#assassination
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maybe
must be rare to have that going
pretty sure even good pugs have set times they do runs
Yes
but yeah this trinket is great, thought it was going to be super annoying but it isnt so bad to play around
is there a weak aura that tells you which deathmark rotation you are at, i.e. the one where i should be popping vanish+ netherprism?
guys did u know u can skip the platforms on heroic nexus king
makes sense
5 min boss fight phased his ass
uh, its the one where Vanish is off cooldown?
!gear
anyone got any advise on why my single target in m+ is crap, i have am able to maintant 2.3m, is there a key element you think im missing
it's normal. ask your tank to bring adds onto boss, or post a log and we can analyze it
is it possible to cleave adds by hitting dimensius?
is netherprism a pure st trinket or also a good pick for dungeons?
can be good in dungeons
cant really tell
i have my plater set up the way i like it for splatter and deathmark, anyone have any idea how i can just take the npc name colors from another profile like jundies?
Its stats. Stats apply everywhere
do we take cleave for nexus king Fatebound or pure ST?
fb with splatter is recommended in the guide
Fatebound on all raid bosses except for soulbinder, araz, and demon hunters. It’s still semi-playable on araz if you’re bad at the mark management, but on deathstalker you just hold vanish for the damage amp and it’s fine
from the pins
cleaving on that boss is padding
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/J89phd32TbMPX6nc?fight=35&type=damage-done&source=512 is my envenom crit% meant to be that low?
DS on Araz is a fckin cursed sh*t
i did
fight was barely more than 2 minutes long, stuffs gonna be wacky
after like 3 pulls of losing mark 😄
IB so crappy, trolling no swapping to caustic but no need to do any more than that
ok im trolling again
i forgot to use amplifying poison xd
anyone got a wa that'll tell me if i dont have 4 poisons?
with dragon tempest
!wa
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
You just hold vanish for when his amp starts
!gear
i did but what about echo or amplifiers...
!doIhaveaBigPenis
You just send without mark on the towers
with 4p, can i still shiv 2 times for each kb? (fb)
no
best active trinket for FB?
why do i have music in game but no ability effects sound lol
Hey Guys! I sim droptimizer and I was wondering to see that a 701 belt from dungeons sims better than the delve belt. I'm absolutely confused.
Anyone noticed your deathstalkers mark is not refreshing off the collectors on the forgeweaver fight?
different channels
and how do i change that
@balmy condor I appreciate you adding this spot the other day, idk about others but I use it a lot:
yh bro my effects are at 80%
!tier
music all i can hear
Get your Season 2 Two Piece immediately, as it is a very powerful gain, stronger than both previous bonuses combined. This is true for both hero talents. The 4 piece is another big step up in dps for both hero talents on top of that.
!fok
Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:
- Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up: - Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up: - Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization
The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements
scroll down a bit
to what?
Macro Netherprism into DM or Vanish for HC?
!plater
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
enable Sound Effect
is there 701 pvp gear without upgrading
Ctrl + s
Ctrl + m
no idea
does anybody got the same results?
i use the whispyr one but it only tells you if you have any poisons not all 4
can you fix my trackmania sound now lol
mine dont
your what
trackmania lol.. the racing game
hmm, maybe the effect of the delve-belt is broken or ignored by sim?
its not
what keys are bad for Assas? like streets anything else?
but maybe it is
hi guys, i need some help, i have 4 pieces.. but im having trouble with mythic plus as assasination, at the beginning dont know how many garrotes and ruptures i should cast, when tank brings like 5 or 6 packs... i feel that i need to spam envenmo right away, but im trying to bleed a lot of mobs.. but when i want to start to envenom... mobs are halg live because other characters, as dks, and shamans, are already pumping.them... is there a specific rotation for when there are like 20 + mobs or so?.. im feeling that i shouldnt garrote and rupture as much... thank u in advance for your answer
Steets is fine for sin
is there a way to make /rc ready checks work when the rclootcouncil addon is active
don't let people trick you
should be 1/8 champ
you just dont have massive pulls, i do more as outlaw
for conquest gear
if ur dps isn't depleting the key it don't rly matter
How much crit should I run?
whatever the robot tells you
about 2.35
stat weight sim ftw
stat weights will weigh you down and drag you to Hell
How :D?
Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html
Do you know the Raidbots website?
I like this raid
where
what context?
no
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
bleeds for the bleed god
oh xd
wowhead dot gov
any advice? u.u
atleast 5 ruptures, press garrote during IC and spread as many as possible
keep caustic up
CT up 100%
pump
I got the DH boots on my rogue and I feel like Shinra Kusakabe now
can i bind cold blood into something?
!macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
ty
oops
Like we've done before
5 targets 1 min Latest
dungeonslice since at least Shadowlands
I put on the gray sweatpants and a crop top and firlands dagger with these boots and I feel like a bad bitch (6’1” 260 lb bearded man)
maybe even bfa
ok
!poison
You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:
Lethals:
- Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
Non-Lethals: - Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB
Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used
Dslice is the sim of champions 
damn, 2pc was a big upgrade for DS aoe, but wtf.. the st with fatebound got insane with 2pc
on dimensius, do you wanna use fok or ´mutilate to generate combopoints for add phase?
is there no good aoe build for fatebound? its pretty fun to play with
yo quick question, if got the netherprism of the 6th boss, it is bis no?
or did i bamboolzed my raid
it is listed as 2nd best in the trinket list
For mythic plus no , for raid just run the same build but with caustic spatter
dang, the 4pc sounds like fun for m+, just lacks pure aoe?
Very good for FB in raid
Pretty much
And DS defensively better compared to FB
what are we doing with vanish in fatebound hero talent?
on this build what do I use vanish for?
^
Use at 3 minutes
for what
the burst on FB is just insane, that KB window is huge
but is it bis
yeah that bait and switch talent is nuts
Maybe read fatebounds hero talents
Your cds and having stacks on prism
Yeah
wish it gave something to feint, would be op though with how low the cd is
and do what skill--Ambush?
Drop cheat death for more defensive a through feint
Legit no one reads the tooltips
Vanish and act like you’re sending opener as if you were pulling boss
!guide
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
new rogue here, what does this represents on atrocityui. normally they are buffs that you shouldnt forget before fight but its not poison i assume
wowhead
deathstalker's mark
which you can find out by opening your rogue weakaura
That’s the mark your tracking
and clicking on the icon
and that's not where pre fight buff icons show up in atrocityui
they're top left
no i ment like the poison or weapon bless on paladin
yea that icon shows up in the top left with atrocityui
for poisons
unless you moved it yourself idk
Feel like 30% of FB questions have their answer be "Double Jeopardy"
guys how much increase is pooling for sanguine blades in m+?
!macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
or macro with shiv
Like the tier set for lucky coin part confused me at first
for some reason i had problems with kingsbane cold blood macro
dont use that stupid sht,read the wowhead guide
But it's never about that
In the 4pc, what gives us the "lucky fatebound coin" to trigger that effect?
what do you mean is archon updated
People never ask how it's doing that
okay
no, is it just flipping the same thing 7 times right?
Yes
So couldn't we get double reduction?
Hi all quick question, if I have shiv and darkest night up, should I use shiv before darkest night for the amp, or after to proc a stack of deathstalkers mark?
ok thanks man
Guys what are the main diference between deathstalker and fatebound for m+? Thanks
FB is turbo shit for M+
what a vault
do we use tea on shiv with fb aswell?
bro those things aren't cheap
smells like broke in here
broke is a mindset
it is
you dont have a rich man's mindset
he's just frugal guys
when you finish 20th it doesnt matter
🌾
a rich man buys 200 r3 mana oil
a poor man buy 2 r2's before raid and doesn't refresh
sometimes i dont even hit the cauldron i got so much gold
can't be arsed to move them onto my bars
damn that sucks
Congrats
i know when i change my belt
what command for bis?
