Like give me a sec
#assassination
warm vortex
drifting cloud
wow enjoyer
feral mason
4x8 = 32
warm vortex
and one dps had an MS of like 2000
the other had green gear
feral mason
6*5 is 30
warm vortex
and it was the most fun i've had this season
feral mason
Missing 2 
warm vortex
cause we just dicked around hte entire time
and still, timed the 10 floodgate and steve got a pacemaker
midnight mist
I think the very start is very rough cause you will have 0 ADR uptime and do legit tank damage until you figure stuffs out, then I think the mid range is relatively ok, and then getting the last % of damage is impossible
warm vortex
I was at like 95 until i realized i got a uni degree to get
Uni starts for me in a few weeks
feral mason
Last year of mech engi bachelor for me
Still no clue what i do after
Master or lockheed martin type shi
warm vortex
Tbh i've got 2nd year of computer forensics coming
and 1st year was just general computer shit
And i'm in contact with someone in the police force for work experiance as a forensic in the future
so i've got plans, just need to see them completed
feral mason
not the same thing unc
feral mason
Man analyzing crime scenes like he analyzes logs
Gonna take 3 years to solve crimes just like it took 3 to find bf bug
midnight mist
Stfu wtf
midnight mist
And you lose your taza hard mode piece ..
Gg
@feral mason are you 2 win in hm or no
main bridge
I could be a forensic guy
feral mason
<@258304854966009856> are you 2 win in hm or no
ofc not what
midnight mist
You lost?
feral mason
mfs died to spinny boss
main bridge
good show but the remakes are soulless money grabs
midnight mist
Haha
feral mason
Havent done yet this week
warm vortex
hahaha
warm vortex
As in they work a job or their brains work
midnight mist
Im allowed
warm vortex
or both
midnight mist
I never take holidays
midnight mist
Wish i had brain workin group
ok but did you train on ptr
we did 2 runs on ptr
or one
maybe we only did one
ye
our cat wasnt here we just made him watch dratnos video
or was it tettles video
idk
either one
good video tho
feral mason
ok but did you train on ptr
no
feral mason
i just did the first attempt with random prog team guildies on tuesday 1am
midnight mist
Did you even know what the hard mode mechanics were
wicked carbon
People thinking they're gonna yolo deathless hardmode with 0 ptr training cracks me up
Even top players were getting wiped on ptr
fresh kelp
It’s really not that bad
wicked carbon
Like the dragon is not something you first try with 0 attempt before
Idc who you are
Even echo/liquid wiped to it
analog field
yeah dragon is the most difficult i think without something like druid
cursive cloak
chat is this a problem or can I get away with it?
midnight mist
It is if you just go In yoloing first week
fresh kelp
You could first try dragon with some of the busted specs for it
warm vortex
chat is this a problem or can I get away with it?
What do sims say
fresh kelp
shaman/druid trivialize it a bit
warm vortex
Big robot knows best
fresh kelp
ye
drifting cloud
you simply outgear the dragon
atleast on 2-3 other bosses you can fuck up mechanically
midnight mist
Ye week 1
light quarry
anyone got the copy/paste for consumes etc?
wicked carbon
chat is this a problem or can I get away with it?
In terms of damage, probably, in terms of gameplay, you're gonna be oom all the time
hidden crystal
it could be just me, cause yk im bad, but did anyone else kinda fall behind this week on damage in raid not having 4 pc?
wicked carbon
4pc is kinda huge
hidden crystal
maybe its cause i dont have lily though. i regret getting myth crystal i think.
main bridge
anyone who doesn't have tier is going to be behind regardless of spec
oblique slate
I love it when Kyveza just despawns when I vanish
wicked carbon
You're supposed to play fatebound in raid but fatebound without 4pc sounds weird
Might be better off playin DM
analog field
nah, the dmg is way too much for FB
warm vortex
anyone who doesn't have tier is going to be behind regardless of spec
🤓 👆 Uhm acshtually the BM fwour swet cwan swhumtimes bwe a dwowongrade deprending on thweuh switchuation wand witem lweveth
analog field
and you are good in the meters even without 4set
silk sundial
Ye week 1
What's the sub cheese? You just hit a dummy to build prism stacks, coup and shadowcraft then hit boss? My group did hm last week, made it to hooktail without deaths but wiped there a few times
warm vortex
no, FB is good even without tier
It's a shame about all the bugs that are effecting it atm
main bridge
hopefully they are fixed. the KB fix the first week or whatever was huge
midnight mist
What's the sub cheese? You just hit a dummy to build prism stacks, coup and shad...
https://www.twitch.tv/zac__________________/clip/OnerousConsiderateCaribouVoteNay-GVNKEspcKOGerXlj then you kill boss
silk sundial
I'll try it tonight. Just zerg the bosses before you actually have to do the mechanics, like the mail boss
wicked carbon
https://www.twitch.tv/zac__________________/clip/OnerousConsiderateCaribouVoteNa...
Can you ask Monksea to do a brew guide
Bro is doing crazy damage on brew and I have no idea how he does it
main bridge
Bro is doing crazy damage on brew and I have no idea how he does it
tier set is just really strong
the brewmaster in my group is constantly blasting
wicked carbon
Yeah I'm blasting too, compared to other tanks
viscid spear
Got KSM, now to build up my ilvl so I can get better
wicked carbon
But Monksea is on another level
warm vortex
Yea, brew seems cool atm
Also, do yo uguys think assas gonna get some tuning? (exluding bugfixes)
Or any rogue specs for that matter
main bridge
no way to know. i'm just going to ride the wave as long as i can
hidden crystal
are my secondaries jacked up for raid? cause i legit felt very weak last night. running fatebound
drifting cloud
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
- Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
warm vortex
no way to know. i'm just going to ride the wave as long as i can
Atm im just playing rogue and dabbling in all 3 hunter specs
normal mist
are my secondaries jacked up for raid? cause i legit felt very weak last night. ...
