolly stirrup]

Tyty

I don't worry too much about the full ST bosses, I am just not performing well on AoE Bosses, especially Soulhunters

[sly ginkgo]

Afternoon Steathies. New to rogue here. in a HRaid team. I seam to have low dps (just above both tanks) and it sucks. I know i need to make sure garote and rupture up whilst using mutilate and envenom when i can +other spells. ex kingsbane, shiv with tea , etc..... I'm making sure i keep out of the shit on the floor as well as trying to maintain the rotation, but i constantly find myself at the bottom. why??? im using the fate spec for 1,2,6,7,8 and death for 3,4,5. any tips you legends could offer would be awesome. im using consumes at rank 3 too. https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/frostmourne/anthrãx Wow Analyser is not updated for 11.2 so i am unsure as to what is going wrong. I know ill never be top dps but i do want to be better Thank you for reading this yall. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jPWbZrxD2pKayY9v

[jolly stirrup]

Any Logs?

[sly ginkgo]

added. I know dieing will be low dps 😛 i used to play range.

[keen spruce]

I'd review the opener / rotation on wowhead. I'm just spot checking things and it looks like a lot of stuff is out of sorts

[oak tangle]

your opener is poop dawg

[true tide]

The biggest thing I see at a glance is make sure to get the opener from wowhead down

[keen spruce]

stuff like this

is a big indication that there's a lack of understanding of the fundamentals

[jolly stirrup]

Ye mobile view is ass

[sly ginkgo]

Thanks all. i know im new to it so any helpful comments like above helps. Thanks

[jolly stirrup]

Vut what the others say

Your opener is really bad

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[coral ibex]

definitely review the wowhead guide its very detailed

[jolly stirrup]

Check the WoWhead guide

[oak tangle]

the most important part of the guide for what you're currently messing up in opener

[keen spruce]

yeah there's not much secret sauce or anything. Just get the fundamentals down. Then make sure you're generally using your CDs on CD

and minimize downtime on the boss

try to always be hitting it / casting something

[zenith elm]

you only need to pool last 4 sec for KB

thats all, the rest you can send

[oak tangle]

i mean hitting it (melees) yes, but casting stuff is overrated Xd

don't cap cp, don't cap energy, do whatever meets those criteria

[jolly stirrup]

Even if it feels shit, always spam Mutilate Envenom, running out of Energy is our design

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[oak tangle]

i prefer to stay mid range energy, cause i know exactly when i can cast things

[sleek spear]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[coral ibex]

!loot

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1405681489470951594/sin_.webp

[hidden inlet]

will singular focus ever be fixed this season

[sly ginkgo]

Ty all for helping. i really appreciate it.

[zenith elm]

No

[oak tangle]

does it really need to be fixed?

[zenith elm]

for raid? yes but that wont happen

[oak tangle]

does it though

[cyan lily]

No rogue fix lol

Crazy

[oak tangle]

sin bois out there doing fine with it bugged

people just want excuses

[jolly stirrup]

What exactly does Singular Focus do and how is it bugged?

[cunning needle]

[coral ibex]

it funnels damage to your target

[oak tangle]

the bug is that it is not takign into account caustic spatter damage, it funnels into a single target with plague damage

[zenith elm]

it does 5 percent of your dmg not on your marked goes on your marked target

[coral ibex]

and caustic is not doing that

[zenith elm]

but it doesnt work with main AOE tools for raid

[oak tangle]

if i were to guess why it's bugged, is some feedback loop shit

so at best it's 5% of like 30%, you can do the maths on how impactful it is

[zenith elm]

but its on 8 targets and its 40

so it can be quite impactful especially on raid

[oak tangle]

what do you mean, target count is irrelevant

look at how much overall percent your spatter does on those fights

and multiply it by 0.05

that is how much you lose to the bug

[zenith elm]

on raid fights ?

[oak tangle]

whispyr's araz logs

27.8%

rank 2

[zenith elm]

You dont take into account tier set of DS and the DS talents which augments a lot more nature dmg

[oak tangle]

it's plague

[zenith elm]

tier sets augments those by 50 percent, envenom does a shitton more dmg and so caustic spatter is even bigger

[oak tangle]

rank 1 deathstalker log

caustic is lower

[zenith elm]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yfYTqg2mn7zAjMZD?fight=16&type=damage-done&source=28

on true DS builds

[jaunty basin]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

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[zenith elm]

araz is biased bc adds can die WAYYY too fast

[oak tangle]

133k dps

in an 9m parse

[zenith elm]

200k but ye

[oak tangle]

how 200?

