What would you sim for then when you only do m+ ?
#assassination
calm wedge
grim jay
Its actually a pretty good sin key imo
grim jay
What would you sim for then when you only do m+ ?
Dungeonslice for gearing
Always, thats what our TCs are optimizing for that
bro
little magnet
Much better now!
winged sun
ur sim sounds omega microwaved
calm wedge
i mean, floodgate has everything, big pulls, average pulls, single target boss, boss cleave, 2 target boss
fallen charm
I think my stats are kinda cooked in m+, I have close to 45%+ crit because of raid sims, I change my fiber to mastery everytime I'm doing m+ but still
calm wedge
will rerun the sims we will see
grim jay
i mean, floodgate has everything, big pulls, average pulls, single target boss, ...
Doesnt matter if the concept is hyper specialized and the TCs dont really optimize for it
Because its just worse for gearing than dslice
limpid thunder
managed to finally get my spatter up hgher in a key instead of it being 6th 
still plenty to work on but it's a start
fallen charm
yall feeling sudden demise kinda dropped compared to last season
limpid thunder
isn't it bugged or something
fallen charm
must be the gear of something but I feel like in 10s it is doing a lot less than before
fallen charm
isn't it bugged or something
on delves and open maps
limpid thunder
yea i dk ive not played rogue enough to notice
this character is like 2days old atm 😂
kind igloo
Garrote and rupture spreads for two more adds apart from your target, so ye u can keep ur main target.
sudden demise #16 1.5% overall xD
velvet cairn
in fb st which coin is like the cool one to get
dmg buff or coin damage one
in opener and cds generelly
night vessel
they be adding fucking winter hats instead of fixing sin rogue
lyric gate
might get reported now playing outlaw like dawyn said
soft robin
Did I see someone say sudden demise is bugged?
normal mist
in world content
soft robin
Ah ok
normal mist
lyric gate
unplayable
teal sundial
I hope they change how Deathstalker works at Midnight, it's so frustrating right now 😢
Araz fuck u
velvet cairn
#removeherotalents
quasi grove
Garrote and rupture spreads for two more adds apart from your target, so ye u ca...
So let’s say you have 5 mobs, you target one of them with garrote and rapture and in the end 3 mobs end up having garrote and rapture on them?
little magnet
soft robin
I think you’re supposed to cast both rupture and garrote 2 times in that opening window
In that situation
kind igloo
So let’s say you have 5 mobs, you target one of them with garrote and rapture an...
it prioritze adds without the bleed, so no, u end with 5 dotted
little magnet
its nice when you have 5 targets so you can just keep spamming it on your main
with 6 targets you can briefly change your target so you save some globals when spreading
velvet cairn
So let’s say you have 5 mobs, you target one of them with garrote and rapture an...
yes after u get out of stealth u get carnage which gives 2 additional dots (main + 2 targets)
quasi grove
it prioritze adds without the bleed, so no, u end with 5 dotted
So in most scenarios you won’t switch targets
velvet cairn
and u want 5 for scent of blood a big agi buff
little magnet
1(main)+2auto spread+2auto spread
velvet cairn
So in most scenarios you won’t switch targets
in 6 or more u want to switch or u lose one rupture/garrote so most scenarios you switch
trail owl
is the`re a standalone wa ( preffereble) that will show rupture/garrote stacks ( how much targets are under these dots ) ?
like this one https://wago.io/gt1l0lV3f
little magnet
quasi grove
in 6 or more u want to switch or u lose one rupture/garrote so most scenarios yo...
Yeah, so when you clear mobs in dung when you do pull is garrote, rapture, change target, garrote rapture and then rest. In like most scenarios
velvet cairn
Yeah, so when you clear mobs in dung when you do pull is garrote, rapture, chang...
since u got the shadowlands thing when u use rupture u can do garrote rupture, change target rupture garrote
it refunds combo points
little magnet
Anyone has some nice focus target kick macro? Preferably so i shadowstep to focus target for kick?
little magnet
Thanks!
grim jay
Yeah, so when you clear mobs in dung when you do pull is garrote, rapture, chang...
Thats kinda wrong ngl
velvet cairn
Thats kinda wrong ngl
i corrected he was asking from what he thought
grim jay
Ye but thats also wrong
You garrote 2 times before you rupture
And you dont need to swap targets at all
quasi grove
So how it suppose to be? With garrote, rapture and switching targets
grim jay
So how it suppose to be? With garrote, rapture and switching targets
!carnage
prisma monolithBOT
Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required
- The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
- You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets
Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.
It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.
velvet cairn
You garrote 2 times before you rupture
i mean same thing no diff in gcds
grim jay
And you basically replace fok with garrote for the carnage window until everything is garroted
quasi grove
Okay, so I can keep spamming garrote, rapture on one target and it will spread anyways. Most times not worth switch targets because they will be dead
velvet cairn
Okay, so I can keep spamming garrote, rapture on one target and it will spread a...
depends a lot compared to content
like open world sure do w/e
grim jay
Okay, so I can keep spamming garrote, rapture on one target and it will spread a...
Not really worth switching as you can mess up and you mostly miss out on a single rupture, but ye
Regardless of content
quasi grove
Yeah that’s what I felt when started switching and eventually got lost what am I doing😅
grim jay
Yeah that’s what I felt when started switching and eventually got lost what am I...
Yes can happen quite easily. You wont miss out on anything noticeable if you dont switch
Tho a good plater setup is still recommended
velvet cairn
Yeah that’s what I felt when started switching and eventually got lost what am I...
sounds like ur new to assa, i recomend doing everything a bit easier than giga minmax. like get 5 ruptures and garrote like 2-3 times
and focus on st part
and then scale up what u do
grim jay
There is no upscaling from not swapping
velvet cairn
i mean he should get some muscle memory and get more comfortable before doing everything right
grim jay
You just do it like per the command and garrote for as long as carnage is up until everything is dotted
quasi grove
sounds like ur new to assa, i recomend doing everything a bit easier than giga m...
