#assassination

1 messages · Page 2193 of 1

humble verge
#

damn

rotund marsh
#

maybe

humble verge
#

i didnt even get to finish building my computer

#

before raid

rotund marsh
#

must be rare to have that going

waxen oyster
#

pretty sure even good pugs have set times they do runs

spice surge
#

Yes

rotund marsh
#

but yeah this trinket is great, thought it was going to be super annoying but it isnt so bad to play around

frigid juniper
#

is there a weak aura that tells you which deathmark rotation you are at, i.e. the one where i should be popping vanish+ netherprism?

dense cedar
#

Remember when you could exsang your deathmark?

#

peak spec design

runic hinge
#

real

dense cedar
#

1 misinput just fucking ur entire burst

#

true gaming

nimble tartan
#

guys did u know u can skip the platforms on heroic nexus king

dense cedar
#

makes sense

nimble tartan
#

5 min boss fight phased his ass

analog egret
frigid juniper
#

thats one way to think about it

#

thanks

neat smelt
#

!gear

high ravine
#

anyone got any advise on why my single target in m+ is crap, i have am able to maintant 2.3m, is there a key element you think im missing

main bridge
#

it's normal. ask your tank to bring adds onto boss, or post a log and we can analyze it

lavish geyser
#

is it possible to cleave adds by hitting dimensius?

shy axle
#

is netherprism a pure st trinket or also a good pick for dungeons?

stable apex
#

can be good in dungeons

shy axle
#

cant really tell

pulsar coral
#

i have my plater set up the way i like it for splatter and deathmark, anyone have any idea how i can just take the npc name colors from another profile like jundies?

west crown
winter vapor
#

do we take cleave for nexus king Fatebound or pure ST?

stable apex
#

id say st

#

you either tunnel boss or titan

#

you dont cleave

shy axle
#

fb with splatter is recommended in the guide

main bridge
stable apex
#

cleaving on that boss is padding

frigid lagoon
lavish wing
#

DS on Araz is a fckin cursed sh*t

stable apex
#

go sub on araz

#

watch the 20m burst bomboclatt

lavish wing
#

i did

dense cedar
lavish wing
#

after like 3 pulls of losing mark 😄

unreal tide
#

IB so crappy, trolling no swapping to caustic but no need to do any more than that

frigid lagoon
#

ok im trolling again

#

i forgot to use amplifying poison xd

#

anyone got a wa that'll tell me if i dont have 4 poisons?

#

with dragon tempest

gleaming spire
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
waxen oyster
woven trout
#

!gear

lavish wing
raw marlin
#

!doIhaveaBigPenis

waxen oyster
#

You just send without mark on the towers

agile wedge
#

with 4p, can i still shiv 2 times for each kb? (fb)

agile wedge
#

so for the inbetween kb i only the last 8s

#

i see

woven trout
#

best active trinket for FB?

raw marlin
#

why do i have music in game but no ability effects sound lol

wide flare
#

Hey Guys! I sim droptimizer and I was wondering to see that a 701 belt from dungeons sims better than the delve belt. I'm absolutely confused.

floral olive
#

Anyone noticed your deathstalkers mark is not refreshing off the collectors on the forgeweaver fight?

lavish wing
raw marlin
hexed root
#

@balmy condor I appreciate you adding this spot the other day, idk about others but I use it a lot:

lavish wing
#

Audio, sry

raw marlin
spring oar
#

!tier

raw marlin
#

music all i can hear

prisma monolithBOT
#

Get your Season 2 Two Piece immediately, as it is a very powerful gain, stronger than both previous bonuses combined. This is true for both hero talents. The 4 piece is another big step up in dps for both hero talents on top of that.

sand dirge
#

!fok

prisma monolithBOT
#

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

  • Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
    Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
  • Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
    Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
  • Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

lavish wing
raw marlin
rocky zodiac
#

Macro Netherprism into DM or Vanish for HC?

trail hearth
#

!plater

prisma monolithBOT
lavish wing
nimble tartan
#

is there 701 pvp gear without upgrading

raw marlin
#

ty

gleaming spire
lavish wing
wide flare
frigid lagoon
raw marlin
lavish wing
raw marlin
wide flare
#

hmm, maybe the effect of the delve-belt is broken or ignored by sim?

humble verge
#

its not

drowsy lotus
#

what keys are bad for Assas? like streets anything else?

humble verge
#

but maybe it is

idle skiff
#

hi guys, i need some help, i have 4 pieces.. but im having trouble with mythic plus as assasination, at the beginning dont know how many garrotes and ruptures i should cast, when tank brings like 5 or 6 packs... i feel that i need to spam envenmo right away, but im trying to bleed a lot of mobs.. but when i want to start to envenom... mobs are halg live because other characters, as dks, and shamans, are already pumping.them... is there a specific rotation for when there are like 20 + mobs or so?.. im feeling that i shouldnt garrote and rupture as much... thank u in advance for your answer

dense cedar
#

Steets is fine for sin

brave comet
#

is there a way to make /rc ready checks work when the rclootcouncil addon is active

dense cedar
#

don't let people trick you

waxen oyster
drowsy lotus
#

you just dont have massive pulls, i do more as outlaw

waxen oyster
#

for conquest gear

dense cedar
#

if ur dps isn't depleting the key it don't rly matter

lofty nymph
#

How much crit should I run?