[zenith elm]

like i said, tier set matter

50 percent on all DS talents

[oak tangle]

from wha

[zenith elm]

tier set of DS

[balmy condor]

Erm

pushes up glasses

AKTUCLALLY

pulls snot up my nose

licks lips seductively

[zenith elm]

now i'm hard

[balmy condor]

It’s 5% but it’s buffed by mastery and tier so it’s actually quite a fair bit more than that

Especially when you consider that most of that caustic damage is happening during cd windows

[oak tangle]

when it happens shouldn't matter no?

% is %

[royal hazel]

there are levels to this

[balmy condor]

It very much does cause if you deal 20% of your damage as caustic, but it’s all during CDs, it’s during shiv

And during shiv is during tier

[zenith elm]

and during tier ir 50 percent more

is*

[balmy condor]

Like imagine you have 50% mastery baseline

You deal 100 caustic damage

You get 5% * 1.5 back

So 7.5%

But during shiv, that would be another x1.6

Which is 12%

[oak tangle]

i concede

[balmy condor]

Throw a tea on top of that and maybe a lily if you’re not using prism or whatever, mastery steroid

You go to the moon

[oak tangle]

i'll be honest, my flaw came from nto reading 2pc of deathstalker

XD

[static glacier]

stop posting hot women smh

[balmy condor]

I cannot

It is my duty

[oak tangle]

out of curiosity this is the splits for shiv / no shiv on kinous soulbinder

[earnest remnant]

why did i press play

[balmy condor]

Not quite

You’re sorting by target aura shiv

Which is probably close

But it only matters whether the boss has shiv in order for singular to get buffed

But additionally, you’re filtering out any caustic damage done to targets during the shiv window that didn’t have the shiv debuff

And you’re also keeping in all the damage dealt during dn when there is no mark and thus no singular

[sharp viper]

[oak tangle]

hmm. it does appear to show the caustic

[balmy condor]

Yes

It shows caustic done on targets that have shiv’s debuff

Not casting during the shiv window

[oak tangle]

how do i filter for that?

just as a learning excersie to use lgos better

outside using expressions

[sharp viper]

did you have that video ready just for moments like this?

[balmy condor]

and what if I did

[oak tangle]

go with just shiv for now, i understand all of it together is far more complex

search for the 2pc buff?

[sharp viper]

I'd ask for more

[balmy condor]

yeah so if you go here

this at the bottom is the 2pc

you can then hit the +

go back to damage done

now you have the little green squares

if you set the graph to main

you can get it overlayed

and if you change the type from decorator to filter

it should filter

it isn't atm hold on

I swear this works

[sharp viper]

damn that could be useful for future logs

[oak tangle]

it wasnt doing it for my shiv that's why i selected the target filter

change the pin to only if aura is on source?

[humble verge]

me after raiding 8,5h hitting p3 a max of 5-7 times

[balmy condor]

yeah idk maybe the 2 pc itself is struggling in logs

and it doesn't understand it

[sharp viper]

why are you doing this to yourself?

[balmy condor]

yeah there ya go

[oak tangle]

he grasping on, to what is a semblance of uptime

with some sussy spikes in there

[balmy condor]

should've updated the damage, no

[oak tangle]

ye

[red schooner]

Its almost like raiders get tired and play worse

How many pulls in total?

[oak tangle]

ty @balmy condor useful log tips to know

[humble verge]

havent checked

104 it seems

[red schooner]

Pain

[zenith elm]

for which bosses?

whats your character name ? :F

😄

[humble verge]

Sergeito, nexusking

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[zenith elm]

damn you nearly one shotted soulhunters

[jolly stirrup]

Bro you raid 8 hours? My brain is soup after 2

[oak tangle]

surely 8.5 hours is over 2 nights

or 3 even

[zenith elm]

i hope so for him

[jolly stirrup]

We raid 2 hours on Thursday and Monday

And like I said, my brain is soup after each raiding day

[oak tangle]

otherwise that's a guild of unemployed peeps or no sleepers

[cunning needle]

wooooooooooo saladbar

[zenith elm]

i really need to up my sub game tbg

tbh

[oak tangle]

i've nearly swindled my social raid guild to taking my rogue (not in that guild) to a heroic saladbar and having the holy pally autumn me

