assassination

[waxen oyster]

Not a great idea.

[lunar pond]

Yeah shield lol

[waxen oyster]

Never trust anyone who plays male orc

straightback

[fallow canopy]

no one remembers the pug runs that go well just the ones that are memorably bad

[red zealot]

There a Kingsbane Coldblood Macro in any of the guides? not seeing it in the Wowhead one

[sharp sinew]

!gear

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1405681489470951594/sin_.webp

[spice spire]

!kb

[prisma monolith]

The Kingsbane Bug associated with the Fatebound 2 Set Bonus was not fixed on PTR. We have no way of knowing if it is fixed on live servers, as tier is not available until next week. Fatebound sims reflect the bug and are still much stronger.

[spice spire]

Fuck

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[prime pulsar]

For the bleed build in aoe is my goal to just keep re-applying ruptures on non prio target and keeping tempest up. Is envenom a lesser priority since I dont have poison bomb and caustic ?

[main bridge]

no, all of these things are important

envenom also has a buff that's maintained by using it, and envenom gets giga buffed by shiv+DN

[prime pulsar]

DN?

[main bridge]

the centerpiece of the build is getting back to DN by casting finishers

Darknest Night

[prime pulsar]

Ah gotcha

[main bridge]

read all of your talents and the guides

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-back-laugh-contain-laughter-try-not-to-laugh-gif-14573032070357011316

[prime pulsar]

I get most of the maintenance stuff I think I just need some timers for them with a WA

[royal lantern]

its so hard to hold back

[red schooner]

Do it

[prime pulsar]

I agree

[static glacier]

i remember really good runs a lot more, this bdk in floodgate man

[brave stump]

!dn

[static glacier]

he pulled two packs into big momma

everyone over 20m dps

absolute beast

[main bridge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[static glacier]

he kept gripping the frontal soldiers back for us too

[fallow canopy]

bdk 🐐

[brave stump]

Big Momma is such fun with a good tank

[static glacier]

he managed to pull enough mobs that the mm hunter won, massive respect

[next compass]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[glad ferry]

I kinda feel like the fatebound 4p bug makes 2 min trinkets better still than 1.5 ones lol

It lines up better

[maiden bear]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[autumn prism]

Pacemaker or arakara trink ?

[humble verge]

PACEMAKER

I TELL YA

[lavish geyser]

hello 🙂 I must be doing something very wrong since im not parsing good at all. and I was wondering if someone could look and see what im doing wrong.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dX2nD8arcjtxVpHm?fight=10&type=damage-done&source=76

[wintry trout]

u got season 2 set , that will make u probably lose to alot other players

[lavish geyser]

but rotationally, am I doing something wrong?

[wintry trout]

hopefully someone that actually plays assass can help you wit that , i cant say im an expert on this spec , but new season 2 set def helped me up my dmg quite a bit

[humble verge]

not even orange logging on Nexus-King

[snow kindle]

what is the 4pc bug doing exactly?

[humble verge]

cause my cds dont fucking lineup with intermission

[lavish geyser]

yeah I think that would help alot. I dont think there is any variation in the rotation. and all my stuff lines up very well. so idk, and its st with no mechanics

[meager plank]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[neon drift]

Just coming back to my rogue and was wondering if the bleed build from wowhead is the recommended one for low keys? The one without kingsbane?

[green drum]

Do you know how to use the compare function in warcraftlogs? It’s pretty neat. You can check yourself against the top parses (with similar item level and fight duration) and see the cast timeline. Looks like you’re using different poison, decently similar rotation but I’m at work and don’t have time to do a full breakdown. Here’s the link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/dX2nD8arcjtxVpHm/D7xjM9TFXfHWY8mg?fight=10%2C24&type=damage-done&source=76%2CAvasa&view=timeline

[quartz kiln]

Can you use vanish before the CDs? Or should it go after?

[green drum]

Oh wait poisons look fine, sorry was scrolling through on phone so didn’t see it

[ruby birch]

!bug

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue

[ruby birch]

what exactly is causing the fb cd bug

if it happens its almost always on my first set of cds

is it double coins or something

both hitting lucky?

[humble verge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kEmKufd9hp3SP3BZVoRvnG my ST is poomping

[river pawn]

hey guys i wanna ask a question i wanna get iron wire talent its pretty good for m+ but which talent i must change for it ?

[marsh fjord]

weak im 3 item levels lower then you and sim more

[lavish geyser]

thanks. this guy presses colblood before he presses kingsbane. can you empower kingsbane with cold blood?

[green drum]

I believe that’s correct. I do the same

[lavish geyser]

that might be some of it. I used it for a envenom.

and I see he also stealths right before pressing kingsbane

[indigo epoch]

Not supposed to run IW, big dps loss

[humble verge]

ok, didnt ask

[hollow fulcrum]

rage bait at its finest

[green drum]

I can look into it more this evening when I get home if you need more. Also here’s my logs I’m more of a “normal person” compared to parse #1. I’m Speed in the group

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LqarW2jABwhC9fpT?fight=last&type=casts&source=218&view=timeline

[patent snow]

One thing to note, I had been following the guide and saving my 2nd shiv for the last 8 seconds of KB. Apparently that is wrong, and your supposed to use it on the last 8 seconds of DM.

[hollow fulcrum]

dong wntice me

[vital haven]

Has the reason being found out on fatebound 4pc not working correctly?

Sometimed it gave me too much cdr lol

[haughty flicker]

Cb only works on envenom as fatebound, as long as you are pressing it before your first envenom after kb its fine

Most just macro it to kb

[haughty flicker]

Whispyr was also saying it doesn't really matter when you vanish around deathmark as long as it isn't after your envenoms

So vanish before or after deathmark doesn't matter

[west crown]

KB

[haughty flicker]

I didn't see any of the normal glaring issues on your log, you wasted a decent amount of cp so maybe look at that

But otherwise just get 4p and better rng

[quiet oriole]

Wasn't there something about 4pce though that you didn't wanna over lap

[west crown]

You are vanishing every other DM. What overlap

[haughty flicker]

There wouldn't be any overlap with anything

[lavish geyser]

ok good to know

[quiet oriole]

Ok im just not remembering correctly mb

[haughty flicker]

Can search for what whippy said about vanish he explains it better

[lavish geyser]

thanks I would really appreciate it. cause im doing very well in m+ but I suck in raid

[haughty flicker]

#assassination message

[hearty seal]

ok what the fuck, why doesn't CloS dispel time bomb from Hooktail
it's specifically a magic effect, blue border and all

[haughty flicker]

Fb opener for dummies by the man himself

[quiet oriole]

So we can just macro vanish with deathmark?