dense cedar
stable apex
lavish wing
#

stat weight sim ftw

dense cedar
#

stat weights will weigh you down and drag you to Hell

lofty nymph
dense cedar
#

idk how to explain that properly

#

hope this is correct command

#

!sims

prisma monolithBOT
dense cedar
#

nope

#

uhh

dense cedar
glacial lantern
#

I like this raid

leaden epoch
#

do we play kb build or not

#

in M+

normal mist
#

where

dense cedar
normal mist
#

no

dense cedar
#

ah

#

no

frozen iris
#

Blood build all the way

rugged sphinx
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
dense cedar
#

bleeds for the bleed god

leaden epoch
#

can someone send a string

#

for the good build

normal mist
leaden epoch
#

oh xd

dense cedar
#

wowhead dot gov

normal mist
#

keep caustic up

#

CT up 100%

#

pump

placid sparrow
#

I got the DH boots on my rogue and I feel like Shinra Kusakabe now

rotund marsh
#

can i bind cold blood into something?

normal mist
#

!macro

prisma monolithBOT
#

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

worldly dock
#

Guys how do we use Sim correctly now?

#

!sim

rotund marsh
#

ty

worldly dock
#

oops

normal mist
#

Like we've done before

worldly dock
#

5 targets 1 min Latest

normal mist
#

dungeonslice since at least Shadowlands

placid sparrow
#

I put on the gray sweatpants and a crop top and firlands dagger with these boots and I feel like a bad bitch (6’1” 260 lb bearded man)

normal mist
#

maybe even bfa

worldly dock
#

ok

normal temple
#

!poison

prisma monolithBOT
#

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

  • Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
    Non-Lethals:
  • Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

dense cedar
#

Dslice is the sim of champions dracthyr_nod

leaden epoch
#

is this the good talents

#

for m+

rotund marsh
#

damn, 2pc was a big upgrade for DS aoe, but wtf.. the st with fatebound got insane with 2pc

lavish geyser
#

on dimensius, do you wanna use fok or ´mutilate to generate combopoints for add phase?

rotund marsh
#

is there no good aoe build for fatebound? its pretty fun to play with

glossy grove
#

yo quick question, if got the netherprism of the 6th boss, it is bis no?

#

or did i bamboolzed my raid

#

it is listed as 2nd best in the trinket list

placid sparrow
rotund marsh
placid sparrow
placid sparrow
placid sparrow
sullen fjord
#

what are we doing with vanish in fatebound hero talent?

pulsar plank
#

on this build what do I use vanish for?

sullen fjord
#

^

placid sparrow
sullen fjord
#

for what

rotund marsh
#

the burst on FB is just insane, that KB window is huge

glossy grove
rotund marsh
dense cedar
placid sparrow
placid sparrow
rotund marsh
#

wish it gave something to feint, would be op though with how low the cd is

dense cedar
#

That my 1 toxic

#

Back to helpful

pulsar plank
placid sparrow
dense cedar
#

Legit no one reads the tooltips

placid sparrow
rotund oak
dense prairie
#

new rogue here, what does this represents on atrocityui. normally they are buffs that you shouldnt forget before fight but its not poison i assume

rotund oak
#

wowhead

coral ibex
#

which you can find out by opening your rogue weakaura

oblique sorrel
#

That’s the mark your tracking

coral ibex
#

and clicking on the icon

#

and that's not where pre fight buff icons show up in atrocityui

#

they're top left

dense prairie
#

no i ment like the poison or weapon bless on paladin

coral ibex
#

yea that icon shows up in the top left with atrocityui

#

for poisons

#

unless you moved it yourself idk

dense cedar
#

Feel like 30% of FB questions have their answer be "Double Jeopardy"

quaint dragon
#

guys how much increase is pooling for sanguine blades in m+?

whole light
#

!macro

prisma monolithBOT
#

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

rotund oak
#

or macro with shiv

dense prairie
dense cedar
#

Like the tier set for lucky coin part confused me at first

whole light
#

for some reason i had problems with kingsbane cold blood macro

rotund oak
dense cedar
#

But it's never about that

brazen ivy
#

In the 4pc, what gives us the "lucky fatebound coin" to trigger that effect?

coral ibex
#

what do you mean is archon updated

dense cedar
#

People never ask how it's doing that

coral ibex
#

its just a data scraper

#

ignore it

#

use the wowhead guide

dense prairie
#

okay

dense cedar
#

Mallow

#

Are you trolling me or

brazen ivy
#

no, is it just flipping the same thing 7 times right?

dense cedar
#

Yes

brazen ivy
#

So couldn't we get double reduction?

dense cedar
#

A bug causes that but no

#

Lucky coin is guaranteed with 2pc

ashen yacht
#

Hi all quick question, if I have shiv and darkest night up, should I use shiv before darkest night for the amp, or after to proc a stack of deathstalkers mark?

brazen ivy
#

ok thanks man

hearty coral
#

Guys what are the main diference between deathstalker and fatebound for m+? Thanks

coral ibex
subtle tundra
#

what a vault

feral wasp
#

do we use tea on shiv with fb aswell?

subtle tundra
#

what a raid

#

yes r2 mana oil suck my cock

brazen ivy
#

bro those things aren't cheap

coral ibex
subtle tundra
#

FALSE

coral ibex
#

broke is a mindset

subtle tundra
#

it is

coral ibex
#

you dont have a rich man's mindset

brazen ivy
#

he's just frugal guys

coral ibex
#

you have a poor mindset

#

that's why you use r2 mana oil

subtle tundra
#

when you finish 20th it doesnt matter

brazen ivy
#

🌾

coral ibex
#

a rich man buys 200 r3 mana oil

#

a poor man buy 2 r2's before raid and doesn't refresh

brazen ivy
#

sometimes i dont even hit the cauldron i got so much gold

#

can't be arsed to move them onto my bars

subtle tundra
#

wish i was you bro

#

i have small cock

brazen ivy
#

damn that sucks

dense cedar
zinc vale
#

when do we change 701 belt ?

