assassination

[royal lantern]

getting a a 28 tails spree and being #1 dps made me feel so shit

like, legit pissed

i wanna do dmg because i play good

not because "lol coinflips where good xd"

who the fuck thought its a thematic cool idea

[spice surge]

Bro got flipped off

[coral ibex]

i lost to a rogue with -4 ilvl on fractillus normal bc this mfer hit a 20 coin streak off the opener and i got my lucky and then flipped 1's the whole pull

[scarlet orbit]

I dont track the coins so i noticed later if i got good rng or not 🙂

[oak tangle]

is there an easy way to check flip streaks?

[royal lantern]

i hate uncontrollable RNG with a passion

and fatebound is the worst because you can literally see it all the time

[coral ibex]

a weakaura

[oak tangle]

nothing for logs?

[spice surge]

Stop tracking it

[royal lantern]

kinda dont wanna disable details, ngl

[orchid pewter]

you should

[spice surge]

I meant the coins

But ye you could do details too

[royal lantern]

boss dead and seeing tails flip as #2 dmg done

bruh

just alt f4 at that point

[scarlet orbit]

spec sub

[umbral sigil]

I mean isnt sub performing better than FB in ST anyway

[royal lantern]

trading missery with self mutilation is not a good tradeoff imo

[spice surge]

Not really no

[fallow canopy]

In pure st no

[scarlet orbit]

Very true

[royal lantern]

sub is performing overall better because most fights are not pure ST and this raid is filled with dmg amps + short duration burst aoe situations

in raw st FB assa is iirc slightly better

aka i can cope again that aoe is padding and im doing ethical dmg

[marsh fjord]

HAHAHAHA

What if i tell you im already in therapy

and its not getting any better

[royal lantern]

too real

[agile geode]

lol

[nocturne quail]

peoples take away from whispyr vid is that sin is unplayable

[nocturne quail]

i dont get

[royal lantern]

somebody had a WA to calculate how much money a flask costs based on token prices

[oak tangle]

best i got was 13

[dense cedar]

puts into perspective how cheap this stuff actually is

[dense cedar]

crazy to have as as a chat message tho

[river vapor]

so is bleed build just awful in ST or is there a different way to play it to not be so awful

[dense cedar]

Have tank pull onto boss

[coral ibex]

its just bad in ST

you need funnel

you are one of the best funnel specs in the game

[royal lantern]

assa is overall low dmg boss dmg in m+

cant really change that much

bleed IS one of the better builds in that regard even

[dense cedar]

tank jumped away jsut as one of the big guys in floodgate started his TB

i went straight to the grave

[oak tangle]

what enables the funnel? I know CT scales

[dense cedar]

Singular Focus

[static glacier]

singular focus, extra ct, fok cp gen

[stuck marsh]

We splash quite a bit, but we benefit from targets on crimson tempest.

[royal lantern]

singular focus

more cp generation

more dmg on CT

more agility from scent of blood

[unreal tide]

Is this still true with the bug on singular focus?

[royal lantern]

it still does dmg

just less then it should do

[dense cedar]

singular focus still works for non caustic spatter damage

[unreal tide]

Still good prio, but not 'best in game' is my questioning

[dense cedar]

which is still a lot from CT and other bleeds

just not as super gaming as it was before

[static glacier]

arcane and havoc are better

we're third best

[royal lantern]

i mean, assa wasnt really best in game aswell

arcane/dh exists

[coral ibex]

"one of"

[royal lantern]

damm Mo is faster

[static glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/jaja-hahaha-run-running-running-away-gif-21119317

tbh we did beat them on boss dmg in raid with adds before

ovinax is the big example

this singualar focus bug atm mainly hurts our raid funnel

a lot of our m+ aoe comes from bleeds which still work thankfully

[weary spear]

Then play a different spec lol

[dense cedar]

i like doing aoe damage in the aoe damage game mode

[static glacier]

might I introduce you to outlaw and sub:?

[royal lantern]

its just how it is rn

[oak tangle]

i too want to go back to sin top st dps spec

[weary spear]

We gap both on prio mobs in dungeons in my experience

[royal lantern]

idk, be happy that assa is good in m+ for a good while now

[static glacier]

depends on dm / shiv

[oak tangle]

but then i remember the seasons on seasons, of not being invited to keys because our aoe was less than healers

[static glacier]

with em sure, but arcane funnel esp in execute is illegal

we can't match it assuming equal skill

[weary spear]

Yeah but overall dungeon

[dense cedar]

good ol days when our AoE was just

[weary spear]

If you look at details of prio mobs

[dense cedar]

Poison bomb rng

perfect M+ spec

[static glacier]

issue is I feel like im just better than the arcane mages I've played with

so hard to compare

[weary spear]

That is true also

[static glacier]

skill variable is a problem, gear etc etc

[spice surge]

Definitely can once they fix the singular focus

[oak tangle]

our aoe was FoK into CT, and fuck CT being a dot, just keep pressing it

[weary spear]

Thanks eleem

[spice surge]

On PTR assa were generally gapping arcane in prio damage

[static glacier]

hello eleem from the future

and ye, before the bug we did beat them and were bis funnel imo

[weary spear]

That’s what I figured from my comp

[static glacier]

spatter is top dmg in keys

biggest souce of singular focus alongside ct

[weary spear]

Yeah we defs aren’t third best prio in the game

[dense cedar]

singular focus fix gonna lead so some kinda SBS bug somehow

[static glacier]

rn we are

due to bugs

[weary spear]

Yes

Agree

I just keep thinking they’ll fix it right away

Lmao

[static glacier]

without the bugs I do think we go back to being bis, arcane's funnel doesn't scale as much as ours in aoe

[sharp trellis]

Hi all , i am using Cev plater profile for m+ , the plater seem perfect for 4/6 target but once it's start to be 8+ ( which happens in a lot of dungeons like ara etc ) i feel like i can't see crucial cast or important spawn target anymore... anyone know what i can change for fix that ?