5 days on rogue
grim jay
Its not really a hard concept
In which you should do it wrongly first
For whatever reason
velvet cairn
i mean whats easy for you might be hard for someone else
quasi grove
Tho a good plater setup is still recommended
Using one from Whispyr
grim jay
Using one from Whispyr
Thats the best one imo ye
quasi grove
I was about to switch to outlaw because I thought it’s too hard to play for me 😂😂
velvet cairn
just practice and it will become easier!
grim jay
Nah you just overcomplicated the spreading, many do
steep carbon
Hei guys, I have a question. With fatebound ST raid build, since I don't have improved garrote in the talentbuild, what is the use of vanish midfight ?
sacred schooner
Hei guys, I have a question. With fatebound ST raid build, since I don't have im...
brave stump
!dj
prisma monolithBOT
Vanishing On Fatebound
- you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
- this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
- because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
- edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
- you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst
steep carbon
^ cool 😄
shell spade
is deathstalker still bugged?
brave stump
shell spade
ty
brave stump
Im happy whispyr is setting up so many commands that way i wont share as much misinformation
red schooner
Im happy whispyr is setting up so many commands that way i wont share as much mi...
Mean while there's me telling people that !DJ gives you a playlist for optimum rogue performance.
New avenues for misinformation are made
real pike
Like others have said, one GCD doesn't really matter when you have 12 seconds of IC now, was different when we had 6 I think
steep carbon
"edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips."
So about this - Deathmark I get, as it says on "Edge Case" description. But where does it say that Kingsbane causes Edge Case flip?
somber sparrow
"edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two...
Isn’t it the tier that makes kingsbane do it
spice surge
Yes the tier
old terrace
is fatebound competitive in m+? its so convienient not having to track my death stalker target
brave stump
No
velvet cairn
super badge
old terrace
damn 😭
velvet cairn
this makes it piss if i remember right
old terrace
what is it specifically that makes deathstalker so much better in m+?
velvet cairn
this too kinda
golden loom
what is it specifically that makes deathstalker so much better in m+?
Deathstalker has a bunch of aoe talents
Fatebound has none and nerfs it self in aoe
waxen oyster
Basically every deathstalker talent buffs aoe
well except fatal intent
that shit is useless
steep carbon
Thank you guys!
golden loom
Fate intertwined, delivered doom and deal fate are all bad in aoe
azure owl
Can I bind a specific item set to my hero talents? I cba remembering to change trinkets every time I switch fatebound/deathstalker
steep carbon
I love the rogue disc, always get a pro answer
old terrace
that shit is useless
aren't several of the aoe talents bugged?
old terrace
I love the rogue disc, always get a pro answer
fr 😭
old terrace
was momentum of despair fixed then?
marsh fjord
nope
golden loom
Well you just run follow the blood instead
obsidian marlin
parry?
golden loom
yeah but for raid
Well there you just play sub instead
marsh fjord
Well there you just play sub instead <:garf:1320173032743899157>
no
assa all the way
velvet cairn
assa all the way when its not buggy
old terrace
isn't sub worse for raid than sin?
maiden sierra
Well there you just play sub instead <:garf:1320173032743899157>
Sub is a game changer on araz mythic fr
velvet cairn
isn't sub worse for raid than sin?
depends a lot on boss
agile osprey
Here's a real hot take
static glacier
Well we finally have the lily
velvet cairn
Sub is a game changer on araz mythic fr
real
agile osprey
I miss the sepsis build in dragonflight
static glacier
Don’t have to tilt that we don’t get frac to 35% before 3mins
old terrace
did I score?
agile osprey
Heroic netherprism beats mythic lilly for me
old terrace
damnit 😭
agile osprey
Might be decent when heroic reclear kills get quicker but idk?
old terrace
Bro tried to flex
why does everyone think I'm trying to flex? I'm here to learn, I'm legit clueless
I just asked because someone brought up lily, so I thought it might have been good
old terrace
cool, just not the best it could be?
maiden sierra
Not best in slot
magic fossil
it dependes, for fatebound u score big
red schooner
There are better trinkets but its solid
maiden sierra
But close
magic fossil
but is very good
velvet cairn
why does everyone think I'm trying to flex? I'm here to learn, I'm legit clueles...
they are meming dw
its solid
maiden sierra
they are meming dw
Dont tell him that!
velvet cairn
Dont tell him that!
shit i mean
magic fossil
dont take anything here to serious, only whyspir pins are sacred here
maiden sierra
Its a rite of passage to ragebait newbies
velvet cairn
go get a trinket from s1!
old terrace
done and done
old terrace
lmfao
maiden sierra
Yes
velvet cairn
badge
velvet cairn
do a droptimizer and u can focus on whats good
old terrace
I have done droptimizer but I don't understand what I'm looking at tbh. I prolly need to find a video explaining it lol
proper tangle
Is there a moroes command to see recommended specs/talents for assa on all bosses in the raid?
velvet cairn
I have done droptimizer but I don't understand what I'm looking at tbh. I prolly...
it says which dungeons drops things u want
and % upgrade on x slot
maiden sierra
Is there a moroes command to see recommended specs/talents for assa on all bosse...
Just check warcraft logs
velvet cairn
priority is a thing that says x dungeon is better to focus on over z dungeon
red schooner
Is there a moroes command to see recommended specs/talents for assa on all bosse...
!guide
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
pliant remnant
Is there a moroes command to see recommended specs/talents for assa on all bosse...
old terrace
maybe I did it wrong then, when I did it, it requested a sim run per dungeon instead of all of them, which is what confused me
pliant remnant
But you can of course check Warcraft Logs too yeh
red schooner
Is there a moroes command to see recommended specs/talents for assa on all bosse...