#

anyone already sim it ?

subtle tundra
#

i know when i change my belt

candid nacelle
#

what command for bis?

subtle tundra
#

we dont do that here

runic hinge
#

!bis

prisma monolithBOT
#

BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. On top of this, all stats being good on Assassination means there are currently over 500 "BiS" combinations that are within margin of error. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.

Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS from world content is especially not helpful, and we do not maintain any lists of these types. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. Use Top Gear/Droptimizer to compare against your character.

subtle tundra
#

FUCK YOU

runic hinge
#

Okay sorry

#

Love you

rugged sphinx
#

!macro

prisma monolithBOT
#

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

candid nacelle
#

there was a command to see which drop where

dense cedar
subtle tundra
raw marlin
#

can you put embellishment on neck?

subtle tundra
#

yes

raw marlin
#

sweet dogg

#

crafting me a new dog collar then

coral ibex
#

!loot

subtle tundra
runic hinge
#

Varas are you raiding this tier or just 4fun

subtle tundra
#

im in a split for help

#

maybe rogue becomes mega op in 2 weeks for last boss

#

and i get called in

#

thats the only chance i have at any mythic prog

frozen bay
#

best second spark craft?

real pike
#

Fatebound or Deathstalker on nexus king without 4pc? 🤔

coral ibex
#

fatebound

real pike
#

ty

gleaming geyser
#

you can use the free runed crest from the raid questline

midnight scroll
#

quick question, dm will only be synced with my kb when i have 4pc?

worldly dock
#

!poison

prisma monolithBOT
#

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

  • Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
    Non-Lethals:
  • Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

gleaming geyser
#

KB is always synced with DM either way

midnight scroll
gleaming geyser
#

you're hacking

midnight scroll
#

on fatebound i mean

dense cedar
placid sparrow
midnight scroll
#

sorry

leaden epoch
#

Damn our 2P is sooo big dmg increase

#

I had no sets

placid sparrow
#

Good call on blizz for the tier sets to be her tree rather than a general set , I was sceptical when it was first it announced that it would be a big tuning issue

leaden epoch
#

Is our 2 piece so good btw ?

#

Also good for st right

tawdry forum
#

Someone got the macro for vanish with the netherprism?

ornate tundra
waxen oyster
#

Fix your mog

ornate tundra
#

thx

waxen oyster
#

Bro posted a full df s1 ss

ornate tundra
#

thats the last time i played

#

too much stuff to do

craggy basin
#

thoughts on using the free quest from story on bracers and maxing out myth lilly, instead of crafting myth bracers this week?

broken halo
#

Has anyone got any tips for HC soulbinder? On adds do you just rupture and caustic splatter? They're dying quite quick

craggy basin
#

crest*

waxen oyster
craggy basin
#

i figured i just like to double check lol

waxen oyster
#

bracer is like, your second least impactful slot.

#

After offhand

craggy basin
#

thanks for the input

waxen oyster
#

but yeah past week 1 good luck getting good spatter value

broken halo
#

Ok, but in theory, is that the play? I'm fairly new to specc

waxen oyster
#

i mean soulbinder is just a cleave adds with spatter boss

#

if your group trolls and doesnt break them out correctly you'll lose damage

frigid lagoon
#

does anyone have a weak aura they can send to me that shows 0/2 lethal poisons etc

tranquil lynx
#

what embelishment on crafted 720 wrist?

frigid lagoon
brave comet
#

i dont like how my tier set is an active and not a passive

rare jackal
#

does caustic spatter bug out randomly?

brave comet
#

and it revolves around shiv, and that it consumes a deathmark stack

torn dome
#

!gear

brave comet
#

i'm not sure sometimes darkest night is ready when i need to shiv

#

and im like do i shiv or do i not

waxen oyster
#

Does it just munch the DN buff

#

if you shiv on it

ancient pasture
#

how do i sim which crafted piece is better? i dont see a way to add embellishements in raidbots

junior olive
#

!fuq

brave comet
nimble tartan
#

guys whoever did that gear image shoutout to you fr u ateeee

#

omg it was fuu

#

legend

brave comet
#

i might just make a crit mast neck tbh

mint urchin
next cape
#

How tf do I macro halls trinket with deathmark

#

My macro is dumb and not working

waxen oyster
#

you dont

mint urchin
#

You don't

next cape
#

Frick

mint urchin
#

It has a cast time

coral ibex
#

you cant macro channels into instant casts

next cape
#

Noted ty

leaden epoch
#

When do we shiv always with 2 Stacks or

brave comet
ancient pasture
#

idk if this is allowed here, but sims say i should craft cloves with writhing on it, but is that really the best here? what would you craft

mint urchin
#

The value of the DS tier is the increased shiv duration which is a dmg bonus and the improved tree dmg buff, the consuming mark stack is a small portion