[fickle latch]

Does shiv buff Wound poison and if so whats the max heal reduction we can get on it ?

[main bridge]

it sucks in PVE and you shouldn't use it

but if you don't care about doing damage you could spec into improved wound poison i guess

[marsh fjord]

On mini boss in HOA can actually be worth it

[main bridge]

you coudl just kill him too

[fickle latch]

Actualy a friend was asking just because that bos on HoA

[icy shoal]

Hello, will the bugs on assa be fixed or has it not yet been announced?
Because I train assa and I have no dmg

[main bridge]

that's a skill issue unrelated to bugs

[scenic nacelle]

you think we are getting bug fixed

[marsh fjord]

You can. but pugs dont do damp

[main bridge]

so your solution is to also do no dam

glad i do not pug

you reduce healing to the miniboss and make it a 20 minute fight

[spice vale]

Can anyone explain how raidbots is telling me that Haste rings are what I want and not crit/mastery?

[oak tangle]

you could... also do the fight correctly

[normal mist]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[normal mist]

@spice vale read above

[spice vale]

hmm interesting

thank you

[normal mist]

Wanting more of X doesn't mean the other stats are bad

If you have too much of X, Y starts being more desirable

The Sims do the Maths for you

[marsh fjord]

@midnight mist stop afking

[normal mist]

If sims tell you enough CRIT Mastery, it's because haste/vers will give you more dps

[midnight mist]

waiting for raid

20h30

[spice vale]

I just have 25% haste and 30% crit

figured that was way to much haste

[oak tangle]

does 20h30 mean 8:30?

[marsh fjord]

What boss your blasting broski

[marsh fjord]

yes

[normal mist]

It also depends on what you're simming

[oak tangle]

so h = : in french?

[marsh fjord]

nah its just digital time bru

[spice vale]

fatebound/single target raid spec

[midnight mist]

dimencock

[storm forum]

When do we start recommending stat weight sims again?

[normal mist]

Never

[storm forum]

[normal mist]

My Sims stopped asking for CRIT at about 40ish and instead of more CRIT it now wants versa p.e

[marsh fjord]

suck it all up bro

[oak tangle]

can we recommend stat weights sims, but the output is always guranteed to be ascii art of whispyr dancing in that costume

[shy axle]

can you prestack prism for a key or is it deleted when the key starts

[graceful solstice]

Deleted

[marsh fjord]

its deleted when the gates open

[spice spire]

When you come back to rogue full time (never)

🥀

[oak tangle]

is it deleted for raid bosses?

[marsh fjord]

Yes

when combat starts

it resets

[oak tangle]

that's dog

[marsh fjord]

nah its good

[oak tangle]

i bet spymasters didnt do that

[marsh fjord]

i dont fucking want to hit a turnip

every time we pull

lol

[minor coyote]

Can anyone help me a bit with mythic + rotation, i did watch the guide and i think i have the general idea, but some pulls feel ass, some don't etc it's just weird

[marsh fjord]

thats what the wowhead guide for is bro

[minor coyote]

i looked at it 10 times

and it's just idk, not clocking in why im messing up sometimes, thus why im asking

[coral ibex]

link a log or we cant help much

[oak tangle]

can ask, can't promise help

[main bridge]

you could post some logs and we can tell you what's going on

[minor coyote]

im not sure how to send logs?

from details you mean?

(sorry im stil new to the game)

[main bridge]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/how-to-use-warcraft-logs-6341

[oak tangle]

details screen shot of damage breakdown works

[main bridge]

no it doesn't

[oak tangle]

but it's limited info

[coral ibex]

you can't determine a rotation from a details breakdown

[oak tangle]

no, but you can tell if somethis is cooked

aka, no / low ct or caustic

[dense cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/its-over-its-genuinely-over-seal-sad-seal-breaking-news-gif-243396507301445550

[minor coyote]

example... i guess since thats what i have now

ill look into the log thingy

[dense cedar]

[oak tangle]

what was your overal dps

[minor coyote]

it's on the left i believe

4.59?

[oak tangle]

im blind, ty though

[marsh fjord]

Here. you can screenshot this.

You go in. Ambush. garrote, garrote, rupture, rupture, CT - MUT. deathmark - shiv - vanish, garrote, garrote, and put all your damage in your main target with keeping up causic spatter. and shiv again 11 seconds later if you have 4p.

[cedar rampart]

Hello, can someone explain to me the bug of the rogué asa?

[marsh fjord]

pins

[oak tangle]

what in particular felt ass? just your damage or more of an energy thing

[minor coyote]

one big question is do i swap targets...?

[marsh fjord]

You can

bot no needed

[minor coyote]

with what though?

[marsh fjord]

How you mean with what

[minor coyote]

like more enhanced rupture/garrote?

[marsh fjord]

with your ruptures and garrotes

you always put your main damage in your mark target

[wide quail]

Why we double garrote?

[marsh fjord]

The most important thing is that you have 5 ruptures out for 20% agi

[oak tangle]

i mean i slam quad garrotes if pack is big enough

[marsh fjord]

For more garrotes out

[minor coyote]

does it always apply to newever targets on its own?

or refresh current

[oak tangle]

both

[minor coyote]

how does it actually work

[wide quail]

Double garrotes on the same main target?

[weary spear]

Yeh it’s ambush garrote rupture rupture usually

Can slam same target doesn’t matter really

[minor coyote]

and why twice rupture? i get back max points back on first rupture, shouldnt i tempest?