For ST fatebound in raid you do want basically everything enchanted to crit and a lot of crit
that's it
hidden crystal
For ST fatebound in raid you do want basically everything enchanted to crit and ...
got it
thanks for that
normal mist
you can sim patchwerk fatebound and check if it still wants more crit
even weapon enchants
wicked carbon
Anyone else got some really slow raidbots sims lately ?
main bridge
i always use alchemical chaos but you can sim to be sure
coral ibex
clanker lover
warm vortex
I mean, it is designed for optimal efficiency
thorn thorn
Rn i just listen to whatever the robot says
Are you a sin player now
high dust
Its the mail boss trinket any good? got in on hero track o a random key but idk if put it on cause i have astral antenna from LFR and the essence-gorger from champion track
thorn thorn
Is bm that jover
warm vortex
Are you a sin player now
Yes and no
I play both
Rn im raiding with 2 groups and assa for one BM for the other
But im testing out all 3 hunt specs in m+
prime stirrup
Did some1 have a weakaura for assa that tracks ur bleeds on targets?
pure moth
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warm vortex
Tonight is the first time i'm properly playing with the 4set tho
So it's gonna be fun :D
lilac kite
Boys, I’ve been running hekili just to spot differences in what I’m doing vs what the apl wants…. In aoe opener I do something like garrotes > rup > rup > ambush or env depending on DN > CT ( but before this CT it wants me to spam more garrotes inside imp garrote window) but after subterfuge. Any idea why?
marsh fjord
Boys, I’ve been running hekili just to spot differences in what I’m doing vs wha...
because of IC
to have garrotes on all targets
lilac kite
Yeah I figured that’s why, does IC go 6 secs after subterfuge ends?
Or is subterfuge 3s and IC 6
marsh fjord
yeah its 12 seconds total
lilac kite
Yeah ok I figured as much but didn’t understand the mechanism
marsh fjord
and a mut after that CT
lilac kite
Thanks
sharp trellis
!gear
prisma monolithBOT
arctic dust
my netherprism seems to never sim better than any other trinket composition (single target 1 boss fatebound). Is that due to my stat distribution or is there any other explanation? sim is here
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nCEfX9YBxezKN8GRRGL6eA
fresh kelp
my netherprism seems to never sim better than any other trinket composition (sin...
you're simming a 704 prism against a 723 lily
lily is pretty good, its gonna be better 20 ilvl higher
split veldt
does cloak not work on loom anymore? I just died to the run out with it up
marsh fjord
does cloak not work on loom anymore? I just died to the run out with it up
Mine did last week
Do you have logs?
stable apex
should i change my sim timer depending on boss fight duration?
fickle latch
Do you have to play the orbs from Astral Antena or can you just kinda wait instead of going out of your wait to get them ?
marsh fjord
nah no logs it's a pug
is it possible you pressed it to earlier or to late
split veldt
maybe ill try again
dense cedar
should i change my sim timer depending on boss fight duration?
no
rigid fable
any tip to use prism trinkt? should i hold full stacked to use with deathmark?
dense cedar
any tip to use prism trinkt? should i hold full stacked to use with deathmark?
FB or DS?
rigid fable
FB
dense cedar
Use with vanish in the 3m windows
rigid fable
full stacked right?
young sonnet
just started doing 12s should I swap off of the bleed build in favor of forced induction?
dense cedar
just started doing 12s should I swap off of the bleed build in favor of forced i...
No
dense cedar
and whata bout DS?
use with DM
rigid fable
aight
stable apex
no
i need more people to answer like that and explain why
have a friend who is yapping about higher duration sims being smart because avg boss fight is 6-8 min
dense cedar
you're better off asking someone with a deeper understand of the sims than myself
for a bigger explaination
minor gate
is their a reason why we arent using iron wire this season?
dense cedar
is their a reason why we arent using iron wire this season?
lose too much pathing to it
minor gate
for just 1 talent? oh wow
minor gate
good point
last skiff
royal lantern
is their a reason why we arent using iron wire this season?
noticable dmg loss
royal lantern
^
marsh fjord
i need more people to answer like that and explain why
What do you want to know
minor gate
i guess another question is, is it worth pooling for sanguine blades or just peddle to the meddle
marsh fjord
i guess another question is, is it worth pooling for sanguine blades or just ped...
no
it's the last thing you worry about
if you can, you can, if dont, you dont
stable apex
What do you want to know
why its dumb to change from default sim time
royal lantern
have a friend who is yapping about higher duration sims being smart because avg ...
does your friend know that a 5min sim is not "it runs 5min only
minor gate
👍
royal lantern
its AVERAGE TIME 5min
that includes 4min and 6min as aswell as an example
the average time at the end is 5min
marsh fjord
Yeah its many itterations. if you do 8 minutes. some itterations will go up to 10
dense cedar
sanguine blades in ST mega noob trap
marsh fjord
and only dimensuis mythic takes 10 minutes
fresh kelp
why its dumb to change from default sim time
its not dumb, its technically slightly more accurate for some things (like prism, which gets better the longer a fight is)
royal lantern
and doing 6-8 min as an example also heavy skewes the reslts, cus 6-8min heavy favors 2min cd specs
so the number will look bigger
fresh kelp
eye of kezan last tier as well, maybe doesn't look amazing in a 5min sim but gets very very good in an 8 min sim (which would be closer to reality for earlier tier prog)
marsh fjord
Eye of kezan insane on ky'veza on example
desert crest
If u know the range of times of how fast u can kill the boss then it makes sense to sim for this specific range of times yes
marsh fjord
( the delve)
marsh fjord
If u know the range of times of how fast u can kill the boss then it makes sense...