#

It's saying gloves because your gloves are crap

vagrant tendon
#

and that

ancient pasture
#

Yeah i figured, but would it be a bad idea to craft gloves in case i need to break set for myth gloves in the future, or would you craft gloves?

mint urchin
#

Yes, when you can farm m+ hero gloves relatively.easily

#

It's a waste

balmy condor
#

You wouldn’t craft gloves because it’s a bad place to craft

#

Gloves are high stat slots

brave comet
#

i would craft necks

mint urchin
#

If only Whispyr had a crafting suggestion section 🙁

balmy condor
#

True

brave comet
#

i wish he just fed me my cereal

#

lifting my arm from the bowl is so much work

mint urchin
#

He already has people just need to learn to chew

ancient pasture
#

I read the wowhead which just says wrist, which is why im asking

humble verge
magic horizon
#

I wonder how much the of a dps increase it is from 2 piece to 4 piece. Prayge I get it tonight.

mental thistle
#

I saw some logs of some rogues with 1m deathmark, how does this bug work?

mint urchin
magic horizon
#

With FB?

humble verge
#

yes

#

there was a list

#

somewhere

vague dragon
#

yo is that the right simulation for M+ or using patchwerk ?

humble verge
#

dungeon slice

mint urchin
shy axle
#

what do you do woth 4p ds bonus when you got dn on your next env and shiv comes off cd? use it and skip that 1 stack usage for the dn buff?

magic horizon
#

Another question, Since we are using cold blood again, when do you recast it during a fight? When you vanish again?

lethal arrow
#

Wrists or belt are both acceptable as long as u have myth track wrists

coral ibex
ancient pasture
lethal arrow
#

Then craft wrist

ancient pasture
#

The image had my gear

magic horizon
coral ibex
#

no

#

if you have 2 shivs then yea

#

otherwise you always shiv the end of kb

plain hare
#

do we have any changes rotationnaly on bleed build with our tier set ?

thick juniper
#

is crafting the wrist worth it? or upgrading big stat pieces first?

magic horizon
balmy condor
thick juniper
#

true, ty

mint urchin
mental thistle
#

I saw some logs of some rogues with 1m deathmark, how does this bug work?

shy axle
#

whats the vanish usage with 4p fatebound? 3 min together with prism?

thick juniper
#

!up

shy axle
#

@mental thistle fixed afaik

quartz kelp
#

its not fixed

junior olive
#

do you have to target who has Deathstalker's mark to consume from the tier bonus?

quartz kelp
#

i had it today

balmy condor
# mint urchin I don't know how you do this all day my guy lmao

You get numb after a while so it doesn’t feel as bad, but sometimes there’s like that one REALLY stupid question that rips all of the numbness off like a wax strip and makes you question how people are able to put their socks on in the morning without an instruction manual

runic hinge
#

Sock instruction manual for the pookies when

balmy condor
thorn thorn
hazy horizon
rugged sphinx
#

with 4pc on ST - are we wanting to use tea on both shivs?

mental thistle
coral ibex
#

it explains it

mental thistle
#

he cancel the lucky coin aura, or something like that ?

royal lantern
balmy condor
coral ibex
#

still happens

balmy condor
coral ibex
#

happened all night to me

earnest pilot
#

anyone know if fatebound 4pc bug is fixed? i was crying last night on heroic reclear LMAO i kept getting 2min cds

coral ibex
#

thank you blizzard very cool

earnest pilot
#

i wasnt getting the bug at all but after their "fix" with the 1min bug im getting it a lot more now

balmy condor
#

That’s pure coincidence

earnest pilot
#

unlucky ig

#

i was getting it every other boss it was so annoying tbh

oblique flume
#

maybe this question was asked before sorry about that, but with 4p should we wait that the DM to be aligned again and delay the shiv+kb ?

humble verge
#

basically almost all pre-myth bis

#

just need prio ring

#

and my guild still holding me back besad

balmy condor
vague dragon
#

do i can refreshing improved garrote with improved garrote during deathmark ?

humble verge
#

yes, i do it for 3cp

#

its free

#

but

#

its more of a habit

oblique flume
#

ok ty

balmy condor
minor dagger
#

!gear

magic horizon
scenic plank
#

!plater

prisma monolithBOT
stable apex
#

!gear

vague dragon
real pike
#

caustic on first boss mythic?

coral ibex
#

no

#

there are no adds

#

well

#

there are no adds on the boss

#

and you should just run to the boss

real pike
#

thought they both got gripped in together

#

but fair

#

I just ignore and play fall guys?

#

absolutely love that

elfin fossil
#

Is there a list which talents you play on which boss in Omegalul-raid?

coral ibex
#

that's what i did and the adds died fine

real pike
elfin fossil
#

Thank you kind sir

real pike
#

but think it's geared towards heroic/what we knew on release

magic horizon
#

Dumb question but when casting shiv do I always want to cast the marco'd shiv with tea?

unkempt pilot
#

on pull, the Netherprism isn't used right ?

#

we use it at the second DM ?

quaint dragon
#

how good are the mythic boots for cloak?

coral ibex
#

bis

real pike
#

no you do use it, but I can see why you might think that you don't 👀

mint urchin
balmy condor
warm vortex
#

For fatebound, do we use vanish with every other deathmark

balmy condor
#

Yes

warm vortex
#

k thanks whispy love you

loud light
#

I feel like they could just make the 4pc change the CDs passively and not tie it to lucky coin

#

and we'd be just fine

warm vortex
#

????