[static glacier]

ngl raiding saladbar on 3hrs of sleep wrecked dme

went from 3rd lowest deaths after tanks to 2nd highest kekw

surely i fix it today right

[cunning needle]

i kinda flopped first hour of the night as well

died tostupid shit in p1

but never fucked up ghosts

[static glacier]

i was one of the cleanest on it on the 1`st 2 nights

[cunning needle]

😎

[static glacier]

even while high af

yesterday though

smh i was disgusted by the shit i did

is k, we got into p3

maybe it dies

[red schooner]

He marathoned it yesterday

8.5 hours in one day

[oak tangle]

[red schooner]

Because his gm is a psychopath

[balmy condor]

Giga overtime

[oak tangle]

i'm tired just hearing about it

[red schooner]

After 3 hours of raiding I can already feel myself mentally checking out

[balmy condor]

Depending on the boss I mentally check out 3 hours before the raid

[oak tangle]

i asked my raid lead today if we wanted us to grab vantus for heroic dimensius, forgetting we raid wednesday, and i've had the buff all week

[red schooner]

Me on Queen after pull 300 in s1

[oak tangle]

i was excited to reclear tonight to get an antenna

🙁

[static glacier]

no fuckin shot

almost 9 hrs in a day wut

the overtime police isn't enough, call in the overtime army

[oak tangle]

those hours and not even RWF is criminal

[red schooner]

Overtime warcrime tribunal at this point

[jolly stirrup]

We haven't had a single antenna drop since season start

Its insane

[zenith elm]

nah 8 hours straight is diabolical work

[oak tangle]

we had 2 drop last night, in my dh raid, after i get it from vault

[static glacier]

multiple alts having it kinda killed the magic for me

also all the ele shams will get it before we have a chance

[jolly stirrup]

I swear its gonna show up in my vault on Wednesday, and I swear if I take it, we have it dropped

[static glacier]

since blizzard can't balance the fuckin game

[oak tangle]

my friend rolled a 98, i kekw rolled on it (cause it was avoidance) and got a 99

[cunning needle]

False imprisonment or unlawful imprisonment occurs when a person intentionally restricts another person’s movement within any area without legal authority, justification, or the restrained person's permission. Actual physical restraint is not necessary for false imprisonment to occur.

A defendant is subject to liability to a plaintiff for false imprisonment if: i) the defendant intends to confine the plaintiff within a limited area; (ii) the defendant's conduct causes the plaintiff's confinement or the defendant fails to release the plaintiff from a cownfinement despite owing a duty to do so; and (iii) the plaintiff is conscious of the confinement. In a minority of jurisdictions and under the Restatement Third, a plaintiff who was not conscious of the confinement (item (iii), above) may still recover if the plaintiff was harmed by the confinement. In all jurisdictions, the intent element (item (i), above) may also be satisfied through the application of the transferred intent doctrine (see I.A.2.b. Transferred intent, supra). Restatement (Third) of Torts: Inten. Torts to Persons § 7 (Am. L. Inst., Tentative Draft No. 3, 2018).

[oak tangle]

but im not an ass so i traded it to him lol

[jolly stirrup]

Like its okay if it gets dropped and I don't get it, thats fine

BUT NOT A DROP IS INSANE

[cunning needle]

the moment we're pulling 1 minute overtime

[red schooner]

Uberscot, blink twice if you're being held captive

[cunning needle]

i hvea that ready to go

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-shocked-confused-drew-cross-eyed-gif-4325565857286922030

[red schooner]

Just get it in vault, easy

[grim jay]

Kinda indeed sounds like what lack sleep does to you, degrading your body and functions

[jolly stirrup]

[grim jay]

We didnt see a heroic prism in 3 weeks

[red schooner]

I've had it in vault twice now, its easy

[grim jay]

Some items just dont wanna drop

[jolly stirrup]

Boy do I have news for you

Same

[grim jay]

Not really much of an issue with how close normal and heroic items are at the end of the day, but still kinda funny

Antenna only dropped once on mythic aswell

[red schooner]

I'm lootbanned from any antenna drops but I'm just gonna dinar it

And its fine

[zenith elm]

same brother

[grim jay]

Kinda hoping I will get atleast one of either antenna or prism

So I dont need to wait on a 2nd Dinar

[zenith elm]

gonna dinar the shit out of prism tbh

[red schooner]

I have mythic lily and pacemaker

So I'm alright trinket wise

[vestal wren]

prism is not that contested tho

[zenith elm]

ooooh it is

[red schooner]

Not the best but still pretty good

[knotty forge]

Guys hc dime do i rapture adds p1 or straight castic boss

Also when should I send prism

[red schooner]

Its rogue discrimination I tells ya

[grim jay]

Kinda need prism for sub.