[oak tangle]

if you cast it on one target, it will put out 3, if you press it on same target again, it will refresh on main target and put out 2 more

[wide quail]

Other 2 targets? It means total of 5

[oak tangle]

with 2 casts on one target yes

if you swap to a target without it, you can get 6

[weary spear]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[weary spear]

Just read

[minor coyote]

do i like care about the death stalker stacks throught the pack pull?

like do i want to envenom

[dense cedar]

yes

[oak tangle]

i need to unpakc that question, why would you think we dont?

[weary spear]

Yeah but minmaxing carnage window is important so sometimes it won’t be perfect

[minor coyote]

so i guess the envenom is after this opening

[oak tangle]

yeah, you have some maintenance stuff to do on pull

[cedar rampart]

Pins?

[marsh fjord]

Envenom comes super late.

[minor coyote]

when i ambush i get the 3 deathstalker marks, i should use all 3 of those marks

for CT?

[coral ibex]

no

what

[oak tangle]

that is not how DSM works

[coral ibex]

you should read the guide again

i think you might not have read it

as thoroughly as you think

[minor coyote]

i didn't mean instantly, but when the combo points fill up to the purple part

aka 7th combo

[oak tangle]

CT does not consume DSM

[wide quail]

I have 1 more question. If Scent of Blood is important, why I focus on multiple Garrotes not Ruptures?

[weary spear]

Garrottes a builder

They’re different

[oak tangle]

also garrote does a fucktonne of damage

[minor coyote]

it does consume it though, when i press CT

[royal lantern]

apply your poisons buddy

[minor coyote]

i just went quickly to check if it consumed

[haughty pewter]

For me it depends on if the ambush crits or not, because a crit will have me skip straight to rupture.

Ambush, Rupture, Rupture, Garrote, Garrote, CT, Shiv, Deathmark, Mutilate, Envenom

[marsh fjord]

every finisher consumes a mark bro

so also CT

you just want to apply CT one time.

[oak tangle]

bruh since when

or am i just cooked

like i see the tooltip so i agree

[marsh fjord]

How you mean since when?

[oak tangle]

but i swear it didnt

[minor coyote]

thats what i mean

[weary spear]

CT always consumes mark

[minor coyote]

i got confused

by the comment

above

i was like, am i that much cooked

[haughty pewter]

Finishers w 5+ combo points

[marsh fjord]

ALso you dont want to refresh CT

Because it snapshots

[subtle tundra]

romanian puta

[marsh fjord]

If you do a CT on 5 targets. and then do a CT on 1 target. it will do less damage.

because its 20% per target capped at 5

[minor coyote]

so i should only use it when it's 5targets and if its about to expire

never when it's only one target, if i already have the one going

[marsh fjord]

Thats why bringing adds is so good on the boss

[minor coyote]

with the 5 stacks

[marsh fjord]

you press CT on 3 targets

so it has an increase of 60%

and if the adds are dead and you CT again

it will be only normal value

[minor coyote]

it goes back to 20

[wide quail]

I assume the third finisher is CT into cds into vanish into normal rotation.

[minor coyote]

i see.

[marsh fjord]

so you let that CT

fall off

and then reapply it

[minor coyote]

why do we double garrot/rupture on opener

[marsh fjord]

You should always use it

[minor coyote]

i have the points to cast from one

[marsh fjord]

but you just dont refresh it

if you just did a max stack one

[thorny bison]

!gear

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1405681489470951594/sin_.webp

[marsh fjord]

you refresh it when its ended again

[dense cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/its-over-its-genuinely-over-seal-sad-seal-breaking-news-gif-243396507301445550

[coral ibex]

your weakaura pack should indicate how many targets your CT is snapshot to

if it doesn't, it should

[marsh fjord]

i just do it normally lol

[minor coyote]

really do be over

im confused by the opener u mentioned numbers

when i double rupture i lose points

[dense cedar]

[minor coyote]

and i dont have enough for CT

[coral ibex]

have you looked at the opener

[marsh fjord]

yeah then you double garrote.

[coral ibex]

on the wowhead guide

[marsh fjord]

and then you CT

[coral ibex]

again, you should refer to the guide

because you seem to be confused by the basics

and the guide goes over them very well

[marsh fjord]

i agree 😄

but he went over it

and still was confused

thats why i try to help 😄

[oak tangle]

garrote + indiscriminate carange === more cp

[coral ibex]

look at this graphic

[minor coyote]

i have it saved yeah

[coral ibex]

ok so do you notice how it has 2 builders

between the 2nd rupture

and CT

garrote or fok depending on how many targets have garrote

[minor coyote]

im confused by the comment under also, it means that if the targets are already bleeding, i should FoK instead?

[coral ibex]

if you have garrote on all targets, you fok instead

if you have 5 targets

you will garrote all 5 after 2 uses

so you would fok

[minor coyote]

okay, so that's clear now , we go into mutilate after CT to give CP that's fine

[oak tangle]

i have put the number of mobs for where you would decide to use agian

[coral ibex]

you mutilate to apply caustic spatter

[minor coyote]

then death mark after all bleeds/poisons are on the target

then shiv only if it's 2/2

[woeful galleon]

is sub just better than sin due to bugs?

[coral ibex]

what is "just better"

[woeful galleon]

just overall dmg

[coral ibex]

unlikely

[woeful galleon]

like I got 2 set felt great now 4 set and damage just feels the same

[oak tangle]

anecdotally, i had higher overalls on sub, until the dungeons i was walking into we were pulling 9-10 mobs at once

[woeful galleon]

feel like sub does more damage in m+ and sin better in raid?

