assassination

[humble verge]

sim it

i would sim for both specs if ure intending to swap

[fickle quiver]

yeah but netherprism sims weird in low duration fights

[vale fox]

Aight fellas i’m going to bed

Gn

Gl on your loot

Besides those 3 fckers that already have bis trinkets

❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

[humble verge]

question is, are you playing raid or m+ more

just dungeonslice sim it

[oak tapir]

is this normal ?

[fickle quiver]

Alright, i will try that. I'm progressing with guild but otherwise play a lot of m+

thanks!

[zenith elm]

mor caustic spatter, and rupture should be higher

[zenith elm]

OH i'm in a pin

Yay

i will be seen as ignorant

[oak tapir]

yea i was thinking the same. Probably i forget to refresh spatter it seems

[zenith elm]

Seems like it

[humble verge]

we love when the shaman dies early on first pull not waiting for aggro

[zenith elm]

Aaaah yes

[humble verge]

also this is the dps

[zenith elm]

always the same brother lol

[humble verge]

after almost getting to 3rd miniboss

:3

[zenith elm]

damn you're pumping

which key lvl?

[humble verge]

was a 17

[zenith elm]

damn

[oak tapir]

btw if you know. it is worth to put dots on more than 5 targets. for example gambit 1st pull or

[zenith elm]

yes

[humble verge]

always

[zenith elm]

but on important targets, not small adds

bc on first gambit pull, lots of adds are gonna die near instantly

[brisk wolf]

can anyone tell me how much crit i want to be aiming for? is 30% ideal or ?

[jade abyss]

When you play your entire tww life ds and you switch to fb... im looking for my mark all the time

[red schooner]

Sim yourself is the answer. FB generally likes a bit more crit but, trust in the robot

[oak tapir]

THanks a lot boyz

[severe meadow]

I gotta do some simming, I got the crit ring from Plexus last night and that put me at 42%

[faint quartz]

My 3x tier pieces are all Hero track.
Should I pick the 4th at Hero track too,
or upgrade my Curse Stone Idol from Hero to Myhthic?

[vague mirage]

Boo so all the big d ass are fb?

[vestal granite]

With my itemlevel I could log into mythic Dimensius right now and kill him, but I cant tank ONE PACK at T11 Delves for more than 2 seconds

[midnight scroll]

i'd say go for tier first

[oak tangle]

i 99'd plexus heroic with casutic

internal bleeding so shit

[scarlet orbit]

its hc and you just traded a bit of dmg for no dmg at all so its still worse then taking ib

[oak tangle]

it's more so the people that come in here and get mad over tiny losses

when it really doesnt matter

[faint quartz]

Should I go Fatebound once I have the 4 pieces?

[oak tangle]

for ST sure, for cleave is more nuanced

[midnight scroll]

yea you'll wanna play FB for most bosses in raid and always in m+

[oak tangle]

FB in keys? what

[midnight scroll]

my bad

meant DS always in keys

[faint quartz]

Oh, I don’t raid unfortunately.
Stay at Deathstalker then I guess

[midnight scroll]

i do wish we could completely move away from DS in m+ as well, ever since FB became playable i started hating deathstalker

[zenith elm]

yeah

not being able to switch is annoying

which i why i'm learning sub

[oak tangle]

i think how it is now, is how it should be

[red schooner]

Find biggest target, sit on biggest target, refuse to swap

Easy life

[oak tangle]

one for one content and the other for other content

but yeah it would be nice if in midnight it reverses the roles etc

[zenith elm]

i do not want for DS to become the meta in raid

dont make me come back to S2 DS

i dont want it

[scarlet orbit]

Me saying to my raid lead that the webs on loomithar which are killing us is not my problem

[zenith elm]

YES

[red schooner]

My raid leader told me to tunnel

And its just OKAY THEN

I WAS GOING TO DO THAT ANYHOW BUT NOW ITS OFFICIAL

[zenith elm]

IF THE RL SAID IT

i cant disobey guys

guess i'm gonna only hit the boss

[midnight scroll]

i got an 89 parse on mythic plexus, 99 for ilvl, we go to soulbinder, i switch to ds, green parse 😐

skill issue, i know, i know

[oak tangle]

i think it's still fb on that boss no?

[red schooner]

The trick to soulbinder parse is to gaslight your entire raid into going ST build because 'the adds will die too quick'

[scarlet orbit]

yea just bribe your raid to only to singletarget and let you pad 😄

[zenith elm]

how do you setup your garrote and rupture for dry KB in raid ?

[red schooner]

Leaving you free to pad

[scarlet orbit]

we have 2 retris and warris 🙁 and they also have enough gold its so over on that boss for me

[red schooner]

Cut a power line to their house idk

[scarlet orbit]

[midnight scroll]

i'm all over the place currently so i'm definitely doing a lot of things wrong, we only fought it once, gotta practice more

[scarlet orbit]

you just ignore it its fine to refresh inside kb just dont let it drop

[zenith elm]

even with CB being annoying if you dont envenom two times before ?

[normal mist]

Guys I'm now gonna start with dimensius hc progress. Any overall tips for the fight besides "don't die" and "swap sub"?

[scarlet orbit]

dont swap sub thats never the answer

[zenith elm]

you'll do ok, play FB

and you'll cleave a bit, BUT JUST A BIT

[normal mist]

(I haven't played sub since DF S1)

[scarlet orbit]

p3 is pretty free so if you have the choice to send cds in the last add platform do it its the harder part of the fight

[zenith elm]

you can shadow step the bump if necessarry

and shadowstep on the big adds

and only do DM on first big add in intermission

[zenith elm]

not if you want to parse

[normal mist]

Currently the problem is the P1, we've only reached the intermission 1st platform twice, we don't have dks and we had ranged killing the two extra adds

[zenith elm]

you'll lose lots of dps if you dont have DM while in AMP phase

[zenith elm]

Ooof not having DKs is shit

[scarlet orbit]

Yea but its a prog kill so i assume he wants just to kill it. We are only ethical gamer here after all 😄

[zenith elm]

he can send a KB on second platform

[normal mist]

Yeah I'm not even talking about CDs, I'm sending them as I have them

[scarlet orbit]

Igore the bribe talk to parse from 2 min ago

[midnight scroll]

the thing i hate about that amp phase is by the time i set up my bleeds and press dm, there's like 4 seconds left on the actual amp🤣

[red schooner]

YUP

[zenith elm]

Sub is better for this amp phase

[red schooner]

Bring back redirect but let it work on dots instead

Good plan

[scarlet orbit]

the hard parts are really the platforms but we cannt really help there sadly. Its a pretty much lean back and hope for your ranges to do their job

[zenith elm]

hence why i'm learning sub lol

[midnight scroll]

oh definitely

i was jealous of exile and perfecto when the race was going on

[normal mist]

My group learned actually fast how to position the poop + we're calling out the poop incomings on voice

[midnight scroll]

how dare they be the 2 best rogues in the world

[normal mist]

My problem on the 1st phase (and I complained about it on coms too) is that everyone is scared to pick up the fucking orbs. I'm doing them as melee ffs

(I never have a problem doing mechanics)

"but royal why are you picking them up - my raid leader asked"
"Because I know I will do the mechanic"

I trust myself to get shit done LOL

[vestal granite]

Yo found a new bug

Caustic Splatter straight up wont apply to targets with only wound poison on them

[normal mist]

That's not a bug is it?