[glass root]

!macro

[humble verge]

macwo

:3

macowo

[glass root]

😄

[humble verge]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[runic hinge]

[humble verge]

man

dawns lottery scamaz

[haughty flicker]

[humble verge]

only staff won it

[fathom minnow]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[thin oyster]

Hello, is the Wowhead guide good enough to get started?

[wicked carbon]

Yeah it's great

[thin oyster]

Ty

[cedar elm]

how much crit% does fatebound need

[royal lantern]

bettwen 0 and 100%

if you are in that range, you sim your avaible gear

[elfin fossil]

you macro lily to deathmark right?

[pliant remnant]

Si senor

[wicked carbon]

In theory yes but I wonder if it's not better to macro it to shiv in M+

[elfin fossil]

actually true

[golden loom]

Why

[pliant remnant]

Yeh macro it to Shiv

instead of using with Deathmark + Shiv

[red zealot]

Is there any place for me to look at logs I just got back into raiding and want to see where I can improve

[wicked carbon]

Well often times I'll keep deathmark if there's no big prio add in the pack and that ends up losing quite a bit of trinket uptime

You don't need DM to do big dam on a pack but you basically always shiv

[golden loom]

Well instead of doing that just send DM on cd

[wicked carbon]

It's a dps loss to do so

Depends on key level too

[golden loom]

The 1 giga global is a dps loss?

[wicked carbon]

DM does very little damage in AOE

if you're not trying to supress a target fast it's not very good

[pliant remnant]

I like how bro is calculating his DM value on the fly

[vocal cradle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[pliant remnant]

sees into the future and into future M+ pulls

but he can't just set a keybind for trinket

like this is so ass backwards

[golden loom]

Well if you send it on a target that gets instakilled by sudden demise its basically a big envenom

[wicked carbon]

Like you guys send DM on CD in M+ ?

[golden loom]

Yes

[wicked carbon]

You know there's a boss next pack you don't hold it ?

You know there's a big prio add next pack you don't hold ?

[queen cosmos]

!consumables

[golden loom]

No? It will come back up during the fight anyways

[queen cosmos]

whats the command to sim weap enchants again?

[golden loom]

For example floodgate, you have something to deathmark every pull

[wicked carbon]

Not really

Scafolder fights for exemple

[golden loom]

Yeah? Send it into the architect dude

Or a surveyor

Who cares

[wicked carbon]

Yeah but I'm more talking about the CD coming up mid fight and everyone is like midlife

Sending a shiv makes sense but not DM

[golden loom]

If the pack lives long enough to trinket it lives long enough to dm

[wicked carbon]

you end up delaying DM by another 30 sec and it's 1 minute lily lost

Not necessarily

If you DM target dies faster

Trinket you do AOE damage

I'm actually talking out of my arse right now I'd need to test it

But DM delays are a thing

[main bridge]

What do you mean the architect is a great target

[haughty flicker]

Then you're just desyncing your trinket from the next deathmark, murdering your prio on the next target

[golden loom]

Yeah like if you are holding dm for a prio target

But sending trinket

You are losing prio dam

[wicked carbon]

you are but you lose so much damage by holding trinket too much that it could justify it

[small garnet]

what bosses are gonna be a fatebound angle

first 2 and frac?

[chilly nimbus]

Assa rogue is stacking haste for m+ right now?

[rotund oak]

[haughty flicker]

All except soulbinder araz and council

[fallow canopy]

and the dhs

[fallow canopy]

oh im blind

[rotund oak]

where did that came from

[haughty flicker]

[fallow canopy]

[rotund oak]

[fallow canopy]

I need more coffee

[chilly nimbus]

I sim my rogue and btw all rings he choose just a ring with 7k haste, and I'm seeing so many rogues with jewels in raider io with haste jewels

[rotund oak]

haste jewels?

[golden loom]

As long as you are using whats simming best for you

Thats all you gotta do

[chilly nimbus]

idk if is just coincidence

[chilly nimbus]

rings and neck

has/vers, crit/has, has/mas ...

[queen cosmos]

!consums

[golden loom]

Well also this early in the season there arent many options

You equip what you have etc

I have only gotten 1 floodgate neck in 65 keys

So maybe I would use a haste vers neck but I dont have one to even have the option

[latent wedge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[rotund oak]

Ok here is something that we know about sin and m+

1. Sin doesnt care about secondary stats all that much,especially deathstalker.There is a general guideline for crit mastery but you always sim yourself,each profile is different.
   2)Fatebound likes crit for raid,you still sim
   3)Dont watch dudes with high io and copy them,its wrong.
   4)Read the guide(wowhead one)
   (Yes we rly dont care about secondaries all that much.Ilvl wins any secondary stat coz agility is always stronger)

[quiet oriole]

So we can just macro vanish with deathmark?

For fb

[west crown]

Ew no.

[lavish geyser]

how do we use nether prisim. Do we need a manual button to press or can I macro it to something?

[west crown]

Manual for FB is technically better

[quiet oriole]

Figured just trying to be lazy and have less buttons when I can

[queen cosmos]

!commands

[grim jay]

you could just macro it to vanish with 4p

[main bridge]

Type !help

[quiet oriole]

Macro kb to vanish if 4pc? Sorry im lil high on mush rn

[warm vortex]

Macro KB to Cold blood

That's it

Or as davyn says

That works

Idk im probably high aswell

[grim jay]

nah DM and vanish with a castsequence

but that would be really lazy

[warm vortex]

Tbh, it;s easy to use vanish just by pressing it

Assa doesn't have too many button so you can probably find an easy one to stick t on

[humble verge]

i am god gaming

dimensius is free for rogue

(you just dont have to die)

[waxen oyster]

is that p1

[humble verge]

no

[quiet oriole]

We don't have much true I just have legit everything i might use keybound so try to keep it neat best I can

[humble verge]

3rd platform

kekw

[warm vortex]

Do you have the log uber

[humble verge]

yea i can post my shitlogs

fu

[warm vortex]

Bro i just wanna see

Also tf you done with uberscot

he would never respond normally

he would always post with those little gremlins

Idk what their name is

[waxen oyster]

we kind of fuck on dimensius

[humble verge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LjRJtZ4czPKwXMY7?fight=20

[warm vortex]

Yea those guys

[humble verge]

r1 log

huge

[quiet oriole]

Ngl I read your name as ubersoft

[warm vortex]

What rogue are yo

Jkjk i know

[waxen oyster]

You dropped your jastor already?