[coral ibex]

idk you probably arent playing around shiv in m+ then

[woeful galleon]

I mean I dont use it with darkest night ever since 4 set

only to consume stacks the only change i see

[oak tangle]

umm

what

2 more seconds

on a mega damage amp

[coral ibex]

it introduces a lot more energy into the rotation bc you get more DN's

and that also means more big envenoms

[woeful galleon]

ya ik

but i just dont feel it

https://imgur.com/LRDlvfR

[coral ibex]

caustic looks pretty low

[oak tangle]

your top 4 abilities are buffed by it wdym

[coral ibex]

on that breakdown

tbh

[woeful galleon]

i mean im talking about my envenoms

https://imgur.com/LyjQp4e

[serene solar]

Sin is pumping brotha

[coral ibex]

max 10m envenom?

wtf

thats low

whats ur ilvl

[main bridge]

you should probably just play sub if you like it more

[coral ibex]

also that

[woeful galleon]

https://imgur.com/QAnIpWs

[dense cedar]

hmmmm

[woeful galleon]

but isnt sub bad in raid

[coral ibex]

no

[main bridge]

not at all

[coral ibex]

its very strong on at least 3 of the fights

and the highest fract rogue log is a sub log

by like 5%

[serene solar]

Imo it’s preference though. I feel like I’m blasting on both sub and assa. But I know assa better so it does a little more than sub. But I bet if I was as good at sub as I am assa then it would be close

[coral ibex]

here's a 14 flood i did https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bqR21yjnmpLFJgZz?fight=8&type=damage-done&source=3

just saying, caustic looks low

rupture too

rupture below garrote is somewhat alarming

maybe im wrong

[oak tangle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BgHdTNQDM9jVPJ7w?fight=126&type=damage-done&source=435
yooo floodgate twins, you're only 4 keys higher

[minor coyote]

i see, i just tested the opener @marsh fjord you mentioned, well that's well known... my CT should proc the last DS mark correct?

sorry if im annoying

[autumn idol]

you are

[marsh fjord]

Your not annoying its good to ask qeustions.

But it doesnt matter if your CT procs it.

[autumn idol]

you should evilmaxx and play into peoples insecurities

[marsh fjord]

Nah 😄

[minor coyote]

how do you know this person

[autumn idol]

one of the bigger r words i met

a colleague

[marsh fjord]

Just try to get your ruptures out your garrotes out. get your CT out. get your caustic spatter out

[minor coyote]

my colleague from work

[marsh fjord]

then deathmark

[minor coyote]

💀

what

[autumn idol]

ah hell nah

[minor coyote]

ah.

hell

nah.

[marsh fjord]

guys have the same workplace

and they donteven know it

lol

[coral ibex]

these 2 are in a teams meeting at work rn

together

[minor coyote]

[marsh fjord]

yeah

prob

[coral ibex]

"how do you know my boss"

[autumn idol]

compamy hires 5000 employees here

[coral ibex]

"my boss is an idiot"

[marsh fjord]

is this this show

where your boss

[rapid sandal]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[marsh fjord]

goes undercover or something

[coral ibex]

this is a prank

look

there's a camera

[autumn idol]

i wish

[minor coyote]

Im getting pranked

💀

[coral ibex]

☝️

[marsh fjord]

Im gonna let my dog out

fuck you all

[coral ibex]

that numbers guy

he's a camera

im a camera

everyone's a camera

[minor coyote]

both of us said a colleague

yet we dont know we are colleagues too

💀

[autumn idol]

well

used to be

[minor coyote]

🐐

[autumn idol]

i moved away from anything desk related a while ago

[minor coyote]

goated response, head up king

[wide quail]

I have a question, if there is a m+ boss with high priority low hp 4 or 5 adds, what is the best way to kill them?

[marsh fjord]

yeah now your under it

[minor coyote]

nothing changed, still the same shithole if not worse

[autumn idol]

[coral ibex]

vanish and spread bleeds + CT

[minor coyote]

anywaysa, after this brainfuckery numbers..

my CT procs my last DS mark from the opener

[kindred breach]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[minor coyote]

the i mutilate to apply caustic spatter, into DM, and then shiv

and im now on 0 marks, and need 7 combo points to re-apply it corrrecto?

[autumn idol]

yes

thats how darknest night works

[coral ibex]

you will have many CP after you shiv in AOE

[autumn idol]

depends how many crits you get

[oak tangle]

just curious, why are we worrying about what procs the deathstalker marks?

[autumn idol]

idfk

[coral ibex]

youll get a lot bc of master assassin

[autumn idol]

relying on rng

[minor coyote]

yeah, the shiv usually gets my 7/7

then i envenom right? to re-apply the mark

[coral ibex]

its not a joke

lol

[autumn idol]

i know

[coral ibex]

walk up to a pack of 10 and shiv

tell me how many cp you get

[autumn idol]

but ive had situations where i get 1-3

not often but happens

[minor coyote]

even with 3 that im testing now i got 7/7

mutilate+shiv on 3 gave me 7 CP

and now we are here

i envenom, deathstlaker is active again.. and the biggest question of them all

now what...?

i did the opener perfectly, i set up everthing, main target has DM, mobs are all poisoned/bleeding

[autumn idol]

if you are in ID window keep dotting

[oak tangle]

envenom 5+

[autumn idol]

if you are not fok envenom and keep up spatter

IC window or whatever

[coral ibex]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps#aoe-priority

[minor coyote]

so the "regular rotation" is basically spend the DS points with envenom.... and keep up bleeds/poisons?