[vestal granite]

nevermind it says

[normal mist]

What does the caustic talent say

[vestal granite]

deadly poison and lethal poison are different apparently

[normal mist]

Deadly and amp apply it iirc

[vestal granite]

feels like an oversight regardless

heres the confusion lethal poisons (weapon poisons) are called "tödliches Gift" in german but deadly poison is also "tödliches Gift"

[midnight scroll]

i love how DEADLY poison isn't LETHAL

[spice surge]

I mean even if it said lethal, instant still wouldnt work

Because instant doesnt have a debuff

So it cant be on the target

I guess the real oversight is allowing people to use instant to begin with

[hearty seal]

phrasing

[vestal granite]

also I cant use splatter in PvP because wound poison is mandatory

[spice surge]

If only there was a way to apply two poisons at the same time

[sinful ice]

idk what to take is better btw)

[zenith elm]

whats the problem?

i'm an ass main who's learning to sub

[hearty seal]

good for you dawg

[vestal granite]

also I cant use DTB in PvP because amp poison is complete garbage in pvp

[hearty seal]

DTB doesn't force you into Amp tho

[vestal granite]

and deadly poison is complete garbagest

jesus fuck

[lost nexus]

Why did they remove dire poison??? I came back after a few years of no playing

[humble verge]

i love priory lads

[hearty seal]

actually it's hilarious to hear that the core mechanic of Assa just doesn't work in PvP

[humble verge]

7,5 min left tank pulls this and then somehow the lightspawn heals half the pack :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
i cant blame him tho the paladin did conc as soon as he did the heal death

im just coping

[zenith elm]

us vibing in keys

i also have a warr tank and monk tank if you'd like to do some keys sometimes

[lost nexus]

Does anyone know why they removed dire poison?

I found it useful against slow targets

[humble verge]

honestly, i feel like i havent performed that well in a priory in a while

[midnight scroll]

it's a weird one for me as well

[clever sparrow]

whats best way to learn mythic raids without doing it? i just joined in a mythic guild and i really have no idea how to practice

[humble verge]

look up guides

[zenith elm]

guides

[clever sparrow]

i know the boss mechanics

[zenith elm]

and lorrgs for CDs

[humble verge]

and watch kill videos

idk

lorrgs is suggestional

[sinful ice]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[clever sparrow]

got it

[humble verge]

sometimes you also wanna just learn cds on the go too

[zenith elm]

you look at all they do, if 80 percent are doing it

[humble verge]

since some bosses have places where u wanna save and use

[zenith elm]

its that it gives the most dps

[clever sparrow]

got it

so some POV and lorrgs

[zenith elm]

ye

and practise on dummy if you dont know your rotation by heart

[midnight scroll]

the best and only way to practice is to do the raid over and over again, and if you aren't actively screwing up the whole raid, you'll have a lot of room for improvement

[clever sparrow]

i just sometimes panic 😄

[clever sparrow]

i've never managed to wipe a group but i managed to die like animals few times

i want purple logs 😄

[scarlet orbit]

thats just lacking experience will get better over time

[ebon steppe]

What？New pin

[zenith elm]

not about the bugs guys

[scarlet orbit]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[midnight scroll]

just give yourself time, you'll get there

[oblique flume]

what do we think about equiping two use trinket (Lilly and prism) ?

[scarlet orbit]

we hold our fair distance from that

[zenith elm]

never do that on ass rogue

[weary stump]

You could say it's an ass idea

[midnight scroll]

you could say that's SUB optimal wink wink

[weary stump]

This guy gets it

[scarlet orbit]

my chef where i learnd used to say "that idea has some ass" when a idea was good

[clever sparrow]

anyone can explain me how the DM execute works?

[wanton spear]

ret cries about dmg gets a buff, bm cries about damage gets a buff, fury cries about a bug it gets hotfixed that week, rogue has bugs across all 3 specs for god knows how long. crickets....

[clever sparrow]

like i see nothing about DM deals more damage when enemy under 30%

[scarlet orbit]

because its a different talent

[viral apex]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/J6DXP9tBaLNMmpn4/47-Heroic+Dimensius,+the+All-Devouring+-+Kill+(8:42)/Tammytoes/standard/overview

[clever sparrow]

is it [Zoldyck Recipe]?

[viral apex]

can someone help me to improve?

[scarlet orbit]

yea this 2 talents are helping us in execute

[clever sparrow]

Got it

thanks

what we cast when we have 4x CP?
should i go for another muti and get 7x cp?
or should i reapply garrote?

which worth more

[zenith elm]

depends

[midnight scroll]

if you need to reapply garrote anyway then that's what you wanna do

[zenith elm]

if you are in garrote pandemic, then garrote

[clever sparrow]

if not? mostly i find my self like this with 16 sec of garrote duration

should i go for another mutilate?

[scarlet orbit]

yes

[zenith elm]

then mutilate

[clever sparrow]

thanks

[latent kernel]

why does maghar racial go kinda crazy

[zenith elm]

bc its more dps on cd ?

[clever sparrow]

1 more thing!
on first boss in mythic we mostly get our 2nd Kingsbane 3 /4 sec before the intermission (push back phase idk what it called)

should i throw kb even tho i cant stack it?

or i wait for the shield phase? (Holding it)

[zenith elm]

you send it

always on this boss

[blazing tulip]

Your tank can move the boss to the back of the room right before the pushaback so melee can continue to dps during it. Just a suggestion.

[zenith elm]

and you shyv before your KB so you can do most of the burst

[clever sparrow]

he wont do it

[blazing tulip]

Sad

[clever sparrow]

and i rather not talk much as a trial raider 😄

[clever sparrow]

before?

[zenith elm]

ye

[clever sparrow]

shouldnt i use the shiv right before it starts pushing back?