[humble verge]

eys

mid pull

i am the potp totgrurew

[warm vortex]

Wait

That is the best mog i've ever seen

Nearly naked in outer space

[humble verge]

yeah

too hot for the atmosphere

[hidden plover]

drop old tier set for higher ilvl or wait till i can replace with 4 set? or 2set?

[bright turret]

you're going to put on new 2 set immediately

[humble verge]

so many more rings better than jastor

[thick juniper]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[broken sandal]

if we are 2+2, are we still running FB for fights like Nexus King, Fractillus, Dimensius? FB is a fure ST spec i thought and they all have cleave?

[waxen oyster]

Even mastery ones?

[humble verge]

im tryna farm for that vers/mast in prioriy tbh

still not gotten it yet

[strange python]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[waxen oyster]

Oh got it second run

and a vers mast from delves

[humble verge]

hoooooly shit

my pc parts are here

[clever sparrow]

anyone can sim me with droptimizer raid?

HC

[analog idol]

How do you guys handle big pulls? Like eco first pull how many bleeds do you put out etc. I can never seem to do good dps on pulls that big

[clever sparrow]

or wait let me see if its free

[coral ibex]

raidbots is free

[clever sparrow]

yeah mb

[exotic pulsar]

Biggest rule is keep at least 5 ruptures up. In my experience really big pulls, spatter is going to have more value than throwing over five ruptures out.

Shiv is your friend, vanish is your friend.

[hollow fulcrum]

should we keep vanish on cooldown basically in keys

[exotic pulsar]

Vanish does nutty damage, but you lose a lot of damage by not having restealth so you kind of just have to read the room.

On really big giga pulls I'll double vanish them sometimes.

[old terrace]

is sin actually the best m+ class rn? Or is that just clickbait youtuber hype? Cuz these evokers and arcane mages are fucking pumperss man

[viscid spear]

I'm torn about recrafting my dagger

[peak bobcat]

is the double on use real

[normal mist]

720 send it

[runic hinge]

Maybe but it sounds miserable to play

[old terrace]

I'm the real ghost btw

[raw marlin]

can someone tell me why im a fucking moron and cant do dps?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MwTc1BAVFyH3ajqf?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=33

[normal mist]

what does that mean btw

[old terrace]

it means

[analog idol]

Thanks for the response. Idk how much my stats matter but I have way too much mastery rn I think. I feel like I'll do a pull well and only 10m dps. But I will work on it

[old terrace]

^ that guy

[viscid spear]

I always get anxiety

[old terrace]

is a fake ghost

lol jk

[normal mist]

actually he's been here since 2023! take the L fake Ghost

https://tenor.com/view/nelson-ha-ha-the-simpsons-point-gif-9307434

[keen spruce]

Yeah but he’s yellow name

[old terrace]

this isn't my only account

plus my name is cooler font

[normal mist]

Thats unsettling

[old terrace]

[raw marlin]

i think everyone should stop comparing colours and names and look at my log and laugh then help me out

[keen spruce]

Why would you have more than one discord account

[normal mist]

I would loop, if i knew how to

[raw marlin]

😭

who do i spam

[old terrace]

I have 4, don't most people have more than one accounts for things?

[normal mist]

Idk if quake still does log reviews

[keen spruce]

He do

[viscid spear]

Ban evasion

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-man-no-man-no-gif-7347715096894588969

[old terrace]

Never been banned on discord

[raw marlin]

as in zac?

[normal mist]

zac is outlaw

[viscid spear]

That's what the "evading" means

[normal mist]

quake is cool

[raw marlin]

that is quake lol

who is quake

[normal mist]

@spice spire Idk if you're still able to do log reviews, sorry if i pinged you for nothing homie

[raw marlin]

which one do i tag lol

[old terrace]

thats not but okay

[keen spruce]

Im laying in bed on my phone

[raw marlin]

perfect time to review

[viscid spear]

Hi

[wide quail]

yoooooooooo... i am new here.. nice to meet you all 🫡

[keen spruce]

If I get outta bed

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-michael-scott-dunder-mifflin-the-office-welcome-aboard-gif-27005393

[keen spruce]

And go to my computer

And the log is a massive “you didn’t read the guide” situation

[raw marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/toad-kinopio-super-mario-earthquake-gif-7988646668940674734

where is dis quake

[keen spruce]

Imma crashout

[raw marlin]

imma ping all quakes

[fallow canopy]

Your opener is very... lets say not ideal ngl

[viscid spear]

Be sure to meow

[raw marlin]

wtf is wrong with my opener lol

[fallow canopy]

I'd refer to the guide ngl

[normal mist]

i pinged the right one, i just dont know if he still does it

[thorn thorn]

He does just dont have the audacity to have a key log

[raw marlin]

I asked whispyr

[keen spruce]

He do

[raw marlin]

and he said 'opener good'

[spice spire]

Let’s find out

[old terrace]

I think my opener is bad

[raw marlin]

woo

[old terrace]

I just span garrote and rup for 6 seconds

[spice spire]

Fucking moron can’t do DPS

[viscid spear]

Quake is good at identifying morons.
He found me, naturally.