[coral ibex]

follow the aoe priority list

[autumn idol]

yes

and yes

[oak tangle]

i dont mean to be rude, but you cannot hav read the guide

[coral ibex]

which is to keep up bleeds and cast CDs on CD

[minor coyote]

thing is i am reading it, i have 2 weeks into this game that i never touched in my life, it's just complete sensory overload and infinite amount of information

i just can't seem to make it click in my brain when the time comes

[autumn idol]

bro got groomed into wow

sad

[coral ibex]

you are trying to keep many spinning plates up in the air

those plates are

bleeds

caustic

DN/DSM marks

and your cd's

[minor coyote]

i actually did it to myself... i saw the game on 50% discount

and i grabbed it

[coral ibex]

your ui should indicate to you when your bleeds are in pandemic window, which is when you should refresh them

[minor coyote]

worst decision and best decision ever

[coral ibex]

!Pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[coral ibex]

when rupture has 7 seconds or less on it, refresh it with 5+ cp

[minor coyote]

is pandemic when my bleeds glow green on the UI?

[coral ibex]

probably, idk what ui you use

[minor coyote]

whispyr

[coral ibex]

then yea i think so

[oak tangle]

this is the ability priority

[minor coyote]

i see, thank you, i have to leave now for a birthday and i'll have to re-read this whole convo again and try it out myself, i think i finally get the whole thing, but i'll just have to cement it in my brain, especially when it's time to actually do it mid mythic.

sorry if i sound dumb ( i am for this game ) but appreciate all the answers ❤️

[haughty pewter]

What's a good Envenom crit? I've hit like 12m before.

[patent snow]

So when im doing the opener I often find myself with Darkest Night right when im about to DM. Should I handle Darkest Night before sending DM?

[hexed frost]

25M for me

[compact flame]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[oak tangle]

before/after doesn't matter, but it does matter that you have the envenom buff rolling for death mark

so if you dont have envenom buff, and you have darkest night, you would get max cp

[patent snow]

What's the envenom buff? I don't see envenom used in the opener.

[oak tangle]

poison application chance

happens when you envenom

[patent snow]

Oh I see it in single target

I was looking at AoE opener.

[safe swift]

what build do people use on forgeweaver?

[oak tangle]

sub XD

[fickle latch]

Can the Voidbound Emisary also take aoe damage or we have to switch instant ?

[oak tangle]

it can be cleaved

[warm flint]

this is getting too much hate :DDD

[runic hinge]

why's he hate assa rogues

[oak tangle]

mans crazy

were they prot or dps

[warm flint]

prot so it makes a bit sense

[oak tangle]

he hasn't played with an assass since BFA

[warm flint]

it doesnt after seeing this tho, to still ask for a sub kekw

[tawdry root]

Anyone know if we can cloak dimensius devour?

[warm flint]

you can ye

[autumn idol]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19494561

now lets see the boss damage

[humble verge]

https://github.com/ferib/WowEdgemaxxing?tab=readme-ov-file

[autumn idol]

[oak tangle]

i was meant to sleep last night (it's 5:15am) for new poe season..... i didnt sleep

new season is in 45 mins

if servers blow up, ima blow up

[autumn idol]

you shouldve gone to sleep

the gameplay's the same as poe 2 gameplay

[last skiff]

why street exist

fuck this key

[dense cedar]

such a fun time

[last skiff]

you are not real

[dense cedar]

[main bridge]

look at the URLs it uses https://github.com/ferib/WowEdgemaxxing/blob/master/Edgemaxxing/Edgemaxxing.lua#L13

only one of those three videos is even remotely sexy

[dense cedar]

?

[humble verge]

idk

i just posted cause funni

[warm flint]

this two were giga bot as can be seemed tho xd

[subtle tundra]

guys...

[dapper halo]

its monday

[royal lantern]

mate, i play this game for 18years and had that happen like, 3x in total

how do some people have it happen so often lol

[dapper halo]

https://tenor.com/view/reality-substitute-replaced-adam-savage-mythbusters-gif-10816078

[zenith elm]

???

[fallen orbit]

just yesterday like 3 times 😄

[zenith elm]

I'm playing assa rogue for like 2 years, never had that problem

[dense cedar]

me fr

[runic hinge]

[subtle tundra]

i just saw the bugs video...

so sorry you have to play this

[dense cedar]

🐛 🪱

🪲

🦂

[hard flicker]

what is the use of this vanish, if you dont garrote afterwards? am i missing something?

[dense cedar]

!dj

[prisma monolith]

Vanishing On Fatebound

• you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
• this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
• because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
• edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
• you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst

[runic hinge]

Why is the command dj

[hard flicker]

oh thanks alot

[dense cedar]

cos its the name of the talent

[runic hinge]

Oh yeah

Okay

[dapper halo]

so, second kingsbane, whats the rule, do you wait to get two shiv charges

or

do it with just one shiv

[runic hinge]

No you send last 8 seconds

[last skiff]

Bait for french

[dense cedar]

one shiv at the end yeah

[dapper halo]

do you bank second deathmark so you can put it and vanish at the same time

[dense cedar]

no, you just use vanish with the next DM

[dusty phoenix]

because they be calling us to pump it up when we drop the vanish

[runic hinge]

Real based and true

[dapper halo]

so its vanish then dm

or other way around

[dense cedar]

it literally doesn't matter

[dusty phoenix]

the command tells you what you're seeking

[dapper halo]

every three minutes

[zenith elm]

Yes

[dense cedar]

[dusty phoenix]

you hold it for the next cd window, you dont just pop vanish for nothing

and since your cd windows are every 1,5min while vanish is 2 min you pop it every 3 min

[dapper halo]

ok so, do i Also hold kingsbane for that window

[dense cedar]

no

[dapper halo]

good

[dense cedar]

you'd be holding it for an entire use otherwise

45+45 etc

[dusty phoenix]

I dont understand

why and how are you holding kb

you mean because of the 4set bug?

you pretty much send kb every 45 sec lining up with cold blood

[dapper halo]

its silly that we have to alter our gameplay this much due to bugs and so on

blizz has a game that sells gangbusters

why are they making so much decisions based on what beancounters tell them to do

"the qa department can do without that many people"

[dense cedar]

unless the bug makes u not get any cdr

u just play around cb

not much beyond that

[zenith elm]

Yeah so you still have your timings

[dapper halo]

yeah im getting better dps now

[faint shell]

Hey guys, I checked and Sudden Demise doesn’t seem to be working properly in +11 Delves.