No not really. because it still won't be the exact time. my question would be. why do you wanna sim that?
desert crest
Range of times you would adjust the fight length variance
Such that the distribution match the observed distribution of kill times
You would want to aim that when u want to know eg. How much dmg u will do or just want to optimise for this specific fight
marsh fjord
I feel like that information is extremely useless. but that might be me
Just kill the boss
desert crest
Well u kinda have to chose a sim kill length
marsh fjord
Most bosses last 5 minutes. if you can be withnin 10% of your sim then your doing good imo
fresh kelp
for an example this tier, eye of kezan simmed equal for me on a fight like loomithar (compared to my 701 db crystal at the time), but when you add in the damage amp below 50%, it became a 1% gain (because you're full stacked for the damage amp already)
wet wharf
Sorry people, can someone link me the thistle tea macro that doesnt use it twice. know its been linked 100 times
royal lantern
!tea
prisma monolithBOT
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
royal lantern
long hawk
how big of a dps gain/optimization is it to only use nether prism on every 3 minute death mark?
as opposed to on every deathmark
with 4pc kb
icy geyser
we stick to ds in M+ or switch to fatebound till its fixed?
sly spoke
prob ds
warm vortex
Just had the curry i ordered earlier
holy shit i feel like i just ate more than i ever have
royal lantern
how big of a dps gain/optimization is it to only use nether prism on every 3 min...
~1% iirc
not really a giant dealbreaker if you dont wanna do it
marsh fjord
we stick to ds in M+ or switch to fatebound till its fixed?
It wouldnt matter how much of a shit show DS would be
you never go fatebound in m+
sharp junco
with unyelding netherprism, do we send it every time we deathmark or save up more?
in ST as fatebound?
long hawk
with unyelding netherprism, do we send it every time we deathmark or save up mor...
but like tryan said above if you dont wanna dont, its a 1% dps gain
sharp junco
Do you save vanish for 1 min to line up vanish with deathmark
marsh fjord
You save vanish for your second DM
sharp junco
oki
dense cedar
even if only 1% gain
its like zero extra work
u just macro it to vanish
rather than macro it to dm
its the same difference
long hawk
you'd have to vanish before death mark too right?
runic hinge
3th
long hawk
not on the opener no we werent
minor dagger
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dense cedar
not on the opener no we werent
long hawk
holy airball
unborn rain
are we sthutting down the discord till were fixed
long hawk
https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/316923750073499648/1406901294693...
oh then this needs to be added on wowhead
or im blind
charred mango
Is it okay to rupture in kb? Sometimes when trying to keep kb on cd I just end up not having enough rupture duration to last the whole thing. Or is that just bad play/always avoidable?
dense cedar
i think it isn't on there cos its just legit confusing to say
"place it anwhere in this sequence"
when it doesn't actually matter
limpid flume
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dense cedar
like if u don't macro nether and vanish together
and just press ur trink before dm
u can still vanish after
dense cedar
Is it okay to rupture in kb? Sometimes when trying to keep kb on cd I just end u...
as long as the envenom buff is running its dps neutral
charred mango
Gotcha ty!
quartz kiln
Hello, I have a problem, I came to see if you could give me some clarity. In raids, for some reason, I deal less damage with Envenom than other Assassins who use less Envenoms than I do. Additionally, the crit % of my Envenoms is higher. What could this be due to? Maybe I'm not using enough CP when I use Envenom? (usually I use it with 5+)
tardy geyser
lucky me 
rotund jungle
someone got a good tracker for netherprism?
tardy geyser
i just picked one up someone made a weakaura
dense cedar
Hello, I have a problem, I came to see if you could give me some clarity. In rai...
do u have a log
quartz kiln
someone got a good tracker for netherprism?
the typical wa of racials/trinkets tracking
quartz kiln
do u have a log
nop, sorry
dense cedar
can't know what's happening then
noble pine
hey is there an updated version of the Kingsbane Timeline weakaura ?
runic basin
do we finish wirh 6-7 cp on fatebound?
viscid spear
runic basin
5 or more
i use the dev Wa pack
normally it should swap at this point to red points or im wrong?
rotund jungle
the typical wa of racials/trinkets tracking
wich is wich?^^
runic basin
i use the dev Wa pack
marsh fjord
I never understood why people want to track netherprism
when you press it with vanish anyway
or DM
in keys
sharp haven
sometimes on bosses with intermissions (araz) i cant refresh deathstalkers without vanish after the intermission since i target swapped. is the best way to play around this is to just hold darkest night if the new target is going to die soon to apply deathstalkers to the boss again?
runic basin
the wa tracks trinkets..im sorry
royal lantern
the wa tracks trinkets..im sorry
no sorry
into the shame corner with you
and feel bad for what you did
twin hull
Fok can go eff itself…10mobs…2 cast of fok…2cps received…gimme shrunken strike plis
gritty laurel
sometimes on bosses with intermissions (araz) i cant refresh deathstalkers witho...
you try to juggle your mark across the pillars, but it's not an issue if you have to vanish to reapply to the boss. that's what vanish is there for
sharp junco
!vanish
prisma monolithBOT
Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:
- Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
- Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied
As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.
gritty laurel
that command was a season 1 thing, we aren't playing MA in raid anymore
dense cedar
villainous command
gritty laurel
vanish is not a dps cooldown for raid deathstalker
minor gate
killing a Pilon doesnt give you back your mark on forgeweaver?
dense cedar
killing a Pilon doesnt give you back your mark on forgeweaver?
no
gritty laurel
no, they do the weird thing where they don't technically "die"
royal lantern
killing a Pilon doesnt give you back your mark on forgeweaver?