!bis
BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. On top of this, all stats being good on Assassination means there are currently over 500 "BiS" combinations that are within margin of error. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.
Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS from world content is especially not helpful, and we do not maintain any lists of these types. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. Use Top Gear/Droptimizer to compare against your character.
FUCK YOU
!macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
everything fine?
there was a command to see which drop where
Shift+J in game
we dont do that here
can you put embellishment on neck?
yes
!loot
holy fuck thats hot
Varas are you raiding this tier or just 4fun
im in a split for help
maybe rogue becomes mega op in 2 weeks for last boss
and i get called in
thats the only chance i have at any mythic prog
best second spark craft?
Fatebound or Deathstalker on nexus king without 4pc? 🤔
fatebound
ty
bracers
you can use the free runed crest from the raid questline
quick question, dm will only be synced with my kb when i have 4pc?
!poison
You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:
Lethals:
- Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
Non-Lethals: - Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB
Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used
Synced by default
KB is always synced with DM either way
my dm is 2min for some reason and my kb is 45sec
you're hacking
on fatebound i mean
Are you looking at the cd of cold blood?
Without 4set you can squeeze 2 sets of full cds before phase and your 3rs set should line up with damage amp
okay i wanna thank you before i start calling myself bad words
sorry
Good call on blizz for the tier sets to be her tree rather than a general set , I was sceptical when it was first it announced that it would be a big tuning issue
Someone got the macro for vanish with the netherprism?
tyty
help
Fix your mog
thx
Bro posted a full df s1 ss
thoughts on using the free quest from story on bracers and maxing out myth lilly, instead of crafting myth bracers this week?
Has anyone got any tips for HC soulbinder? On adds do you just rupture and caustic splatter? They're dying quite quick
crest*
Good, trinket upgrades matter more than bracers
i figured i just like to double check lol
thanks for the input
misdirect evoker to get them killed
but yeah past week 1 good luck getting good spatter value
Ok, but in theory, is that the play? I'm fairly new to specc
i mean soulbinder is just a cleave adds with spatter boss
if your group trolls and doesnt break them out correctly you'll lose damage
does anyone have a weak aura they can send to me that shows 0/2 lethal poisons etc
what embelishment on crafted 720 wrist?
Writhing Armor Banding
i dont like how my tier set is an active and not a passive
does caustic spatter bug out randomly?
and it revolves around shiv, and that it consumes a deathmark stack
!gear
i'm not sure sometimes darkest night is ready when i need to shiv
and im like do i shiv or do i not
how do i sim which crafted piece is better? i dont see a way to add embellishements in raidbots
!fuq
no but thats half the benefit of the 4pc isnt it
guys whoever did that gear image shoutout to you fr u ateeee
omg it was fuu
legend
i might just make a crit mast neck tbh
Arguably it's a very small portion, not even half
you dont
You don't
Frick
It has a cast time
you cant macro channels into instant casts
Noted ty
When do we shiv always with 2 Stacks or
how small are we talking
idk if this is allowed here, but sims say i should craft cloves with writhing on it, but is that really the best here? what would you craft
The value of the DS tier is the increased shiv duration which is a dmg bonus and the improved tree dmg buff, the consuming mark stack is a small portion
It's saying gloves because your gloves are crap
only sims that way cauuse you have 4pc in other slots
and that
Yeah i figured, but would it be a bad idea to craft gloves in case i need to break set for myth gloves in the future, or would you craft gloves?
You wouldn’t craft gloves because it’s a bad place to craft
Gloves are high stat slots
i would craft necks
If only Whispyr had a crafting suggestion section 🙁
True
He already has people just need to learn to chew
I read the wowhead which just says wrist, which is why im asking
I wonder how much the of a dps increase it is from 2 piece to 4 piece. Prayge I get it tonight.
~300k ish
id say
on ST
I saw some logs of some rogues with 1m deathmark, how does this bug work?