[jolly stirrup]

What's Dinar?

[red schooner]

Yeah but frac dies tonight so, surely

[zenith elm]

good luck brother

i hope ppl arent as dumb as they were yesterday

last time

[balmy condor]

Surely

[zenith elm]

[balmy condor]

I hardly know her

[red schooner]

I dunno we have the ability to make any boss a 100 pull affair

[zenith elm]

i need to kill soul hunters tonight so i'm at the same progress as whispyr

[red schooner]

People keep dying on the spread bit.

[zenith elm]

defensives much? xD

[balmy condor]

You need to also skip Thursdays raid to get your wisdom teeth removed

[zenith elm]

I dont have wisdom teeth anymore

[red schooner]

I can't make other people hit their buttons

[zenith elm]

should i get them back to remove them again guys?

[red schooner]

Yes

[grim jay]

An item you get a limited amount of that is timegated next patch. You can buy gear of bosses you killed with it or myth track m+ trinkets if you timed ever +12

[zenith elm]

right in the feelings brother

[balmy condor]

Okay well PayPal me like 2800 USD then and I will remove them with your money so they’re basically yours

[zenith elm]

i've got my RL saying i die too much

[grim jay]

I never got any in the first place

Gotta be lucky with one thing

[zenith elm]

i'm literally the last dps to die in any pulls

[zenith elm]

OR

come to belgium, its free here

like most healthcare needs

[balmy condor]

Yeah but then I would need to go to Belgium

[zenith elm]

its less than 2800 USD

[balmy condor]

Oh it’s not about the cost of going to Belgium

[zenith elm]

and we'd meet and i'd be your belgian guide

[balmy condor]

It’s just

I would need to exist in Belgium

[red schooner]

Real

[zenith elm]

Belgium is good

trust

[balmy condor]

I will be in Germany for Christmas probably

Close enough

[zenith elm]

Noice

whats a traditionnal german dish for christmas ?

[buoyant herald]

beer

[oak tangle]

Krampusnitchzel

[fierce sigil]

True Story!!! And its very good

[static glacier]

so what is that

looks like potato with eggs

[deft geyser]

potato salad

[static glacier]

ngl i bet it is tasty

it just doesn't look super appetising

much like most european food ngl

outside of like the warmer countries

[zenith elm]

WHUT

FRANCE?

Belgium has also some pretty good dish

[static glacier]

france is a warmer country

bruh

[zenith elm]

it isnt ?

[static glacier]

bro what

[zenith elm]

warmer is like italy, spain, etc

[static glacier]

do we live in different realities

france is not a cold country

[zenith elm]

it isnt warmer than germany?

[static glacier]

im fairly sure it is

either ways i didn't mean france

mainly like eastern europe, some german stuff, netherlands swe, findland etc

all the food looks cursed

[humble verge]

i mentally checked out by going to the gym at 12am

[zenith elm]

damn

idk for soulhunters which spec i'm gonna play

assa or sub

[grim jay]

Roast with any type of meat

Or Rouladen

[jolly stirrup]

God I love rouladen

[golden loom]

Did you kill boss atleast

[red schooner]

I don't think he did

[oak tangle]

laughs in australian

[zenith elm]

i'll play assa i think on soulhunters, seems easier

[zenith elm]

Love you @humble verge

[true tide]

anyone played any assa on Mythic Nexus king?

[indigo lagoon]

not a good choice, hard to survive, even outlaw is difficult to survive

[static glacier]

Ye sup

[true tide]

do you just feel like you are perma being blasted by incoming dmg in p1? also if you have any suggestions what to use what defensive on id take any advice

[static glacier]

It’s painful but outside of the soaks, claws and the dot you shouldn’t be in Danger

Feint works on soak and claw

Cloak is good to remove dot

[feral basin]

@vestal wren Thanks for pushing the hot fix 🙂

[static glacier]

Cloak can be used in emergencies if you’d tank a laser or if not topped before soak

[true tide]

Yea im fixing my soak wa to tell me to feint, so it dose it on the variable timer, ive been kinda ripping evasion for the first oath feinting anything else and cloaking if i get the dot, those soaks really fuck if you forget the feint

[vestal wren]

no problem

[static glacier]

Gota healthpot to above like 70% on the soak + feint to live

[static glacier]

You running elusiveness?