🙂
minor gate
reasons why i hate it
small garnet
how the fuck do you blast in m+ as assa man i do dogshit dmg everytime
normal mist
many bleeds, shiv BRRRR, spatteeeeeer
gritty laurel
you play bleed, get 5 stacks of scent, smash CT, and slam envenoms into spatter. and shiv, yeah
normal mist
pewpewpew
sharp haven
you try to juggle your mark across the pillars, but it's not an issue if you hav...
yea i guess i have to just pay more attention and just practice. use vanish as safety net. ty
rotund jungle
I never understood why people want to track netherprism
cause i use it on 3 min ?^^
marsh fjord
cause i use it on 3 min ?^^
You just macro it to your cooldowns
and you never look back
rotund jungle
no
marsh fjord
Yes
small garnet
im in shambles in m+ im always around 4.3-4.8 unless its streets there im even more dog
gritty laurel
but what about your rotation changes based on prism stacks? it's the same reason i don't track KB stacks or coins on FB. doesn't matter, you keep doing the same shit anyway
normal mist
how's your dmg breakdown
rotund jungle
if i do so i press it wqith like 8 stacks or smth
marsh fjord
if i do so i press it wqith like 8 stacks or smth
Doesnt matter
for FB you use it every 3 minutes
and then its fully stacked anyway
FOR DS you might have an arguement because you use it every 2
it litteraly does not matter
small garnet
how's your dmg breakdown
marsh fjord
Mabye if you doing like 16 keys at the moment. and want to hold netherprism for like mini boss in halls of HOA
small garnet
3 different 10s
marsh fjord
but most people can litteraly just macro it
normal mist
overall your caustic seems kinda low
crisp venture
small garnet
that is streets 10 does deffo seem low af in comparison
silk sundial
that is streets 10 does deffo seem low af in comparison
What does your opener on a aoe pack look like? Are you getting your bleeds out, Mark, spatter, env spam?
stable sinew
that is streets 10 does deffo seem low af in comparison
Your spatter is super low
small garnet
ambush garotte into double uh rupture then i mostly slam a ambush for caustic and some more garrotes into fok ct
silk sundial
Tbf in 10s stuff does die really fast and it can be hard to get much spatter value
stable sinew
Yeah but envenom shouldn’t be higher than your spatter
like this is a halls 10
10.2 ovr
nova river
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grand trail
this works right
coral ibex
no
marsh fjord
this works right
Just do /use 13 or /use 14
grand trail
good that i asked 😄
marsh fjord
Always checks if it works just to be sure 🙂
cloud musk
when do you press cd's on mythic lumi? balls feel like they are always there
normal mist
good that i asked 😄
You ignored me in dornogal a few days ago, i'm sad
lyric gate
no fucking way
wary breach
!gear
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cursive island
anyone else been rooted when they try to step to infused tangles on loom? put me on top of it instead of behind
fierce sigil
do i need more haste in raid? i feel so hard energy starved
normal mist
No
idle siren
Hello, which spec is best around 8-11 keys level? Dont have much time and to play rogue a little this patch. What spec will be most welcomed in pugs? Thank you ♥️
royal lantern
haste has no impact on energy
normal mist
Haste wouldn't fix it
normal mist
Hello, which spec is best around 8-11 keys level? Dont have much time and to pla...
Bleed
stable sinew
do i need more haste in raid? i feel so hard energy starved
8-10 is good for both raid and m+
normal mist
8-10 is good for both raid and m+
Based on what?
stable sinew
Wdym
normal mist
Where did those numbers come from
minor dagger
!gear
prisma monolithBOT
viscid spear
do i need more haste in raid? i feel so hard energy starved
!design
prisma monolithBOT
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.
Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.
stable sinew
From top rogues that play at high levels
normal mist
viscid spear
stable sinew
What haste should you run then bub
normal mist
viscid spear
normal mist
I'd tune it down with the insults
stable sinew
Shivering
viscid spear
I'd tune it down with the insults
Spicy little guy, ain't he
stable sinew
I was giving him a base point of haste
lucid yew
welly big mad for no reason
viscid spear
I was giving him a base point of haste
stable sinew
welly big mad for no reason
No one is mad at all bby
normal mist
Week 2, "top rogues have 8-10%" they must have so many other choices for gear right
meager plank
!UP
prisma monolithBOT
stable sinew
But like I said it’s like talking with a wall
viscid spear
Week 2, "top rogues have 8-10%" they must have so many other choices for gear ri...
Top Rogue in the game equips an Int trinket, kills Mythic Dimensius
"Clearly this trinket is now BiS for everyone" ~Welly probably
winter vapor
hc saladaar - caustic or staying with internal bleeding?
brave stump
!shiv
prisma monolithBOT
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
stable sinew
*Top Rogue in the game equips an Int trinket, kills Mythic Dimensius*
*"Clearly ...