Your sim is skewed because your gloves are so bad the main stat gain from them trump's everything about the embellishments
With FB?
yo is that the right simulation for M+ or using patchwerk ?
yes
dungeon slice
Going from 2-4pc for me was about 9-10%
what do you do woth 4p ds bonus when you got dn on your next env and shiv comes off cd? use it and skip that 1 stack usage for the dn buff?
Belt is fine
Another question, Since we are using cold blood again, when do you recast it during a fight? When you vanish again?
Wrists or belt are both acceptable as long as u have myth track wrists
macro to kb, dont think about it
i mean... i dont, i have hero wrist
Then craft wrist
The image had my gear
Always shiv before?
do we have any changes rotationnaly on bleed build with our tier set ?
is crafting the wrist worth it? or upgrading big stat pieces first?
But wouldnt you want to maximize the poison dmg of shiv with KB?
That’s a sim question for your character
true, ty
I don't know how you do this all day my guy lmao
I saw some logs of some rogues with 1m deathmark, how does this bug work?
whats the vanish usage with 4p fatebound? 3 min together with prism?
!up
@mental thistle fixed afaik
its not fixed
do you have to target who has Deathstalker's mark to consume from the tier bonus?
i had it today
You get numb after a while so it doesn’t feel as bad, but sometimes there’s like that one REALLY stupid question that rips all of the numbness off like a wax strip and makes you question how people are able to put their socks on in the morning without an instruction manual
The 4pc procs twice
Sock instruction manual for the pookies when
If you’re running arterial precision the aoe can also remove a stack
They never did that assignment in school about writing directions how to make a pb&j sandwich
ok ty
we need a sock instruction manual
with 4pc on ST - are we wanting to use tea on both shivs?
yeah, but how ?
you should read the guide
it explains it
he cancel the lucky coin aura, or something like that ?
didnt they fix that with this reset?
random
Cause it’s jank as hell and the lucky coin is a projectile, so it just breaks
They said they did, but they didn’t
happened all night to me
anyone know if fatebound 4pc bug is fixed? i was crying last night on heroic reclear LMAO i kept getting 2min cds
thank you blizzard very cool
It isn’t
i wasnt getting the bug at all but after their "fix" with the 1min bug im getting it a lot more now
That’s pure coincidence
maybe this question was asked before sorry about that, but with 4p should we wait that the DM to be aligned again and delay the shiv+kb ?
basically almost all pre-myth bis
just need prio ring
and my guild still holding me back 
If it doesn’t line up you got the bug that they fixed but didn’t fix
do i can refreshing improved garrote with improved garrote during deathmark ?
ok ty
Depends on situation, in aoe you want to use improved garrote until they all have improved garrote
!gear
Read thanks.
!plater
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
!gear
so in aoe when i use my vanish in cd i refresh the garrote if its gone to fall and apply it on other
caustic on first boss mythic?
no
there are no adds
well
there are no adds on the boss
and you should just run to the boss
thought they both got gripped in together
but fair
I just ignore and play fall guys?
absolutely love that
Is there a list which talents you play on which boss in Omegalul-raid?
that's what i did and the adds died fine
Thank you kind sir
but think it's geared towards heroic/what we knew on release
Dumb question but when casting shiv do I always want to cast the marco'd shiv with tea?
how good are the mythic boots for cloak?
bis
lol
no you do use it, but I can see why you might think that you don't 👀
Cloak for me at least is around 3-6% overall with no boots, so mythic boots would add another 1-2%
Depending on what the next pulls are you might want to hold a vanish for a chain pull, but otherwise yeah that’s fine
For fatebound, do we use vanish with every other deathmark
Yes
k thanks whispy love you
I feel like they could just make the 4pc change the CDs passively and not tie it to lucky coin
and we'd be just fine
well it says "can't be used" if i don't have a stack ^^
You can literally gaurantee 7
I know that, I'm saying I'm sure that's where all the bugs are coming from
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
- Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
hekili OP
!macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
no i was talking about the first vanish not the second one but i got it now ty u
Hekili pretty good for knowing when you have enough garrotes out
how often can we expect to have a lucky fatebound coin? Will we generally get one every pull?