[lean plover]

Im scared of being next

[keen spruce]

Ty quake now I can stay in bed

[fallow canopy]

Im on mobile so can't really look too much into it but that was an instant what the helly

[keen spruce]

[thorn thorn]

@fallow canopy

[raw marlin]

bro id rather be a short term moron and found out than longterm moron

abuse me until im good

[normal mist]

Quake is good at that

[raw marlin]

i havent raided on rogue in like 10 years, my monk logs are all pinks leave me be lol

[thorn thorn]

We will abuse you all right

[old terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-rizz-gif-7498825386517350902

[fallow canopy]

[normal mist]

feels good man

[keen spruce]

#1302556579157114921

[raw marlin]

its even worse when the other rogue is more ilvl but also parsing 99s

to make me look even more noob

lol

[young spoke]

hii, how can i get this?

[static shore]

[dapper halo]

xal feet UwU

[viscid spear]

@normal mist

[thorn thorn]

Only thing i did this patch was get cloak and do keys

[normal mist]

Its literally your best dps upgrade (unless you had a myth track weapon already)

[normal mist]

Does that make you feel happy about yourself? If yes you're doing it right

[willow wren]

is cb meant to desync from kb or am i trolling

[thorn thorn]

Yes actually

Cuz i would rather die than do dailies

[dapper halo]

is it a good thing to be a pookie

[willow wren]

yes

[raw marlin]

si

[viscid spear]

Was my first craft, gonna look towards recrafting bracers next

[normal mist]

https://youtu.be/qO8bBWWoZjg?si=cydIOUOQdl22ipMc&t=811

[normal mist]

SAME

use the dimensius enchanted crest, easy 704

[viscid spear]

I figured it was a good thing since idk when we'll be seeing Heroic Nexus-King

[viscid spear]

Oh yeah, I have that

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/you're-welcome-you're-welcome-gif-681815014536556973

[viscid spear]

Spark tomorrow I assume, I don't have a 2nd

[normal mist]

If you're NA, yes

Spark + Catalyst

[viscid spear]

I've never pushed this hard the first week of a season

[analog idol]

There can only be one

[viscid spear]

Wish my guild was more helpful

[balmy condor]

Yeah don’t look at method, its slow to update

[viscid spear]

Had to find a fellow Rogue in Trade chat to recraft after getting no response in the Discord or Guild chat

[normal mist]

Fun fact, i always level my warrior so i can have BS

I learned the hard way during S1 DF

where i had to pay 70k for a max weapon recraft

[balmy condor]

Go look up the cleave m+ build, and just swap it for fatebound

[viscid spear]

My Druid is a LW, I should grind her trees to be able to just recraft that shit myself

[clever sparrow]

we go caustic on last boss of raid?

[solid latch]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[clever sparrow]

or internal bleeding?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[viscid spear]

idk if I should respec her LW though

[clever sparrow]

thanks ❤️

[normal mist]

All you'll ever need is LW with bracers/boots/belt maxed and BS with swords/daggers maxed

which is really easy to achiev

especially if you have TWW reputations maxed

[solar wyvern]

its been done, and my mutilate bugged out and was permanently ambush so i pressed fok the entire last boss

[analog idol]

Aren't you supposed to envenom before KB? Or

[solar wyvern]

Why does that happen xd

[buoyant dome]

What could be causing Kingsbane to desync? it seems like sometimes its cooldown gets reduced substantialy and desyncs it from deathsmark + kingsbane > kingsbane > dm + kingsbane?

[viscid spear]

So do you think I should respec to get that

[half dawn]

@balmy condor nice 3h vid btw bru

[normal mist]

i believe you can respec the profession talents easily now

[haughty flicker]

grats on the ulduar achievement

[half dawn]

bruh

i hate CTing on ST

[solar wyvern]

my alt got a wrathstone so worth

[half dawn]

this is the WORST

[fallow canopy]

Ye

[haughty flicker]

wrathstone gaming

[woven ruin]

Is there a place to see all of the delve gear available early on?

[haughty flicker]

[viscid spear]

My Druid is my top alt, so I've been doing my best to keep her relevant
Spent a lot more time this week on Rogue, obviously

[analog idol]

@balmy condor unironically do you do coaching or something of the sort

[viscid spear]

Hell, I showed my dagger off in Guild chat and no one said anything

[balmy condor]

Yes but no time atm cause it’s week 1

[ashen dagger]

Is Outlaw doing More dmg in m+ right now?

[normal mist]

Well... i don't think that's a bad thing per say. My guild at least is way more active during raid nights and during the night on discord VC

[analog idol]

Bet was just wondering always trying to get better.

[normal mist]

this is assa

ask in the channel below

[half dawn]

outlaw

is cooked

[ashen dagger]

I mean more Then Assa

[inner nimbus]

Hello guys! Is it better to go bleed or fatebound for Araz? Thx!! ·

[viscid spear]

All without pushing my own shit

[echo heath]

The only time i like playing outlaw is when its cooked

[steady chasm]

On hour and a half approx right now 🍽️

[half dawn]

considering assa is one of the highest aoe specs in the game and outlaw is 8 target capped

no

[humble verge]

🥲

[half dawn]

outlaw is only cooked in the bad way

[warm vortex]

Prolly best i've done in a 10 so far

was a 10 DB

Correct me if im wrong but can you use the xal orbs to make your CT stronger in ST

[coral ibex]

yes

[normal mist]

yes

[half dawn]

yes

[normal mist]

Ct big

[half dawn]

orbs are also giga funnel

[warm vortex]

Nice
Only posotive of this shit affix

[half dawn]

no

they are gigaf unnel too

[coral ibex]

imagine a group not immediately blowing them up

xd

[warm vortex]

Oh they were haha

Tbh, i'd rather they insta blow up than not be blown up at all

[haughty flicker]

me trying to snapshot ct off the orbs and the monk just insta presses rop every time

at least he presses rop

[warm vortex]

Also holy shit you can giga pad that second boss

Forgot how good it was at that

[half dawn]

outlaw is uniornically better at that pad

but yeah

[warm vortex]

Question is
Do you care about vanishing to spread bleeds to them
Or is it just CT enven spam

For maximum paddage

[oblique sorrel]

lol

[half dawn]

its not pad they have to die

wtf

[coral ibex]

waste of a vanish imo

[oblique sorrel]

Outrageous use of a vanish

[pliant remnant]

https://wago.io/eSwGquCCh

[coral ibex]

they all die instantly and you get like 1000 energy

[warm vortex]

I know it's a shit use of it

[coral ibex]

and you can't spend 70% of it

[warm vortex]

But

[drowsy lotus]

for FB ST how come guide says shiv after DM but sims show before?