Once again is that even what I said?
viscid spear
Once again is that even what I said?
Just keep hitting things with your sub-10% haste fren
stable sinew
Exactly
I was giving someone a base point of decent amount of a certain stat and get attacked 😂
full sandal
normal mist
What is a base of decent amount of a certain stat
stable sinew
Are you just slow?
normal mist
So if one has below 8-10% they should enchant more haste?
thorn thorn
8-10 is good for both raid and m+
Me when I lie
I also love spreading misinformation
gritty laurel
stable sinew
So if one has below 8-10% they should enchant more haste?
Is that what I said ?
gritty laurel
kinda, yeah?
stable sinew
kinda, yeah?
How
normal mist
And I'm the slow one
thorn thorn
untold crown
Hey is there like some source i can seek help as assa rogue? I have 700 ilvl 2 set and grey parsing in raid. I copied always the top warcraftlogs dude talents on each boss. i feel like outside cds energy starving. where can I get some help? new to retail. played classic before
thorn thorn
Idk bruh says it right there
maiden sierra
!richard
prisma monolithBOT
stable sinew
Holy fk
thorn thorn
The given stat value implies you want to reach it
stable sinew
I forgot how special needs this place was
gritty laurel
Hey is there like some source i can seek help as assa rogue? I have 700 ilvl 2 ...
the wowhead guide and whispyr's youtube have pretty much everything you need
feral mason
dawg
thorn thorn
I forgot how special needs this place was
Get back to the short buss king
feral mason
you're embarassing yourself
thorn thorn
The other brain droolers waitin for you
feral mason
why even deny you typed something you typed
stable sinew
I didn’t deny it at all
normal mist
gritty laurel
8-10 is the point you pulled out of your ass with no backing whatsoever
thorn thorn
I didn’t deny it at all
Once again
Implied context
You should consider taking english courses king
Might help you in the future 
stable sinew
Once again
What’s your rogues name I’m curious
thorn thorn
What’s your rogues name I’m curious
Dont have a rogue
spice surge
Ait its time to stop
lucid yew
take the L welly n move on
cloud musk
Lumi mythic: CD's on pull and delay the rest after orbs? is that the way?
stable sinew
I’m vibin
thorn thorn
What’s your rogues name I’m curious
Also red flag for attacking the opponent not the argument
You are terrible at rage baiting
normal mist
Us everyday in this channel:
- guys sim your characters, don't worry about secundaries, trust the Sims. If you're playing raid too, FB ST it might ask for a lot more CRIT since CRIT and FB go hand in hand.
thorn thorn
take the L welly n move on
If he did he would be Wellly
stable sinew
Yes my bad for giving someone an opinion on what I think and another rogue literally says in his chat everyday to other people asking
normal mist
Ait its time to stop <:Surebud:1083827360815665235>
Mb sorry homie,
stable sinew
I guess Casual just sucks
stable sinew
He also says to sim himself
gritty laurel
so here's the thing: stat weighting only really matters once you've completely maxed our your ilvl on assassination. otherwise, it's almost always better to just get as much agi and raw stats as possible
stable sinew
But I got attacked by you and this other special ed fk instantly
viscid spear
no one noticed the Intellect
stable sinew
For saying it lol
thorn thorn
So you are quoting casual and just pulled a random number out of a hat while also saying to sim
stable sinew
So you are quoting casual and just pulled a random number out of a hat while als...
I’m not gonna argue with some lame low life who’s in here for entertainment bby
😘
thorn thorn
But I got attacked by you and this other special ed fk instantly
Red flag again
stable sinew
Have a good one bby
stable sinew
I’ll talk to royal
stable sinew
Who’s trying to have a conversation
craggy crater
!loot
prisma monolithBOT
feral mason
can never get outbaited
thorn thorn
Who’s trying to have a conversation
Im having a conversation but you are moving the goal post
tough gorge
Yall need to shut up
stable sinew
You’re just special
thorn thorn
Yall need to shut up
Never
keen spruce
tf is going on in here
thorn thorn
You’re just special
Well yes, so are you
keen spruce
settle down or I'm calling dad
thorn thorn
We established this
feral mason
settle down or I'm calling dad
FATHER
thorn thorn
<:garf_sit:1334889429449314456> tf is going on in here
Just an average sunday
hearty seal
who tf thought it was a good idea for pylons on Araz to not actually die when reduced to 0 HP
smh
stable sinew
My bad for arguing with people who never get past the 10 key level my bad babes
thorn thorn
My bad for arguing with people who never get past the 10 key level my bad babes
Red flag again
real pike
thoughts on taking spatter on loom for when the webs get close to the boss?
thorn thorn
Damn you are really bad at this
thorn thorn
Maybe you should git gud
feral mason
lets see the raiderio
stable sinew
I’d love it
real pike
thoughts on taking spatter on loom for when the webs get close to the boss?
or is it negligible
hearty seal
or is it negligible
likely negligible tbh
thorn thorn
Probably not worth
hearty seal
Probably not worth
your veracity is kinda in question here ngl
thorn thorn
What you mean
thorn thorn
Ew EU
stable sinew
😂😘
hearty seal
What you mean
advising against Caustic with that nickname, brudda
thorn thorn
keen spruce
wait this is all just because welly made up a random haste number to recommend people play?
thorn thorn
You got me there
keen spruce
haughty flicker
stable sinew
Made up is a word for it sure
keen spruce
I thought there was act ual drama
grave osprey
Act ual
gritty laurel
i'm like 99% certain padding on the webs doesn't count toward parse and there's no functional reason in the fight to do it
feral mason
wait this is all just because welly made up a random haste number to recommend p...
naw i just love trying to bait wow players
stable sinew
wouldnt even be title player in EU
You weren’t even title for NA
thorn thorn
I thought there was act ual drama
As usual its about something made up
feral mason
You weren’t even title for NA
A family member died and i couldnt play the last month of the season
thanks though
thorn thorn
Get botted
hard flicker
which target do you guys put ur first death mark on (and other cds) on dimensius hc? we swap targets so much
stable sinew
wait this is all just because welly made up a random haste number to recommend p...