Doesn't take you directly there but there's a manaforge link on the guide so its CLOSE ENOUGH
velvet cairn
I have done droptimizer but I don't understand what I'm looking at tbh. I prolly...
here u can see that 1/2 of the bosses is useless and loomithar is super giga big
also says replace trinket 1 in the scenario (hidden variation is a downgrade thats useless compared to that one)
old terrace
do you have premium to see all bosses at once?>
velvet cairn
i do but i think it shows normally too
proper tangle
Thank you rogue legends. Only thing left is to get gud
chilly mist
think you need premium to sim all dungeons though
red schooner
do you have premium to see all bosses at once?>
For raid, nah, for m+, yeah
old terrace
oh, yeah I was doing one dungeon at a time and it was less than efficient
velvet cairn
i mean tier list can work as a sim for u then ig
like pacemaker A tier meanwhile obelisk is like D-
red schooner
oh, yeah I was doing one dungeon at a time and it was less than efficient
Duplicate your tab 8 times, run 8 at once
Problem solved
velvet cairn
then u know pacemaker is better smile
old terrace
that one delve trinket is ok too
DAMN
flat pier
Would be super to go back to start of season with our shit double dipping 😠 why cant blizz just fix the bugs
old terrace
I just sold it for the pillar LOL
would anybody mind looking at my logs if they have time?
velvet cairn
quick look sure in depth no thanks
old terrace
any help would be great, I'll paste it in a moment
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WtqvJDfprRQkGLKg?fight=36&type=damage-done&source=2 I think this is the right link? Never done this before
the other bosses I'm blue and purple, but on dimensius my score is pretty low
golden loom
Well playing deathstalker on dimensius for one sounds like torture
old terrace
I'll swap to fatebound for next weeks then
velvet cairn
u prob want to get 4p too
its a pretty nice thing to have
this is pretty badge too
enchant ur stuff
old terrace
is there a guide for enchanting in tww? I haven't done that since like wrath or cata lol
velvet cairn
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/amBCNzTj2HtFDc71?fight=47&type=damage-done here is my log u can look at, also played ds
main bridge
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WtqvJDfprRQkGLKg?fight=36&type=damage-done&...
- didn't vanish after KB for Double Jeopardy at all
- this was the only obvious mistake i saw
velvet cairn
is there a guide for enchanting in tww? I haven't done that since like wrath or ...
ehh can send list ig
-head enchant
old terrace
ehh can send list ig
I appreciate it
main bridge
is there a guide for enchanting in tww? I haven't done that since like wrath or ...
you can sim enchants
devout jasper
how can I sim the races?
velvet cairn
you can compare my log and urs, my is kinda scuffed but its okay
old 4p so might be just some higher envenoms and stuff then urs tho
maiden lake
assas been hotfixed yet ? have we been fixed ?>
golden loom
- didn't vanish after KB for Double Jeopardy at all
- this was the only obvious ...
He is playing ds not fatebound
golden loom
So theres no double jeopardy
main bridge
i just assumed FB because what kind of loon would play DS on a ST fight
old terrace
i just assumed FB because what kind of loon would play DS on a ST fight
I'm learning...
maiden lake
assas better for mplus still or are we moving to sub ?
velvet cairn
I'm learning...
its okay, compare my log to yours and you will find stuff
old terrace
I've farmed mounts for 20 years, this is my first real raid tier lol
old terrace
its okay, compare my log to yours and you will find stuff
I'm looking at them. Your burst was sooooo high at 5 mins
it was as high as your opener
main bridge
I'm learning...
your damage will be much better if you play Fatebound with Caustic Spatter on that fight
old terrace
I'll be fatebound on next weeks pull
velvet cairn
I'm looking at them. Your burst was sooooo high at 5 mins
damage amp i think
but assa pretty shit at that
main bridge
this is heroic but here you can see the best logs on Dimensius and what they were playing https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/rogue-assassination/dimensius-the-alldevouring?difficulty=heroic
chilly mist
How come people are vanishing so differently with fatebound? Also if the following is true why wouldn't you just be able to macro vanish into deathmark? "edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips."
main bridge
very useful
old terrace
it was during bl so that tracks
main bridge
How come people are vanishing so differently with fatebound? Also if the followi...
because it doesn't actually matter when you vanish as long as it's after KB and before your next finisher
velvet cairn
this is heroic but here you can see the best logs on Dimensius and what they wer...
he played normal
kinda unfair comparison with timers
main bridge
i know, it's fine. you can still play FB in normal
there is no normal setting on that site
chilly mist
because it doesn't actually matter when you vanish as long as it's after KB and ...
yeah but thats kind of my point too, what prevents us from then macroing it into deathmark like alot of other stuff is recommended to?
old terrace
but other than gear and enchants and such, my logs overall look okay? No glaring mistakes?
waxen oyster
only thing you macro to dm is racials
velvet cairn
but other than gear and enchants and such, my logs overall look okay? No glaring...
havent looked at cast but u can compare my and urs
waxen oyster
and maybe pot
chilly mist
im kind of looking for the "why" that is
main bridge
yeah but thats kind of my point too, what prevents us from then macroing it into...
i think 4pc changes it but i'm not totally sure. i remember Whispyr saying something about why not to do this but i can't remember what
old terrace
ohhh I see, I think I lost deathstalkers mark halway through the fight and didn't notice
that prlly didn't help lol
chilly mist
i think 4pc changes it but i'm not totally sure. i remember Whispyr saying somet...
appreciate it, will try to breeze through his guides too find it 😭
dense cedar
i vanish before dm 
golden loom
ohhh I see, I think I lost deathstalkers mark halway through the fight and didn'...