[warm vortex]

Think of how the SD looks on the dps meter

[warm vortex]

Don't follow sims for rota

Also
The tiersets they made for assa have genuinly made me enjoy the hero trees a lot more

[pliant remnant]

Sims are sandbagged dw about it

[acoustic roost]

which guide are you following?

[warm vortex]

Even if it's like, just a feels thing

[coral ibex]

you shiv before DM if you have the 2p

[acoustic roost]

wowhead

[coral ibex]

This is NOT a list that should be followed step by step

[haughty flicker]

well tbf it should be shiv before

for fatebound

[drowsy lotus]

Bro

[haughty flicker]

mebbe other guide needs a bit of an updaty

[acoustic roost]

is that one icy veins?

[drowsy lotus]

yeah icey veins

[strange onyx]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[acoustic roost]

even then

[pliant remnant]

The word "after" is not a list

[drowsy lotus]

im trying really hard not to be tilted

by people playing word games

"well the guide says not to follow t he guide"

[acoustic roost]

just blindly follow whispyr

[drowsy lotus]

when the guide could just be wrong

[haughty flicker]

yeah idk why people are being weird

[acoustic roost]

no other reason to follow anything else tbh

[drowsy lotus]

"WELL ACKHUALLY GUIDE SAYS NOT TO FOLLOW 100%"

[coral ibex]

the guide isn't wrong, its just not all inclusively correct

you dont have to tilt off the planet over it

shiv usage changes based on hero talent

[drowsy lotus]

bro read this again and go touch grass

[thorn thorn]

Its a priority list

Thats all it is

[coral ibex]

why are you so mad about this

[thorn thorn]

Its not just a “do things in this order” its a “this is a list of things you can do with priority”

[humble verge]

holy

we've spent almost

the whole raid daytrying to kill this shit boss

[thorn thorn]

Which one

[humble verge]

i feel we have so many shitters in the guild

[haughty flicker]

which boss

[humble verge]

dimensius HC

[drowsy lotus]

"Use shiv as follows" my bad forgot this wasnt a statement of fact

[thorn thorn]

[spice spire]

Get me in coach, I can + 1 that list

[thorn thorn]

On the Priority List use shiv as follows

[runic hinge]

The apl isn’t a list of how to play

[spice spire]

(I’m not EU)

[thorn thorn]

As low priority

[coral ibex]

here you go

the wowhead guide spells it out for you

precisely

[pale flower]

!gear

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1405681489470951594/sin_.webp

[acoustic roost]

must be somehting other than icy veins, because the IV one is correct as well
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-rotation-cooldowns-abilities

[coral ibex]

have i touched grass enough for you

[drowsy lotus]

OK but it disagrees factually with the Icyveins guide. So i come here for clarificaton. how does that not make sense

[pliant remnant]

no

[drowsy lotus]

seems like wowhead is more accurate

[pliant remnant]

change your name to bleed build barry

and then it'll be enough

[marble hemlock]

ill add a disclaimer to that prio list to keep the changes with/without set in mind

which are listed right before that portion of the guide

[novel star]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[coral ibex]

so true actually

it literally spells it out

just like wowhead

[coral ibex]

brother scroll up

you can see the information IN YOUR SCREENSHOT

[marble hemlock]

guys, stop spamming please

[drowsy lotus]

are the 2 not contradicting each other?

[marble hemlock]

he isnt wrong, when just looking at hte prio list, theres no consideration for the tierset

[spice spire]

My computer can’t handle it please slow down chat

[marble hemlock]

so ill add a disclaimer for it and everything will be fine

[drowsy lotus]

like i got the correct answer now with clarification

but that doesnt mean its not contradictory

[marble hemlock]

theres a reason the section about the changes with the set are before the rotation-priority lists

[thorn thorn]

Bro are you running on vista

[humble verge]

if u can top with me

you got a spot

[sleek nebula]

hi just making sure for the affix with the orbs, do we have anything besides blind to pop them?

[humble verge]

idk how we even got top 400

when people seem to not like

[runic hinge]

He only knows how to bottom

[coral ibex]

silence garrote with iron wire

[sleek nebula]

interesting ok ty

[humble verge]

ohok, then ill top him

[cerulean walrus]

Quake is a big bottom with a big bottom

[coral ibex]

not really something you should swap to for the affix tho

[spice spire]

Real ones know ig

[spice spire]

Buddy I’m gonna top ur ass so hard

[cerulean walrus]

Quake? More like Cake.

[acoustic roost]

kick, kidney shot, cheap shot, gouge

[cerulean walrus]

Are you sure about that bud?

[spice spire]

Yeah I could break ur twink ass in half

I’ve seen you king

[half girder]

anyone knows when i can exchange my Durable Information Securing Container? are the sims reliable? because i see nobody exchanged it, but my sims told me the on i got with versa mastery should be better...

[cerulean walrus]

Fair enough

[main bridge]

You don’t exchange it. Right click the belt to change the module

[runic hinge]

Kiss me, beneath the milky twilight

[coral ibex]

i think he means replace it with better gear

[latent verge]

Explain to me like I’m 5: why exactly is crit better than master for FB?

[coral ibex]

if the sim says you heave a better item, equip it

[cerulean walrus]

God the lore behind that emote

LMAOOOO

[coral ibex]

deal fate and fate intertwined talents

[half girder]

ok thank you, so what would be the best module^? i have crit, but sim tells me its 3k less then the new belt

[crisp venture]

does someone have the WA for tricks

[latent verge]

Ahhhh

[crisp venture]

i used to have something where it would auto tank

[main bridge]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[crisp venture]

thank u

[jolly stirrup]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[jolly stirrup]

!gear

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1405681489470951594/sin_.webp

[raw marlin]

on king are you lot holding CDs a bit longer for the damage amp?

[burnt star]

King salad bar?

[raw marlin]

king ensalada

[burnt star]

Cd lines up naturally no?