Go run your 20% haste build
keen spruce
Made up is a word for it sure
idk what else you'd call something that doesn't have any supporting data besides anecdotal evdience or feelycraft
I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's also not right
thorn thorn
Feelycraft is the word
gritty laurel
someone was asking about energy starvation in raid and whether they needed to hit a certain haste breakpoint. the answer to that is "no, that's just the spec"
runic hinge
you should just tell people to sim instead of saying any number at all
thorn thorn
Ngl I could care less I just like to gaslight people that give bad info
real pike
i'm like 99% certain padding on the webs doesn't count toward parse and there's ...
all you had to say was it doesn't count toward parse
stable sinew
you should just tell people to sim instead of saying any number at all
That is true I’ll give you that
real pike
fuck that noise
runic hinge
<:peeposhrug:657382266921812009>
thorn thorn
Parse farmer detected
feral mason
i dont even know what started the argument i just dislike people calling others sped and shi
stable sinew
someone was asking about energy starvation in raid and whether they needed to hi...
Did he say break point ? I didn’t see that part , if he that’s my bad.
feral mason
no reason to be doing all that over wow
thorn thorn
i dont even know what started the argument i just dislike people calling others ...
Im sped asf dont worry
stable sinew
I won’t ever
placid ermine
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
stable sinew
i dont even know what started the argument i just dislike people calling others ...
So where’d you go after the link.. you kinda quivered and disappeared
I was having fun
feral mason
huh i commented on it
thorn thorn
Probably realized that like other high level players you are just insufferable and terrible to deal with
feral mason
you clearly play m+ im just memeing
thorn thorn
The ego checking is real
keen spruce
I was higher rated than you when I was still playing wow
thorn thorn
you clearly play m+ im just memeing
Minigamers rise up
keen spruce
but I'm assuming you weren't maining rogue s1
pulsar gulch
on aoe in mythic + how important is doing a mutilate every 10s for caustic splatter? or does something else apply it
royal lantern
what did i miss
feral mason
on aoe in mythic + how important is doing a mutilate every 10s for caustic splat...
very
keen spruce
(I didn't get title i'm memeing)
stable sinew
S1 was my first real season playing end game content
normal mist
on aoe in mythic + how important is doing a mutilate every 10s for caustic splat...
Extremely important
pulsar gulch
so if fok spamming weave in a mutilate all the time
stable sinew
Other than that it was just level to max and stop playing
feral mason
blindside ambushes also apply it afaik
normal mist
so if fok spamming weave in a mutilate all the time
yes
thorn thorn
Spatter good
feral mason
Title and stuff is commendable more through dedication than skill
royal lantern
feral mason
takes a pretty steadfast will to pug your way through that shi
stable sinew
Oh yeah
keen spruce
You definitely can't be a complete shitter and get title
thorn thorn
So true
feral mason
did it 1 season, was gonna do it last season but then got boomed
keen spruce
no matter how committed you are lol
stable sinew
A lot of passion but still need the skill
feral mason
You definitely can't be a complete shitter and get title
naw but you can be 80% optimized and get it honestly
thorn thorn
You definitely can't be a complete shitter and get title
This is actually 100% a lie because I know someone who is a shitter and got title
Cuz they bought title keys
stable sinew
Ehh
thorn thorn
💀
keen spruce
well i'm not counting buyers
keen spruce
I haven't played resil
stable sinew
Resil just made buying easier
feral mason
purchasing central
stable sinew
It’s insane
keen spruce
there was a bigass spreadsheet floating around
feral mason
went up like 10-15 in a few days around the final weeks
thorn thorn
takes a pretty steadfast will to pug your way through that shi
There is a dev in wyrmrest that has pugged to title S1 and S2
keen spruce
boosters outed the buyers 
feral mason
yeah i mean its doable
gray briar
i dont understand the new tierset damage boni for D-Stalker....
the deathstalker stuff is extremly weak in details (see picture) ... what use if the tierset is boosting it
feral mason
i dont want to make it sound like its not a big achievement because it is
thorn thorn
He did not have a great time I will just tell you that 
cinder geode
Are there any situations where I would want to use lily over netherprism?
feral mason
but shit is not fun through pugs by a certain point
radiant aspen
dude something wrong with assasin i do exect samde rotation i get good dps then i do same thing like sameeeeee thing i get trash dps like big differance
am i missing something
normal mist
i dont understand the new tierset damage boni for D-Stalker....
the deathstalker...
its not the deathstalkers marks that do the dmg
is everything else
Singular focus / Buffed envenoms
keen spruce
but shit is not fun through pugs by a certain point
pugging minimum title range keys late season playing slightly off meta
despair
feral mason
pugging minimum title range keys late season on any spec is despair
people arent able to handle pressure and then mental boom when something happens
thorn thorn
Pugging in general is despairge
keen spruce
misssserable
feral mason
nah i met plenty fun and nice people pugging
gray briar
its not the deathstalkers marks that do the dmg
maybe in german the translation of the tierset in wow is bad...