With new tier set you get it during your opener guaranteed if you press your buttons in the right order
@grave osprey unironically its my best WA and its not even a WA
oh I see, neat
i use nothing else
👍
Hey peepz 🙂 i got a question
i got araz trinket and netherprism
do i use them both in m+
would use ritual forge
and start with araz on first pull
nah, why would you do that
assa in m+ is 2min for big burst and then great consistent dmg outside of it
i got seafrium too
no real use for 2x on use really tbh
unless there is some giga cooked tech i dont know about
the value of double on use in keys is already contested for sub who can actually alternate them, no reason to do that on assa when you can just use forge every deathmark
so in m+ with deathstalker just use seaforium and araz
yup
yeah and on pull you're gonna get like a single stack so it might as well not exist
question about raid build
i got 4 set now and from now on my DM wont line up with vanish
what should i do?
so i shouldnt line it up with DM?
no you use it with deathmark
use on pull, wont be up for 1:30 dm, use at 3m with deathmark
and so on
you just hold it until deathmark is up again
guys I have a question
been playing Fatebound tonight in raid and already have 4 set
i've noticed that sometimes, especially during the first opener, despite me pressing KB and Cold blood at the same time, there's a 15sec cooldown difference between both even though everything should be fine, including the lucky coin proc
any idea of what is wrong?
sounds like you didnt get the lucky coin proc
could it be I did something wrong during the opener?
i mean im a bit tired but maybe i didnt notice
Hi guys, would you please remind me why we lineup vanish with DM? (Yes I watched the 3.5h rogue guide from Whyspir, just forgot)
im wondering
Yes... right. Thank you 🙂
are the sims for the delve belt broken or?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rBQ9Uo9gcLCnFQYm1UXqre this is a 0.7% upgrade from craft
why does my KB sometimes have 1 min cd even with tier equipped?
anyone else have this bug
fixes itself after first use in combat
re-read it
oh
to have the cdr
GOT IT
What are people playing on Forgeweaver? FB or DS?
whispyr
DS - Cleave
when i using mana oil and ironclaw enchant ?
is it normal to have your deathmark and kingsbane desynced from each other by like 10 seconds later into the fight?
like how bad am I for being in that situation often
whispyr talked about using both oil and whetstone?
yes
if u have 4p yes
kk
yeah it feels that way
is it true that killing soulbinder unlocks loom loot in vault?
when do we stop using the heroic Jasper ring?
when something else sims better
Soulbinder is listed as third boss so it should unlock loomithar loot yes
that is rather huge
Insanely huge for people who just pug first two mythic
manifesting antenna in my vault next week
so on fatebound with netherprism u get no on-use value from it in opener since u have no stacks?
ye
what is it gonna pop
I mean if you had like 13 or something at 3 mins
u can press it idk, u do press it eitherway at 3 mins
thats why I asked if you should have 18 by 3 ins
3 min mark is what matters the most
kk
so then the answer is just yes
ye
Yes
Yes
You'll basically always have 18 stacks at 3m anyway unless you go afk or something
So put stacks out of your pretty little mind
I have the thing but I really like lily
I mean lily isn't BAD if you wanna use it. Is it as good as prism? No but it's not bad
its just a satisfying trinket, lines up perfectly with the 1.5 min window
and me like mastery on use
big number
Prism barely sims better for me anyway but both are also champ track so it's a bit fucked either way
No on use luck so far this tier

could it be, that the S2 Set bonis are OP now?
Prism is giga for certain fight spots. Like the platforms on the last 2 bosses
i hate it wen my bonis is op
i do 4-5kk DPS in m+ with S2 gear (664gs + 4pc set boni from S2)
i could change to S3 bonis now, but im unsure to do so^^
because of trhis insane dmg (im normaly not taht good 😄 :D)
the s3 set bonuses are very very good
and you're losing out on a fuckload of stats
no chance s2 4pc beats s3 4pc
in M+ i using shiv with darkest night its okay to do it right ?