[zenith elm]

bc you wont be able to send before the last 8 sec

you wont remember that

[warm flint]

BAITED INTO A BUGFIX

[zenith elm]

and then if you dont you'll waste a shyv

[warm flint]

you'll see this msg like at least 50 times today also kekw

[zenith elm]

My fault sorry guys

[clever sparrow]

make sense

[sharp viper]

@balmy condordoes council's guile get replaced on fatebound at some point of gear? asking cause of renown 6 stuff going pretty hard into -20% crit DR

[zenith elm]

NEVER ENOUGH CRIT

[unreal tide]

Just turn on every enchanted for both weps in top gear and, check override enchants and click the run Sim button

Not that deep

[blazing tulip]

Does the sim support the raid buff?

[untold palm]

I used to deep dive this dc in s1 and have a question about a Bug i havent read before yet. Anyone else had the Problem that you use a finisher with 5 or mot combopoints and your target stays on the deathstalker stacks it had before? This didnt happen to me in s1 or 2 but keeps happening since the 4p

[spice surge]

As long as you have a secondary stat enchant it doesnt really matter, you can swap it to something else if you want but likely sim is just gonna say theres no difference

[spice surge]

When you have darkest night up you cant remove stacks from the mark

[untold palm]

I know that

[spice surge]

Old bug from around week 2 of nerubar

[wet grotto]

could someone tell me where i could improve my rotation?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vA1ry9BJjap6CPq3?fight=20&type=damage-done&source=137

[untold palm]

No darkest night just 2 or 3 Stacks on the target

[sharp viper]

do you know if the renown 6 weapon enchant buff is implemented in raidbots already?

[spice surge]

Dont think its going to be

Nor do i think it matters

[main bridge]

There’s a string you can put in but Whispyr thinks it’s 1% and it wouldn’t change any decisions

[sharp viper]

I'd wager that 1% is enough of a margin to sway decisions

[coral walrus]

What item from set are we not using? I see on wowhead all 5 set items are put on bis (even though not all are good stats for rogues, dunno why)?

[spice surge]

All stats are good for assa

[main bridge]

Then search my message history and add the string to your sim

[midnight scroll]

this is interesting, could you explain a little bit more? genuinely wanna know, and i keep hearing this but i just don't understand stats enough ig

[spice surge]

Idk what there is to explain, theres not one stat stats significantly better than the others

So just get a bit of each and youre good

[sand otter]

i got the forge trinket in herioc last night. my numbers are improving finally

[main bridge]

Or just stop thinking about stats and sim top gear

[midnight scroll]

i do already, i'm just still not that knowledgable about all this stuff yet so i try and learn whenever i can

[main bridge]

Well that’s the deal you don’t need to worry about the stats and top gear figures it out for you

[sharp viper]

@main bridge you mean this?

[dawn kelp]

Just looked at a top frac log and this guy is death marking every minute 😂😂

[cyan dew]

Guys if i'm starting a big pack, should I always gar > rup > rup > gar then envenom to proc DN or I should use more garrotes and CT before DN ?

[scarlet orbit]

ask yourself why you are not doing that

[static glacier]

noob hasn't even unlocked apex dm talents yet

[red schooner]

Because bug abusing is unethical DPS

Only ethical DPS allowed

[static glacier]

untill it gets baked into your next tierset, im looking at you here coup bug

[sand otter]

ok i still need to get better

[jade abyss]

Ambush gar rup rup gar gar ct then mut for caustic and then lets go depends on mob count obviously

[warm vortex]

How else were you supposed to get parses in nerubar

[sand otter]

having two on use trinkets is maddening lol.

[scarlet orbit]

why do you use 2 on use trinkets in the first place

[normal mist]

That's why we don't use them

[red schooner]

By being kind to the bugs

[warm vortex]

Dating sim with queen ansurek lmao

[cyan dew]

So even if I have a DN proc I should prioritize doting and CT before using a full envenom, right?

[warm vortex]

Resolve the political drama in kahet with romance

[sand otter]

they sim the best. but it may be worth the loss for less madness.

[jade abyss]

Ct is your biggest damage you want it early as possible

[scarlet orbit]

thats a bit weird. What are your trinket options

[jade abyss]

I mean people can correct me but im sure thats the way

[static glacier]

assuming things are stacked ye

rup > ct is better than rup > rup

[sand otter]

plus the new forge trinket from MFO, this is jsut the list before i got it.

[humble verge]

IM FAMOUS MOM, IM ON MURLOK.IO
I WILL SIGN AUTOGRAPHS IF NEEDED

[sand otter]

nvm its there i just didnt ahve my most recent sim saved

[cyan dew]

My question is if I should use a full envenom to apply DM or if I should dot more targets in a big pack, this includes CT before DM too.

[scarlet orbit]

You have only 1 on used equipt? So you now play with idol and araz?

[warm vortex]

What the hell

That's not uber

He would be one of those little creatures

What are they called

[scarlet orbit]

who are you from these 4?

[sand otter]

Yean idol and araz sim the highest. its why i chose them.

[humble verge]

im 6

[warm vortex]

Uber

[jade abyss]

You can sign my steam profile?

[warm vortex]

what are the little thingies called

[scarlet orbit]

maybe sim a pacemaker from this season against that it will probably sim better

[warm vortex]

Yea

these guys

[sand otter]

ill give it a shot. and then never see it drop lmao

[sand otter]

i only get to do 1 or 2 10s a week at most. so gear is a rarity.

[static glacier]

depends on a few factors, if you're not in IC always just send the envenom, if in IC have you finished spreading rupture? how long will this pack last / is it stacked yet?

the more stacked it is the more incentivised you are to envenom

[cyan dew]

what's IC?

[static glacier]

indiscriminate carnage

[cyan dew]

oh

so if in IC I should focus on dotting/CT before reaching the full 7 cp and applying DN, right?

[royal lantern]

cursed vault

[static glacier]

void touched fragment ain't even hero

[royal lantern]

you touch delves after the mandatory week1?

[static glacier]

in the process of making cloaks a dead slot they ended up killing boots

[cyan dew]

Also, if i'm about to burst and my envenom will expire before KB/DM, should I prioritize keeping evenom up or w/e just burst and use envenom during it?

[static glacier]

dont think about envenom uptime

just play the prio

env uptime is automatically fixed

[tawny geyser]

You always Envenom before DM anyway.

[royal lantern]

its also

wrist is emb slot cus i have the belt from the first boss mythic

i have non-tier mythic legs from hardmode and full mythic tier anyway

trinket is lul

so the mythic ring it is i gues

[static glacier]

now see, i went 5head and took myth bracers from raid

will just craft belt later down the line

[royal lantern]

yeha idk, i just got the first plex belt drop and then made myself heroic emb wrist

[red schooner]

8 a week so there's more places for the bad items to be

[cyan dew]

sometimes when you're in the middle of a boss you don't have much energy to keep it up if dot's are about to fall, in those times it happens that we need to make a decision if we save some energy for burst or envenom before a burst to keep it up and burst with no energy. That's where i'm in doubt.