[halcyon saddle]

Hey in bleed build in cds do you refresh your crimson tempest or just continue to envenom to get as much damage out during your mark.

[main bridge]

yes, maintain all bleeds

[nova kelp]

Ct go brrrr

[halcyon saddle]

Kk ty

[elder goblet]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[sand jewel]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[obsidian harbor]

Hi guys, any improvements for me? https://it.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vap8LqB9D1tdm2j7?fight=last&type=summary

[gusty marten]

i feel so weak in bleed build at bosses ._.

[jagged niche]

What does dungeon slice mean?

[deep gyro]

I see this comment every day lmao

[runic hinge]

And then you do 12 million every trash pack without cds and forget about bosses???

[gusty marten]

correct :X

[humble verge]

@winged sun do you just remove SD on HoA?

i feel i get no value

we got to first boss when heal dced Sadge

this was a 17

[golden loom]

do you know what the value of sudden demise is @humble verge

[humble verge]

yeah ik

[pliant remnant]

[golden loom]

(hint its not the execute)

[humble verge]

im stupid i forget

every time

i will remove it

lol!!!!!!!

[crisp venture]

what flask do u guys use?

or do u just sim it

ive just been using alchemical but idek if thats bis

[gusty marten]

but you still get the feeling you messed up something, like not applying mark to the boss

[winged sun]

[humble verge]

you know im autistic

literally me

(warning loud)

[haughty flicker]

you know sudden demise is mainly a raw buff to your bleed damage right

the execute is just a bonus

[runic hinge]

No it’s there to do all my damage

If it’s not topping my meter why is it a capstone

[golden loom]

I just watched this on 100% volume and you might have to be hunted down

[humble verge]

DANUBE

[tawdry merlin]

do we maintain CT on single target in bleed build?

[crisp venture]

yep

[thorn thorn]

Bro

Are you fr

[runic hinge]

He’s not using his brain cell today. Don’t bully him

[wanton remnant]

For loomithar if i get the tether and i hit cloak will it drop the webs right there where i hit cloak?

[haughty flicker]

no, it just stops you from taking damage for a bit

you still need to go break your tether

[wanton remnant]

Ok sweet so i can do that. Was afraid to use it on mythic loom prog last night lol thanks @haughty flicker

[clever sparrow]

how do you guys manage to intrupt?

i cant move back to my marked target when i change for intrupt

[earnest grotto]

mouse over macros. takes some getting used to but i made the switch when hero talents came out instead of hard switching

[wide quail]

what do you do guys if a tank keeps chain pulling in m+ and you cant go in stealth or vanish? 😐

[royal lantern]

!restealth

dammit, did they remove the command

[pseudo heron]

should be there

[final wolf]

Is there someone that can just tell me why im so shit at this spec? i feel like when im on dummys i can do dmg but i get into keys and i im garbage, https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gPmy3KYvQf4XcHTV?fight=6&type=damage-done&source=368 this is my log on a 13 and i cant do single target on bosses

[pseudo heron]

hmm

[wide quail]

👀

[analog field]

shift tab goes back to your previous target

[balmy condor]

!chainpull

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
• Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
• Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[sand sigil]

the dummies are always in execute

and when u vanish it resets ur meters with infinite bleeds running

[wide quail]

I like Bad Tanking thing 🤣

[final wolf]

that makes sense

[sand sigil]

so that inflates how much ur doing on the dummies by a ton

[final wolf]

but ive gotten like 98% logs on st in raid but when im in a key i had a hard time out dpsing a brewmaster tank today

altho i did lose my deathmark thingy because it was rashan and i couldnt re apply it from stealth

[pseudo heron]

ST on assa is not great anyway

[balmy condor]

Rash also never goes into execute

[final wolf]

but i feel like shit when i cant out dps a tank ^^

[pseudo heron]

or I am just really bad? XD

[final wolf]

im in the same boat then ^^

i look at logs and cast timers and everything but i just feel like im doing half the dmg

getting a 17 log isnt my favorite ^^

[balmy condor]

I mean the st sucks and it’s a boss that doesn’t get into execute

And you said yourself you lost the mark

[final wolf]

it also depends on how the tank pulls and everything

[balmy condor]

So that’s -25% dps

[final wolf]

yeah but i wasnt that great on the other bosses aswell

[balmy condor]

Did you get two deathmarks?

[final wolf]

can you get 2?

[balmy condor]

Every time I open a log and people complain about st it’s like they did a 3:30 minute boss

But only pressed deathmark once

[hushed maple]

Hello Party people. When do we play Hybrid and when Bleed ? I play Rogue as my Alt only since a few xpacs and well...I am kinda annoyed by the absurdity of apm in ST. Is Hybrid a bit more bareable?

[final wolf]

oh yeah i got 2 deathmarks

[balmy condor]

You play bleed always, and you play hybrid in season 1 back when it was actually playable

[thorn thorn]

Well yea duh, you save for execute for zoldyck value

[balmy condor]

Okay first question, I opened the duo boss

And you didn’t press CT once

[final wolf]

ct?

crimson tempest?

[balmy condor]

Then I open swamp face, still no ct

Yes

[final wolf]

do i ct on st?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[final wolf]

damn

okey thats good to know

i am pretty bad at useing crimson tempest

[balmy condor]

Also

[final wolf]

and it seems like i used twice the amount of envonoms than the top log on a 13 flood

[balmy condor]

Swampface you had 2 deathmarks

Nice

But you had THREE shivs

Brother

THREE

[final wolf]

well i use twice the amount but he did the same dmg

yeah that doesnt look very good

is shiv like a must use every time u get it

ive kinda saved them for deathmark and for vanish

or crimson tempest

do you only use envenom with max combat points aswell?