That is one of the reasons it is so horrible on the fight
Forced downtime + ds not very poggers
dense cedar
game does not agree with the idea of gemming for sub
old terrace
I got my 4 piece! 
dense cedar
niceo
maiden lake
whats better for mplus ? assas or sub ?
cyan dew
Boys, sometimes when i'm in a pack and I start to distribute garrote/rup I notice my main target won't get ruptured/garroted, I need to change target and hit him instead. It's a bug or I'm doing something rly wrong?
cunning needle
idk if 5.5m end is good xd +10
timed the key and didn't come last
thats good enough
minor coyote
ayeee
still learning , it's so cool seing improvement
im still in my 3rd week ever
of playing wow
minor coyote
got 5p
cunning needle
sick
dense cedar
put a shirt on smh
minor coyote
why 
main bridge
whats better for mplus ? assas or sub ?
they're both good, but have different damage profiles. overall i guess i'd say assa, but sub can be nice when there is less trash and more confined fights, like Streets and Dawnbreaker
dense cedar
walking around basically naked
minor coyote
i have armor
dense cedar
i see empty slots
minor coyote
good
dense cedar
that's no good
sharp viper
minor coyote
👀
dense cedar
we don't expect u to have ribbon
but go slap on a member shirt or something
u can tmog in away for free if u have to
but u gotta dress up smh
fluid zealot
If I raid but still like to push to high keys what weapon enchants should I just stick with so I don’t have to waste money trying to switch back and forth
unborn rain
sim it
gritty laurel
weapon enchants are so close together that it almost certainly doesn't matter. you can sim it for exact answer, but the crit and mastery procs are fine
fluid zealot
Ah ok thank you!
eager condor
for m loomithar - as fatebound it seems my Kb etc comes up in line wiht every set of orbs
do you guys suggest ignoring them when cds are cranking - or delay
mostly KB uptime
royal lantern
melee is not really touching the orbs tbh?
hollow vessel
I'm comparing logs and I noticed that the other assa rogue got their Deathmark and Kingsbane cooldown reduced twice from their opener. Am I supposed to get something like that everytime or is it just luck?
static glacier
I'm comparing logs and I noticed that the other assa rogue got their Deathmark a...
bug luck
royal lantern
I'm comparing logs and I noticed that the other assa rogue got their Deathmark a...
bugs
dense cedar
"luck"
royal lantern
welcome to this patch
dense cedar
but then u don't press it anyways
hollow vessel
LOL
eager condor
melee is not really touching the orbs tbh?
were swapping to be more ranged heavy...but calls for ALL to be on it
hollow vessel
So we should get some parses removed then?
eager condor
for tonight
royal lantern
were swapping to be more ranged heavy...but calls for ALL to be on it
i mean, assa rogue is not really gonna do any meaningfull dmg on it, you can do like, 1 envenom and thats it lol
eager condor
lol yeah
static glacier
So we should get some parses removed then?
if they cba to detect it, we're not that insane though for them to see us as clear outliers
hollow vessel
I was quite worried lol so I didn't make any major mistake then
static glacier
I was quite worried lol so I didn't make any major mistake then
ur fine, no one's expecting you to abuse bugs
if ur not outlaw anyway 
vivid tundra
For hardmode i guess i just go prio, similar to dimensius/king build?
vivid tundra
i mean id want boss to die fast, bleed would be trolling
main bridge
You can change spec for bosses if you want. There is no timer
spice surge
Sub is very balanced in hardmode when you can start a pull with 18 stacks of prism, 7 superchargers, disorienting strikes, 14 stacks of sht and a coup ready
static glacier
Sub is very balanced in hardmode when you can start a pull with 18 stacks of pri...
wait supercharger can stack to 7?
spice surge
Yes, it just resets down to 2 when you start a key or pull a raid boss
static glacier
good lord, sub must do like 8m dps on bosses if not more
pulsar plank
is this good 5 minutes 5 target dummy I feel like CT is way low
spice surge
good lord, sub must do like 8m dps on bosses if not more
I did 10.4M on a 42 seconds post master kill
white dew
Could anyone take a look at my logs to see where I can improve?
hearty seal
https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxvJI5DVdc0C6jqKQK-n8t7J_Ylmwe0HkG
ok
time to learn sub just for that
nova aspen
just only do 1 set of adds on hooktail kek
hearty seal
ngl I feel like hooktail is by far the worst part of Taza deathless
nova aspen
yea 4 raid buffs is big
hearty seal
we went in for a trial run last week
lost deathless to first pack because mage figure the tank can grab them instantly
but otherwise it was smooth sailing, took maybe three tries to learn post...and then hooktail fucked us up
nova aspen
ngl I feel like hooktail is by far the worst part of Taza deathless
it is, that and mail boss bomb sets are like the only sketchy moments
hearty seal
ye
nova aspen
we did it on tuesday and killed hooktail before reaching the shoreline, maybe 20 sec later than zac's kill
i forgot to supercharge stack tho
and only had 2 raid buffs
midnight mist
https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxvJI5DVdc0C6jqKQK-n8t7J_Ylmwe0HkG
wtf thats me
pulsar plank
is tazavesh hm equal to a +10?
nova aspen
thats u 
midnight mist
spice surge
nova aspen
is tazavesh hm equal to a +10?
like a +11 i'd guess
timber wren
Do people talent into kingsbane for mythic+ bleed builds? Or is that strictly for single target
main bridge
ST only
vocal seal
https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxvJI5DVdc0C6jqKQK-n8t7J_Ylmwe0HkG
what the fucky
spice surge
You would not talent into kingsbane with the bleed build no
timber wren
That’s what I thought, but saw some bad dialogue between shitters
hearty seal
is tazavesh hm equal to a +10?
+10 without affix I think
hearty seal
so it's actually less damaging overall
warm vortex
!up
prisma monolithBOT
spice surge
what the fucky
Me when the burst spec does big burst
nova aspen
what the fucky indeed
spice surge
I gotta loot a better prism than normal
A mythic one is like +12k agi
Although for sub the loot from tazsa is pretty awful besides tier for catalyst
prisma monolithBOT
Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:
- Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up: - Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up: - Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization
The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements
pulsar plank
!ct
stable apex
didnt we use to have a spreadsheet/list with all current rogue budges?
anyone knows if that still exists?
stone yacht
didnt we use to have a spreadsheet/list with all current rogue budges?
idk but you can review them in the pinned post
stable apex
idk but you can review them in the pinned post
that only covers sin
i knew we used to have one for all of rogue
celest ruin
i hate this shindig guy
stable apex
quite some time ago though
celest ruin
wicked valve
Is there a website to see how many keys I've done in the week? I thought it was wowprogress but I couldnt see it.