#

It does though

unkempt pilot
warm vortex
#

You can literally gaurantee 7

loud light
grave osprey
#

!stats

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
  • Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
proper pendant
#

hekili OP

raven sonnet
#

!macro

prisma monolithBOT
#

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

vague dragon
grave osprey
knotty vapor
#

how often can we expect to have a lucky fatebound coin? Will we generally get one every pull?

loud light
#

With new tier set you get it during your opener guaranteed if you press your buttons in the right order

proper pendant
#

@grave osprey unironically its my best WA and its not even a WA

knotty vapor
#

oh I see, neat

proper pendant
#

i use nothing else

normal mist
#

👍

rotund jungle
#

Hey peepz 🙂 i got a question

#

i got araz trinket and netherprism

#

do i use them both in m+

royal lantern
#

would use ritual forge

rotund jungle
#

and start with araz on first pull

royal lantern
#

nah, why would you do that

#

assa in m+ is 2min for big burst and then great consistent dmg outside of it

rotund jungle
#

i got seafrium too

royal lantern
#

no real use for 2x on use really tbh

#

unless there is some giga cooked tech i dont know about

haughty flicker
#

the value of double on use in keys is already contested for sub who can actually alternate them, no reason to do that on assa when you can just use forge every deathmark

rotund jungle
#

so in m+ with deathstalker just use seaforium and araz

haughty flicker
#

or antenna if you get it

#

but yeah basically

rotund jungle
#

ye

#

and with fatebound i will use netherprism

#

as 3 min trinket

haughty flicker
#

yup

rotund jungle
#

so on pull

#

next DM no trinket

#

third netherprim

haughty flicker
#

yeah and on pull you're gonna get like a single stack so it might as well not exist

clever sparrow
#

question about raid build

#

i got 4 set now and from now on my DM wont line up with vanish

#

what should i do?

haughty flicker
#

vanish just becomes a 3m cd

#

so you'll use it every other deathmark

clever sparrow
haughty flicker
#

no you use it with deathmark

#

use on pull, wont be up for 1:30 dm, use at 3m with deathmark

#

and so on

#

you just hold it until deathmark is up again

gentle finch
#

guys I have a question
been playing Fatebound tonight in raid and already have 4 set
i've noticed that sometimes, especially during the first opener, despite me pressing KB and Cold blood at the same time, there's a 15sec cooldown difference between both even though everything should be fine, including the lucky coin proc
any idea of what is wrong?

vestal granite
#

sounds like you didnt get the lucky coin proc

gentle finch
#

could it be I did something wrong during the opener?

#

i mean im a bit tired but maybe i didnt notice

north eagle
#

Hi guys, would you please remind me why we lineup vanish with DM? (Yes I watched the 3.5h rogue guide from Whyspir, just forgot)

spice surge
#

Double jeopardy

#

From fatebound

humble verge
#

im wondering

north eagle
#

Yes... right. Thank you 🙂

humble verge
#

are the sims for the delve belt broken or?

strange onyx
#

why does my KB sometimes have 1 min cd even with tier equipped?

#

anyone else have this bug

#

fixes itself after first use in combat

golden loom
#

what

#

thats not what the tier does

#

u have to have the capstone

knotty vapor
#

re-read it

strange onyx
#

oh

golden loom
#

to have the cdr

strange onyx
#

i am bozo

#

x)

clever sparrow
agile locust
#

What are people playing on Forgeweaver? FB or DS?

north eagle
vague dragon
#

when i using mana oil and ironclaw enchant ?

knotty vapor
#

is it normal to have your deathmark and kingsbane desynced from each other by like 10 seconds later into the fight?

humble verge
#

tho i think

knotty vapor
#

like how bad am I for being in that situation often

humble verge
#

whispyr talked about using both oil and whetstone?

knotty vapor
#

kk

humble verge
#

youre proccing both

#

so youre timings gets weird

knotty vapor
#

yeah it feels that way

real pike
#

is it true that killing soulbinder unlocks loom loot in vault?

tall jay
#

when do we stop using the heroic Jasper ring?

real pike
#

when something else sims better

haughty flicker
real pike
#

that is rather huge

haughty flicker
#

Insanely huge for people who just pug first two mythic

real pike
#

manifesting antenna in my vault next week

novel swallow
#

so on fatebound with netherprism u get no on-use value from it in opener since u have no stacks?

haughty flicker
#

Pretty much

#

But your 3m burst goes huge

novel swallow
#

ye

knotty vapor
#

do you pop netherprism even without 18 stacks?

#

or should you have 18 by 3min?

winged sun
knotty vapor
#

I mean if you had like 13 or something at 3 mins

winged sun
#

u can press it idk, u do press it eitherway at 3 mins

knotty vapor
#

thats why I asked if you should have 18 by 3 ins

winged sun
#

3 min mark is what matters the most

knotty vapor
#

kk

winged sun
#

10 stacks 20 stacks 2000 stacks

#

3 min

knotty vapor
#

so then the answer is just yes

winged sun
#

ye

haughty flicker
#

Yes

nova kelp
#

Yes

haughty flicker
#

You'll basically always have 18 stacks at 3m anyway unless you go afk or something