[cyan dew]

so if I burst without envenom up i'm not losing much, right?

Should just save some energy for the burst

[main bridge]

Your bleeds give you energy

That’s why you have infinite energy in AoE situations

[warm vortex]

How tf do your bleeds even give you energy

Do you absorb the blood back into your body like a sponge?

[main bridge]

Talents but from a lore perspective idk haha

[sand otter]

the blood of our enemies invigorates us

[restive crater]

This

^

[tardy geyser]

Vampire spec

[royal lantern]

lore perspective, outlaws will die at 32 because they have a 24/7 adrenaline rush, which kills their hearth

aka just like Outlaw players with their Monster addiction

[main bridge]

True

[vestal granite]

how good is Screams of a Forgotten Sky trinket in m+ do we have data/anecdotes?

[coral ibex]

not great

stat amps will probably be better

that’s the damage proc one right?

[vestal granite]

its the Dimensius trinket with the on-kill explosions

[coral ibex]

maybe if the damage is uncapped

[celest ruin]

just yoinked this from that guy earlier

[normal mist]

Jesus, GG

[celest ruin]

now only 23 hours left until lockin unfortunate

[royal lantern]

holy shit, double stounbound enchant actually sims higher for me now

no more enchant mixing

[lunar pond]

Is this heroic or mythic? Did you just not break anything and let them all come at once? Do the other dps have hands? I have so many questions

[coral ibex]

its probably heroic, you ignore all of the adds and break them all at the end and you get giga cleave in execute

[celest ruin]

its mythic. our evoker and ele died on the last add break with execute up

guess ill take the pad then

[fiery basin]

what's a good miss chance when simming with Antenna?

[spice surge]

10-15% on most fights

[granite path]

Myth track cursed idol or hero track lily? Primarily for m+ 🥺

[deep breach]

honestly, i hate the cursed idol. lily you can macro and forget it exists basically

[royal lantern]

why are you using cursed idol then

[deep breach]

wasn't me taking it

[bright tartan]

Jump 3 times

[visual sun]

ask bug fix 3x

[royal lantern]

im so happy i never used that thing

[hearty seal]

ye same

[granite path]

so prob just a small ish increase vs convenience then i guess, thanks

never used cursed idol so didnt think it was that bad

[cyan dew]

if i'm about to burst, I don't have energy and my envenom will expire before KB/DM, should I prioritize keeping envenom up or w/e just burst and use envenom during it?

[fiery basin]

Must've been asked 10000 times before but how do you play prism in raid, wait for full stacks or use it on CD with DM?

[cyan dew]

using with DM is about 0.5% loss.

[fiery basin]

vs full stack?

[cyan dew]

ye

[late whale]

anyone else having issues with simming top gear with raidbots? Mine starts and stops directly at 10%

droptimizer works tho

[red schooner]

well, it looks like its time to ignore a second antenna

Now we wait for the robot to tell me to commit more crimes

[warm vortex]

Tried my ara kara 15
like third key the entire season

deplete before we even finish gathering the entire first pull

[red schooner]

Is raidbots down or have I broken something

[main bridge]

You discombobulated it

Good job

[red schooner]

[red schooner]

It knows that I'm about to delete a second antenna

[oak tangle]

why u ignore antennae

also why tf is spelt antenna

[jaunty sky]

what are you taking over myth antenna? lily?

[red schooner]

probably, already got myth pacemaker

[fallow canopy]

isn't that the plural

[red schooner]

so like

[oak tangle]

it's not both?

[red schooner]

antenna good, but it's not the biggest upgrade

[oak tangle]

rip why we only take one

[fallow canopy]

cuz the boss never drops 2 apparently

the purple fucker

[oak tangle]

fr fr tho

those real moths are cute af

[fallow canopy]

they actually are, I don't think I've ever seen one before lol

[oak tangle]

silk moths

[coral ibex]

[red schooner]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/j87YhPX5L1cbtTZhLQUhct yup, no antenna

[oak tangle]

fixed

[deep breach]

just got flamed by a paladin for not dispelling poison on him on my shammy 🙂

[oak tangle]

why you not running poison cleanse totem

[deep breach]

on the plus side. i finally got rid of last seasons gloves on my rogue

[deep breach]

i am but it has a cd lol

[oak tangle]

also yeah dude is hella crazy, he has a free dispell

[deep breach]

ret palas 🥲

[royal lantern]

you think ret paladins know any of their buttons outside of divine storm?

[oak tangle]

last time i ran with a ret pala, he wouldnt blow up the adds in arakara

on avanoxx

sadness

[flint marsh]

are there any talent choices people are making for more boss dmg in m+ or is it just grab 5 extra mobs

[coral ibex]

the latter

you have weak pure ST and extremely strong funnel

[sonic fossil]

!bug

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[cyan summit]

is it good if i macro my shiv with tea?

[void pecan]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[cyan summit]

thanks!

[void pecan]

Yep yep!

[cyan summit]

for some reason its not working

[limber swallow]

do you have the item "Thistle Tea" in your inventory or bank?

[oak tangle]

did you put it on your bar

[cyan summit]

ohh yes

[cyan summit]

i doo

[limber swallow]

get rid of those and try it

[cyan summit]

hmm still not working :/

[limber swallow]

some people have said you need to do a UI reload after you get rid of the items

I don't see why that would be the case, but yea, worth a try

[cyan summit]

unfourtanley still 🙁

[limber swallow]

and it just doesn't use tea?

[cyan summit]

shiv is working but with no tea

ye

[limber swallow]

yea, that's exactly the same problem I had.
I got rid of the tea in my bank and it started working

[spice spire]

You don’t have any in like

The void bank right

[oak tangle]

i know my suggestion seems dumb, but make sure you put the macro on the bar

[cyan summit]

ima check the void bank

ye its on the bar 🙂

[jagged niche]

do i macro Unyielding Netherprism to Vanish or DM?

as a fatebound ST

[cyan summit]

the tea item is also called tea ?

[oak tangle]

depends if/when you press vanish

[cyan summit]

so i can search it in the bag / bank

[limber swallow]

item is called Thistle Tea

[coral walrus]

anyone can/have time for log review?

[cyan summit]

item cant be found xD

[oak tangle]

can you put the spell id in instead

see if that helps

[cyan summit]

hmm ok let me try that

[cyan summit]

should it be like this with the ID?