Trying to see how bad my luck is with loot'
crude helm
Maybe I’m being too harsh on myself, but is there anything I’m doing wrong? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KhNp6MYwrFDGXQVJ?fight=6&type=damage-done&source=12
dense cedar
Maybe I’m being too harsh on myself, but is there anything I’m doing wrong? http...
were you ever pressing kb/dm while the tangles were nearby/active?
counting the ones u can't hit
dense cedar
that could've sapped a nice amount of damaged from u
no
its that delivered doom counts them
as enemies
even if u can't actually hit them
dense cedar
its kinda a tossup betwwen
holding cds till they leave
or pushing them to not lose a use
crude helm
Can you see delivered doom numbers? Like damage lost etc
crude helm
But yeah that’s makes sense if I’m losing a good amount of damage to nearby enemies
I’ll be more mindful of that next week and see if it helps
novel star
I never lose up time
if ct isn’t your top damage or tied for it in a key then i seriously doubt that
dense cedar
Guys my CT hitting way low. Am I missing something?
do u got, log
novel star
log would help yea
humble verge
wtf is this route
ashen zenith
Guys my CT hitting way low. Am I missing something?
Are you shiving?
dense cedar
dont they have all seeing eye?
no
spice surge
They dont
humble verge
oh
dense cedar
its actually so pog
dense cedar
that they don't
spice surge
Theyre kinda free though, they dont do anything besides being insanely annoying
dense cedar
annoying sucks thoi
cyan dew
boys, sometimes when I'm in a pack and start spreading Garrote and Rupture, I notice my main target doesn't get affected. I have to change target to rup/garrote again. Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
ashen zenith
boys, sometimes when I'm in a pack and start spreading Garrote and Rupture, I no...
You using mouseover macros and forgetting to hold RMB?
cyan dew
Oh, could it be?
ashen zenith
Do it all the time myself after rushing to kick something. 
cyan dew
Yeah, I think you're into something
If I keep rmouse button pressed It doesn't matter where my mouse is, right?
ashen zenith
Yup.
proper nest
Does anyone have a good plater that changes the color of the target based on if it has deathmark or deathstalker marks?
main bridge
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
proper nest
thx
mental thistle
there is a way to sim the new BOE rings ?
main bridge
Whispyr plater does it
main bridge
there is a way to sim the new BOE rings ?
Type in search box in top gear
hard river
you have to add the empty ring through top gear and then click the + to generate a new one with different stats
cyan dew
!logs
prisma monolithBOT
Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage
Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/
cyan dew
Where can I post logs?
white dew
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Dxt9LKrQnzZXfcay?fight=31&type=damage-done&source=1204 Looking to see if anyone could offer some log review to see how I can improve
dense cedar
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Dxt9LKrQnzZXfcay?fight=31&type=damage-done&...
suggest not doing this
you also hold til llike 20 seconds in for no reason
your first kb after opener u go KB > envenom > cb
cyan dew
Can anyone tell me why he does so much more damage than me with less casts and why ambush cast is so different?
dense cedar
deleting you edge case coins also
cyan dew
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/cVZFTwMpyNa4d3vh/6TMzXy34CxfdjLG2?f...
He has both weapons mythic (mine are 704 both), does it make a difference even if I have the same Ilvl?
dense cedar
@white dew practice the opener more and macro KB and CB together
white dew
<@915670684137578546> practice the opener more and macro KB and CB together
Got it thank you!
dense cedar
@cyan dew u legit don't have even a crafted dagger yet
ashen zenith
Weapons are usually priority in terms of crests/vault. Maybe when there's a rare/giga trinket it's not. So yeah. Makes a difference.
dapper halo
meowth, no new pins, our dps is still brokeen :<
dense cedar
u kinda griefing by using a heroic dagger mh still
ashen zenith
At least for immediate gains.
dense cedar
a crafted one is fairly cheap and would be 16 ilvls gain in the mh
cyan dew
u kinda griefing by using a heroic dagger mh still
It's why my hit's are so different?
jolly stirrup
!up
prisma monolithBOT
dense cedar
It's why my hit's are so different?
yes
cyan dew
Damn..
dense cedar
you don't need 2 good daggers
cyan dew
Ye I just changed to sin
dense cedar
just get a crafted 1
cyan dew
was outlaw and did outlaw crafts
cyan dew
Damn, didn't knew weapon made that big of a diff
weak plover
play Outlaw then O.O
dense cedar
im gonna assume it simmed higher for u
but u should check if other gems for diamond would be an upgreade for u
"upgrade"
cyan dew
play Outlaw then O.O
I tilted playing it on Dimensius. lol
dense cedar
like 10dps but w/e
makes the crit numbers bigger
there's a 636 WDPS difference between a 720 and a 704
pulsar plank
Are you shiving?
Well yeah I mean this is 12 POTSF my ct is waaaay low
dense cedar
pretty huge
dense cedar
Well yeah I mean this is 12 POTSF my ct is waaaay low
details kinda unhelpful would need a log
pulsar plank
I litterally never missed uptime
cyan dew
there's a 636 WDPS difference between a 720 and a 704
Just simmed with a crafted one. I've got 3%
dense cedar
Just simmed with a crafted one. I've got 3%
that pretty big
pulsar plank
didnt log
dense cedar
they also do have a better passive trinket than you and boots
but the mh is the big thing here
bleak wasp
Anyone have a good m+ build that uses KB? The one on archon doesn't have KB and I see everyone here talking about how important it is - might be why my dps has been so low in 10-12s recently.
dense cedar
Anyone have a good m+ build that uses KB? The one on archon doesn't have KB and...
you don't run kb in M+
gritty laurel
i don't think anyone has been talking about how important kb is
bleak wasp
ah well that explains that.
gritty laurel
we envenoming baybee
spice surge
Fatebound buffs KB by a lot
dense cedar
you may be reading messages about raid
cyan dew
but the mh is the big thing here
But the numbers on the log are more than 30% apart...Does the sim doesn't include all the damage diff?
spice surge
But you dont run fatebound in keys
bleak wasp
Yeah, I see the dimensius chatter now, didn't scroll up enough - my apologies!
dense cedar
But the numbers on the log are more than 30% apart...Does the sim doesn't includ...
there's defs more that goes into it, like the trinket and boots, but its ahrd comparison with such a gap in gear quality
rotationally mistake probs in there but its not rly worth the comparison
just look at ur own stuff
minor finch
Y are we not meta lol
gritty laurel
Y are we not meta lol
being good but not meta is the dream life. no fomo players, fewer nerfs, still able to get invites to groups
cyan dew
there's defs more that goes into it, like the trinket and boots, but its ahrd co...