#

So put stacks out of your pretty little mind

knotty vapor
#

I have the thing but I really like lily

haughty flicker
nova kelp
#

I mean lily isn't BAD if you wanna use it. Is it as good as prism? No but it's not bad

knotty vapor
#

its just a satisfying trinket, lines up perfectly with the 1.5 min window

#

and me like mastery on use

#

big number

haughty flicker
#

Prism barely sims better for me anyway but both are also champ track so it's a bit fucked either way

#

No on use luck so far this tier

gray briar
#

could it be, that the S2 Set bonis are OP now?

nova kelp
#

Prism is giga for certain fight spots. Like the platforms on the last 2 bosses

knotty vapor
#

i hate it wen my bonis is op

gray briar
#

i do 4-5kk DPS in m+ with S2 gear (664gs + 4pc set boni from S2)

#

i could change to S3 bonis now, but im unsure to do so^^

#

because of trhis insane dmg (im normaly not taht good 😄 :D)

knotty vapor
#

the s3 set bonuses are very very good

#

and you're losing out on a fuckload of stats

#

no chance s2 4pc beats s3 4pc

vague dragon
#

in M+ i using shiv with darkest night its okay to do it right ?

mossy sundial
#

Otherwise ur ripping max stack plat 1 and having around 12 for dmg amp

nova kelp
mossy sundial
#

Also valid

#

That was my approach

#

Just something I noticed while doing it

nova kelp
#

Also you just annihilate the add phase with spatter

haughty flicker
#

Holding prism that long for amp would likely just make it worse than a different on use

#

Maybe not though I just say shit

nova kelp
#

Its perfect timing.
Free real estate

haughty flicker
#

Yeah add phase lines up great

#

Same with platforms on salad bar

mossy sundial
#

Yea its definitely good, we just blitz platforms too fast to restack before getting to p3

#

Gonna test both next week see what happens

nova kelp
#

Yeah there's a world where your group just evaporates the platform I guess. In which case MAYBE

sweet delta
#

In mythic+ aoe do i need to apply garrote and rupture to every target or just up to 5 for max scent of blood

nova kelp
#

At this stage I haven't run into the issue of my guild Penn and tellering the platform that fast though

real pike
#

other rogue has heroic lily and won heroic netherprism in raid today, I have still House of Cards from last season

#

feels baaaaaaaaaad man

knotty vapor
#

oof

#

I'm still using adventurer track lily lmfao

#

sims tell me to

real pike
#

I'm just saving all my roll luck for mythic drops

#

that's how it works right??

nova kelp
#

I still don't agree with it but like it can happen if someone is a long time guildy etc

flint swallow
#

Yo guys can someone give me some types on asssination rotation please

nova kelp
#

I'm a bit different I guess. I'd have probably traded it to you

mossy sundial
#

Which fwiw prism seems to stack at about 6 stacks a minute so its perfect for 3 minute vanish

real pike
#

ye I definitely would have traded it but he's within his rights to keep it if it's an upgrade

flint swallow
#

Ahhahahah

stray panther
#

Hi,

been playing outlaw for a while, switching to sin very soon jus getting some gears ...

trying to look for a guide regarding the thistle tea, and energy pooling, specifically on raiding.

do we not go below 30 energy so we save the thistle tea before KB? or this is not the case anymore and we can consume all thistle teas.

flint swallow
#

No in pve

real pike
#

just means I'll have the same approach in mythic ahah

grim jay
nova kelp
#

Macro your tea to shiv and just let it go

#

Its just a passive talent

grim jay
real pike
#

I'm a manual tea enjoyer and I'll never change

nova kelp
#

I think TECHNICALLY as FB you can just like let tea go completely passive tbh

knotty vapor
#

am I crazy for not macroing it to shiv? I feel like I get a lot more longevity out of my energy pool if I save it for the restoration rather than the mastery boost

nova kelp
#

But I'm unsure. Total feelycraft

real pike
knotty vapor
#

I feel energy starved a lot

#

and it helps so much

real pike
#

sending all of them on the last 10% mashing my buttons feels soooo good

small cairn
#

How fb in m+?

nova kelp
#

As FB I have a suspicion that completely passive tea is at least not negative value

nova kelp
mossy sundial
#

Mastery in cds historically wins iirc

grim jay
weak prism
#

Do you guys know how this guy has 30s KB? Is it a bug, or am i missing something

grim jay
#

Else the macro wouldnt be there

real pike
stray panther
#

but what do you do before KB cd gets up, do we save energies and not cast any attacks

flint swallow
#

Shiv should be used after casting Kingsbane?

#

Or before?

wary light
#

Anyone had DM bug happen TWICE?

Just did heroic dimensius and I used DM at like 8secs and also a 60 secs

knotty vapor
#

nefpre

real pike
#

wait

mossy sundial
real pike
#

other way round

#

wait

#

no

mossy sundial
#

Full tea value and macro

real pike
#

I'm just wrong

mossy sundial
#

Ez

knotty vapor
#

pretty sure u alway shiv before kb

real pike
#

ye I'm brain fried

flint swallow
weak prism
#

DM shiv KB on DS
Shiv DM KB on FB

real pike
#

generally yes unless you're doing m+ or an add heavy fight

real pike
#

wait no I was right

#

I should sleep

nova kelp
#

Probably

knotty vapor
#

no u always shiv before kb

#

in both specs

nova kelp
#

Never ignore your sleep

#

Take care of yourself king

real pike
red schooner
#

Demon hunters, fun fight. Bleed build in raid baybee

real pike
#

we get them with the technicalities

nova kelp
real pike
mossy sundial
#

Any of yall figured out the best targets in the dh fights to make mark swapping not giga aids

red schooner
real pike
#

might be my most hated fight ever omegalul

red schooner
#

did you see a garf on my post?