[true tide]

yea

[feral basin]

What was it? I was trying to work it out myself, but I'm not a coding guru or anything, so still self learning

[static glacier]

I’ve been debating it, feels like cheat barely works

Only time it worked was platform add cast going off

[true tide]

i died twice and cheat didnt proc and swapped

[static glacier]

Generally speaking if you didn’t tank avoidable dmg and you had feint up

You shouldn’t be dying

Oh also crimson vial on dot is inportant

[true tide]

the soaks are my real pain point they really surprise you

[static glacier]

I feint every single one

If I don’t I go splat on like 1/3

[vestal wren]

was a assignment problem, was easy fixed within 2 minutes

so was my bad

[true tide]

yea im gonna need to do that for sure some of them killed me from 95%-0 without

[vestal wren]

luckily, you did ask so i could look into it

and fix it

[feral basin]

Oh, maybe I was over-looking it

[vestal wren]

[static glacier]

If we don’t press feint it’s litterally a healing / externals lottery

[feral basin]

No probs, like i say I tried to work it out, but me big dumb dumb 😄

[static glacier]

Truth be told it might be easier if your comp has a r sham

[true tide]

did log review with my evoker buddy after and hes like yea bro i only go to like 30% if i press no defensives

[static glacier]

Extra max hp

[true tide]

yea on the 2 pulls i got legit one shot i didnt win the max hp lottery

[static glacier]

We are like mages, squishy baseline with good defensives

The tankiest classes are shit like dk who are inherently super resilient and have broken defensives

There’s been a massive power creep for defensives and utility

[true tide]

funny enough my 2nd main is mage lmao but yea just hit harder than anything id seen yet while maining rogue

[static glacier]

We kinda fell from grace with how we’re no longer among the tankiest classes

Not far off though

[true tide]

considered sub for 26% vers but my gameplay suffers on sub vs assa

[static glacier]

Biggest issue is rot dmg tbh

Sin is notably squishier than the others

Sub can pick 8% healing taken or shield on finishers

Vers+ a ton of soothing shadows healing

[true tide]

isnt fatebound also the worst hero talent for defensive utility

[static glacier]

OL big vers high max hp

[static glacier]

Yeah it is

Defensive node is hella undertuned

[true tide]

cant imagine a world going ds spatter is ever worth either

we might get a pally in too which would help a bit (unsure but people are gearing em)

[static glacier]

Nah ds would brick ur timers

Fight is much better for 90s

[true tide]

yea 2 uses main platform uses on titan and get em up partway into amp its a sick timing

is it just save pot for amp? assa is one of the only classes i could see the arguement for 2 uses with execute

[static glacier]

We’ve been potting platforms and now using in amp

The public sin logs I saw all potted intermission though 2x pot might be better

Issue is dmg amp comes with lust

im guessing once more sin rogues are on saladbar there will be a consensus to follow, as it stands sim planning on keeping pot on amp until further notice

our cds fall on the 2nd half of amp anyway

so if the dragon would dip into execute we still get benefit, no idea if it will or not though

[spare kayak]

This was a kill had I not steeped into a clone and got obliterated

[true tide]

Yea that's kinda the issue sample size is super low atm my brain tells me 2x pot is better but I'm not 100% the dragon execute is interesting tho

But then again for prism you prob want it on a 3 min prism

Yea I'm sold on lust 3min prism and pot on DMG amp

[static glacier]

im running lily

sims better and ngl the death downside is cringe on prog

you suddenly have no trink for meaningful dmg checks

[true tide]

That's fair I have both I think the damage amp is kinda crazy with it

[static glacier]

i suspect if I had higher ilvl trinks in general

prism would start stomping

scales harder with ilvl

[true tide]

I actually want to run forge+prism

[static glacier]

kb ain't good enough, we do too much outside of cds

sub gets away with it cus litterally tank dmg the spec 70% of the time

you could cook it though

if it would work it would be last 2

[true tide]