[oak tangle]

hmm i did a quick google, i dont think you can

which is weird cause you can do it with item

[spice spire]

Dm is 0.5% loss for st but frankly either or is fine

[clear atlas]

i just looked at your character count on my macro vs yours...you don't have a trailing space somewhere do you? I see mine at 69 (giggity) and yours at 71. And when I add a space to my macro it does raise the count of characters...just a thought

[hexed harbor]

i saw the red dot on the pin, got my hopes up

it was something different it got my hopes up

[amber stream]

Is there any weakaura to track when 1 of the poisons drop? The one I am finding only shows when all of the poisons drop

[cyan summit]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[oak tangle]

you could make one, quite easy

[amber stream]

You star!!

[coral ibex]

i feel like most times, your poisons will expire at the same time

right?

because you apply them at the same time

and they're all 1hr buffs

[oak tangle]

trigger, aura, buff missing, and type in the poison name

[coral ibex]

you could set the reminder aura to trigger when the buff has <10 mins remaining

instead of when it expires

[unborn rain]

lol did cn homie delete his love letter to realz

[oak tangle]

nah

it got removed

[unborn rain]

based

[oak tangle]

violated rules

[unborn rain]

i wanted to read the comments tho sad

[oak tangle]

can't @devs i guess

[unborn rain]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-write-gunna-gif-10366234518726509577

dear realz

[spice surge]

No petitions, StrawPolls, or fundraisers. Academic or Research surveys may be allowed at the mod team's discretion with prior approval.
Is why the mods took it down

[oak tangle]

i mean it was none of those though lol

[spice surge]

It was, he added a petition

[oak tangle]

oh

rip

gg go next

i feel like it would violate rule 4 though "Do not post to shame, target, or call out specific individuals or guilds. This includes smear campaigns or encouraging others to boycott or support specific people. If posting a screenshot of your game, please block out all character and guild names unless the post is not negative and the names are required to understand your submission, such as puns or coincidental names."

[unborn rain]

he should havemade a better chat gpt prompt haha

i can taste it its so close

[oak tangle]

i got 2k, accidentally got to 2500, aint gonna get to 3k

[unborn rain]

fair

[oak tangle]

wish they made 2500 give cooler shoulder mogs

[unborn rain]

lmfaoo someone needs to turn all of dudes comments into those chinese boss copy pasta

Ravenholdt discord blinds you, whispyr 宾波普音乐 rogue players are fleeing century of humiliation 流氓世纪的屈辱

[warm vortex]

Progress

[spice spire]

Micky mouse hoa io

🥀

[warm vortex]

Quake

Ignore what i just said

but what's ur rio

[spice spire]

Oh dog I’m not running keys this tier

Maybe 2900?

[warm vortex]

And My rio is bad

Smh

my head

[spice spire]

My vault luck has been disgusting tho

[warm vortex]

Same

[spice spire]

Myth Lily pace and weapon (I don’t raid mythic)

[oak tangle]

if you had to pick between being a "homie" or a "real one" which one would it be

[spice spire]

Rest of my gear is ass

[spice spire]

A real one does both bbgirl

[warm vortex]

"My vault luck is shit"

"Mythic bis trinket guys, what should i chose"

Never change love u

[spice spire]

I said disgusting not shit

Haven’t been punished for not playing

Smdh

[warm vortex]

Ohhh

I see what you mean

Yea i got like
2x mythic tier which is nice

and a trinket i regret taking over tokens

[spice spire]

No my vault luck has been so good that I feel guilty for not playing

[oak tangle]

my rogue gets ass vaults

mydh gets goated

[sly spoke]

just remind yourself of the shadow nerfs people been calling bugs so you wont feel bad for not playing

[warm vortex]

Just give me the vaults Zac

SV needs all the help it gets

:(

[old obsidian]

well then my 60% crit is bad now? :c?

[warm vortex]

Does anyone know if there is a way to sort by runs containing a specific spec in raider io

[severe silo]

DSM, what is

[fallow canopy]

Ravenholdt discord blinds you, whispyr 宾波普音乐 rogue players are fleeing century of humiliation 流氓世纪的屈辱 the bane of kings over the bleeding of the common folk 国王的祸害比平民的流血更严重

[hot juniper]

alright im curious, anyone else using a lily and a prism? if so how are you deciding when to use lily over the prism on use

[mint valve]

you usually dont double on use for assa

[unborn rain]

that last line kinda hard ngl

[hot juniper]

yeah ik its not normal, but curious if anyone has tried to min max the use of them both cause they so good

[near oar]

hey should I macro netherprism to DM or should I wait for max stacks on boss fights?

[mint valve]

classes that excel in double on use, typically do a shit ton of damage in their cds and tiny damage outside of them

thats not really the case for assa in m+

we do a lot of damage even just with shivs

so.. double on use isnt good

but if you HAD to...

you would use lily all the time and hold prism for huge pulls like lust or pot or damage amps

[hot juniper]

i mean ive got a maxed out champ seaforium that i can use still but yeah lol

[mint valve]

or just use it every other dm

keep it simple

[runic hinge]

haha hey

[mint valve]

the problem will be your lily will sit there available to be used for a majority of the key

unused

[oak tangle]

passive trinkets are trinkets too

🙁

[near oar]

double on use it really good for sub but for assa it really effects the damage output you do out of your DM

[upper spear]

why are Assa Deathstalker rogues using Lilly in M+? 1.5 min trinket on a 2min CD class?

[runic hinge]

could be all they have

[oak tangle]

my dh bis is 2 passive trinks

[upper spear]

Archon - https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/assassination/rogue/mythic-plus/overview/10/all-dungeons/this-week
Logs - https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/45?class=Rogue&spec=Assassination&heroTree=53

just seeing a lot of Lilly

[near oar]

lily gives more master than priory on same ilvl

if you are asking that

[upper spear]

i guess that could make sense why

i assumed 2min CDs would be higher

[main bridge]

What if they don’t have other trinkets

[upper spear]

ya could be, but im looking at top logs and what Archon suggests and its all over the place

[main bridge]

Trying to draw conclusions based on sites like this is pretty silly imo

[fallow canopy]

its early season people just use whatever the best they have

[main bridge]

Ultimately your gearing decisions should be based on top gear sims of your own character

[near oar]

I mean if you have 2 or more priory people in the grp then priory could make sense

[main bridge]

It doesn’t matter what other people are doing

[near oar]

since assa benefits from almost every stat

[upper spear]

?

[oak tangle]

I think that short term top gear bis is a mistake at times

[main bridge]

Use your words

[upper spear]

why do you think data is silly

[oak tangle]

sometimes people should do the long play

[main bridge]

I just said a bunch of stuff about that

You think that copying other players makes sense but in reality using the same gear they have may not be the best decision for your gear. That’s why sims exist

It’s like buying the same shoes as a pro basketball player and thinking it will make you play like them

[oak tangle]

it's more like having the same body as a pro basketballer but yeha

[upper spear]

also blindly following sims is also silly? its subjective to the enviroments

so idk your point lol

[coral ibex]

i use my myth lily because its my strongest on use trinket rn

[main bridge]

Who said blindly?