I just can't understand why Raidbots says my theoretical DPS is 4.7M and the other person's is 5M, but in the logs the difference is over 30%. You know what I mean?
ashen zenith
Anyone have a good m+ build that uses KB? The one on archon doesn't have KB and...
Not for M+ it isn't. Fatebound ST only. Whoops giga late.
cyan dew
what even happened here lol
ye, prob far from the boss, passing a wall
pulsar plank
details kinda unhelpful would need a log
I mean I see no talent amp ct if I preserve uptime I should be good right?
dense cedar
I mean I see no talent amp ct if I preserve uptime I should be good right?
we you using it in ST?
pulsar plank
yes
dense cedar
hmm
ashen zenith
Arterial Precision.
pulsar plank
ofc
pulsar plank
max 3-4 seconds
coral ibex
Gm
dense cedar
ur down to 2 things
coral ibex
coral ibex
why not
pulsar plank
12s thing
dense cedar
CT insta damage is still good
coral ibex
sudden demise reclaims lost bleed damage
there's no reason to not have a pack bleeding as it dies
dense cedar
that too
crisp venture
I dont do ct on a dying pack
feels troll
crisp venture
what are u gaining from not doing that
dense cedar
CT hasn't done insta damage for a long time
oh really?
im dumb
ignore meo n that then
spice surge
CT hasn't done insta damage for a long time
Aschually
pulsar plank
well even so it would increase the damage of sudden demise not ct
spice surge
But that doesnt really affect any decision you'd make around it
dense cedar
i press it cos red buttons r good
should be calling it red build
@cyan dew wait were u trolling
cyan dew
<@205859665123213314> wait were u trolling
where?
cyan dew
Ye but I did a zoom of both times, no?
dense cedar
the only difference
cyan dew
Does it change things?
cyan dew
When it's the execute phase? Didn't knew there was one
dense cedar
?
cloud nacelle
BuGS bEen FiXEd yET???
dense cedar
read your tooltips on the left bottom of the spec tree
sharp haven
is the individual dps loss from wound poison on the halls mini boss worth it for overall more group damage?
main bridge
It’s more fun to just one phase that boss
dense cedar
sub, outlaw win in hoa
for the minoboss
can just swap nicely
I'd say it sucks to lose the funnel from caustic from using wound
but u don't even get taht rn
umbral sigil
I think I fucked up just about every shiv drunk raiding last night
pulsar plank
I'm logging db now will update as soon as the key finishes
cyan dew
read your tooltips on the left bottom of the spec tree
you mean the blindside and zoldyck passive at 35%?
dense cedar
you mean the blindside and zoldyck passive at 35%?
zoldyck passive counts envenom for instance
so bursting inside that window is huge gains
then if the fight even like right after
makes ur dps real big
cyan dew
got it
dense cedar
so much shorter fight + execute burst very good
dense cedar
this guy also has real weapons
cyan dew
Envenom diff is huge
mystic hornet
So I just started playing the fatebound raid spec. I have 4pc. Didn’t seem like my cooldowns were aligning every 90sec.
Do I need to vanish every 3min during my burst window to get another proc of edge case and reduce the remaining time on my cooldowns or something?
dim slate
how do i keep from messing up my edge case coins
cyan dew
this guy also has real weapons
That's the thing about it, when you sim both, I do like 4.8 and he does 4.7 or something. lol
cyan dew
AYO you crafted a ring
outlaw BiS. : /
harsh anchor
smh my head
cyan dew
just changed specs. xD
glossy light
hi, im running sims and signet sims 0,7% more on dungeon slice than my prism on same ilvl, it doesnt feel right so Im asking if i should listen to it or play prism anyway
dense cedar
@cyan dew is there a reason u completely hold dm at 3 minutes?
cyan dew
waiting for the boss to throw us
dim meteor
is 37% crit to high?
dense cedar
is 37% crit to high?
no,don't think about it like that tho
harsh anchor
Now what if you have 51% crit, holy smokes, I crit half the time
cyan dew
<@205859665123213314> is there a reason u completely hold dm at 3 minutes?
but yeah, I think I mistimed
dense cedar
waiting for the boss to throw us
you had enough time for a full DM window before then
cyan dew
Yep it was my bad, first time doing that fight as SIN.
dense cedar
it pushed your last DM to be like 5 seconds before the boss died
which no burst inside it
pretty big loss to basically lose a use of your major cd
their last use is at 6:25
of a 7:03 kill
your's is at 7:01
dense cedar
Yep it was my bad, first time doing that fight as SIN.
like ur not really behind until that wasted time catches up on you
honest flower
like ur not really behind until that wasted time catches up on you
Also if you look at secondaries you got very high crit and mastery. Less haste could be a reason why you have less casts on mutilitate and envenom. Just an additional thought.
dim meteor
how much haste should you have
grim jay
how much haste should you have
Atleast 0
honest flower
how much haste should you have
Sim.
main bridge
I’m not sure focusing on stats is the answer
grim jay
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
- Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
main bridge
Performance is more important
dense cedar
Also if you look at secondaries you got very high crit and mastery. Less haste c...
this is basically irrelevant
haste to energy regen is a miniscule conversion
cyan dew
Also if you look at secondaries you got very high crit and mastery. Less haste c...