[balmy condor]

Shiv is your main cooldown

You use two during deathmark

[final wolf]

okay ookaaaayy

[balmy condor]

But deathmark is 2min

[humble verge]

uh whisp

[balmy condor]

So you should have 2 charges used between deathmarks

[humble verge]

so for FB raid

you use shiv for dm

and not for kb?

as in you dont do it at the last 8s of kb

but rather instant of eachothers

like you would before the increased duration

[light oxide]

Is there a good spot to read about ?? Ky’veza strategy?

[final wolf]

fb?

[balmy condor]

All finishers are 5cp unless it’s a darkest night, then it’s 7cp envenom as soon as possible to consume it

[final wolf]

kb

[humble verge]

facebook

[balmy condor]

Play a raid build and don’t stand in things. The fight is just a one-shot fiesta

[balmy condor]

What are you saying right now

[thorn thorn]

@stuck wedge This one

[final wolf]

okey i will try to get better now

[humble verge]

so

am i using 2nd shiv

in dm/kb window

on last 8s of dm

or kb

[balmy condor]

Yeah of course

Dm

[humble verge]

alright

then i have done it wrong this whole time

[balmy condor]

Last 8 of kingsbane just loses you shiv uptime during deathmark

[humble verge]

yeah

[winged sun]

Dude i think ur doing it right everytime ur just fried today

[humble verge]

alright then

[humble verge]

I HAVE DONE

[sharp lily]

Time to pin the MS paint thing you did the other night Whispyr

[humble verge]

5 HOA IN A ROW NOW

wait

[thorn thorn]

Why

[humble verge]

yes

idk

we need score

wait so we did

[thorn thorn]

Quit applying for them

[humble verge]

its my group

[winged sun]

HoA free with prot warr

[humble verge]

we are me, double sham war and dh

[winged sun]

I insta 1 shotted it

[humble verge]

hurb

true

but does he gives u restealth

PauseChamp

[thorn thorn]

No brez

[humble verge]

we had a dk

instead of dh

[balmy condor]

Maybe untalent sudden demise?

[humble verge]

in this one

[humble verge]

i will

good night

[final wolf]

thanks for the help! @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

Np

[golden storm]

Playing double vanish/bleed for M+ and So’leah is signing higher than my Lily. Is this just because it’s a 90 second trinket and I’m a 2 minute build?

Simming*

[balmy condor]

Link the sim

[golden storm]

Not at my computer sadly 😢 will be back in like an hour.

[thorn thorn]

ngl

im taking the gorilla couch

[royal lantern]

good to know

i feel more stupid then ussual rn

[golden storm]

Is armory working on raidbots again @balmy condor ?

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/proudmoore/aravon/

[balmy condor]

it does

but armory import on raidbots

[humble verge]

just use simc

addon

[golden storm]

I have it, just not at home.

[humble verge]

[balmy condor]

armory import is so cancer

[white holly]

Whispyr

please dont flame me but I was doing a +10 and I actually saw Singular Focus on my details

is there a dream or?

[balmy condor]

what

yeah?

there it is

what am I doing with this

[sharp viper]

WOOP THERE IT IS

[limber swallow]

print it out and stick it on the fridge.

[dapper halo]

antenna is abit random, the crit orbs sometimes spawn many at a time

[white holly]

nevermind I think I need to go to bed

[dapper halo]

but sometimes it takes a break

[balmy condor]

most trinkets are random, yes

[white holly]

hit my head pretty hard

[haughty flicker]

[nova oxide]

How do you all handle bleeds in a big pull? I’m focusing getting 10 out then focusing on envenoms with a few extra bleeds mixed in, is there err in my way?

[balmy condor]

5 ruptures, garrotes on everything

[solemn ridge]

Anybody here with an equal ilvl who did a sim recently? at just 3,15m DPS i feel im doing something entirelly wrong

[balmy condor]

I mean your trinkets are insanely shit

but yeah that seems reasonable for a bleed build

[solemn ridge]

i never even got a B-tier trinket yet. bad rolls

[nova oxide]

Thanks Whispyr. I guess first pull in gambit will always “feel” bad, but I suppose pad damage in the trash Murdock doesn’t mean much.

[astral current]

lemme ask some stoopid stuff

[balmy condor]

huh? first pull gambit feels great, you omega blast the giant

[astral current]

are my stats fine

[haughty flicker]

First pull gambit feels great

[balmy condor]

didn't look but yes

[haughty flicker]

Cleave off giant, giga adds

You pump that pull

[nova oxide]

Ok, “looks” bad 😂

[balmy condor]

what looks bad about it

you do insane damage, huge prio

it's literally a dream

[solemn ridge]

these boots...jeezus

[nova oxide]

I understand now.

[thorn thorn]

If the question is "will i beat fdk on this pull" the answer is probably not until you get to a level you can dot everything

But on the plus side you will do more damage to giant than everybody else

[balmy condor]

not that you would even want to dot everything

[nova oxide]

Exactly this. My monkey ZugZug brain is now at ease.

[balmy condor]

the duality of assa rogues is that when a tank chain pulls they get irrationally angry that they have to rupture mobs and can't aoe, but then the first pull of a dungeon has 85 mobs and they're just casting ruptures forever

[safe swift]

what will our 3rd craft be? second dagger? or we wait for mythic dagger out of raid / vault?

[balmy condor]

probably anything else

[thorn thorn]

Well yea that second part was mostly hyperbole

Just press crimson tempest

[balmy condor]

legit ANYTHING else

[thorn thorn]

And let the fdk do 80m dps or whatever they do on that pull idk

[nova oxide]

Yes, I need to program my brain away from this way of thinking.