nova kelp
real pike
#

is there a specific one to keep as main target? that jumps about less than the others?

half dawn
haughty flicker
red schooner
flint swallow
#

Normally i open Mutilate, rupture deathmark shiv, tea kingsbane cold blood evenon

half dawn
#

why is the hitbox of Dementor so small

#

boss is the size of fucking

knotty vapor
#

no opener should start with mutilate

half dawn
#

WTC

flint swallow
knotty vapor
#

it's either garrote or ambush

flint swallow
knotty vapor
#

depending on your spec

flint swallow
#

Sorry

clever sparrow
#

as a player without any huge mythic progress what type of guild should i look foor?

flint swallow
#

I open with garrote first after i cast mutilate to generate cp

nova kelp
#

Bro yo fucking actually
Why do all the bosses in the raid have such fucking offensively small hit boxes

real pike
knotty vapor
#

dimensius hitbox is very annoyingly small in p1

#

the fucking massive smash knocking you out of melee unless you get right near the edge of it

#

i hate it so much

clever sparrow
real pike
knotty vapor
#

massive steel nuts on anyone who does that lmao

half dawn
#

this is so fucking annoying

flint swallow
#

What should i cast when i vanish?

half dawn
#

how is the hitbox taht small tho

haughty flicker
#

just insta shadowstep and pray you dont land on the tank

half dawn
#

looks bugged

warm vortex
#

Just did a cursed run

#

full guild group

half dawn
#

fucking dementor

knotty vapor
#

that entire platform minus the very back should be in melee range

mossy sundial
warm vortex
#

Feral has green gear
and sp has like, 2000+ ms

#

This was a timed 10 btw

#

XD

half dawn
#

ez

#

only 7m on +10 smh

red schooner
nova kelp
# warm vortex

This offends me. Honestly feral can fucking pump in keys

clever sparrow
flint swallow
#

Jesus fuck this chat

real pike
warm vortex
real pike
haughty flicker
#

jesus doesnt fuck chats

warm vortex
#

XD

red schooner
clever sparrow
#

thanks

acoustic roost
haughty flicker
half dawn
haughty flicker
#

rogues are in short supply so a lot of them just say fuck it

#

thats how i got into my first guild

clever sparrow
warm vortex
#

But tbh

main bridge
#

EU has top guilds too

warm vortex
#

Minus the hearler who was silent for most of it sweating his ass off

clever sparrow
#

my guild rn is too bad

warm vortex
#

Was the most fun key i've done this expac tbh

clever sparrow
#

so i cant really progress the raid

warm vortex
#

cause we were just dicking around

frozen iris
#

With Indiscriminate Carnage. Since its smart. Do you guys let ruptures and garrotes fly on main target or are people tab targeting still with ID in m+

real pike
#

nm logs are not that good

red schooner
clever sparrow
haughty flicker
#

normal logs will not help

red schooner
#

so may be worht looking there

real pike
#

you can pug heroic

clever sparrow
half dawn
#

to really spread the shit

haughty flicker
#

but you can easily get mid to high 90 parses even in pugs

#

for heroic

red schooner
clever sparrow
haughty flicker
#

then apply to shit

half dawn
#

NM/HC logs is legit all dependant on your group

haughty flicker
#

and get into some shitter mythic guild

#

and work your way up

half dawn
#

if you ahve fast kill time u get more

real pike
#

apply to <Smile> Stormrage

#

not joking

#

look them up on raider io

half dawn
#

pad logs by joining some giga group

real pike
#

they have no rogue

clever sparrow
#

last season i have 81 on first boss mythic and 50 on 2nd

real pike
#

and take any trial

#

if you're good you'll raid

clever sparrow
#

HMMM

frozen iris
half dawn
#

idk

#

i think so

#

to use subter and ic time

real pike
half dawn
#

not to waste it

real pike
#

but I'm lazy and never switch

#

even in massive pulls

#

5 scent of blood stacks and off we go

half dawn
#

mouseover on mellee

#

i cannot cast that

#

target is out of range

#

zzzzz

real pike
#

?

frozen iris
#

I have never been able to use Mouseover macros well.

half dawn
#

its because the range is so small you need to be inside mobs

#

and if tanks is moving them

#

GG

acoustic roost
#

Yeah staying on one target and gar gar rup rup gar gar CT is good enough tbh

midnight scroll
#

!gear

nova kelp
#

Need to kick something? Kick the target you're on. If it wasn't casting anything just tell everyone your kick was stolen.

#

Easy

#

For legal reasons. I am of course kidding

#

Please kick casts.