so everythin in the herotalent block gets the buff? Or (really) everything ?
gritty laurel
dude something wrong with assasin i do exect samde rotation i get good dps then ...
need more context. first off, the spec has something like 10-13% variance off the rip. there are also a handful of bugs right now (they shouldn't be causing massive swings though). then there's the question of whether you're in M+ or raid. basically, need some logs to see what you mean
feral mason
theres just specific times or ranges where people are on edge
thorn thorn
I met very few the last time I actually made an effort to push
keen spruce
but if you're playing enough for a title push you normally meet enough people that you kind of build out a roster
of trusty gamers
feral mason
I added like 30 people last season
feral mason
(they all switched up on me day 1 of this season when i was gone for a few days)
feral mason
not fully
i wouldnt wanna boost a guy i did a few keys with either during first few weeks
radiant aspen
need more context. first off, the spec has something like 10-13% variance off th...
can u come voice for min
feral mason
handicap 28 now
radiant aspen
ill stream game for u
feral mason
radiant aspen
i need few thing to clear up
keen spruce
takes time
normal mist
maybe in german the translation of the tierset in wow is bad...
so everythin in...
these are good
viscid spear
pugging minimum title range keys late season on any spec is despair
95% of my rating every season is pugging
thorn thorn
feral mason
got resi 19 last season, did 1 ML 20 and crashed with KS in the puddle
and then i got boomed
ks underwater glitch went crazy
viscid spear
<:salutege:1214683852681781288>
thorn thorn
Dude same
thorn thorn
Without question
winter gale
!macro
prisma monolithBOT
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
thorn thorn
@normal mist Need help on how to prevent my new player from being dumb
He somehow keeps forgetting to reapply poisons
normal mist
He somehow keeps forgetting to reapply poisons
^^
thorn thorn
did u give him the clickable WA
Ok so here is the thing
I gave him a WA that puts giant text when poisons are missing
And he just moved it out of view
keen spruce
thorn thorn
neat remnant
Honestly that WA is pretty annoying, I’d move it off screen too
keen spruce
if it glow u click ez pz
thorn thorn
Knowing him he would just move it off screen the moment it started doing its thing
keen spruce
well not everyone can be saved
thorn thorn
Cuz it just said "NEED POISON" in the center of his screen
keen spruce
tell him to play fury warrior ig
thorn thorn
But he found it too distracting in combat
Even though I told him it goes away if you just apply poisons
keen spruce
see nuclear glow means you don't just skim over it
cuz it looks like a normal action bar
and it pops up when poisons have like 5m left or something
thorn thorn
well not everyone can be saved
I am starting to learn this
neat remnant
Make the icon so big it covers his entire screen. Flash bang him
thorn thorn
Our other new player said he needs a few hours to setup his keybinds
keen spruce
BUH
thorn thorn
Its gonna be a long next few weeks for me
keen spruce
i have like 99% the same keybinds
for every alt
stun go on r
or shift r
aoe shift c
thorn thorn
bruh i was trapped in +2 hell for the last like 2 weeks trying to help this guy learn
thorn thorn
Cuz he was legit dieing so much we couldnt go any higher
thorn thorn
Its better now, he did his first 7 last night
keen spruce
CDs and pots and stuff 12345
thorn thorn
But god the first 2 weeks were rough
We literally had like a 20% timerate in 2s cuz the people there are just
keen spruce
thorn thorn
Normally we would run as 5 but not all of us are on at the same time
exotic hearth
When do I use 2min trink if I have 4 set but no replacement trink yet? Do I do it on first and 3 and just hold for a min?
thorn thorn
He already knows about that video
real pike
can the 4pc bug make DM come off cooldown quicker or just KB
coral ibex
yes
thorn thorn
He ended with 38 after a very painful 7 HOA after our fury warrior decided to play hpal
half dawn
can the 4pc bug make DM come off cooldown quicker or just KB
wait is this why KB and DM are getting desynched 24/7 in the fatebound build
thorn thorn
It did not go well
marsh fjord
WE GAMING
thorn thorn
Uh
half dawn
raid palyers in m+ 💀
thorn thorn
2 people that are title capable, me who "casually" pushed rating, a returning player, and 2 new people
Fury is returning player
keen spruce
a couple of people need to get dragged through kciking and screaming
thorn thorn
We just play for funsies now
red schooner
a couple of people need to get dragged through kciking and screaming
thats me, I just about scrape 8 a week begrudgingly
keen spruce
but most like CE raiders are fine doin pretty big keys
well not big
but like
weekly max vaulters
at least
red schooner
10s are easy enough I just don't enjoy them
thorn thorn
10s are still free with this group so long as we dont grief
Unfortunately
Griefing is fun
red schooner
I'm going to keep gambit unplayed out of principle.
keen spruce
I'm going to keep gambit unplayed out of principle.
so based
thorn thorn
We plan to take him kicking and screaming to his first 10 soon
He did fine in the 7 and 8 we did
He still hasnt learned he cant tank check certain mechanics
He tried to eat the hammers on the second boss of priory thinking Feint would save him
thorn thorn
Did you play in S1
thorn thorn
He was standing on the lines from the warlocks expecting Feint to stop the oneshot
In GB
red schooner
whats wrong with gambit
I dunno, never played it.
half dawn
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965458290358235147/1408924298474815529/te...