[upper spear]

because "sim it" is a blind suggestion

[main bridge]

A top gear sim is going to be more accurate than copying other people’s gear. I think that’s not in contention

[coral ibex]

my guild doesn't get trinket drops in raid so ill only ever get a forge or prism in my vault

[oak tangle]

also, there is an argument to be made about sims being unrealistic to attain so empirical data gathered by actual people can be of more use

[upper spear]

can i share an image with you that will make you a lil upset

[fringe hare]

Do you guys have any recommendations on how to maintain energy for the raid ST Fatebound build? I am constantly applying garrote/rupture for venomous wounds but it feels like I run out of thistle teas so fast.

[oak tangle]

constantly applying, or keeping them up in pandemic windows, the former will drain your energy even faster

also

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[green pier]

It feels better to pretend envenom uptime is still a thing though, because it at least feels like it's something we're actively doing.... rather than just sat there doing nothing waiting for enough energy to press a button 😕

[oak tangle]

that's not what the post means

it means there is no need to hold envenom to chain it back to back

and that just sending it when you have the cp is fine

[oblique slate]

Should I ignore the robot telling me to craft chest?

[coral ibex]

probably

unless you never do +10 keys or myth raid

[oblique slate]

I didnt craft anything to max out my myth track lily

but I got a socket slot myth tier headpiece and sim again is telling me to up that over crafting a ring

I just want to craft

[coral ibex]

why

helm/chest/legs are the largest stat allocations

[oblique slate]

I love crafting.

[coral ibex]

upgrading helm logically should be a large increase

[oblique slate]

its satisfying

[coral ibex]

ok well then you can ignore the robot if you dont care about the numbers

[green pier]

I know thats what it means, and like I said.... holding to "feel like" you are maximising the uptime (and by extension pooling some energy) makes it feel better outside our cooldown windows because it at least feels like something we are doing... I know it's pointless.

[coral ibex]

i wouldn't sacrifice 3 item level on my largest main stat slot

personally

[oblique slate]

what chest should we realistically go for

[golden loom]

I mean I ran crafted helm entire last tier until I got gallywix helm

[oblique slate]

obviously it's a sim angle but this one looks kinda dope

[golden loom]

wouldnt say crafting a helm or chest is bad cause I mean u cant guarantee drops

[coral ibex]

i'd feel really bad wasting a spark and crests on a chest and then opening my vault the next tuesday to see a myth track chest

[golden loom]

okay but what if there isnt a chest there

[coral ibex]

well that doesn't fit my narrative

so

[golden loom]

I crafted helm on my DH today

[coral ibex]

im hoovering all of the leather gear in my raid

its awesome

[golden loom]

no other slot to put gilded crests into and I had a veteran track helm

[golden loom]

(will put crests into legs yes but can get 90 crests this week still)

[oak tangle]

fk u and ur myth flensing

❤️

[golden loom]

crafted weapon and then instantly got it in vault and then this week I had another weapon in vault

[oak tangle]

i got the verse haste weapon myth i tihnk

[coral ibex]

DH reroller smh

[oak tangle]

can't remember been playing poe since

i'm duel speccing

i'm not traitor i swear

[golden loom]

nah I am just gaming alts this season 😎

[oak tangle]

can't seem to get a good frac parse

dunno why

[coral ibex]

get chosen for fewer breaks

shadowstep the boss every time you get the break to never lose uptime

[oblique slate]

can just shadowstep back, no? i really dont think its a struggle

[oak tangle]

not even that, i think it just shitty kill timers

[oblique slate]

it just has to be timers

[glass spade]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[oblique slate]

got a rank 3 in my normal run today

[oak tangle]

been 4 min kill timers twice now

averaging 91

if we can cut 30s off, i'll be chillin

[neat flame]

sanity check, does shadow stepping through the beam on dawnbreaker first boss count as crossing it? I've had a couple times where I step to a party memebr who is clearly in open space, and I am too, but yet I pick up the beam debuff

however, maybe im just blind in one eye

[coral ibex]

yes

[unborn rain]

yes

[coral ibex]

you can't step over it

[oak tangle]

TIL

[unborn rain]

halkias tho u can im p sure

[neat flame]

i believe so

[oak tangle]

i bet you can blink it though on mage

[coral ibex]

im pretty sure its some kind of zone check and if you leave your quadrant you get the debuff

or is shadowstep coded as a dash and not a teleport

[proper seal]

is there a reason why we craft wrists over for example a belt?

[coral ibex]

yea you started this season with a 701 belt already

[unborn rain]

mythic first boss drops a belt

[coral ibex]

that is better than most 710 belts

[oblique slate]

when is the belt nerf

[coral ibex]

11.2.5

[oblique slate]

any ETA on that?

[celest crescent]

any weap enchant changes with the new buff?

[oblique slate]

what buff

[oak tangle]

710 socketted phase belt, beats disc

just

... 😢

[coral ibex]

no you were already playing the crit or mastery enchants + mana oils

[humble verge]

WE PADDED ON SOULBINDER LETS GO

[coral ibex]

bro i never even SEE adds to pad on

my raid explodes the adds so hard they're gone before half my cds tick

sometimes i can barely get a dry shiv on more than 1 target

[humble verge]

not having 99ers in your run

kinda crazy

[coral ibex]

[spice spire]

99s on destro and BM I sleep

[verbal granite]

I see some m+ players use netherprism as assa as well. Is that preferred over forge or should I simply just listen to sim and rock my Pacemaker + Forge? (Have so'leah myth, lily, forge, nether, ara'kara too)

[clever sparrow]

how do people use netherprism at the start of boss fights?

like its 1 / 2 stacks at the early

[humble verge]

we forgot to pop the last 2 before everything else pops, cause tanks kinda griefed by going slow over to them

so we everyone got to pad :3

[humble verge]

i went from 6,2 log to 7,2 log

[regal ice]

Yo new ass lover here with a dumb question. For sims do I just use dungeonslice for everything or is the patchwork sim actually good for ST shiz?