[thorn thorn]

fair and balanced spec

[agile osprey]

OH weapon dam be insignificant yo

[pseudo heron]

mfw when fdk beats rips in aoe and st XD

[turbid sandal]

We only want 5 ruptures up and running really, correct? After that it's all Caustic Spatter

[balmy condor]

yes

you don't need more energy

you're capped on scent of blood

you don't have any bone spike charges left

if it's like a giga pull maybe toss out a bonus rupture or two while the pull it getting gathered just to make sure the smallies don't explode and you lose scent stacks

but your AoE is crimson tempest and caustic spatter

3 measly ruptures when you're hitting liket 25 mobs

won't do shit

[hollow smelt]

Came here just now to ask this exact question. Thanks homies

[nova oxide]

One more question. Floodgate Big Mommy. My monkey brain tells me to pump mommy while the adds are up, my party wants me to focus down each drone.

[runic hinge]

I wanna get ruptured three times if you know what I mean

[runic hinge]

Keep ruptures and Ct up and just hit boss

[balmy condor]

well you do the most drone damage by dotting them with rupture for scent, CT, and then pumping boss

[nova oxide]

RIGHT!!!?!

[severe meadow]

Focusing the drones would be crazy work

[nova oxide]

Thanks everyone. I’m not listening to my tank anymore 😂

[thorn thorn]

Your party has no idea what funnel is

[runic hinge]

They also have no idea how to play a rogue

[thorn thorn]

You would only hard focus drones when she gets her shield

Which only happens if the drones live for too long

Which also shouldnt happen

[unreal kayak]

@balmy condor when new pin ?

[red schooner]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[thorn thorn]

What do you mean by this

[winged sun]

I think people ask this alot because of how we do our setup in m+ btw

We bleed everything up super fast that it wont affect our dps envenoming late

Like i think twitch just has some influence on those questions sometimes

People need to pre bleed before u actually send ur dps pump in the pull

[balmy condor]

ye

[winged sun]

Generally like if anyone’s reading this, if ur not spreading bleeds perfectly or rather just like mouseovering shit u dont have to bleed everything

U have to do it super fast while the tank is grouping shit up

[indigo mulch]

BUT MY BLEEDS!

[winged sun]

Dungeons design this season don’t help much with that atm

But

Its kinda alright

[royal lantern]

@humble verge thanks for asking the shiv question btw

[thorn thorn]

Takin one for the team fr

[humble verge]

wait wrong

[thorn thorn]

The lads have done this before

[thorn thorn]

Im ready for todays pin to be "tuning done but lmao everything still broken"

[thorn thorn]

They were playing league

[royal lantern]

not me using the 2nd shiv for the last 8seconds of KB because it just seemed logical

[thorn thorn]

And one of them was trying to mimic tank veigar jungle from a video and ended up giga griefing so they all jokingly reported him but turns out the other team reported him too so he got banned

[humble verge]

how long

[thorn thorn]

How long what

how long was the game?

[humble verge]

the ban

[warm vortex]

his thing

[humble verge]

his mum

[thorn thorn]

Oh

[warm vortex]

[thorn thorn]

I think it was 1 or 2 months

[humble verge]

lol

wait

is urf up

⏸️

im tired of pushing keys

might go play rocket league even

[balmy condor]

Doom bots

[humble verge]

wait, actually?

I LOVE HAVING ALMOST 2M HP DIFFERENCE

[royal lantern]

isnt that just #assassination everytime patchnotes get released?

[humble verge]

well its more 1,5m ig

[fleet pagoda]

yeah I have 3mil hp less than warriors with less ilvl than me 😢

[pallid geyser]

Hi, good evening. I would like to ask what configuration you use to simulate AOE damage

[royal lantern]

you mean for m+?

[balmy path]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[pallid geyser]

Yep, I don't know whether to use 5 patchwerks or the dungeon slice.

[zenith coral]

ds

[royal lantern]

dungeonslice

[pallid geyser]

Ok, tyvm

[pulsar gulch]

if your deathstalker mark drops in raid and you dont have vanish - what do ?

[runic hinge]

Jump off the platform and say you lagged

[main bridge]

reroll devourer DH

[oblique flare]

You do less damage

Hope the raid wipes

[lucid kite]

when were you swapping out the jastor diamond ring for something else?

[haughty flicker]

as soon as i get something that simmed even remotely close

[lucid kite]

simmed 30-40 higher ilvl rings but sims still saying jastor is better, which i find interesting

[haughty flicker]

if jastors worked properly it would be op yeah

but its bugged and sometimes just chooses not to proc at all for funsies

[lucid kite]

awesome haha

so basically swap it for a 700ilvl ring ish?

[haughty flicker]

i swapped it for a random hero track ring yeah

[runic hinge]

Yeah that’s what I read

[oblique flare]

Sim the rings, in my case I got to replace it after I got a shittier Sentinel ring from Delves with high crit low mastery

[haughty flicker]

the pin do be pretty accurate

[sacred ibex]

!gear

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1405681489470951594/sin_.webp

[lucid silo]

remember when we werent bugged

[haughty flicker]

no

because we've always been bugged

[balmy condor]

We weren’t bugged?

[lucid silo]

neither do i

[lucid kite]

just simmed again and 190k more dps with jastor than a 684 ring with BiS stats for sub

[haughty flicker]

turns out wow is a buggy as fuck game

forever and always

[lucid kite]

find it kinda crazy

[haughty flicker]

[lucid kite]

especially now, since every class has like 100 abilities and 100 talents etc

[royal lantern]

we have way way less abilitys then we had 13 years ago mate lol

[oblique flare]

honestly, no idea. Trust the sims

[royal lantern]

assa core rotation is literally 5 buttons