[raw marlin]

bro i put my CD on it and it came up early as it then zoomed off to the side

and i was like.. cool

bro

[burnt star]

Ah ya.. dont send when u need to go haha

[raw marlin]

im assuming the damage amp is on the thingy that doesnt fly out

first time we got that point, had 0 idea lol

[burnt star]

I played d.s on my kill and sending on 2m worked perfecly

[raw marlin]

it seems oin lorrgs it all lines up lol

[burnt star]

But since fatebound is best.. i can see it being back for when we need to platform

[void gazelle]

Is there any wa for Netherprism?

[real pike]

With 4pc

[raw marlin]

aww 2pc pleb i hold ok

[haughty flicker]

yeah 4p is when fatebound becomes really good for that fight

bc then you can cd platform and amp

[raw marlin]

so i just dont cd platform?/

[burnt star]

But.... they should work?

This was my kill with 2 min

Amp phase was the lust

[raw marlin]

this 4set?

[burnt star]

No.. this is d.s

[marble hemlock]

i updated the section to avoid confusion, thanks for pointing it out. (may take a few minutes to go live)

[raw marlin]

oh yh im not playing ds though

[swift prism]

I see some folks doing FB and some doing DS on forgeweaver Araz.. I know the guide recommends DS, but I’m seeing FB still crank too. Is that just coming from sims/trinkets/gear availability? Or is DS going to be the definite go-to if both are played optimally?

[burnt star]

So its 2min. Wich is the same as fatebound 2p

[clever sparrow]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kWdfDcV4Z1qY3QrN?fight=42&type=damage-done&source=932

anyone can check it pls if im making mistakes?

[raw marlin]

ok so i can ramp add and also the damage amp?

[clever sparrow]

first boss hc

[raw marlin]

ill test it

[haughty flicker]

right away shiv is wrong

with fatebound you shiv>dm>kb

[clever sparrow]

whats the difference? 😄

[old terrace]

anybody have a good example log of what single target opener looks like>

[clever sparrow]

like why shiv first?

[haughty flicker]

shiv before deathmark buffs the coins dm flips with 2p

[fallow canopy]

no envenom before also

[clever sparrow]

OHH

[clever sparrow]

so i rupture and do an envenom

[haughty flicker]

or rather, dm always flips the coins, 2p causes kb to also flip

[clever sparrow]

shiv > DM > KB

got it

[haughty flicker]

yeah envenom before cds too so the buff is up

[clever sparrow]

got it i didnt know that shiv boosts coin dmg

[haughty flicker]

your 1m kb same thing, shiv before kb not after

[clever sparrow]

Got it

[haughty flicker]

2m cds were also crangled a bit but you get the point, other than that i see nothing egregious

[clever sparrow]

But how do i have shiv in the whole duration of kb 😄

[haughty flicker]

well you wont

you just shiv before deathmark

[clever sparrow]

yeah it was on phases that we have to run to boss

[haughty flicker]

and then shiv last 8s of deathmark also

[clever sparrow]

got it

[haughty flicker]

you wasted a lot of seal fate combo points but tbh i dont know how much is good/bad

but 34 wasted of 131 sounds high

[drowsy lotus]

thanks for the clarification! appreciate it

[sour drift]

How much crafting commission are you all paying for the weapon craft? Looking for an indication.

[clever sparrow]

how to not waste? 😄

[ashen fog]

Quick question on the m+ bleed build, am I supposed to stop pressing mutilate in order to "pool'" energy to stay above 150 energy or spam at will and fuck sanguine blade uptime?
asking for ST obciously

[clever sparrow]

ahh

i generate more than cap

[haughty flicker]

just be mindful to always finish on 5

[clever sparrow]

yeah i paniced alot

[clever sparrow]

Got it

[novel star]

sanguine blades is technically prio above envenom. which means its still prio below literally everything else, including building combo points

so no

you press mutilate to 5+ and then afterwards if you have NOTHING else to do you can wait and get sanguine damage for a little bit

[old terrace]

"run your own key" they said. "Theres too many dps applying" they said. I've had one applicant in 10 minutes

[novel star]

but that almost never happens

[coral ibex]

well

[clever sparrow]

too late tbh 😄

[coral ibex]

ur posting a +2 on monday

[marble hemlock]

ye its a bit scuffed this early into the tier, where the base assumption is that people do not have tierset yet, and the exception is when you do. in 2 weeks time, the entire guide will be assuming you do, and the exception will be that you dont.

[coral ibex]

bit late for the weekly m+ push

[old terrace]

Don't act like they don't still say it half way through the season lol

[coral ibex]

i mean i ran my key all day yesterday and it was a 10-12

[royal lantern]

what do you want people to say

run your own key is the solution

ofc a shity +2 will not fill fast now

[proven willow]

2s fill maybe ur not na region

[old terrace]

i want people to tell me I'm pretty

[coral ibex]

starting late puts you behind

[proven willow]

most people are done with 10s since friday

[old terrace]

and that it wasn't my failt sarah dropped her icecream on the dog

[royal lantern]

but it was your fault

the dog told me

[old terrace]

dude its week 1 😭 wheres the rest of the people that work?

[coral ibex]

?

[ashen fog]

whats work XD

[coral ibex]

i work 40hrs and i was pushing my key on tues/wed

with my guild

[spice spire]

Okay you’re pretty

[old terrace]

I pushed keys, but not my own

[proven willow]

if you have a guild you can work 80 hours a week and still push

[lean plover]

i have only done my key so far and the +2 was by fR the hardest key just bc no one applied, and that was thursday

[old terrace]

I just filled where I could

[proven willow]

nothing like pugging

[old terrace]

Also fitting in time for uni, and my kids too

[oblique sorrel]

10s were such a chores this week. A lot of one button andys in there not even using hero

[coral ibex]

well if you never pushed your key and ran keys all week

how can you say "where are the people that work"

[old terrace]

not everyones schedule looks the same

[coral ibex]

just run your key before monday

[old terrace]

that makes no sense

[proven willow]

tanks seem terrible this season

[old terrace]

dude yes

[proven willow]

the amount of ara first pull and hoa first pull bricks are insane

[old terrace]

every key thats bricked has been because of shitty tanks

[spice spire]

They’re ego’d because they’re overgeared from last season

[sour drift]

The kind that drags one left over mob into a new pack everytime so you don’t get a re, ikr

[oblique sorrel]

Naw I saw 2.9mil overall dps in a 10

[coral ibex]

the pug routes for halls ive seen so far

have been

tragic

175% count obtained

[haughty flicker]

[oblique sorrel]

175%

[peak pagoda]

Instantly ragequit at 3rd time

[coral ibex]

i'm not joking we killed EVERYTHING before the first boss

[gleaming geyser]

they are clearing trash ahead of the next key they are about to run when they deplete

[kindred kiln]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[coral ibex]

and then EVERYTHING before the 2nd boss

we had count for the next key

[pine drift]

You guys have other keys the Floodgate ?