So you'd forge pull and platform then prism 1:30 and amp

[golden loom]

then you are also playing amp with 1 trinket

[static glacier]

well half a trinket

but ye

lowkey, if you're comfortable i think sub is better

im just tired of playing it

[golden loom]

wasnt the best case scenario that whisp came up with for double on use still -0.7%

[true tide]

I started sub this season I'm not that great compared to my assa but it's playable

Played some sub on araz ended up killing on assa

[static glacier]

i've been sub for araz, soulhunters

the less places I have to play it the better

[true tide]

That's fair I sat soul hunters

[static glacier]

like the spec is almost super fun

in keys it feels good

but raid sub makes me want to hurt someone

[true tide]

It's so punishing comparatively

I'd love to kill Nexus king on assa so I'm hoping vault + 2 crafts helps but if I gotta swap I will

[static glacier]

i just tilt

when i get mechanics in dance

and the whole holding shit

is lame

its strong but just not that fun doing healer dps

people talking about pushing pillars on araz and ur there like doing 1m dps

autoattacking them

[true tide]

I remember watching exile have to move out of melee during flag on Nexus king and it looked rough

[dusky vault]

got my first 0 cdr fatebound bug on frac lmao

blizz pls

[sharp viper]

sounds like you went long enough without it

i got it twice on fractillus yesterday

[night cipher]

Yo so ummmm
With the fatebound now welcomed into the cleave world
Anyone tested it in 12+ keys ?

[sharp viper]

and once double CDR on DM

[balmy condor]

fatebound sucks ass in m+

[night cipher]

We know that rule. But we also knew the cleave rule is for ds. That’s why I asked
Ty

[balmy condor]

idk what that means

but basically every key where people have attempted fatebound, it's like 2-4 levels down

[night cipher]

Got it

[zenith elm]

hi, i need to do tank soaks on soulhunters (one each time) how would you do that as assa ?

when should i pop my cloak ?

[golden loom]

fractures?

[zenith elm]

ye

[golden loom]

you can tank 1 just fine no?

[zenith elm]

Yes, but idk about overlap yet

its on Mythic too

[golden loom]

I only did like 10 pulls on soul hunters

ye

[zenith elm]

was it easy to do as assa ?

[golden loom]

well we didnt get that far

[balmy condor]

it doesn't really do anything

[golden loom]

[zenith elm]

i'm hesitation between sub and assa tbh

[balmy condor]

you just eat it

[golden loom]

but I was atleast holding cloak to solo soak hunts

[zenith elm]

it doesnt do dmg ?

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah

healer mechanic

it's just a dot

[zenith elm]

How much dmg ?

[balmy condor]

no clue

[zenith elm]

cause i think we are 4 healing it

[balmy condor]

I don't notice it

you're 4 healing it?

okay well

[zenith elm]

we only have 4 heals lol

[zenith elm]

that doesnt bode well for my ass

[balmy condor]

4 healing is possible but holy hell its hard

[zenith elm]

i mean

the heals know i'm gonna take a lot of dmg

i hope they'll spot heal me

[golden loom]

well the entire raid is taking a fuck ton

[balmy condor]

the fight is a heal check + ranged dps mechanic check

your fracture doesn't mean shit

[zenith elm]

Ok

[balmy condor]

but it will hurt with 4 heals

[zenith elm]

I'll try to hold defensives for fracture

[golden loom]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/44?boss=3122&metric=speed

[zenith elm]

like second i'll cloak and third i'll evasion

[golden loom]

even looking at speed kills

everything is 5 heal

[golden loom]

wait what do you mean 2nd and third

cause u cannot take more than 1 for sure

[zenith elm]

I really really hope they 5heal it

but i dont know if we have a fifth heal for it

[golden loom]

or do you mean when they go out for the 2nd time etc

[zenith elm]

there is three cast of fracture

yeah

[balmy condor]

what does that matter

[zenith elm]

cause it has wayy more overlap at second and third cast

and if we 4 heal it, i'll need semi big defensives

nah

[balmy condor]

I don't understand but okay

[zenith elm]

its impossible to 4 heal it

i dont see ANYONE 4 healing it

[balmy condor]

there's plenty of 4 heals here

three of them in the top 100

[zenith elm]

there's 3

[balmy condor]

sorry 4 in the top 100

totally doable

[golden loom]

I did not scroll past the top 10 so didnt even see the first 4 heal (#11)

[zenith elm]

Yeah, but idk if it will be enough for my sorry assa ass

[balmy condor]

you sayin a lot of things I don't get

[golden loom]

do you have dps shamans priests paladins evokers monks or druids

[zenith elm]

yes to all

except evokers

[golden loom]

reroll o'clock

[zenith elm]

On the fifth boss? mdr

damn*

[golden loom]

either that or recruit a 5th healer

[humble verge]

poggie woggie

[red schooner]

Which game is that?