Heroic kinda feels like u want to hold for dmg amp on last boss tho
Otherwise ur ripping max stack plat 1 and having around 12 for dmg amp
Fuck that. I absolutely just gap people before we get there
Also you just annihilate the add phase with spatter
Holding prism that long for amp would likely just make it worse than a different on use
Maybe not though I just say shit
Its perfect timing.
Free real estate
Yea its definitely good, we just blitz platforms too fast to restack before getting to p3
Gonna test both next week see what happens
Yeah there's a world where your group just evaporates the platform I guess. In which case MAYBE
In mythic+ aoe do i need to apply garrote and rupture to every target or just up to 5 for max scent of blood
At this stage I haven't run into the issue of my guild Penn and tellering the platform that fast though
other rogue has heroic lily and won heroic netherprism in raid today, I have still House of Cards from last season
feels baaaaaaaaaad man
I still don't agree with it but like it can happen if someone is a long time guildy etc
Yo guys can someone give me some types on asssination rotation please
I'm a bit different I guess. I'd have probably traded it to you
We usually get to p3 with roughly 20-30 seconds left on deathmark cd and about 12 stacks on prism
Which fwiw prism seems to stack at about 6 stacks a minute so its perfect for 3 minute vanish
ye I definitely would have traded it but he's within his rights to keep it if it's an upgrade
Ahhahahah
Hi,
been playing outlaw for a while, switching to sin very soon jus getting some gears ...
trying to look for a guide regarding the thistle tea, and energy pooling, specifically on raiding.
do we not go below 30 energy so we save the thistle tea before KB? or this is not the case anymore and we can consume all thistle teas.
No in pve
just means I'll have the same approach in mythic ahah
Forget tea exists
It actually took the wrong response
What do you wanna do? Punish people that farm much? 
I'm a manual tea enjoyer and I'll never change
I think TECHNICALLY as FB you can just like let tea go completely passive tbh
am I crazy for not macroing it to shiv? I feel like I get a lot more longevity out of my energy pool if I save it for the restoration rather than the mastery boost
But I'm unsure. Total feelycraft
I do the same and so I don't go dry in execute phase
sending all of them on the last 10% mashing my buttons feels soooo good
How fb in m+?
As FB I have a suspicion that completely passive tea is at least not negative value
Dog shit
Complete trade off of bonus mastery in cds vs energy longevity
Mastery in cds historically wins iirc
Its not negative value on either
Do you guys know how this guy has 30s KB? Is it a bug, or am i missing something
Else the macro wouldnt be there
I think it's the double up tier bonus bug
but what do you do before KB cd gets up, do we save energies and not cast any attacks
Anyone had DM bug happen TWICE?
Just did heroic dimensius and I used DM at like 8secs and also a 60 secs
nefpre
not in fatebound, but yes in deathstalker
wait
Just slam all ur energy before cds
Full tea value and macro
I'm just wrong
Ez
pretty sure u alway shiv before kb
ye I'm brain fried
fatebound is better then deathstalker ?
DM shiv KB on DS
Shiv DM KB on FB
generally yes unless you're doing m+ or an add heavy fight
Probably
not in the off-DM window in Deathstalker?
Demon hunters, fun fight. Bleed build in raid baybee
we get them with the technicalities
Lol it feels so illegal
are you srs?
Any of yall figured out the best targets in the dh fights to make mark swapping not giga aids
always
might be my most hated fight ever 
did you see a garf on my post?
Bleed goes hard on that fight yeah
is there a specific one to keep as main target? that jumps about less than the others?
if the tank moves the bosses its fine
say garf right now
Make me
Normally i open Mutilate, rupture deathmark shiv, tea kingsbane cold blood evenon
no opener should start with mutilate
WTC
brother where is your garotte
Ok ok
it's either garrote or ambush
Yeah garote i mea.
depending on your spec
Sorry
as a player without any huge mythic progress what type of guild should i look foor?