[coral ibex]

and the one after that

[proven willow]

im ok with this bad play but tanks now just dont know how to pull which is crazy

[old terrace]

I stopped playing sub this season because of the tanks

[spice spire]

Fwiw a lot of mfs pulling from sl and ts doesn’t work

[marble hemlock]

you know you can just... not chase the mob, let it die, and still get the restealth in that case, right? 😛

[royal lantern]

huh

[proven willow]

2600-2700 tanks are playing like they just installed the game

[oblique sorrel]

lol

[peak pagoda]

And then you dont have enough time to ramp up

[haughty flicker]

do higher keys

[marble hemlock]

huh?

[haughty flicker]

[coral ibex]

i thought required count was lower in SL

[royal lantern]

are the FotM andys trying to explain again how they can NEVER stealth and how they do NO DMG because of it?

[marble hemlock]

if the tank drags a 3% mob into the next pack, you wait for it to die, get your restealth, and do your regular stealth opener

[spice spire]

It was but you got 80% before the first boss in sl

[fresh kelp]

sudden demise is great when low hp mobs get chained since they just die

[marble hemlock]

simply by not running after it

[spice spire]

So mfs do that see it’s still low

[fresh kelp]

easy re

[coral ibex]

[spice spire]

And pull everything still

[old terrace]

First dance feels too good. Sub is much less satisfying without it, it feels like you're punching pillows.

at least thats how it feels for me anyway

[coral ibex]

we were pulling mobs ive never seen before

[oblique sorrel]

[coral ibex]

i fought every single gargoyle

literally

[oblique sorrel]

Bleeds killing me rn

[coral ibex]

killed 100% of the gargoyle mobs

[spice spire]

[humble verge]

nexus king and dimensius conspiracy

both 83

[spice spire]

Hitting gargoyles is ass

[warm vortex]

Finished on rogue, gonna get the remaining weekly keys on my hunter done \o/

[old terrace]

I asked a tank to let us kill the last mob before we moved on to the next pack, and he started throwing a fit and wiped us 3 times lmfao. The ego is insane

[humble verge]

not even full 10

[peak pagoda]

Gargoyle enjoyer

[humble verge]

[gleaming geyser]

thats how I feel with Dawnbreaker; I had one tank pull all the giant spiders at the gates on the outside of the map bro

it was miserable

[warm vortex]

I cba tbh

I could v easily do

[spice spire]

I get them

[coral ibex]

we had 100% count and instead of going up the stairs to the 2nd boss

[warm vortex]

But i'd rather just get the 5 left on my hunter done

[coral ibex]

we went right

and pulled more trash

i think we timed it with like 8 seconds left and we had 3 deaths

+10 halls

95% combat uptime

[pliant remnant]

Not resi yet, back into the coal mines, buddy

[warm vortex]

Tbh im having a lot more fun w assa than i htought i would so i probably am going to be in the mines at some point

although uni might get in the way

[viscid spear]

I just put 2k
I usually have the mats

[pulsar coral]

what's the custom argument for changing stats on So'leah's?

[old terrace]

guide says bleed build is best for low keys. At what key level should I switch to hybrid?

[humble verge]

im surprised im top 24 on twisting nether in terms of gear wtf

[normal mist]

you shouldnt

Bleed on top S3 babyyyyyyyyyy

[old terrace]

no kingsbane?

[normal mist]

nop

[old terrace]

aye fuggin aye capn

[manic sedge]

What talents should I use for Raid ST?

[normal mist]

wowhead.com

[ivory flower]

On the fourth boss how do you keep your deathstalker mark when u have to switch on pylons ?

[manic sedge]

Dont apply one if the pylon is gonna die soon

[ivory flower]

That sucks

I hope they ll fix it

I switched fatebound

[unreal tide]

Cycle it once or twice on a pylon then just hold the L by not reapplying it until you have a new target, or just ignore it and vanish after the phase ends

[coral ibex]

^ this, and then just go to the boss to prep bleeds and mark before the amp phase

so you can rip cds as soon as it starts

[ivory flower]

Yep thats an idea too thx

[haughty flicker]

the real forgeweaver strat is to just go into mythic instead

[buoyant herald]

Are you guys bothering with the p1 adds on h dimensius? Ours seem to die pretty fast and I’m lucky if I get a few ticks or rupture

[haughty flicker]

so you only have one pylon to hit and it doesnt matter if you lose mark when it dies

[buoyant herald]

But RL is “checking add damage”

[coral ibex]

if its dying fast why are they checking damage

[haughty flicker]

why does rl need to check add damage if they're dying fast

[coral ibex]

let the specs who can blow it up quickly blow it up quickly

[haughty flicker]

just tell bro to shut up

me hit boss

and rupture snipe

[coral ibex]

[buoyant herald]

Yeah that’s all I’m doing

Does boss spatter into close one or too far?

[haughty flicker]

maybe if dimensius hitbox wasnt fucking tiny you could spatter

it should reach the first one yeah

not second one though

[buoyant herald]

Ehhh sounds like I’ll just prepare my excuses once again

Richard reverberation all over again 😂

Also does anyone have any cool tech to chop off his stupid giant hands that cover half my screen

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

Mfw no kingsbane

[humble verge]

are you guys sparking this

[warm vortex]

Can i spark you

[humble verge]

the one from the quest

[vital haven]

Yes

Bracers

[warm vortex]

:D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also

[humble verge]

idk... my bracers with socket and leech kinda poggies...

[warm vortex]

Rnadom thing

Have you guys heard how the only defensive in the PL hero tree is bugged and makes you take more dmaage instead of less

[haughty flicker]

yeah that goes insanely hard

[warm vortex]

Saw someone post a screenshot and show that they died to the planet explosion in p3 only because of the hero tree

XD

[haughty flicker]

take more damage as you get closer to dying

[humble verge]

what hero tree?