[zenith elm]

i think @humble verge is broken from his salhadar marathon

[humble verge]

its skate 4

[sick aspen]

how do you maximize caustic damage in m+? I see people post in here where it's their top damage but I'm finding it like 3-5th, behind gar/rup/sang

[jaunty sky]

it should be 2nd behind CT most of the time

[normal mist]

You choose a target, you do your aoe opener on him, you use garrote as your builder during IC and when 5 or more targets are ruptured, you start to cast envenoms

[desert crest]

Caustic dmg is mostly from using envenom on ur caustic target

[boreal mist]

understand we have bugs, do we have any new ones from the previous vid etc

[zenith elm]

No

[boreal mist]

ty

[zenith elm]

Np mate

[cold scroll]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[glad ruin]

Is there a reason why there is single target DPS is so shit with the M+ build?

[gritty laurel]

because you take aoe talents and not single target talents

the tradeoff for our extremely high, consistent aoe damage is low single target

[bronze imp]

Ahoy! Is there anyone here that have time too take a look on my guilds rogue logs if there is any obvious faults/misstakes he's doing?

[red schooner]

Drop them in here and we can have a look, is it just low dps issues?

[bronze imp]

Ye, mainy low dps, gimmie a sec

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2Dw9Cxv8ajmqMhW3?fight=1&type=summary&source=17

[red schooner]

First thing I saw, he has double on use trinkets which, AFAIK, ain't the best to run

[bronze imp]

Cool, wich should he swap in first place you think?

[red schooner]

Swap the ritual forge and keep the prism

His initial opener seems slightly off

Garrote, mutilate to 5+ combo points, rupture, muti to 5+ combo points, envenom, shiv, death mark, kingsbane

His shiv timings are also off

He wants his shiv to cover all of the deathmark

[bronze imp]

AHh thanks, I'll tell him, thanks alot

[red schooner]

His 1:30 death mark only had one shiv in it for some reason

He needs to sort his shiv usage out -

Desthmark window: shiv, death mark, kingsbane, shiv when first shiv ends.
Kingsbane window: shiv the last 8 seconds of kingsbane

But yeah double on use is... A choice. Swap out the ritual forge for sure.

[severe meadow]

Pacemaker is a pretty solid passive until antenna

[lapis mist]

was swaping bettwen sub and assa for this trys but i normaly have pacemaker and Unyielding Netherprism got a lily to

[red schooner]

He did good damage on that kill though, 80 log is solid

Just small cooldown window tweaks

[red schooner]

Maybe get him to check his weapon enchants as well, radiant power might not be the best simming one now, a lot of people are finding the crit enchant one to be better. Its likely only a small improvement but, every little helps

[normal mist]

Funnily enough I see some of my 80-89s and I think I suck

[red schooner]

May be a heroic v mythic log thing maybe?

[amber brook]

Is it possible to beat the log with 50+ of the same coin?

[red schooner]

Just highroll.

When fighting an enemy you have the choice to highroll or not highroll

[amber brook]

You are absolutely right, let's go gambling

[red schooner]

And people keep choosing the wrong option

Like, just flip better

[amber brook]

I just gotta say gold everytime

But dps wise, is it doable?

[real pike]

I heard you can shiv from the last 10ish seconds of KB as it'll already be capped by then

Is this fake news?

[real pike]

As gear gets better farther into the season and we get higher raid buff, probably

[red schooner]

Just shiv so that it covers deathmark

With death mark KB is capped in like 4 seconds

So just, aim to have your DM covered and you're chill

Re: the solo kingsbane, not fully sure

I just aim for the last 8 or thereabouts

[real pike]

Yeah I'm talking about the solo kingsbane

I really struggle with energy due to the increased duration

So by 10 seconds left of the KB I'm desperate for that juicy tea

[static glacier]

solo kb just do last 8s to be safe

[static glacier]

you can just trigger tea by dumping energy

no need to wait for the shiv macro

if anything im fairly sure dumping energy early is better in kb

[real pike]

yeah I full on spam during KB windows

but I run out of teas sometimes and then it feels absolutely horrible being starved inside the windows

I've even managed to starve inside DM windows once or twice

[red schooner]

I just ignore tea, if it happens it happens

[zenith elm]

i'm back from the gym

ready to get dressed and get out of work soon

[spice spire]

GZ king have a great Monday

[zenith elm]

Thx mate

it felt good

[errant hawk]

any news?