[humble verge]

patchwerk for ST yes

1 boss 5 minutes or more

depending what kinda boss you wanna sim idk

but like 5 min works

[regal ice]

pog, thanks

[humble verge]

@coral ibex they are wiping on loomi

im sitting out

[ornate pond]

In one of my raids a shaman won the ring and kept it and another DPS lost his shit

It was exactly like this lol

[coral ibex]

this week's loomi kill

[humble verge]

goated

btw nooj

im #6 on murlok

[coral ibex]

i usually shadowstep out to a ranged for the big purple circle

[humble verge]

[coral ibex]

somehow my focus got cleared

[humble verge]

bruh

LOL

[coral ibex]

so i just stepped to under the boss

"ok nobody else can die like nooj just did thanks guys"

[nocturne quail]

who else up getting baited by the new pin

[ornate pond]

Shadowspeaker is pretty rough too, forced downtime and pure single-target

[coral ibex]

big

[humble verge]

me when

bro says "gooder"

[coral ibex]

i suck at m+ so ill never be up there

[humble verge]

[coral ibex]

i am the #1 rogue on my server cluster tho

[clever sparrow]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2ZkMm9hpWP64VyBA?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=42 why i am bad

[coral ibex]

[humble verge]

tf kinda server u on

[coral ibex]

one that a boost community can't even mail me gold on

[humble verge]

lmao

[coral ibex]

i have to use an alt to receive payments

[humble verge]

well

i did have to make a lvl 10 on kazzak and tarrenmill

[lyric vale]

Hahahaha

[humble verge]

1 for subcommunity

the other for legacy

[coral ibex]

this character has been on laughing skull since 2008 so

[humble verge]

are you on like

oh

youre on daggerspine related

lmao

i was on Talnivarr back in the day

[coral ibex]

im NA so i think its gilneas connected

[humble verge]

oh ure NA

[coral ibex]

LS/elune/chogall/gilneas

sometimes it means i can snipe cheap stuff on the AH but usually it means there's nothing on my AH

[clever sparrow]

anyone?

💔

[humble verge]

[oak tangle]

netherprism 6 seconds into dm, second shiv delayed by 5s, on pull

[clever sparrow]

netherprism had 1 stack 😭

[coral ibex]

first shiv at 7s

2nd at 20s

[oak tangle]

i know, it's not really of use there, but weird timing nonetheless

[coral ibex]

that is just not right

you dont shiv the end of your 45s kb

you shiv like 2 seconds in

you pot on your 1:30 dm for some reason

and your 2nd shiv in that dm was late too

you need to track your buffs better

[oak tangle]

also not hitting for half of your 50s kb

[coral ibex]

you shiv randomly

a lot of this is just wrong

[clever sparrow]

(i forgot to use on first one)

[clever sparrow]

intermission

push back phase

should i save?

[oak tangle]

oh shit im a bug abuser

i looked at my log

[main bridge]

You’re not really benefitting from a shiv if you use it and then can’t do anything for like 30s

[oak tangle]

i get kb to send at 41s

suss

[coral ibex]

you should try to replicate this every time

[rough rapids]

how much % roughly is the attuned to the Aether for us?

[coral ibex]

8s between your shivs in DM

always

shiv is 8s you should be refreshing it instantly

[oak tangle]

how did you make ur timeline more time

oh nvm

KEK

[coral ibex]

lmao thats a funny sentence to read

interstellar stuff

[oak tangle]

rip my opener to shreds

where my seal fate at 🙁

[fallow canopy]

you didn't bind your fate hard enough

[oak tangle]

unlucky bozo go next

[fallow canopy]

unlucky

[regal ice]

How bad is it to play FB for all bosses in Manaforge? I just really prefer it in raids

[coral ibex]

you can play anything in heroic

[regal ice]

I just switch to caustic when there is AOE

[void pecan]

Correct.

[oak tangle]

play what you prefer 🙂 similar to how tmog is a 10% dps buff, same applies to palying what you find fun

[regal ice]

Yeh idk I really like DS bleed build in dungeons it just feels trash in raids

DS that is, not the bleed build

[uneven plume]

saw a new pin, thought it was bug fixes, was some random yap

[oak tangle]

i agree, i just went a step further and play sub instead

[uneven plume]

sadge

[regal ice]

I still need to try sub tbh, first time playing rogue since BFA

[hot pasture]

idk how im simingh better 23k crit and 14 k mastery in single target

[oak tangle]

Sorry, what?

[coral ibex]

because fb prefers crit over mastery

[royal lantern]

FAKE STAT

just crit bozo

[raven sonnet]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[weary stump]

The real stat buff is gained by calling loomithar mommy and saying would in your raid chat

[regal ice]

Whatever it takes to get antenna tbh

[spice spire]

[waxen oyster]

i have mythi pace

so im prob so far down the list

on antenna prio

[oak tangle]

my dh has myth pace and antenna, ez

to clarify not myth antenna, i dont fuckin do mythic

[marsh fjord]

Do we do anything with the new enchant, i havent really looked into it

[waxen oyster]

my warrior has hc antenna

[analog owl]

yo

[waxen oyster]

also sims 4.850 at 700 ilvl

rogue is so dog ahahaha

[analog owl]

can yall compare these logs and tell me if im doing something wrong

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7YVRvApxZzwdbGqh?fight=53&type=damage-done this one was like when i had worse gear, https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1J2A6vNn4XwMmQfR?fight=3&type=damage-done slightly better gear i got the 4 set piece here

[marsh fjord]

Why are you not usign the compare function?

in logs?

[analog owl]

oh shit, thats a thing

[hot pasture]

how u fix the cd bug in ur rotation? u hold ?

[novel star]

yeah

[unreal tide]

Watch cold blood timer and send based on that

[novel star]

line up kb with cb

[hot pasture]

okioki

[novel star]

[waxen oyster]

entire opener is wrong

[hot juniper]

cheap shot o.O

🤢

[waxen oyster]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1J2A6vNn4XwMmQfR?fight=3&type=casts&source=25&view=timeline

[main bridge]

Bro is trying to pvp the boss

[waxen oyster]

dm kb randomly 20seconds late

[royal lantern]

hey, it builds CP

[analog owl]

i dont remember cheap shotting it xD

[hot juniper]

it def happened lol

and yeah KB and CB not being used in the first 20 seconds is wild work

[waxen oyster]

also having a trinket that effectively is half a trinket

passive mainstat and no damage or stat proc

[analog owl]

yeah i havent got anything better

[hot juniper]

and to be fair, if you genuinely dont have much of an idea how to do your opener, hekilli gets it pretty close to optimal

[waxen oyster]

is the delve vendor never been up

[hot juniper]

but not exactly optimal

[frozen iris]

In warcraft logs is there a way to see casts while watching a replay of a specific person?

[analog owl]

so should i replace my netherprism?

[main bridge]

It’s up at the end of every delve if you have it unlocked

[cyan dew]

if i'm about to burst, I don't have energy and my envenom will expire before KB/DM, should I prioritize keeping envenom up or w/e just burst and use envenom during it?