[warm vortex]

Pack leader

[humble verge]

ohlmao

[warm vortex]

Aka
The only playable BM one
And iirc it's p good for surv aswell

XD

[void pecan]

Can someone remind me what talent we drop to get iron wire in M+ build?

[humble verge]

already used over 300 pots within the first week

[warm vortex]

Whatever sims best

[humble verge]

jesus

[void pecan]

https://tenor.com/bvoGT.gif

xD

[warm vortex]

I'm only saying that because i don't remember what the regular drop is
Iirc Wowhead says smth

Lemmie check rq

[void pecan]

I thought so too but I couldnt find it

[warm vortex]

So lightweight shiv

But with the 2pc

I don't know how true that is

[oblique jackal]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[warm vortex]

I remember when i was playing a lot in S1 people said Master assassin
But i don't know how true that is arm

*atm

[void pecan]

With new tier almost all the options suck to drop.

Hm.

Guess I'll have to play around with it

[plain wind]

I was dropping master assassin in keys this weekend for iron wire. My damage overall still felt good and it definitely smoothed out the keys imo

[raw marlin]

iron wire

100% pug dps gain

[void pecan]

That's 100% why I'm doing it

[plush skiff]

you could just sim it

[grand trail]

does feint works on beam on loomiithar?

i think not right

[marsh fjord]

There is a beam on loom?

[grand trail]

yeah the soaking one

its mythic mechanic

[wet apex]

Elusiveness?

[sour drift]

Ocd issue I guess 🙃

[sour drift]

Aight, ty

[ashen dagger]

Do You guys Target tab al lot as assa?

[placid sparrow]

so we re enchanting out weps every week for raid ?

[viscid spear]

It differs, I play on a very populated server so they don't charge much.
I just put 2k, they didn't even recommend a tip

[balmy condor]

????? why would you need to do that

[placid sparrow]

i just watched your guid about the wep enchant going to the crit one now

safe to just keep that one on for mythic plus then?

[balmy condor]

yeah ofc

it's better in m+ too

[placid sparrow]

oof

[spice surge]

Not for fatebound only either

Stat ones are just better now

[analog field]

is it easy to add to the WA a sound saying SHiv when dm or kb is at 8 sec remaining ?

[small garnet]

I wish Assa just had energy on st

[placid sparrow]

i been running radiant power cause i mainly focus m+ , per murlok.io

[balmy condor]

well the issue there

is that murlok.io sucks shit

and it's gonna take WEEKS for that to catch up to theorycrafting

[haughty flicker]

[main bridge]

Just pull trash onto boss problem solved. More efficient too

[small garnet]

How do i do that in raid

[humble verge]

[main bridge]

But when that isn’t possible just have to accept it’s part of the design.

[placid sparrow]

lemme get RL to pull some trash into loomithar for me

[small garnet]

10 apm

[grand trail]

smile

[placid sparrow]

i was going over some logs and seeing a pattern of mutilate mutilate envenom, but im not max combo points after two mutilates , what am i missing here

[spice surge]

You dont use envenom at max combo points

Its 5 or more

[old terrace]

WHAT ?!

[spice surge]

Same with all other finishers

[placid sparrow]

so if im at 5 , just send it ?

[spice surge]

Only exception is during darkest night as deathstalker

Yes

[old terrace]

there goes 20 years of muscle memory

[balmy condor]

you've been finishing on max

for 20 years?

[old terrace]

sub rogue

[spice surge]

[balmy condor]

sub rogue hasn't done that either

[old terrace]

well sub and feral lol

[balmy condor]

you've been playing rogue wrong for 20 years

[placid sparrow]

im looking at other rogues like where they have the energey to go all these envenoms off at XD

[old terrace]

all the guides I've read for sub say to spend 6 or 7 cp on finisher

[placid sparrow]

im over here landing on six saying "ope better press mutilate one more time" XD

[old terrace]

well, I guess 5 is max on feral anyway

[haughty flicker]

[old terrace]

so 5 or more isn't that much different

[runic hinge]

Feral was also finish on 4 or more until df

[latent wedge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[placid sparrow]

but like DS m+ you want the juicy 7 pointers still ?

[balmy condor]

for darkest night

not normally

[lusty kraken]

is it just me doing something wrong, or is heroic dimensius fucking ass to play

[balmy condor]

ass in what way

[lusty kraken]

dogshit hitbox and you get constantly knocked back

[analog egret]

I started with Sub, been trying Assa for keys...and I just realised that Fan doesn't give a combo point per target hit

[lusty kraken]

you are simply not allowed to hit the boss as melee

[old terrace]

if you're getting constantly knocked back then your tanks are in the wrong spot

[balmy condor]

the platform is oblong yeah

ye

[balmy condor]

I mean it kinda does

seal fate give a combo point per target crit

so like

kinda

[placid sparrow]

now if im landing on max combo points alot in keys just from like fan of knives and refreshing spatter theres now drawback to spending a 7, just dont force a 7 unless is dakrest night ?

[balmy condor]

correct

the issue is that generating on 5

is a ton of overcap

combo points are linear value

so the difference in damage between 1->2 cp

is the same as 5->6 or 6->7

but if you mut on 5 and crit

you're just throwing combo points into the void

[analog egret]

So, if in keys I'm always having to Fan 2-3 times per envenom, my crit is just really low?

[placid sparrow]

what about tempest , am i wrong for spending 7 on that too lol ?

[normal mist]

yes

[placid sparrow]

mf

[normal mist]

if you force it

[placid sparrow]

-_-

[balmy condor]

the only time you ever force yourself to 7

is darkest night

[placid sparrow]

sounds good

[wintry kiln]

aha

[balmy condor]

depends on target count I guess but sure

[shrewd night]

DUNGEON RESTEALTH ISNT A REAL THING AND NOT WORTH

[wintry kiln]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807809192537882647/1377484690864476210/media-iv-text.gif

[shrewd night]

Thanks for coming to my ted talk

[balmy condor]

thank you for the random PSA

I been sayin it for like a decade

[runic hinge]