???
whats the problem
thorn thorn
half dawn
this looks quite fine
thorn thorn
Very normal streets
red schooner
It just fell that gambit ended up not being played and I'm keeping it that way for my own personal amusement. I'll do HoA at some point probably.
half dawn
except every 30s
half dawn
nah
keen spruce
only in weird spots
half dawn
but it would teleport your screen
and get you killed
but you could always bug it
like fel rush still dcs you sometimes
weary spear
half dawn
thought the camera shake was the first problem xdddd
thorn thorn
Nah
half dawn
tbh ive not had taht bug but
thorn thorn
This is from someones hardmode taz
half dawn
LmaO
thorn thorn
They bricked it on that boss cuz the teleporters spawned ontop of eachother
half dawn
rekt
thorn thorn
And game freaked out and DC'd them
hoary scroll
hi is there any way to force the lucky coins with new 4p?
sudden hound
opener in the guide gets you a lucky coin guaranteed
royal lantern
by following the opener in the wowhead guide
neat plank
I'm going to keep gambit unplayed out of principle.
what's wrong with gambit? ;o
red schooner
what's wrong with gambit? ;o
Dunno, never been in it
red schooner
It could be a perfectly fine dungeon for all I know but I ain't about to find that out.
thorn thorn
Understandable
neat plank
😄
thorn thorn
Tazavesh is stinky
hoary scroll
by wowhead opener lucky guide coin
is there an explanation for that?
red schooner
Tazavesh is stinky
Streets is fine. Passable.
ancient pasture
streets is poopoo
winter vapor
hc saladaar, are we on CD with KB/DM for some seconds in burn phase when we come back to central platform?
red schooner
It also means if my guild tries to drag me in for hardmode deathless attempts I can go, 'soz guys, not ran gambit before, not going to go well'
red schooner
And I skip hardmode
real pike
man it's soooo tempting to slam KB when it comes up early
magic fossil
hey, anyone else has having this bug in DB where after first boss u go to church and inside ur camera keep changing from inside to outside like crazy?
static glacier
thoughts on dm targets on araz
magic fossil
wtf was even that
static glacier
first kb on echo?
keen spruce
is there an explanation for that?
idk man just do the opener correctly and it forces lucky coins
i think something to do with vanish
thorn thorn
Did you reroll or are you just not playing this season
keen spruce
hey, anyone else has having this bug in DB where after first boss u go to church...
bugs in DB?
impossible
ancient pasture
DB is one big bug
keen spruce
Did you reroll or are you just not playing this season
I haven't played since s1
dobby is a free elf
I golf and fly airplane
keen spruce
raid looks pretty slick
real pike
new vid has dropped???
thorn thorn
Yea
real pike
oh baby
thorn thorn
They likely do
ancient pasture
theyre nerf-bugs, ofc they fixed the double dipping buff-bug
haughty flicker
well they literally claimed to have fixed one and didnt so they know its happening
thorn thorn
But it might just be low on the priority list
marsh fjord
well they literally claimed to have fixed one and didnt so they know its happeni...
yeah but there is still so other shit going on
much*
haughty flicker
im sure they know about most of them
thorn thorn
Most assuredly
marsh fjord
bel
haughty flicker
obviously cant say how many or which ones they know or dont know about because its just my uncle who works at blizzard, not me
round vapor
!tricks
prisma monolithBOT
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
we need to close the discord
thorn thorn
Lets not contribute to the growing number of class discord tantrums
The ret one was already a very embarrassing display
ancient pasture
I call for a full strike
haughty flicker
if class discords were shut down over bugs every single one would disappear overnight
ancient pasture
shut the disc down
glass ice
I cant look at paladins the same way now
ancient pasture
never could tho
thorn thorn
My perception of rets has not gotten lower
thorn thorn
Because I am simply not surprised by it
thorn thorn
I cant look at paladins the same way now
Lets not fully generalize
Clarius did nothing wrong
They are just stuck with the ret mods
astral gorge
I need help, S2 Assa was soo much fun.. S3 : now we play without Kingsbane (in M+) AOE Dmg is super fine but Boss DMG is super fking low-.- what do i wrong?
pure single target Boss dps is around 2,3-2,7 mil
dense cedar
I need help, S2 Assa was soo much fun.. S3 : now we play without Kingsbane (in M...
pure ST is just weaker
good groups should pull stuff onto pure ST bosses to help wiht funnel
restive hawk
you mean funnel that is bugged and does nothing? i love that funnel
astral gorge
bugged?
haughty flicker
we still have other sources of funnel and its only caustic thats bugged
analog field
also s2 with KB was the same ST tbf
static glacier
ok yknow what
dense cedar
300+k than bleed
dslice?
thorn thorn
Cry probably
static glacier
idk man, im gonna just be at dummies for an hour to get used to sub i think
astral gorge
My Dslice is totally over the top.. i dont do 7 Mil Dps over all because dumb boss dps.. most of the time i am @ 5,5-6 mil over all
static glacier
My Dslice is totally over the top.. i dont do 7 Mil Dps over all because dumb bo...
it depends a lot on ur tank, i've done over 9m overall just bc tank pulled big
astral gorge
mhmm
dense cedar
you're actual damage in a dungeon won't be like dslice
fresh kelp
My Dslice is totally over the top.. i dont do 7 Mil Dps over all because dumb bo...
dslice should not be used for comparison to real damage at all, is just a gearing tool
dense cedar
too many factors
astral gorge
bad game designe xD other classes are so smooth and easy to play haha
astral gorge
^^
dense cedar
Route sim hoa 18
severe meadow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/268400938799071232/1398065787536801873/Vq...
Me with the homies