I open with garrote first after i cast mutilate to generate cp
Bro yo fucking actually
Why do all the bosses in the raid have such fucking offensively small hit boxes
an AotC guild or casual mythic one, depending on your existing logs
dimensius hitbox is very annoyingly small in p1
the fucking massive smash knocking you out of melee unless you get right near the edge of it
i hate it so much
aotc this season?
you gotta be brave and get knocked over the gap
Real
yes
massive steel nuts on anyone who does that lmao
this is so fucking annoying
What should i cast when i vanish?
how is the hitbox taht small tho
Also real
just insta shadowstep and pray you dont land on the tank
looks bugged
fucking dementor
that entire platform minus the very back should be in melee range
Focus ss macro to dk
Mid tier mythic guild prob, join there, see how you like it and then you can adjust based on logs.
This offends me. Honestly feral can fucking pump in keys
what is a mid tier mythic guild actualy like 4/8 mythic last season?
Jesus fuck this chat
do it before the first envenom inside DM
He has like green adventurer gear
you good homie?
jesus doesnt fuck chats
XD
Maybe 6/8 last season because last season was a bit easier.
hmm i kinda got it
thanks
Shindigg has a video where he started mythic raiding. Could always use his strat and apply to top 100 US guilds and work your way down 🤣
honestly if your heroic logs are good a lot of guilds even up to like 7/8m or very late ce will give you a shot
p3 is also too small imo
rogues are in short supply so a lot of them just say fuck it
thats how i got into my first guild
im on EU and thats the biggest problem
But tbh
EU has top guilds too
Minus the hearler who was silent for most of it sweating his ass off
i have 90 log on deimensius nm and 70 on 1st boss HC
my guild rn is too bad
Was the most fun key i've done this expac tbh
so i cant really progress the raid
cause we were just dicking around
With Indiscriminate Carnage. Since its smart. Do you guys let ruptures and garrotes fly on main target or are people tab targeting still with ID in m+
nm logs are not that good
there's an EU recruitment discord
yep
normal logs will not help
so may be worht looking there
you can pug heroic
gotta tab on big pulls
OH do you have it? can i send you a dm for invite?
to really spread the shit
go for it!
the problem is invitations 😄
then apply to shit
NM/HC logs is legit all dependant on your group
if you ahve fast kill time u get more
pad logs by joining some giga group
they have no rogue
last season i have 81 on first boss mythic and 50 on 2nd
HMMM
Should we immediately tab target after your initial Deathstalker/Garrote/Rupture?
you're probably better off with mouseover macros
not to waste it
but I'm lazy and never switch
even in massive pulls
5 scent of blood stacks and off we go
?
I have never been able to use Mouseover macros well.
its because the range is so small you need to be inside mobs
and if tanks is moving them
GG
Yeah staying on one target and gar gar rup rup gar gar CT is good enough tbh
!gear
Need to kick something? Kick the target you're on. If it wasn't casting anything just tell everyone your kick was stolen.
Easy
For legal reasons. I am of course kidding
Please kick casts.
Gives me more excuses to not.
if blizzard want me to kick, they should make it give energy
With antenna, do we go out of our way to get them. Or do we just wait for it to come to us?
https://es.warcraftlogs.com/reports/h9ArpH2QgfnLZd7N?fight=34&type=damage-done
Hi guys, I'm having a hard time dealing the damage I should on bosses. Looking at and comparing my logs, I'm unable to analyze why my DMG is failing so much. Can someone help me, DM me, or just help me if possible? Im a bit worried, bc last patch was perma 95+
With Whispers plater profile. Where does the pandemics come from.
If you CAN do anything to improve your chances of an antenna you probably should
Outside of like sleeping with your gm or some insane shit
to be fair
most of the classes with kicks do get something if they kick properly (at least, they have talents for that)
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
shut down the discord
Guaranteed to work
you gotta aim bigger with that I think
give us acro back for kicks
well give us acro back period but at least for kick range
Maaaaate I would do unspeakable things for acro
ngl I have never played with DF acrobatic strikes
and I still miss them
i think i'd still be playing rogue if they never gave us acro
or if we still had acro
true losing it was the worst
what delve belt power do we use in aoe and st?
what are we supposed to craft this week?