Yeah. It seems I just need to get a weapon and time my CD's perfectly on fights.
honest flower
haste to energy regen is a miniscule conversion
Okay. My idea was wrong 😄 Like to keep a good conversation flowing
royal lantern
Also if you look at secondaries you got very high crit and mastery. Less haste c...
how has haste impact on mutilate and envenom casts lol
dense cedar
how has haste impact on mutilate and envenom casts lol
they were thinking of energy regen I think
golden loom
isnt it like 10% haste = 1 extra cast per min
dense cedar
which ye. is not really a thing
golden loom
its worth pretty much nothing for energy regen
willow grotto
Haste = more dot ticks
honest flower
i just saw that the better log had like 8 more envevoms and 12 more mutilates...
vocal seal
what does the final upgrade of weshi waps do ?
arctic socket
That’s probably from pooling properly
dense cedar
i just saw that the better log had like 8 more envevoms and 12 more mutilates...
they got an extra DM in the fight
royal lantern
That’s probably from pooling properly
no?
grim jay
That’s probably from pooling properly
We dont do that around here anymore
lucid silo
guys are we bugged? 
dense cedar
which is just more overall energy
golden loom
!pooling
prisma monolithBOT
- Energy just is low on the spec there's nothing to do about it, you will run out
- Only one pooling condition exists (pool around 4 seconds before non-deathmark kingsbanes until 150ish energy). This is worth 0.3%
- Other optimizations are simply not impactful enough to show a benefit in sims, but pooling before quick-dying add spawns could in theory be a practical gain to pad.
arctic socket
We dont do that around here anymore
Shhh we do
grim jay
Shhh we do
Make me shhh
grim jay
royal lantern
mate, pooling means using less abilitys
how is using less abilitys result in using more abilitys
willow grotto
Just spam and see what happen 😄
royal lantern
Just spam and see what happen 😄
thats literally assa gameplay for like 10years now
pooling is not a thing for ages at this point
willow grotto
Work pretty well
honest flower
they got an extra DM in the fight
This probably leads to the difference in spell usage.
vocal seal
chat is this ragebait
hollow vessel
So, we shouldn't worry about envenom uptime at all, right? We just need to pool for KIngsbane windows and only for 3-4 secs, yes?
royal lantern
just press abilitys
balmy condor
Yes
royal lantern
one of the biggest mistakes on assa is unironicaly overthinking everything you do
just use abilitys
vocal seal
Blizzard be like,
-
be above 50% energy for Sanguine blades
-
most energy starved spec
hehe
royal lantern
Blizzard be like,
- be above 50% energy for Sanguine blades
- most energy sta...
well, the idea is that you manage your energy for more bleed dmg, and that it turns the surplus of energy you have in AoE into more dmg instead of letting it all go to waste
but bleeds are not strong enough to be played around in ST so its ignored there
lucid silo
also you have take the talent in single target because 
pulsar plank
Guess what forgot to type /combatlog in chat
cursive marsh
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
main bridge
Guess what forgot to type /combatlog in chat
MRT can auto enable this for you
dense cedar
also you have take the talent in single target because <:smartahon:5258617176584...
wdym
arctic socket
Splatter topping garrote Ayo
pulsar plank
but I dont know what I am missing
pulsar plank
I never missed ct uptime
main bridge
Post logs details isn’t the whole picture
pulsar plank
never
coral ibex
that literally cant be the case
or you arent playing bleed build
i see 77% uptime
my CT uptime is usually 90+% in these breakdowns
so you definitely did miss uptime
dense cedar
rude question but, you are also standing in the enemies right?
pulsar plank
I mean I do garrote rupture and do muti/ct which should be right thing to do I think
coral ibex
im very sure you're not keeping up bleeds enough
bc sanguine is low
CT is low
rupture is below garrote
last skiff
Jastor bug in dungeon also?
arctic socket
Maybe they’re playing the cleave build
coral ibex
doubt, envenom would be a lot higher
pulsar plank
I have bleed m+ build
dense cedar
Maybe they’re playing the cleave build
zero kb damage would be kinda psycho
pulsar plank
dense cedar
omg
ashen zenith
Oh no.
pulsar plank
ftb?
coral ibex
thats not the problem here
dense cedar
use follow the blood
ashen zenith
Follow the Blood.
pulsar plank
but momentum of despair sims higher for me
dense cedar
since momentum doesn't even work
dense cedar
but momentum of despair sims higher for me
bugged talent
once you press shiv once
it turns off
pulsar plank
ohhhh
humble verge
yes
coral ibex
this is what my damage breakdown looks like after a key
playing bleed
this is a 13 gambit
i'm 100% sure you are not keeping up rupture and CT enough
main bridge
cloak damage so low your cloak is WEAK bro
mossy sundial
Looks about right
dense cedar
my cloak did 369 mil in an eco dome earlier
vocal seal
excuse you
balmy condor
idk my cloak is 730 and i have heroic boots
Just proc more? What’s the issue?
coral ibex
Just proc more? What’s the issue?
arctic socket
Proc rng
slow moon
!macro
prisma monolithBOT
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
coral ibex
we havent dropped any plate boots yet
dense cedar
I have not seen leather boots on any char yet
it took mine from vault
coral ibex
all leather and mail
main bridge
we get plate every week
dense cedar
i think the guild has seen 1 pair of leather boots and we've killed the hunters of normla and heroic every week
legit only saw mail boots and like 1 plate boots until this week
evil game
pulsar plank
just did a target dummy test I guess it was the talent
runic basin
!dj
prisma monolithBOT
Vanishing On Fatebound
- you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
- this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
- because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
- edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
- you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst
fallow canopy
new command
dim meteor
what about on deathstalker
pulsar plank
master assassin
coral ibex
finally
harsh anchor
too many steps, I play deathstalker now
dim meteor
fallow canopy
you just press buttons lol
isn't that what you do on every single thing? 
dense cedar
oh wow, fb is easier than fb
they are about equal actually
ashen zenith
A monk main.
dense cedar
no monk hate here
spice spire
I welcome the monk friends
humble verge
monk is bad
dense cedar
or i will be very sad
dense cedar
monk is bad
ur getting sent out the airlock
humble verge
ur getting sent out the airlock
so is ur mom
weak plover
Where do I get a rogue badge? asking for a friend
harsh anchor
yo mamas house
humble verge
They’re just 2020 Assassination rogue so real
when was assa bad in SL?
main bridge
John Cena is a very handsome dude
weak plover
at the start
humble verge
weak plover
when it had zero energy generation
harsh anchor
Didn't we get like an aura 200% buff in S1 SL
spice spire
when was assa bad in SL?