[waxen oyster]

you dont replace prism

you replace the shit leech trinke

[hot juniper]

yeah dont replace NP its honestly super goated

[analog owl]

yeah true

i just be slapping gear on ngl

is there something better maybe a craftable?

[hot juniper]

just go do floodgate 6s or higher and get a pacemaker

spam em

its good enough to hold you off until you get any of the better passive trinkets

[analog owl]

ok bet

[waxen oyster]

that or buy the voidshard or soulbreaker sigil from delve trinket vendor

[analog owl]

is he in dornogal?

[main bridge]

#assassination message

[analog owl]

i might not have it unlocked

[main bridge]

Ya it’s on the delvers journey. Might need to do more delves

You’ll probably see every trinket by the time you unlock the vendor which is kinda funny

[knotty vapor]

someone brought up that it was weird my disc belt sims lower than the 704 raid belt, so I went to confirm this morning, and yes, it does

is that weird?

(they both have same gem socketed)

[night vessel]

so logs are 50/50. whats the best bet for mythic forgeweaver?

fatebound or ds?

[fallow canopy]

[main bridge]

[knotty vapor]

?

[fallow canopy]

that seems to be the wrong belt thingie

[knotty vapor]

do we not run the mastery one?

[waxen oyster]

have you simmed

most people play critical chain

[knotty vapor]

i swear the guide said the mastery one

am i trippin

[fallow canopy]

ngl I thought it was the bolts bs so that's on me but what xiani said too

[knotty vapor]

was this changed

[fallow canopy]

it has been the critical one since the change to bolts iirc but like the mastery one could sim better depending on your gear and stuff

but most people run the critical one

[knotty vapor]

I haven't looked at that section of the guide since the patch hit

[fallow canopy]

at the end of the day the answer is, as always

https://tenor.com/view/skate-kanji-cat-gif-18361256103636562809

[knotty vapor]

yeah that do be what im doin

nope lol even the crit one loses

[waxen oyster]

Yeah no idea for you

thats how much i gain for a mythic belt maxed

[fallow canopy]

[knotty vapor]

wild

[fallow canopy]

same

[knotty vapor]

do you socket your primary stat gem into disc?

[main bridge]

Link the sim. Are you including gems for the belt socket?

[knotty vapor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/esMUbYD8iZNJU39f1rJhCp

[waxen oyster]

no im planning to switch my gems

…once they stop charging 5k

[ornate pond]

Exactly how much better is sub supposed to be in ST? I'm seeing a difference of like 2.7-2.9m in bleed build (simming for M+) versus 3.4-3.5m or so in sub which seems really big, if that's how it is that's fine just wondering if I'm messing something up

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7fincANoDFW5ZWibq5CWAW

[knotty vapor]

the gems are the same in both belts, they both have socket. Is there something I'm supposed to do to make sure the sim knows that?

[main bridge]

You have to have gems selected and possibly “replace gems” checked

[waxen oyster]

sub will do more if you’re planning around its cds

assa can do pretty high damage on aoe with almost no commitment

[knotty vapor]

this means it's selected right?

[main bridge]

No

Click on it and the background will change

[knotty vapor]

okay then I have no idea what you mean

[fallen charm]

new pin baited me

[knotty vapor]

oh wtf...

[cyan summit]

macro finally works!

[knotty vapor]

so are you saying the sim just ignores all existing socketed gems unless you do this?

[main bridge]

No it’s just that if you want to add gems to the gear you are simming you need to select gems

And if you’re replacing you need to check the box

[knotty vapor]

I don't need to add or replace gems

they both have the same gem socketed

[fallow canopy]

sim looks good you are fine

[knotty vapor]

okay thank you

[waxen oyster]

Yeah idk whats causing it then

not sure if races impact when to drop belt

[normal mist]

Me: sees new pin
Me gets hyped
Me: oh... its just so people understand how to play.

[fallow canopy]

prob the 3 pieces of jewelry with heavy crit and the pissmaker dropping the value

[waxen oyster]

might be

i only have one heavy crit jewel item

logic alpha

[lyric vale]

question can we stack nether prism before boss and send it on boss?

in raid

[main bridge]

no

[lyric vale]

aight

finally got it in nm

yippie

[fallow canopy]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/o8MZafxrmPnr8BMyf9QnPN simmed with all the other items that were on your top gear

[dapper hound]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[knotty vapor]

ah so it is the rings then

alrighty ty

[ancient ingot]

@velvet cairn i try bleed build and its rly up my dps in keys and now im not baboon without dps, ty for reccomendation

[knotty vapor]

did whispyr call u monkey too?

[ancient ingot]

me?

[royal lantern]

god i love reddit sometimes

[knotty vapor]

ignore me hahah just a meme

[earnest remnant]

did whispyr get flamed on reddit

for calling people shit xD

[ancient ingot]

im just not understand memes from wow because i play only 3 weeks

[knotty vapor]

no someone else got flamed by whispyr, then went to reddit

#assassination message

much context above

[half moss]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[ancient ingot]

can someone explain 1 thing, today i take antena from vault, how this trinket working, i always should take some purple balls or what

[knotty vapor]

that's correct

[royal lantern]

idk, saw a reddit post about somebody ranting about the state of rogue, and then it was just the ussual "i wanna be OP like frost dk but cant be op like frost dk, REALZ MUST LISTEN NOW" and for some reason started to dunk on whisp

aka

reddit

talking about rogue

[knotty vapor]

lil purple balls spawn around you and you pick them up

[royal lantern]

the ussual stuff

[earnest remnant]

lol

[severe meadow]

Purple orb spawns, floats to you, pick up, get crit

[coral ibex]

howling

[ancient ingot]

but for key i saw ball only once maybe because im blind or idk

[severe meadow]

Def spawns more than once

[knotty vapor]

im afraid you might be blind then

they defs spawn a lot

[waxen oyster]

#assassination message

the post

[severe meadow]

You can get a WA that tracks when it spawns / how many you have but you really don’t need all that

[waxen oyster]

for anyone that wants to backread

[sick scarab]

!shiv

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[knotty vapor]

they should remove the mastery buff from tea imo

that ability is confused about wtf its supposed to be for

[ancient ingot]

now im learning game and trying focus on buttons interrupts and something like that, bit hard to see orbs, maybe because i take this trinket today

can i get WA for spawn orbs?

[knotty vapor]

it's a lot to take in all at once, if you're still learning just don't worry about it

just know it's working fine

the orbs come to you, so unless you're actively running away from them you'll be picking them up

[royal lantern]

^

[ancient ingot]

so if its big pull or boss all guchi and orbs coming anyway ?

[knotty vapor]

yeah

you don't really need to think about it, there's usually more important stuff to pay attention to

[ancient ingot]

true but im trying my best and improve my dps