#

Gives me more excuses to not.

real pike
#

if blizzard want me to kick, they should make it give energy

astral plover
#

With antenna, do we go out of our way to get them. Or do we just wait for it to come to us?

inner crypt
frozen iris
#

With Whispers plater profile. Where does the pandemics come from.

nova kelp
#

If you CAN do anything to improve your chances of an antenna you probably should

Outside of like sleeping with your gm or some insane shit

hearty seal
frozen iris
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
nova kelp
#

Guaranteed to work

hearty seal
haughty flicker
#

give us acro back for kicks

#

well give us acro back period but at least for kick range

nova kelp
#

Maaaaate I would do unspeakable things for acro

hearty seal
#

ngl I have never played with DF acrobatic strikes
and I still miss them

storm forum
#

i think i'd still be playing rogue if they never gave us acro

#

or if we still had acro

desert crest
#

true losing it was the worst

static glen
#

what delve belt power do we use in aoe and st?

nova kelp
#

Mines set to crit. And it doesn't change

#

Not coz it shouldn't

#

Coz I'm lazy

old terrace
#

what are we supposed to craft this week?

runic hinge
#

@haughty flicker GlorpSoCute

runic hinge
haughty flicker
runic hinge
#

The shadow experiment is over

nova kelp
#

You

#

Fucking

#

Traitorous

abstract steppe
idle radish
#

just heard some horrifying news about this discord

#

you guys didnt even want to help a new assa player?

#

smh

old terrace
#

Im ew and they;ve helped me a ton

#

new

idle radish
#

sure man

sharp lily
real pike
raw marlin
#

you cant put 2nd embellishment on neck right to buff the weapon one?

hasty acorn
#

!macro

prisma monolithBOT
#

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

nova kelp
#

Jesus fucker? I'd fuck Jesus

haughty flicker
#

i dont think you can put writhing band on a neck no

nova kelp
#

No

real pike
#

I may have gotten slightly confused with phrasings

haughty flicker
#

could do double lens but thats more of a sub thing

old terrace
#

My cousin's name is Jesus, but I wouldn't fuck him

nova kelp
#

How the fuck

inner crypt
old terrace
#

whta piece of gear are we crafting this week?

real pike
#

I think

#

but maybe worth simming jewellery if you've been very unlucky with it

nova kelp
real pike
nova kelp
#

This early in the season I would not be remotely worried about a 90

#

Some peeps have WILD gear

real pike
#

I'm getting gapped by the rogue in my guild, but he has 10 ilvl on me and 4pc and 6/6'd all his heroic gear

#

my time will come

nova kelp
#

Item disparity be real this early on

real pike
#

ye even at the same ilvl

#

and we care more about secondary stat distribution than before too

nova kelp
#

I missed out on some shunter boots last night. IMMEDIATELY felt the results

real pike
#

there is a serious lack of crit heavy gear

haughty flicker
#

with fatebound 4p you only shiv the back half of kingsbane outside dm

#

otherwise you wont have 2 shivs for dm, which ended up happening to you

real pike
#

@nova kelp we look silly now

#

he should have been worried

haughty flicker
#

you also should be using prism as a 3m cd

#

so use it on your 3m dm instead of every dm

hexed root
#

if sin rogue was a ranged class, what would we be? trying to figure out an alt

inner crypt
nova kelp
real pike
#

like at the circus

nova kelp
#

Nahhhhh

haughty flicker
#

you used vanish at your 2m kingsbane, save that for your 3m deathmark

#

treat vanish as a 3m cd just like prism

clever sparrow
#

should i play around sanguine blades in single target with bleed build?

hexed root
real pike
nova kelp
#

If sin was ranged
There's these rat guys in fantasy Warhammer. Poison wind globadiers

#

That's sin

haughty flicker
#

you also started getting sloppy with your burst later in the fight, do it the way you did in opener every time

hexed root
real pike
#

not sure that's duh

static glen
#

does deathmark unstealth u

real pike
#

but uh none of the mreally

haughty flicker
#

yes deathmark is an attack

#

so it'll unstealth you

hexed root
#

i say duh because I said I was trying to figure out an alt

real pike
#

hunter or warlock I guess

radiant otter
# inner crypt Guys, can u read me someone pls

on a 3:46 kill you could save prism and pot for zoldycks. if you're talking about your ilevel parse, there's only 143 logs by 703-705 rogues, which is such a small sample they could just be critting more than you

nova kelp
#

Please don't stealth into deathmark though

#

That's sacrilege

old ridge
#

is lily trinket for M+ or Raid?

haughty flicker
#

yes

humble verge
nova kelp
humble verge
#

you would rather have forge or prism for m+

#

but

#

if you dont have either, lily does still work fine

nova kelp
#

Lily is good

old ridge
#

have been unlucky with drops and lily is all ive gotten

nova kelp
#

It doesn't give you that fucking Hulk smash mode that prism does though

real pike
humble verge
#

prism gives u hulk smash?

#

wass

humble verge
nova kelp
#

Bruv

humble verge
#

like

#

i only got myth antenna

nova kelp
#

You have 18 stacks hop over to a nexus king platform

#

Ho boy

humble verge
#

just because im a hardcore raider

humble verge
#

you can also stack it for almost all bosses tho

hearty seal
nova kelp
#

You're about to take everything on that platform to the casting couch

humble verge
#

as long as you just keep yourself in combat

#

just like do

#

autoattack damage on the trash mobs

#

anyway

#

time to deconstruct my pc

#

so i can get my power supply out

desert vault
#

for M+ just make sure you have 2 shivs for DM and then outside of that just shiv on CD?

humble verge
#

yes

real pike
#

I would absolutely love a lily

nova kelp
#

Like in m+ you can 1000% shiv for the vibes

#

If it's a myth hoc it's not bad at least

#

Like could be worse

real pike
#

it is but I just got 4 set

nova kelp
#

I feel for you though

real pike
#

so I need to farm a lily before Sunday now

coral ibex
#

become aldani-pilled

#

asap

old terrace
#

lets goooooooo I'm getting better finally

pine cave
#

!wa