In keys all of them (it was best on 9.1 because of the affix)
spice spire
Didn't we get like an aura 200% buff in S1 SL
It was like a 56% aura or some shit
spice spire
i did some assa keys sls1
I’ve never done a key in a different spec (while playing rogue)
But that’s because I hate my friends
rapid sandal
!trinket
spice spire
Which
humble verge
lmao
rapid sandal
yeah planning to, was just gonna check quick before stating this arakara
thanks for the help!
spice spire
Glhf gamer
static glacier
has the pesticide come in yet
north heath
how copium are we about fixes before Midnight?
north heath
static glacier
bugfixes announced within 5 days from now, real bugs will remain for 2 weeks.
gritty laurel
tbh i'm coasting this patch. no next season to prepare for and i'm a filthy aotc casual who hates M+
umbral sigil
tbh i'm coasting this patch. no next season to prepare for and i'm a filthy aotc...
same but i like m+
static glacier
tbh i'm coasting this patch. no next season to prepare for and i'm a filthy aotc...
im my guilds only rogue, i don't wanna make the class look shit yknow
umbral sigil
im my guilds only rogue, i don't wanna make the class look shit yknow
same but i make every class look shit
spice spire
im my guilds only rogue, i don't wanna make the class look shit yknow
It’s called sandbagging king
Stay toxic
tardy geyser
what the fk, doing a dawnbreaker and my garrote isnt generating any energy and caustic splatter isnt working AT ALL
umbral sigil
😄
static glacier
It’s called sandbagging king
i mean im unironically using lilly if frac wont be below 35% at prism use
tardy geyser
had to switch to sub to continue dungeon lol
spice spire
what the fk, doing a dawnbreaker and my garrote isnt generating any energy and c...
Seems like a stupid question
But did you have the right poison on?
(Deadly not instant)
coral ibex
were you in the right talents
tardy geyser
yeah i applied before start
coral ibex
did you rupture
tardy geyser
yeah checked everything
static glacier
i wonder if whoever named caustic regrets making it spatter instead of splatter
coral ibex
do you have a log of spatter not doing anything
balmy condor
instant poison
coral ibex
or of no venomous wound ticks
balmy condor
Two bugs that never happen? And they both are explained by not having deadly poison?
coral ibex
no spatter is usually just no rupture on target tbh
balmy condor
Cannot be anything else
umbral sigil
spice spire
My mental has been reset so I’m clean
gritty laurel
layer 8 issue
balmy condor
It’s always pebcak until extensively proven otherwise
umbral sigil
do i day drink before prog tonight
umbral sigil
i day drank before reclears last night and not one correct usage of shiv was seen in those logs
gritty laurel
race change to troll, boom instantly looks better
clever sparrow
race change to troll, boom instantly looks better
ITS EXPENSIVE IN THIS COUNTRY
umbral sigil
imagine not having shadowmeld though
gritty laurel
don't have to imagine not having a useless keybind
umbral sigil
lol idk if its been bugged but its been letting me restealth in combat in m+
......sometimes
pulsar plank
the key got depleted but it looks fine rn
gritty laurel
it doesn't let you restealth on bosses and is unreliable outside of that, i'd rather just use vanish and have a racial that doesn't actively grief me
umbral sigil
8.2% uptime on garrote
spice spire
i day drank before reclears last night and not one correct usage of shiv was see...
Absolutely
Then when asked about shit logs
tardy geyser
But did you have the right poison on?
woops...
spice spire
Can say “idk was drunk”
spice spire
woops... <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
pulsar plank
but the damage increase MUAH MUAH MAMA MIA
tardy geyser
cant even see a single poison application in the log, long ahh day
balmy condor
fallow canopy
pliant remnant
umbral sigil
tardy geyser
but does that explain garrote not generating energy
gritty laurel
yes
balmy condor
but does that explain garrote not generating energy
Venomous wounds requires poison on the target
umbral sigil
im in an api meeting rn and i had to turn my camera off
gritty laurel
umbral sigil
i dont think ive laughed this hard in a while
balmy condor
Knowing the fundamentals of your spec 
clever sparrow
maybe i should my rogue a female belf
balmy condor
Can recommend
clever sparrow
idk
gritty laurel
pro tip: get a weakaura to clog your screen until you apply poisons
yeah what peter said
tardy geyser
yah i need to change this its so feint
lament bolt
Yes, obnoxious reminders are the best way to remember to poison your stuff
devout mist
how little haste does fatebound assa want wtf, its throwing me under 10% at this point according to sims
tardy geyser
can you link me any
gritty laurel
there's no set number, just do what the computer tells you with gear
fatebound likes crit
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
jaunty lava
Does a WA exist where it shows the target count in AoE so I can track better if everyone has bleed on them?
pliant remnant
can you link me any
clever sparrow
Does a WA exist where it shows the target count in AoE so I can track better if ...
this?
gritty laurel
you don't really need to track bleed on every target. maintain scent, mass spread garrote during IC, and just track CT timer on your main target
outside of that, you're just slamming envenoms anyway
pliant remnant
coral ibex
i need to combine 
with
tardy geyser
make sure you track your poisons tho so you dont clown yourself like i did
spice spire
coral ibex