[tight ginkgo]

hello quake enjoy your monday :]

[hearty seal]

soon™

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-tell-me-what-to-do-side-eye-mail-man-you-dont-own-me-nope-gif-5355070

You too mister muse

[tight ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/mood-happy-sad-gif-23633589

[coral ibex]

go ask him

[umbral flume]

can I make cast bars on enemies thicker in plater?

im trying to find it

but dyslexia hittin

[rotund oak]

https://tenor.com/bcv8b.gif

[oak tangle]

So I ordered some Burger King after raid, unsure what I got delivered

[zealous moth]

that´s just for DS and if you dry shiv´d before

for FB you ALWAYS double shiv during deathmark and just use 1 for the last 8 seconds on a solo kingsbane

you will have 2 charges of shiv for the solo kingsbane, this is bait, as you need to save 1 in order to have 2 stacks on the following deathmark

[real pike]

this is contrary to what I have heard previously

I shall do it

but I shall not be happy about it

[zealous moth]

what did you hear?

[humble verge]

another day another day

[golden loom]

9 hour raid into that

you really are in hell

[humble verge]

im just browsing youtube anyways

while i que

[golden loom]

m+ pusher vs weekly enjoyer

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-movie-jack-black-steve-gif-8055239597365922282

[cyan lily]

no fix, crazy

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nose-edge-edge-wrestler-wwe-wrestling-gif-17922322

[buoyant jacinth]

Hey guys is assa bugged ?

Was just wondering or rerolling rogue think if they fix assa it should do gigs dps right

[zealous moth]

nah

don't think the fixes will bump the dmg too much

it may catch a nerf on aoe, bc that's the biggest problem atm

if it's for raid, bugfixes won't change much

[real pike]

that you can send shiv as soon as KB is capped, don't need to wait for last 8 seconds

[umbral flume]

I am rerolling to rogue rn and im loving asssa regardless so i wouldnt over think it.

[zealous moth]

does it even reach cap? honestly i've never paid attention to the # of stacks

but considering that if you´re capped, the damage will be the same, you can just always shiv during the last 8 seconds

[oak tangle]

At worst it’s like 3% lost

For the bug*

[gritty laurel]

you'll cap in a couple seconds during deathmark, and getting shiv uptime during deathmark is good so you just send it after the first one. on non-DM KBs, you're only gonna have one shiv anyway so you just send it on the last 8 seconds

it's a small difference either way

[hoary kernel]

do you guys usually stop at 6 ruptures before going into prio rotation? Or do you go for more?

[gritty laurel]

5 ruptures for scent and energy then i start slamming envenoms

[oak tangle]

Depends on the pack, if it’s 7 mobs I’d put it in all

[zealous moth]

yeah, just checked, my last frac log shows 4 seconds during DM and 10seconds outside of it

[oak tangle]

If it’s a bunch of tiny 2 hp mobs no shot

[zealous moth]

anyways, long story short, always shiv during last 8 seconds when you have no DM, that way you don't even have to worry about stacks

for DS, do last 10 seconds instead

[hoary kernel]

thanks

[oak tangle]

For deathstaker you will always have 2 shiv’s so doesn’t matter

[zealous moth]

not if you dry shiv

[hoary kernel]

Im so used to kingsblood that I am currently struggling with this new build. I just got back to the game since season 1

I still miss kingsblood TBH

[waxen oyster]

what

its the same shit

except one less cd

[tropic coyote]

Anyone weakauras or anything to tell tanks to restealth?

[gritty laurel]

bleed is easier to play because it's one less cd to track

[zealous moth]

!stealth

[hoary kernel]

its more of the poolng aspect

[gritty laurel]

and your damage isn't tied to the KB target surviving long enough

[tropic coyote]

!stealth

[hoary kernel]

tbh

[zealous moth]

no, what was the command

!chain

hm

[tropic coyote]

!chain

[gritty laurel]

there is no pooling though

[oak tangle]

!restealth

[main bridge]

!chainpull