@haughty flicker 
I’m back on rogue bestie

The shadow experiment is over
Whisperwind rogues support group to tempt lanille back off priest.
just heard some horrifying news about this discord
you guys didnt even want to help a new assa player?
smh
?
Im ew and they;ve helped me a ton
new
sure man
Let’s goooo
Its all true, we should shut down the entire server.
is this from the jesus fucker?
you cant put 2nd embellishment on neck right to buff the weapon one?
!macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
Jesus fucker? I'd fuck Jesus
i dont think you can put writhing band on a neck no
No
I may have gotten slightly confused with phrasings
could do double lens but thats more of a sub thing
My cousin's name is Jesus, but I wouldn't fuck him
How the fuck
Guys, can u read me someone pls
whta piece of gear are we crafting this week?
wrists unless you were forced to take a mythic wrist from vault
I think
but maybe worth simming jewellery if you've been very unlucky with it
Ah I would sorry but I'm at work. Memeing in the chat is already splitting my attention further than i should lol
you parsed a 90 my dude
This early in the season I would not be remotely worried about a 90
Some peeps have WILD gear
I'm getting gapped by the rogue in my guild, but he has 10 ilvl on me and 4pc and 6/6'd all his heroic gear
my time will come
Item disparity be real this early on
ye even at the same ilvl
and we care more about secondary stat distribution than before too
I missed out on some shunter boots last night. IMMEDIATELY felt the results
there is a serious lack of crit heavy gear
you use two shivs on your first kingsbane outside of deathmark
with fatebound 4p you only shiv the back half of kingsbane outside dm
otherwise you wont have 2 shivs for dm, which ended up happening to you
you also should be using prism as a 3m cd
so use it on your 3m dm instead of every dm
if sin rogue was a ranged class, what would we be? trying to figure out an alt
im reading u
Don't look at me. I didn't look at the parse itself lol
knife throw extraordinnaires
like at the circus
Nahhhhh
you used vanish at your 2m kingsbane, save that for your 3m deathmark
treat vanish as a 3m cd just like prism
should i play around sanguine blades in single target with bleed build?
i dont see that as an option in character creation
no
you mean out of the ranged wow classes?
If sin was ranged
There's these rat guys in fantasy Warhammer. Poison wind globadiers
That's sin
you also started getting sloppy with your burst later in the fight, do it the way you did in opener every time
duh
not sure that's duh
does deathmark unstealth u
but uh none of the mreally
i say duh because I said I was trying to figure out an alt
hunter or warlock I guess
on a 3:46 kill you could save prism and pot for zoldycks. if you're talking about your ilevel parse, there's only 143 logs by 703-705 rogues, which is such a small sample they could just be critting more than you
is lily trinket for M+ or Raid?
yes
more raid
Mate that question absolutely had me stun locked. Ty
you would rather have forge or prism for m+
but
if you dont have either, lily does still work fine
Lily is good
have been unlucky with drops and lily is all ive gotten
It doesn't give you that fucking Hulk smash mode that prism does though
imagine thinking lily is unlucky
well, if you actively raid - sure
Bruv
just because im a hardcore raider
real
you can also stack it for almost all bosses tho
I guess Arcane could kinda work, you build up points, you spend them, you have a burst that wants you to cram a lot of shit into it because it duplicates some of your damage
has some decent funnel to it, too
You're about to take everything on that platform to the casting couch
as long as you just keep yourself in combat
just like do
autoattack damage on the trash mobs

anyway
time to deconstruct my pc
so i can get my power supply out
for M+ just make sure you have 2 shivs for DM and then outside of that just shiv on CD?
yes
I actively raid and all I have is a pacemaker from flood and house of cards from last season
I would absolutely love a lily
Like in m+ you can 1000% shiv for the vibes
If it's a myth hoc it's not bad at least
Like could be worse
it is but I just got 4 set
I feel for you though
so I need to farm a lily before Sunday now
lets goooooooo I'm getting better finally
!wa

